The Greatest Generation - Also What My Wife Says (Wrath of Khan - Bonus Episode)

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

When a new tour’s tickets are on sale, Ben and Adam decide to share a rare bonus episode with the public feed. But when their live show about Wrath of Khan is recorded in a synagogue, these vulgar podcasters will face their biggest challenge yet. Will Kirstie Alley become a main cast character? Will Ben’s organs be harvested by the Space Force? What kinds of security clearances do the Friends of DeSoto have? Its the episode where we Brando right onstage in a house of worship. Heat do GreatestGenTour.com to get tickets to our upcoming live shows!

Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,

and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate

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and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. One of the most frequently asked questions from our friends of Disoto is what is a live greatest Gen show like? What it's like is a recorded episode, but just tons of live fun.

We show clips from the films and we party with the friends of the Soto. It is a rockest good time. It really is. And what you're about to hear is one of our favorite live shows from last year's tour to the tour where we gave the greatest Jen treatment to Star Trek 2, the Wrath of Khan.

In a lot of ways, this year's tour is a sequel to last year's tour. So this is our Washington DC show from last year. And if you are interested in coming to Greatest Jen Khan 2, colon Star Trek 3, head to greatestjentour.com. Tickets are still on sale. And we are also raising money for the Amazon Rainforest. We're giving a bunch of money to Amazon Watch based on priority on messages and merch sales. So if you'd like to support that cause

and also taking a great night of comedy, greatestjentour.com. The Here's to the final crew of the US, and the prize, Power of God. Power of God. Power of God. Power of God. Power of God. Power of God.

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Power of God. Power of God. Power of God. We did not time our walk well. That's nice. Welcome to the greatest generation of Star Trek Podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed. They have a Star Trek Podcast.

I'm Van Harrison. I'm Adam Prantica. You're milking it, Adam. I wanted to wait until your applause was fully gone. I wanted to know that those claps were for me. I like that we built our names into the role in package so that we could get a plasas for our names two times before we even start doing anything. I want all the pops tonight. Hey, what's up Washington DC?

That's an easy pop right there. That is an easy pop. Thank you for coming out. We got all of our friends of DeSoto in the house. Adam, I want to, our precursor to Starfleet, the Space Force. No. The other day. Is that the thing already? I actually went to NASA, which is the real precursor to Starfleet.

And I got to take a tour of the Goddard NASA thing. Is this going to be one of those things for you like show me your slides from vacation? If you insist. Let's see this first slide. You're really going to do this, aren't you? This is so dumb. There's me and there's me and listener, at the largest clean room in North America. What is this face that you're making?

It's like this room, hella clean. It looks like you're clenching on something. You know I'm always clenching on something. Let's see the next one. So, AJ works in climate science. always clinging on something. Let's see the next one. So AJ works in climate science. Uh, still clinging on this one. This is some kind of satellite that they're

going to put in outer space to take pictures of something. But, uh, but yeah, AJ works in like he's developed a tool to discover how much carbon and methane are in the atmosphere and specifically I'm gonna guess a lot he can tell the difference between like your farts and a cow's farts with his instrument no one can tell the difference between those two I that's what I said man I thought that was pretty amazing like science has really gotten along my hair. Can I put a pause on this story for a second?

I know you have a thing. I don't have a thing. And I don't mean to stop you. Do you want me to go? This is the first time this has happened to me on the flight out here. The person in the seat next to me, middle seat person, I'm a window man. I think everyone knows this. I'm an Ileman and that's why we get along so well. Right. The middle seat had a cat. Wow! And a cat

carrier. And this cat was so they bought a seat for their cat. No this was a stowed under the seat in front of them. Oh. cat. Oh, so there was a person in the seat and a cat under the seat We got through five hours of this flight without anyone knowing a cat had been there But as soon as the plane came around on short final The cat knew what was on its way home and became extremely comfortable And dropped a shit that was so notches It was incredible. It was so bad and everyone in Everyone in eight rows next to us was like

Grabbing for the bag It was in my Eyes and my mouth Eight rose next to us was like grabbing for the bag. He was in my, no, in my eyes and my mouth. Yeah. He was awful. So anyway, that's how I want to interrupt you. No. No. Now you know what it's like to share an elevator with you.

Could this thing detect the difference between CatShit and CowShit? Hey, G.C. It was pretty smart. I think it probably could. Let's see the next picture. Then he took me out to this site where he was like, this is a little off of the Goddard campus, but there's like a radio telescope there, and he's like, this is all like the off-book stuff that NASA does. And I was like, OK, I'd seen AJ at a live show before. But at this point, to me, AJ is a stranger

from the internet still. The trailer told me that this was off-book. This looks like where they shot a rival, the Charlie Sheen movie. Yeah. It was the movie crossover event of a rival meets deliverance. Yeah. Next slide, please, Rob. We got to see where Darth Vader hangs out with his helmet off.

What's inside that thing? Seriously. I have no idea. Probably like I'll have later tells you something. You didn't have like clearance to know? I was surprised we were there in the first place, but he keeps telling me like, there's this basement room that we really want to get. And so, there's no such thing as a story that ends well after that.

I know, like it's right, like we have made jokes about this, man, AJ already. Would you help me move my tollish group down into the basement? I get this creepy tollish group. Rob, please show the next slide. Yeah. So that's why I only have one of my kidneys. Why did you wear the white shirt? Wow. Wow, you lived to tell the tale. Yeah. What was down there? It was just a dank room that needed to be, like,

a unified, yeah. Wow. Yeah. So that was much like AJ gives great tour. Yeah, gives great tour. He bought me some very nice grilled chicken at a Peruvian chicken place. It was awesome.

Woo! I think that was a bigger pop for Peruvian chicken than for NASA. Ha! Ha! Ha! Yeah, well, I mean, like one thing has actually done something to like advance our knowledge of what's delicious. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! They would love to- Maybe, maybe, stop doing poop science and get into the chicken game.

Yeah. You taste how good this is? Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, step doing poop science and get into the chicken game. Yeah. You taste how good this is? It's because of the grill marks, dude. But we didn't come here to talk about NASA. We came here to talk about things in the future, right Adam? I mean, we could. We could.

We brought all the things. We brought the drops. We did bring the drops. We brought the drops. We did bring the drops. We brought the bells. We did bring the bells. Let's talk about these bells for a second. So, uh, by all means. Have a drink.

Get comfortable. When we edit an episode, we add a little ding sound effects. When a phrase seems funny enough to be the title of the episode. But on live shows, we attempt to live-ding the title. So at some point tonight, we will find out what the title of whatever this is, is. And that will take the form of a- So that's what those are there for. It's worked every time.

Yeah. I don't see it not happening here Yeah, I'd say that there was like one at least one show last year where it didn't work Is anyone having a hard time with this? This is what we look like My favorite is when people are like him and I knew what you guys look like but I had the voices reversed at every show People are like, yeah, I mean, I knew what you guys looked like, but I had the voices reversed. And every show. And I never know how to take that.

Every time I take it as an insult, I know I shouldn't. It's like both, I guess, very high compliment and also very insulting. Someone comes up to us after every show and is like, wow, so this is you guys. Weird. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. We're going to talk about a motion picture, name of Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan, tonight.

Has everyone done their homework? Has anyone not seen the movie by a show of hands? We got a couple. Okay, well, okay. Has anyone never seen the movie by a show of hands? We got a couple. Okay, well, okay. I just, I just gonna be present. Has anyone never heard a greatest Gen show? Oh, a couple of hands, a couple of hands go up.

That's great. A lot of, a lot of couples where one of them was dragged along by the other. A lot of dutiful spouses. Ha, ha, ha. by the other. A lot of dutiful spouses. But yeah, so what do you say we get into this, huh? All right, let's do what we came here to do. We are going to now review for you, Star Trek 2, the Wrath of Khan. But it usually works. We brought all the interstitials to drink during.

So we haven't seen the crew of the original series Enterprise in quite a long time. Some people haven't seen them at all because they avoided watching the first movie. Yeah. But you know, when you're the outgoing crew of the flagship, what you do is all retired all at once and become instructors at Starfleet Academy. That's actually not true because Chekhov is still a commissioned officer with a gig. He didn't get to stay on the enterprise though. He's like, they're like, yeah, we'll make it first officer or something. Not this though.

Check out still seems like he's trying though. This is like a puffy tap gun. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a big scene because we get to see the kind of out with the old of... The old is definitely not out in this film. I mean, we talk about this in the right, because this movie was coming out and it leaked that a beloved main cast character was going to die in this film. And they rewrote the beginning to throw people off the scent of who that might be. But just cool, right? Because I feel like things leak online all the time now and people look for the leaks

and some people like, I don't want to know anything. It's normally a really bad sign if a film is being written on set. But the idea that they were writing this scene at the audience is pretty great. It's great and it's also like, I don't know, it's a great head fan. Let's see the scene that we are talking about. I'll learn Plank on Torpedoes, make a video. I'll learn. A Vase of Action. Action

Engineering damage report She'll collapse Community theater doesn't usually have this much pyro. Right in the back. You know, Metallica had to cancel a tour for that amount of pyro. Ben, if you were to land on an original series crew person, like head and lap. Yeah. Who's lap would you choose? Like from softest to firmest.

I'm deforest Kelly and I know that my character is going down close to the end. Now everybody knows that Sulu has the hardest body of anybody in the original series cast. What DeForest Kelly presupposes is, maybe that lap is pretty comfortable. Maybe DeForest Kelly doesn't do it for him. Yeah, I feel like Sulu might have been like, come on man, get the fuck off of me. Fucking neat business. I'm not coughing. I'm fucking neat, this is it. We also get to meet Savvick, introducing Kirstie Allie, right? Right.

She got the space and she was like, I like it here. I'm gonna stay. Is there a volcano I could shoot these torpedoes into? Oh, we can have that drop, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, prescientology, K, right? Yeah. Yeah. Pre-Sci-Intology, Kristie Ali. Yeah. Yeah. And she is testing on the Kobayashi Maru test. And it's a tough situation. We've seen all these characters die, and then the lights go up and the view screen opens like a huge door and in walks, Ponchi Kirk, Dean of Savak. He's like, is

the fog machine gonna cover up these hair plugs. More fog. But- You look great, though. This is like, this is the apotheosis of hero shots. Totally. Like, it's perfectly framed. If you're going to introduce your movie's central badass, like, no better way to do it than slide open the view screen and have them backlit like this, like, it's like, yeah!

Yeah! do it then slide open the view screen and have them backlit like this. It's like, yeah! It's cool, but it does not make a ton of sense that all of these very capable officers would be sidelined in this way. Like, oh yeah, we just all instructed the academy now. You don't take them off the board unless there was a scandal, right? You know there was a scandal. The only other headganan I can come up with is like, one thing about that bridge is that everything is like meticulously labeled.

Like there's a no smoking sign on that bridge. And there's like a sign on, there's like, you know, the scene, the sign you see on like, P.F. Changs, it says, please wait to be seated. There's like a sign on, there's like, you know, the scene, the sign you see on like PF Changs, it says, please wait to be seated. There's like one of those. I don't go to that fucking place, you serious? Specificity, I don't know. Whatever.

But it says like, it says like no on, unauthorized access to the simulator. Yeah. Like maybe the Kobayashi Maru is like such a big secret that you need like really high level officers to administer it so that the secret doesn't get out. I would have loved a like five second shot of Kirstie Ali like stamping out a cigarette but before going in. Just chain smoking future parliaments. That would have been pretty cool.

We do catch up with Chekhov though. He is stationed on Starship Reliant. He's the first officer and the reliant captained by Clark Tarell, aka Daethan, aka Darmak and Jalad. A.K.A. Dathan, A.K.A. Darmak and Jalad. They're a liar being a del soul-class starship. Yeah, they're looking for a dead planet, a planet that is totally lifeless. And not even one life.

Right, like if there's any hint of life, like that's bad news, right? Like they call up, they call up the scientists lady and they say like, hey, like we think that there might just be like something caught in one of the sensors. We don't think that there's any chance that there's life down there, but like if there is, we'll just transplant it for you. And she's like, no, you gotta be sure. And so the captain and the first officer of the reliant and only the captain and

first officer of the reliant beam down to this planet that they are meant to survey just to check things out. They're gonna they're gonna leave the planetary survey to the two highest names on the org chart. Check off on Tareller like should we wear the suits with the handles? Yeah. We should probably wear the suits with the handles, right? It's very convenient if anybody needs to pick you up. What about a helmet big enough for something to be put into it?

And 80s hair. I feel like this is the helmet that war for me in the last movie that we did. Hard to agree. Yeah, big, you know, the Bob fits right under that. But so they beam down there, right? And they do find something that indicates life. And that is like a couple of semi-abandoned looking trailer homes. Kind of looks like that fuel trip you took earlier. Not dissimilar.

Looks like they were watering the grass out there but not a lot of love for those trailers. No. I mean it's very lush and vibrant around DC. So they, I mean, not in DC obviously, because the swamp has been drained. Hey, is by show of hands anyone in the house currently under investigation? Yeah, quite a few. Are there any fat cats in the house? Anybody that makes room like deals in back rooms while smoking cigars.

You guys can get your summons on your way out to the merch table. That might have happened to us while we're on stage, right? You've been served. from. Yeah, that was a slow burn. They go into these trailers and they do find more than signs of life, right? I believe we have a clip, Adam. every single iron-ran book is on that shelf I'm not. He's got to get out of the gift now. They bought their seat belts on eBay. There's no way to know if they're safety rated. This is an argument my wife and I are always getting into.

I personally believe I'm a setty alpha six. She will tell. I personally believe I'm a setty alpha six. She will tell you and anyone else I'm a setty alpha five. I try to have conversations like that with your wife. So why is she always bringing it up? What's Adam's dick like? We'll get censored on iTunes. We'll get censored. I think we can do better. I think we can do better.

Also what my wife says. That's fucking teamwork right there. So the residents of these... That was like the California games of dingues. We were keeping that hacky sack up in the air. Yeah. The residents of these shipping containers come back, and among them is Connunian Singh, a villain from some episode of TOS, I guess.

An experience that Chekhov couldn't possibly understand because he wasn't on the show. Did you do research for this, Adam? I did the bare minimum because you want to know why I don't want to be accosted in the meet and greet after the show by a super fan. That is fair enough. So he was not on the program at the time of Space seed. He was not. We've been doing that way too much in public. was not. I mean, we've been doing that way too much in public. Here's my head, Canon.

He worked on the ship, but we just hadn't seen one of his shifts yet. So maybe he was like in the- He was real low level. He was in the galley, like eating a bowl of cereal or something, and like, con and his- You think they get the Russian and the galley making dumplings for the crew? Do you think that's what's happening?

Maybe, yeah. He makes a mean perroge. I'm ready to believe that. I feel like Chekhov could be pretty awesome in the kitchen, TBH. I don't know if there's any like canonical check-off cooking, but I'd be curious. We would have to watch more than two episodes

of the original series to know. Both of us are unwilling to do that. Yeah. But Con has a lot of anger surrounding what happened to him, right? And justifiable anger. Justifiable anger, because he was left on a pretty good planet, but it got knocked out of its orbit

when a pretty bad planet blew up, and now it's a dump and... No water? Wait until you see the pool. But the right people get that reference. But the whole thing is that Admiral Galk is a war criminal. He says he's sitting at a 45, but he says he's at the Alpha 6. Those are leadership actors. Oh, man.

We don't let that go all the way to the end. Sometimes we do finish a music band. It's not advisable, but he picks up check-up. I think we pay off check off by the by the handle And then they and then they reveal what that was crawling around under that sand and it's the city eel the only remaining Indigenous life form on the planet which has the unmistakable

Similar unmistakable similarities to nub and bugs unmistakable similarities to Nebun Bugs. Con mentions of hand how these things had wiped out a bunch of the remaining crew on the planet. Is someone not shutting the door to the trailer? How do those things get inside? I would love to see the dead con that's like really, he's always on the thermostat

like adjusting it. Somebody comes in without closing the door., like adjusting it, like somebody comes in without closing the door, and he's like, where do you born in a barn? Oh, no. From Hell's Bar and I stab at thee. Oh, no. You get what you deserve if you don't close the front door

to that thing. Yeah. But they drop the babies of this this species if they go in your ear they make you very suggestible and and they Suggest that they will be dropping some babies into check-off and Daethan's ears and I believe we have a clip of that Come this

These are pets of course This helmet is pretty big, you could have put the full size one. I don't know how they do that special effect. That's amazing to me. This special effect I know all about, it's just a real big ear. This isn't just scary for 1982. This is scary now. It's contemporary scary.

Like, Star Trek First Contact got a PG-13 rating, and this didn't. Yeah. How was that possible? That little critter licked him on the earlobe before it went in. That was a non-consensual lick. That's at least got to get you PG-13.

Just that. Like, those giant rubber ears are like one of my favorite things in movie history Just because of how like like the special effect right before that of the bug creeping across check-out face is like A miracle like it's a fake thing that looks like it's really crawling on his face and then they cut to giant rubber ear like man like I think you should have just left the ear out just cut to them screaming in their helmets and we don't see the bugs anymore you know I

One of my favorite photographs of all time is the Is the picture of Hitchcock when they shot dial M for murder. It was a 3D film shot in, like, back in the day on film. And so the only way to get, like, a macro shot of the finger going in and dialing M on the phone is to make a giant phone and a giant, like, rubber finger just sticking it. And so there's this amazing picture of Hitchcock like leaning over the phone, just like kind of like

Hitchcocking out. And I always just picture it. I don't think he calls it that. Just shattering or in me moi leaning on a giant ear together. Like, hey buddy. Do you think you took the ear home after the shoot? I would have that thing on my wall, man. Did that thing ever reach the auction?

Like they, all the time they had these scar trick auctions, you think they auctioned off the ear? I'm sure it caught fire in like 1987. After somebody tried to like free-base off the bed. Or something. I'm sorry. Every joke I do, I feel guilty because we're doing this in a house of worship. But in a way, so is our show.

Yeah. That's the end of Act One, Adam. Do you want to break into the next act? Okay. So they call up Genesis, the Genesis project from the reliant, now that Khan knows all about Genesis and Chekhov and Captain Deython are under his sway and Chekhov gets on the FaceTime with these folks and it seems a little weird. I believe we have a clue. This is USS Reliant. Commander, we are receiving. This is regular one, though.

Did someone ask for arms? Are you guys watching the gun show? Because it's over here. I'll route why. We weren't expecting you for another three months. Has something happened? Nothing has happened. CTL-F6 says, checked out.

And I don't understand why you're coming. We have received new orders. Upon arrival at regular one, all materials are screened. This is going to be transferred to here. Good luck. For immediate testing on CD Alpha 6, who will not help? I'm going to make a report.

They all have to be quiet. Commander check up. This is the right. I think I, with the arms, just starts flexing. I'll come under a check-up. This is- I think I would be arms just starts flexing. I knew something was up right away because no one's ever that happy to talk to me on the phone.

I would suspect something. It's too much weird. This movie really flips a deeply carved Star Trek trope on its head, and that there's an older lady scientist with a young, fuckable male assistant. They did it the one time, and never again. A couple years later, when they were starting TNG and like pitches for scripts started to go around, they're like, okay, so there's like an older lady scientist, I'm gonna stop you right there.

We do- We do derivative, honestly. We do crusty dude scientists, and only crusty dude scientists on this show. But this announcement that the genesis project is going to be kind of summarily seized by Starfleet really pisses these people off. And this introduces a really nice tension between like science and military. Right, which like really fleshes out some of the world, like the idea that the federation and Starfleet, like what how do those things interact? How do these people think of themselves?

Right. And David Marcus is like a really, like, stridently anti-military dude. He does not like that old Boy Scout, James T. Kirk. He's super suspicious of being involved with Starfleet in any way. And that's like, how many times in Streck have we met people like that? Like the people that live in the Federation that don't dig starfully?

His mom's been programming him. This anti-starfully bias. But she's like, but she's pro-curk. Oh, she's real pro-curk. I mean, like, yeah. So admiral Kirk with all these cadets are on the shakedown cruise with the Enterprise, like they're just like piloting it around the neighborhood, right, with all these like young kids that don't know what they're doing.

Yeah, there's like a steering wheel at every station, like a driver's-ed car. Yeah, the the the passenger side brake pedal Like a real real give-all but But Carol Marcus blows in a call to Kirk that's like hey like why are you taking my science experiment away from me? And he goes to talk to Spock and he's like hey, so I think we probably got to go look into this because of the highly sensitive nature of this science experiment. And these people saying that I gave this order

that I don't remember giving. Yeah. This is a great example of teaching the characters to teach the viewer. Yeah. And Kirk is like, so I'll be just hanging out in my room. You're the captain, you do the thing. And Spock is like, no, man, you're the senior officer.

And I think you should be the captain on this one. So he's back in the saddle, baby. Spock has no vanity about this at all. Yeah, I mean, he says this much. He's a vulcan. He doesn't have feelings like that. Yeah. He's a pretty great friend.

Yeah. But so they've got to know. I mean, is there any length he wouldn't go as a friend? I think that's very much in question at this point in the film. Shit dog. But so they have to go look into this and spark his like, hey man, like I want to go help you find your Sega Genesis or whatever, but I don't understand why we're using the flagship to do it.

And he's like, oh no, no, it's something different. It's just called, and so Kirk wants to show Spock and check out the YouTube video about what Genesis is. There's like a 30 second credit card ad before, before they see the Carol Marcus dissertation Yeah, and sparkers like actually it's like pretty much worth it to spend the 10 bucks a month to get the ad Staking off. I mean look have you ever had lounge access at an airport. It's pretty nice Pretty nice great

It amortizes nicely through travel quite a bit For bathroom reasons alone, there you are. But Kirk has to do the retinal scan to get in, and I believe we have a clip of that. The request, security procedure, an access to project Janice Summary. Identify for retinal scan. Kirk, Admiral James T. LAUGHTER Security, set, approve.

Now, William Shadner is famously fain. Yeah. Why would he allow that screen grab? To be used for that. Bill, we want you to kind of think about nothing for this. Or if not nothing, something very dumb. This is one of those examples of like Star Trek predicting the technology future. Like the idea of unlocking something with your face is a thing that those of us who are wealthy can enjoy right now.

That's true. It doesn't even take as long as engaged security protocol, Captain James Kirk T or whatever. Yeah, why is he talking? The computer's asking for a retinal scan. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, if you have an iPhone X, you can unlock it with your face right now. And it's very quick and easy.

And I get to say, Ben, you should really talk because your unlock face is not great. Just clear your mind. I was thinking about something very dumb when I set that phone up. I didn't know that you were thinking about something even dumber though Adam when you set your phone up. Oh Siri. She's super generous. Yeah. I like that it's also pixelated.

You know how like in the Magic Wand Tool and Photoshop, like it sometimes cannot grab the edge of a thing? Clearly that did not grab an edge of a thing. Are my graphic professionals in the house? We do get a rundown of what Genesis is, and it's a missile that you can shoot at a planet or any mass of matter, and it will rearrange that matter into a planet that has life growing on it. It's life-generative properties, are the main thing about it, and their idea is,

this is a overpopulation solution, which is when this movie came out, the One Child Policy in China like a pretty new thing. Like the population bomb was like a major thing in the news and major like thing in the zeitgeist. And this movie is like, I think that's what this is talking about. But like, bones is like freaking out about,

you know, like he sees the potential negative uses of this right away and it's gonna put him out of a job is what I think. It's interesting though that Spock is like, yeah, like it'll kill everybody on a planet if you shot it at the planet and he's like, ah, you know what, I kill everybody on a planet, dude. It's like I'm not passing judgment on killing up

everybody on a planet, dude. It sounds like I'm not passing judgment on killing up everybody on a planet, I'm merely stating. Why aren't, he's like the concern troll of the future. It's like life is totally replaceable in impermanence. This is something I plan on proving a little later on. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, But so that's the McGuffin. We actually get the explanation of what the McGuffin is, and we're headed out to regular

one to get it so that it doesn't fall into the wrong ends. I really feel like there's a market for this missile, right? Yeah. Like outside of its clear military use, I feel like it has an application for the man about town who wants to either repopulate something as large as a planet or a space roughly the size of like 50 yards by 50 yards. Maybe in a semi-malibu configuration. Like maybe if he really missed his wife. Director Marcus, if there's some sort of waiting list, there's technology.

I want to be first. This is not some kind of corporate espionage thing. I'm just getting pretty tired of like keeping two things in my mind. I'm keeping the Rishan doll, animate and aware, but also trying to ignore the fact that I know that she's fake. And if I could just have a bit of Malibu and Rasan back to myself and not have to be kind of... It's the cognitive dissonance that I'm trying to do away with. Luke, I don't want to be a preblem customer. And the cognitive dissonance, not as a dunk on Deanna Troy,

who is trying to shut this awful music out of her mind right now. I understand that is very painful for her. Many people buy generic. I want Malibu only. You got a little ring me is in there. I did. So they head out to regular one, which is where the Genesis project is. On their way out there, they run into a familiar ship, right? This is one of those classic like jeep passing another jeep

on the highway like given the flashers or like the the what's up I've never owned a jeep I don't know what you do to another cheap person. I like you you just like give it one of those. My- Yeah jeep right? Cool. Is that the renegade? My version of that? My parents, the Rubicon. Rubicon, yeah. That's out.

My parents had the first, or no, the second model year of the Prius. And when I would, like, borrow Dad's car to like go do an errand or whatever, like the number of like super like bought in eco guys that would like give me the thumbs up from their other Prius like at the intersection was like, I like every intersection, because I was in the Bay area like it was just relentless and I was like I'm like I'm also pro environment but I am not on whatever team you're on, dude. Did anyone ever get in your car?

I think you were a lift. That didn't exist, man. That didn't exist. Did anyone want to get in your car because they wanted to? No. That was a very late bloomer, man. I know. Me too.

I heard a laugh from the crowd from a friend that I know who knew me in junior high and high school. Who knows that to be true. But I've got dirt on you too, man! Let's see these ships meeting each other in space Adam They still haven't raised their shields Their shields are going up like faces Lucking faces on time. Longing faces. Break it. Fire!

Fire! Fire! Bangers left and right. We've seen that targeted on an enterprise before. That's the grondole of the enterprise, right? Very sensitive, very sensitive. As soon as you hit in between the cell and the body, that's where you're powdering that up

before you go out on a trip around the galaxy, right? Yeah, you don't want drive section itch. You don't want to buy an anti-fungal cream for the lower section of your ship. Can we talk about Joaquin's line reading on the, on the shield raising? Everything about Joaquin's performance and the framing of Joaquin in every shot is perfect. He is the, he's my favorite part of this film. He's fucking great. He fucking steals the show.

It's like he's going for commercial work after this film. Like, Khan is literally like pelvic thrusting fire and Joaquin is in the background like being amazing. Being distractingly amazing. This is it. Like, I think that there was a little bit of a missed opportunity in this scene because they spent a lot of time talking about

There's a bunch of cadets on this ship and then they get out there and the reliant is behaving in a way that is not like Standard Starfleet procedure and Savak is like hey like like guidelines and they in the rule books say put the shields up like go to go to an alerts data I said Kirk is like pipe down. You don't know anything. But then when they start getting shot, we don't get any of the panic of like, I've never actually done this for real before. I've only done Kobayashi Maru hangs.

And I think that would add to the scene, this is a ship that is being run by cadets. They're not battle hardened the way the crew of the original series is. That's a great point because they only turn the cadet status into a positive in Savick. She's by the book and that's great. She recently read the drivers manual. It should be a total liability at every station on the ship.

Right, just from a not having a muscle memory thing. And also, this bridge has far fewer labels, so it would be very confusing. People are openly smoking on the bridge. Like, I didn't see a sign. This is cool, right? I can seat myself then. So the only way they get out of this is that the, you know, Khan gets on the screen and

he's like kind of gloating over his victory and he's like, I wanted to let you know that I was the one that killed you. And now, like, you know, past, you know, send me everything you have on the Genesis project and they do the thing where they're like, you know, talking off-mic to each other ends. I'm like, like, punch in the code to his luggage and let's fucking shoot this asshole. They pan from Kirk back to the Turbo Lift and Scotty is like trading the weight of his nephew on both arms like, like, where do you want me to put this again? So just in the freezer or something? He is in so much trouble with the sister also.

Yeah. So they catch the, the reliant with their pants down. They battle it to a draw and the ships drift apart in space. And then the door does open on the table. It's got, he's like, hey, this did not go great. But then the next scene is he's taking that kid to sick bay and he's like on the slab going like, what happened? Scottie, you like if he's still alive, like time is everything right now, it's like having a stroke. Like when he comes up to the bridge, like the

kid is covered in hamburger meat, and it's just like, that guy is dead. And then you see that he's alive, like two seconds later, he's like, are we sure that it's his own internal organs or is it the polis sausage that everyone wears for rations on their engineering uniform? Oh, it's hard, just got all over. I can see that being very confusing.

But the ships are fought to a stalemate and drifting apart in space. And we break in to Act 3. They get to regular one and it is a fucking blood bath. It is a predator-two-style skinned bodies strung up from the ceiling and again, regular regular PG Like they've turned the no bloody PG 13. No bloody are Plane old PG 13 Yeah, it's they have turned these squeaky clean starbase into an abattoir and there's like There's like the no signs of life on regular one until they open the offset smoker that can't stuff to check off and to rel into.

You want a low and slow face too. Check out, if your meat is positively falling off the bone, delicious. delicious. They do recommend a vinegar sauce or something a little sweeter. They kind of present themselves as okay, except when everyone doesn't look at them. Right, yeah. Like when they're speaking, they can act normal. But then when the question goes to the other one, they turn to the camera. Whenever my wife is telling me about her day, that got an ooo from the crowd.

That was a real slam dunk contest, kind of reaction. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you hit the three on his wife. But they, you know, they get the news from Cheghov and Tyrell that it is Khan. It's Khan's buddies. They're back, and they're very angry at Kirk. And then they kind of work out like, oh, everybody

probably beamed down to the regular asteroid, which phase two of the Genesis project is to test this, like rewriting the matrix on the inside of a dead asteroid. So they test this theory out by all beaming down together. And there's a great little Star Trek fight where David Marcus like jumps out and tries to beat up Kirk and he's like, not kidding. That's not going to happen to them. Kirk's don't use knives. They use fists held together like this. And he does.

Really puts him down. Yeah, it's like, Courks, like, they spend so much time talking about Kirk being old at the beginning of this movie, which I think is a real like Hollywood in its bubble going like he's 50 years old, like, can't put a 50 year old person as the leading man of a film? He's so old! I mean, I guess what we're gonna do, we just have to talk about how old he is the entire time. It doesn't seem like he would have a lot of range of motion with the Starfleet cowachan

that he's wearing. But he kicks ass. He totally does. with the Starfleet Cowichan that he's wearing. But he kicks ass in these days. He totally does. And I think this scene maybe is him just making the case for I'm gonna play this character for another 30 years. Is this the best jacket in Starfleet ever? Yeah, they were selling one at a Star Trek last Vegas

for like $2,000 and I was like, maybe. I would love for us to go on vacation, but this jacket. No, I mean, we got to eat rice and beans again tonight. I'm saving up. A tour, kind of a wash. We got to eat rice and beans again, too. I'm saving up. Tour, kind of a wash. I don't know if you saw the jacket. In that way, it came out ahead a big way.

But yeah, the other thing that happens in this scene is that the nub and bugs start to wear off. There's the confrontation where Torell kind of announces that Kirk and Geng are totally screwed. I think we should take a look at a clip of that. Is that David? Mother, he killed everybody we left behind. Well, of course he didn't. David, you're just making this harder. I'm afraid it's even harder than you think, Doctor.

Please. What's that gonna pan down to his dick? That is a pornographic line of dialogue. Sorry. Was that gonna pan down to his dick? That is a pornographic line of dialogue. Sorry, man. Your ex-lancy, have you been missing? Smartwatches get way worse in the future. Oh, God.

You have done well. You, you son of a bitch! A-ha! Killed Wilbur and Valder Ramon, the gore setting. You get a punch it up to goor up those arms, right? Yeah. But they take out Captain Tarell and then the nub-in bug, like seeing the writing on the wall, quits check-offs here.

Like, I gotta get the fuck outta here. So we go back to another close. like, I got to get the fuck out of here. So we go back to another close. It's got a cardboard box of brainstem. Ha ha ha ha. No, this is, no, these posters are mine. I actually brought this stem from home. This is from home. Ha ha ha ha.

And they phased their that. So they're kind of on to con now. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. This is remote. And they phaser that. And they phaser that. And they phaser that. So they're kind of on to con now. So they're kind of on to con now. They know that the con was behind the whole thing. But they don't have any way to prevent con from beaming up the genesis device and the

jambi box that controls it. Which the scientists probably should not have kept together like like the Jambi box another unlabeled piece of equipment maybe leave it on the station like you know they don't know what it is yeah I mean you don't want to you want to keep your ammunition and your gun separate right it's just good safety safety practice but yeah so they they're kind of screwed, right? They're, they're marooned. The enterprises in orbit somewhere, but it is badly out of shape. They transmit a little code about this, but then they, they have some time to kill, so they go hang out in the

Genesis cave. Just going to eat some apples in the Genesis cave. Hey, can I just take any apple I want? It's probably what Kirk's asking, right? Do we, I think we have a clip of that, right? Am I wrong? No. Oh, yeah.

We have a clip of them being angry about that. Not expecting you to be alive, frankly. I'd defy anyone to tell me that that is not the funniest line read in that scene. I feel like Nicholas Meyer on set every day was like, take all the time you need. Really relish in these moments. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall in Shatner's trailer when he realized that Kirk was going to individually disagree with every single word in Concettance. He's so great. He's amazing. I don't think it gets said enough.

He is fantastic in this movie. He really is. And the scene in the Genesis cave is like his tour de force because it is all like it is Amazing amount of character building that happens in one apple eat and scene where like you know Kirstie always still there and she's like she's like listen guys I know that our ship we just got the drop on our ship and we're marooned on this rock and space But I am dying to know how to pass that test back at school marooned on this rock in space, but I am dying to know how to pass that test back at school.

And so we find out the Kurt cheated on Kobayashi Maru. We also find out about how because David Marcus, the kid that tried to beat him up, is his son. Carol Marcus is David Marcus mother and she asked Kirk to stay out of their lives. And he did. He did. Like, he's like a, it's in that. It's in that. It's in that. It's in that unhealthy depiction of like a little bit of a broken family. Right.

Like, they knew ahead of time that they had pretty incompatible lifestyles and that there wasn't going to be enough change Like they weren't neither of them going to be capable of enough change to meet in the middle somewhere And so they just made like a rational decision about that which like you know what I love is so hard for for this scene to exist where you don't Wind up hating Kirk at the end. Right. How did they do that? It's a magic trick. I'll tell you how they do it, though,

because Carol never puts his balls on the fire in that face time about the Genesis weapon. It's totally professional in that conversation. Yeah. She's like, fuck you for trying to take the missile from me. She's never, and also fuck you for not being on time with your child support. Like, she never makes it personal like that.

And I think that only does Kirk a favor as a character. Right. I mean, it makes her a really interesting character that had the strength to say, I don't think that you and I can make this work, but I want to raise this child. That's really interesting. And Kirk's performance as Kirk in this scene is also amazing because it's this, like Channers' performance has curriculum this scene, is also amazing,

because it's this, like, I'm a cheater, and I also wasn't really in my child's life and agreed to be isolated from my child in a way that is, like, a little weird, frankly. But you're, like, this is, like, part of what makes me a hero, somehow. LAUGHTER Like, it's funny funny but it works. I don't know why it works. He should be so

hateable right now. Yeah like the like math problem of the scene. Yeah. Like it's like just filling up every green chalkboard in the in the university and it's still somehow. It's great. It's amazing. Well, that is the end of that act, and we're on into the next. He cheated. I don't believe in a note when the scenario,

he cheated, cheated, changed the position of the test. I don't like the ladies. Turns out the enterprise was not as beat up as they led everybody listening into their radio transmissions believe Scott is just shoving bodies into compartments to like make electrical connections How the positive did I see your sister later? We know do we cut back to engineering in this film after that initial attack?

I don't think we do. I mean, I think we do either. I was very curious about that engineering where they've like turned the warp engine on its side. Like, do you think it's one of those public bathrooms that like the door closes and it automatically cleans itself? Like, the blast door comes down and all the blood is just magically washed off of every panel. Yes, I think that's...

Also, like every public bathroom? That I've ever used? Gross. I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You want me to vamp? No, I'm good. I think I can hold out. This isn't a bucket, Shopein.

So they get this idea. We're going to make this work by retreating to the Mutara Nebula. There's a nearby Nebula that will wipe out sensors. It will degrade the effectiveness of these ships enough that will be on fairly even footing. And we actually know how to fly starships unlike the con gang or whatever you call it. The super humans, I don't know, what do they call it?

Do they have a name in Space Seed? No. Okay. Do they? Yeah, no. Yeah. Anyways, those guys that like to rubble out of arm butter all over themselves will be on fairly even footing with them.

So they bug out to the Mutara Nebula and And this is this is a moment where Joachim like he's been kind of riding for like screw Kirk like we have a starship Let's go let's go have starship adventures, which is a show I would totally watch but But Khan is like is a But Khan is like, he's on a revenge spree and Kirk is the target of that revenge. Like he does not feel like his job at regular is done until Kirk is dead. So the enterprise heads for this nebula and Joaquin is like, dude, let's just walk away man. We don't need to pick this fight and that's not what Khan is about. And so they follow him in and um... Khan is low-key not Khan.

Joaquin is low-key the smartest guy in his crew. Yeah. Like he should be the captain. He sees it coming from a mile away too. Like he's riding for that point of view from the jump. How does Joaquin know how to do anything on that ship also? Well they're all like super intelligent right? Just Khan is the super intelligent. He's like the guy who gets the VCR

and knows how to program it right away. Yeah, I love the conceit of like, these people are super intelligent, but also believe in a kind of monarchy style of government. Like Conn has been in charge forever and will be in charge forever. It seems weird, right? That is, that's like number five on the list of weird things

about him and that group. But in the Muta Renebula, this turns into a really awesome sub-brain movie. Yeah, like if you don't like Star Trek films, you might like a submarine film. Yeah. And this is the part of it that it totally tibits into it. The idea is that they have no sensors. They can't see anything on the view screen. They can't get a position on the other ship. So there's this amazing sequence of special effects

where the ships are like going through the clouds and like you see them passing over each other, the light shining through. It's really like some of the most stunning special effects stuff in the movie. But we also see what they're trying to see on the view screens. And that kind of is illustrative of how crippled they are. So I believe we have a clip of that. of that. Tactical.

Inoperative. Still on the wall. Totally scrambled. I'm not sure. Is that fair to her? Not functional. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Mm-hmm. I would direct your attention to the location. That's fun. My wife is Jewish and I was texting her pictures of the space before the show. If she knew what we were doing in here right now.

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Did you learn that today on your tour? You learned what a Z-axis was at NASA? Yeah. It was a, it was a consolation for not showing me the sets where they shout the Apollo landing. We're a sound stage away from Space Force, aren't we? Not a bad point. But there's a, you know, the scene where the giant foam girder falls on walking was in there.

That's really sad. Is girder falling on important person a trope? I love it every time. You're right. I love it every time. Did you get the sense that Joaquin played by Judson Scott was brandoing in that moment? Yes, you know what I didn't think about it

until you brought it up, but yeah, I do. I think that's, yeah. Cause like, I mean, like they come fast and furious at this point in the film because I mean, like they, so almost everybody on the rely on is dead, but Khan has the zombie box up on the bridge and he like does all the beeps and boops to turn it on and he set the genesis device to go off and it's a suicide mission now. Like, it's on the reliant, he's setting it off, but the enterprise doesn't have warp speed, so they can't close the distance between the kill radius

of the reliant and safe space, fast enough. And David Marcus is up on the bridge to talk to him through this. He's there to genesis, explain them. He does not have his confident sweater wrapped around his neck. Yeah, that got blown off in one of the bangs. It's the sweater of deep pessimism. It just got tied around there.

Yeah, but, you know, they're talking through the math of this and they're like, it doesn't work. Like, we are done. Like, there's no way to escape this. And this is a movie about no-win situations. Like, and it's about Kirk not believing in no-win situations. And they kind of abandoned hope here. And wordlessly, they just kind of all look at each other and digest the fact that this is it.

David Marcus is like, you know, dad, you can't escape me either. I'm right here. I exist. Look at this. This is you. This is your fault. I hate you. And...

And also wordlessly spot gets up and excuses himself from the bridge. There's a lot of non-verbal stuff happening here. There's the defeat of a David Marcus going, we're kind of fucked, like fuck shoulders. There's the empty chair that Spock leaves. Which is like super wrinkly because the set department didn't do a great job with the upholstery on the bridge. That's why you don't smoke on the bridge. The upholstery gets all fucked up.

Everyone's it. Yeah. But Spak goes down, he kind of barges through engineering, he goes into the phone booth and he re-sumthings the dilithium chamber. He puts on two giant of gloves. Yeah. Why don't they make a whole suit out of glove? He said, dad jokingly. And they warp out of there just in time. Big explosion in space. It's a crazy moment. They save the day.

Like there's a bunch moment. They save the day. There's a bunch of Hazaz and then up on the radio, Scotty calls Kirk down to engineering. This is an amazing scene because this is like Nimoy, from what I've read, insisted on brand-oing in this scene, and it's why it's such an affecting moment. I wonder if you're a viewer, if you feel like you're safe at this moment, like having already fallen for the jangly keys in the beginning of the movie, like, oh well then, no one's gonna die in this film. But that's why he has to Brando, because when it blows up on the bridge and he's like, oh, it's like, it's like, it's corny and cartilage.

That's cartilage, yeah. But to like- He's not doing that in this scene. To Brando, you sell that. You guys do people know the term brandoing? Sorry, I'm- Take them to film school, man. This is a... people really like the film terminology that we use on the show. So it's a little bit of jargon and I think that Hollywood doesn't love it to be out there

but I think you need to know the term to talk about this scene because this is a technique that Marlon Brando made famous as a method actor like coming out of the like Stanislaus ski and Myzner and all that all that stuff like the idea is that when your character dies to sell the emotional truth of that you do what you do when you die and That is evacuate your bowels. And so total bowel reversal. And this is like the kind of commitment

that Nimoy brought to this part. It's what makes him great. Yeah. And so there's like, we actually found to this part. It's what makes him great. Yeah. And so we actually found the live onset, because they loop it later. Yeah. You've got a loop it later. You can't use...

You can't use... Diogetic audio. Yeah. So we have the audio of... Should we show it? Yeah, this is an alternate audio track on the special edition. You know they block that frame so that you can't tell he's not wearing pants. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that there's a drain on the floor of that room. When Shatter found out, the Nimoy was gonna Brando,

like he was like, we're favored nations, like our contracts are the same, like I'm not gonna let him like, upstage me in this movie. Like this is, I am the hero of the movie, this is my movie. Like, and I think Spock is the hero of the movie, but Shatner's interpretation was different. I think you can tell by looking at him

that Shatner hits craft services pretty hard. But he was going on a specific mission on the shooting day. But so like brand-oeing is not just when your character actually literally dies, it's also character death. It's the moment that you face real despair. And Kirk has a scene like that on this movie and so

because he had heard that Nimoi was going to he insisted that he got to do it too I believe we have a clip It's like you can smell it through space. Ben, I just want to point out there have been funerals here. I feel terrible. So the Genesis device has gone off and the cloud of gas coalesces creates a new planet. And it's like coming together in space, and we're kind of dealing with the departure of a dear character. And so they have a little, I mean, speaking of funerals,

they have a little memorial service on the ship. And this is like another, like just from a character development. You don't do character development like there's this late in a movie usually. Well, almost every character is doing something in this scene. Carol Marcus is having almost like a partner

losing their partner kind of emotional or savage shan tear, which is like bonkers because she's talking about how emotional everybody is at the beginning of the movie. She's supposed to be like the super vulcan. And Kirk. No cadets attend because they're all dead. Kirk does the super insulting. Spock was human. His eulogy is awful. This is not a good moment for Kirk. Spock would be horrified. And Scotty plays his backpipes.

And everyone brings something to the table. Yeah. Spock was from the Highlands of Vulcan. So it's just, it's an app's tribute. Let's see that clip. If all was so, I had an encounter in my travels. Here's the book. Here we go. Oh no. Oh. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Oh. music. Carol Marcus is so polite. She never cracks. I learned two things from that scene, Ben. One, there are still cadets alive on the ship. Two, it is very hard to play backpipes with nine fingers. It's got to be just like, we're going to have another memorial service down in the galley for my nephew. If anybody wants to come, I've put out some like cut vegetables. Do you think he's just a puck in a disposal? Damn. They got a lot of bodies to bury. Yeah, man. A lot of also unaccounted. Like the crew of the reliant was apparently marooned on setty alpha five, and like no mention has ever been made

of them since we found that out. Like they're just like- No one's in a hurry to do anything. Because the end of the movie is just Kirk like hanging out on the bridge, like getting a little misty eyed, watching the planet form and turning to a life-bearing Genesis planet and saying how young he feels. Then we get the camera swooping down through the clouds and finding the Mark VI torpedo tube

that's back is in. What do you make of this ending though? Like, and it's happiness relative to everything that had happened only five minutes before? Well, I'll give you two answers. When I was a kid, I was profoundly confused by this ending because I didn't know that Mark and then a number meant like an addition of something. So I thought, I was like, why did they call him Mark Ev? His name is Spock. I don't get it.

Up until this moment, I thought you were like in special like smart classes as a kid. I was not. I'm totally shattered by this. I thought you were gifted. You were an idiot. But also, the emotion that Kirk is going through is like there's catharsis in this and that he's like wishing his friend goodbye but also seeing the possibility in the future

is like really beautiful and somehow works. I think it's the strength of Shatter's performance but it is a hard moment to imagine another actor selling. I don't know if it's just me looking at this film with modern eyes, but I don't understand, like, did they ever have a choice in how Kirk treated this scene? Like, could he have ever gone dark and sad and have it in like that? Because this feels like the counterpoint at the beginning of killing off the entire crew and going, just kidding. His joy at the end of this film I think betrays what could have been a fun surprise for the

third film and just ruins that completely. I don't know because I think like I think you can read the text in a dark way but I think that's not that's not Kirk's way. He sees the opportunity in everything, and this is one of the few times in the history of Kirk where he does despair, and Spock kind of taught him that there really isn't a no-in situation in sacrificing himself.

Like this was Kirk's real-world Kobayashi Maru and it took Spock to show him how right he was when he took the test back at Starfleet. Did you like the movie Adam? I'm sorry I wasn't listening. I was still thinking about Mark Ive. Do you like the movie? Yeah, of course I did. It's the second best Star Trek film there is.

It's great. I'd say third, but it's up there for sure. It's better than Wales. It's not better than Wales. It's not better than whales. It is utterly better than whales. Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! People like whales. Learn to pander at them. Did I just hear boo whales? I think I did. I really like the movie too. I think it's such a foundational film for me.

Like, I think this is the movie that I really got to know the TOS crew in as a kid. And like, all of the mythology around Kirk and the Kauaiashi Maru is like so fertile. And they use it like for so many things in like going forward in the Kirk Methos that like this is like year zero for Kirk for me. And I think that that may be like part of why I've had less of an easy time getting

into TOS TV reruns or whatever. But I love this movie and I love what it sets up. I love the adventure that this is the beginning of. If you can measure value per scene, I feel like Shatner is almost on screen as much as Montabon and he is squeezing every bit of charisma out of every scene. He's great. They both are. Montabon is awesome too. They both kick a ton of butt in this movie.

Kirk does something that it takes, I don't know, like a hundred years to happen again by destroying another federation ship. Like as midlife crises go, I feel like that's a pretty good one to get. I mean, Picard had to do it as a borg for that to work. Yeah. It's got a few great. Yeah. And I like that part of the two.

That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, we've both. Right? That should have been a bonding moment. Adam, do you want to check and see if we have any p1s? Oh, yeah, we got to do that. I already won a message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

I need a supplement? supplement. supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, the priority one message that we're reading in today's show are going to support the National Center for Science Education.

We are raising money for the cause of making science education abundance and non-controversial in this country, which I think is a good thing. Our first one. And by that, we don't mean space force, right? Our first one is, I didn't write down a from. Uh-oh. Matt?

From Matt? I put the two in the from and the thing. Did it not update for you? Oh, it did. Okay. I'm guessing that's classified. Oh, I see. Okay. And it's two FODs who have filled out an SF-86. Oh, a lot of people get that reference.

Are we inside the QAnon conspiracy right now? It goes like this. I am guessing this P1, oh, sorry. The following P1 is not real, but it is really sponsored by Section 31. Is your agent's SCIF too small? Wish your ID card was just a mysterious jet black shield? Feel like there's got to be something higher than TSSCI.

Come join the intelligence agency that's really out of this world and know we don't mean the NRO. Section 31 is recruiting now. No need to apply. Our time traveling recruiters will find you. Or they would if we weren't totally fictional. Enjoy the show. That's a lot of fun. That was almost completely lost on me. I'm glad you enjoyed it though. That must be what it's like for my wife to hear an episode of the greatest generation. My wife doesn't listen.

I don't know if it's a drunk Shimoda. Then we have a second priority one message. It is from Adam Conner. It is for Brad and Sam and it's actually written in script format with like all the script justifications and character names. And there's and character names. Parts for you and me. Yeah, you want to take a run at this?

Let's do a read. Let's do a live read. This has definitely gone over the character limit by the way. God damn it. You told me you found Brad and Sam disrespectful. Brad and Sam are disrespectful. It's a violation of basic decency certainly if not marital vows as a person familiar with their friendship. No, we're on the record here. You can't say after the fact as someone familiar. I told you everything about Brad and Sam was off the record. No, that's not true.

That never happened. Well, people do see Brad and Sam this way. People do see them that way. I don't say so, but people see them that way. But I am saying we never discussed everything about Brad and Sam being off the record. Fine, I never actually said what I think about Brad and Sam and I won't say what I think about them,

which tells you what I think about them. And sing. Some big fans of Kelly and in the crowd tonight. I can't say I agree. I didn't know that about Adam Conner. Well, I believe we have one more segment tonight at him and I have a question for you Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk I think I should have asked you that first. Oh, do I go given the order of operations of this slide show we're running

Hey, Ben Given the order of operations of this slide show we're running? Hey Ben. What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I did Adam and I also forgot to read our notes. That's what they're there for. Let's say where the clips are in order. It's got to go to Joaquim for me. Judson's got the actor that played him

is not credited in this movie because his agent apparently tried to play hardball with the studio. And one of his bluffs was like, you either put his name in the opening credit role or you don't put his name in the movie and they're like, fine. So we won't. Less work for us.

And that has got to have been a pretty uncomfortable red carpet screening. Could you imagine going to the premiere at your agent sitting next to you friends Friends and family, like, ready? Sharing a bucket of popcorn. Yeah, so rough time for Johnson Scott, but there's a scene with him that I just is just near and dear to my heart, and it is the scene where they punch in the garage door code on the reliant and drop their shields. And I will show you a clip of that scene

to illustrate what is so great about it. Sir, our shields are dropping. Rain. I can't. I can't. This didn't happen today, but most of the time when we do sound check Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah. Yeah by this film. You do also wear like a leather vest at every sound check and like this weird like a ring of shells on your head. Yeah a lot of people thought those went out in the 90s what my theory presupposes. Maybe they didn't. Joaquin's great in this movie that's a great Shimoto. Did you have a Shimoto Adam? I did.

I already asked you that. I did. And it comes at kind of a strange time. Like one of my favorite parts in this film is the scene where the Enterprise pulls out a space dock. The score swells. Like I feel like the score should be built above the title. It's amazing.

It's triumphant and cool. And you get all the beauty shots of the enterprises as she pulls out a space duck But they cut to in this daisy chain of edits to someone that they left behind And I also have a clip That guy. That guy. Oh, no. No. No. Wait. Hey.

Hey. One of the things that made me terrible at an office job was my constant lateness. And I saw that guy being left behind its face stuck and I was like, that is me. There is like, I want five extra minutes of the scene after the enterprise is just fucking gone. And he's just like, oh, I'm really going to get it. Like he grabs his own handle. And then like you could have the after the credits roll, a shot of that guy opening the morning

paper the next day and seeing what happened to the enterprise. And I'm like, whoo. Both of us. His life asked how work was today and he's like, fine, it was a normal day. Why are you asking? Get up my back. Well, that's a great drunk Shimoda. Get off my back. Well, that's a great drunk Samota.

Yeah, you too, buddy. That brings us to the end of our program for the evening. Is it really yet? This was so much fun. This was a lot of fun. DC, you guys really made it fun. We have a couple of thank yous. Yeah, we couldn't do a show like this without you, all of our friends of DeSoto.

Yeah. Certainly. Thank you so much. We got to thank Rob, our producer, who is running the video down here. We also got to thank Trevor and Jordan, helped run the sound of the lights and stuff tonight. It was really awesome the way they had this place set up for us. Yeah, one of the best set ups we've ever had, really. And you guys are laughing at this challenge coin that you're seeing on the screen behind

me, and that is because we are going to be down at the merch table, which is downstairs where the bar is. And we'll be, you know, given high fives and sign-in posters. And every challenge going we sell, we donate a portion of the proceeds to the National Center for Science Education. We've also got t-shirts and posters and stuff, so come say hi after the show. We'd love to meet you and that is the greatest generation so we're going to leave you with some outro music composed by our buddy Adam Ragusia.

Yeah we got to thank him too. Thanks for coming out tonight guys. Good night, Latin DC! MUZIEK. Oh, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, I remember reading about your missions when I was in grade school. Oh really? Waddle Bloody A, B, C, B, D. Thank you Mr. Scott by A.