The Greatest Generation - A Warrior Is Coming (S1E20)

Episode Date: March 30, 2016

When the Enterprise discovers a busted up freighter in the Neutral Zone, they find the only surviving passengers are some Klingons who are far from neutral. These survivors follow the well known conve...ntion that any group of three Klingons have to have names that start with K, which is why Worf doesn't quite fit in with them. Worf's inner struggle becomes outer struggle as the survivors commit party foul after party foul all over the ship. What parts of the Klingon uniform are secretly weapon components? Why does Worf keep yelling at the ceiling when Klingons die? Where's Troi? And what should the crew do with all these bodies? It's the first episode to really test whether we can make good pod about good show.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 I'm Adam Pranica. Still in PR in it. Adam, this show has done a lot of embarrassing things to me, but I think the most important Monica. It's still in PR in it. This show has done a lot of embarrassing things to me, but I think the most embarrassing thing so far was I was showing my wife an article on the New York Times app on my iPad and she asked why a Biff Yeager assigned Biff Yeager trading card was being advertised in the little Amazon advertisement window in the article page. And I didn't have a very satisfying explanation.
Starting point is 00:03:19 For those of you who don't know Biff Yeager plays our guy in a few of the episodes in season one. Biffyager, of course, friend of the show, Biffyager, best actor name of all time. I don't think there's any argument there. Argyle, one of the best minor characters of the show. I think we're in agreement on that as well. Absolutely. I am shocked that there was a... I mean, I I am shocked that there was a, I mean, I'm not shocked that there was a trading card set.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I think you and I have talked about what a mistake those are to buy at any age. But. I don't know. You sent me a couple of e-bay links, which I think were probably the culprit for this becoming a thing that the internet algorithms think I'm interested in.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, a couple of them. And they had a complete set selling for like 1,500 bucks or something. Do you want to know how much a complete set of Star Trek cards was of the era when I told that story of when I was 10 years old and I went to the baseball card store and bought Star Trek cards instead. A complete set of those is like $11. It was basically the worst investment I could have ever made. And now the cards are so cool and sophisticated that they've got minor characters with autographs
Starting point is 00:04:41 on them in these Star Trek card sets. Like, the lady from episode three who got into that fight to the death with Tasha, who had that spiked poison bird glove, she's got a sign card. So it's not just like major bridge characters, like they're really getting... That is a deep cut. Like, an Edo has a sign card that The lady Edo with the perm? Yeah. Now. If you wanted an entire set of those autograph cards of minor characters, even that is like $800.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That is, you know, I wanna like dig through the crawl space at my parents house and see if I have some pristine trading cards down there somewhere. So your wife sees a picture of Argyle on your iPad and she's like, who's that? Like was she suspicious? Like Argyle's a good looking man. It says Star Trek trading card on there. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah. So it wasn't like it looked like a Tinder, uh, made her something. Swipe right. This is season one, episode 19, Heart of Glory. The Enterprise is detecting some set-trip in the neutral zone. They head into to investigate, and it's tense. They pop into warp, they pop out, they have to broadcast to Starfleet that they're entering the neutral zone.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, it's our first time here, right? Yeah, and I mean, I guess the ship went to the neutral zone that time that data had to take command while they were on planet, planet, babelicious, but... And they're suspecting that the Faringi might be involved, which is like, come on, guys And yes, stop trying to work the fucking Faringi and everything. Yeah, it's not working. Yeah, so They they get into the neutral zone and they come upon a tailarian freighter that is all shot to shit and a drift in space and This is some of my my favorite so far like alien spaceship This is some of my favorite so far, like alien spaceship cinematography. Yeah. There's some great shots of this ship.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It's a cool looking ship. It looks like a freighter. Like it's well designed for what it's supposed to be. And they beam aboard. Hey, Ben. Yeah. Do you? How sure are you that we're getting, like, we're watching the remastered versions of the show
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, and I agree the shots the exterior shots of the ships look amazing right now um are we getting just redigitized ships or are they actually changing Shot compositions with with our exteriors because I don't think that they did things look awesome and It just seems unlikely they would look this awesome in the late 80s From what I understand and this is very half remembered and we are not trying to be the most journalistic star track show on
Starting point is 00:08:01 on the podcast feed so if you want, you can go listen to that fucking mission log garbage. Yeah, if you're a rat head, go over there. But from what I understand, they did not George Lucas this too much. They tried to be very faithful to the original. And, you know, they're working from 35 millimeter film clips that they cleaned up and retell us and aid in HD. So I'm pretty sure that this is basically just a higher resolution of what it was in the original show. So they keep YAR on the bridge of the Enterprise
Starting point is 00:08:50 because I don't know if Romulans are gonna show up anytime, this being close to their space because it's the neutral zone. In fact, I think even Picard goes like Romulans, we haven't heard from them in some time. Just like, I think like four episodes ago, minimum. Yeah. I think we're aware. Yeah. But so, Jordy, data, and Riker, beam over, and Jordy has a broadcast pack attached to his visor. So he's going to be face timing the entire trip on the on the Tilarian freighter. And so they get over there and and they start broadcasting when Jordy's visor is getting to the main view screen on the bridge. And it's like the
Starting point is 00:09:39 craziest like 1980s electronic music video you've ever seen. Like as a filmmaker, I'm just like, okay, so they did like a, they like set the hue to modulate at a certain speed. They did like a find edges effect and duplicated the track and set that to multiply on the, the track and set that to multiply on the original track. It's just real color rama situation. Yeah, it really is. And what an interesting choice. You know, before the away team beams to the freighter, they all basically agree to trap.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I think they actually say those words exactly. But what better time is there to just experiment with a piece of equipment and see what Jordi's seeing, you know, so they really take their sweet-ass time over there. Now I'm beginning to understand him. I liked the sort of mystery of what Jordy's visual life is like. And I'm not sure this really nails what I had hoped it was in my imagination. But anyways, they poke around on this ship and it's a really cool busted up ship interior,
Starting point is 00:10:56 like a real bully job on the set design departments. Yeah, I mean, you could tell, they went to a hardware store, they got a bunch of gutter downspouts. And that silver closed dryer ducting. Yeah, a lot of ducting. Yeah, I mean, that shit is everywhere. It's great. Yeah, it looks good.
Starting point is 00:11:16 There's lots of like mist everywhere and they explore and that one point. Yeah, I mean, we need to talk a little bit more about this because like it sounds like I'm being flip about the interior of the ship, but I'm really not. Like, that's great. The way it's shot is really cool too. They play with light a lot. Like they're back lighting a bunch of the rooms that the characters walk into, so the effect is real spooky and
Starting point is 00:11:45 and ominous. There's parts where the mist kind of blows out light, so you can't really see past point points because of all the smoke in the air. It shot a little bit like a horror movie, too, where characters are shading to the left or the right of frame before before revealing Where they're going, you know that that little film effect yeah, and Genuinely tense scene and and what they come to find is a crew of
Starting point is 00:12:18 three clingsons one of whom is severely wounded and as they find them the the reactor on the ship starts to go critical, there's a pretty tense moment where YAR runs down in the transporter room to try and beam them off the ship and you sort of wonder if it was so important for her to be on the bridge before, why she's now in the transporter room, when they have people who have the title transporter chief, onboard the ship. But she is just barely able to get them off this ship before it goes ballistic. Well, I mean, we see the ship explode. And then a couple of seconds later, we're going to expect like her to beam in a bunch of like wet red mist under the transporter pad, but luckily she's able to
Starting point is 00:13:12 capture them and bring them home. Yeah, there's a there's an supportive attempt where she she runs the transporter and it quite can't quite get a lock. So it was a real touch and go there. Yeah, so one of the one of the dudes they bring back is there's three Klingon in total that they find on this cargo ship. And one of them's really badly hurt. So they bring him to the doctor and they just sort of the two the two healthy Klingons start explaining what the hell they were doing over there. And they say they were attacked by a Faringie ship. And the Klingons, seeing that this cargo ship captain was just totally overmatched, they
Starting point is 00:13:53 took over the cargo ship and used some of the cargo to fight them off. And so the story they're describing is super far-fetched and when Picard presses him on more details, the sort of leader of the Klingons, what's the leader's name? Chorus. When Picard presses the leader of that group of Klingons chorus about a little more details, he's like, oh, I'm really tired and hungry. Maybe I should get something to eat first. Pretty classic. Can you, can me and my buddy, you'll get our
Starting point is 00:14:29 stories straight and then we'll come back and tell you about it. Yeah, would have been a great time to have one Deanna Troy in the room for that kind of interrogation. Yeah. Deanna Troy completely absent from the entire episode. Strange. Yeah. One thing I noticed watching this is, I think that there's another group of three clingsons that shows up in DS9. I'm not sure if they're in next generation as well.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Kang, Kodos and Kore. And these guys are Kores, Conmel and Koonivas. What's up with three Ks? What's up with KKK being the normal group of three Klingons? I don't know, Ben. I wish I could say I was surprised after episode three. How dare you? Yeah, David Duke wrote this episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Uncredited. He wasn't in the guild, so they had to give him a pen name. This is one of those episodes where, you know, in the first couple of scenes where they come back from the open that the entire screen is filled with writing credits. It's usually a bad sign. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all.
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Starting point is 00:17:47 We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two. What do you think? Ona Ross and Kerry, available on MaximumFun.org. As they're shown to their quarters, they find out that there's another cling on on board, Lieutenant Worf, who introduces himself. And so they have a little bite to eat, a little bit of tea with Lieutenant Worf, and they're kind of fucking with them. They're like, have they teamed up? Or have you always been dussell? Does it make you gentle? Has it fills your heart with peace? And he's like, why are you trying to big dog me? Like I am just a chill dude trying to be a cling on in a human world. They really play up the contrast between them.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Like these quote unquote real clingons are covered in metal and they have this big nappy Andrew WK hair and Wurf has got like his tight bob and is like really like trim and put together and it's teeth are good. Like what they shoot the klingons really close up and you get the idea that their teeth are just really jacked. Yeah, they have bad, bad bad teeth. So as they're finishing their meal, they get, they get word from the sick bay that Kunivas
Starting point is 00:19:10 is, he's not long for this world. So they go down there to pay their respects and this is maybe my favorite Worf moment into all of Star Trek, because as Cunivus shuffles loose this moral coil, wharf and the two other surviving klingons from the wreck start growling and then let out a crazy scream. Yeah, and they do that thing where they cut to the the high angle of the group. Like they're screaming at the camera. It's pretty great. We go to the God perspective.
Starting point is 00:20:00 We're made to understand that the reason they do this is to warn the heavens that a warrior is coming. Right. Yeah, data explains that this may have never been observed outside of the Klingon alliance or whatever it's called. Klingon empire. So, they're one of the Kay's Dows. And so we get a little more time between.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Which one do you think it was? Koo? Klan? Yeah, definitely Klox. So the two remaining Klingons are pallet around with a warped a little bit. And they sort of let it slip that they might be outlawed klingons.
Starting point is 00:20:47 They're looking for, they're looking to live that cowboy lifestyle that they haven't found necessarily in klingon culture since this piece that the federation and the klingons have had for years. They're like, fuck piece man, we want to be free and we want to go out and kill and be the warriors that we know we can be and Worse. Worse. Not exactly down with this Yeah, it's a they sort of explain that yeah, dude We took over the freighter. There was no foringy around we wanted to take over the freighter and and cruise to a place for we could be Cowboys the way we want to be.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, this really draws on some of the films from the original series cast. Like, undiscovered country is all about like, like, klingons and humans that are too used to fighting with each other, to feel comfortable living at peace with each other. And I guess these guys are decades later, kind of remnants of that situation.
Starting point is 00:21:49 The Klingon Empire is at peace with the Federation, but these guys are not down with peace. The Warriors. That scene and the scene that follows is incredible to me. So basically, these two Klingons admit to being terrorist hijackers. Right. And then a second later, they're like, hey, Wurf, would you mind walking us around the ship? We'd like to see more of it. Wurf's like, yeah, no problem. Show us how the place works. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, hey, uh, hey, data, let's show your, uh, your identical twin brother, how does it, how to work your station at, at ops, just so that he could assume your identity if he ever wanted to say, take over the ship.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Real loose with the security there, Worf. Don't know how you're going to ever get a promotion actin' like that. Yeah. Yeah, and also like the fact that he doesn't immediately go report that to Commander Reiker or something. Well, he's not a snitch. Snitches get stitches on the Enterprise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So the Enterprise detects a Klingon Battle Cruiser coming up on them pretty hot. And they get on the radio with this commander who demands that chorus and con mail be turned over because they're fugitives and criminals. And I think at this point, the bridge crew understands that they blew up a cling on chip. And so Picard is like, get those guys in custody as quickly as possible. And they're like, oh, wow, they're actually walking down
Starting point is 00:23:24 the hallway toward the battle bridge right now. And he sends YAR and like the Dustbuster Club down there to go round him up. Yeah, there's like five security people all with Dustbuster phasers at the ready. Pretty threatening. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a weird scene because like a Like warf is sort of standing in between chorus and Connell and then the dustbuster club on the other side and it's like
Starting point is 00:23:56 Sort of testing his loyalty like is he gonna be loyal to these klingons or is he gonna be loyal to his crewmates and then a Turbo lift opens and a little girl runs out and Corus picks her up and Yars is like, hostage situation and he's like, what chill out and he hands the girl to wharf. Like Corus basically speeds Tasha Yare like hostage situation, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Tasha doesn't have the nerve to shoot the hostage at that point. Yeah, but she also calls in a hostage situation way before it's clear that that's what it is. Basically, as soon as the turbo lift doors open, she calls the hostage situation. Yeah, and Wurf is like offended on like a racial level. He's like, he's like, we don't fucking do that. Okay. That is an ugly stereotype. And we have worked very hard to get past that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Anyways, the Klingons are put in the brig and no sooner they're they in the brig than they start to assemble their their secret uniform weapon. Right. which is made out of like a boot tip, a belt buckle. Two belt buckles get put together. Yeah. One of them has like, I think in like the upper chest part of his uniform, he has a couple of tubes that are the barrels of this gun,
Starting point is 00:25:20 and then the boot tips are the, are the disruptor part that goes on the end of the barrel. It's real fun to watch and put this thing together are the, are the, uh, disrupter part that goes on the end of the barrel. It's real fun to watch and put this thing together. Yeah, it's a total Macroober job. And I think we can be confident that the enterprise transporters are unable to detect anything dangerous at any time. They're constantly beaming people up with weapons or parts of weapons. They beamed up John B. Five episode to go. They just don't really care. Well, his credit, John B. Just had a bunch of uh, a bunch of titty beads on it in him, you know, there was nothing to worry about with John B. Then beads though.
Starting point is 00:25:57 The beads. So Worf tells the captain that like the the Klingons if they take these guys are just going to go execute them and that Picard should should reconsider just handing these guys over. But you know Picard's in a tight spot. Worf gets on on the blower with Canera, the Klingon commander on the other ship, and pleads to let them take exile in a hostile planet rather than execution,
Starting point is 00:26:35 because I guess the Klingon oner logic is that if they're executed, then it dishonors all Klingons, but if they can die on their feet like men, then their honorable deaths will be good enough for them and good enough for everybody else. But Canara, he's got his orders as much as he agrees on a personal level with Wharf. Yeah, he's a company man.
Starting point is 00:27:01 He's a company man. He's a company man. So as this is going on, Kores and Connell bounce from the brig, I think Connell gets wasted pretty quickly. Yeah, they trade Connell for the security guy outside the door. Two people die immediately. Yeah, I was a little confused by that because I felt like the animation of the phaser blasts
Starting point is 00:27:24 looks like what it usually looks like when it's on stun mode. It's like the kind of ripple effect. And usually on kill mode, it either physically wound somebody, like lights their clothes on fire or they totally vaporize. And it wasn't that with either of these, but yeah, I thought it was weird. Like, chorus and con mail are out and the firefight happens. Con mail gets killed. The security chief gets killed. And chorus just bounces. Corus doesn't stop to open up conmel's eyes and give the yell. Even
Starting point is 00:28:07 a quick yell I think would have been appropriate at that point. Yeah. Why not? He had the time. He had the time. And I think we can assume from this scene that maybe they weren't as close as we thought. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of, I mean, you worry for the dead that they're not gonna get any warning that this warrior is on his way. Could you imagine the dead are just chilling out? Yeah. Just a...
Starting point is 00:28:33 Fucking conmil shows up and starts cutting people's heads off with a batlet or whatever? Yeah. A little warning. Would it be nice? Heads up next time. Thanks, guys. Yeah, so, uh, so chorus makes a bean, uh, beeline to engineering, uh, with his little, uh, with his improvised weapon. And basically gets up to the second deck of the warp core and aims his weapon
Starting point is 00:29:02 at the warp core, sort of taking the ship hostage. Yeah, at the Dalithian Chamber. Yeah. Yeah. If a Disruptor hits the Dalithian Chamber, it's going to take the whole ship out and him along with it. And Warp has to kind of explain this to the captain. Like, he is not looking to be taken alive at this point. Like, it's either going to be, he kills everybody on board the ship and takes off with the ship, or he takes the ship out killing a thousand people to prove his point. So, Worf goes up there and tries to reason with Corus. And this is kind of an interesting discussion about the way they define honor and the way
Starting point is 00:29:43 they define themselves as warriors. You know, we learned last episode that Warf's enemy is the reliance he has in being a member of Starfleet on other people to keep him alive. Like Starfleet's all about people working together to, for the greater good, and that's a real hard road for him to hoe. And that's the enemy he battles every day. That would not be satisfactory. Yeah. And it was in.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah. So, so, Wurf is like, and this made me really respect Wurf, you know? Wurf is like, a man with a very profound internal struggle and he doesn't have any shame about that. He's like, yo, this is what I deal with. This is like the way I have to live my life. And I'm not ashamed of it. I like, this is the life I want to live, and I just have this struggle.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That's part of it. And he feels very confident in that giving him the qualifications of being a real Klingon warrior. And chorus is like, he's like the only way he can really define it is by going out and being a conquering murder zealot or whatever. So he's not going to be talked down by Worf. Yeah, it's a real like angel devil argument, right? Totally. And how does this work out? He like lunges at wharf and wharf shoots him? Or does wharf just just do it? No, wharf takes a little, no, he doesn't
Starting point is 00:31:10 take an elevator. Wharf climbs the ladder up to his level. Yeah. They both have this discussion. And then wharf just straights up, shoots him. Pretty badass. It's like hon shooting first, you know? Yeah. And then, and then chorus, well, they make these decks in engineering out of class. And it's not 10th, which is kind of a mistake. I would have thought it would be clear aluminum like they have in Star Trek IV of Voyage Home. Yeah, so he's chorus is basically the guy
Starting point is 00:31:39 at the party who falls through the glass coffee table. Yeah, so he falls through one of the decks and then lands on a deck below and cracks that one. So huge party fell. I mean, it's party fell on top of party fell. I don't know how many of these glass decks there are, but. Right, because the work was pretty tall, right? It's at least several stories tall.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I think you could conceive of a situation where he could have fallen through like eight of these glass coffee tables. He is the body equivalent of the alien blood in alien going through the deck plating. Just one floor after another. How fun would it have been to see them have to like run down the stairs and keep chasing him as he goes. Yeah, I mean, as it was, the cleanup is substantial, but not as bad as it could have been. I mean, this is a one-shot fact job, I think, getting all this glass cleaned up. And then, and then, Worf does that thing.
Starting point is 00:32:38 He opens up his eyes with his fingers. He does maybe the best scream of all, because do that they do that inner cut thing where yeah They cut progressively further away and then they cut wider and then they cut super wide sort of like I don't know where you've seen this effect before like probably Hitchcock movies where someone gets murdered in a house And they cut to the exterior and birds take flight from a tree if this had been shot in the irony soaked 2000s it would have cut to the outside of the ship and then the galaxy and then the universe and you'd still hear him screaming yeah yeah it's pretty epic so warf has more respect for chorus than chorus has for Connell.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Absolutely. I mean, yeah, and you wonder, like, does Worf at some point, like, go pay that respect to Connell and they just don't show it unclear? They refer to this a couple of different ways. Like, as soon as a Klingon dies, they ask what to do with the body. Like, a few different people are asked. Originally, they they ask what to do with the body. Like a few different people are asked.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Originally, they ask chorus what to do with the first guy's body. And chorus is like, well, he's basically a piece of garbage right now if a warrior soul doesn't inhabit him. So treat him like nothing. And then the same goes for chorus's body. They ask, what they're going to do with him. And he's like, I don't fucking care. Like, they're home in the compactor.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah, put them in the replicateer and make some cutlets out of it. So they get back up to the bridge and Picard has an awkward phone call to make to Canara, the commander of the ship that's come to collect these two ass wipes. And he's like, hey, you know those guys that you came to get, they actually got out of our brig and, well, we had to kill them.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So funny thing about those prisoners we were planning to send you. So canar is like, can I talk to the Klingon guy that you had on board before? And a wolf comes down and into the lower portion of the bridge. And canar asks them, ask them how the fugitives died. And wolf says they died well. And canar is like, cool, you're good, dude. You can come work on my ship any day of the week. And Worf's like, all right, that sounds pretty good. Once my term of service is up here,
Starting point is 00:35:15 and when they cut off communication, he's like, I don't want to work for that asshole. I was just being polite. Yeah, and that's the button on the episode. Like Worf being polite to another Klingon, and then going back to his science station. They all laugh, and they freeze frame, and then the credits roll.
Starting point is 00:35:32 My love is a people longing for that, which longer than us at the PC. For all of the things in this episode that weren't perfect, I think this might be my favorite episode so far. I thought it was great. Like all of the stuff with the ship at the beginning was great, super well done, great suspense, like interesting conflict.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I love warf episodes generally. You get some shootmaps? Yeah, there's good action, like, and overall, like, you know, plausible tension and fun to watch. Yeah, I agree. I don't agree that it was the best episode of the season. I don't know what episode I would give that award to. The only thing to me that didn't make sense was Troy's absence. Her unexplained absence and her real utility,
Starting point is 00:36:25 like she was needed in an episode like this, but without her, I think they just allow these terrorists to run roughshod over the ship. Yeah. So yeah, I dug it, it was fun. I mean, the Klingons were really cool looking. They walk around like, they walk around like cowboys, like they make a sound, like they've got spurs hanging off
Starting point is 00:36:48 of them. They're really loud walkers. They're legs wide apart. Yeah, they're really cool. The contrast between them and Worf could not be more pronounced. They really, they really dial that up in a fun way. Yeah, but like well characterized, like you can see the part of wharf that is in them and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah. And you can see like what he has had to do to adapt to the to the environment that he serves in. Yeah, I mean, you could this is this is one of the better character development episodes that you get in this show. Because I think so often so often you get in this show because I think so often so often you get sort of a dullsville character episode where you know, Picard's gonna go explore the holodeck
Starting point is 00:37:32 and you're gonna learn more about him. Like it's not, the stakes aren't as high in an episode like that, but there seem like real stakes here, which were great. So, good job, guys. Good job, Rob Bowman. I took a tour of the internet a little bit to figure out his deal because I kept seeing his director credit on episodes in the first season.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah. I was blown away. Do you know anything about him? No, is he related to Chris Bowman? I don't know. We will have to, I don't know who that is. That's a joke. We love Chris Bowman. Friend of the show, Chris Bowman. He's the co-host of my other podcast. Let's drink about it.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Which I'm not ashamed that much. Yeah, that show is fantastic. Anyway, Rob Bowman was 27 years old when he started directing Star Trek episodes. Oh my god, I'm jealous forever. Doesn't that make you feel like a huge asshole? Yeah. God, I'm 36 and I am making a Star Trek podcast. That's how shitty I feel.
Starting point is 00:38:36 This is one of five episodes he directed in season one and he went on to direct 12 episodes in the series. He directed at 27 years old, five episodes in this season. That's amazing to me. I just thought that was awesome trivia. I thought the camera work and you know blocking it, everything in this was great. I mean, I think you did a good job with it. Yeah, yeah, me too. Good work, Rob. Good job. Nice one. Hey Ben, do you have a drunk Shimoda? I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Drunk Shimoda! Um, you know, I didn't really come up with one for this episode. The only thing I could really think of was there's this moment when they're on the Tullarian ship at the beginning when Data's like, I should go through there because it's like really hot and radioactive in there and it's not gonna affect me that much.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And he comes back and he's like, yeah, it's through here. Come on, guys. So Data was my only like nominee, but I didn't really feel like it was that great of a Drunk Shimoda moment to warrant a full blown award. Data being the guy at the party that jumps off the deck and is like, hey, that wasn't that bad guys. Guys, you should try that.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That was super cool. Yeah. Yeah, totally. My drunk Shimoda is chorus, and it's all about that scene where he left his homey in the hallway without giving him a little scream. That sounds like... That sounds like classic drunk guy behavior
Starting point is 00:40:07 where, you know, bro meets a girl at a party and then just jets and doesn't tell anyone. Yeah, totally ghost son out all his friends. Yeah, that was a pretty, yeah, I mean, you could say Connell literally ghosted at that moment. But, but chorus doesn't give him the dec the decency of a yell even a little one. So for that reason chorus is my Shimoda for this episode. Bad form chorus. Weeks aus. He got what he deserved though. Yeah, he got what was going on in an honorable death. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 going to an honorable death. Yeah. I am the cutest of all. Lockpages on that vessel. I am the cutest of all. There are four lights. What do we have coming up next on our next exciting episode of both Star Trek, the Next Generation, and our podcast? The next episode is The Arsenal of Freedom.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Picard and the Away Team fight for their lives on a planet run by a computerized weapon system. What do you remember about this episode, Adam? This is one of the most memorable episodes to me, I think of the whole series, Echo Papa 607. Yeah. I remember this episode very well. What's that, what's that SMARMY actor name?
Starting point is 00:41:29 That like, he's one of those that guys. Yeah. Yeah. He's sort of like Tony Shalube type Yeah, he's like he's like if Tony Shalube had never stopped smoking cigarettes and was like 55 years old Yeah, I'm totally excited to see this episode like this episode like like all of them I haven't seen since they first came out. So I'm excited to see if it holds up. Yeah. What's the, what does the reception look like? They, they described this actor we're talking about is Vincent Chivali, who of course it's Vincent Chivali. They say totally owns every scene he's in. Yeah, I bet.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Which is how I remember it to the guys awesome. A fun, enjoyable, diverting episode is what it's been called. So yeah, things are looking up for the greatest generation. Yeah, they're really building it up. Like, like we've said, a few times before, I don't know what we're going to do with this podcast. Once the shows get good. I just have to shut it down. I guess we'll find out together. If anyone wants to reach out to us
Starting point is 00:42:30 and tell us what they think of the show or of us, you can find us on Twitter. I'm at Cut for Time. Ben is at Benjamin R. A. H. R. That's how you spell the R part of that. Yeah, and we have an email address. Drunk Shemota at a Gmail send us a note It's awesome when people review the show on iTunes with five stars. That's
Starting point is 00:42:52 Really, you know, I think that we've really kind of gone through the looking glass on the embarrassment factor and Now we're just trying to get as many listeners as we can yeah now it feels like therapy It feels less embarrassing and more therapeutic. We're leaning into it. To get more listeners, something like 70% of all podcast listens happen on iTunes. That's where most people find shows. If you go to iTunes and rate and review the show, that helps us stay on the charts and get in front of people's eyeballs and it's a big help.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah, and it also pushes down those guys who leave one and two star reviews because they think we've got a filthy crazy podcast that's totally ripping on a show and a child who they thought that they loved. Like, we don't need those people. Five-star review, one sentence. That's all we need, that's not too much to ask. No. Alright, well, after making that solicitation to our tens of viewers, I guess we should wrap this one up.
Starting point is 00:44:00 We'll see you next week with another exciting episode of Star Triath and Next Generation hosted by two guys who are growing less and less ashamed over viewing them. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison. See you next time. Make it sound, make it sound. Y'all pick out of, got it, got it, got it, got it.

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