The Greatest Generation - A Man, A Plan, A Barion Sweep – Entrepreneur! (S6E18)
Episode Date: June 7, 2017When the Entrepreneur is getting sprayed for space bugs, the entire crew disembarks for a local planet famous for its incessant smalltalk and picturesque horse riding trails. But when a ruthless group... of criminals try to steal the nastiest stuff that comes out of the ship’s reactor, only JL Pipes can stop them. How often do the ship’s flight attendants have to do a brief safety demonstration? What other ‘hand stuff’ did Picard learn from Sarek? Is this just Wars trying to pull a heist on Trek? It’s the episode where chattiness is punishable by death.
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Well, one thing that was and is a sure thing, Ben Ben is one of our favorite episodes I thought.
Season 6, episode 18, Starship Mine.
The entrepreneur is gonna get fumigated.
They are building a circus tent outside of it,
and they're gonna spray for bugs.
Everybody's gonna check into a motel down the road
for a few days while the toxic chemicals do their work.
This is fun world building, right?
It really is.
I love hearing the like announcements in the hallways.
Attention personnel on DEX 14 and 15.
Your transport or room assignment has been changed.
And like everybody's like scurrying to get everything done before they have to shove off.
They're also telling you the rules while they're talking about other things, right?
The doctor's got some living stuff.
This baryon sweep is going to kill all of it.
What are we going to do about it?
It's going to kill all of it. What are we going to do now? It's going to get exposition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, yeah, the captain is like wandering through the hallways, like trying to, he's trying
to get his own shit done, but, you know, everybody has a little last minute question or
thing that they want him to sign off on, and he keeps having to kind of, like, yeah,
no, you go tell them that they can use the transporter in the cargo bay.
That should be good enough.
It's a glimpse into Captain Picard's life
that I think we rarely get.
So often we see him in the ready room in solitude
or in his quarters playing the recorder.
But we rarely see him out and about
as like a man about his starship town, you
know, and how difficult that's got to be as basically the celebrity of his ship.
Right.
Can you like run up to Captain Picard with some shit if you're like a lieutenant or do
you have to be senior staff?
I don't know because it's so hard to think of an analog to what we have right now. I guess if you're a politician walking to work,
you could be approached by a regular Joe.
Like a Joe the Plummer type.
And by that, I mean exactly Joe the Plummer.
It's a fun scene.
I think we get just about all of the main cast in this scene.
Picard doesn't seem to have a great capacity for this either.
Even for people who are like, look, I think the situation we were describing just a moment
ago was about like, commoner, bugging, uncommon. But these are senior staff people
coming up to him with problems and proposed solutions
that it, and that's even getting his, his cockles up.
I have seven living tissue samples
that won't survive the variant sweep any more
than you and I would.
I tried to reasonably...
All right, have, come on, LaForge,
transport a stasis unit from the astrophysics lab?
I think he's just irritated because he's like,
do I have to fucking think of everything?
Just, you know, get Jordy to use one of the stasis chambers
from the astrophysics lab for your fucking samples,
Beverly, like, give me a break.
It's like they've already forgotten about
Jelico's brief time on the ship.
Jelico empowers the crew to get things done.
Yeah.
This is a ship full of children.
They all need daddy's sign off.
Yeah.
Yeah, it sort of makes it seem like Picard
is much more of a micro manager than we know him to be.
Like he's not usually like this.
Like when Jordy comes and says,
I think Barclays, not that great a crewman,
he's like, well, figure out a way to get along with him.
He's not like, he's not like, up in everybody's business all the time.
This also makes me curious about how often they drill abandoning the ship.
Because you know how like, on a commercial aircraft, like the rule is, the law is you're
supposed to be able to evacuate the plane in something like 90 seconds or two minutes.
It's some unfathomable number.
But you take weeks for everyone to get off of this ship if they leave the way that we're
seeing in this opening before credit scene.
When you get on a cruise ship, they have like a mustard at some point like on the first day
And they like go through all the like lifeboat procedures. You would think that a
Starship crew would be
Pretty drilled up on this. Yeah, not the case
Especially when I would have assumed that they knew this was coming for a while
We have to do what?
When?
The deal is that because they've been warping around so much,
the whole of the ship has built up barion particles.
And they have to, like the fumigation
is going to sort them out for this. So it's going to kill all organic matter as a side effect.
So everybody gets off the ship.
And they're setting up like damping fields
in certain parts of the ship where
there's sensitive electronics that they don't want to get
messed up.
I was wondering if data could hang. Like, would data survive this?
If it's something that they care about, I feel like they're using the dampening field.
And I don't know, man, I guess the way that data treats himself would lead me to believe
that data would want to try it. But I think they'd probably set data up with one of these dampening fields. Maybe they don't trust data alone on the ship.
Yeah, I guess not. The other thing with data is that he's trying out small talk. Like Picard
gets on the elevator and data's on there and he's like, It has been quite a day.
That was some gaff by local politician, wasn't it?
Picard is like, what the fuck is going on, Data?
Data's like, oh, I've written a new program for Small Talk, so how do you think I did?
And Picard has a pretty withering insult here.
Actually, it was a little too non relevant.
They're really pushed in hard on both of their faces in the scene.
Did you notice that?
Yeah, they're also standing with their shoulders like physically touching, which I never do
on an elevator.
Well, I mean, they're doing that thing that's like TV and film close is different than
real life close.
Yeah.
So I sort of gave that a pass,
but the composition is really in there.
Like, you're really into every fold in the face.
Yeah, you could see that one of Data's contact lenses
was coming off of his cornea a little bit,
and you could see the brown of his real eye behind it.
Hmm.
It was that close.
Ha ha ha.
Picard gives him some free social advice.
He's like, you might want to tone it down a little bit with a small tuck.
Like, it's not super cool to literally talk about nothing.
I don't think I have salsa on the table.
What do you need salsa for? But I tell you one thing, this commander Hutchinson
down on the planet surface, he's gonna be a guy
who's like a black belt in this shit,
so prepare to equate yourself.
Warf is aware of Commander Hutchinson's reputation
and manages to secure an excuse not to go
to the welcoming reception.
We request permission to be excused from Commander Hutchinson's reception.
And to her, Gerides like, oh snap.
Captain permission to be-
I cannot excuse my entire senior staff.
There's a wall of beach to it.
Which was really fun.
It was like a totally good joke.
It was written as a moment of comedy that played, that didn't break anybody's
character. It was so nice to see that. Like, somebody in the writer's room successfully
inserted comedy into this, not that comedic show, and pulled it off.
There are a few instances of that throughout this episode.
This is the moment that I started thinking about,
like, you know how when a United States Navy ship
has to go through the Panama Canal or something,
like there are all sorts of areas of the globe
where they've got to put into port for some reason,
like, and this is one of those moments for the enterprise, right?
A man, a plan, a berry on sweep, entrepreneur.
Yep.
And, like, they're using contract labor to do this.
This is not like a federation company that does this service.
Like, why isn't Warp's place with the senior staff
on a planet's surface?
Like, for security reasons alone?
Well, Warp is in a bodyguard.
He's a tactical officer.
Like, I think he kind of serves as chief of police,
but I don't think that his role is really like muscle as such.
I just think this whole setup is this crew slowly pulling
their pants down.
But they have no reason to mistrust these people also.
Like, Hutch is there.
Like he's fucking annoying, but he's not running a criminal enterprise or anything.
Like they don't...
Yeah.
Yeah, when you see Hutch, you cannot possibly suspect anything untoward.
Yeah, which is maybe what lulls them into this false sense of security.
Yeah. They've mostly cleared off the ship.
Captain Picard has a last little moment on the bridge where he kind of takes a deep
breath and runs his hands over some of the panels.
It's nice. Yeah.
It is the exact opposite of the moment we got to open the show, which is the Herried
Captain descended upon by his senior staff for every answer to every question.
Like that quiet time alone with his ship was really nice to see.
Yeah. And there's also that feeling of like,
I used to work in an office environment,
and after everyone leaves that stillness
of the workplace that you never get during office hours,
is really enjoyable.
It really is, and they really like,
I think that they up the ante and they're selling of this when the
work crew comes onto the bridge, and he kind of silently goes into the elevator and gets
out of there.
He avoids that kind of interaction with the people he wasn't expecting to see there.
He was enjoying the privacy of that moment,
and he doesn't upset the privacy of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nice.
This is an episode, what is about to unfold is
in this and in many other scenes,
just seeing the ship in a different light.
Seeing it even in a literal different light.
It's so fun to be there when it's quiet and dark, even when you're running for your life.
It's just a really great visual.
It really reinforces that Star Trek as a place when you get to see the place under different
circumstances.
Right.
So the idea is they've got to shut off all the power
to the ship, they've got to murder it out
and then run this beam over it to get all the poopy off.
And this beam is not great for anyone who is made
of biological matter.
It's basically like a green, like advancing firewall, you know, like it's, you go and
die if it hits you.
Yeah, it starts at the base and then ends at the tip.
We come back from opening credits and the reception has started and it's like a bunch of the senior staff
kind of you know there's kind of like a table with some with some arrayed
appetizers and data is having a fun time kind of like lurking in the you know
he's like hiding behind potted plants while this commander Hutchinson
like chats up different people and, you know, you get the sense very quickly that nobody really
wants to be in commander Hutchins and sights because if he has you, he's going to talk your ear off
and it's just going to be enane as fuck. This is the sort of party that has like
super tall glassware filled with candy and snacks.
This glassware always seems like it would be a good idea
to own, but you only ever use it once.
Yeah, it's the kind of glassware that if you're not
extremely careful, it's gonna dump a bunch of
red liquid all over your uniform.
That's what I'm saying.
Rakers walking around with a glass,
Jordy's walking around with a glass,
you never see them drink out of them,
and I think that's for a good reason.
Helodangerous.
Yeah.
So among the people here are Hutchinson,
and then there's these other two lofie guys. The planet has like an alien population
and one of them is Orton, who's like the
administrator of the array, I guess,
played by Glenn Morshauer, a real that guy and I didn't even
recognize him under all that loaf.
They gave him a lot of it.
Awful lot of loaf on more shower in this episode.
But you might recognize him from playing every secret service agent ever.
He's from 24, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he's secret service in 24, but he's played Secret Service in like, a ton of movies and stuff.
He played a security officer on this show also, didn't he?
I believe he did, yeah.
He's got next-gen credits.
He plays his character really interestingly,
because, you know, he's sort of like
space garbage dump guy,
and that he is easily frustrated by his circumstances
and the people he has to work with.
But he's not super venomous about that.
He really dials it back into an interesting,
like he's really in the margins a little bit
of his own character in a fun way.
Right, he's not defeated and he's not rip shit.
He's this kind of quiet man who is irritated.
The way he gives Riker gratitude for getting him off the hook of his
conversation with Hutchinson is great.
Thank you.
It made me like him in a weird way.
Yeah. Like even he can't stand that guy. Hutchinson's gonna get his.
You gotta wonder how much he hates Hutchinson, given what happens a little bit.
Well, Hutch walks up to Picard and I guess Picard like choice to introduce Hatch to
to Troy and Jority to see if that'll
get him off the scent and he let slip that there's like
places to ride horses around here and Picard is like oh word
for real for real like I'm I'm going back to the entrepreneur and getting my saddle and and
and
Like that is that's like
sufficiently weird excuse that Hutchinson doesn't doesn't realize what's going on
The card is back on the entrepreneur with his saddle and he has like changed into a suede, suede jacket and a deep v and some pretty slick looking riding boots and like Juddburrs.
And he's like in the hallway and he's like, hey, why is that panel open and those electric cables
cut what's going on there?
And he walks over to it and Tim Russ,
who will go on to play Tuvac on Star Trek Voyager
as a human walks up to him and he's like armed.
I think for the sake of ease, we'll call him Huvak.
And Picard thinks pretty quick.
He's like, oh, my name's Matt, I'm the barber,
best in Starfleet.
And Huvak is like, well, I don't know what the fuck is going on with you, but like
you, you're not supposed to be here right now.
And Picard is like, all right, well, I'll get the F out of here.
And he turns around and like just before Huvak shoots him with his laser gun. Picard turns around and baps him with the saddle,
knocks him down and like drags him off into another room.
It's pretty good fight scene actually.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does he not neck pinch him also?
Yeah, which has got to be like,
that's a seric thing right?
He got that in the meld oh
You think he you think he picked it up from the meld. Oh, yeah, that's I'm positive. That's where my head can't him say it
Adam that is some rock solid head can't right that is that is a throbbing hard head can't just majestic
Get hang a washcloth on it. Oh, man
You might you might need to because it's dripping.
Gross.
Yeah, like, this is not the first time in this episode
where a Federation Officer will do that look away
and then kick some guys ass.
Yeah. That's the first lesson in the Starfleet Fight Club Dojo, right?
You're gonna learn that move first.
You never say I'm gonna fight you Steve.
You just smile and act natural and then you suck a punch.
A card runs off and he basically like be lines
for the transporter bay and he's like just setting up the transport to get himself
off the ship when the power cuts and he's left in a dark room on the pad with no transporter
and no way to turn it back on.
The lighting here is so great or the lack of it.
I mean, we've seen the enterprise
in various states of damage,
various states of power outage even.
And to see it just dark,
like dark with only the emergency lights on,
was so affecting and cool.
Yeah.
One day I had to,
I, you ever have one of those edits where you
have to edit overnight the shoot that happened that day and deliver the next
morning? Try to avoid it Adam, but it has happened to me. Yeah, I had to do one of
those a couple of years ago, but I had to do it on site in the office building.
And the door to the edit suite,
you know, the edit suite didn't have any windows,
but all of the office space around it did.
And after like six hours of editing,
I opened up the door to go to the bathroom
and to like see the office space totally dark,
save for one fluorescent bulb, was super creepy,
and that's what it made me think of when I saw the
dark transport room.
Yeah.
It's such a great moment for him to set the timer on it too and have it blip out as soon
as he gets on the pad.
Yeah.
Really great.
Very, very good.
So we're back in the reception and the entrepreneur senior staff are just chilling out.
Data has gone full bore with his small talk program, like he is boring the shit out of
Orton.
At some point, he like starts talking to Hutch and that's like two pigs in shit.
But he's really cracking up Beverly and Riker too.
They're very much enjoying this.
The deal is like they are completely oblivious
to what's going on.
And we kept back to the entrepreneur and like,
Picard has got Huwak on the floor in,
I think it's in Six Bay and he's like interrogating him, he's got a phaser
out and Huvak is like, the barrier sweep uses a high frequency plasma field, your phaser
won't work.
You probably rise.
I'd like to bet this one.
The laser will become a dead lady.
Huvak's like, yeah, but the thing is you're a good federation person.
The Geneva Convention would seem to indicate that I'm going to be just fine.
So Picard is like going to try and apply him for information and if you like, won't give
it up.
Yeah, real dead end, real fast.
Yeah, it's, it, like, I feel like maybe Picard hypospraise him a little too quickly.
Because-
Yeah, it almost feels like we're missing a scene here.
Yeah, because this guy's like a hardened criminal,
but he's not a secret agent who's had anti-interrogation
training or something, right?
Like, he knows the jig is up for him at this point.
Why doesn't he just turn in the other guys and get a lighter sentence or whatever?
I don't know, maybe he knows the punishment for turning on his crew is worse than this.
Hmm, maybe this crew is harder than we think.
Oh, listen, Ned, don't you try to...
I think your team ZSU Ring might have caught me on the lip.
Yeah, maybe. I think you're team ZSU Ring might have caught me on the lip.
Yeah, maybe.
Picard hypospraise him and knocks him out and is heading off to see if he can't figure
out what's going on.
I think he's taking the guy's radio at this point.
Classic move.
That's what your John McClain's will do, what your Jason Bournes will do.
Gotta take the radio from the bad guys.
Did you get a good look at this radio
and the symbol that was on it?
They go pretty close on it.
I didn't, I didn't look carefully at it.
It sort of looked like the symbol
of their crew was a narwhal.
Really?
Yeah.
That's fun.
Maybe that's just me.
Good luck, skin in the enterprise with the Bury on sweep. Thanks, Mr. That's fun. Maybe that's just me.
Good luck, Skane and the Enterprise with the Bury on Sweep.
Thanks, Mr. Narwhal.
Well, Picard doesn't make it very far before another...
That's from Elf.
Before another lady catches him and actually takes him into custody at this point. This is one of those uh those criminal crews where the girls are more bad-ass than the guys.
I kind of like that flip of the script. They're pretty scary you know. Yeah. They're not
styled to look scary like they didn't cast scary- people, but they seem to be like really like
willing to do pretty horrible things.
There is one of the aliens in their crew that has got like anti-loaf.
His face is so big compared to the rest of his head.
He's like all face and three head instead of four head.
Head like his proportions are way off.
Are you talking about the kind of meek guy
that's doing all the work?
Yeah, I am talking about that guy.
Yeah, that guy is pretty weird.
Yeah.
This is a fun opportunity for you to be able to do You will assist us. I am the cutest of all. You are all.
This is a fun opportunity for beef stew to go a little first blood here, right? On his own ship.
Yeah. Like, this is all about improvised weapons and traps.
Yeah, it's fun because like some of the rules of the world have been changed. Yeah, like if if
Fasers worked then he would have weapons he could access all over the ship, but they don't so
There's like four or five
phasor hand phasers that the bad guys brought that work and everything else doesn't
and with the added
everything else doesn't. And with the added specter of the barion sweep itself, as the sort of robotic antagonist
that sees no good side or bad side, that is just the unstoppable killing machine.
And it just like it raises the stakes every second that they're on board
because there's a smaller and smaller portion of the ship that they can safely be on.
This episode does one thing really interesting with the sweep itself which is it never shows you
what it does to a person. Everyone who dies dies off screen. I kind of wanted to see what it did. We've seen the Gore-Faser before.
Can't be worse than that, right?
Well, it's like, it's like, it's like, ships in the array, our ship.
And when that, and when that Barry on Sweep hits you, it's a huge rollback.
Captain sort of sounds like Kevin.
Yeah, it's all one fucking impression that I'm...
That's basically it. We have one impression only.
One impression only.
I think I would have liked to have seen what the sweep did to a person.
I think that is one area that I would criticize this episode.
Okay.
Just saying.
This is the scene, like,
Kazem Picard has been taken custody.
I think we get the brief scene where
like the senior staff find out that there's guns
all over this room that they're having their,
their light appetizers in. And Jordy sees them buried in the crudite. I was just
getting some very strange energy readings from your table here. Oh I'm sure it's
nothing serious. And that forces the hands of the aliens and so like they shoot
Hutch and I guess I guess Hutch is killed right? They fucking kill Hutch. And it's the guy who was so annoyed by him in the beginning.
Yeah.
Man, capital punishment for chattiness, huh?
No, Cathies will be permitted to be chattied.
They shoot Hutch and they also shoot Jordy.
And the laser that comes out of this gun incapacitates
Jordy and also removes his sleeves to his uniform.
I was confused by this.
Did it really?
Yeah.
Why is Jordy sleeveless the rest of the episode?
I got to show those guns, I guess.
He is showing some pipes.
Well, while they're locked up, we get to meet
the rest of the heist crew, and they are down in main engineering doing something to the
warp engine, and one thing they do, like, brings the lights back up slightly. And like the lady that captured Picard comes down,
and he explains that he's not the barber,
and they're like, well, we'll see about that.
And they have him like take a seat down in the corner
of kind of like right where Shemota
made his little his famous
jenga set. Yeah. And I guess they forgot to search him because he still has
Huvox laser in his pants. And that was real dumb. Yeah, that was a that was some
bushly shit on this on this heist cruise part. They're not used to taking
hostages clearly. I mean they say that they've been planning this for a long time, and this is like the
kind of thing you've got to plan for.
You've got to expect the unexpected in any criminal activity.
Picard does that thing where he takes the paperclip and sticks it in the outlet.
He'll get over it! Because there's enough distraction that he's able to like fuck up their damping field
generator, which means they're going to have to clear out of main engineering with a
lot less time on their hands than they had expected.
So it's compressing their timeline, which is just like, this episode is great at remembering to keep raising mistakes.
Yeah.
One of the mistakes are not super high, right?
Like the captain could die, but it's not the ship
is going to be blown up where Earth is going to be destroyed
or the Romulans are going to start a war with the Federation.
You know, like we've had much higher stakes,
but it makes sure to start with like high enough stakes
to get your interest and ratchet the tension up.
Right.
The key piece of information you learn here through Picard
is that up until now it's been wrong
that people have been on the ship,
but you don't really know what they're doing there and what they're trying to do is is
harvest this waste product off of the enterprise engines and then sell it to
terrorists to use in their bomb making. It's tri- it's tri- lithium that they're
trying to steal. Is that the same shit that uh, that sting used in uh, the first next generation film?
It is the very same. Yeah, you can use tri- lithium to destroy stars.
Yeah. So I don't know if we know that yet, but...
These missiles were destroyed, star-staff.
These missiles would destroy Stashduff. Well Kevin and your JFK there.
He's inescapable.
Doesn't JFK do that with his asses?
Isn't that a big part of the impression?
Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah
But part of part of what Picard has done is also like cause some some shit to vent out of the warp core which brings the
the safety garage door down and
he slips under it and like one of the
one of the other bad guys slips under it also and
they're ensues like a really fun crawling chase scene.
Very hard to have a chase scene look badass when everybody is on hands and knees.
It's a little bit wet-hot American summer. It's a little bit like peppy-lip-you and and female skunk like
I was also thinking like these floor grates do not look comfy for the knees. Oh the knee has got to be...
If you're an actor singing on that thing. And the guy chasing Picard you can tell that he's not enjoying it because he's not putting
a lot of weight down on those knees.
He's sort of like doing that crawl where your butt's up in the air and you're not putting
all your weight on your knees, you're sort of like spider crawling.
Do you think they give peace to some like neoprene knee pads to put under his uniform, but they
didn't give this other guy that because he wasn't a star. Are Jodpers not already padded in some ways that would be useful on deckplating?
I don't know, man. I've never worn any.
I don't want you to take this the wrong way, Ben, but you seem like someone who has at one time, worn Jodpers.
Do I look like Erica Estrada, the star of chips?
Can you do his trick with his hairline,
where he makes it look like he's wearing a wig
by pulling his hair around a skull?
That's a fun trick.
No.
Pull big things up and off, big things up and off, big things.
Quiet, give you nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Picard wheels around a corner, crawling, opens up a door and to much to his chagrin the sweep is coming down the tunnel.
So he's got to get out of there and the other guy comes around the same corner and she just cards a jacket.
And so he goes up to it. The door has been closed up so he's like looking at the jacket and the sweep comes right through the door and he goes up to it. The door has been closed up, so he's like looking at the jacket
and the sweep comes right through the door and he looks up
and then Picard like in the hallway,
here's the guy screaming bloody murder.
Sounds like an agonizing way to go, right?
Well, especially if because his face was facing the sweep,
like he's so slow on the uptake.
I guess it started at the top of his head.
Had to be awful.
And somehow incapacitated him so quickly that he couldn't turn around.
I guess crawling backwards would be pretty difficult.
And that circumstance.
I was picturing him like turning around and kind of misjudging it and getting a foot into
that thing and the pain being so compromising.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It seems really grisly, whichever version you head cannon it to be though.
Yeah, and so the body count is rising because Cards plan of using non-lethal weaponry doesn't really work because when he incapacitates
someone, the barion, so he just comes through for the body.
Right.
So, I think that's kind of why Picard decides to take this a little bit more seriously
and go down to worst quarters and arm himself with some medieval weaponry.
One of the things he gets is a crossbow that he dips the darts in Worf's suicide medicine.
On the communicator, he gets wind that what they're stealing is trillithium. And they're gonna try and get this trillithium
to 10 forward in like an improvised canister.
And Picard breaks radio silence to be like,
Don't be a fool.
You're not better than to try and move trillithium resin.
You don't just move it in a thing
that you made up with Giver style on the spot.
Casey, him and the copper wire.
You got it, McGruber.
Caleb, that feather.
Got your grooves.
Casey, come.
Right here.
There.
300 milligrams of trilothium.
It's like in the Old West,
if you were to put nitroglycerin in like a covered wagon
for a journey, like that's the sort of danger they're proposing here.
It's no bueno.
And I think the thieves have basically,
like the tension has been ratcheted up on them as well.
So they're basically like,
well, we either steal this and get out of here
or we're gonna be killed or imprisoned.
So, you know, getting, like, taking a risk like
this is, is like, fine enough game theory for us at this point because we don't have a lot of hope
anymore. And so, like, so, like, three-head is, is like, sucking the, the tri-lethium out of the
warp core. And she, like she like the the ringleader lady
lady Kelsey just like grabs the canister from him and is like let's go and he's
like I don't do that.
Her point is really well taken which is like don't be so tense Neil listen if something
goes wrong you won't have time to worry about it let's go.
I liked her whole deal for being like the heavy of the episode.
She had a lot of charisma. I liked her. She really did. She's a very likeable villain.
Yeah. And she's, it's a character that I would just love to get to know more about.
Like what drove her to her life of crime? Is she really like the sociopath that she seems to be
or is there something complicating that?
It's nice to be reminded that in this universe
there is such a thing as commerce
for those who are unscrupulous, you know?
Like you can go the federation path
or you can go the Han Solo path or whatever, you know? Like, yeah, she's kind of Han Soloish.
It's neat to see the two universes sort of collide like this.
Yeah, this is totally Star Wars during the Polo Heist on Star Trek.
Yeah.
The senior staff is like putting together a little plan in their captivity. The plan is that they can modify something about Joradi's visor to make a very loud sound
that will knock everybody but data out.
And so they're going to do that and let data like take control of the situation and try
and sort out the bad guys.
Isn't it weird that, I mean mean I understand that making an improvised weapon
out of Jordy's visor sounds pretty cool but like it's too bad you can't turn data into
a car alarm or something and like have him vocalize the same thing. Data seems like a great
instrument for getting out of a hostage situation and at no point is he
productive in that way
Yeah, he's he seems to be
Well, like he could have ripped these guys apart, right? Yeah, like when they were starting to like when they whipped the guns out
Data could have ripped them apart. Yep. Maybe there's some logic that like he doesn't know what's going on with the rest of the
crew and maybe ripping these guys apart would be bad for everybody else or something.
They don't really like explain why data doesn't just like go.
Go $6 million man.
Right.
Yeah.
I like the idea of data making the noise though.
What the fuck, the visor doesn't have a speaker in it.
That's what I'm saying.
It doesn't make any sense.
It just sounds like a camera flash recharging.
It doesn't even sound like a loud noise.
Meanwhile, Hutch is on the floor just evacuating his dead bowels.
They don't even bother to move his body.
They just cover him with a tablecloth
yeah you can tell that Hutch doesn't like he's eaten he's eaten poorly so it's
got to it's got to be really racing a hell of a stench it's nothing but wine and
peanut M&Ms or something not a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables at this party.
Yogurt dipped raisins.
Yeah.
Gross.
Yeah.
One of the thieves has like 50 nostrils on his face.
Like it's just all nostrils.
How many-
How many-
How many breath-right strips does he need to put on before going to bed? How many Biori strips does he need to use to get blackheads off of his face?
His face is like 40 T-zones.
Yeah, he-
He has a surprisingly un-oily complexion for as many T-zones as he has.
Fubriety hit that guy real hard.
Yeah.
Oh, do you think that's just acne scars?
He's human, but.
Ha ha ha ha.
Oh, man, that poor guy.
Oh.
He had to full on choose a different race.
His acne was so bad.
Yeah, yeah.
Accutane.
Accutane was not on the market when it hit him.
And he was just like, I'm going to go loaf.
But the only path from me now.
This guy catches a dart from Worf's Crossbow in the leg.
And it knocks him out.
I don't know.
Picard is leaning over him
when once again, he gets,
he gets taken into the custody of the bad guys.
Hold it.
This is like the third time he's been caught
with his pants down by these guys.
I am beginning to think that Picard may be hard of hearing
because in a completely deserted
starship he's not hearing the people walk up right behind him. Yeah, it seems
weird. Yeah. Maybe he should get that checked out by Dr. Beverly. Yeah. Well when
all this fun and games is over, maybe we hold take a trip down to six band deal a little hearing test.
There's a pretty gruesome scene in the Jeffries tubes where Kelsey and three head are like,
they've like just about made it to 10 forward and she's like, what's up with
this, what's up with this canister? Is it going to be hard to get the nasty nasty stuff out of it?
And he kind of like talks her through how he's planning on doing it and she's like, thanks buddy
and she phasers them. The key to membership in any Heist bin. I know you and I know this is to always make yourself
useful. Never, never remove your utility from the group. Otherwise, people aren't going to want to
split their share with you. Something about the escape has got to be on your shoulders. Yes.
And this guy, this guy forgets that. And that's why he dies. Yeah.
This guy forgets that and that's why he dies.
Yeah.
Yeah, Kelsey is like, is like, all right,
Hugh Vock died.
The guy with the really bad acne died.
I can take this guy out. Now I'm splitting my share 50-50 with this other lady.
Yeah.
This is going great for me.
Yeah.
This, this, this ice is not going exactly as planned,
but a lot of these, a lot of these accidents
have benefited my pocket.
She's getting more wealthy by the minute.
Yeah.
So they get up to 10 forward and the captain has set up a little trap here for them, which
is that there's like some powder that we see him mixing.
He set up some stage pyrotectnics from like a heavy metal rock show.
Like he's he wants to rock show finale the 10 forward area. Right. Yeah. Wayne and Garth have back
stage passes. Garth is just putting on a great show. Yeah. No on course.
great show. Yeah, no on course. He's basically fist fighting Kelsey for the last gun. And they tussle the way that's like, it's like two kids in junior high fighting, but they make
the rule like no punches to the face because I have braces, you know? Yeah, like she's
throwing, she's throwing haymakers at him and he's doing all grappling as much as he possibly can.
And leg grappling at that?
Yeah, she like knocks him down pretty bad and runs back over to her canister.
He like gets off the floor just long enough to get over it to her, but she turns around, she's got the gun.
She's like back the fuck off.
Well, my card, I guess I'll be the one to send your regrets.
And beamed out, she gets.
The Captain is like stuck in 10-4.
Picard to a caddy up base.
Deactivate the body and sweep.
The array is still fumigating, like the field is coming toward him closer and closer,
and he's like crawling
up into the windows to get as far away from it as it is possible to get on the ship.
And he's like desperately radiating. And it just turns off at the last minute and he's like,
hey thanks guys. And data goes, hey there's a ship just just leaving out of there. Is there anything
And data goes, hey, there's a ship just leaving out of there. Is there anything we should do about that?
And the card looks down on his hand,
and he's got the little stabilizer from the canister.
And he's like, they're not gonna get that far.
You'd be gay if you're just a balk.
Oh yeah, it's a total die hard two thing.
Yeah.
Good call.
Oh yes.
He's like face down in the runway.
Watching the the flames chase the about to take off plane. I
Love how they use the 10 forward space in the scene like not only do they fight in and it's been fought in a million times
Like that's not the the fun part
But but the crawling up into the windows part is great. Yeah
super good.
The crew comes back aboard Captain McCartes down
in Six Bay getting the little bumps and scrapes.
He picked up in his fight with the bad guys,
and he's like, yeah, but I just want to know
about where my saddle is guys.
And they've apparently been tearing the ship apart,
looking for it, and the war of comes in,
this is another great little bit of world building,
war of was like somebody put it in a maintenance closet.
And I just love the idea that like,
there's somebody on the ship
that's like, what's this fucking saddle doing
in the middle of the hallway?
Well, I guess I better put it somewhere,
puts it in a maintenance closet and walks away.
And like, they don't have like a,
you know, they're not gonna put it out on like a ship wide
announcement if you know where the captain's saddle is.
Like, that's ridiculous.
Yeah, that's not a good look.
Yeah, so, so it just like this.
They keep it on the down low.
Yeah, whore finds it.
There's your horsey button.
What?
What?
Fun episode.
Did you like this episode Adam?
Yeah, I really did.
It was great in retrospect and great on the rewatch.
Loved it.
Mountain worthy.
Totally mountain worthy.
I think that is an uncontroversial mountain app.
Yeah, agreed. At least for the two of us, maybe our viewers will
but seriously disagree, but.
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Drunk Shimoda.
Brent Spiner.
Yeah, kind of has to be.
All caps.
He just says he is.
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Spiner Hand Clap emoji.
Yeah. Brent Handclapp emoji Spiner Handclapp emoji. Yeah, you're picking up what I'm putting down.
Yeah.
I mean, the scene where he is like wordlessly mimicking Hutch is one of the great scenes
of his career.
It's so funny, it's so, it's so in character. One of our
viewers has a gif on her Twitter handle or something where she's doing some of the little
like looks and gestures. She's done like a shot for shot redo.
A French finer doing this.
And it's like one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
I wish I could think of her user name off the tablet.
I know, it's hilarious.
If she tweets at us, I'll retweet it.
I mean, legally, the Shimoda must go to Brent Spiner.
However, I am not giving my Shimoda to him.
What? Just a little to him and cheese
for my taste, Ben. I so disagree. I instead am giving my Shimoda to Commander Riker, who
in a moment that we sort of glossed over. So they're coming up with this plan, right? Turn
Jordy's visor into a car alarm.
And they're like, the only thing we need is a distraction while we turn little jeweler screw drivers
on the visor to get it to do this thing we need it to do. And right, there's like, I've got an idea
so he conjures up to one of his captors and he's like, I would like to discuss terms.
And the guy is like, I am not even trying to hear that right now. Go sit on the floor in the corner.
And Rikers like, no, I really think, you know, like, you know, I'm a federation guy,
I've got to explain to you, like diplomatically what needs to happen here.
Humor me, right?
And he's like, fine.
Eventually getting himself punched in the face several times.
Like, Riker's form of distraction is getting his ass kicked
and he just gets the shit kicked out of him.
Hard.
In a way that like, in a way that it's been since Admiral Quinn,
since we've seen Riker take it this bad.
Yeah.
And he like sort of staggers back to Beverly? Like, did you get what you needed?
Beverly is like, yeah, you really didn't have to lead with your face on that distraction, though.
To me, that just seemed like a very fun, not a fun scene for an actor, but a fun scene for a character, for Riker to do that.
Have you ever gotten punched in the face for like knowing somebody who took a really hard punch to the face?
I have not been punched in the face. Like, and by someone who has a meant to do that, I should say.
I used to hang out with a person who I later stopped hanging out with, but one time we were at a bar in Manhattan and this person chose to help himself to a piece of art hanging
on the wall. literally like took off their t-shirt and fitted around this painting or
whatever it was and tried to walk out the door of this like crowded Manhattan
bar and the bouncer just threw like the craziest haymaker and their face was
like swollen shut for the rest of the week. It was like a month-thruening injury
this one punch to the face and
They didn't bleed or anything like Riker is bleeding out of both sides of his mouth. Yeah, I want to know more about this story
I have a couple follow-up questions Ben. It was pretty wild, because I didn't want to be
associated with what had happened.
Yeah, what did you do?
Well, I was standing outside with another person
that we'd gone there with.
And when our then friend came out with this super obvious gambit of stealing the painting.
I said to the bouncer like, because the bouncer wanted to keep this person there,
you know, do like a citizen's arrest. And I was like, that will get you arrested for assault.
You're not allowed to just punch somebody like that. So maybe just let them go and be happy that
your painting is still here. And then we went and bought like a sack of frozen peas or something, but God, it was like,
it was like, uh, he got punched right in front of you too.
Oh, yeah, it was ugly, man.
Was he shirtless?
Like, did he take off his only shirt and put it around the painting?
It was shirt off and then jacket back on zipped up.
So that was the, that was the way he thought he would look slick.
How great was this bar art?
I don't know good enough to attract the
average of a stupendously drunk 20 something.
So did you help this guy recuperate? Like did you bring him
peas and we were roommates at the time, man. Oh no. Yeah. Was this the beginning of
the end for you guys? It was not and that's that is my mistake. Wow, your tolerance is far higher than mine.
Yeah, I should have...
I've dumped roommates for parking in my parking spot.
Hahaha.
Man, I'll keep that in mind as our comedy partnership goes forward.
Yeah.
Wow, what do we have coming up on the next episode, Ben? The
next episode is season six episode 19. Lessons. Picard is torn between love and
duty when he has forced to send the woman he loves on a potentially deadly
mission. Do you remember this episode Adam?
I am unclear about Picard's capacity for a standard definition of human love at this point.
So like for you to paint this picture of like what's coming up is really going to be hurtful for Picard and he's got to like
send someone to their death.
Like, Vash has been gone.
Like he didn't even ask about Vash when Q came back and he was really in love with
her.
Yeah, he banged Vash and everything.
Yeah, so whatever man, like, I've got my doubts about him. I think maybe he could be a sociopath
He could be that guy that you warned girls about
Dang
It's pretty hot take-bin
Fresh hot out of the oven
Yeah, wow. I don't really remember this episode though. I remember that they do a lot of playing music together
and rather than taking the form of jamming,
it takes the form of them playing like frerasjaka.
Always with the frerasjaka.
Yeah.
License free.
It's the first lady that Picard's felt comfortable enough around to show her his flute.
It's hard to get that first one out of the way.
The first reveal.
Yeah, you can make it really nervous.
I know.
That's why I like to make a joke out of it. Like fake the accident.
Oh, I thought you were going to say like she thinks you're going to go for a smooch at
the end of the night in the car and then you take it out.
He took it out.
Way to just give yourself a nice drop there, Ben.
That's some drop theory.
Yeah.
You're teaching drops 201.
Yeah. Yeah.
What that kind of behavior?
Yeah, advanced drops is not far around the corner item.
Yeah.
You want to say goodbye?
Yeah.
not far around the corner item. Yeah, you want to say goodbye?
Yeah.
You have such better transitions into the last thing
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Make it sound.
Oh, that's so sweet. You ended that like a hallmark card.
Yeah.
Lowered expectations.
Suns out, flutes out.
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