The Greatest Generation - A Nike Shoebox Full of Pathogen (VOY S6E19)

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

When the Voyager crew tracks down Icheb’s parents, Seven’s own trauma makes her hesitant to trust them. But when the family reunion escalates from awkward to xenocidal, Captain Janeway changes her mind about needing to let him go. What is the job of adults at a science fair? Is there a fancier name for a sewer pipe? Why do the Borgs hate Yivel? It’s the episode that wants to get Seven a pair of Dr. Martens.Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

William Shatner wrote, directed, and starred in the fifth Star Trek film in the winter of his 57th year. Over the next three decades, the film has been pilloried as one of the worst entries in the series. But when Shatner had fallen on hard times becoming primarily known as a television pitchman for a travel booking website, The recent share your embarrassment tour earned him a sudden, unexpected second run at celebrity. Well, everyone knows that Star Trek V is a catastrophic failure of a film that nearly ended the franchise.

What this tour presupposes is, maybe it isn't. Let me ask you something. Why would a reviewer make a point of saying someone is not a genius? Do you think I'm especially not a genius? You didn't even have to think about that. Did you? The share your embarrassment tour.

Coming to just a few more cities this year, ticket still on sale at greatestjentour.com. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your back shot. Hello! I'm Captain Captain Brinjane where the U.S. is. Boy, I'm Captain Captain Captain Brinjane where the U.S. is. Boy, I'm Captain Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pryanaka.

Ben Harrison sitting in a room that looks like a room, but is in fact a number of mosquitoes arranged in the shape of a room. Three mosquitoes wearing a trench coat. Yeah, getting into a movie with adult themes and also biting me. I am inside and I have like deep woods mosquito repellent on right now. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's awful.

It sucks. It has been a bad mosquito season this year in a place where mosquitoes aren't supposed to exist. Beautiful. Los Angeles, California. Yeah, sucks. I've been getting to myself. I heard one in the night in my ear last night. Oh. That's a bad way to wake up. No, don't like.

Hey, you know what else is a bad way to wake up? My wife told me this story just today. I have been sleeping so deep from being jet lagged or maybe not jet lagged or whatever it is when you're flying for 24 hours and four days and you're not all the way on London time or at late time. I'm like, I'm in the middle ground. Anyway, I'm sleeping great. I'm sleeping so great that there was a helicopter over our house last night that woke our dog up and Ripley started voicing her displeasure and I guess in my sleep I turned to my wife and I covered her mouth with my hand.

Isn't that nuts? I have zero recollection of this. I was just watching Nova documentary about brain science yesterday and they had a whole segment in it about sleep walking and how like parts of your brain can be on while other parts are off and it sounds like whatever Traveling 24 hours and four days did you, maybe it did that specifically.

Never slept better. I recommend it. This is reminding me of a little song I came up with. My wife and I went and stayed at a house with some friends in Southern Italy right before the London show. Used the Italian friends or American friends who went to Italy with you. They're Americans.

Okay. And one of the days we just made food there at the house and I was making croutons out of some bread that had been bought a few days earlier and was no longer useful for bread purposes. Ah, that real fresh croutons are the best, aren't they? Yeah, frying them up in some butter, and then I was crushing tons of garlic and throwing it in there with while they were sauteing.

And I came up with this little ditty. I smell the croutons that you eat when you're talking in your sleep. I love that song. And I was doing it so much that everybody got stuck in their head and they all hated me. That song is such a great bass dive bomb. It's a bass diddy and then that boom. It's such a fun part. Yeah, it's good stuff.

Is it your fun part? Yeah, it's good stuff. As your wife forgiven you for kind of unwelcome and unwanted mouth cover? I got to tell you, like I was horrified to hear that story. Yeah, that's not a nice thing to do to someone. And even though you weren't doing it consciously, it's like, yeah, like hard to wrap your mind around having been that person.

Yeah. Is this gonna be another pizza gate for you? Like are people gonna be like Adam? Boy, I hope so because I love when accusations are leveled upon me and you, without the accuser knowing all the facts of the situation. That's great. But yeah, I mean, I didn't remember that.

She says it's fine. And I believe her. She's like, yeah, it was weird., I mean, I didn't remember that. She says it's fine. And I believe her. She's like, yeah, it was weird. You must have really been sleeping deep. So I am as ever grateful to have such a forgiving wife. Your wife's great. I've always thought so.

Yeah. What's the weirdest thing you've done in the middle of the night to your wife? We're going to get you on the board, Ben. I can't be the only one hung out here. Oh, yeah. When, as long as we're crucifying hosts of greatest gen. Yeah. Yeah, let's get a spose up there on those creuses.

I am not a sleepwalker. My mom has stories of when she was a kid, like she would like sleep walk out of her house and like down the street. Like she really, really freaked her parents out a couple of times. I mean, she was like, she was growing up on air force spaces. So it was like relatively safe, you know, generally speaking, but I've not been a sleep walk.

I do like talk in my sleep, but my wife talks in her sleep a ton. Oh. And it's all incoherent. I don't hear the secrets that she keeps, and I don't smell the croutons that she eats, because she always presses her teeth before bed. My loss, right? I can actually have interactions with my wife

in her sleep when she's talking. But that's great. I don't want to fuck with her like that. But she will like out of the blue say something and then I will try to ask a question about the thing she says. And just like when she's awake, she becomes very frustrated with my inability to understand what she's on about. And that usually makes it a very brief conversation. Just like when she's awake, you're just being shamed back to sleep.

Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm sleeping so deep. In self-defense. Well, do you want to see if anybody acts in a strange amount of self-defense on today's episode of Star Trek Voyager? Oh, nice pivot. I didn't see that one hanging there, but there it is.

Yeah, let's get into it, Ben. It's a Star Trek Voyager season six episode, 19. Child's Play. Reaver Course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo dutts, I'm not turning around. Oh! And we open during Science Fair Day.

Yeah. And the exhibits are awesome. The Borks twins have grown some potatoes in weird dirt. And they keep them all weird. Did you read that these weren't even real potatoes? These are resin potatoes. I suspect it as much because they are identical, but I also sort of thought maybe they were like Photoshopped,

like they just had one potato and they did like a clone stamp to put the second one in the shot. It just looked weird enough and it's low-res enough that it was hard for me to tell in what way specifically it looked weird. I thought this would be a unique prop item to own. You know, I'm always looking for these, Ben.

Oh, yeah. Always looking for a weird prop item. In the last episode, I really wanted that clear vertical bread box. Oh, yeah. Always looking for a weird prop item. In the last episode, I really wanted that clear vertical bread box. Oh, yeah. Wasn't able to get that one. And I was like, well, what about these, what about these resin potatoes? Like certainly, they couldn't be that popular, right? So I go onto the, the it's a wrap website, you know, the website that does all of the, the Star Trek auctions, and taking potato to results separate listings. Wow.

Already purchased by Garrett Wong. So he got both of them or... He got Bofa, the potatoes. That guy is absolutely inundated with props. He was stating the obvious again. Share some with the rest of us, Garrett Wong. Does he have like free time outside of just sticking on these prop auctions? I don't know.

I mean, maybe that's how their podcast uses their producer, like just to win prop auctions. We work with our producer for serious work. Yeah, yeah, Our producer is actually... We would never give her a menial task. No. Never. How about new? Not on my watch.

Not once. So the job of an adult at a kid science fair is primarily to be excited about how cute things are, right? Like, you got to really overdo it at a children's science fair. Masati has done a sort of 3D ant colony. I like bugs. Well done. Naomi Wildman just has a globe.

Like she literally just went and bought a globe. Looks like people seem impressed by Naomi's science fair display, but I gotta say, like deeply, deeply down the list compared to these other ones. Yeah. I don't think it's a good look for Naomi Wildman. I think they're humoring her. I actually looked for this globe on that auction website

you mentioned earlier. Oh yeah? Ethan Phillips bought it. Hey. Hey. Ethan Phillips bought it. Huuuuh! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That's fun. Yeah. That's the kind of stuff I want. Like, I don't have a lot of room in my studio for like actual things, but things I could put on a wall. I got to let a wall space because these walls

go all the way up. Yeah, they sure do. You got high ceilings. You might have higher ceilings than I do. Yeah. How high do you think your ceiling is? I think these are 20-foot ceilings in here. Yeah, I think I'm working with 12 maximum.

Damn. It's a weird building. We both have weird buildings that we're in. They're so fucking bizarre. Yeah. So each step is actually done a science experiment. You know, like when you were a kid and your science project was like Papier, Mache, Volcano, that you poor baking soda and vinegar into, And then there's another kid that like,

did actual science. You know, like fuck. Yeah, but that kid wishes he did the volcano, right? Everyone wishes volcano. Yeah, I mean, volcano is fun. Did you have a science fair project when you were a kid? I remember being involved in it, but I also remember volcano being off the table.

Oh, yeah. I think a parent knows when to discourage volcano. If their child isn't ready, because I would have just gone in there for the biggest pop, right? Yeah, yeah. I think that volcano was just a class project at my school. And then if, I don't know if I ever had a science fair,

I don't think that that happened at my school. It's a shame. Do they have science fairs now? Yeah, I went to a science fair in the White House one time, the Obama White House. Listen to you, get in a White House invitation. Yeah, and the guy that played Kumar from Harold and Kumar go to White Castle

was the guy running it because he was like the youth outreach ambassador or something. Wow. Were there volcanoes made out of mini hamburgers? Hahaha. There. That sounds like fun. Yeah, I was really star struck. I saw him and the president on the same day.

Geez. Yeah. I suppose the only volcanic explosion related to white castle happens after you eat it. Oh snap. This is a science project that E-chip has made that is so serious, so adult, so useful, that like the overly kind, oh, that's cute vibe that the adults have given all the other children is replaced with a, oh, shit, we could actually use that, kind of react. It's like a scanner that can find the types of neutrinos that come out of space but holes and maybe help them find a way to get home a little quicker.

Yeah. You know, they can just plug it into their existing scanners. And seven is like, you know, talking a Jane way off in the corner and she's like, yeah, like, I think this kid's really got a knack for engineering and astro metrics and science in general. And I think he's kind of gearing for a permanent posting in the lab. And Janeway's like, hey, I don't think that's going to happen, man. I think he's going to be off the ship a lot earlier than he would have time to qualify

for such an illustrious position among the crew. Janeway points to a sign in the mess hall we haven't seen before that's now illuminated which is stop. Like, they're going to make the next stop to drop off each tip. Other way home. Oh yeah, jate. Those windows along one side of the mess hall that they have that like cable hanging from the top and she pulls on

That's it. I'm saying Yeah poor each have doesn't know this yet He's leaving. Yeah, and it's seven's job to tell him they found his parents and are looking to reunite each Heb with those parents. He's not going to be sevens probably any longer. Yeah, this should be good news for everyone involved, right? Yeah. So after the theme, she comes down to the ass lab and finds each eb in there and she's like, I have something important to tell you and is like, wait, first, let me tell you not much about how I'm just fascinated by science. This is classic kid shit.

Like when it's bedtime and you're stalling. Wait, I'm doing chores. See? Chores. I'm putting toys in the toy box. Yeah, so is a little soliloquy about how passionate he is about space science. Kind of makes it hard for her to spill the beans about this situation.

Yeah. So, she's like, all right, just, you know, once the choice is done, get to bed. And she pays a late night visit to Janeway and Janeway's quarters to confess that she's having some nerves about telling each have what's up. It's weird how Jane way does not see each have as like a voyessly crusher type like like he could be useful to keep around. She's not thinking that way at all. No, I think that the, you know, despite Seven's nerves about hurting

his feelings, these are two women that are extremely motivated to get the fuck rid of this guy. What do you make a Janeway wearin' pips at night? Well, she just wasn't like to wear those pips. She just took off her action jacket. She just hasn't, she hasn't completely got into her civvies yet. I kind of feel like when you're the captain, do you even need to wear the pips at all? Are you above the pips? Oh, man. I think so. Man, if I had pips, I'd wear them all the time.

I'd be wearing them right now. That's really it, isn't it? Like once you get that fourth pip, you gotta show them off. Yeah. You gotta get it on. Seven refers to what each ed will have to do as re assimilation

and boy, that is a very specific term, huh? Yeah. Sounds pretty cutting. Yeah. And seven's like Captain, that's our word. You are not allowed to refer to an A unless you are a B. We are now way past each have a sped time and Seventh goes down to the cargo bay and he's still up, scrolling around with new Trenop trajectories. Yeah. When's this kid going to fucking get some act right?

Yeah. It used to be that Sevin was a real strict mother figure. Not anymore. Yeah. He's like one of these screw around sci-fi kids that just wants to go to Tashi Station to pick up some power converters, you know. Yeah. What a low life.

You can waste time with your friends when you're chores are done. Come on, get to it Seven is this your idea of a good time to tell a kid that he's gonna be reunited with his parents Yeah, she like suddenly rips the band-aid off Boy it was dude we'll ride the go planet tomorrow right before he's about to go to bed And he's like I don't even know those guys He totally I don't know hers his parents, I don't even know those guys. He totally, I don't know hers, his parents. I don't know her.

Yeah, I mean, there's that, but there's also like, he really inflates his own sense of importance around the other kids too. I mean, seven's the leader here, right? Each of is not second in command of the kids. They depend on me. They adapt. I think that's a little presumptuous, right?

Yeah, I mean, although like the way Borg's hierarchicalized themselves when they're disconnected is a little bit inscrutable. Like, for example, that time the tertiary adjunct was bossing around the primary and secondary adjuncts. Yeah, you can't have that. A course is locked in. You're bored. You're bored. Listen to me very carefully,

because I'm on my mind to see this once. You're bored. Speaking of Borg's continuity, Seven says something about how she never saw her parents after they were assimilated. Yeah. We know that's not true. We saw her dead.

Yeah. Uh-oh. simulated. Yeah, we know that's not true. We saw our dead. Yeah. Uh oh. Don't love the implication of that. Yeah. Like, is that not your dad anymore? Seven? Is that what you're saying? I really like how they bulk up all of the reasons that each of shouldn't be excited to go home to his home world. Like, the unintentional comedy of seven being like, yeah, your people are farmers and their ships are shitty. And they live on a very bad planet

that's been totally blown out by the borings, like repeatedly. And each of here's all this and he's like, God, that's weak, the sucks. Do they even have power converters? Do they even have powered converters? Do they even have video games there? Do they know what neutrinos are even? You need to be on a side early.

I really think this is an important scene. Not a lot of reasons for him to be excited here. The next morning they pull up to this planet and it is a real shithole. I mean, you can just see from the surface, it's like a bad color of planet. It is a bad color. They're talking about how like it's pretty sparsely populated and it's little scrappy outposts. It's in a bad neighborhood, it's near a transwarp conduit. So board cubes are just flying out of that thing toward this planet all the time.

Yeah, but Ben, those views. Pretty good place to put a starter house, I think. Yeah, it's sort of the worst planet on the best block. And that's what you want, I think. You know, I see this neighborhood turning around in fiber 10 years. This is an investment that's only going up. I heard a whole foods has got plans for this tree. And you know, do I feel a little bit guilty

about the families that are being displaced because they can no longer afford the neighborhood? Yes, but am I in charge of how the economic system works? No. Janeway has been all about giving people asylum over the course of the show. Even those who don't deserve it, don't ask for it, whatever. But with each eb, she's like, there's something about him I don't ask for it, whatever. But with each eb, she's like, there's something about him I don't care for.

Something that makes people uncomfortable to be around. Like, don't you think it's weird how... She's not even neutral. She's like, this is the right choice to make. The reuniting of him with his parents. Yeah. So, seven goes down to meet up with each step and we cut to the six bay where he is

getting his checkout diagnosis from the EMH and he's got a bad case of butterflies. I don't know, I think he was misdiagnosed. I think this is clearly irritable kids syndrome. Ha ha ha. Kind of let a lip coming off at you, Chip here. Yeah. Parents are irrelevant, really. You know, it's a very relatable this pleasure he has.

Like Brunali culture sounds incredibly mid and he is excited about his newfound love of space science and those guys just don't have a lot to offer in that department. I don't know how often this happened to you when you were growing up, but it definitely happened to me all the time. And it's definitely affected the way that I interact with kids, which is like an adult making an assumption about how a kid is feeling, about a certain thing, and frequently assuming the positive feelings about whatever that is. The doctor totally blows this with like, oh, these are good butterflies. You got to be so psyched to get down to that pile of trash planet to be a farmer with

your parents much in the same way that like, I don't know when I was growing up, I was not excited to do many, many things that my parents would be like, oh, you are going to be thrilled to be signed up for this sports league that you showed no interest in previously, like a shit like that, and odd and odd and odd and it's really changed like when I talk to my friends' kids about what they're interested in

or what they're doing, like I never assume excitement. Cause I just remember knowing how shitty that felt and like how bad it made me feel to like not be on the same page in a situation, right? Why do I feel like I'm being sub-tweeted right now? Because you feel this way too. I just feel like you're trying to tell me how to be a parent. No, not at all.

No, that's a real thing. And my wife and I have found ourselves trying to make a conscious effort to try and measure that our baby doesn't speak any languages yet. But when a baby is crying, there's an instinct to say like, it's okay, it's okay. And that feels like it really invalidates a situation where you get in there with a, talk, bark, talk back.

I mean, it's very clearly not okay. So we're trying to just be congean just about like, you know, be available for his feelings, whichever ones they happen to be. But sometimes it's not okay. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a good idea to not train your kid, or in my case, your puppy, to think that things are okay when they're not. Yeah. So speaking of it's not okay. Seven walks into six bay and it's like, oh, fuck, are you hurt? And he's not hurt. He's ready to go. I think these butterflies are starting. Can you give me anything for the nausea?

Yeah. Doc. I love the establishing shot of this planet. Really great matte painting. You can see there used to be huge cities and now it's all rubble and like the settlement that they're beaming down to is in the middle of a huge crater that seems to have been part of a

classic board scoop everything up off been part of a classic Borg's scoop everything up off the surface of a planet attack. I like the canonical scooping of a Borg's attack. It's nice. You think they have a special ship for that or is that done by the cube? Well, if you look closely at the green beam

that a Borg's ship shoots much like like a 7-11 slurpee straw. There is kind of a hole and a curvature at the bottom. There's a little spoon. Yeah. That's how you get up the bits at the bottom of the planet. Yeah, that's the part that kind of carves out the section that they pull out of the saucer of the enterprise, right? The Borgs are constantly looking for the ice cream

at the center of the Shea Bies. So we meet each e-chibs birth parents. And they seem pretty nice. There's a little bit of like combative chilliness coming from seven at these folks. And they are admirably tolerant of it. Like once they learn like who seven is and what her deal is, like I think they're a little scared of her at first and then are super cool about the situation. Yeah, I mean, it's awkward and it's depicted as awkward

in the way that it should be. You just hate to see, God, there's something so visceral about like a parent asking a kid, how are you, and having that be just exactly the wrong question to ask. In a moment like this, it's just so awkward. I hated to see it. And of course, like mom and dad

are just getting their nuts totally clobbered by each step here. Because not only are they asking the wrong questions, they're like exactly the wrong people he needs to be with at the moment, you know? I would like to return to Voyager now. He has really been acculturated by Seven of Nine and his board's experience and these, you know, salt of the earth farmer people, just aren't the vibe right now. I mean, his parents are one thing,

but then like, his dumb brother is across the way, like digging a hole or whatever. I love how Yvel, each of his brother, is always depicted as yelling at him from far away. That was so funny to me at every point. At every point, you fell as like no closer than like 30 yards away going like, Hey, Chad, let's go play baseball later.

Each of them's like, who are you? And he yells at me across the way. My name is Jeff. I'm a name of Jeff. We haven't used that sound effect in a long time. I wanted to put it in. This meeting doesn't go great and it's followed up by a second meeting up on the entrepreneur. It's sort of a McLaughlin adoption. It's your one.

It's got real parent teacher conference vibes, right? Yeah, and this is sort of mediated by Janeway and it's each of his parents on one side of the table and seven on the other. And seven is kind of putting these people on the grill and asking them a ton of tough questions. Like how are you going to continue with studies? How are you going to take care of all of his unique medical needs?

Like, what about recharging mats? Do you have USB-C yet? Or are you still on USB-A? Seven. No, it's all right, Captain. There is nothing wrong with the questions that Seven has here. It's just the way that they're asked. Yeah.

They're just not used to like being hit with such pointed demands the way they're getting hit with. And they have a lot of poise under this pressure, but like later the captain is like, hey, seven, like maybe knock it off with being totally without tacked. I know you don't want to do it. Perfect, black. Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Did you in retrospect feel manipulated by a scene like this, like knowing what you know later about how much there was to hide,

about the parents relationship with each other? Like, to a certain extent, the story is intending to mislead you in a way that many stories do for plot. I like this though, because I think that it sort of continues that storyline of seven being a reluctant hero to these kids. Like she has been put in the position of being their caretaker

and supervisor and parenting them to some extent. And now with as much as she resisted that role and how uncomfortable it was to her at first, she's now like being the kind of protective parent that she never thought she would become. Yeah, I do really like the scene for seven in the way you're describing. And I do really like the scene for seven in the way you're describing. And I do really like the scene in general for just how crackly this conflict is between them.

Yeah, it feels totally charged. Because they're like, instead of space science, he could study agriculture. And she's like, he doesn't care about agriculture. He doesn't want to know about agriculture. He does like you. And seven produces a trapper keeper with a nub in bugger. And they're like, what is that? Some kind of like, is that going to like help pollinate our crops? And she's like, yeah, something like that. What do you know of conspiracy is kept not nearly enough, I suppose. I love the idea of like break glass for Nubbin Bug and just like in the middle of any episode, like

what if you just dropped a Nubbin Bug bomb into it? What would happen? We're 20 minutes from the end in a nub in box shows up. What? Instant favorite episode. Major Dairy episode. Janeways like seven, you need to leave. Like we can't have you in here like this. And like she excuses her so that Janeway and the parents can like be alone for the last part of this meeting.

And Janeway has a suggestion here that I think makes a lot of sense. Why don't the parents spend some time on Voyager so that each step can get to know them in a familiar place? And that, that sounds nice. That's good. Yeah.

The parents are like, is seven gonna be on the ship during? Because she seems kind of unhinged. Yeah. Do you have like a Delta flyer? You can send her on a field trip in. Something... Janeway kind of rang seven for the stunts she was pulling in this meeting. And so it's like, hey listen, like I understand why you're defensive and wanting the best for each ad, but there's coffee and a little more tact. You know, you got to sort of let each ad make the call here. Like, you trying to control his destiny is kind of giving overprotective parent and that's not really what he needs right now. Yeah. This is a really interesting scene for how it's blocked, right? Because it begins with that rail in between them.

Yeah. And the captain higher than seven. Yeah. And when seven discloses the reasons she's so upset being that each of parents' reminder so much of her own, Janeway comes out from behind the rail as if the block has been removed and they can get on the same ground with each other. It's really great. The hubris that these parents have of like, we know what's, you know, even though we live

in, you know, essentially a Borg firing range, we can protect them as well as anybody, smacks of the same kind of hubris that the Hansens had to seven. And that's a deep seated wound that she is feeling like she's reliving here. And it's not gonna feel good. I really, really liked how that tied together. Yeah, I thought that was very much. Great writing. At no point is there like the third part of the argument,

though, like there's the the danger of raising a child on a planet under constant Borg's attack. There is the danger of parents bringing a child on a science mission field trip aboard a ship to study the Borgs and the mist. But there's also completely unremarked upon the danger of being on Voyager at any given point, as well, right? It's not like the Voyager is a safe place either.

No, it is not, but this episode really does make Voyager feel vastly safer than that planet. Like, when they walk around on that planet and go like, nice planet, sitting gig, you got your splaces of dump. Just wait till you see the pool. There are many nice places on that planet. The kids are hanging out in the cargo bay and this is all the kids including Naomi Wildman. They're playing that game from a previous episode. Mazzotti is asking each have a million questions about like what's gonna happen when you go live with your mom and dad. Like what's going to happen, you know, we don't remember our pants, do

you remember yours? Are you finally going to stop acting like you're the boss of us or whatever when you get the fuck out of here? I think Miss Adi sees her angle, like she's going to be the leader once each ebbs gone. Yeah, this is great for her. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of a, just like a bunch of slick backs hanging out in a room together, which, yeah.

Just a bunch of slick backs fighting over the pomade and the leadership role. They were like, next generation had three slick backs. What, what a Voyager head, five slick backs. It's too many slick backs, I think. It's like, fuck it, we're going to five blades. In walk seven with a dinner invitation from E. Chebs parents, and it's really less of an invitation and more of an order, right?

Yeah, orders is orders. I'm not going. Your attendance is not optional. She takes them down to Nielix's restaurant where they're going to do this in a public setting. I was like, this is kind of cany actually. Like, get the family together, but do it in a place where there's like some social pressure,

not to scream and like flip the table over and stuff. There's a theory that's been a part of the the Doe Boys podcast universe forever, which has been like the Penera bread is a place where difficult domestic news is shared. Like it's perfect for that. And it kind of seems like Nelix is the Penera avoidger. Because I too was shocked that this wasn't a private dinner in someone's quarters. Even more awkward is that each of his parents hold down a four-top, but have to tell Neelix that it'll be three tonight.

Oh, God. That sucks. And he's like, come on, we're slammed. Like what? What are you doing to me? Each of his pretty reluctant to sit down with these people and pretty reluctant to eat their food because his mom is saying,

like, oh yeah, this used to be your favorite and he's like, well, you know, like I just eat bored recharge mat power now. I don't really mess with food. Unless there's a charging mat on that seat, I'm not aware of, I think I'm better off standing. But there's no nostalgic flavors, man. They work every time,

unless you've been changed at the genetic level to be a different type of alien, in which case your favorite food doesn't taste good anymore. No offense, but it's got sort of a metallic flavor. There was a geometry to like the dad defending mom to get the kid to be nice here that made my skin crawl. This is maybe just a personal sensitivity,

but yikes, I did not like that. If you wanna make your mom happy, you'll eat the meal that she works so hard to make. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I mean, it works out here, but if that's gonna be how things work in their family going forward, there's going to be a lot of simmering resentments.

Well, yeah, but in this case, you do see the ice start to break a little bit and seven sees the ice start to break and has to leave the room where she goes and downloads cooking classes. Immediately. She goes and downloads cooking classes immediately because she's going to make a meal that each loaded and ready. So the next day on the planet, they're hanging out in their shitty settlement where they do have a pretty impressive grow-up going. Dad is showing each app around, showing them all the... Do you think it grows so well because there's an open sewer pipe venting through town? I did not like this establishing shot

of like the thick brown water just rocketing out of a cylinder like eight feet wide. I'd like right at the settlement too. It doesn't really look like... It doesn't look like it's going around the settlement. It looks like it's going through. If I were a city planner down there, I'd establish my settlement uppipe.

I really wanted to know what the production secret was behind this, because did they, in fact, go to a quarry or something and pour tons of dirty water through a pipe to get this establishing shot or was that actually happening where they were? It seems like a great cop. Like you get the pipe footage

and then you color time it to brown. And you drop it in there. There's your brown pipe and your brown water. Color time it to brown was the name of your memoirs, right? Yeah. Truly is. It's impossible to get non-GMO produce here is each of his father's point, right? Like they have really fucked with the genetics of all the vegetation.

They're making it work though. Their planets totally fucked up and they have great gene editing technology and this is actually kind of intriguing to Echab. He's like, you know, this is kind of a cool type of science and he's trying to talk to his dad about it but then his brother is like, Hey, Ech his brother is like, hey, each

app. Maybe later we can go to Tashi station and pick up some power converters. Are you into that kind of shit? Each app. Remember me? My name is Jeff. I had a couple lines in an earlier scene and these are the last ones I'm gonna have. I'm not much of a character at all. Kind of confusing why they even left me in the script. All right, Eric Ritter reading for Yvill, go ahead and begin whatever you want. So it says in the parenthetical I'm just supposed to be yelling as loud as I can. All the dialogue really alright. Yeah, okay. There's about 30 people in the waiting room So you get on with it Like the waiting room the entire day is just hearing the yells from behind a

Construction great door. They cast a guy that didn't nail the cadence of Echeb's name also. Welcome home Echeb. That's funny. Yeah. You know what? He may not be able to articulate the words, but he's got that yell. Yeah. He's off in the bathroom going. Echeb! Echeb! Echeb! Echeb! Echeb! E you jab, I name it. Yeah. Dad tries to paint a rosy picture of the future of their society. Look, if you want to play with spaceships, you're going to have to build them yourself. It's basically his point. Not sure I love that takeaway here.

No, but seven beams down like mid conversation and restarts this tug of war she's been having with each of his parents about whether each of his staying or going. It's unfortunate to see seven beam down like in the high heels on a dirt planet. Yeah. Like I wish they didn't take the wide shot

of her on the beam down. She would look great in a pair of Doc Martens. Why can't you have some boots or something? Yeah. Yeah, something with a heavy lug. Yeah, something with some grip, for the loose dirt. A heavy lug is made for walking through mud and dirt environments. is made for walking through mud and dirt environments. The floor of your bar is a mud and dirt environment, best disgusting. Get yourself a floor squeegee. The only refuge I wanna see on the floor of your bar

is peanut shells. We're turning this into a peanut shell dive bar. The camera racks over to the wall where like there is an enormous menu like a wall size menu under the name peanut shell bar. I've given you 30 POS systems. These ghosts bars do a work overnight to get these chairs in here. Each chair has skis on the bottom for sliding over the peanut shells. And I got a subscription to bartender so you can find out how much profit you're getting

from your peanut chips. Sevens like time for bed, you chab. And each chab's like, nah, nah, I'm gonna stay here. I wanna sleep with mom and dad. And sevens like, well, you don't ever recharge Matt down here. I don't see how that's really possible. And each of them's like, well, why don't you build me one? You're not my mom.

And so seven does with each of his dad. This is kind of a good look for Seven. Like she comes down prickly and defensive and realizes, I think, over the course of this scene that this is not going to be a battle she wins by being defensive and shitty to E-chips dad. Especially in public and especially 200 yards away from E-chips brother, like where,

where he can definitely see the awkwardness of this interaction. Hey, it seems like a weird funware choice for me to be down here. What, why don't you get some Doc Mardens? Hey, is that an awkward interaction over there? It kinda looks awkward based on the body language, I mean, I can't really hear what you say is the body language awkward because she's having a tough time standing in the loose dirt and rocks of our planet service

Or am I actually picking up on an emotional situation? Is my job really just to squeegee the raw sewage that runs through town. Because I'm going to be doing this all day. What do you guys think about picking everything up and moving our settlement up? Type a little bit. So, seven sets up. Each hebs dead. Luke Han with a portable charging pad that's battery powered. So it's not gonna last forever,

but it's gonna be good enough for tonight. It's good enough for travel, right? It's like kind of like the travel kit that we have to take on tour. Yeah, exactly. And they have a pretty interesting discussion here about how and when Eche have got nabbed. I've wondered, because they were really surprised at how tall each

have was when he first beamed down. And I wondered if he was like much younger to them when he first showed up. He explains that he got nabbed four years ago. And I don't know if the Borg maturation chamber is supposed to like accelerate growth, but it sort of makes sense, right? You don't want a ton of baby borgs on board your ship. No, baby borgs are useless. Baby borgs are bifle buggers. Yeah, he shares this like sad story about each

have having been real into agriculture science and like run off, you know, without supervision and gotten. Then is that their idea of a fertilizing array? Is that what the brown pipe is? Like they give it a very sciencey name. Oh, yeah, that's our fertilizing array. It's just a sewer pipe. Yeah, I've been calling my butt my fertilizing array for a long time now. So that would make sense.

Yeah, you know, I used to like experimenting in fertilizing array stuff. It takes some prep, but it can be really satisfying. Really harrowing story, right? Yeah, and it's like very evocative story of a parent having lost track of their kid for just moments and that having been enough for the unthinkable to happen and he's been living with all this horrible guilt. You know, we never had to worry about that with his brother. He's always been between two and 400 yards away from us at a given point.

Yeah. Very far from the fertilizing array, really. No more, it's gonna get me over here! Way too far away! I'm covered in raw sewage, that's why I don't get to sneak it down! Get me over here! Way too far away! I'm covered in raw sewage! That's why I don't get to see them down! Just try to put me in a maturation chamber! I'll brown that water right up! The board's haped me, too brown.

Very sensitive nose on a board. So, uh, Lou can is like, so your parents must have been real busted up when the Borgs got you too, huh? And seven's like, no, they were with me when I got got. Yeah, they watched it go in. Yeah, and it's a touching little moment and we get another touching moment and rapid succession down on the planet

where Euchab is hanging out with mom and dad under the stars outside their little hovel. And the sound of thick brown water slapping on the buddy floor next to them. How late do you guys want me to keep at this? Because it's, I mean it's dark, I'm real tired. I can't even see what I'm doing anymore. I mean I can smell what I'm doing anymore. I mean, I can smell what I'm doing.

I think there's a hole in my boot. Yep, definitely hole in my boot. Turns out Luke-Anne has a real interest in the stars himself and this is great. Super relatable to each of a really sweet moment between him and his parents and the next morning each of shows up in the ass lab to break some news to seven. He does not have as hard a time breaking bad news to her as she does him. Real talk though. How sad is Echev's brother to like not get invited

into the stargazing or anything? Like they fucking hate that guy. Well, I think in, you know, once you know the twist at the end of the episode, it makes sense that they're not like letting the other kids and their family get super close to each other. Right, yeah. But the darkness of the scene is that it is like

the time share sales pitch. Like you think that this person is your friend that they are just trying to help you go on vacation for a much more affordable price and earn some equity in valuable beachfront property at the same time. and what they're really doing is scamming you. Yeah, like the darkness of, yeah, the stars are really, really pretty tonight, huh?

How'd you like to see them a whole lot closer? And through one eye, because your otherwise covered up with an ocular implant. Ha ha ha. Sounds great. Anything to get off this shift. Ha ha ha. I will take any job. Ha ha ha ha. You said I could work my way up.

You promised. So each of tell seven like, hey, I've decided that this is the place for me. I have reconnected with mom and Dad and going down there. And she and Janeway take him to the transporter room and say their goodbyes. And Seven gives him some nice goodbye gifts, stack of iPads and a telescope. And he's like, I'm not going to be needing that. They'll just implant one. telescope and it's like, I'm not going to be needing that. They'll just implant one.

Yeah. She takes the let down like a champ, you know? Seven doesn't take people leaving her very well. You know this about her. Way to keep it tight, seven. Yeah. She's really repressing her abandonment issues very effectively in this scene. And she and Janeway bid you chib a dia, and we fade to black. This is a commercial break. Maybe there's a fun to crap in two minutes is great, but I could make a play to crap in two minutes. How good could it be? The answer? Really good. I still can't believe it. Factor food sent me and my wife six meals to try.

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Each ab was not captured in the way Daddy says. She's having a tough time recharging. She wakes up on her charging mat and says like, hey, I'm feeling real busted up over each of going. Seven's trying to put her back to sleep and this story comes out. Like the board's assimilated each of

by capturing him in a ship, not by scooping him up off of a planet while his dad was looking in the other direction probably at Yvel. How does Seven not know this? This is a terrible bit of business. So Seven calls Janeway to the ass lab like right after and Janeway is pissed to be woken up.

Yeah, she is not finding a three a.m. fuck to give about this initially. I had just taken off my night pips. Now I had to put them back on. This better be good. And it's 3 a.m. So I was like, do I put the day pips on or I just get back on the night pips? Which is it? The truth is each step was on an unarmed transport when he was assimilated.

And why would his parents lie about this? Why would they lie about the circumstances of his assimilation? Why would they lie about the sewer pipe that runs through town, that they're calling a fertilization, no, or whatever? Why would they lie about how many years ago

he was assimilated? It's weird. It doesn't add up. And Jane was like, this sounds like a pain in the ass. Like they both agree that like seven's emotional about this and that like she may be more interested than she would be ordinarily, but running this down is a priority. And it seems like they're going to do it. Yeah, like Seven has to convince Janeway that Lukann lying about this must be for some untoward

purpose, but she just barely succeeds. And before the Voyager gets back to the planet, we have this scene between Lukann and his wife, whose name I did not write down, because I'm a bad person. And they're having a very diabolical sounding conversation. They're talking about, yeah, he was born to do the thing that he did.

He's not an ordinary child. We got to sacrifice him again. His return was the gift that we never thought we would get. We got to take advantage of this. his return was the gift that we never thought we would get. We gotta take advantage of this and the dad is like, maybe we don't, maybe we just, keep hanging out with him and you fall, it's like, I don't know, I mean like, has anybody really gotten to know the guy?

I've been four, 500 yards away from him for most of the time, so I don't, I wouldn't know. Like what's he like? I mean, maybe we could switch shifts at some point. Like, like maybe you could work out here for it after, dude. Has anybody thought to ask him how he is with a squeegee? Each abwax in completely oblivious and he gets a we need to talk here,

but there is very little talking to be done and a whole lot of Shooting him in the neck with some kind of drug. Yeah, pretty shocking turnabout for these parents who seemed super cool and chill the entire time It's wild have visceral a hold him down is in a moment like this, right? Yeah Yeah, I couldn't believe that they were able to overpower him though though. Like he's like so much taller than them and he's like, bored augmented. It would be great if he still had his assimilation nodules, right? Because then he'd be like, fat, fat. Yeah, now he's part of the no fat movement. And then he shoots the nodules out the window like between three and six hundred yards to where his brother is. Long distance fat. Hey each each each have something just hit this tree next to me. You know what that was? Did you throw something? The tree just turns into

a half machine, half tree. Hey that's just like the next Transformers movie where everything is a Transformers now. When they get into orbit, they get on FaceTime with each Hebs mom and dad, they're like getting readings like while they're talking to them that there is a ship like leaving the planet surface, traveling at high warp toward the Borg's hole. They're talking to these people about like, what did you do to him? And they're like, this is what he was always meant to do. He wants to do this.

And they scan the ship and each ship's unconscious on there. They're like, I don't think so. Here's the twist, Adam. The pathogen that was fucking up the ship that they found each have in all the other littlest borgs on, was from each have, it's like genetically engineered into his birdie.

And when borgs assimilate him, it fucks the borgs up. And his parents genetically modified him using the genetic modification technologies they developed for their plants to create an e-chab weapon and send it to the borgs. Do you think when the borgs went down to the planet, like they ate some of the vegetables and they're like hey three of eight. This cucumber tastes bad. This is really bad. I should have smelled it first. I got a very powerful sense of smell and...

Hey, hey, 1-14. Put down the broccoli. Trust me on this. You're not going to like what happens. Hey, I think the porridge aren't falling for eating the vegetables. The voyager is gonna go rescue each ab from this ship. That's basically headed straight for Borg space. And the Borg rescue sequence is really exciting. And like daring and dynamic, like they have to like beam each step out and beam a torpedo into the ship

that like is getting sucked into the Borg sphere. And then, you know, the Voyager has to warp away just at the right moment. I love the decision to compose the shot, not showing the entire sphere. Yeah. Like to show the relative size between the two in such a way where like you don't even

see the whole board ship until it explodes, I mean. I also just love the like dynamics of the board sphere wasn't even going for Voyager. It was going for the ship Echeb was on, but they're like, they're behind it so they're stuck in the same tractor field. Yeah. I love how they cut down to the planet surface

and Echeb's brother is like like, hey I heard a big boom. I heard something really loud. Is it the 4th of July? Like people said no fireworks. What is that? Hey, has anyone seen Echebs? Like he was supposed to be moving back in with us and I haven't seen him around all day. Hey my other boot has a hole in it. Like whoever needs to know that. I need some new boots. Maybe each of you know, grow out of his and I can, you know, help him as a hand me down.

So in six Bay, the doctor tells Janeway and seven about each The doctor tells Janeway and Seven about each ebbs being a weapon with one goal, releasing his pathogen onto the borgs, and killing him the way that he did the first time. Like, he's already done this. We know it's a great success as mission goes. I thought this was such a great payoff of a mystery that I didn't even really think of as being a mystery that I didn't even really think of as being a mystery that they were setting up. Yeah.

So they didn't need to synthesize the pathogen earlier when they had beatus, beatus in the vial in that same frame, right? Oh, yeah. They could have just milked each ebbed for that. So we left each ebbed alone in his quarters and went back later and were able to find kind of a lot of the pathogen in there Found a Nike shoebox full of pathogen

Under his desk Yeah, so I don't think we'll need to make it synthetically I think we'll need to make it synthetically. Seven finds each have in the ass lab, but he's looking at his own genetic sequence. And he actually kind of respects the choice that his parents made, like they like send me to kill all borgs

to preserve their way of life. Seven is on the other side of this issue. She's like, no, that's barbaric and horrible. And this is like a pretty familiar argument we've seen in Star Trek. Like, can you xenocyde the Borgs and feel good about it or not? What is the more horrifying realization that you've been genetically created to xenocyde in entire species or that you've been made to wear a onesie made of clothing scraps that look like they could be from a Will Smith music video.

Yeah. You know what I love about what he's wearing? Is all the colors seem like related to a Starfleet uniform without being a Starfleet uniform? Yeah. Yeah. Like, that looks like science officer blue in there. Bit like Wesley Crusher in that way. Yeah.

He's like the I'm a Virgo of Wesley Crusher. But... But... But... But... But maybe it was my destiny. Well, it looks like we're not getting rid of each-hip. No, he's staying on the ship,

but did you like this episode, Adam? You know, I made a easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like bread, and I don't like you. I just do. What's funny about this episode is that it really had an interesting question before it turned evil, which was like, parents, do they really matter? Ha ha ha ha. Before the big evil reveal of like, oh, these are evil parents. We don't

want them around. Like before that part, it really made me think like, where's each have going to be? And who would really be better to raise him here? Like, it's interesting how this episode took such a sharp turn before answering that question. Question I'm still interested in the answer to. Yeah. But that turn is so crazy and scary that I can't help but but respect it. I like the episode a whole lot. I did too. I thought it was strong and I think the strongest part was that similarity that seven draws between her own parents

and their irresponsibility. And before we know the true evil of each of parents, like the irresponsibility that they're showing toward the safety of their kid, like I thought that was great. And I know we've watched a lot of episodes before where we've been like, well, why isn't seven involved in this story? And why isn't she there to ask or answer questions like this? Right. It's just nice to get an episode where she's there because she's supposed to be there and she's asking the questions and answering the questions that we would have in these moments. So yeah, I liked it.

Totally. What about you? I feel like, you know, we're recording this like the next day after we recorded our episode from last week, Ashes to Ashes. And I thought that that was an episode that had a really interesting premise and kind of failed to connect the dots on some of the things that were most interesting about it, especially the like, when do you decide to move on from somebody that you think is gone forever? And what would it be like to learn that they're not gone forever? Yeah.

Being a theme that the Voyager crew would be uniquely interested in, and then the episode kind of like doesn't really take that up in a serious way. And... Interesting back-to-back here, huh? Yeah, so like this one being a way for us to explore Seffans' feelings about the danger that her parents put her in and, you know, taking on the role of being the guardian of these kids and then being, you know, pushed by everyone around her to, like, loosen Alicia Bunch and then finding that when she loosens the leash and he decides to go away. It's like her worst fear realized,

like even worse than her worst fear realized. Like they were planning to kill him the entire time. Not just be, you know, not as good and enriching an environment for him, but like the opposite, like it was so well done and so well written, you know, I think that the themes of the episode were really fully explored and it asked interesting questions and answered them.

And I really liked it. We've got a couple more kids to go through this with. Like I wonder if we'll actually realize the storyline as promised here initially with any of them. Like, I'm still very interested in the idea of what happens when we drop these kids off with their parents. Yeah.

If they aren't evil. What would it be like if their parents weren't evil? Hmm. What about me? Do I get to stay with my parents now that we all know they're evil or what? No chance they've modified my genome, right? Right? Hey, you want to know what're evil or what? No chance they've modified my genome, right? Right?

Hey, you want to know what's evil? Making me work shift after shift with holes in my boots. How about modifying the gene for smelling poo? Yeah. Alright, Ben, let's check our priority one messages. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplement on that.

supplement? supplement? supplement? Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben, our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. Okay, okay. And it's from our friend John Patchett Green

over at the investigators. Okay. Here's that message. Investigators is a graphic novel series about two alligators named Mango and Brash, who wear vests and solve crimes. Their seventh book is titled All Tied Up, spelled T-I-D-E, and has the Dapper detective searching for a lost cruise ship. If you know a slick

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and who has been real nice to us over the years, designed our trunks trunks. I think these books are really great. I think any kid in that age range and any FOD who wants to see some greatest gen references in print. We'll really enjoy this. So I highly encourage people to grab this book. Good stuff.

Investigatorsbooks.com. Investigators! Mount up. Brash and mango. Mango and brash. Our next priority one message is from a Whirl and it's to Josh, goes like this. Happy birthday to the most amazing guy you'd ever meet. Seriously, he's a nurse, a pilot, a perpetual optimist, and the best husband ever.

Happy is the birthdays, Josh! Onward and forward to maximum adventures. God, Josh sounds awesome. Josh sounds cool as hell. God damn it. A nurse and pilot? That's like a- How does Josh have the time?

Josh is like a superhero. I already won, Lizzie. And managed to say optimistic through all of that. You know what's great about being a nurse and a pilot? You can tend to the onboard bedpans. Mmm. Of a cross-country single-engine airplane flight. But not on your birthday.

Happy birthday, Josh. Happy birthday, Josh. Take the day off from tending to the onboard bedpans. Keep that rate in current. Our final priority one message is from Rebecca, and it is to Neil, Rochelle and Pierce. That message goes like this, thank you all for giving up your summer, for being amazing and for all the help. Also, super exciting to meet a couple of FODs in the wild.

Per se. I'm guessing Pierce isn't one yet, but just give him a couple years. I don't know what this one's about, but it sounds like a bunch of people gave up their entire summer to help Rebecca and that sounds like FOTs, you know. That's what FOTs do. They're a giving group. They give up their summers for a good cause. Yeah. Wow, well, if you'd like to support a good cause, like our show, one way you can do it is getting a prior to on message at maximumfun.org slash jump of triumph. You don't have to give up your own summer to do it.

It's just a 100 for a personal message and 200 for a commercial message. Yeah, we appreciate it. Oh, my God, why are you one living? Hey Adam. What's that, man? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I'm over here. I am too. I'm the Shimoda

I'm just tending to all this all the sewer waters. It's It started to get get to me now It's starting to get to me now. They asked me to see if you could stack up a slurry of brackish water and feces like jenga tiles and I don't understand why. Yeah, I mean, that's an easy one, right? You know, it's fun about that Shimoda as we conjured that Shimoda during the episode. Yeah, yeah.

Good stuff. Good. Good. Good. Well, Ben, our game of buttholes, will of the profits, was broken during our last episode. I got to the bottom of this with Craig Anderson.

Here's how technologically stupid I am. I was like, hey, Craig, what's going on? Like, were you mad at us about what happened with dinner in London and he's like, no, I just logged into the account and your credit card is no longer up to date. Cool. That's all. It was as technical as updating credit card information. Yeah, so

very bad for having even given the whiff of a suggestion that it was anybody's fault but my own, it was mine. Mine all along. And so yeah, we're're back in business though the board game is working Great I say we get this thing going what do you say Ben while I go over to the game of but holes The will of the caretaker why don't you tell us what the next episode is gonna be about? It's a season six episode 20, good shepherd. Janeway must tend to her flock. When she finds three misfit crew members, need some special attention.

We already have this episode. God, it seems like it. Just like a retread of that season one episode where two Valk has the people like jogging or around the ship. Oh yeah, let's follow up with those guys. Is that those guys? Ben, our runabout is currently on square 83.

That's the second row from the top. Four squares ahead. We've got a measure of a man episode. Oh boy. It's really the only thing we're in any danger of hitting. Okay. You're required to learn as you play, roll. All right, I've got the dying my hand here we go

Then I've rolled a six okay Which puts a sun square 89 nice It's a regular old episode about that that's apt because this is episode 489 of the greatest generation. How about that? Yeah, fun. Glad to have the game back. Next week should be a fun one in the meantime. Why don't you check out our other show, Greatest Trek. Comes out of refriening. We're in the middle of reviewing lower decks episodes right now. Having a ton of fun with that. I also, we haven't shouted this out on the show recently, which we've been remiss about,

but we are still raising money for the Entertainment Community Fund. As of this record, the writers and actors here in the US are still on strike against the AMPTP for fair working conditions in the entertainment business. And we really stand in solidarity with them. You can go to friendsofdisotoforlabor.com if you'd like to support that work.

This is a fund that just kind of helps people out financially if they're out of work because the shockingly greedy assholes that run AMPTP have forced this strike. Ben, I'm just checking on the amount raised so far. At the time of this recording, Friends of Disodo have raised $7,784

for who I believe are those most instrumental in creating the entertainment that we love and the source material for these shows that we make. Yeah. So thanks to everyone for throwing in on that. If you've got a P1 for any of our live shows on our tour that we're on right now, those funds are also going toward that total. So we really appreciate everybody that goes to GraceGenTour.com and gets a P1. And while you you're there get some tickets to a live show. We got a ton of fun shows coming up Really soon as of the release of this episode we are gearing up for our big East Coast run

We'll be in Boston on October 3rd Brooklyn the next night Philadelphia a couple nights after that and Washington DC the. The show is really crackling right now. I feel like it is a great live show and we'd love to see you out at them. Listen, we got a standing ovation in London. Yeah, that's that's something. They don't give standing ovation to anyone. That's what Chuck Bryant said. Like look, these people don't laugh and they don't give standing o's. They did both for us. Yeah, the show is their own face. We got to thank a few people. Of course, Wendy Pretty, the producer and editor of this program, really doing a ton of extra stuff during the tour to keep the shows

coming out on time, doing a great job of it. Speaking of people just standing in flowing sewer water, sweeping it away. That is really the audio equivalent of what she's been doing lately. Hey Wendy, this job sucks huh? We really appreciate her efforts. It's really the best. We also appreciate the efforts of Bill Tilly, the Card Daddy, running the social media accounts at greatest trek. We'd like to reach out to those accounts if you want to send something in for a future code 47. We have one of those coming right up and I'm looking forward to that.

Jack Materia made the music you're listening to now Adam Ragusea makes all the original music and the interstitial music for the show and has for quite a while. Check us out online, join a group of friends of the Soto, one of the many places on the internet that they gather and with that we will be back at you next time another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and episode of the greatest generation Voyager that uh really fucking slaps at the base. Can't wait to find out what you mean by that. Oh wait, does Tom Rullo play guitar or bass? Fuck, he plays guitar! Ha! Leave it in!

Whitney, I'm begging you! Cut that out! I'm just going to keep going down this tangent. Maximum fun. A worker-owned network of artist-owned shows supported directly by you.