The Greatest Generation - A Low Key Locutus (VOY S1E12)

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

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Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. Adam, this is a power hour episode. I mean, I think that like the idea at its core of the show is two buddies having a laugh talking about an episode of a television show they love and just watched. And that like kicking back and forth, things about the show you just watched while drinking a beer with a bud is, you know, something that escalates every so often. As in today's episode, which is a more enhammered episode. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot like that movie another round. You were telling me I need to watch this

movie and then I did. And I loved it, by the way. But like, without giving too much of the story away, the drinking begins as fun and consequence free until someone has the idea to really raise the stakes of the drinking. And that is very familiar to those who enjoy the greatest generation episode to episode in relation to those semi-infrequent, more-and-hampered episodes that we run into. Yeah, the logic of if some drinking is good, more must be better, has been disproven over and over again by this show. That's right.

Yeah, and here we are again to disprove it once more. Yeah, we're providing an abundance of data. Oh, yes! I hate this! It is rebalting! And we're actually doing it a little bit more scientifically this episode. We always warn people listening at home, do not drink along with us. This is not something we recommend or encourage anyone to do. But also, you won't really be able to time it

right with us because we edit the show. So the intervals between shots are much squishier in the edited version than they are in real life. But you came up with a great idea of looking for a Power Hour website. And so what we have here is a shared screen between the two of us. It's the Power Hour timer. Was it Power Hour Dot Beer? Yeah, this site deserves a free plug. Power hour dot beer is going to be

the timer that we use and it's an idea so good. I'm surprised that we haven't used this before. Like obviously this is a website that has existed for a long time. It's a great idea. I wonder if the creator has done anything to protect himself in terms of liability. Doing a power hour is a bad idea, full stop. Yeah.

I am doing this power hour a little differently from how I've done them in the past. You have thrown a ton of shade at me for how squishy my shots are. I'm trying to be more scientific this time. Here's what I really wanted to do. I have not enjoyed previous power hours mostly because my beers have just gotten warm. What I've done is I've taken my 18-court can bro and then filled it with ice. So what I've got is ice cold beer next to my desk. I've got our tour Yeti cankoosie here. I'm gonna be drinking ice cold shots throughout. And I've gone and I've done like the pre-measure.

I know exactly what a shot looks like in the shot glass that I have. Okay. There's gonna be official on my end so that the shade can stop from you to me. I'm gonna be playing this game legit, which means I'm gonna be pretty rocked by the end because I don't know about you. I haven't had beer in the house in maybe the entire pandemic. I've been a wine and spirits guy almost exclusively. And so I

don't know what this is going to do to me. That's been my story as well. I've really not had much beer in the last 18 months. And I discovered a store in my neighborhood that sells Olympia brand beer, which is a crushable Pilsner style beer from the Pacific Northwest. Usually a regional treat, but there's a store down here that gets it. So I picked up a pack for you and a pack for me. I'm also going to be doing this scientifically as I can. I still don't own a proper shot glass, but I have my promotional averna amaro glass, and it actually has two centeliter and four centeliter measurements on. For the viewers at home, Ben has held up the vase

of a bouquet of flowers. That's the size of it. It's a very tall glass, but it does have little graduations on the side. And I poured an ounce and a half of water in it before I brought it out here to my studio to see like where an ounce and a half is relative to that four Centiliters line. It's a little bit over. So you're measuring from the desktop or the bottom of the glass. Resurring from the base as always. There you go. And I too have my Yeti can koozy, and I have this little six pack cooler that I picked up at a grocery store years ago.

That's cute. It's really cute, but I almost never put six packs in it because I bought it for making giant blocks of clear ice. Oh, really? So those blocks of ice are blocks like heavy duty. It's a little cooler the size of a six pack. You fill it with filtered water and put it in the freezer with the lid off.

What it does is it starts freezing from the top because that's the only non-insulated surface exposed to the cold. What you're trying to do is catch the ice before it freezes all the way to the bottom. What it's doing is pushing the air and impurities that are in the water toward the bottom as it freezes. So you'll get a two-inch thick slab of perfectly clear ice and then water underneath it. And if you catch it at the right moment, you pull that slab out and you cut it up with a bread knife into like perfect crystal clear ice cubes that are really like large large format. It's really fun. It's very fun to have those. About that. Very fancy, Mr. Harrison. It's the fanciest reason to buy a six pack cooler. There is no way in hell I would draw a bread knife over a block of ice and not have it slip and

slice my palm open. Oh yeah. I have one of those, one of those Kevlar gloves for like oyster-shocking and stuff. And I always wear that when I'm doing that. It seems extremely dangerous. It's frightening even with that glove, I'll say. Yeah. Well Adam, I feel like we're beating around the bush

a little bit. We've got a great big episode to get into today. Speaking of wearing gloves. Do you want to get into the episode? It's what we're here to do, Ben. Let the power hour commence with Star Trek Voyager Season 1 episode 12. Cthexas. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Alright, let's get our first shots lined up because we've got this thing is going to count

us down from seven seconds for some reason. Alright, I'm ready when you are. Okay. I think it just buzzes for the very first one and then it stops. Potems up. All my kexes live in cathixes. I looked this word up. I didn't know it. It means when you're like fixated in an unhealthy way on another person.

You know all the words. I didn't know this word. I'm shocked you didn't know this word. I learned this word from this episode. Here's how, in curious I am. I didn't know what it means and I didn't look it up. I saw it and I was like, this is gonna be the name of a kind of alien

and then nobody showed up in the episode named Catexus. So I was like, it must mean something else. Taking a shot. I was shocked that we've gotten two holodeck episodes in a row. Not that this qualifies as a holiday episode per se, but giving us a cold open set there right after the previous episode felt like a questionable choice, but not to ruin it for anyone. This is

not a holiday episode. It's just a teaser. Yeah. The captain is doing some R&R. She's herself care takes the form of playing a governess in a sort of Bronte like hollow novel where It's a battle of wits between her and the head of housekeeping or something They're sparring from the second Janeway walks in the front door Did you get the sense that at first Captain Janeway was in this to do some power play? Like, the captain goes and mobs the floors in the ancient England hollanovel just to

like feel that kind of way about things. I was expecting that to be her reason for being there, but no, like she's still the captain and she's going over the top of Mrs. Templeton here. Yeah, I kind of get the sense that she's going to get down with Lord Burley if he gets her way. And Mrs. Templeton kind of sees her as a threat to that end. Right. Lord Templeton has really got that burn side's facial hair going in a fun way. He looks like the kind of guy that would hide out in a magical candle in order to do all of the ladies in every generation of a family.

Yeah, watch out for that candle. It's gonna jack you off. Yeah, like assuming that this gets to sex pretty quickly, I understand it, but I'm worried that Janeway's way of chilling out is just like getting in psychological combat with somebody. That's so intense. Yeah, this does not seem like a very chill program, but we don't get to interrogate its reason for being very much before Kim breaks in with a message. And by break in, I mean, he doesn't identify himself or anything.

He's there with news that Chicoet and Tuvac shuttle is inbound, and it is extremely fucked up. I thought that this was kind of an interesting moment, because Lord Burley has come in and introduced himself and poured himself a glass of brandy, but offered none to Janeway. And I was like, what the hell is Lord Burley's problem? But I never thought about it a single time after this moment. Now, it's too dark into co-taire and a lot of trouble. This is that time in every power hour, in between five and 10, when before your body

has had a chance to acclimate to the gases, being put into it, That is deeply uncomfortable. Yeah. It seems like an impossible task right now. It may be an impossible task. I've had power hours that I had to punch out of because they were not going well. Yeah, I mean, we're not gonna let that happen here.

That's not us. Yeah. I feel like they set up a lot in that hollow novel. Like the fourth floor is off limits and stuff. And like so much is set up that it's really amazing how much we don't come back to it. There's coffee and ancient input. I would love it if we never came back here. Like if this is a Delaney sister situation, where I wonder what ever happened to the fourth floor.

So Janeway meets her injured crew members in Six Bay where Chicoate has a bunch of like fuchsia burn marks on his face. Yeah. And he is brain dead. And TuVac is concussed, but in much better shapes than the Chico Tay. Such an irony that Chico Tay is brain dead in the same way that the writers of his character are. Yeah. What are you hoping for at this point, Ben? I know that you've watched Voyager. You've seen it a bunch of times. I haven't.

But I have to admit, it's the middle, it's not even the middle. It's toward the end of season one of a Star Trek series. I'm ready for Chico-Tay to die. Give me the Tasha Yard treatment. Let's go back to the holodeck and see his weird hologram, eulogize everyone else.

Like, I'm openly rooting for Chico Te's demise at this point. I have terrible news for you Adam. Well, that's a fun thing to think about going forward. Yeah, there's a lot to think about Adam. And one of those things is that I'm already done with my first beer. How is that possible? I mean, I just poured out the end of my first beer.

Okay, I think I must be one behind you. Eight shots. That about it. I mean I think I've I think I got a little bit of a slasher in here. I mean it's hard because the koozy obscures the true weight of the can. It does. It's like one of those. I've got a shot in the glass and then I got a little bit of a slasher in my can. I've got a shot in the glass and then I got a little bit of a slosh in my can. Okay. I think we're at about the same pace. I think we're closer in pace than we've ever been. At this point, I would be like a half a beer in and you would be like openly ridiculing me. I'm doing shots that are closer to pint size.

I think I told you during the last power hour we did that in college, I was roommates with someone who did ice beer power hour against all of our light beer power hour. Damn. In a real fuck you kind of way. Yeah. This is also the roommate that woke me up in the middle

of the night by almost pissing on me. Mm. What a weird coincidence. Did I tell you that story? that woke me up in the middle of the night by almost pissing on me. What a weird coincidence. Did I tell you that story? I had a roommate that walked into our closet and thought it was the bathroom and pissed in there. This is evidently a very common thing. I mean, not very common, but like not unheard of thing. Okay, so the last shot just went in the glass. I have an empty

can here. Are you loading? I trust you. When we come back from theme, TuVoc is back to normal and is explaining that they were on like a trade mission and they were picking their bunk bed past a dark matter nebula and doing all of their routine nebula scans to see if there was coffee in that nebula presuming point. And they got attacked at them. There is some minor shade being thrown at chico te because I love this two vaks retelling the story and he's like, yeah, so the bangers were pretty severe. Chico Tee unfortunately succumbed to the bangers very early on. I managed to hang on, stay with it long enough

to hit autopilot on the shuttle before passing out myself. Just wanted you to know, this is the first officer you selected. Very perceptive, Captain. I love seeing a character that like tries to issue ego talking about losing memory. He says like the details are difficult to remember. Yeah. And I feel like in the mouth of any other character that would be like in a line that was like impossible to understand. Like people are never that sanguine about losing memory.

Like it seems like such an emotional thing to lose track of. And I really liked that moment in this scene. They're like, they're trying to get to the bottom of this. There was some kind of energy pulse. It hurt both of you, but your Kote way worse than you. What can you tell us about it? And Tuvak is not much help and is apologetic about that but he's no miracle worker.

Speaking of the loss of memory, there was a really interesting reddit thread that I. Deep dove into not too long ago that was like hey if you were in a coma, what do you remember? And a bunch of people commented on like how much they did remember. And a bunch of people commented on like how much they did remember. And how strange it was to like, you're in this liminal state where sometimes you're aware that you're in a coma, other times you're just in a dream state, you can, in retrospect, remember the touch of your companion and them speaking to you throughout. But like, how hard you have to concentrate to consider that as your reality when you're in a coma.

And that's such a strange thing to think about. It feels akin to lucid dreaming almost, like how much willpower it takes to be that aware. Yeah. In the moment. I could see it being kind of nice. Sign me up for a coma. How'd you like it? I'm trying to say. How'd you like to just kick back that long? Yeah. Not have to edit this fucking show. Take a sponge bath twice a week. Oh yeah, that sounds pretty good. That's great. So the idea is like a ship

came out of the nebula, attack them and then ducked back into the nebula. And what the doctor says is that if I don't have access to the weapon that zapped you guys, I'm never going to be able to put the brains back into Dakota. So this is become a mission. Does it strike you being as being extremely frequent that the Voyager encounters a phenomenon where a crew member is essentially dead for all intents and purposes and they stop everything and go on like a complete long shot mission to save that character?

She co-taise like you need licks to me, right? That's what's happening here. Are you seriously emanating me? Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Do you even emanation? Hahaha.

Hahaha. Bro. Hahaha. So they lay in a course for this nebula. Tufok is back at work. Yeah. But back at his tactical station. Even 60% of Tufok is better than 100% of Cam or whatever.

Yeah, I mean, I would take 10% of two-vac over 200% of Tom Paris any day of the week. I'd take 5% of two-vac over 200% of me. of two VAC over 200% of me. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Hey, this might be a good time to ask if you've taken your bro to electrolyte vitamins. This is non-branded content. This is just something that you and I do

when we drink heavily. That's a great call. Our drinking vitamins are crucial in a moment like this. And anyone who's a friend at a soda that does the kind of social drinking that you and I do, we wholeheartedly recommend the broad drinking vitamin. They did sponsor the show once. They did. And then they stopped for whatever reason. Yeah. So they start heading toward this nebula. They're like getting some readings off of it, and Janeway is like, hey, listen,

this nebula's got like a lot of electromagnetic interference. It's like a perfect hiding place. Dan, follow them into the nebula, sir. She odes with the useless. And so that's weird, right? It's the sort of thing that they scan, and it's there, and then it's not. Yeah.

It's very confusing, and what's more is that, I wish we saw the shuttle. We're told that the shuttle is extremely fucked up. So fucked up that its sensor logs have been bashed all the shit. Yeah. There's no sensor logs to go off of. So if they can't scan inside the nebula

and their sensors fritz out when they try, Captain Jane Wayne, a typical fashion, is like, let's head for the nebula. their sensors fritz out when they try. Captain Janeway in a typical fashion is like, let's head for the nebula. Let's get there. And a spooky thing happens on the way to the nebula. I love that Broadway show. They head there and then the ship changes correspondingiously. And Paris at the helm is like, And Paris at the helm is like, but it wasn't me. Something fucking going on with this helm is basically Paris's answer.

And I felt immediate. When you can feel your first big burp out during a power hour, it is so satisfying. That's very liberating. It feels so much better. Tom Paris, panicking at the helm, felt very akin to us panicking at a sound check or

Panicking right before going live on Twitch. The command was issued from the con. I'm telling you it wasn't The thing that I never missed about touring has returned in full force with that Twitch stream. It's great has returned in full force with that Twitch stream. It's great. It's pretty funny. Like they can like move the helm control over to Kim's station and like that's got to be very human-related for Paris, right? Like, hey, like Kim can do his job and your job at the same time.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm already like feeling pretty buzzed right now. D.B.H. It's on. Robert Duncan McNeil as Tom Paris is perfect for this. He is perfect as the accused. He's perfect as the, I swear, I'm innocent, you guys. He's such a, like, in the parlance of the TNG showbible.

He is a pecs bad boy. Yeah. He's the Eddie Haskell of this thing. He really is. I feel like Robert Duncan McNeil is cool. I bet he's a great hang. That's like, that's the vibe that I get from him. And if there's ever a Star Trek Las Vegas again, I want to have a teaky drink with that guy. He and Garrett Wang have a Star Trek Voyager rewatch podcast. Yeah. We should do like a, we should do like a piano bar,

doling podcast thing. Those guys. In the way that when we first started doing greatest, Jan, we, we punched up at Mission Log. Like we should respect knuckles across the way at them. We should get something going. Not a chance. We should give them finger guns. I see you. I see you guys. Yeah. So this all this panic on the bridge is like, okay, we got to get to the bottom of whatever just happened with our helm control. Obviously like something is at play that is attempting to make us not go to this nebula and we cannot tolerate that. But that's not the only thing that's going on on the

show right now because down in 6 Bay we have pan flute based medicine being performed by BLT over the slumbering body of Commander Chico Tay. I saw Stone and BLT hand, and I'm like, if the story of the episode isn't gonna kill Chico Tay, maybe BLT will. Yeah, is this some kind of like ritual stoning to death stone that a Klingon carries on them at all time?

She'd is bad when you're rooting for the death of a character. And every episode I'm hoping for it. The dot walks in and BLT makes up this story about the medicine wheel, which itself is made up by someone related to the show. The Native American consultant that wasn't a Native American and made up everything that he said. We talk all the time about the quality of things on Star Trek feeling magical. Mm-hmm. How come no one looks at the rocks sticking to this tapestry

and are going like, whoa! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! How are the rocks sticking to that tapestry? Water, fire, air, and dirt. Fucking magnets, how do they work? Rubber Picardo makes a face when BLT explains to him how the medicine wheel works. That we all make hearing how this supposedly works.

I liked the little like switcheroo that they play with this. Like you initially think he's going to be deeply condescending to the kind of medicine that Belonatora is performing with the Magneticent Wheel. But in fact, he knows all about it and he knows where she's making mistakes in her performance of the right and ritual of it. Right. The doctor ends the scene by telling her what he's working with isn't so much of a wheel

at all. It's like a wheel that hit a pothole and then exploded. Like Chicoet's mind is gone. There's just nothing there. Yeah. You don't want him to like end up in the valley of the Aneloah woman. That's a great hang over there. Yeah. You've never come back! An extremely attractive locale. We cut to Kess's quarters where she detects a presence, and then we cut to POV to confirm this suspicion. Yeah, we got kind of predator cam creeping around spider Kess's quarters. Someone here? And it's just a brief little scene like it is set up and we don't really get any resolution.

The resolution is her telling Nielix at work what happened. Nielix is like, I'm fucking at work. Like, why are you bringing my ass off right now? I don't have time to talk about presences. And this is the thing that got Nielix off the hook about like, wow, Nielix should really believe women. Like that isn't it at all. Nielix is fucking working.

The jaunty chef hat that Nelix has replicated for himself is very aspirational. I love it. Hey, I got a question about this scene. Yeah. Is the walkfire real or effects? Because it looked like effects to me. It looked much brighter and glowy than it has in previous scenes and I-

If it's an effect, it's great. It's great if it's an effect. And if not, I think they maybe like changed up the gas mixture or something because it looked like, I mean, you don't want like really, really hot flames when you're working on a set with actors and hot lights and stuff. I want to say it has to be an effect for that reason. Like you can't do five hours with that kind of flame on a walk on a set. When your actor is in a neoprene prosthetic that would fucking catch on fire in an instant if it was exposed to heat.

It's the perfect cookware for an effect, too, because you contrast it in such a way that it's just black. But there's something about the dimensionality of these flames and how they lick the walk that like, it's great. It's really well done. The thing that makes me think it's not a special effect is the fact that like it's great, it's really well done. The thing that makes me think it's not a special effect is the fact that that camera is pushing in on a dolly the entire scene. And this is an era where that like object tracking technology just wasn't there.

That would have had to be rotoscope by like an amazing 3D artist. I think you answered it. I think it's real and I think that's bad. I think they put Ethan Phillips in a ton of like really serious danger. When we do the Ethan Phillips interview, it's just gonna be how uncomfortable were you in that kitchen?

Yeah. Most of the time. I guess this episode will come out one day before our interview with Mary Weisman, but she has an amazing anecdote about Doug Jones and our interview on tomorrow's episode of The Greatest Discovery. When Doug Jones takes off the loaf. If you're not listening to The Greatest Discovery, you're missing, it's the phantom limb of The Greatest Generation.

It's right there. Yeah. It's the phantom limb of the greatest generation. It's right there. Yeah. It's great. Coffee black, make it yourself, and find out you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. I feel like a quality of this episode, several times, and this is a episode directed by Kim Friedman, who is very familiar as a Star Trek director. She directed a ton of Trek.

Kim Friedman loves beginning a scene with a walk by. Yeah. And there is a, what feels like, a real contest winner opening the scene with a captain bearing an unfortunate resemblance to Steven Miller. And I'm like, well, that's cool. That guy won the contest. He gets to deliver some dialogue.

This guy's a real character. He's a real character, yeah. Pete Durst. No tenant Durst. Polarious. Captain. I know why you want to hit him. Captain.

I know why you want to hit him. Here he is. He's going to stick around. Lieutenant Durst is going concern as of this episode. Star Trek does this sometimes. Like, you think a person is just walking through the scene, but they end up sticking around. And Durst is that guy because he talks to the captain, and then this is an important scene because their course changes again. And not only did their course change, they're locked out of helm control.

Yeah, Harry can't drive the ship either at this point. And Paris comes back up from, he's been like running diagnostics all over the ship, trying to figure out what happened at his station. I still can't find the problem. Well, to me, I even had her in the shower. And he's saying like, I've looked at every junction. I can't figure out what's going wrong.

And they're like, well, hey, like we just heard from BLT that you were walking out of navigation control, like a minute ago. And he's like, I like walked by it on my way back up here, but I didn't go in. Am I being accused of something here? Wasn't me. It wasn't me. It wasn't me.

Like a chump. Like a chump. Like a chump. That was the drunkest pronunciation of any three words in the history of pronunciation. I'm really feeling bad right now. We're halfway through this thing. Feeling bad. Well, that's power through, buddy. After the commercial, they've isolated

where the hell block originated. It's navigational control. Very suspicious things happening there. Paris seems to have been there according to BLT, but he's like, what the hell are you talking about? I super wasn't, according to me. And they're like, we don't really believe you and so we need you to head down to six bay and get your head scanned. He's sitting on the bio bed well doc hollow day

runs the medical tricorder over him and he starts wistfully talking about doc brown. You can't make doc brown a character. That's the wrong name. You don't want- We gotta go back Tommy! Back to TNG! Back when you were a cadet at the academy! That's where it all went wrong Tommy! You made a starship? Out of an intrepid class ship? Well, I figured if we were gonna get stranded in the Delta Quadrant, we'd do it with a little bit of style. Trevor Claschew? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Great. He does not understand why he's a suspect here. It's crazy. And what's awesome about this scene is that like Tuvac enters with the confirmation of the thing. And then Janeway and Tuvac just walk away from him and leave him in six pay. It's such an interesting mode for Robert Dungan-Renille because I feel like what he was cast for originally

in TNG and the thing that they liked about him was, we're covering up the crime. Right. And I'm being falsely accused guy is not necessarily the same guy as that. Yeah. But he does great with both things. There's an Andrew McCarthy quality to Robert Duncan McNeil that I hope he would never

feel like would be insulting. Like this is a guy that they picked up in prison. And I don't get a whiff of prison off of him at all anymore. He's a likable everyone. Yeah. We should treat all ex-cons as likable everyman, you know. Back on the bridge, Durst starts the scene again, and two Valkyrie reports to Captain Janeway about a ship that attacked them. And I got very confused in

the scene, Ben, like I do not remember a ship attacking them when Tuvac is describing this. Did I miss something? Are you already drunk when you watched this episode? What ship are they talking about? What attack? The ship that attacked the shuttle that he and Tukote were on. They weren't that specific. They just talked generally about a ship attack and I didn't

think that it was about the shuttle. It was about the shuttle. Trust me. So there's this eye on trail that leads to the nebula and that's the thing. Like maybe we can follow this eye on trail into it and it's secuitous. And so the plan is to follow this path, right? Like that's how you get in there. It's a dark matter nebula. You can't just, you can't do the Janeway thing where you just ram your ship into it. There is a bit of a dialogue problem here because he's like, check this out, Captain.

I have a evidence that shows a ship going directly into the nebula and then it cuts to the close up of the screen and the ship is like weaving. It's the stock photo of a sine wave. Yeah if you or I were dumb enough to get behind the wheel of an automobile right now this is the eye-untrail we would leave. How am I this a drunk off of three beers drink this quickly like that that's the vibe that I've got. You are really hammered right now. I don't like this I don't like this much beer this fast. It's bad. It's a bad

thing to do. I've been nervous all day about this. So the plan is to follow this path, but a banger gets dropped and Kim has only bad news. There's a power drain across the entire ship and the warp core is offline. We cut to engineering to see what the fuck and BLT is locked out the bridge, knocked out the power and shut down the warp drive. What the hell, BLT? I love this moment because it changes the lighting strategy of the show for the rest of the episode. Like the power being knocked out puts the lighting in a different mode and it's much darker and much scarier from here on in.

Yeah. The music changes too in a delightful way. And the captain like raging into engineering, going what the fuck did you do to my ship and BLT being like, I don't know like. Captain, you've initiated an emergency walk course shut down. What? She's kind of like mirroring that same,

I didn't do shit thing that Tom Paris is doing. It's great. I love this. People believe they're innocent, but they're guilty. It's not something I've ever experienced. I believe I'm guilty, even though I'm innocent. In Six Bay, the doc shows Captain Janeway, the way a former Paris is mined.

And there's definitely some peaking in some areas. But what's really interesting here is that there are some superimposed rain waves on top of both Paris and BLT. Yeah, it kind of looks like something got copy pasted into their brain waves. And these disruptions, these moments, I guess what the doctor has is sort of the audition file for their brains.

For their brains. And he's like, when the ship changed course and Tom parasetti didn't know what the fuck, something happened in his brain. Yeah. Something possessed him basically. There's no way for the crew to be under a scanning implement. Throughout there's no warning system in place. There's no headband anyone can wear. To tell anyone else that they're under this kind of control. It's just all reporting. I love that the second the implications of this become clear to Valk hits his

communicator badge and says intruder alert. Yeah. Yeah. When the lighting changes throughout the ship. And Truder alert has always meant a physical intruder in my mind and he doesn't treat it like that. He's like, there's something on this ship that we can't see that we need to take seriously as an intruder. There's some music being played, perhaps? Where you can't necessarily see the guilty parody. And yet, people are shuffling.

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Are you selling a high school? Go. Man, there's so much beer on my desk right now. I laid down a couple of cloth napkins, and I moved my keyboard far, far away from the recording situation. Nothing is in danger, but yeah, I wish I had a napkin down. That would have been smart. You got to put a towel down before recording Greatest Jan pen.

So important. Yeah, this is recording Greatest Jan on our moon. Ah. All you have to do is put down a towel. You and I are both very committed to the idea at this point. At this point, Captain Janeway has figured it out and she basically turns to camera. She's like, there's an alien on board. It's able to control anyone for whatever

their dark purposes. Yeah. And at this point, it's been all about preventing them from getting back to the nebula. She taps her communicator badge and does a shipwide message and she says, this is the captain, anyone that has seen the Denzel Washington film fall in will understand the situation we are in. There is an alien presence on board. It can jump from person to person. Time is on its side. I understand not everyone has seen every Denzel Washington film, but I am here to tell you there is something to be gained from every film that Denzel Washington is in. If you haven't seen all of his work, I recommend the podcast Denzel Washington is the greatest actor of all time period.

Captain Janeway has a very interesting idea as a result because the doc is non-corporeal and the rest of us are. Maybe I should just put my command codes into it. Yeah, the doc is the data of this episode. Kind of a big couple episodes for Doc holiday, huh? Like, he can't be possessed in the same way, so we'll put him in charge. Like, he's not the captain of the ship when she gives the command code to him, but he's the failsafe. Like, he can counterman orders that are given by people that if he suspects they are making

orders under the dress. Again, there is no choice to him. This is the rest upon him. And he accepts. Some people earn command codes. Some people are born with command codes and some people have command codes thrust upon them. Right. I feel like they downplay it in a very smart way, but this is a pretty major moment for his character. I'm going to tell you the choice of doing the podcast standing up as I've always done.

Kind of a great decision during a power hour. Like I can really feel it. I can feel the wobble. I'm going to feel the wobble when I get up. I'm peace-inning down. You're peace-inning down. Yeah. Have you ever tried it?

I've always done the podcast seated. Hey buddy, when you're peeing all over your shoe, I'm learning something. This is a real bang, bang sequence of events because we cut from the dock, getting this great responsibility to the corridor outside where Kest stops Captain Janeway to say that they've confirmed her suspicion. And too bad, because it's like cool,

like maybe we should melt about it. And Kest is like, yeah, I'm into that. Let's do it. It reminded me of one of my early works as a podcaster. Let's meld about it. Yeah, I love that show. So they head off to do their meld. Like, Cass agrees to the mind meld as fast as I would.

Like, if I ever got to meet a Vulcan, I'd be like, can we mind meld? Can we mind meld? You and me, my mom. And I'm sure that a Vulcan would hate me because of that, but. You're like grabbing his hands, putting them on your face. Yeah, always.

Is this doing it? I think I feel something. Do you guys feel something? Do you guys feel,? Do you guys feel something? Do you think a Vulcan like a Vulcan is so aware of where their hands and their fingers are. Yeah. How careful do you need to be if you're a Vulcan when you take it out to piss or when you touch your own face to wash it or whatever like can you meld yourself you don't want to accidentally mind meld your dick that will fuck your week up what would happen if you melded yourself I don't know it's not

good they just be not good here's the thing like you and I have talked about this off mic before like you never want the story of your death to be area man found. Like, neither of us want to be found, but if you're like, if you're a Vulcan, you especially do not want to be found, because you're going to be found with your hand melding with something you're embarrassed about. Yeah. That would suck. Areavolcan found melding with cantaloupe.

Areavolcan found melding pie. Yeah. They head off together and no sooner have they head off than Lieutenant Durst and Ensign Kim find them in a turbo lift. K out. Yeah, I love how they're in a pile. It's a very start trek to the wrath of calm kind of pile. Where Cass has fallen gently onto the leg of a two-vac?

Yeah, I remember there was a school play I was in in middle school where my character was killed and I had to like in in dying I had to fall over the body of a girl in my class and I was so nervous about being in like physical contact with a girl at that point in my life and I was so nervous about being in physical contact with a girl at that point in my life that it was like, I could not sell that death at all. I was like planking over her, like the yoga pose where I was holding all of my weight on my elbows and my knees. Oh, no. Well, appearing to have collapsed over her body.

Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough spot. Yeah. How do you do that as a middle schooler? How do you do anything as a middle schooler? You don't. You really don't. Yeah, he can't.

Yeah, it's impossible. They're both KO'd. Kess is in a coma and... God, this is getting gassy at this point. This is pretty rough. Hey, 52 shots in. Where near the finish line? We're getting close, we're getting close buddy.

How many beers do you have dead on your table? I've got three dead cans and I'm working on the fourth into the shack. What the fuck? I have five dead cans and I'm working on the fourth into the shack. What the fuck? I have five dead cans. What? How is that? Are you doing ounces or ounce and a half?

OUTS and a half. Did I measure wrong? Am I fucking myself over? I think your glasses fucked up, man. I thought it was like five and a half beers in a power hour. I mean, I thought I plan on drinking five and a half beers on the show, but I'm telling, I know I've dropped a couple of shots,

like the buzzer isn't buzzing. I'm talking, which has skipped me some beers. I'm positive I'm behind you. We're like right at the halfway point in this episode too. It's a fucking mess. It's bad. This is a bad episode. I think that if Kess had been dressed as Spider-Cess, she would not have been in a coma. Did you know that the actor who plays Lord Burley as name Michael Cumpstee. Do you know that that we have edited 20 minutes of Michael Cumpstee content out of this episode? Do you know how hard it was for Michael Cumpstee?

Bring that up again, Adam. We talked about this at the end of the Cumpstee run. When you're born Michael Cumpsty, you can only be an actor. You can only be an actor whose job it is to end up as a punchline on a bad star trek podcast. Yeah. Michael cumsty, a lifetime of name disparagement. comes to a lifetime of name disparagement. I respect him. Yeah. So some pretty rugged shit has happened to Kess.

When they find them, her neck has like a pretty obvious bruise on it. And when we come back from commercial, we're in a McLoughlin group. If you want a dark McLoughlin group where the lights are not on in the observation deck and they are talking about what happened here and Chubak is present. He's fine. He's again fine. This is this should be suspicious though. Like in that turbo lift pig pile, he's fine.

He goes right back to work. Here's the thing, guys, everyone at this McLaughlin group who has any sort of awareness of the anatomy. When you mention trapezius bruising, you know it's neck pinch related. You know that. You know that. You know that neck pinch five or seven minutes before it came up in the show.

Our friends of DeSoto who were in the Jim Shimoda group, spelled with the G, they know where the traps are. Those are our trap queens and kings. Hell yeah. They're no exactly what's happening here. And let me tell you something, Kess not doing the shoulder shrugs in the gym in order to get trapezius pain.

Yeah. This is clearly a neck pinch related situation. Oh no, no, stupid. You got it much too high. It's down here where the shoulder meets the neck. Objection noted, we'll do this without it. We'll do it. We'll do it.

We'll add. This is a great dark McLaughlin group, as you've mentioned, because the paranoia is on full display. I love it. Yeah. Kim goes silent for a minute. He's like lost in a reverie, and it's like a fucking turntino scene.

Like it's guns out. Everybody is pointing. Dustbusters at each other and and try quarters at each other. I love this moment because it's so benign, Kim actually does just stop and think about the situation and it gets phasers drawn on him. If every time I stopped mid conversation or just went off into my own mind world

with anyone and was in danger of having a phaser drawn on me. What were you doing just now? I would have been killed 20 years ago. He definitely wouldn't have this podcast. Yeah. Most of the editing on the show is when Adam just goes off in a fugue state for a few minutes. Yeah, happens all the time. That's where you load up on your jokes. Kim was not possessed, though,

but this amount of paranoia feels dangerous. I guess my mind started to wander a bit. I'm very disturbed by what just happened here. And Captain Janeway is more willing to take BLT's proposal for action because of it, I'd say. Yeah, and the proposal is, we going to do this magneton scan. We're going to reconfigure all the sensors on the ship, the ship wide magneton scan. Everyone's going to get off the ship. And then allow this beam to go through it to clean the ship. And this is our favorite kind of

Star Trek episode where you evacuate the ship. The beam goes through Captain Janeway leaves her saddle on board, has to go back on to get it. She's getting it to the bottom of this. Yeah. Killing wise. I like the plan. It kind of reminds me of the shoot a pulse

and reveal the presence of the case on ship. Yeah. Kind of kind of, uh, it's the glitter bomb plan. And so that's the plan. And they, the meeting breaks up and we cut down to six Bay where, uh, the doctor is working hard on cash and kneelinks is down there, working out his theories about Ensign Parsons who ordered his Pajuda cold. Ensign Parsons is always getting his Pajuda hot. Yeah, his actions are suspect.

The theme of paranoia is being explored via the character of Nielix here. And is Pajuda a real thing? I've never heard of Pajuda. I don't know. If it's a real thing, respect, and if it's a fake thing, I think that one thing that this show does really well is come up with fake food names. Did you pause the power hour? Why isn't it going? The clock just stopped. I didn't pause it. It stopped at 59 shots. All right, let's just take our 60th shot and then we're in the clear. I mean, I'm gonna keep drinking. I'm committed to the idea now. And I probably need to catch up to you,

given that I'm done with my fourth can and you've had like eight cans of beer. I'm past five and a half cans. I don't know. I don't know what happened. It seems impossible. Then yet, if you've ever listened to a power hour episode, you know that I find a way to fall two beers behind of you, Ben. Adam finds a way. Well, there it is. Why aren't we using the buddy system at this point? We're aware in the universe of the episode that there's a there's an apparition going into and out of people telling them to do things on their station that can be destructive or dangerous to everyone else. And yet, like, Tuvac is walking around the station wearing a dustbuster alone, going places like

Six Bay. Well, the big problem I had in this episode is that they didn't all lock up their guns early in this situation. You got to do that, I think. If anybody can be possessed by this thing, put all the guns in a 36 hour gun locker or something. If the command codes are worth giving to a holographic party, you got to take the weapons off the board too. That makes sense, right? It does. And like when two-vock walks into six bay, it's the first time...

And what if the rate seen would that be, Ben? Given the command codes to the dock, locking up the weapons. Yeah. It would have been good. I mean, I like the threat of twouvac walking into Six Bay, right? What are you doing? It's the first moment where Tuvac feels singled out as potentially a bad actor, but it doesn't tip the hand of the episode.

It doesn't reveal him to be the villain in the scene. You're just paranoid about him. When paranoia is the theme of the episode, and two-vock walks into a room, and we're paranoid about him, but then nothing happens. It does that thing where you go like, oh, maybe it isn't two-vock. And though we're pretty sure it's two-vock. But the next scene is him walking into the captain's ready room and saying like, even I could be the guy, you know.

There is a conspicuous dust buster in this scene though. Like there's something about the framing and the blocking of it when Tuvac goes into Captain Janeway's ready room where I felt very threatened by him going in there. And then in quick succession, like the trapezius bruising is made clear. And the forcible neck pinch is revealed to be a thing. And then Captain Janeway wants the doctor to scan to Voc, but the doc has been turned off. It really, this episode is a great job in heightening the paranoia. It's not just initial paranoia. It's paranoia on top of paranoia. When it's one person in the room with Captain Janeway, that feels dangerous to be in a room alone with two vach. Yeah. I think that also low key,

the line where he says the magneton scan is even going to affect him. Yeah. Makes you paranoid because it's like, why are you like making it about yourself, man? Like it's everybody. And like, why would we imagine that you were immune to it for any reason? This next scene is bug nuts because on the bridge, Captain Janeway is like, all right, I've decided to give the codes to the doctor for safekeeping and then all hell breaks loose

because Captain Janeway attacks Tuvac and then Paris shoots Captain Janeway and then Kim shoots at Tuvac and then Durst shoots at Tuvac and then Tuvac stuns everyone with a full spread phaser blast. It's like a bar fight on the bridge, man. It's great.

It's one of the best bridge scenes ever, I think. In Star Trek history, like everybody on the bridge of a Federation starship losing trust in each other in a single instant and starting to fight each other is such a scary idea. And this scene does a great job of depicting how scary that would be. I don't wanna put you on the spot, but like, phasers being discharged on a bridge seems like such a rarity that like,

best of both worlds part one, is the place where my mind goes. I don't remember this being a quality of Star Trek. Very often. I wrote down this is a locuda situation in my notes. Yeah. It's a low key locuda, isn't it? There you go, because the thing about locuda

is you hate to feel like you are blaming Picard for it because it's not, it's happening. That was such a gross noise. Yeah, I'm just gonna take it off the lip there. Yeah. I'm gonna take that sip of Oli off the lip. No one should listen to this episode. This is terrible.

It's terrible, but it's like we don't have a choice. The game tells us what to do. Yeah. You're thinking about does Tuvac have any agency in this? Does, did he do it? Like when Janeway punched him, was she the bad guy or was he the bad guy? That's such a great point.

Is it ghost or is it Tuvac? Yeah, because like one of the perspectives in that scene is the predator perspective, like the POV flying around the room, Tom Paris doing, like Steven Segal, gut punch, face punch, backhand move on Harry Kim, like it's really intense and they have tuned each other up to a huge degree and there's like the EMH is down. So when we cut down to six bay, it's Tom Paris administering shots to people.

Which is great. Like it's time to redeem Tom Paris. He was left in six bay to be the doctor in the EMH's absence. And he's back there saving the day. He sure is. I do not feel good. I don't like this. Yeah. But I'm gonna crack another beer. Crack the beers, dude.

I have a full six pack down at this point. This sucks. This sucks. I just cracked my sixth. I don't know how I fell so far behind. I don't really understand that part. I'll tell you how I talked too much. Yeah, you did too much talking.

Little less of me would really benefit the show at this point. Of course, it's long day. What? You're supposed to be very careful, because I'm only going to say this once. So Paris Hi-Bosprey's kept in Janeway back in the consciousness and Kim says it'll take hours to get the doctor back online, which means we're stuck with these people.

We're stuck with the corporeal crew. Yeah, I thought a lot about how Chicoce wasn't a part of this episode at all. All he has been is a face we've cut to on a bio bed. If you're Robert Belchran, this is the dream, right? Yeah, you're chilling out in your Starwagon. Only being shot from the nipples up. It's great.

And now Robert Bracardo also chilling out in the Starwagon. Janeway heads down to engineering where BLT has like a pretty major revelation for her, which is the center logs on the shuttle that they've been looking at. They thought were destroyed in the attack and in fact were deleted intentionally. Because someone erased it from the archive memory. The realization is that there was no other ship. No other ship. And that means- Why would Tuvac lie?

Tuvac has been talking bullshit this entire time. Yeah, and what's great, this is one of the best scenes in the episode. Tuvac in this moment is like, Hey, I've got a route to suggest to the nebula. But because paranoia is an all-time high, aided by the coincidental report of Kess's neck pinch, no one wants to follow this path into the nebula, no one wants to listen to Tuvak. What the fuck Tuvak? This path seems sus-af. And Harry's put in the middle of this, because Harry, like the con, has been given to Harry,

and unlike being put in between the Delaney sisters, at the same time, this isn't pleasurable at all. For, for Ensom Kim, he's in between two Valkin Captain Janeway. This is when two Valk shows his hand. He pulls out that wide beam phaser. He explains it's on kill that wide beam phaser. He explains it's on kill.

Wide beam kill setting, great setting, Tuvok. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every mother fucking in the room, except no substitutes. We've already seen what it does earlier on a stun setting, like all you have to do, you don't even have to aim it. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, you just hold it up over your head.

It's Bluetooth instead of old remote control technology. We have to aim it at the TV. This time you just have to, it just works in the Apple parlance. It just kills. Yeah, all it does. It just, boom, pops to life and works. So like the entire crew of the bridge, aside from Tuvak, are like off in a corner

under the threat of this wide beam set to kill phaser. And he walks over to Kim's console and sets their path. Yeah. And they start flying into this nebula. Everyone's gathered in a hostage situation kind of way, which allows them to like kind of whisper to each other, soda, Vochay.

Yeah. Kim tells Captain Janeway that I'm picking up some kind of energy pulses in the nebula. Holly coherent with a biometrics. They're headed toward them. And this is the moment in the episode where two Vox says, I am Koma. I am A Comar.

There are other Comar in there. We're gonna go get them. And the whole idea is like the brains that you took from Chicoetay, and I'm gonna be honest, not very satisfying for anyone involved. The promise of the rest of the brains on this ship is what I'm heading toward. I'm hoping to bring these brains to the comar for feeding. And we cut to engineering and a ghost He's at your station. Warpcore ejected. What? Warpcore's gone. No war warpcore.

He took it out. Yeah, they're gonna thruster around, like a bunch of bombs. You can't get around space on thrusters only. This is terrible. Thrusters are what you use in and around a starbase. Thrusters are for chumps. Thrusters are the caution lights of starships.

Yeah. You're hitting the triangle button, you're hitting the hazards. Voyagers hazard flashers are on from this point on. Beauty is not allowed to just summarily eject the core. No. That has to come from one of the top two. And only the captain and Chicoete are allowed. And that just doesn't make sense.

How could Chicoete have done it? He's lying brain dead on a slab in six bay. Yeah. And everyone's hoping that he just dies. They finally put it together. Chicoete has been trying to keep them out of the nebula while the other ghost has been trying to get them inside it. Yeah, there's two opposing ghosts. There's two ghosts. Yeah. The thing we need to understand is that there's more

than one ghost here. It's slimer versus the blue ghost of the upcoming Ghostbusters movie. And this is where Tuvoc starts to villain monologue. He starts to explain that the Comar want to eat their neural energy. This is going to be great for the Comar. It's going to like set them up for generations. It's going to be really big for them. Very excited for the Comar.

This is a huge deal for the Comar. And they're like not so fast to rock not so fast the comar at Janeway does one of the great like dive across the bridges and hits I guess they've set the magnetons scan up to be triggered by a single button on the captain's seat I love the blocking of this no one ever dives under the horseshoe on the captain's seat. I love the blocking of this. No one ever dives under the horseshoe on the D. But on the voyage, you can like, to the extent that this is a horseshoe, Captain Janeway-

There's a little more clear of this. There's a little more clear of this under here. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Camera flashes like the stepper repeat at the premiere of a Star Trek series. And everybody gets knocked down, but two Valkmost of all.

Yeah, that's the most important one to get K out. And the comar leaves two Valks of body and slimers through a wall and out into space. RSVP, the comar. Yeah. They do a little science on what kind of entity it is. They say it's a trianeic based entity. No one knows what that is.

No one cares. It's another energy being from a nebula, like 50% of the total Voyager episode so far. The nebula seem extremely dangerous at this point, and we should be wary of them. I definitely wouldn't be sending a shuttlecraft at one. Like the two key themes of Voyager episodes at this point are nebulous, our full of entities, and we need to be very careful around them, and single crew members are worth setting everything

about getting home aside for doing whatever we can to save them, no matter how long the odds are on that. It's insane. Yeah. So, look at this. Harry Kim says, listen man, we don't really know how we got in here because Tuvac was doing all the piloting and I know we need to get out

but we don't really know which direction to point the ship. We could even be going deeper into the nebula and Janeway's like, I don't really mind. If we go in, that's good. If we go out, that's fine too. As long as we feel something, it's okay with me. So we're going deeper in. We cut down to Six Bay, where the predator POV

takes over Nielix's body and walks over to Chicoetay and rearranges the Magneticent Wheel. Nielix is like, how are these rocks even sticking to this chemistry? I don't understand it. He comes to and radio's up to the bridge bridge and says I rearranged all the rocks on the medicine wheel and I don't even know why I did it. I don't have any memory of doing it in the first place. I love and everyone watching the life he will have noticed something came off of your

ceiling. Something is dangling. Something, there's a power strip. Yeah, you're just seeing that. You're just seeing that. That's my hair light for one week's livestream. Oh yeah, that's why you look so good. That's why the friends of Desoto love the livestream so much. Yeah. Uh.

This, the rusters only path out of the nebula seems pretty fraught. And they and their reward for this path is a bunch of bangers. Yeah. And following the stony path. Probably the biggest thing that this episode asks us to swallow is the idea that the captain knows several dozen camera positions in Six Bay because he says, bring up surveillance camera 16 and show that image to us on the main viewer. And it's like a perfectly frame shot of the Magnetisson wheel. Yeah, that is not a hippo approved camera situation in Six Bay. a hippo approved camera situation in 6 Bay. And also like the idea that the camera captain would know like there if there are up to 16 cameras what's the perfect one to call up for? Give me a break but what they realize is that the rocks have been arranged in exactly the right positions to

map onto their start charts. And that gives us a path out of the nebula. And it's like your classic, the Death Star is exploding and we got to get the Millennium Falcon out into space before it happens, kind of a situation. The aliens are attacking the shields and- It's such a chill version of that though. Yeah, and I think the reason for that is it's not a high speed escape. It's just a very chill thrusters only escape. Right. They should have gotten the warp back online to like really like sell this, I feel like. Yeah. But they clear the cloud and shields are at full strength, hold integrity, just where

you want it to be. No aliens have made it back on board. They made it out clean. And the button on the episode is, look, I'm not a perv or anything, Ben, but I want to see that warp core re-inserted into the ship. I don't know why they didn't give us that shot. So far in Star Trek, we've never seen what that looks like. I know. I'm going to see it going in.

I'm going to blow your mind at him. We do get to see Voyager's warp core out in space. Coming up. I'm excited for that, but also like... I feel like I've seen a lot of warp cores in Star Trek, and it doesn't do anything for me at this point. I really want to see is it going in. That's the only thing that's going to make me feel anything anymore. Okay.

That is all described in a captain's log, and what is also described is, yeah, we just worked Chico Te's mind back into his body, like that presence that was POVing around the ship was Chicoete, and he back. How can you ever trust him again? Is my question. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. two-buck again either. Two-buck has had some trust-shaking moments already on the show. Chico Tejas now. They should have had to give him over. Take his body. Let us go. He's like a fair trade. Wow. Your impression of Janeway gets better and better. Dig his body and let him go.

There's coffee in that corpse. He describes this like phenomenon of being a floaty disembodied presence. Hold on, I have a bit. I have a bit. We need to do this together. I've got to get I got to get straight for this. Okay, we're forget I said any of that listener. So the button on the

episode is that they find the warp core, they reinsert it and they also reinsert Chico Te's mind. But what if they swap them, Ben, in a switcheroo? Hmm. He's the first officer at the Voyager. It's what powers the warp drive of the ship, but when they switch places, the crew will find out which spirit animal represents the ship and how fast Chico-taken run.

This fall, it's freaky Chico-Tick. Chico-Tick, how great would that be? Chico-Tick, how great would that be? He should never have pissed in the fountain in the town square alongside the warp drive. What if the warp drive were just to Co-J from now on? This would be great. This would solve a ton of problems on the show.

You stick the warp drive into Chicoote's brain. I don't think you're losing anything there. You could probably give his quarters to someone else. The good doctor does not confuse the brains and the warp core, which is unfortunate. You know what the fun person in the writers room proposes that idea? Whoever you are out there, I toast you. He does it everybody. That's how drunk you are.

I don't feel good. I mean, I feel good, but also bad. Chico day describes his experience about how he could manipulate people into judging things, doing things, knocking people around when he chose the awesome power of the ghostly apparition that was Chico day. Yeah, it's a little creepy that he describes taking over someone's body as I became one with them. Yeah, don't like that one bit Chico Te. I think you need to moderate your description a little bit. Take that shit out with the trash, fuck that.

You know, I could go into and out of anyone I chose if I just concentrated a little bit. Yeah, no good. You know good. Did you like Catexus Adam? Here's the main problem I had with Cateexas. Hey, maybe drop a boi? Prepare a boi and launch it when ready. Warning boi's. And emergency boi.

Warning boi. You're the most dangerous part of space you've ever seen. This is like the nubin episode, though, right? In a way that I liked. I love a body snatcher's episode of Star Trek. I love that episode of TNG where the card is taken over and then you shoots lightning

into the con and the upstations. Like you're not sure who you can trust. I like those aspects to this episode. I think those are the aspects that make it good. I mean, I think it's a really good episode. I think it's, I think those are the aspects that make it good. I mean, balance. I think it's a really good episode. You got to give yourself over to the, the creepiness of it, and I did. So I like it. When you say the word paranoia, early in an episode, the way this one does, and then exploit that theme for what it is worth. Yeah. And think about it, this episode is grabbing the paranoia utters

and just fucking rocketing the milk at us. Yeah. Grabbing all the utters, like, Gagin. And like when you like, when you're like galaxy braining this episode and thinking back on the fact that Enzen Kim was like lost in thought and it was

too vach that was actually the first person to stand up and point a phaser at him. You're like, oh fuck, like the paranoia was being developed in a way that like was designed to manipulate and but designed by the bad guy to manipulate. Right. And that is super well done. I think that it's also classic Star Trek when Janeway is like, hey, you didn't need to steal our ship and try and steal all of our mental energy. We could have just tried to help you and find a way for you. Can't we negotiate in a way where we give you Chicoete

and then you allow us to go free. That would have been, I mean, like that. I mean, I just, I thought it was a good episode. I think that season one of Voyager so far were 12 episodes in and there's only three episodes left in season one. And I'm like, it's weird how it's structured right like every other season a Star Trek Voyager gets 30 episodes and this one gets 15 or whatever kind of a lot of bangers for a first season of Star Trek. I like it. Good job. not killing Chico Te. Mm. Mm. Well, Adam, this is an episode of the show that is happening during a max fund drive. And we would usually cut to a priority on message right now.

But instead, we're going to cut to another pledge break. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on? A supplement on Secured Channel. You need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement supplement Yeah, it's extra.

But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! I'm Captain Chaplin, the U.S. and the Boyhead Dirt. I'm Captain Chaplin, the U.S. and the Boyhead Dirt. I can't believe how sober we sound for this. Adam, I got a big question for you. What's that been? We're very drunk. Oh yeah.

We're deep at the bottom of an Olympia beer can. I'm lost in the nebula. But did you find any Shemode that were drunker than you in this episode? I'm going outside the show and I'm giving my Shemode to Tim Russ. Tim Russ gets to play all the angles here in this episode in what has to be a very satisfying way for an actor. Yeah, I think he does really great work here.

In a way that like, I don't know if you're a Vulcan, it must be hard for other characters to feel any differently about you than normal. But there's a quality about the two-voque character in this episode. This is very suspicious. And there's an ability by Tim Russ to make two-vox suspicious here. That's really well done. So I'm gonna give my drunk tomato to Tim Russ who has got to be having a ton of fun. Goosing the suspicions of everyone around him to that end. What about you, Ben? I'm gonna give mine to Robert Beltran. Oh, yeah. Got to do the same thing that Garrett Wong did

in the last episode, which is just chill out until the very end of the episode and be like, hey guys, what happened? Anything interesting while I was gone? No? Okay, back to normal. That's great. It was a fun episode for him. All he did was lie on a slab. This was a pretty fun episode for us to do as a more hammered episode, I would say. It was, but I think we need to find out what way we will be doing the next episode of the show. And for that, I'm going to do the goch.bizslashgamewebsite, where we keep the game

of buttholes, calling the will of the prophets. Yeah, hopefully the next episode is just a lot of gatorade and some fur. Oh, that sounds really good right now. Doesn't it? Yeah. Not that I need more liquid in my body, but flood does sound really good. No, I'm ready to leave the stage and go hit a bathroom. We need to end this episode, Ben. We do. So I will describe season one, episode 13, faces. Voyager's half human, half-clion chief engineer Torres is split into two beings by scientists desperate to cure the plague that's destroying his people.

Oh no. Is this a two-vict situation? Is this pre-two-victs? It's a two-vix situation? Is this pre-two-vix? It's a two-vituation. Well, two-vix was the combination and this sounds like the separation. It does. This is going to be a loathless BLT. Oh yeah. Little bit of the first time I've seen a loophless Roxanne Dawson since I saw her play a character on an episode of Baywatch. Well, you know what that should be the next bonus episode of Greatest Gen. Show me that Baywatch epin.

Our smash hit side podcast, The Santa Monica Mountains. Yeah, let's do another one of those. That's an admin too. Yeah, very problematic episode that she's in. Oh no. You're required to learn as you play, roll. I'm gonna go ahead and head to gach.bislashgame and roll this bone.

We are currently on square 100, the Mornhammered Square. Yeah, and I have no I don't know I don't know what happens now. I'm gonna hit this roll button see what What does happen? Tula! Did I win? I've rolled a three and what that has done is put us on square three. There you go. Regular old episode next week. There's our answer. We're going to be stone cold sober for the second week of the Max Fund Drive.

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