The Greatest Generation - A Previa Dealership (S5E18)

Episode Date: March 8, 2017

When the Entrepreneur asplode, this one Sonny and Cher song keeps playing over and over again, and it’s giving Geordi a headache. The crew starts to become aware that there may in fact be a glitch in the Matrix, and the clock is ticking on coming up with a good escape plan. Why doesn’t the ship have any crumple zones? What’s the best way to ruin the film Undercover Brother? Does Riker have a little bit of palsy? It’s the episode that establishes Frasier as Canonical Trek.

Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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I'm Adam Pryanaka. Adam, I've gotten a couple of packages over the last couple of weeks and I'm I'm feeling frisky. I think I might open them. Let's have a little mail time. Okay. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47. Verify. It is code 47, sir. Starfleet emergency frequency.

Captions eyes only. Were these mailed to your bar as they typically are. Now, I will give up my address if you send an email to drunkshamota at gmail.com and don't seem weird. How do you screen for weird? I usually like make it more than one interaction before I show my hand. And what I've been asking people is like, what side of the country are you closest to?

Because I don't want to like get somebody stuck shipping something across the US. Yeah. Somebody was threatening to ship me something from Scotland. But I don't want to be the only person that gets anything shipped to them. So.

I think threats the right word in all cases. Yeah. So the first one I've got here is from DavidW. And it's a box. What's in the box? Oh cool. Okay, so there's a little letter in here. Dear Ben and by extension Adam, but since Ben's the one who responded my son dragged me into a store looking for Pokemon cards after a Halloween parade

And I came across these two fine TNG figures Well, I'd love to buy a priority on all of my discretionary income goes towards diapers and child sports league entry fees I hope that's not for the same kid. Yeah, basically all I'm left with each month is enough to buy two faded in-box action figures of two old badass doctors. Ooh, I tried to get a discount by hipping the cashier to this awesome new TNG podcast called the Greatest Generation but it just stared for an uncomfortable length of time. That'll never work.

They are a small token of my gratitude for the awesome work you can find gentlemen are doing. Thanks for making the drive home for more 40% less awful every week. Live long in Pocosby, David Dupin. 40% I'll take it. All right, so, oh man, this is great. I've got two Star Trek figures and one of them is for

low-fi bones from the first episode of Star Trek. The next generation. It's an admiral Leonard H. McCoy with the incredibly poorly done old man make up on him. The burlap sack of old age. And the other one is for Dr. Catherine Polaski. Yes! The Michael Officer. Doesn't it seem like they'd be great friends?

So yeah, they got similar vibes in a lot of ways. Oh and yeah Dr. Polasky comes with a purple tricorder, a purple laptop and some other purple hit-clask. Oh man this is fun stuff. Purple cocktail shaker? Yeah. What does McCoy come with? Oh, let's see. McCoy's got a tricorder and a hyposprae and a medical like medical bag, portable medical kit. Do you think he's performing medicine at his age? I think that's a bad idea. Oh yeah, come on.

His eyesight can't be any good. Thank you so much, David. He can't see through that burlap sack. I have one more package to open up here and I have a hunch based on the shape of the envelope that it may be something similar to which is to open. This one is from Laura. Laura C and this is just a Manila envelope with a suggestive silhouette to it. And indeed it is another action figure. Let's see, here's the enclosed letter. I might not read all of this because it's pretty long.

Dear Ben and Adam, please enjoy your Rom Yarlin. Whoa! I think it is fitting the Ben should have her as he steadfastly stuck to the Rom Yarlin name. Sure did. I went to my local junk antique shop one day and saw this exact packaging with a Mordak doll and I thought oh my god chaotic bro but I didn't buy it that day. A few weeks later I decided to go back and buy it for you guys but it was gone. I seriously couldn't believe anyone would buy it. Not two days later you guys opened a chaotic bro doll on your show. I was stunned. Fortunately, the store head is lovely,

Ramiarlin doll, so I got that for you. I'm dying to know if that fan bought your chaotic brodol from the store, meaning there's another huge nerd slash fan in Salem, Oregon. They coincident of it is amazing. Anyway, enjoy Ramiarlin Romulan pad and chaotic bro. Keep doing what you're doing. I love the show so much.

Signed Laura, your number two fan in Salem? Yes. Oh Laura, that's awesome. Is it okay that I call action figures dolls? Yes. Did you see anything? No sir, I didn't see you playing with your dolls again. Good!

I wonder if Laura came to our live show. We had some great viewers turn out for that one in Portland. Yeah, we should do. And so it doesn't surprise me that one of them might have bought up some action figures and sent them out. Damn, I have a little collection going at this point. If my wife ever comes up to my office and sees what's going on up here, I'm going to be in big trouble, Adam. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub.

You're going to be in big trouble, Adam. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub.

You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. You're going to catch you pulling a Francis and your giant bathtub. I could have anybody in the world! So it sounds like she does not go up to your private areas, is that right Ben? Uh, she has less reason to come up here on a regular basis than I do and um, and uh, it's a bit of a mess right now, so I tried to discourage it anyways. Do you have your Warf plate displayed? My Warf plate is not displayed, but that is only because I haven't ordered a commemorative plate mounting bracket yet. Yeah. And I've been meaning to do that.

Yeah. When you get a beat on one of those, let me know. That doesn't have to make the show, but I'm in the market for two plate holders myself. Oh, I'm sure that there's many ways to get all those things. Go to the franklinmit.com, probably. Wow, good prizes for you. I have three dolls richer now than I was before we started the show. I'm feeling great.

Bring in the total number of dolls to what? Four, because I've got the... You get LaWoxana, right? LaWoxana doll. That somebody brought to one of our lifetimes. That may have been also a Portland show gift. Maybe, no, maybe that was San Francisco. I can't remember.

I love that at the time these dolls came out, these were probably the least popular ones. And these are the ones that we covet the most. Oh man, do you know if I wonder if there's an argyle doll? I know that someone, you know sort of the way that that Bill Tilly hacks some of his dolls? Sure. I don't know if you've followed along with any of that.

Someone hacked a Argyle next-gen action figure and sold it on eBay and someone bought it for I think at great expense. I think it was one of our viewers too. That is not quite a natural Jaeger, but Jaeger nonetheless. It's a hacked Jaager is what it is. Yeah. Kit bashing. Yager by hook or by crook.

Yeah. Well, we'll take no yager bashing around here. No. Bless him. One thing I'm not going to come close to bashing is today's episode, one of my favorites of all time. Yeah, this is a good one. Season 5, episode 18, cause and effect.

The entrepreneur... Asplowed! What a cold open! My favorite way that television and movies begin stories is just by dropping you into it. Like, you just put into a situation, there's no ramp up or anything. And the opening shot of this episode is Leaky Nassil. And shit is bad. The bridge is dark, it's got that enterprise,

that yesterday's enterprise lighting going on and people are in a panic. Yeah, the cameras are all have cell phones set on top of them. So there's a lot of vibration being transmitted into the footage. And you know, it's just a series of desperate attempts to get the ship calmed down. I feel like the core ejection system really fucking fails when they need it the most, like almost every time. Why even have a core ejection system if it's not going to work? Yeah, I mean, there's like those vulvos where, you know, if they're in a collision they like shit the engine block out the bottom so that so that it doesn't impale the driver

or whatever. It's got those crumple zones, right? Where's the enterprise crumple zone? The enterprise needs to be re-engineered with some crumple zones. It needs to be engineered like a Previa. Good, safe, practical car. Oh, we get that to come like a mini-bass. So they go around the horn and everyone is triaging the situation. Everyone has a little bit to do. Data's playing piano as fast as possible. So they go around the horn and everyone is triaging the situation. Everyone has a little bit to do.

Data's playing piano as fast as possible. The starboard in the cell has sustained a direct impact. Rikers got his leg up. This is the bridge. All hands to emergency escape pods. Like at a station, trying to workshop a solution. Jorries in the background, complaining about his inability to eject.

Initiating emergency core shutdown. Row Laren says she's losing attitude control, which is something that she could say every episode, I feel like, it's sort of a personal admission versus a status report. We're losing attitude control. I feel like maybe in the script, they had Reichard turn and say, what else is new?

And then they were like, it's too joky. Like, not really on tone for what we're going for here, you know. And you get, I mean, I don't know that we've seen everyone at this level of panic all at once before. It is really bracing. And I don't know, like,

do you think that that fire on the right side of the bridge that you see was a real fire that they set or is that a comp? It is most definitely a comp. That is not a good look. Of all the things they're doing here, that's the weakest look, I think. It's not easy. I mean, so they must be shaking that shot in post, right?

Because mostly they're shaking. It looks a little bit sadder at night live, fire. You know how they just sort of set a frame of fire below the camera. It looks a little bit saddered in a live fire. You know how they just sort of like set a frame of fire below the camera. It's a little bit like that. Yeah. I don't know. It's not terrible. But then, you know, we do then cut to the exterior of the ship as blowed.

And it's great. It's like a Star Wars level ship explosion. It really is. Which is the one thing that Star Wars really has on Trek is. Yeah. Much better explosions consistently across the board. Right, because they usually just comp an explosion over a model in Star Trek, and this time you actually get bits and fragments. It really looks like they loaded up a model with some fireworks and did some damage. The Nissel flies in one direction, the saucer flies in another, it's great.

It's not like when they blew up the Yamato and what was that the second season. Like that looked like pretty standard Star Trek explosion. And this looks like a really sophisticated movie style explosion. It's great. They spared no expense on this explosion. The cold open is maybe a minute and a half. It's really fast. And it made me think during, like, God damn it, like, how scary is it to be a civilian on the ship at that moment? You go from nothing to dying so fast

and you have no information to go on. Right. What is it like? What's it like to be just a normal dude? What's it like to be Kackie's guy? Five couples engaged in romantic encounters. It's gotta be terrifying. Yeah, red shirt Kackie's guy's gotta be

three months in a chess game is not going well. Yeah, RedShirtCack, he's got to be... He's on the ship. He's on the ship, Boing Alley and his ball just like flies across four lanes. All the pins fall down. That doesn't count, guys. Call it a foul! So he come back from our title sequence and we're in a classic poker scene. We've got Riker, Warf, Data, and the Doctor. And Riker is speculating the data.

They kicked Jordy out of the game after his admission of cheating, right? Right. But unlike that admission, which Wurf seemed to not really care about that much, we come back and Wiker speculating that data could very easily be doing some shuffling tricks. And Wurf is like super aggro about this premise. He has a way bigger problem with this than he ever did about Jordi's see through glasses. It's weird, right? You never get an idea of what the true stakes are

of this game, either. Like if there's real scarves involved, then I could see being pretty upset, but they're just playing for chips. So I guess it's not worth getting super butt hurt about. Well maybe somebody is the bank and they have like a cardboard box full of scarves under the table and you like, if you need to like buy back in, you give them another scarf and they give you some chips. Beverly ends up bluffing the shit out of Riker and she says something like it's better to be lucky than good. Isn't that the truth?

I I feel that way every day is better to be better to be lucky than good. Yeah. Did I miss that? I Mean I totally agree. It is better to be lucky that good. Whoever said it. We're in complete agreement. Yeah This game is like, is going. The one thing that I did want to talk about in the scene was data. Like, after a warf is being admittedly an asshole to data, data, like, starts kind of othering warf. Jack still no help for the Klingon.

How hard it looks at him, like, really dude? What's that about? Why did Dada do that? Every time Dada gambles, I get the sense that he really enjoys it. Yeah. When he was at that fake casino in season two or three, like, he fucking loves playing Crap's. Yeah.

He loves being the dealer. That was, he was there with Warfan Riker in the Royal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he is, he's really embracing sort of the Royal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He is really embracing sort of the cooler, you know, that term for like the the Black Jack dealer that comes in cools off a table. Yeah. He's like really he's really subtly condescending. Yeah. Maybe not even that subtly. Yeah, so I guess the dock gets called away and she runs off to check in with Jordy and Six Bay. Jordy has had a pretty scary fall. He, I guess, like passed out in the engine room and like

nearly went over the edge down the warp shaft. Yeah, I mean, we've seen this set a number of times and it's just floor after floor of glass surrounding the warp core. And there's a pretty large gap and the railings not that high and the gap is pretty wide between the railing and the warp core. You could see that happening pretty easy. There are plentiful code violations going on and the architecture of engineering. But yeah, and like some Enten, like actually like had to grab him and keep him from slipping in. He would have been like the emperor. Now when you're building a warp call,

OSHA regulations indicate that your railing must be at least three feet high. We recommend using a tempered glass if you're using any kind of clear material for your flooring. Polycarbonate is even better because it doesn't shatter. Now you want to design your warp core ejection unit so that it works every time. Functionality of the warp core ejector should be the primary concern in designing any engineering section. I find the utopia of Planeisha brand especially good.

The interaction that they have in Six Bay is I think where the first days of who happens. They're like, wait, have you had this kind of thing happen before and George is like, I don't know. And then they both start going like, man, like maybe there's something to this. But they think nothing of it. The doctor goes and has like a real chill like winds down in her apartment. She's got like a glass of sherry.

She's doing a little light trimming of her orchids. She observes a sleeping dress formality, much like Diana Troy, like she ties a ribbon in her hair and puts on a nice dress. Yeah, I feel like the doctor's wig may have jumped the shark at some point and we didn't notice it. Yeah, it's especially trusty, isn't it? It's a real situation in this episode. There was some times when I was like looking at the way the bangs come down from the top of the head

and I was just like, holy mackerel, what the fuck has even going on here? I mean by saying that, I hope the implication is that she looks great because she does. She just looks unnecessarily put together, I think. Right. Yeah, who sleeps like that? I don't know how you can. Well, she can't because she lies down on the bed and there's these whispering voices. And she like gets up, she knocks over her sherry turns the

light on it's kind of the go-to freaky-dee key moment in in Star Trek I feel like is breaking voices in the bedroom yeah haven't they done this like 10 times now yeah it seems a little tropey right now. Are you a sherry guy? No, I've been enjoying calvados a little bit lately, but I've never found a sherry that I really took to. Yeah, I will use sherry for mixing. Yeah.

And I'm also not really like an evening before bed slash digestief drinker either, though many people swear by it. Yeah. Well, it's, you know, depends on, depends on how you, how you roll. My wife likes a digestief before dinner, which is like, I just look at her and I'm like, you're doing it backwards. You're not supposed to do the witch before dark, right? Isn't that how the saying goes?

Something like that. I think the next scene is like the morning McLaughlin group. If you want. It's just like a routine meeting and they're just going over some stuff about the area of space that they're exploring and then doctors like, hey, guess what? I heard voices in my room last night. And I thought nothing of it, but then a bunch of people also reported the same thing. So that's weird.

I can think of no other meeting or a group of people where you could say that and not be immediately put into a straight jacket, you know? They really take her contribution for fact right well if she doesn't do the scan and see that 10 other people reported it do you think she brings it up I probably wouldn't if she was like also people are disappearing it's not again come on Beverly enough enough there's something wrong with you this time, babe. It is most definitely not the universe.

I mean, like she has other, like, I think it is like remarkable that more than one person reported it, but they're like, well, there's nothing on the sensor logs, but maybe we were censoring the right stuff. So, we'll go ahead and take a peek at this issue. And they're about to wind the meeting down when they get hauled up to the bridge

and they come out and there's a big old nasty looking butthole right there in space in front of them. Now don't you tell me you don't remember me because I sure as heckfire remember you had a chance Ned Ryerson yeah, and the sensors seemed to indicate that it is a space-time but all Which is a type I don't think we've seen on this show before no did you notice that a nson row?

No. Did you notice that Ensen Rowe got a pretty slick hair upgrade? I don't know if I would call it an upgrade, Ben. You're not into it? I'm not a fan. She looks like a totally contemporary anime character. It's pretty tight. It's tight, Bob. I wonder if she went and got a haircut after the thing with Riker, The type of I wonder if she went and got a haircut after the thing with Riker as just a way to deal like a like a Cleansing like making a clean break kind of kind of emotional act Yeah, you know who Riker didn't talk to you after making out with Soren was row

Not the same huh, hmm not the same courtesy extended. He didn't go, didn't go get permission. I wish that wasn't ongoing thing. They just never picked that up again. Really, this is a show that can imply somebody changed their hair for emotional reasons but doesn't have to do it. So a lot of talking about our pod or or start track the next generation. Start track most certain issue. We're definitely gonna we're never gonna leave that hot potato unpicked up. There's a lot of shows that would like show a character go like cut their hair in an emotional fit, right? Yeah. Fuck that.

I fucking hate that trope. Yeah, pretty lame, pretty flimsy. I think they did that in that battle-stargo-actica reboot. Oh, geez. No way. Not in. That's not a perfect future, not if you ask me. No, deeply imperfect. Well, this is where we get to see the kind of full scope of what caused the enterprise to usblow, because we see a show-use class starship come out of this space butthole,

a show-use class starship come out of this space butthole and they're like they have like kind of a few moments to react and 36 seconds and I think Riker suggests blowing the shuttle bay you can press main shuttle bay the explosive reaction may blow us out of the way and Data suggests doing the tractor beam. I suggest we use the tractor beam to alter the other ships to tractor. They go with data's solution. I think it's over-swap. They try to push the the starship away and it glances off the starboard in a cell and that is the thing that causes the warp system to go into total meltdown The effect on the on the impact is fucking awesome too like like all around great effects in this episode. It really gives you a sense of what the structures are made out of. Like if the Nacell is a sandwich, it's like the middle of that Vienna finger is almost made out of glass.

So when it's compressed like the outer Section seems more metal and the intersection seems more glass and there's like a real shattering explosion explosion and The effect is amazing. It's about as again like it's as good as it gets on this show and Sadly, I did some research on this episode, Ben, because I found it so significant. Call 911! Call 911! Like they built a special model for just the NSEL,

because they knew they were gonna have to punch in so close to it, like it's super detailed and great. And it pays off because it makes it feel really big and really like and really like Yeah, really like momentous when it goes Yeah, and the ship that emerges from the butthole is actually the reliant model that's been kit-bashed Oh really it is rolled rolled it in parts. Yeah tell the people what kit bashing is because I don't think that that's a totally

Wide-spread terminology Yeah. Tell the people what kit bashing is. Because I don't think that that's a totally widespread terminology. Kit bashing is when a person who builds a model of something, you'll buy a model for a particular thing, but you wanna turn it into something else by adding different parts to it, or removing parts from it. So in this case, they took an existing model,

that reliant model, and they added little bits and boobs to it. To distinguish it from the original reliant. I think in the biz, those bits and boobs are called gree-blees. I did not know that. Yeah, I learned that in the process of getting models made for my documentary that I'm working on. That's right

Yeah, um, so not only are the enterprise model effects great so to our The unnamed at this point reliant model emerging from the butthole. Right. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. So this explosion takes place and Sonny and Cher kick up their song and we are back in Ok Camper's Rise and Shine and don't forget your booties cut this call out there and this is a good time to To sort of describe how we're Entering each of these versions. So this is a Jonathan Freak's directed episode and you can tell with every

With every restart of the plot we are getting different shot compositions of the same scene. So this poker scene is shot differently. I think he's moving the line, right? Like the 180 degree line. He like, I think he moves it 90 degrees each time. Yeah, and the establishing shots are always different. That we've now seen two bridge scenes where everything is blocked. Everything is blocked the same, but everything is shot differently.

Right. And, I mean, we're gonna get three more cracks at this before the end of the episode, and it's all done in this technique. I think it's really interesting that this is a Freak's episode, because Freak's episodes are typically where we notice interesting shot composition. And what you're given when you're a director, if you're him, is sort of a top five. Like you really don't get to do this on TV shows, is to come up with five different ways to do a scene and keep them all.

Right. Yeah. I did not spot the director credit when I started watching this and I about halfway through is like I fucking bet this is a freaks and then there's a shot like later on where there's just a an unmistakable freaks camera angle the got shot right yeah yeah when they're having a later McLaughlin group the camera stays up high for like a big portion of it It's like classic freaks

Yeah, he the Freaks God shot is classic and he also does super long takes with a moving camera in a way that I don't feel like a lot of the other Directors do He's he's really I don't know if this is his second or his third time directing an episode, but the look is really confident. Yeah. Yeah, he should be called Jonathan Quarone. So this is the poker scene where the deja vu really starts coming on thick. And Orph even has like a fun, clinging on phrase for the deja vu. He calls it nip pa.

Yeah. And I think that the doctor is the one that starts calling the what the cards are going to be as they get flipped over Deal data But no one has bet I forget the bed just deal 10 7 Weave 9 Jack

fourth Duce six This is highly improbable Four, doose, six. This is highly improbable. This is one of those episodes where you get the chills and number of times, and this is one of those moments where the floor just sort of falls out of the room and something magical is happening, and it's freaking everyone out. Right. She goes and checks in with Jority

and they're both like really Feeling like yeah like we've had this conversation before and they start doing So they start like looking into his medical records and it's kind of a dead end right like he doesn't have any Record of having had this but they both remember having talked about it Do you ever get deja vu? Sure. Does it give you a good feeling or a bad feeling when you get it? It's very troubling I think, because it, you know, it's like forgetting an actor's name right at the beginning of a movie that you're going to be sitting through and you're like, what does that fucker's name it's like all you can think about for the rest of the film yeah I hate that feeling I mean I hate that feeling

you're describing the reason I ask is because I watched the movie undercover brother in the theaters and this was one Dave Chappelle was not super duper famous though he is now but I'd seen his comedy specials and I really liked him and he has a small part in the film. And I was like, oh, what's that guy's name? I've seen him on Comedy Central a few times. Totally ruined the movie for me, Adam. Oh, no.

Yeah. You got really preoccupied. Yeah. The reason I ask is because everyone treats the feeling pretty neutrally. Like they're not panicking about the sensation. I used to feel really bad when I got J.A.V. too and then a buddy in mind a long time ago said that it means that you're on the right track and that always kind of gave me comfort about that feeling. I don't

know why. Like, if you're feeling like you've been somewhere before, it must mean you're doing something right. Like, it's where you're supposed to be. Hmm. I like that. Somebody told me once that it's your brain moving too fast and processing something twice because reality hasn't caught up and that made me feel great about myself Yeah super smart Jordy and Beverly are Sort of mutually

Experiencing this feeling in a more powerful way than they did in the last version right I think they I think they have to leave it at that the doctor has her little wine down and goes to her room and I think she gets like because she broke the glass of sherry last time She gets like weirded out and puts it in a different place. I might be jumping at no I think this is not the one where she moves her sherry, but she's breaking her Sherry consistently every time. And this time she's like freaked out enough that she runs up to the ready room

and wants to talk to Picard about what's going on. And Picard is in the action uniform, Sans Jacket. He doesn't wear a sleeping jacket. I think it's interesting that this is taking place in the ready room and not his quarters. Right. Like he's having like a late night hang in the office. Yeah. I wonder if that's because they redressed Picard's quarters as Beverly's and they couldn't flip the line for that. That's interesting. Yeah. They've got to have like two or three standard quarters that they just set up as.

Yeah. But this is like a level of intimacy that we haven't seen in quite a while between Bevin Picard. Like we know them to be close. They've had very close moments. But like they're sitting very close on the couch. And Picard gives her a dip-Aunt Adel's sleeping remedy, which is, as far as we know, contains absolutely no drugs.

Right. He's-he has also been feeling deja vu. He's like reading a book, and he's kind of feeling like he's read this section before or even though he knows he hasn't read the book before. And when we get to the McLaughlin group, the next morning, it's like cutting in at the middle of them discussing these weird voices that Cresher was hearing in her room.

And they come up with a more complete plan on how to look into this. but just as they're formalizing the plan, they get word that there's a butthole outside. Don't you say you don't remember me because I sure as heckfire remember you. Well, Ned Ryerson. BOOM! So they got to run out to the bridge. A butthole is knocking on the glass.

Why ain't it to be lit in? Hey, hey. Her. What's going on? That's the butthole's voice. Yeah. So we get a replay of the disaster and the part that gets me every time is Troy going,

we've got to get out of here. We have to get out of here now. Yeah, I get the chills every time she says that. And it's fun because like it goes from like Picard's reaction to her the first time is like what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, he really looks at her like I cannot cannot believe that you just voice that opinion. And why does she say it? Like, we never get any sort of storyline out of her for what she's experiencing throughout the episode.

So is she getting a read, is her bed is aoid mind getting a read off of what's happening? And that's telling her that they need to leave or is she somehow getting a read off of what's happening and that's telling her that they need to leave or is she somehow getting a read off of the butthole or is it just her personally being scared and wanting Picard to get them out of there. Let me let me try some head cannon on. Tell me tell me if you think it fits. Okay. What they eventually discover is that Jordi is picking up like temporal after images in his visor, hence headache, and the voices that Dr. Krasher is hearing is literally all of the voices on the

ship and it's like time shifted. So maybe Troy is getting like an emotional time shift that she's picking up on in this moment. Oh man, that makes perfect sense. That's great canon. That's pretty good head canon, right? God, we do this all the time. I wish they just forked one line into the episode to give us one of those.

It just bulks up the story so much more with just a little bit of effort. Well, yeah, the... It makes it no less scary not to know that because when she turns to him and says it, ugh, it feels bad. So they once again try the suggestions are thrown out, decompress the subtle shuttle bay or use the tractor beam. You know what I thought in this moment, Adam, is why not both? It could do both. Like, wouldn't that be like doubling down on two pretty effective astounding strategies? Another thought that I had was they are very specific about the time span needed to come

up with a solution. It's 36 seconds. And that is not real time. No. Like the point of impact as I think 15 or 16 seconds later, why didn't they just say 16 seconds? Boy, I think it is pretty hard to know how something is gonna cut Yeah, and I also think that that's I mean there's some

There's some elasticity to the perception of time. Yeah, and I think it's fair that I don't know to me. It's it's I'm never's fair that, I don't know, to me it's, I'm never bothered by that. And 15 seconds sounds like so much less time than 30, too. It sounds like not enough time to come up with a plan and implement it. So, TV time makes sense that it's 30 and real time, it's 15.

That reads for me, I guess. Like the opposite example is like a show like 24 that's all about how real time it is, and it's so fucking stupid so much of the time, the way timing works on that show. Yeah. Like not to say it's not a fun show to watch or whatever, but it's like the time stuff is

like without a doubt the dumbest part of that program, and there's a lot of dumb parts parts that program. Yeah, it's true Except when Edgar dies. That was oh yeah, that was a emotional banger for me personally. We all remember where we were when Edgar died We get a different explosion this time for that which longer nut's that look this easy. How many more? You'll have to boil it. We get a different explosion this time. We're further away from the ship, and we see it often the distance explode. Now, when you shoot an explosion effect like this,

oftentimes you will set up several camera positions and get it from a bunch of different angles because it's expensive to do. But to me it didn't look like the same explosion because some of the parts didn't go in the same places. That's because it wasn't. They filmed three different model explosions for this scene. Wow. They built and destroyed three of them. Amazing. Yeah. I mean, when you're when you're producing a season of television, I think this is one of the spikes in production cost, like when you're a line producer, like, this is a heavy and you gotta know that going in.

They get a ton of value out of it though, I think. Yeah. You need a great explosion there. Mm-hmm. Well, we're back in the poker scene. Then put your little hand in my... They do a great thing compositionally, which is they get super tight on Riker and Beverly

talking to each other. And Riker's got a little bit of lazy eye going like, yeah, do you think he has like little bells palsy or something going? No, I don't think so, but like there's, it's a little bit pod people like, like, like something so heavy is happening to them and so magical that it just sort of renders them emotionless and that blank stare

when they're staring at each other is just creepy as hell. And what it does is it removes any sense of comedy or ham and cheese to the scene in a really effective way. I feel like you could fuck this up pretty easily and read it as, you know, like you insert some second season synth keyboard to it and all of a sudden it's stupid. But instead it's like that discordant sound effect action. You get the close-up shots of all of them. It really works. It's creepy.

So the doctor gets on the phone and calls Nersog out and she's like, let me guess, Jordi is down there. And Nersog out was like, no, oh, there he is. Just walked in. So this is like, like, the doctor is now sufficiently creeped out to call Picard down to 6 Bay. And he comes down and she's like, listen, there's there's this situation happening where Jordy Spiser is picking up temporal something, some things. Everybody on the ship is feeling deja vu. Maybe you have two and he's like, oh, fuck, some things. Everybody on the ship is feeling deja vu,

maybe you have two and he's like, oh fuck, I totally have, what's up? And they've found like a measurable scientific, way of assessing what's going on, which is that their, like Jordi's visor is picking up a real phenomenon. Yeah, the way it's described is sort of It's sort of like

on old televisions when When you wouldn't get the signal for the channel right and you'd get like sort of double vision right He's seeing he's seeing like repeated imagery echo effects. I think they call them like repeated imagery, echo effects, I think they call them. Or like when you're driving through the hills in between two big cities, and you've got the hip hop station on, but you get like country, like peppered in there every turn,

you get a little snippet of Garth Brooks, and you're like, no. I wanna hear about my trap queen. I don't care about your pickup truck getting stolen. You get some scramble stations. Yeah. So this is like, I think they're like onto the situation a lot earlier this time around.

And they move up the time of their meeting. Right. Well, like the doctor goes back and she like does not get into sleepy time mode in her quarters. And when the voices start, she's ready for it. She whips out her marant's kit and starts rolling tape on it. She runs down to engineering and data and jr. She's like, you guys got to hear this tape.

And it is, it's like an audio is a pruder film back into the lip. Yeah, it's a little bit like that scene in, in the fugitive when they're like, like, what was that belting in the background? And they like narrow, narrow down what phone booth he called from. Or in sneakers when they play back the audio from the trunk and they can tell from the spaces and the pavement, what bridge they took.

Yeah. Data does a great parlor trick here, which is they play back the tape and it is just, it's incomprehensible. It's just voice on top of voice on top of sound effect. And data is able to- A little bit like our show. Yeah, it's just one host interrupting the other host

and then a bunch of dick jokes. And data is able to like look to the sky and unscramble them. And he sort of describes like thousands of voices and their, the ship's voices. And then we throw to commercial with all the goose bumps. I am the cutest of all. You will assist us. I am the cutest of all.

You are the ball. We come back and it's pretty evident that data and Jordi worked through the night and figured out what is going on. And they've got a PowerPoint up on the screen in the McLaughlin group. Is your wand. We think we're stuck in a specific fragment in time

and that we've been repeating that same fragment over and over again. And it's showing the ship as a red dot, like traveling through time and then getting like ricocheted back. But they're like, how do we get out of this? How long have we been in it? And they're like, we have no idea. That's a terrifying thought. Yeah, that they could have been in there indefinitely.

Right. They could have been in there for days, hours, years. Yeah. So they come up with a plan like if they're caught in this thing, they got to be able to talk to the next version of themselves. How do they do it? Well, they sort of talk to the viewer and describe their plan in such a way as like doing a message in a bottle type scenario. They need to sneak a message back through data,

data is sort of the best conduit for a message sending in this way. They're like, well, what do we tell ourselves? No one really knows except that it has to be short. It's got to be a single word. Well, the other thing is like they don't know when the loop repeats, so they don't know what point in time, you know, like they don't know what the cause of all this is, so they don't have any idea what the message would be based on the fact that there's no clear Beginning or end Yeah, and and they don't know when to send it either so data is gotta be at a at a state of readiness where He's always ready to send whatever message needs to be sent whenever they decide what that message is

Yeah, so we get a we get a scalp flap scene next. Yeah. Well, the closest steps we've ever been on the inside of data's dome. Yeah, always fun to get a little flap. They rig him up with a little cortical stimulator on his brains, and then they fit him for sort of a big wristwatch, like a G-Shock, Casio,

that he fits around his forearm with a little keypad on it. One of those ones that they mark it to mountain climbers that's got like an altimeter and a compass built in. It's waterproof to six feet. It's always a disappointing amount of waterproofness to watches. Yeah, I mean like I feel like if you've got the if you've got the like set of features that you're gonna want for mountain climbing, it's not gonna be as waterproof as a watch that you get for diving. Why don't they measure that in leagues either? Oh yeah. People don't use leagues anymore, do they? It's a system of measures that's sadly been left

by the wayside along with the qubit, the hand. The stone. The stone. The stone. I think they still use the stone in the UK, right? Yeah. Like when fighters weigh in, they're like, he's 24 stone.

Yeah. When I did my study abroad in Ireland, there was always like weight loss TV shows on where somebody would be like, like on the Thalouse three stone before my wedding, in it. I find as I've grown older, I've seen some stone accumulation, I've seen some love stones, Ben. Oh yeah. I like it. Yeah. I would flatter myself that I have stones but I'm really just a coward at heart.

So they fit in with the watch and sticking back on duty and it's sort of left open ended. Like you're just gonna know what to do when the time comes, hopefully. Good luck! They gotta run up to the bridge because word of a space butthole has been transmitted over the public address system on the entrepreneur. Don't say you don't remember me because I hear a tech fire. Remember you, it's me, Matt! Fryerson! Get up there. They're doing their routine of not saving the ship and they try the tractor beam. It doesn't work. They're like about to go critical and data turns and starts frantically tapping on the buttons on his watch. He just writes 808.5.

He shows it to Riker upside down. Riker does double finger guns. Riker chuckles as the ship explodes. All that effort for a boobs joke. The number flips over on the radio clock. Sunny and Cher strike up their song. Back in the poker game and this time, data is dealing out all three. All three.

We described the card scene that happened before as being like the airs out of the room, the floors dropped out. We're getting super close-ups for creep. This ends up being like a David Blaine style, style trick here. They're really freaked out by this because they are positive they know what the next card is. I thought it was really amazing that they had Harrison Ford over in the corner in this in this version of the scene And he just told everybody to get the fuck out of his house at the end

Data supposed to be dealing cards, but instead he's like ramming ice picks through his hands Pen and teller whisper to each other and then Pen tries to kind of obliquely describe how the trick works. Yeah. And Data just shakes his head now. Not Lady from Buffy the Vampire Slayer gives him a trophy. I like that show. That's a pretty fun show.

Yeah. Big fan. So, data is dealin' threes. Instead of the cards that everyone is guessing. Threes all around, and then everyone gets dealt to three of a kind after. Yeah, who got the best three of a kind? I think it's data's queens, right?

The data gets queens. Yeah. Yeah. And they just sort of stare a gap at this before Beverly goes back off to the Six Bay. Yeah. And they like arrive at similar conclusions with scanning Jorodies, Jordy's visor this time. And instead of calling Picard down to Six Bay this time, she marches right up to his office. And there's a great scene here where he's just sitting in the ready room, like one foot up on the couch, looking through this book.

And he like pages back and forth a couple times. And then there's just this look on his face, like, fuck is wrong with this book and he like pages back and forth a couple times and then there's just this look on his face like fuck is wrong with this book. I love the idea that like he's at work right? Like is this is this the equivalent of like walking into some it's cubicle and they're like reading a sports website? Like what's he doing? They've got the racing form and there's circling ponies that they're gonna put money on. Yeah, like there's no book equivalent to all tabbing your way to the work

you're supposed to be doing in this instance. Like he's very transparently reading. Well, he is the boss. Yeah, that's true. He can do whatever he wants. They get up to the bridge and I guess like they've worked out that the ship is in big trouble and they've also got the strange phenomenon that three keeps showing up. Anything data touches turns to three's.

He's the man with the mightest, mightest, mightest touch. And they're like, maybe that means level three diagnostic, which is a nice idea. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But they also have some tape that the doctor captured in our quarters. And they've managed to isolate the parts that are germane to their discussion. And I'm like, this is like Adam Ragusea level audio shit where like they've, they've cut all 999 voices out of the tape and they just have Picard yelling. I'm not even sure the goose could do this.

This is next level. I really give editing. I'm not even sure the goose could do this. This is next level. I feel like you're editing. I feel like you're editing. If you gave the goose the same kind of computer that they have on the enterprise, you could do that shit. The goose can do anything. I will never think he can't.

He's a miracle worker. Yeah, he truly is. So this is puzzling, but it's pretty inconclusive, because there's nothing about the number three that provides any direct course of action for them to pursue, and they know they're fucked, but they don't really know, I don't think that they really know about the time loop here, right? They have different set of new information. Yeah. Yeah. They aren't as on the rails as they have been in previous versions of this timeline. Yeah. So they head out to get a load of the space by the whole

fill corners. And I guess like, Wurf was in this McLaughlin group this time. So it's Ensign Ro that calls them up. They get out there and they're like, you know, all the same things happen, the hell was out, the Soyuz class ship is coming straight for them and Raker suggests Shuttle Bay, decompression, data suggests the tractor beam. Banking's always the wolf.

And did you tractor beam? And there's a great shot of data like looking up at the rank insignia on ranker's neck. Like it's a close up to close up rack. Tractor beam will not be successful. I'm decompressing the main shuttle, and he like taps out some commands on his thing. We cut to the exterior of the shuttle bay opening, and we see it like blow a ton of air out.

We see a bunch of privy as parked inside of it. Yeah, it's like a privy adealership. Yeah. We are clear of the distortion. This is the first and only time we see the ship's main shuttle bay in use. Yeah. That's the trivia for that shot. They never show this shot again and they built a model specifically for it. Like the roll top desk doors. Yeah. The shuttles inside. We never get a shot like this again. It's cool. It's an amazing number of onetime use modeling for this episode.

Right, because this is a franchise that's not afraid to recycle shots in future films. That's just it. It's amazing to me that they were willing to do this, where they couldn't get value out of any of these shots at any other time. It's Good stuff. The shuttle bay decompresses, it pushes the ship out of the way. The other ship flies by and the lights come back on. And they're like, hey, cool.

That worked. And they get on FaceTime with the other ship after resetting their clock. I guess they've been in the loop for a couple of weeks. They do that thing where if you fly a long distance and they have to go into airplane mode and then as soon as you land, you undo airplane mode on your phone

and then the time changes. They check to see about their time change and it turns out they've been in the loop 17 days. Yeah. Which is crazy. They get on FaceTime and it is on the other side of the FaceTime. It's a Frazier in a Kirk movie costume.

Hey baby, I hear the blues a call in, toss salads and scrambled eggs. I love those costumes. Yeah, they're so good. They are beautiful. That's the best uniform, right? It's obviously the best uniform. It looks great when it's on tight.

It looks great when it's sort of like undone and flapped over. The only thing that I always wonder. Let's get that turtle neck. Yeah. The one thing I wonder about that uniform is they've got the black piping on the flap right? Yeah, but then it just stops when it gets to the neck. Why doesn't it go all the way around the neck?

I don't know. It looks so hot though. Like I cannot imagine wearing that all day. Fuck no. To be honest, Frazier looks pretty cheese to these, that he's got to wear this thing. And he's got kind of like a warfling the way he sits in his captain's chair. Yeah. And Picard is like, do you know what time it is? Frazier introduces himself as Captain Bateson. And he's like, of course I know what time it is. And then Picard goes, brother, I'm about to blow your mind.

And he's like, Lillith has two fingers. He's like, she's like, boy. Flavor Flav comes out with his big medallion and he says, I wear the clock so you can know the time. Oh man. Isn't it crazy that Lilith and Frazier exist in this universe?

Ha ha ha. It's pretty wild, Adam. And that riker fucked one of them? Does that mean that the Frazier program is canonical trek? I think that's what it means. I think that's what it means. That's all we can all we can assume. This is this is such a fun moment that we only get a glimpse of before it happens, but I feel like like you could write an entire series of like novelizations of what goes on with the crew of the Bozeman now that they're stuck like 80 years into their own future.

Yeah, it has got to be amazing. That story is so rich too. Like, it does he look up his family? Does he get to still be a captain? Do they give him another commission? Right, because he probably doesn't know, his ass from his elbow on a galaxy-class starship, right? What do they do with this ship? Like, is it a museum?

I don't know, man. Or does it go to that scrapyard? That that annoying guy lived at? Well, that's another thing we talked about. It's like I want to I want a series that just takes place in the scrapyard. Totally. Did you notice who was Who was standing next toatson on the bridge? She looked a little familiar to me but I did not put it together. Well, she's not supposed to be familiar but she is supposed to evoke someone. They tried to cast Kristi Alley to reprise her role as Savvick for the scene.

And she did not sign on the line that was dotted. And so I don't know if she is explicitly supposed to be a recast Savvick, but I know that she sort of has Savvick vibes. Savvicks allowed to look like a lot of people. Yeah. God. You're not kidding So yeah that would have been fun if they had gotten her to but man that those are two big canonical

Stars on one bridge, you know, yeah, I think we're lucky to get Frazier So that's the that's the end of the episode they have this big juicy and And big US ends to it. Great episode. Did you like this episode? Loved it. It might be recency bias but I don't know if I can't say this isn't my favorite episode. So far let's say. Okay. It's fucking great. It's definitely on my mountain. It's on your it's on your mountain. I love it. It is mountain worthy for sure.

We've got to really come up with a name for that mountain. Would you give this a ranking? Is this also on your mountain or is it just a great episode? I could see it being a top fiber. At some point I hope of you or out there is keeping track of our mountain because I surely am not. Yeah, there's only so much we can keeping track of our mountain because I surely am not. Yeah, there's only so much we can keep track of.

Yeah, I know. Oh, man, they don't make them like this anymore. They surely do not add them. It's a great one. And, you know, I think that like this maybe like there's, I know that a good majority of our viewers are familiar with the television series. I would say that if you don't actually watch the show, this would be a pretty fun one to just give a watch. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Like I think it'll stand up on its own two feet

and it's also just like a real fun hour of television. Yeah, I agree. I mean, a lot of people flip shit to Brandon Braga, you know, who has and will go on to write more and more episodes of this show and other Star Trek series. It's hard to argue that this isn't the moment where the wave broke for him and the high water mark was achieved. This isn't tough to beat. Tough to beat. Yeah, I agree with that.

I also would say like, I kind of get the sense and I'm maybe totally wrong on this. Like I kind of make some of this stuff up as I go along, but I kind of get the sense that Brandon Braga is responsible for a lot of the time-travely shit that happens Yeah, from this point forward, which is my least favorite thing in Star Trek Yeah, and I think that this is an example of time travel done really well. Yeah Yeah agreed Do we have any messages coming in from space and time Ben? I believe we do Adam

I think we should probably check in on that. All right Priority one message from star fleet coming in on secured channel Need a supplement on top of the month stop a month Yes extra the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship Our first priority one message is a commercial message. And here it goes. Hello fair viewers, I hope none of you are the age of young Wesley Crusher. But I imagine some of you might be parents, aunts, uncles, or friends of teenagers. If so, I'd love it if you'd check out my young adult novel, The Forest Spell, with 95%

fewer dick jokes and 80% more galvanting in the woods. The Forest Spell is age-appropriate, humor and adventure that's sure to delight young audiences until they reach the age of consent for this fine pod. Ben and Adam thanks for the walls. Search for the forest spell on Amazon. Man I love that. I love that too. It seems like when we were growing up YA wasn't a genre available to us. It seems like there's a lot better things for people to read at that age than there was when we were growing up. I always like, I think I skipped from hearty boys

like straight into the firm or whatever. You know, like there was no, there was no in between. Adam, my thoughts for, I thought for a moment you were gonna say, you skipped from Hardy Boys into the Firmada. Are you familiar with that book? No, I'm not. It's a book by... Would that have made a better joke?

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Yeah, I think so, but I think much more appropriate would have been the forest spell. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm disappointed about its relative lack of dick jokes, but it's age appropriate, so I understand. I love that our viewers are doing productive things with their time. I like that they see our viewers as people who would appreciate their hard work. I'm totally into the idea of cross-pollinization.

Yeah, and I hope this kind of thing gets rewarded. Yeah, yeah, go check it out. It's the Forest Spell at son Amazon.com. I've heard of that website. It's a famous website. It's one of the most famous websites. Ben, we have another message this time of a personal variety. It is from your husband Matt in West Virginia, which you know because you live in the same house.

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gonna end. So same like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. Ben? What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda Ben? I find yourself a drunk Shimoda, Ben? I found one. I found one.

I have kind of a split decision here. I wrote down two and I'm having a tough time picking. Maybe you should go first because maybe you picked one of these and I can pick the other. That makes sense. You can have a Shimoda. I do.

I do this time, Ben. It's another Prop Shimoda. And much like the hotel television remote of the last episode or a couple episodes ago, there is a chair in the background of engineering that looks like it's a metal, like a metal banana with a back on it. I don't know how this seat works. It's like a bike seat, but it's made out of aluminum. It is a most uncomfortable chair. I don't think I've ever seen anyone sit in it like where there are people sitting in Shimoda Corner and chairs, they look like the padded desk chair that you see in a lot of places. But this chair is terrible. I don't know why it's there. Maybe that's why I've already heard

himself sitting in a bad chair. He fell out of the chair and he almost took a trip down to the bottom of the warp core. Oh, that chair is no good. Right? What the hell is that? That thing looks like halfway between a chair and like a mangled crutch. It looks like a crutch, doesn't it? You can't sit on crutches. No. Yeah. They're not designed for that. Yeah, that's my Shimoda.

Well Adam, you did not select the Shimoda that I Either of the Shimoda that I selected so I think I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and award double Shimotas do it so My first one is going to be card Because every time and I thought that there was excellent because every time, and I thought that there was excellent shot continuity on this, because we see it a bunch of times. Every time Crusher goes to the ready room and checks in on the captain on the late night, over in front of his like book that

he keeps under glass, I think it's the Shakespeare book. There are two empties and a full, what looks like whiskey. Yeah. But card is, Picard is getting hammered. You know it's not T. Earl Greyhut because it doesn't come in the glass with the black sort of rim handle. Yeah, it doesn't have a handle on it. It's definitely neat whiskey.

Yeah. Unmistakable. And he kind of allows them to gather in a way that I feel like I totally get. I'm making glasses around my place all the time. This is like, you know, my wife is out with her friends for the evening, so I'm going to order a pizza, get a six pack, and I'm going to watch a film adaptation of a John Clancy novel. Yeah. He's just got a sink full of dishes in his ready room.

Yeah, she comes home. There's just empties all over the fucking place. What a slap. My second Shimoda is Dr. Kresher. Now, we've made a lot of comments about the Barbicide that she keeps in Six Bay. Yeah. Did not know that she also kept a bowl full of Barbicide in her quarters next to her bed.

What is that? Like, it, it's like, She sets a book on it. It's like, what the fuck is that doing there? It's like the set decorator was like, a terrarium would be really cool to have by the bed, and then like, well, we don't have any sand or shells. So I guess we're going Windex.

She just wants to have that nice chlorine smell wafed over her as she sleeps. Yeah, like you'd think the ammonia would wake you up and not put you down, but maybe that's why she's slugging back all that sherry. He's... She needs it to...

She needs it to wind down at the end of the day. Of all the doctors we've seen on the show, I would have expected country doctor Catherine Polaski to be the drink before bed type, but nope, it's Beverly Crusher. Yeah. Well, those are great Shimotives, Ben. I'm glad you offered them both.

Even though it skews our ongoing chart. Okay. I don't think it skews the chart. Yeah, well, that's for someone else to do the math on. I've also differently, I feel like not had a Shimoda a couple of times, right? Yeah, you're back feeling Shimodos, aren't you? Why does a Boseman have that huge gun on it? God, I don't know.

Is that one of the things that the reliant doesn't have, or did the reliant have the gun? I don't think the reliant rolled in, look like an M1 Abrams tank. It's really cool to see, it's most definitely a Honda Del Sol type starship, but the Pontiac Fiero to the modern Del Sol, like it's really angular and fun. This is in the way that the Galaxy Class is based on the Constitution class.

The Dell Soul class is definitely based on the Soyuz class. It's got that wailin utani knife block sensibility that the Nostromo had. It's got pointy bits, which makes it somehow more contemporary to see that the Nostromo had. Like, it's got pointy bits, which makes it, it makes it somehow more contemporary to see that kind of slop. The smooth line seems like the ship of the future. Yeah, I dug it. Yeah.

You only get, you get like two seconds at the end of them flying side by side. Would've been nice to get a little bit more of that, like a beauty shot outro. Yeah, it's just weird because the camera focuses on that fucking gun for like a solid three, four seconds. It's like, where are they going into battle? What's going on?

Yeah, I guess the time frame, the Boseman time frame is pre-rath of con. Right. That's another thing about it. So I guess... Oh, yeah, I guess they're not on great terms with the Klingons in that era. Yeah, yeah, so they need that uparmher chip. Interesting.

They need an uparmher chip and a captain with a slouch. And they've got both. Yeah, Frazier doesn't take guff from any klingons. What do we have coming up on the next episode then? The next episode is season five episode 19, the first duty caught between loyalty to his friends and the need to tell the truth. Wesley becomes involved in a cover-up when his Starfleet Academy squadron suffers a deadly collision. Do you remember this episode, Adam? Do you remember this episode? It's fun how they bring back Will Wheaton every six or eight episodes for a guest star role. They don't do that for anyone else. Well, they did it for Rom Yarlin.

Yeah, I guess so. But only those couple of times. It doesn't. I think that that's over, right? I think the way I met that though was like a Krumann. Yeah. Yeah, it's a, it's nice, it's, it's, it's nice to have a character that can check in and have a lot of backstory. And I feel like they always do a nice job of letting him have developed as a character in the meantime. Yeah, and he's also, Will Wheaton's also so much of a better actor than he was in the

first couple of seasons that it's almost like a redemption story as acting goes for him. Is it a better actor or is it that the show is now better written and it seems better by comparison? I think that's true as much if not more than what I said. Well, we don't have any vetoes, so whether or not you like, we are watching it. All right. Fine.

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