The Greatest Generation - A Sarlacc Type of Mouth (DS9 S3E18)

Episode Date: December 24, 2018

When Garak is in the midst of soundly defeating Bashir in a round of Birthday Chess, Quark introduces a scary man to the doctor. But when that man goes rummaging in Bashir’s personal space, that space turns out to be more personal than he originally bargained for. How many boba teas did Altovar drink during production? What distinguishes good hand loaf from bad? What does Colm Meaney think of stuffed crust pizza? What are some tennis ball brands? It’s the episode that establishes the existence of a terrible roadside attraction called Mount Bitmore. Come see us live on tour with Greatest Gen Khan🎉🎉🎉! Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Prennicka. How you doing, Adam? Ben, I, uh, if it sounds like I'm a little bit happier than I usually am, a little less burdened than normal. It's because you and I discussed last night. I finally deleted my Facebook. Hey, congrats.

It's gone. Hey, that's a big step. Yeah. Yeah. I feel better now that it's done. You and I came to the decision that it wasn't for us anymore. Facebook, the many awesome groups that have formed around this show, those are for our viewers. They aren't for us. We don't need to be there.

It started to feel weird for us to interact there in some ways. Weird but not the bad definition of we're just not healthy. I also think that getting off of Facebook in general is a good thing that most people should do. Yeah, as a business move, like as a... Right, as a protest against what a garbage corporation Facebook is. Absolutely, yeah. And all of their products are.

But yeah, like I, it's one of those things, right? Where like I love the existence of those communities and I would be really sad to see those communities dissipate for some reason, like the company that runs the message board that they're on is a piece of garbage that is a threat to the democracy that we have previously enjoyed. That would be sad. It's weird that like a hundred times out of a hundred, these good ideas turn sour and get manipulated and perverted into bad things. And I mean that description in the macro sense

and not the micro sense of our nice fenced-in garden that exists there. That is actually good. If we, like looking at the fact that there's a large number of friends of Disotto out there, numbering in the thousands to tens of thousands range, if we decided to like whip them up and weaponize them into something, you know.

Yeah. Which would be bad. We would never think to do that. We would be garbage people for making a decision like that. We only whip them into a froth about going to our live shows. Yeah. That's all we want to do. into a froth about going to our live shows. Yeah, that's how we like to do. That's the one way we exploit the existence

of our listenership. I'm truly grateful that so many people have found like good and peace and funny there. I'm not inditing any of those people or any of those groups to be clear. Right, yeah. It's, but it's a personal decision. I'm proud ofiting any of those people or any of those groups to be clear. Right. Yeah. It's a personal decision. I'm proud of you for making it. And we're recording a bit early in the day for a greatest gen.

Sure. We're actually recording in the normal friendly fire time slot. Yeah! So if we just like suddenly start talking about a war movie, I hope people people well forgive us cut to John Roderick still sleeping I'm drinking a smoothie instead of a Glass of tequila. Did you make that smoothie? I did yeah about that What do you get in there? I heard of the blender. What's your breakfast smoothie? This is one banana, splash at OJ, and some frozen, tropical fruits,

and a couple of strawberries. Oh, look at you. That sounds pretty nice. I would need some protein in that to get me to lunch though. I lived a smoothie life for a while, and I realized very early on that the fruit smoothie is something that burns very fast in my body.

Do you do a powder or do you like crack a raw egg and be your smoothie? Oh, I mean, either if I have them available. Yeah, or both. How much is too much protein for one smoothie? I'll just drink the raw eggs while the smoothie is mixing together. Save some time. I love a cocktail with the egg white consistency though.

So I wonder if that's a thing that happens in your smoothie. That must be pleasant. I bet it would smooth it out. Yeah. You wouldn't have that thing where you could kind of like talk yourself into the idea that maybe the alcohol is killing any pathogens in the rug. I've never thought about it that way at all. I've never even considered the idea that there was anything dangerous in a cocktail made with egg whites.

Yeah, I think it used to be illegal in California. I don't know if it still is or if it's just unenforced, but very early in my being interested in cocktails, I had a cocktail with some egg white in it and the bartender was like, you know, I actually shouldn't be making this for you. And now in California, they just have to serve that cocktail in a glass that's labeled the contents of this container may kill you or cause cancer. Yeah, the, the, the egg in this glass

is known by the state of California. Yeah. You're true California, because you can, you can, you can say that warning from memory. I could pull that specific weird label that's on everything. I think that was one of those ballot initiatives that was voted on by the public. A lot of the things that have to have that label on them, there's not actually that much basis in science

for the warnings on some of that stuff. Cause like what the state of California considers to be carcinogenic is like a way lower threshold than what, you know, the federal government considers to be carcinogenic. Oh, interesting. I did not know that. That's a half remembered thing I heard maybe one time.

Please don't take that as the truth. That's what we do on this show. We just exchange half-remembered bullshit between ourselves. Oh, I mean, it feels good to be cast in some bond with you. I feel like it's been a weirdly long time since we've recorded a greatest game.

Yeah, I think that's true. We've taken a little bit of a break. We thought we had enough runway to get through December. Turns out. You do not. Yeah. Turns out like my calendar was updated with two episodes that we had yet to record. So yeah, fuck me, right?

You were, uh, you were brimming with undue confidence. And, uh, I thought I would tell you a little, I mean not to belabor this mayor in any longer than it already is but I thought I would tell you a moment that I was brimming with undue confidence that I've gotten from this show. I was sitting public doing bits at him. BITS BITS BITS BITS BITS BITS BITS BITS BITS BITS I was doing BITS. Bad bit moment. Bad bit moment. You should really have saved that for your private time. Ben, instead of being out in the world doing this. Yeah, I mean I'm trying out that always doing bits segment has really has really captured the the

imagination of the public. Something we didn't really realize until we started playing the the music on stage at live shows. Yeah, whenever whenever we're feeling like we need a pop in an emergency kind of way, that's all we need to do is hit that button There's now an unofficial Twitter account of bits that we do is there you see that no There's an unofficial Twitter account. I can't remember what the handle is, but I'm sure I'm sure People could find it if they look because everything we say needs to be catalogued and organized. Yeah, yeah duh, I would say that the core of this segment, which I think we got away from a little bit the last time

we did it, and mostly I got away from the last time we did it. The core of this segment is that we think that we're funny to everyone, and we're really just funny to each other. Right. And we've ruined each other for polite society. So that is, I had perfectly true. I had an example a couple of days ago

that I've been cringing about every time I thought about ever since. I went down to the grocery store near my house and I was getting some provisions. I was going to cook some dinner and I was going to cook something that involved black beans. So I was in the canned goods aisle looking at the different options for beans. And a number of the bean cans were on sale.

And reading this tag aloud I thought was gonna like get everybody in the aisle cracking up with me. I go, hey look at this, these beans are normally $1.49 and they're on sale for $1.49. It fits, fits, fits. And there's like two other people in the aisle with me that ignore me. Do not look up, do not stop what they're doing, and I literally just like grabbed a can of beans. I'm laughing. And literally they've printed out a sale tag

that said zero percent off. It actually said that. Is this something that you took a picture of? I wish I had. I was, I had to get out of there, man. Man, I would have set my basket on the ground and just walked out of the store. I basically, I came as close to doing that as I could while still getting the grocery sign.

Ooh, that's pretty rough. Yeah, I mean, there's that performative volume that a person talks at when they're doing a bit too, like when they're trying to gather people into your shot. Yeah, like you guys all know me, I'm quite funny. Yeah, terrible. I'm sorry to hear that, man. That is a bit that didn't work, but I have a story of a bit that really did.

One of the rare bits in the wild. All right. It worked for everyone. You and I have been traveling a lot recently for work, and I've tagged a few trips onto my calendar that had been for play, and I was in the airport a couple of days ago. And I've been using clear. Clear is like upgraded pre-check that you use your fingers for. Right.

Yeah, it's a way that you pay a corporation $100 to have biometric data on you, but then you don't have to pull your ID out of your wallet when you're at the airport. Seems like a great trade, right? Clear not a sponsor of Greatest Gen. This is not branded content, certainly. So I go through one of my more recent trips, I went through the clear, which is the checkpoint

part, and then I went into the lounge. Also, you know, now that I've I've I've started telling this story, I realize how bougie, the stravel experiences, like, having gone through clear and then going to the lounge. But here's where it gets funny. I step up to the to the check-in desk at the lounge and they also use clear to check you in. And so I stick my fingers up on the finger reader and boy oh boy, my fingers are just not reading at this reader and I'm like rolling them

across the thing again and again. And the guys starting to get a little frustrated by the situation and I was like, boy, must have left my good fingers at the TSA. All I do is it. It's it, it's it. And it just like, it blows him back in his chair. The person who like stands by the door heard it.

They start laughing. The person next to the person I told that to starts laughing, it is like, I just, I blew their heads off. All of them, three headshots. Oh, bang, bang, bang. I think that if you wear a uniform and sit at a desk in an airport and are representative of an airline,

like such a high percentage of your interactions are super negative because people are angry that their flight got delayed or whatever, that like any amount of just like frivolity or niceness is, you know, they eat that shit up. Yeah, like the idea that someone could be jovial in that interaction, which is what I brought to it certainly. Ben, I even got the guy behind me, just the civilian behind me started laughing and that's

what made me feel the best is because it wasn't just a bit on tips situation it was yeah I got that guy too that's great yeah well I have one more on my little my little buck slip that I write these down on do you want do you want one more bit before we sandwich my sandwich my bit Ben make it the meat and this bit sandwich. Occasionally, I will do a bit on my wife. And just don't. Don't even try and predictable. Because sometimes, like, I don't even do bits on your wife.

It is totally unpredictable whether she'll think I'm hilarious or I'm a fucking idiot. It's unpredictable in a way that I find tantalizing. I love to make her laugh. She has like one of the great laughs. It's why we remain. Yeah, but also like you know there's an inevitable percentage of bits that fall super flat or make her angry at me. And the other day I was driving around doing some errands and we just changed what car we have

because the car that we had before was a loner and we really needed something that was actually ours and wasn't the most horrible thing in the entire world. Ben, can I just jump in here to say that you can tell that you're a real carman for the terminology you used for buying a new car? Because no one ever describes it as changing what car we have. You're a delight. I mean, I love the idea of you guys walking onto a dealership lot and being like, hello,

one change of cars, please. We'll give you this one, you give us that one. Deal? Anyways, I was driving around doing some errands and I come to, I had this weird day where I saw no fewer than three pretty rugged car accidents. Oh. And like one of them was pretty like lightweight. It was just like merging, you know, on a city street and two cars made some contact. The second, I was like, I was like in the left turn lane at a four-way intersection

and watched a Tesla and like a Honda Civic with primer on one of the door panels, just do a full head-on collision. Oh! When the Civic was trying to turn left across traffic and the Tesla was powering through. Oh no. And then later in the day, I watch the exact model

and make of car that we have get t-boned by a bright green Mustang convertible in an intersection that I go through all the time. So I was like, I was holy shit, and was sitting there, and had like a clear vantage point So I just snapped a pic of the like banged up fiximally of our car. It was like same color same everything And I said I just send it in a text to my wife and say I Messed the car up frowny face emoji. Oh, that do it. It's it's it's

Whoa Boy was you mad at me. Mad at me for 48 hours. Wow. Yeah. I love that. Do you have any regrets? I hope you don't. That is. How often do you get an opportunity like that? Is the question I ask, but also it's like an opportunity to stick your dick in a blender, you know? Ben, let's gotta go on your mount bit more, I think. That's a top four bit right there. Wow. And damn, the consequences also, like you see a shot

like that, you gotta take it. Here's the one way where that, I could see being legitimately not cool is if there was ever a question about you being injured. Like that's not a fun thing to play with. I mean, I didn't imply, I thought that the tone of my text was sufficiently cheeky that the implication would never be drawn that I was hurt, but yeah, she was real rattled by it nonetheless. Wow.

Yeah, great one. Great bit. Yeah. I fully endorse that bit. Sometimes doing a bit on the wife works. Sometimes it does not. Wow. That's quality content for the Marin Open pin.

What do you say? What do you say? That's a big heap in Marin. Yeah. That's value right there. Value for your show watching dollar, I'd say. I think this is our... this episode comes out on December 24th, so we got to reward the people for, you know, sneaking away to take a very long poop and listen to our show. This one goes out to all our bathroom listeners. Luxury-eating while their

legs fall asleep. Yeah. All right, well, one episode that definitely keeps you on your toes is one deep space nine season three episode eighteen, distant voices. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course not. This is another episode that opens with a Bashir and Garrick lunch hang. And it seems like they have a standing weekly hang, right? I feel like it's frequency has changed. It used to be more frequent, I thought, like a regular breakfast.

But yeah, I think I'm with you on this. One thing I really admire about you is that you establish routine hangs with friends of yours. Like you have a really good sense of like how to practice friendship. I have like friends that I haven't seen in months and never call on the phone. And you actually like make the effort.

And I like that about you. Well, I mean, let's make one thing perfectly clear. I'm not calling anyone on the phone. Nor am I answering said phone. If someone else were to call. Yeah, but you do like, you know, oh, we'll go get a taco once a week and have a hang. Yeah, I like that.

That's good, good friendship hygiene. It works. I guess I bring this up because Garrick is giving Bashira birthday presents. It's like not actually his actual birthday, but it's close enough. Yeah, the mistake Garrick makes though is that he gives the gift that he would like to receive himself instead of thinking of the recipient. Right. Yeah, but you also know that Garrick is always thinking of things recipient. Right. Yeah, but but you also know that

Garrick is always thinking of things on many levels. So what like he might be playing some he's playing in the first day chess instead of birthday checkers. Yeah, I think that might be the case. There's like a oblique reference to Bishir's preference for a mystery of a certain kind versus a mystery of the Cardassian kind, which is the Hollis Wheat Program the Garek has given him. It would be really fun to see Bishir do like a Dixon Hill mystery that we've actually seen before. Like this is like a product that Picard is, like everybody with an English accent

in the Trek universe loves Dixon Hill for some reason. That is a great idea. Like, rebuild all of those sets, bring back all of those bit actor parts. Yeah, wouldn't that be great? Hey, I'd be into that big time. I don't know who I am. I'm Cyrus Redblack.

Well, they're interrupted very rudely by your buddy, Quark, who's got a... He's trying to broker a sale of biomimetic gel for a creepy alien named Altovar. Altovar is... has got a particularly scary type of loaf, a type of loaf that just says villain. Yeah, Altevar sort of has a Sarlac type of mouth, I think, like he's got teeth around teeth. It's a scary look, you know, and he's asking for this biomimetic gel, but she are kind of politely explains that not only is the sale of biomimetic gel like a very carefully controlled and regulated scenario, but even trying

to obtain it illegally is considered a felony. And Cork's like, I know, I'm doing a felony. He's also doing a felony. Why is Cork not arrested right then in there and Altavar? He's clearly under duress though. Like he doesn't want to be asking this question and I think Bashir can tell. Bashir also like on the heels of this conversation with Garrick is a little pissy about his birthday and so he he's like, he kind of, what? Altavar, like when the question gets asked,

and I think that pisses Altavar off enough to have sort of become the inciting incident for what's to come. Yeah, yeah. There's a little bit of that thing where they try to go back to their conversation and then Quirk is like, hey, why aren't you eating at my place? Why are you eating over here?

Because the food sucks, they're Quirk. Get it together. He says he changed the menu. They haven't even tried the new menu. You're going to have to ask Morn what his thoughts are on that menu. I bet he's the guy liked it the way it was. Yeah, it's Kim. He's never gonna shut up. You know, Morin just has very low standards.

He eats at that hungry heifer all the time. You think he's still filled with darts? I don't think we ever saw those darts being removed from his body. Yeah, if you ever turned around, you would just see that his back is riddled with them. Maybe that's what makes him such a good lover, is that his skin is naturally desensitized, so as to make it last longer. I think we're learning more and more about him. He doesn't need to use his and hers, Klydelly.

You don't want to get those confused, Ben, that's for sure. No, it would be bad. Well, we go to title and when we come back, Bashir is wandering back to Six Bay, which apparently closes and shuts down when he's not there. I thought it was kind of surprising. That's the medical facility on Deep Space 9. What if he's on vacation and a defiant mission? Is there literally nothing going on in Six Bay?

If you break your arm, do you just have to wait? He should really have one of those paper signs with the little clock in the hands that you You stick like we'll be back in 15. Yeah, yeah That means that on the floor and as he enters there's El Tava are tossing the The medicine cabinet in in Bashir's office. What are you doing here? What are you doing here when What are you doing here? When did you get here? I'm sad.

And when El Tavaar turns around, do you remember the inner planetary rubber bandmen episode where the guys have lightning hands? Yes. El Tavaar kind of has that, but he, instead of doing it to chest, he does it to head. Yeah, you don't wanna be the head

in the middle of that lightning. Yeah. Ben Altevar is legitimately scary. Like, and as a creature design, I feel like Star Trek really did something great with him as a lethian. He's our first and I think only lethian will ever see. But boy, he's terrifying.

He's big and he shoots lightning out of his hands. I would love to see Lethians be a going concern. Yeah. Yeah, they look like a lot of work though. That's the trouble. I did really feel bad for this actor. Just like the loaf is so intense and so compromising of mouth. Yeah. That I was trying to imagine like what he does when they break for lunch. They like throwing in an out burger and a blender and let him suck it through a straw or something. He's definitely a a boba tea straw alien at crafty. That's for sure. You get any any any boba at the bottom of that smoothie? Ben, that's what you got to do. Bubba.

I always call it Bubba, because it's very irritating for people. Yeah, it is really irritating. Just really clangs, huh? Yeah, it's like a redneck tea. Yeah, what do you think is at the bottom of redneck bobbity? Just, what are those chewing tobacco pouches?

Oh, dip? Yeah, this is just dip down there. Yeah, pretty gross. Second dip through a straw? Mr. Ah. Bashir comes to in his tossed infirmary and nothing's working. The computer's all flickering, the screens are flickering. His combatge doesn't work. This begins a long period of time in this episode

where the lighting becomes very gloomy and moody. And I really like that about it. Like the tone of this episode is a shift away from what we normally get in a way that I appreciated. I had a question for you Ben, a production question. Yeah. Which is when you shoot monitors, it is important to calibrate those monitors

against the frame rate of the camera you're shooting. Otherwise you'll get either strobing or like a run, right? Like a line that runs up the screen very slowly. That'll happen sometimes if that's miscalibrated. But it made me wonder like if you're making lights flicker, how mindful you need to be about the flicker versus the frame rate. And it almost looks like a couple of these flickers are in post instead of in scene. Did you get that feeling?

I was interesting. I didn't notice it as that, but I wouldn't be surprised if you have to be a little judicious with what you're doing practically, but you can always add some black frames in later. But they did a good job with that in this episode. Yeah, it's nice. But Sherra is real creeped out because Deep Space Nine is basically empty. And he, you know, starts kind of wandering around the

primedod, goes into quarks. And I really like this scene because you can kind of hear the lithium raging around somewhere in the deep in the bar, but you don't ever see him. You do see quark like cowering behind, just like totally terrified. And this is the first hint that we get that like for sure it is not alone, but something is very strange about the station because quirk does not really seem to be himself, despite how smashy, you know, like he's not reacting in a way that kind of reads his quirk for this scenario.

Nor is it like the version of quirk we find when someone interacts with the prophets. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not just the infirmary that has been tossed. The Quark's bar set is in the process of being tossed as Quark cowers. Like, it's full on barstools being thrown. Yeah. At some point, Bashir walks up to a replicator and there's just like, a stream of urine coming out of it, and he sticks his hand and smells it. What are you doing, Bashir? It looks especially pungent because it's so yellow.

Yeah, that's somebody who is very dehydrated and is also eating a bunch of asparagus, just ripping a piss into the replicator. That's someone who's enjoyed a couple of broad drinking vitamins. Yeah, yeah. We've talked about those on the show, right? Yeah, broad, not a sponsor of the show, but really should be. You discovered this, it's a pill that you take as you drink your second drink of an evening

in which you forecast that you will partake quite a bit of alcohol and it's supposed to relieve your hangover the next day. It works. What they don't say on the package is that it also makes your urine smell like toxic waste the next day Fair trade Is what I'll say about that I'm getting over a cold and I've been doing those like vitamin C packets that you like rip open and dump into a glass of water. Yeah, and

Same effect. Hmm, which I never before, but ever since I've had those broads, now emergency also makes my pee smell like toxic waste. If we were to realize that broad is doing permanent damage to us, I don't think that would discourage us from their use. It's like smoking in the 50s, like, broad has like a guy in a lab coat in their TV commercial. Like, I prefer Brode, the safest drinking vitamin. Hey Brode, get at us. We'll do some ads for you. Yeah, this is going great, right?

This ad is over. I'll let him just beep out the brand name. Oh yeah. Yeah, cause I don't want them to get it for free before they pay us. They know who they are. There's only one drinking vitamin on the market you can buy on Amazon. Go to Kotlin. Go to Kotlin. So, he also runs into Garek.

I think, uh, what is he in like the security, security room when he runs it again? Yeah. Yeah. Who seems equally as panicky about the circumstances. Garrick is an interesting character to be, to be running into here because of all the people on the station. We know that he's like very capable when the station is not acting according to spec. We saw that in the lockdown episode where the station was gonna kill everybody

to put down a bejure and riot. It perceived to be happening. And they're talking about where is everybody, like what situation could possibly have led to the station being for all intents and purposes empty and as badly damaged as it is. And that's a big puzzle, right? Because like the doctor is, it's like 28 days later,

you know, he's just waking up and discovering that he is in a nightmare world. And he's not getting like super satisfying answers from Derek as to like what might have happened. Like Derek is puzzling through it just at the same level that he is. There have been times when circumstances similar to these have happened on the Enterprise D. Circumstances similar to these have happened on the enterprise D I'm thinking specifically of like the 110101010 episode and maybe the one where

The crew devolves What is it about that circumstance on that ship that is more scary than what is happening on DS9. I couldn't really put my finger on it. Not to skip to the end here, but we know this is a fantasy and isn't real, but there's a squeaky kind of skin-crawly nightmare feeling on the ship that just doesn't seem to be present on the station. I don't know why that is. I wonder if it's because of what we know about the station's proximity to civilization, you know, Bay George is right there.

It's not out in a super remote part of space where nobody can easily get to it. That is a great answer. It's where people go to. That's a texido quality answer right there Ben. Like, you were right on it with that. He and Garrick split up, but Bashir then finds a McLaughlin group. He's your wife.

Already taking place. And it's Dax Odo. Mr. Bogus. O'Brien. I am Chief Miles Edwin O'Brien. And Kira and this is another scenario that seems very strange like it's not there's no chain of command in this McLoughland group. Kira does not appear to be in charge nor does anybody else. We should mention at this point that

Bashir has been salt and peppered a little bit up to this point and is now looking full on Ronnie Coxie. I don't know what you're talking about. In this scene. Yeah. Like he's he's been aging. He's been aging. I think they actually used the exact same prosthetics that they used on deforestation Kelly in the first episode of TNG. Yeah, they went to the science fiction museum and closed that exhibit. Hold it off of the rack. It is an unfortunately bad age makeup. One of those ones where I wanted it to be an HD for perverse. See how bad it really is, reasons.

You've got silver reason, you want my Adam scattered all over space, boy. It's kind of a gap girls thing happening because that old age makeup is only making the Lethian look that much better just in comparison, right? Yeah, that's a great point. And he keeps running into the Lethian. Like he's on the elevator at one point and the Lethian like reaches its hands in

and he like kicks the guy's fingers. It's legitimately terrifying and I feel like Handloaf is something that Trek has failed at previously. But this Handloaf is good and scary. The Handloaf you frequently see on Star Trek looks like dog penis. And they really do a much, much better job this time around.

And they really do a much, much better job this time around. Yeah, it's a remarkably dog-dickless hand loaf situation. The idea they come up with during this McLaughlin group, and we should be clear, like there's a fair amount of info. There's a McLaughlin group-esque amount of fighting happening at this McLaughlin Group. Like, Papu can and is yelling over Eleanor Clifft. John McLaughlin himself is struggling to keep control of the conversation. It's really going off right now. If the Obama administration were like, powerful, I'm just thinking, maybe I would. I'm supposed to go 100,000 people in. It's Julian, there you are.

Where have you been? Yeah, it's the hardest talk, really. It doesn't seem like a bipartisan agreement is fomenting in this situation. Everybody's kind of pointing fingers at everybody else. Like, the chief has pissed at Odo that security didn't prevent whatever happened. Odo has pissed at the chief for not having fixed everything.

And this is when Bushier starts to kind of figure out that this is a weird situation. And, you know, he's like, he asked the computer to scan everybody in the room for, for anomalies, which I love the way he phrases this because the computer can be forgiven for not telling him anything, like, if he's the only one that's actually in the room, he's going to get back a result that, you know, reveals nothing to him, but he doesn't realize that yet. Yeah. Because, like, what we come to understand is that this is like a solipsistic nightmare. that you know reveals nothing to him, but he doesn't realize that yet. Yeah.

Because like what we come to understand is that this is like a solipsistic nightmare. These are all parts of his personality being represented to him and he's in a coma and every character represents an element of his personality. I love that the characters kind of resent this. This implication right away. What the hell's going on here?

Especially O'Brien. O'Brien's like, give me that tricorder and then like holds it like a slice of pizza in front of himself. Yeah, he holds it like the pizza with the cheese in the crust. Yeah. That's a great call. That's perfect direction right there.

Yeah, they're like, call him. You know the pizza that just came out this year, that has cheese in the crust? And he's like, yeah, it's fucking spectacular. Hahaha. The plan is let's all go to the cargo bay, where O'Brien can find some gear in there to get the station going again.

That's when the revelation comes out that they're all members, they're all figments of his imagination. And the station is not, is not the station, it's his mind. It's like a, it's a construct in his head that represents his brain and the sabotage is about the cascade of damage that is being caused by the lecyon. Like the the the war-flightening that went into Bashir's head is having a lingering effect and continuing to degrade his brain while he's in this coma. We get one of the classic Don't You See style monologues here.

If I could only go through every teleplay that's ever been written on Star Trek and find and remove Don't you see as a line of dialogue You have found 700 examples. There's transcripts of all these scripts online I'd be I'd be interested to see what the number of don't you see in Star Trek is. That's a definite thing. I think Deep Space Nine might have a higher instance of those than TNG, right? I think so. It's a little more explaining. Well, he is on this jag, the Lethian grabs Jedzea and just like hauls her through a door, which begins a series of character

disappearances that become like increasingly freaky. Like this is weirdly like the least freaky of them, right? Yeah, DAX really gets King Konged by the Lethian too. Like all you hear is her screaming and she's like kicking out of his arms. Yeah, and then he throws a barrel at Bashir. The thinking is that all of these characters represent different Bashir behaviors. So, uh, Dax, who was taken away, represented like a confidence and adventure, sense of being for Bichier, O'Brien, representing doubt or disbelief. Kira is clearly a Greshan.

Odo would be suspicion or fear. And the group together, it comes up with the hypothesis that the Lethian is representing the telepathic damage done to Peshira's mind and the station would be the representation of that mind. So he's gotten his sense of adventure taken away from him. And then like it's one of those trick cuts where suddenly he's playing racquetball with Derek. Yeah. I feel like the rules of this scenario are like fairly dreamlike in a way that I like.

You know, at one point he like breaks his hip, but then a couple scenes later that's not a factor in a way that, you know, that would happen in a dream, you know, like, oh, I broke my hip and then like, to dream beats later, you're like, you know, running after a unicorn or something. Hey man. This isn't the sort of show where we share our dream beats with each other This is you'll notice in the scene Ben and we've talked about it a bunch before how difficult it is to shoot racket sports There are a number of swings that don't show a ball. Like there's out of frame tennis ball happening here

and I think that's very intentional. Yeah, you never see a rally, right? It's like, like Bashir will get one over the net and then Garrick hits it back right into the net because it's, unless you're, you know, pretty talented tennis player, acting and playing tennis at the same time or, you know, it's like walking and chewing

gum. You just don't want to do it. Right. So, Garyx advices that they get to ops, because that's like naturally the place to begin and you sort of repair of the station. If the station represents your mind, you want to go to the, you want to go to the control center to get back control of it. And like any horror movie, they decided to split up. And the share is creeping through some hallways on his way to ops. In a way that doesn't make sense, right? Like, but I guess works in dream logic. Like you would never go into the habitat ring to get to ops.

Yeah. But that's where he is when he runs into Cisco. And like at this point, he knows that everybody is just a representation of something to him. So Cisco is doctoring and for sure is like, oh, I get it. You're my professionalism. Big whoops, Cisco, not impressed. And then Cisco gets King Konged through the wall. Yeah, and this is raising the stakes, right? Because it's just he's standing next to a bulkhead and gets pulled right through it.

Yeah. It's not like he gets hauled through a doorway. It's like the, you know, the Lethian can move through walls now. Yeah, and the truth of the circumstance after having a couple of examples of this is that the Lethians just towing with him, like he can take pieces off the table whenever he wants to. Fasers don't work on him because Bichir tries shooting him and Altavar makes the threats, the threat to him that he's going to just take him apart and torture his mind and then kill him at the end of it And then we get a pretty fun red eyes to commercial Yeah those

Those red contact lenses on altivar are terrifying looking good After the commercial bishir is almost totally enveloped in a burlap sack Treat like a lady up in a burlap sack. You treat her like a lady. She'll always bring her home. Total burlap coverage. Yeah. Kira and Odo are dead or our Odo's dying, right?

He's like half puddled on the floor in a fun way. And so the logic of this is that the pusher is running out of time. Yeah, they know this because they see a monitor of him of this is that Pashir is running out of time. Yeah, they know this because they see a monitor of him in route to ops that's showing his diminishing vitals, not looking good. I'm dying.

I'm gonna tell you that just by looking at you. Not looking good. Yeah, there's that one point where O'Brien gets the comms back, but it's just just receiving and he's just hearing people talk about him in the room where he's in the coma. Did you get the sense that they could like ever turn back to that or was that the only glimpse they got of what was going on in the outside world? Boy, I don't know.

It sure never seems like it's on the table. It would have been nice, right? Check in again. See what it says. Yeah, it might provide some information useful to be sure at this point. But yeah, he is not taking the most direct root tops because he finds himself in quirks

looking at a dying, even older version of himself on a slab and people are betting on different ways he might die or whatever Quark is serving as the bookie. Yeah, you can bet on anything here, which organ fails first? Yeah, it's good to see Quark back in good spirits, right? Yeah, yeah, back where he belongs. Yeah, except for not for long because dead Bishir on the slab turns into a live Choky Lithian who kills Quark.

Yeah. And this is where Bishir breaks his hip right because he's like running away from this scenario. Garrett helps him to, helps him to ops. And what he wants to do is repair the central computer on the logic that that's the the analog for fixing his brain. Right.

Things are getting more and more unhinged as we go. And bishier's arrival to ops is really the beginning of that. He looks full on like Chuck Yeager now. He's greeted by a bishoren woman, Marilyn Monroeing him. Happy birthday, Mr. President. With a birthday song. Boy, she has like a Marge Simpson amount of hair, too. Yeah.

Yeah. All of the computer panels are filled with tennis balls. Becher keeps falling over and falling over again. Oh, turn it, oh, look at that, oh, turn it, oh, I fell over, oh, I fell over again. I don't know how he stood it all with a broken hip, but it's theater of the mind stuff, so. Dream logic stuff. And Garrick is growing more and more on team Why don't you just give up and this hips?

Be sure to the idea that maybe garrick isn't on his side at all Yeah, he goes that it's my part and I'll repair the central computer if I want to You would repair the central computer if it was your brain. I don't know if there's any way to repair this... This... Deep Space Wilson or whatever. You know tennis ball brands, Ben? Hop in here and help anytime.

Wilson is a tennis ball brand, you're right. Right. Great. You did good. I feel like Wilson is irrevocably associated with volleyballs now. Yeah. Yeah. They've been tightcast. It was much more of a tennis brand than a volleyball brand. But if you say, Oh, Wilson, what do you think of? You think of a volleyball? That happens when you've been ball typetype cast, Ben. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha guy, he takes a moment to monologize, bishir, and humiliate him over his many mistakes that he's made in his life.

Yeah. I love the way Altavar points at bishir's temple using his thumb. Yeah. Male, because his thumbs are like extra long and have like a creepy velociraptor jail on them. You do not want to share cocaine with Al Tavaar because his shovels are like... Yeah, they're like... Fucking OD on your first bump.

But like, I love that because like, this guy is in this loaf, right? And he's like, what would this alien species do to point? They would use this, not, you know, they wouldn't use their index finger, they would use their thumb because it's a more like specific point that they're making. It's a good character, we're like that. Yeah. The thing that Bashir had done is that that ops is maybe the center of the station in the real world, but the center of the station in his world is in fact the infirmary.

Back where he started, so he kind of gives Altavar the slip and winds up back in 6-Bey, where Altavar is also because dream. Right. Get away from that town. Oh, what? And he starts like monkeyin' with the computer and gets a little bit of control back. He puts a force field around Altavar

an annular force field. Oh, there you go. You know what I was thinking about the other day? Remember how we like found out the definition of annular? Yeah, it was ring-like. Yeah, do you think that etymologically, it's related to the word anus? Absolutely.

That's Ben. I thought that was the time. He was the one who He was the whole time. I didn't even hit on that until like days later. Everything on this show has to do with a dick or a butt. Don't you know that? We've done 250 episodes. Somehow that's always a surprise to me. That's why it stays funny.

You know, because comedy is all about comedy is all about defying your expectations. At this point, he's got Altavar where he wants him. It doesn't seem like Altavar can win. But Bashir also gets on his high horse, like Altavar is saying, why did you fail to be the number one in your class in medical school? You're ashamed of yourself. You never, you never actually put the moves on Jedzea, all this stuff. And Bashir is like, what is this? Psychic attack or a therapy session? Yeah, I mean, like who's torturing who at that moment?

Yeah, that's the bumper sticker that Bishier has on the back of his preffia. It's a picture of Al Tavaar and it says who tortured whom. Oh, thanks for correcting my grammar there. Also, that was nice. I don't know if I'm right about that. Fucking asshole. Yeah. Bashir wakes up. He comes to looking youthful on a triangular pillow.

Yeah. And we are back where we started. Bashir and Garrick having their breakfast or lunch or whatever. And it turns out that the attack that Bashir suffered is nearly always fatal. So Bashir is unusual for having survived it and he and Garrick debate whether that's luck or something else. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Does Bashir read as 30 years old to you?

I mean, I have... I am famously unable to judge the ages of anyone. So I don't know. He looks like he's our age and we're not 30. I'm 35 and you're almost 40. I know. Yeah. I don't know what that means.

Yeah. I think we're looking great. Yeah. What did you think about Bashir riding hard for staying in the friend zone with Jedzie? I think there's an awkward kind of revisionist history happening here, where Bashir makes the case that his relationship to DAX is one of friendship

and that is a friendship he wouldn't trade for anything. But a breath before that he says that he will always keep the candle lit for her. It's hard for me to believe that anyone who is infatuated with a friend could also be just their friend and be satisfied with that state of being as if there wouldn't be any sort of like latent manipulation happening to encourage a more than friendship situation. I guess that's where my mind went. It's like, sure, that's saying that you're happy with a friendship and you wouldn't trade it for

anything seems like the sort of lie that someone tells themself when they're in a situation where they want to be something more with someone and yet can't. Yeah, made me sad. Yeah. But then again, I feel like he knows that she's not into him in that way. Yeah. And so maybe what he needs is a way to rationalize it to himself that he's not going to pursue it. It's okay to be infatuated with someone and not do anything about it because your friends and to do so would

mean wrecking that. I'm not trying to say that there's anything wrong with keeping that candle lit. He sure has come full circle, hasn't he? In that regard. He is not like to begin as the creep that he was and end up in the healthy relationship that he has is pretty great. Yeah, good job by him. Yeah.

Did you like this episode, Ben? I did. I think that, you know, like the episode with O'Brien jumping forward five hours in time seems thematically similar to this, but maybe a little less successful in execution. You know, like I think that the major hit against this episode is the aging makeup. And I feel like they could have done some other effect to visually describe how close to

death he is. Yeah. Because they did not nail it with the old man makeup. And I can just see Bill Tilly's card with a picture of Burlaped this year and the caption did not nail it. I don't wanna call Tilly's shots. He can do what he wants, but God, that's funny. But, you know, he's them thematically, like, it's an interesting idea and the logic of it all hangs together nicely because you can couch a lot of it in dream logic, which is, right.

You know, like, there's, there's parts where, you know, when he and Garrick are like, let's go to Ops, like, that's where we go. And then Bashir goes on a totally crazy, non-direct route, and Garrick just goes somewhere else. And that's like not explained. Like that was my original Shemota before I knew what was going on in the episode. Because I was like, why would they split up? Where did Garrick even go?

Right. Like he didn't even go out the door of the security. It doesn't make sense that he wouldn't, because that's the only way to get out of there. Yeah. Boy, you're right. Dream Logic really gets that's the only way to get out of there. Yeah boy dream you're right Dream Logic really gets you off the hook in a lot of ways. Yeah, but it's a it's a smart and good use of dream logic And not a crutch use of dream logic right for me. So yeah, I really like the episode and I thought I

Love the idea of but you're being a great enough doctor that he can solve his brain problem from the inside out I wish I had that fucking skill being a great enough doctor that he can solve his brain problem from the inside out. I wish I had that fucking skill. No kidding. My therapist stop using my insurance. Oh no. I'm on my own here, man. Oh no, Ben.

Yeah. Sorry to hear that. And my insurance is going to change in three months because my wife just got a new job, so it doesn't even really make sense to try and like get started up with somebody new because I'll just have to change again. Did you have a last session with your therapist wherein were there any this doesn't have to go in the show but like did he give you any tools for the the interim that that you could use anything useful like for the break? No. Fuck. could use anything useful for the break? No. Fuck.

We talked about the progress I had made and the things that I still have a lot of work to do on. And I think that was good to get. And she said, if I start up with somebody else, you'd be happy to, if I sign a piece of paper giving permission, she'll like get on the phone with them and try and bring them up to speed. Wow.

Get a load of this guy. You really? Ha ha ha ha. Like, wow. Yeah. This guy's always doing bits. Thinks he's funny. I don't think he's here for therapy at all.

He's just here to do bits on us. And in its own way, that is therapeutic. Yeah, yeah, makes him feel good. So I sit and endure it for 45 minutes a week and get paid to. Adam, did you like the episode? I did like, I liked part to the episode, but like overall, this isn't

this is a move along home like example of Star Trek doing fantasy when what Star Trek really does best is science fiction fantasy and like putting that hat on top of its own hat doesn't usually work. And I don't think in that way it worked particularly particularly well here. But like some of the highlights for me are Bishir acting better than his makeup. He is wearing a shroud that makes him look pretty silly. But his old acting I thought was really good like if you if you watch him closely his Shakeness is good. He gets a little Yoda at times which like is a little bit camp But also a lot of fun if you're trying to act old like that's there's a there's an acting

Shorthand there that really is effective when he starts to get crouched over There were parts where I was like man it it kinda looks like he needs a cane. Yeah, yeah. And I liked that it looked like he needed one. Yeah, so I thought it was a real strong episode for Alexander Siddick. I also thought like, this is a weird thing to call attention to, but for props,

this was a really strong episode for that. All of the tennis balls on set, all of the balloons that they needed to keep inflated for long periods of time. Like, it seems like a challenging props episode. Like, they were winging bar stools across Quark's bar. Some fairly dynamic prop work here that I think could easily be ignored,

but really good work here. I think the message here is super strong and it was something that actually really touched me. But here by the end, he's reached that point where in the beginning he was resentful of reaching an age milestone, but like that moment you turn your life's choices from regrets into a thing that makes you who you are.

Like that is a big moment in any person's life when you can turn that corner. And that's like, that's what growing up is. And to see him both embody that and articulate that at the end, I thought was a pretty strong and good message and well done by the character and the episode. But none the episode is the sheer visiting the station's tattoo parlor, getting no regurts across his chest.

Ask Chris Brenner how he feels about tattoos. I'm Chris Brenner. Brenner information systems. You know interface operations net access channel 90. I'm Chris Brenner. Brenner information systems. You know, interface operations net access channel 90. Chris Brenner. Yeah, he's back, baby. Adam, I watched this episode two times.

Yeah. I watched once to take notes and stuff and then like, we had planned to record it like last week or something and I felt like enough time had gone by that I should watch it again. That's smart. And I really enjoyed it the second time just watching it through. So I feel like maybe I had a more medium to negative reaction the first time through, but the second time through,

you're just watching it with no notebook. I really enjoyed it, so. I did the same thing and I definitely agree. Ben, one thing we're in agreement on is that now is the time to read priority one messages. Oh yeah. What do you say we do that? I'm into it.

Priority one message from Star fleet coming in on secured channel Supplement Supplement Supplement Yes, extra The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship Adam we have a couple of priority one messages here First one is of a personal nature

one message is here. First one is of a personal nature. It is from Daniel of the long last name. And it is for Alice the Teal. Goes like this. When you're not listening to the pod at 1.5x, dancing or civilly engineering, it always being a damn good friend. And the darkness gathers, and the twilight of the mind, your smile is joy's last bastion. Wow. May you be blessed as you bless all who meet you. P.S., you think that Ben Eradam will realize that Garrick and Bashir are banging by the time this P1 airs?

What? Ha ha ha. Well, there's a lot in there. You know what, first I was ready to really go in on Alice for her 1.5 listening speed. In such a way that like how great can she be for Daniel if all she's wanting to do when she listens to Daniel talk is like speed up the pace of conversation. But how Daniel describes Alice is so sweet, I'm reluctant to do that. Are Gary can for sure banging in this episode, is that the implication?

There is for a dream scenario a distinct lack of sex Yeah in the story, so yeah, the sheer doesn't like come around a corner in the nude ever now anything How he sure doesn't. And if they are banging, how upsetting would it be to like have your love making partner turn out to be a monster that's trying to kill your brain in your dream? That'll happen. Sometimes that's what it takes to get you over the top, Ben. Little imagination. Yeah.

About brain damage. Nothing sexier than brain damage. Ben, our second priority one message is also of personal nature. It is from Mubius, and I'm pronouncing it because there's the two dots over the yo. Oh. And the message is for you and me. Oh. And the message is for you and me. Oh. Message goes like this, thank you for your awesome cool and informative podcast.

In parentheses, my first one ever. Wow. And for giving me yet another reason to watch TNG and DS9. All other podcasts are so much better. You're gonna be really excited. Also thank you for your wisdom in helping me on my never-ending quest to answer the age-old question. What do I hate more? A lockson at Troy episode or a grand nagas fringy episode?

You guys are the best. Raka. Hey, thanks, Mirbius. The French call that accent, Lutrema. Just a... How would you say their name then? Don't you call that accent le tremah? Just a... How was your wondering? How would you say their name then? Um...

I don't know, I mean, I might just say Mobius, but... Yeah. Hard to know. You can't be blamed for saying it wrong if you say it Mobius. Yeah. They always use that in the New Yorker when there's two vowels, maybe two of the same vowel right next to each other Hmm, like reenactment. They'll put a diarisa over the first e

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which is there is the scene where, I think it's post McLaughlin group. Bye, bye. BYE. BYE. BYE. Where they tune the radio to what's happening to Bashir's body in real time.

And they over here a bedside conversation that's happening between Cisco and the nurse in the room. And it's... And DAX, right? Like DAX is administering stuff to him. The thing that's clear in that scene is that Bashir has three hours to live. Yeah.

And Cisco, after hearing this, says, that's pretty tough. I'll be in my office. Ha ha ha ha. Cisco is down his chief medical officer, and instead of doing anything like hailing starfully command, maybe blowing in a call to Beijor to see about getting their best medical minds to pay visit to the station

Decides to just go into solitude and spend the next three hours in his office Cisco, what are you doing? Like do anything besides nothing right here? I thought that was and that is not fantasy sisco that is sisco prime making the sisco of the real. Yeah, I would be deeply upset if I were the bishir at the end who lives through with the matter. Like I think I would want to go visit sisco in his office afterwards and have some words. What about you, Ben? Just adjacent to Cisco in that scene is Nurse Jabara, the Bajora Nurse that we've seen working with, but she

has several times now. Nurse 9.2.1.0. Nurse 9.2.1.0. Yeah, and she's in the dream world. She's nursing with Cisco in the dream world, but she does not represent anything but nurse. Like for the only character in the dream world that isn't, you know, like there's the sick and dying people that Cisco is there to, you know, and it's pretty obvious that those are representations for the sake of establishing what Cisco represents. But the fact that she's there also and doing nurse things, she just represents nurse.

She literally represents the same thing in his subconscious as she does in the real world. And I thought that that was a nice, incisive little, like this is what Star Trek does to women characters sometimes. This was like, I don't know, make her a nurse. In Jazz Horse, there are hundreds of what are known as non-player characters. And the nurse here definitely feels like one of those. Like someone that you can have only a very shallow interaction with.

They're not meant to be played with in any substantial way. Yeah, she's not part of the mission, she's just there. But she's like, howdy and the nurses. Hi there, mister. That's a good girl. Ben, what do we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season 3, episode 19, through the looking glass. In a parallel universe, Cisco must assume the role of his dead counterpart in order to

save the mirror version of his dead counterpart in order to save the mirror version of his late wife. Ooh. We're back in the mirror universe. It seems like we were just there. It's a mirror ep. How many mirror episodes are there in Deep Space Night? Are there a lot of them?

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Still in the danger zone for a traveler or a space butthole. But we're just inching along here in the game of buttholes. The will of the prophets. I love that there was an elite hacksaw out there that told us that the code to the game is sound. There is no- Yeah, they went in and looked at the number randomization algorithms and gave it a clean bill of health, no shenanigans.

Checks out. That's nice to hear. You want a second opinion on that stuff sometimes. I miss doing drug associates though. It's been such a long time. Oh, well, we'll get some of those, I'm sure. Yeah. We'll just kick off a run of like 11 drug associates in a row

and we'll hate life. I hope not. Yeah, that would suck. One reason to love life, Ben, is the constant support of the viewers of this program. If you wish to support the show on an ongoing basis, you can go over to MaximumFund.org slash Donate. Yeah.

Get yourself on a low, low cost monthly plan. It helps pay for the server space and and download numbers for this show. It's a costly thing to put this thing out. It's one of the ways that success has cut the opposite direction. It also keeps us eating and been going to therapy. So, we appreciate all your support. It also yields you some fun bonus apps. There's like now two greatest gen holiday apps in the donor feed and a whole bunch of other greatest gen episodes. Also that are only available to people who support

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making trading cards of jokes from the episodes. And they are one of the most delightful things that exist in the known universe. So I highly recommend checking those out, even though Twitter is also garbage. Yeah, Bill Tilly is the best. Thanks Bill. We got to thank Dark Materia, who made the original theme music for this show. Didn't even realize they were making theme music when they made the Picard song,

but then we came along and took it, but then got permission after the fact. And now our boy, Adam Ragusia, the goose, makes a bunch of custom music for this program that is all inspired by that original Picard song. And we gotta thank Adam Ragusia as well. I love the music on this show. So many people, the SoundCloud, he's got a lot of the songs from the show up on there.

Yeah, that's a good call. Ben, we have so many people to thank. This is like a show has been like a Katamari domicie of gathering great friends. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Pretty awesome. Yeah. It sure is.

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