The Greatest Generation - Admiral Belt Buckle (DS9 S6E4)

Episode Date: March 9, 2020

When Sisko is reassigned to a desk job at Starbase Threeblahblahblah, the Little D is going to take his soup thermos, and do missions without him. Meanwhile, on DS9, the first big action by the Resist...ance Club inadvertently reveals what Leeta loves about Rom. Is Changeleader going to lose respect for Odo when she sees his toy collection? Does Nog also work as a waiter in the Little D’s mess hall? How much linking do you have to do before you’re labeled a ‘problem linker?’ It’s the episode where Jake gets a new moniker. 🖖 Get tickets to GreatestGenKhan II: Star Trek III! 🖖 Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation. Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark Materia  Follow Adam and Ben on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen! Facebook group | Subreddit | Wiki Sign up for our mailing list!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate
Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecisoto for labor.com. That's friendsofdisoto for labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! The god of the universe, the end of the world. Commander Benjamin says great, better isn't stop-beasy. Deep Space Night. Welcome to the greatest generation.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Deep Space Night. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranika. Adam, you're moving down to LA. Yeah. You're going to be able to tend the inbox,
Starting point is 00:02:46 no. Expred Shimoda any longer. So I have gone and gotten a PO box for us in my neighborhood. Yep. Los Angeles. And a few things have come in. Would you like to do a little mail call?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I love it. I love hearing about boxes being opened instead of boxes being taped shit. Ha ha ha. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47. Verify, it is code 47, sir. Starfleet emergency frequency.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Captions eyes only. All right, we've got something here from Alex Fitzpatrick, who I believe is our buddy that writes a time magazine. It's about time we got something from him. Let's see, okay, here's a note. Dear Ben and Adam, hey guys, like so many of your viewers, I've long turned to your shows for a laugh when I most need one. My love of track comes from my grandpa, who used to sit me down on the couch for every new episode of TNG when it was still airing.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I know he would have loved your shows too, and if they get podcasts in heaven, then he's up there laughing as ass off. Anyway, as a small token of appreciation, I grabbed you guys a couple of the limited edition Picard Metro cards. Awesome. Metro Picards. That they're selling in New York right now. There are a couple of rides worth on each if you find yourself needing a subway next time you're in the city.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Cool. After all, if you're headed to a major conference, public transit is way safer than a shuttle. It's true. Thanks from the East Coast Fits. Wow, thanks Fits. These are cool. I need to Jackie and Lurie you.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I have an image of these cool Metro cards. When they were doing the media push for this, that was one of the items that I really coveted. You and I have a friend that just moved out to New York and I thought to ask him to send us a couple of these, but I didn't get around to it. That's great. Well, you have one now, Mon Freire.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Look at those things. So cool. Yeah, super neat. Very fun. Our next package here is from Casey and Michigan. So, yeah, this is a box. I'm working my way up in size. That first one was an envelope. This is a box. That's what you do. It's the card's first card before gift. Oh boy. This
Starting point is 00:05:14 is a ice pack or two in here. Oh no. That's not food, is it? This is Grocer's daughter chocolate delivery. What? There's a card in here from Casey. It says, you guys are doing Who does it? This is Grocer's daughter, Chocolate Delivery. What? There's a card in here from Casey, says you guys are doing great and everyone loves you. Happy Chocolate! Wow! Cool!
Starting point is 00:05:34 Oh man! There's one in here for me and one for you. And the one for me's got like some chocolate bars, some chocolate covered berries, some chocolate-covered berries, some chocolate-covered espresso beans. Oh, man. I'm really excited about this. I'm not like a crazy chocolate person, but I do like a bit of chocolate from time to
Starting point is 00:05:58 time. Oh, man, this box is deep. I'm psyched about those. Like some fonds in here? A espresso beans. I grew up not being a huge fan of the espresso being covered in chocolate, but now. Now I'm way into that.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's great. Goodness. Wow. Well, there's a goody box waiting for you here in LA. It seems like the cool packs were just to keep the chocolate from losing its tempering in transit. That makes sense. Wow, well thank you so much, Casey.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Thanks, Casey. That's amazing. I'll be down there in a week and a half. You'll have some chocolate to look forward to. Yep. And our next and final box is from Adam T. in Oregon. It's the biggest box of all. You're Adam T in Oregon. It's the biggest box of all. You're going up in size? I'm going up in size.
Starting point is 00:06:50 All right. Which is not to say that the chocolate box wasn't big because it fucking was because of the big box of chocolate. Wow. That's gonna be a lot to take on, Ben. All right. Got an envelope here. All right. You're Ben and Adam. I am so excited to be. Alright, you're been an Adam.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I am so excited to be writing this letter. I love your show. It's been my pod companion since I heard John Roderick publicly make fun of it about three and a half years ago. Yeah. He's a Borg! Oh no! Oh!
Starting point is 00:07:18 We got the Borg! The two of you have been significant in keeping everything feeling okay even as the mirror universe converges on our reality Between greatest gen and disco you guys continue to make me laugh weekend week out Your incredible consistency and production excellence is amazing. Thank you I'll get to the point Whenever you land on a quirk's bar or God forbid a more in-hammered episode You go for those easy drink and beers smoky mezcals
Starting point is 00:07:45 Calvados or strange and wonderful sounding tropical lakers. I keep hoping one of you might pull out a bottle of wine for a variety sake. I figure that maybe I could help jumpstart the process. I live outside of Portland on a small vineyard with a northern tip of the Wallamette Valley. I haven't been to make a small bit of wine every year, and I've been doing it for a few years now now ever since I moved west to spend time with my grandfather
Starting point is 00:08:09 and learn his wine-making ways. Wow, we've got a regular Picard in the making here! How about that? I'm beyond excited to send you two bottles of what I am now calling Sheto De Soto. Hey! 2016 Pinot Noir. If you care about nerdy wine crap, it's a blend of pomade and 115 clones aged in natural French oak for about a year before bottling. Hope you find it tasty, inoffensive, or at worst, functional. Thank you. Thank you for your incredible show.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Thank you for doing double time to talk through new trek on discovery as you continue to dig into old trek on greatest gen. Wow. This guy should write the label copy. Oh man. For his point. Speaking of labels at him, I'm going to Jackie and Laura you a picture of this bottle. I think you're really going to be delighted by what you see. Wow Look at that That's great. Do you say ever had yeah, we've got we've got Captain DeSoto himself
Starting point is 00:09:18 So awesome That's fucking great now There is a wine in the world called Chateau Shimoda and another one called Chateau De Soto. There's a growing wine averse surrounding the Grey's Generation. Look, I'm definitely not punching up Adam's great gift here, but if I were to walk into a wine shop and see both Chateau Picard and Chateau De Soto on the shelf. I would expect Shatto De Soto to have a hook. Like it to be a larger format jug wine with a finger hook in the side. You think it's a Carlo Rossi level product that Adam is making here?
Starting point is 00:10:00 No, no, but I'm just saying based on name and picture alone I have expected the shadow to so to come in a box though. I have enjoyed some very good wine in a box before Just for reputation reasons. I think that's awesome That's great. I'm really grateful that our viewers are so talented in so many ways and then and then sent us gifts that That prove it that's awesome. Yeah, that's really rad. Thank you to everyone that sent something in. How many bottles did that do you have? We got two bottles so we got a big box of chocolate and a bottle of wine waiting for you here in Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:10:39 not to mention an MTA card. Let's try to remember the next time we have a drinking episode to pop those bottles and maybe we can even do it together. That would be really fun. Yeah. Well, Adam, that concludes our mailbag segments. Do you want to get into the episode? We came to review today.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I can't wait. It's Deep Space 9, 6 episode 4 behind the lines. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you've done. It's a lovear. It sure is. It's great. I love seeing his credit.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, so we are deep in the war at this point. We open with the captain's log at Starbase 357 which has kind of become our home space station on this show Does it say it wrong? Yeah, okay. I just want to make sure you got it And we're at start base three blah blah blah blah, which has become our our home star base for the show Since deep space nine got taken over, Cisco is talking about how the crew is still feeling quite determined despite what a tough fight it has been so far.
Starting point is 00:11:56 They're taking their lumps, but they're also finding time to enjoy some Sori and Brandi, sourced by Master Scounger, nog. Yeah, I mean, people are cutting loose a little bit, but nog sure isn't. Nog's working a double. Is he both working as a starfleet and also as a waiter on the starbase?
Starting point is 00:12:18 This seems cruel to me. It just becomes natural to him. I like that there's an open bar on the starbase, though. That's fun. That's fun. Yeah. I mean, the federation really does it right, you know. I think Nog would dispute this though. I can't figure out if he's being hazed or maybe this is how Nog gets comfort.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Dude, it's something we talked about pretty recently, like why no open bars at funerals. And I think that this is kind of a case being made for, that not because it's a bad idea. Now, not at all. They have a little ritual on the defiant crew, which is that every time they use up one of the power cells for the phaser array, they bring it into the mess and stack it against the wall
Starting point is 00:13:06 with all the other spent power cells, of which they are a lot. You don't just throw something like this away. Then I have one question and one question only for you. This is a question for all the marbles. Oh wow. All the Latinum is on the line. We're skipping the easy questions and cutting to the end.
Starting point is 00:13:29 When I ask you this, which crew person is most likely to turn the phaser array into a giant dick and like walk around the room with it between their legs? As a bit. I could kind of see Bashir doing it actually. I was gonna say O'Brien, but I think both of them are the front runners. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 They would do it together, right? Yeah. Like everybody else has left the mess and they're like, you know Miles? Yeah. Everybody else has left the mess and they're like, uh, you know, Miles. I've had a jolly good idea for a bit of a joke. Yeah, they're clanging them together, like they're dick sword fighting. That's the thing about this ritual. It's it's not, it's not the first time they've done this. They've, they've got a lot stacked up on the wall. So anyone who wants to make a fake dick out of a power cell can in this room.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That goes out over the calm. Just so everybody knows, at lunchtime today, Chief O'Brien and Dr. Brashear will be holding a fake dick contest using spent power cells. We don't throw something like this away, so enjoy. This is a type of acting that someone has to do occasionally, which is making a light thing look heavy. And you can tell at times that there is no heft to this power cell, but but people are acting like there is. It's tough. It is tough. It's something that next gen had a big problem with because they were always having styrofoam
Starting point is 00:15:08 boulders roll around and stuff like that. Yeah. Every book is actually quite good at the business of making it look super heavy. The business of weight. Yeah. Every book's, every book's knows how to move weight. You know who knows a lot about this is Aaron Eisenberg. He of the shake weight experience of a couple seasons ago. Yeah, he's not bad at it.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Admiral Ross comes in and grabs Cisco by the shoulder. And says, hey, listen, we need to talk. He puts one hand on his shoulder and puts another hand on his giant belt buckle. He's got his land. It's a sick belt buckle on the tier. Yeah, Admiral Ross's new Admiral uniform gives me real mirror universe vibes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 That belt buckle. He's Admiral belt buckle for me forever now. I can't, I can't not see it. Yeah, I think that's fair. He had, he had a more TNG-looking Admiral uniform. He did. They changed the Admiral's uniform to something
Starting point is 00:16:12 that's more like everyone else's. Yeah, now he's Admiral Beltbuckle. Beltbuckle, bro! I thought, I mean, why not put your pips on the belt buckle? Give it a little bit of style. It's just, it's unadorned. This thing.
Starting point is 00:16:27 That's what Kirk would do. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he's talking to us this go about how every time the federation sends us sort of ships out to tackle some dominion thing, seems like they're always one step ahead. They're always getting a drop on the federation. They always know when they're coming. And it turns out that this is because of a huge secret sensor array that they've had set up. Damn things capable of monitoring ship movements over five sectors.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And Starfleet Intelligence finally figured out that this thing exists. It's near something called the Argollis cluster. And so he's going to send the little D out to take this thing down. And he wants Cisco to put together a plan for that action. If you, Fairviewer, had it in your head that you may see this cluster or the array, I'm here to let you down easy. It's not going to happen. Because this episode is about Captain Cisco's perspective on things. Yeah, and it's about going up to 30,000 feet and not being in the thick of it. Yeah, that's part of the thing. Like, it's a good news, bad news thing. We found that another pair of balls that the Gemma had our half that we're going to go
Starting point is 00:17:39 out to kick. So Cisco has given the order to come up with a plan for kicking those balls. We cut to Deep Space 9 Quarx Bar, where Demar is coming in for his afterwork shift drink, and narrating what is going on with Demar from up above on the second level are Best Buds, Ramen Kira. After a hard day at work, he deserves his glass of conor. They're doing that thing. I feel like you see there's a movie a lot. There's a scene like this in Hutsucker Proxy where characters from across the room are speculating on what's going on by narrating it.
Starting point is 00:18:19 R Into the Dane. I really like that. There's a device. I love Ramen the scene, mostly. I love Rahm in the scene mostly. He's the one that swipes the pad that contained the memo that is going to get DeMar in such great trouble here. The sort of trouble that Kira is describing.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It's nice to see him capable like that. Yeah. And doing his undercover duty pretty well. I mean, like this, this scene devolves into a lethal bar fight between the Kardashians and the Jim Hadar. Like three or four people die in this bar fight. It's that rugged. And it breaks out because Tamar has written a memo saying, like, hey, we're running out of
Starting point is 00:19:07 that white, white, white. When these gem hadar run out of it, they're going to go crazy. So maybe the last dose that everyone gets, we poison to take them off the board and not turn them into a problem that, you know, we don't want to hoist ourselves on our own gem hadar. It's a super rugged plan that makes a sort of six cents. I don't know how we're supposed to feel about tomorrow at this moment, but I kind of admire the big swing he takes here. Get them before they get us, is the Demar plan, and I get it. They're surrounded by lethal killing machines that show their abilities in the very bar that he's in.
Starting point is 00:19:55 They hate each other. Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way!
Starting point is 00:20:03 Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! The cup, the cup, the cup. So... Rahm says something up in the balcony, like, I think Kira is admiring Rahm's ability to swipe the pad, and he says he's good with his hands, Ben. And so now we know I lead a love sim. It finally comes together. We see a lot of violence in this bar fight, Ben, including a wrestling style backbreaker move. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I mean, some pretty intense stuff happens. Like when we see court go over the bar, like that's a pretty dangerous stunt, actually. Yeah. Because it's like, it's a wide shot. You see the whole thing. Like it's not like going over onto a mattress or anything. It really looks good.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And when we come back from the opening title sequence, they are literally like pulling sheets over the dead bodies of people who participated in this bar fight. Yeah. It's disproportionately cardacians, but there's at least one gem in our among me, among the dead. Among the honored dead. So cardacian CSI comes comes and does the eyes close things
Starting point is 00:21:08 on the bodies and also takes all of their spoons and puts them back in the drawer because you don't take cocaine with a spoon. What you income down and Ducat does as well, Ducat has basically like red, Demar, the riot act for writing the memo in the first place. And Wei Yun's like, hey dude, we need to make sure that everybody knows
Starting point is 00:21:31 that we're still buds, you know, the Dominion and Cardassians still have a friendly alliance despite all evidence of the contrary. So while we're standing around the scene of this bar fight where a bunch of people died, just like smile and laugh, just act as if. You got it. I'm smiling.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Mark Alamos smile is so grinch-like and unnatural. I love it so much. Really great choice by him. Maybe you could practice in front of a mirror or something. Back on Starbase 3, Malu-Malu-Malu-Malu. Sisko has worked out his T.E. Lawrence-like plan to take out the censor array by the Argollis cluster, which is to fly the defiant in via the cluster.
Starting point is 00:22:14 From the Landwood side, there are no gums at Acaba. Nobody is expecting a ship to come from there, because the gravimetric sheer would surely tear a starship apart, but they have Lieutenant Commander Dex on their team and she knows how to get around that problem. The Argoly's cluster might as well be God's Anvilbin.
Starting point is 00:22:36 No one will expect them approaching from that angle. Certainly the text of dream of it. Do you think they go back for nog if it gets lost in the in the recalls cluster think you'd have to? Kira visits Odo in his office and Odo is Pist that Kira was behind the bar fight they had a meeting earlier that Odo was at We discussed it at our last resistance meeting. And Odo pretty clearly voiced his concerns about the plan. I said it was a bad idea. And Kira implemented the plan anyway. We're better than I expected. Odo has signed up in recent weeks for just a lot of meetings because
Starting point is 00:23:18 he's going to the ruling council of the station meetings, but then he's also going to the overthrow through the ruling council of the station meetings. And it's just like, it's really filled up his dance card in a way that I think is stressing him out unduly. Yeah. Yeah. Schedule pressure is a hell of a thing. I totally understand what Kira can't understand at this point is that Odo is being too
Starting point is 00:23:40 safe. And the tension here is that Kira has already made her transformation. She was also too safe for a time, but now she's on the other side of it. She's ready to crush some heads and orchestrate some barfights, and Odo cannot get with that. Yeah, I mean, we've known Odo to be somebody who believes in justice to a fault, but he also really believes in order. And he's making the case that like all of these ops that you're pulling are upsetting order on the station. You're gonna get all the bejorns kicked off.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You know, like you have no idea like what the consequences of some of the shit you're doing could potentially be and it's really bad. Right. So don't do that stuff. And if you are going to do something, don't cut me out just because I didn't like the idea at first blush.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They're interrupted by the entrance of change leader. She's there to visit Odo because she's trapped on the side of the wormhole and wants to- This is a big surprise! Yeah, I had no idea that she was trapped on this side. She wants some liquid companionship, Ben. Yeah, she wants to splash around with Odo. Yeah, and Odo is incredulous with her because she kind of acts like everything is fine
Starting point is 00:25:03 after she's solid ground to him. Yeah. And she's over it. She's over it completely. We have her given you. She does not hold a grudge, which is an amazing magic trick given how evil she is. Yeah, I mean, that's science fiction to me.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I, it's impossible to comprehend. Yeah, I love it when you remind me that you hold grudges with people you have disagreements with. Back at the starbase Admiral Beltbuckle is having to move some personnel around. He's making promotions and filling positions and one of the positions he needs to fill is a captaincy and he wants Cisco for that, which means he's elevating DAX into the role of Captain of the Little D. I think he uses the term Agitant for what the new role is going to be for Cisco.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Some kind of aid to camp that's going to help him run this battle group that he runs. And Cisco is flattered and accepts the gig, but it means he's not going on the Argoly's cluster mission that he just set up, and that takes a bit of adjusting for him. He doesn't immediately change gears and get into that. It's clearly a promotion that he has mixed feelings about, and it's one that he can't turn down, either. Do Cot leads a MacLaughlin group? If the MacLaughlin group was nothing but Pat Buchanan's, because he's sitting at the table with Odo, who's a legion says maybe a little inscrutable and also wayune.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's two pet bucannons and one pet bucannon wearing a beagle pus. Right. Enter change leader who immediately disrupts this meeting because of how wayune feels about the founders. And this is an effect that divides duKa and Wayune in the room because like as soon as Wayune becomes all deferential to Cots like, oh man, really?
Starting point is 00:27:13 Like, I'm not going to kiss the ring, Wayune. Like, I'm here to do a job. And Ducat gets up and starts talking to change leader like, hey, like we're peers and this is, you know, like this war is awesome, obviously. I'm glad we are finally getting the chance to meet. And once we're done with this war, I'm just really looking forward to, and she's like, the yay, but what's going on with the minds, like all I care about is getting back to the goo planet.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Exactly. Yeah. Odo invites change leader to his quarters. Coffee's not coffee. Coffee is sex. And once they get there, she sees all of his toys. You got to see this through the eyes of a woman, you know? And this starts a conversation where Odo tells her all about his life. And then, and it seems clear that there's like a permanence to this.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Like she observes how he lives and where he lives. And she questions his desire to stay where he's been. And like why wouldn't you just join the great link? Why do you surround yourself with these weird toys when you could be anything in the golden lake and she makes him admit that he's sticking around for Kira. Yeah. And she's like, you know, the only thing that Kira broke in heart is some consensual linking.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah. And so they link each other, Ben, they link each other all over the place. Sleeping with the enemy. It definitely seems very orgasmic the way René O'Bourgian will outplays it, right? Yeah. Like, he really fucking loves linking.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, I mean, if he were able to link anytime he wanted to, he'd probably spend all day doing it. Yeah. How many times could you link in a single day you think? Like, what's the record? Records probably like eight. What does Oto's refractory period look like? I know. How long does he need to recover after linking?
Starting point is 00:29:06 That's what I'm saying. There has to be a limit. And Odo needs to know what that is. Kira walks into the security office looking for Odo and finds DeMar is there instead. And they have a little fuck you, no fuck you kind of conversation. DeMar is a great character because he's just there for everyone to be withering to. Yeah. Nobody respects or likes D'Amara.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And yet they as personalities in this scene feel equal in a way that is very exciting and rewarding. Like I want to watch them swing haymakers at each other all the time now. Yeah. I didn't know how much I wanted this until I finally got it. It's really fun to see. You love to see it. Yeah. Kira does catch up with Odo and she says something seems different about you.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Let me smell you dick. And discovers that he's been linking with change later. And then, she really... What's great, I don't even have to unzip. I can just, I can just take it out. Here it takes great umbrage with this, because we know that when you link some of the things that you know transfer back and forth, this has been used strategically in the past,
Starting point is 00:30:25 but you know, Kira's very worried that Odo's role on the resistance club board may make it way through to change leaders' knowledge. And she's very upset with him. I love this scene. I love how Kira is here, because she's so right. She's not just a little right. She's a thousand percent right.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Like the one person that you can't merge with is who Odo is merged with. And Odo is like, it goes both ways. Like, if she had ulterior motives, I would know about it. But you can't talk sense to Odo in his post link, Revery because Odo's telling Kira about how great mushrooms are, and Kira's like, we need to clock in and go to work.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like, Kira's trying to like put him in a cold shower and like get him work ready. We are air traffic controllers, Odo. We need to focus on that right now. That's, yeah, that's totally it. It's great, and that tension is now. That's totally it. It's great and that tension is perfectly played. I love it. I need you here, focused.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So she basically forbids Odo from snogging change leader any further and he's like, all right, all right, I'll chill out on fucking change leader. You make good points. Anyways, I gotta go to work. It really feels like at this point that Kira is the only smart person in the resistance and it's like a daycare for her. She is the heavy of the resistance and it's not even close. She's the heavy, the leader, the spy, like she knows all the parts. She has to do all the parts herself.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Well, we don't get in this episode that I wonder if we will begin to see roll down is just how frustrating this has got to be for her to be the most capable one of the resistance. How many assholes we got on this ship anyhow? Go! Who is seeing these angles in a way that no one else is and how fucking frustrating that's gotta be for her. I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes. Because if she just had capable help, the resistance would be more effective.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah, it's like when my wife tells me to check people's work and make sure that the people I hire to do things are doing their jobs, I'm like, no, no, no, no, we pay them to do their jobs. That's all you have to do. Or it's like when we do friendly fire and I bring my 200 word vocabulary to a 10,000 word conversation fight, you know. Oh, Adam, don't sell yourself short. You've got at least 250 words. All right. Back on the little D, which is parked at the station, Dax is now running the bridge.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And it's interesting to see her in the big chair. Nog is clearly working a double. Like I think he's gone right from the bar to the ship. And Cisco enters on a mission that I am perceiving as one of getting his soup back. He's got to check the chair and it's going to be a little awkward getting to accept out of there. Yeah, he reminded me of just take one last little sit down before you go. Yeah, this scene really reminded me of Han Solo and Lando Calrissian talking right before Lando takes command of the Millennium Falcon for
Starting point is 00:33:47 That last Star Wars movie. Oh, yeah That's fair. So this go definitely sidles over to the soup side of the chair, but Dax never gets up Yeah, yeah, she's keeping that soup for herself. Yeah, she's keeping it warm too. We get a moment of sadness when back in his quarters, Cisco has to watch the ship go without him. Yeah, bummer. Then this is the last we see of the Argolysmission before they come back.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Cisco basically turns to camera. He's like, certainly we're gonna see we're gonna see this cluster, right? We gotta show us the cluster We believe it was check-off that said if you establish a cluster in act one You you fly through it in act three, right? It's true. It's very true At Quarks on Terracnoir, DeMar rolls up. Again, like he's going back to the same bar that the bar fight happened in. I think this is very bold. I think it just shows how Quark has cornered the market
Starting point is 00:35:10 on the Food and Bev service on the station. Where else is he gonna go? We've been watching Star Trek Picard over on greatest discovery and we learned that Quark stays in the bar business for a long time. Yeah. Going forward, but. He franchised. Yeah, I wonder if he franchised or if he just moved locations.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But yeah, he says they're renovating, which is code for we're fixing the bar after you ask holes to destroy it. I'm surprised that DeMarz is not persona non grata. And I think he may have been, except for he's ordering the really expensive canar and loose-lipping some evil plots that he has going. We'll change the course of history. It isn't this scene that Quarka hits a square
Starting point is 00:35:55 on the game of Buttholes by surprise. I, and I know you feel the same way, Ben. I love doing shots with a bartender. And it's great when a bartender is invited into the party a little bit and and doing the hang and that's what Quark's doing. He's having this vintage canar with D'Amare. You know what? The canar looks like to me is a shot that we have done several times with a bartender
Starting point is 00:36:25 is a shot that we have done several times with a bartender at a bar that our buddy Chris Bowman used to work at in Toronto called Bar Fancy. They have a blackbird shot. And I wonder if that, if we ever do hit that canar with the Marsquare is the shot that we have to do in that episode. I love the idea. I was coincidentally just a couple days ago.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I was at my local and thought to get one of those. I was feeling nostalgic and I know that's like one of my favorite shots now. And the bartender was like, hey, I actually make that into a cocktail. It's a off the menu drink that I make called whiskey drank. And so it's whiskey, montanero, water, and an orange peel. And it tastes very much like an old-fashioned without the sugar. Because of the Montenegro so sweet. Yeah, Montenegro is sweet enough that you don't need to add anything else. I thought it was a tasty cocktail, really good. But a nice variation if you don't want to shoot it.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That is very nice. My wife is a big fan of Amaro Montenegro. And if I had an excuse to buy a bottle of that, that would be a welcome use of both of our time. Well, now you do have a reason, Finn. Yeah. Well, we'll see if we ever hit that square. Quark has no reason to arrive at a resistance meeting other than his extreme drunkenness. He, uh, he barges in on Odo Kiraram and a character I'm going to call for the rest of the series, maybe for some reason, Jake.
Starting point is 00:38:02 For some reason, Jake is in this meeting too. And they're all really nervous. They do that thing where like, if you're having a secret meeting, the last thing you want is someone at your door that you're not expecting. Luckily, it's quark and he staggered drunk. Confession. Somebody hold my hair. I'm going to throw up. Yeah. He confides in the group that he may hate. Cardi is as much as O'Brien does. I don't like Kardashians. It's not you that I hate Dimar, it's how drunk you made me. Because Dimar got a promotion to go
Starting point is 00:38:30 and the playing with Kanaar that Quirk did was to find out why. And it's because Dimar figured out a way to deactivate the minds using the deflector array. Ram gets his rolling timpani face, his cartoon timpani face, his cartoon timpani face in the scene, because he thought he had figured out all the angles
Starting point is 00:38:52 to this thing. Apparently, he had not, and there's a really fun bit of wordplay here because Quark's drunk. He's a little bit slurry, and he conflates de facto with de facto. He said something about the station's defector. Ankylisor.
Starting point is 00:39:09 One of those words means, ROM may be in trouble, and the other one is having to do with the station. It's pretty great. Fun act drunk from Arm and Syrman, I want to say. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's not a slurry goofy, like big drunk. It's a, it's a, wow, I fucking have had too much drunk.
Starting point is 00:39:30 It's a certain kind of drunk that is fighting the drunk, and I feel like there's a little bit of that in the performance here as well. It's great. What we get from this scene is a plan coming together, and it's a plan that combines two very different personalities. We need ROM and OTO to work together because in sort of a bank robbery situation, OTO is
Starting point is 00:39:52 going to deactivate the alarm while ROM runs the diagnostic that is going to remove the deflector or raise ability to destroy the minds. This is the step to supply through the send this information out. And this is being done all over the fucking place. This is all timed out. It's when Oto gets to work the next morning, he's going to push a button that allows Ram to go in through the Jeffries tubes
Starting point is 00:40:16 and make these modifications. Right. He's gonna have five minutes to do it. So shit, there's gonna be tight, but this is, you know, like the opening of this scene is like, hey, maybe we should like cause more fights between the Gem Hiddhar and the Cardassia. Right. And this is a much better, more cohesive plan that actually like has a tangible benefit. Right. They're not just going to put a bunch of broken pool cues in the middle of quarks.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Like they're gonna, like this is something with greater consequences. You want 100,000 advance against a 10% cut for that? Back on Starbase 3 by the, wharf and Cisco are having a little face time, and they are both basically talking about how frustrating it is that they don't know what's going on with DAX. Upon this thing, they can agree. This is, I think, the scene where Warf's character turns into a penny stock for me.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Warf's, they're both, they're both an agreement about how difficult it feels in their different ways because Cisco rightly is like, wow, man, you know, DAX is over there and we don't know what's happening and that sucks. And Worf tells Cisco, it's more difficult for you because it's an entire ship. What the fuck? And it's Cisco's ship. It's like, yeah, it's like, wow, you let my wife borrow your car. What if she scratches it or gets an offender, Bender? Not a good look for Worf. Yeah, I don't think you are.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Bender not a good look for Worf. Yeah, I don't think you or The war for redemption is coming, but I don't like they keep digging they keep digging the way a standup does and their first 10 minutes like It's gonna be fun digging my way out of this yeah, yeah Anyway admiral belt buckle sick beltuckle is telling Cisco to get some sleep, like a dad telling his son he's stayed up too late. It's very condescending. Cisco is very preoccupied with what's going on with the mission. The defiant is on and I don't know, Beltbuckle's like, Hey, man, like the defiant is one of many ships that we are
Starting point is 00:42:24 supervising right now. And they're all doing big shit, and tomorrow is a big day. Like, you need to zoom out a little bit, and you need to be rested for tomorrow. And this goes, like, listen, man, like, my time is my own. I'm going to stay up all night waiting for updates on the little D. I'll be there for you tomorrow by hook or by crook, but I'm not ready to treat the little D. I'll be there for you tomorrow by hook or by cook, but I'm not ready to treat the little D like it's not extra important to me. I like scenes where every character is right. And I think this is one of those. Like I can I can totally
Starting point is 00:42:57 empathize with what Cisco's going through, but also get it together, man. Like you're going to be you're going to be dying of sleep deprivation. If you don't get it together, man. Like you're gonna be, you're gonna be dying of sleep deprivation if you don't get it together because there are many ships and not only that, the little D's gonna go out all the time. Yeah, this is gonna, this is your life, man.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's time to start getting used to it. Yeah, do you want me to like maybe transfer you to a condo without a window facing out? That helped. Good morning. Morning. Morning. Steve, helped. Morning, morning. Morning. Steve, sweet.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Morning. Morning. Morning. Steve here, buddy. Morning. Stop. Hepatite. In Odo's quarters, he's hanging out with Change Later again and asking Zillion questions.
Starting point is 00:43:38 The Zillion questions of a kid who never met his, never met his family and is now has an opportunity to find out about them, I think. Like, what's it like being in the link all the time? Do you ever just like get out and walk around? Where we always like this or where we sell it at some point and we evolve to be change links? What's going on? And she has a lot of answers, some a little cager than others. I wanna say, like the drop becomes the ocean, the ocean becomes the drop, is something that he reacts to, like it really illuminated something for him that seemed to more obscure it for me.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Right. Hey, this must be deep. But I wonder if the changelings are a bit like the borrugs when they're all linked together. Yeah, like that idea. Do they kind of hive mind themselves? Yeah. All the while, change leaders becoming a little bit
Starting point is 00:44:32 impatient with Odo, because you know, like I could just, I could basically download this information to you if we linked up again, rather than having to deal with all this verbal communication. If communication is what it's all about, what it's all about, what is all about. And Odo is resistant to this idea, and then he finally lets it slip, that he promised Kira he wouldn't, and that's the reason why he doesn't want to.
Starting point is 00:44:55 The girl I like says I shouldn't kiss my mom on the lips anymore. We're in high school now, and it just seems weird to her. The girl I like encouraged me to get this haircut. I'm still kinda trying it on. It's not the way I've usually done it. She also said these saggy jeans are cooler than the ones that I had before, but I just feel I don't feel like myself wearing them. Did you ever watch that movie Can't Buy Me Love when you were growing up?
Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm thinking of seeing that one. Can't buy me love is basically a movie about a nerdy guy falling for the cool girl and she changes him demonstrably. Like he slicks back his hair, starts wearing clothes, gets cool. All of his nerd friends ostracize him. Is it like that movie where the girl is like a dorky artist where she, if she takes off her glasses and lets her hair down, everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:45:50 whoa, she was actually hot the whole time. It's actually the opposite of that. She puts on glasses after being with him. Like, she realizes that she's as nerdy as he is in some ways, in falling for him. So yeah, she walks backwards up the stairs. To use the she's all that. Yeah, she's all that metaphor. Wow. Well, who knows who is she's all that in Odo? Whether it's Kira or change leader, but what Kira is doing is taking delivery of a basket of fruit from Ram. I hope there's more than just fruit in that basket.
Starting point is 00:46:31 This is the basket of fruit that he has concealed all the tools he needs for this op that they're about to pull. And I guess it comes to her quarters so that she can walk him to the Jeffrey's tube. And this isn't the first time that Ram or Quark have used a fruit basket to conceal something, right? Oh, really? Like, wasn't there an episode where they hit a bug in a fruit basket for a meeting? That was pretty recent, I guess.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah. Anyway, there's some, there's a really fun moment here when some cardacians walk into the background. We see how good Kira is at improvising her way through a situation where she's got to cover for something. Yeah. And there is good improv and then there's good improv that is helping your scene partner. And she's the second one where she's making it obvious like what Rom needs to say next
Starting point is 00:47:31 so that she can get him not killed. Right. Oh, your brother sent this, didn't he? And so they get out of there. He climbs into this Jeffries tube with the fruit. It's going to be a few minutes before 0800 hours when Odo flips the switch. Crazy ending to this episode because as soon as Ram gets into the Jeffries tube with with the with the fruit bowl, he is attacked by hundreds of voles and and then we and then we get the
Starting point is 00:48:00 credits. Pretty dark. Did you like the episode, Adam? I mean, I was kind of rooting for the volostebh. Just tearing him apart. Yeah. Put Lita back on the market. You'd love that. You know, there's two parts of this plan we were referring to.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Odo is instrumental, and so Kira's next stop is Odo's office, but she finds it empty. And uh oh. What do you think is happening? We cut to Odo's quarters, and he is merging with change leader as Kira is growing frantic on the comms trying to get his attention. Odo, answer me. The fruit delivery does not go well in a price. When you link to you turn off your senses
Starting point is 00:48:52 because it seems like he could hear her if he wanted to, but maybe he's in that form of reverie that we see before and we see after that he just doesn't care. Yeah, I mean, it's one of these things where you can tell everything is fucked way before it's actually 800 hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 She's about to leave and radio rom but Demar stops her and tries to strike up a conversation and it's like, no, like that 10 seconds cost you everything, basically. I wonder if they ever thought about not showing the linking like to do it in a as a kind of invasion of the body snatchers thing where her very presence suggests what might have happened. And then if we cut to the end of this episode and we see how uninterested Odo is in the
Starting point is 00:49:44 consequences of an of his actions, then you realize that he's been turned. You know? I mean, I think that that's an interesting way to do it, but I did like to see it going in. Yeah. Yeah, especially when you get in that, like, underneath angle, shooting up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Pretty sexy stuff. We're running out of time, Ben. And it is majorly stressful. Like, there's only minutes left for Odo to turn off the alarm system. He's clearly not going to be able to do it. And so the alarm goes off with ROM inside the tube. And so he books it. I loved ROM scrambling through those tunnels.
Starting point is 00:50:23 It looks so painful to me. Yeah, it really reminded me of that mission impossible movie with Philip Seymour Hoffman, where there's a scene where Philip Seymour Hoffman is playing Tom Cruise in Philip Seymour Hoffman mask. And he's like swinging from ropes and like running and jumping. Love it. Stuff like it's it's it's Ram doing stuff that you never thought Ram Love it. Stuff. Like it's, it's, it's wrong doing stuff
Starting point is 00:50:45 that you never thought Ram would do. Yeah. And he, he gets grabbed by the Kardashians. Ugh, this is tough. I think one of the qualities of Ram is that you're kind of essentially feeling sorry for him. Yeah. Like he's capable in so many ways,
Starting point is 00:51:01 but he's also incapable in, in almost as many or even more. And so when he's arrested in so many ways, but he's also incapable in almost as many or even more. And so when he's arrested, you're like, God, who is the worst person to be interrogated and tortured? It's him. It just makes me feel gross and sad. It's tough. You really want to do this here. Now, okay, okay, let's do it. Back on Starbase 3,000, I heard that the Defiant crew have successfully returned from their mission.
Starting point is 00:51:27 They're having a drink in whatever the Defiance equivalent of 10 forward is. And the mantle of Captain has really passed a DAX. She does the same speech about the phaser battery. You don't throw something like this away. She takes two of the power cells, puts them against her chest and she's like check this out. Pretty hot scene. Yeah. Yeah. Cisco and Admiral Beltbuckle are observing this and there's an understanding happening here. And that is that Cisco cares very deeply about this crew
Starting point is 00:52:09 and about Dax specifically, but they don't need him in the way that he thought they might. And that is a character building moment for him. He gets it. I like that. The button on the episode is back on Terracnoir, Kyra walks into Odo's absolutely enraged, like 11 out of 10 pissed off, and is met in an equal and opposing force by the chill of Odo, who isn't defensive at all about being at fault for this and that is such a creepy way to be like it's not that
Starting point is 00:52:48 It's not that the responsibility for it is bad. It's that he knows he fucked up and it doesn't matter Are you saying you forgot? I didn't forget It just didn't seem to matter. He doesn't care because nothing matters to him more than the link now Yeah didn't seem to matter. He doesn't care because nothing matters to him more than the link now. Yeah. Linking is all he cares about. And he just feels like a different person with the same face. Oh, no, doesn't want to go out anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He just wants to stay home and link all day. It's really sad. It's very sad. You see this on here. There's a healthy way to make linking part of your lifestyle. And then there's the way where it kind of like takes over and starts to cause harm in your personal relationships, starts to make you kind of like not available for day-to-day life things that you need to be available for. You link too hard or too much and it makes you
Starting point is 00:53:43 ineffective when you link with other people. You start to expect the specific things about the way you link personally. Another person can never really provide that. No. I love Nanaa Visitors take here because when you see her expression change from what the fuck into I finally get it. It's clear, like, it's over for Odo and her, both personally and professionally, and when she leaves, change leader emerges from around the corner. And the feeling gets doubled down with not only her presence, but with what Odo says. Like, what's happening doesn't bother him whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And we get the single brass instrument of turning your back on your friends into credits. It's super sad. Super sad RSVP friendly Odo. Yeah. Yeah. Did that change leader look a little red to you in the face? Yeah, I mean, after I've linked them off
Starting point is 00:54:44 then a little flushed. I don't know, I don't know if you're not, but uh... Asked and answered. Yeah, that was easy. Did you like this episode, Ben? I did. You imagine an episode of TNG ending with a main cast character having just like fully gone evil on us?
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's hard to imagine, right? a main cast character having just like fully gone evil on us. It's hard to imagine, right? It's to war. Fire. Though the quality about Odo up until now that neutrality in him makes it seem as though it's less traumatic to see him almost go hyper-neutral instead of evil. You know what I'm saying? The brand of character evil that he's demonstrating here isn't like
Starting point is 00:55:34 arch or anything like that. It's a weird effect. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a really interesting episode where we have a different TV show next week than we started with this week. Yeah, sure do. How about you? Yeah, I liked it for all the same reasons. I thought both the A and the B story were equally interesting to me. I mean, I prefer TV and movies that really make me feel something, even if that feeling is bad and the creep out factor of Renee Auberjian was performance here at the end, I think
Starting point is 00:56:13 is great. It was super effective in that way. You know what else is effective is priority one message, Adam. Do you want to see if we have any in the inbox? Oh, I know we do. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement, OK? supplement, supplement.
Starting point is 00:56:32 supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a couple of priority 1 messages here. The first one is from Matt. It's to Astrid. Goes like this. Hi, Princess. One year ago, you showed one is from Matt. It's to Astrid. Goes like this. Hi, Princess.
Starting point is 00:56:46 One year ago, you showed up seven weeks early. You spent 14 days in the NICU before we could bring you home. Your mom and I had no idea what we were doing. Look, we still don't, but we love you like crazy. And hope you grow to appreciate space, Star Trek, Friends of Disotto, and Ben and Adam, sometime in the 2030s. Happy first birthday.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Wow, a very good friend of mine is a Nikyu nurse and has been for a while and that is a really serious place to be. So I can't imagine how difficult they had to be for a time. Really glad that that be is home. Where they belong. Happy birthday, little baby Astrid.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Don't listen to Arzo until you're like 25. Yeah, way older than 18 or 21. Like you should be driving for many years by the time you boot up greatest gen. Yeah, you've done your required Tour of Duty in World War III and now you're back and now you can start. Yeah. Alright, Ben, our second priority one message is for Matt and it is for Briego and in parentheses
Starting point is 00:57:59 it says, and also Ben and Adam. Wait, is this the same Matt? I don't know, I don't think so. Maybe, let's see, let's see through context clues if we can figure this out. Message goes like this, it's Valentine's Day, my wife is out of town. I've had too many Cocoa No-Nos, and I'm finally 100% caught up with TGG and TGD. I blame all of you for this.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Ben and Adam, you and your shows are great. Thank you for making them and thank you for making my days a little bit brighter. Consider a live show in Lexington, Kentucky. The bourbon is on me. Wow, they have bourbon in Kentucky. Thanks, though. I mean, I, I think that's what made Kentucky famous, right? I thought it was the way he pronounces it in the last of the Mohicans when he says
Starting point is 00:58:48 he's gonna move to Kentucky. I love that. Probably won't be able to swing a live show in Lexington, Kentucky, Matt. But thank you so much for the P1 and I hope you've recovered from your cocoa knownos. And I'm glad you're here. be able to swing a live show in Lexington, Kentucky, Matt. But thank you so much for the P1 and I hope you've recovered from your Cocoa Nonos and I hope you had a little makeup
Starting point is 00:59:12 Valentine's Day with your wife when she got back from out of town. If you've got a message you like to share with a newborn or anyone else you can go to Maximumfund.org slash jumbo trron where personal messages are $100 and commercial messages are $200 both of which are a great way to support the ongoing production of this show. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment.
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Starting point is 01:00:30 We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We get stupid with Judy Greer. My friend Molly and I call it having the spaceweirds. Pat Noswald. Could I get a ball-rock burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you. And Kumail Non-Giani. I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Come get stupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look, your podcast apps are already open. Just pull it out. Give Jordan Jesse Goatry. Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead. Oh, Raps, hey, hey, hey, oh, I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I hate having to stand in line and boy, what a line. These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short neck. But I'm here and we need to get on this. So I gotta get on the arc. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah?
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out.
Starting point is 01:01:34 We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. Drunk Shimoda! I did find a drunk Shimoda. Ben, I'm gonna give it to Demar. And he doesn't have a ton of dialogue in this scene, but what I'm gonna say is that I like what he does without dialogue.
Starting point is 01:02:15 There's a scene early on when he has that interaction with Kira in Oto's office, where Kira is basically flipping the desk over in front of him and he's just eating it and watching, like he's got kind of a neutral face, but he does the sort of like head shake thing that I really dig, I really dig little details like that. What does a person do if they're not talking during a time when they're just absorbing someone's rage? We talk about it all the time on the show, like an actor's micro expression,
Starting point is 01:02:51 selling a character's motivations or experience. Like this is one of those things. The person playing D'Amara here makes a choice about what to do with his head. And I totally feel it when he does that. That's Casey Biggs is as DeMar. So DeMar slash Casey Biggs is my drunk Shimoda. What about you? My drink, Shimoda is Kira for the bad choice she makes at the end of this
Starting point is 01:03:17 episode of walking into Odo's quarters to confront him about what he has done. Yeah. Change leaders right behind that wall. And you've got to check for change leader before you. Are you suggesting? How do you check for change leader if you don't have a phaser rifle shooting that being out into the room? That's it you wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Sweep the room. Sweep the room. All right. We've seen this is a device that has been used one too many times on deep Space Nine where somebody walks in says the big secret and then walks out and then the evil person you want to hear that secret has just been laying and waiting.
Starting point is 01:03:56 No good. Sweep the room. That's the lesson. Every time. Good call. Don't, don't sweep the room. Not even once. Glad you want to see what we're going to be doing next week. You're here to tell us what it's about
Starting point is 01:04:14 and also what the game of buttholes has to say about the way we'll be talking about it. Okay, well, the next episode is season six, episode five, favor the bold, part one. While Kira prepares for the destruction of the Federation minefield, Cisco plans to retake deep space nine. Hey, fun. Big stuff happening next week's episode. And as of right now, our little runabout
Starting point is 01:04:44 is on square 57. There's a space butthole ahead that could take us down to a quirk's bar. Mm-hmm. On square 18. I think that's the only thing we can potentially hit right now. Right. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.
Starting point is 01:05:01 So I'm gonna go ahead and roll this thing, see what we hit. Oh shit! Got it? Roll so I'm gonna go ahead and roll this thing see what we hit oh Shit got it. I hit I hit the butthole. Wow We have hit the Quarx bar on square 18. We keep sliding down this game board Yeah, we'll never get to more hammered at this rate this game board. Yeah, we'll never get to Mornhammer did this right, but a nice concession is a Quark's bar episode. We'll have to just resolve to randomly roll high numbers going forward. Right. One thing I like about this though is we now have an idea for Canar with Demar and that puts Canar with Demar ahead of us again. Right, right, right. So yeah, anyways, Quartz bar next week.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I don't wanna do Quartz bar with wine, that's for sure. I mean, I guess we could. Next week is the max fund drive as well, so. Oh good. Good timing. So prepare for a drunk man and Adam trying to convince you to give them a little bit of money. You know what, this is perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:04 This is how it should be. I love it. Yeah, I guess so. All right, well, that's the next episode in the meantime. I would say hold off on contributing to the production of the greatest gen until they started the Max Fund drive because you want those great prizes, right?
Starting point is 01:06:20 I'm gonna come down on the other side of this and say if you're feeling like it, you should, you can always do it again. Yeah maximum fun. Or excels last join But you can also support us in freeways like Recommending the show to a friend or loved one or you know going on Apple podcast leaving us a nice review if you ask a question in your review We might answer it in the Marin on a future episode. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 You know how Bill Tilly supports the show? He makes the comedy trading cards that come out on Twitter every week. He does indeed. He uses the hashtag GreatestGen. He's at Bill Tilly in 1973. I'm at Benjamin AHR and Adam is at Cut for Time. Yeah, you should use the hashtag GreatestGen. That's how you find other like-minded friends of DeSoto.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, that's fun hang. Get in there and find a spouse. You're looking for one of those? Yeah. But the first time it had happened. Yeah, that's how you do it. Hey, we never talk about this, but there are transcripts of new episodes of greatest gen
Starting point is 01:07:23 every week on maximumumFun.org. I think they tend to take a week or two after the drop of an episode to get the transcript done, but these are like human-produced transcripts of every episode, and they really do a nice job. It's like a PDF with, you know, who's speaking and at what time. So if you're, if you have somebody in your life that is hard of hearing or just would prefer to consume the show in a text-based format, we have heard from people that actually really like it that way. And also, if you just want to look up something we said,
Starting point is 01:07:59 some weird rum we might have recommended. That might be a good resource for that kind of thing as well. Maybe you love the idea of greatest gen, but don't like our voices. Maybe just put the transcript in and of Siri read it to you. Yeah, I think that's probably, yeah. If you could get Castilian Spanish Siri to read it against like Australian Siri, that would be really something.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I love the music on the show. Adam Ragusia is responsible for that in large part, riffing off of a thing that dark material did originally for the OG version of the greatest generation. You can find Adam Ragusia all over YouTube. He is a YouTube sensation. He's encouraging you to season your cutting board before the meat, all sorts of really
Starting point is 01:08:46 Crazy ways to prepare food, but but but good. Yeah, I mean like you're gonna learn like simple and easy dishes to prepare that are fun to eat But also like learn a little bit about the science of like why a cooking technique Works when you're doing it. They are really good videos and I'm not just saying that. He's done a hell of a job over there. It's killing the game much more popular than us for good reason. Yeah, he's not making transcripts of his show. He doesn't want to get sued. I do not want to read back the transcript of this show
Starting point is 01:09:21 during a deposition, Ben. We need to make sure that that never happens. Yeah, it's not it's not court reporters that are writing it. Max, but fun. It would hold up under. Max fun was so interested knowing if they could, they never stopped to think about whether or not they should make transcripts of greatest generation. Yeah, we should have done it on different shows. And with that, we'll be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9 and an episode of the greatest generation Deep Space 9, which sort of drives
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Starting point is 01:10:22 Imagine they're great, like a hotel lobby bathroom. Yeah, because the gem had art on shit, right? Nope. Yeah. So the, well, but the Kardashians have been shitting in there. Oh, yeah. Yee. You don't get the sense that the Kardashians exactly
Starting point is 01:10:39 have excellent hygiene. Yeah, I don't get the sense that they're treating those public restrooms like campsite. Get it, you'll lose the car to the U.S. Get it, get it, ride. Get it, you'll lose the car to the U.S. Get it, get it, ride. Make it, make it, make it sound. Make it sound. Get it, make it sound.
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