The Greatest Generation - Back to One (DS9 S4E11)

Episode Date: May 6, 2019

When what Captain Sisko thought was a changeling takeover turns out to be a Federation power grab, it’s somehow even more difficult than before to know who his friends are. But when Admiral Leyton��s coup d'état breaks down like a Coupe DeVille, his plans to pave over paradise are jeopardized for good. Can you wear a com badge to the brig? Are guile and paradise mutually exclusive? What is “The Greatest Gen Promise”? It’s the episode that reaches through the brood!

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I'm Ben Harrison. Ben, I don't know if you can hear this, but I'm kind of glowing right now. Oh really? Are you pregnant? You might say I'm a little too mesench-ed even. Oh, gross. You know that moment when you've got a new relationship and everything is great and like you don't see the faults in the other person at all. You're just excited about that person.

You just want to be with them all the time. Did you get a, are you starting a new podcast with a different partner? Ben, I found my new regular bar and after last night, I'm proud to say that we're going steady. Oh. Yeah. Just what you need. Brought a friend in there because you want to pass the friendship test. Oh yeah. Just what you need. It brought a friend in there because you want to pass the friendship test. Second time for the friend. Friend also had a great time.

Felt very clear by the end of the evening that things were going to move forward into a more serious form of the relationship. Wow. And here we are. I'm getting service industry discounts. Whoa. I'm getting service industry discounts. Whoa. I'm getting welcome wagon status to a nice seat at the bar. It's really nice.

Damn. That's a, that's the type of shit that really appeals to me. Special treatment. Love it. This will date the episode. When in there on Easter night, the night of Easter. The drunkest night of the year. There were zero people in there, Ben.

Wow. It was me and my good buddy. That's a great opportunity to like get a bartender on your side. So make a bond with the bartender that's gonna last beyond that hang. I think that's why I'm able to tell you about my change in relationship.

It's because we had a bunch of quality time for a number of hours. And it was super fun. Fun was had by all. Ben, I really want you to meet this bar. Maybe most of all. It's not gonna mean as much if it doesn't pass your test. I mean, you've built it up quite a bit.

I feel like you've maybe given me more power than I should have. It would be heartbreaking if you went in there and it didn't go great. If I didn't give it a full-throated positive review. I know. I mean, it could happen. It's like anything else though. Things could change the relationship in such a way that it doesn't go on. Like, I had a regular bar that you were familiar

with over the years. That situation ended up changing. And we no longer go there anymore. This is because the bartender you like moved on to other things. And it caused you not to like the restaurant and bar anymore. This bartender made a career decision without thinking of my feelings at all. How dare she! So yeah, that ended up ending a great bar and patron relationship, but now things are looking good. Well, I'm glad that the future is so bright for you. I'm not trying to rub it in your face.

That can be annoying too. You got a friend who's into a new thing. Yeah. And you can't help but be irritated by their happiness. I don't want to irritate you with my happiness, Ben. I don't want to be a jealous man, but there's a lot about the way you have arranged your life that I am somewhat covetous of.

I've got lots of great friends, you've been in the same city for a really long time, so your roots are deep. And you establish ongoing relationships with things in places, and that's just something that is so far outside of my grasp right now. I hold people to me very tight, people and things, but luckily for you Ben you're one of those people and things. I get to come up there from time to time and draft in your wake and enjoy all of the wonderful things that you have at your fingertips. See now I feel bad. Now I don't like this. I don't like this at all. You should feel bad. It's me that's got the problem. You know what, if we could pivot into that conversation, that was a thing that I was actually thinking about this morning, not having to do with my new relationship with a bar. But just in the general sense of trying to appreciate the stress that I have in the times that I feel those stresses, like.

You mean because our career is now a very fun thing. And occasionally we get a bunch of stuff on our plate that we have to get done in a timely way or bad things will happen, but we'd rather have these problems than almost any other problems. That is such a hard ball to keep my eye on because I feel like why can't I be happy when everything is going pretty well? That's not how it works. That is not how it works, man.

New. And it's okay that that's not how it works. That is not how it works, man. New. And it's okay that that's not how it works. Yeah, I'm just trying to like change my relationship to the stresses of our new careers. Yeah. And trying to twist that into a pretzel that is a fun kind of stress. Yeah. Like my relationship to the stress needs to change

because the stress isn't going away, you know that. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you the stress that I've been under lately is I keep feeling like I don't have enough time to get this giant Millennium Falcon Lego set out of the box and start building it You know child Ben would like to reach through the time but whole yeah, yeah, you buy the lapels. Yeah Get it together, man like to reach through the time butthole, and grab you by the lapels. Yeah. Get it together, man. Yeah.

Is it still in the box? It's still in the box. I actually just went to the hardware store today and bought a folding table that narrowly fits into a small amount of spare space in my office. That's great. It was literally like a problem of the only horizontal service in the house that could

accommodate this thing is the dining room table. And that is not going to fly with the misses if it gets taken over for something like this. So yeah, that problem is now solved. Wow. That's great. And that card table is going to come in handy for other things. Yeah. Like playing cards.

I'm sure it will. Like the kids in handy for other things. Yeah. Like playing cards. I'm sure it will. Like the kids table at a holiday dinner. Yeah. We've got a friendly fire mini tour coming up. And that has been occupying so much of my time that I haven't. Like I feel like I could have gotten a lot of this done last week, but too busy like getting t-shirts and posters put together and booking all of the travel and stuff. And it was very much a fire ready aim situation when it came time to book this tour.

Yeah, yeah. So that's not how it works. If you'd like to see us live, I think tickets will still be on sale when this episode comes out. It's a friendlyfire.fm slash live. We got like five shows all over the US, not really all over the US, but there's five cities. The places that we could reasonably predict, not losing a ton of money, putting on shows. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would say that that was part of it. I think that mainly we booked this show to not go to places specifically at certain people Right, and those are the people who are sending us tweets about why we're not going to their particular city. Yeah

I hope they marinate in The feeling of being singled out because it's exactly what we did. We did it. We did it at them Oh the feeling of being singled out because it's exactly what we did. We did it. We did it at them. Oh. The most heart-breaking ones of those are when we tried to make a city happen and just couldn't because the timing was bad. And they don't know it. Yeah. I feel the same way. That's happened a couple of times. Lucky to get to do this at all. So. Right. There it is. Back to one.

Back to one. Do you want to get back to Star Trek deep space line? Yeah, we're in the middle of a story. We are it's the second part of a two-parter. Don't really remember much of the first part That's right because we were more enamored the first time through so we really need the last time on deep space 9 pre-roll here Yeah, as we discuss, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, season four episode 11, Paradise lost. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't. Anybody seen my paradise around here? It's kind of related to our Marin, right? For everyone on Earth, things are going pretty great. Yeah.

It's going so great that they give it a name, like they actually call it paradise. And that is a thing that I would not have the confidence to do if I lived in paradise. If that tells you anything about my mental makeup. You don't want word getting out and a bunch of riff raff showing up Is that what you're saying? I don't want to give it a name. I don't want to make it real by calling it that. Oh Yeah, I mean that is very much related to the stuff we were discussing in our man

Yeah, and they say it all the time. You don't want to ruin paradise but We never find out why it's paradise, do we? Other than it's the opposite of what we're getting. It's the opposite of more security. Well, I think it's paradise in that it's, you know, nobody wants for anything on Earth. I mean, Grandpa Joe wants a job. He wants it so bad. Yeah, but he can have it. I don't understand this. We're going gonna get into it as the episode goes on.

I have so many questions about Uncle Joe. It's Grandpa Joe. Grandpa Joe. So you thought the deep sea story in the first half having to do with Red Squad was gonna go nowhere. It's just nox, stupid sea story. Right. But it actually means something in this app.

The power outage doesn't add up and it starts to seem like Red Squad got deployed somewhere right around the time that the power outage started. And Cisco and Odo kind of smell a rat. That's why I brought it up. I kind of liked Odo's vibe in this scene because they're meeting in Cisco's office where he functions as head of Starfleet Security

and Odo kind of walks Cisco through all of the information he would need to find to do an investigation for his superior officer, but his superior who is not a natural investigator the way Odo is. I really liked that. Odo is just fucking built for this, you're right. But he doesn't relish in the chase.

Like sometimes we'll get an episode where Odo is on a case and he's like living for it. Yeah. He is not that version of him. No. In this app. It's definitely a Ben Sisko driven story. Well, and I think Odo wants Ben Sisko

to have the, you know, get, get the collar. Yeah. But, uh, and he wants to put the dope on, on Ben Sisko's table. Yeah. It's always a jam up when there's dope on the table. But, but I liked how he's in the background helping Sisko do this thing that Sisko is not naturally good at. But, you know, like letting him, letting him actually get a W with this.

Right. Uh, the B story is Jake and Grandpa Joe booting the restaurant back up. It's been like a few days since the power outage. It seems like Earth is kind of back to having power, but not, uh, not really back to normal. There are still troops in the streets. The restaurant has not been open, and Jake is even like a little bit questioning whether it's too soon to go back into business.

And Jake's like, you know, there's hardly anyone on the streets. I'm not gonna have any customers. And Grave and Joe's like, oh, I've got plenty of customers. Just look outside. Wait until you see the security officers. And that's his plan.

He's gonna sell to the security. That's who's gonna fill his restaurant. Yeah. I don't want to be the type of fan that, you know, like in the new Star Wars movies, the toxic fan community that came out around those were adjudicating story moments that they felt didn't make sense. And so like, I got hung up in this scene about Jake and Grandpa Joe going to get groceries

for their restaurant, which I want to say right off the top, I don't want to be seen as equivalent to a Star Wars fan by fanboy talking about why Snoke was killed in the second movie. I don't think they're equivalent, but does it make me a bad fan to want some of this stuff answered when we talk about like how a world is built and works. What is the cash and carry look like for a restaurant operating in a post-scarecity future? Is the question you want this sip as our answer?

What is the downside to an empty restaurant other than nothing to do? Like, does he get anything for, quote unquote, selling a bunch of food? This is too confusing. Yeah. Other than like the self-worth, he must feel in looking out onto the floor and seeing a bunch of tables filled. What is he doing this for? It's just it's just his way, you know, yeah tell me tell me how he derives value from his existence.

Give me Cisco's the bottle episode. Am I a jerk and a bad science fiction fan or is that a kind of science fiction that some people enjoy that is being done on other shows or in other books or whatever that really like those kind of deep dives. I like those deep dives too and I think that I was talking to a friend of mine about how there's going to be a Star Wars TV show at some point soon. And I feel like that could be catastrophic for Star Wars because it's a very poorly thought out universe with a bunch of major holes in like,

oh, like if this is technically feasible, why wouldn't this and this and this be true? You know, like, why are there so many slaves and in a future where, where, like, mass automation is clearly possible and like, why would you have robots that have sentience and feelings, the part of the cast of slaves in that society, and also like why would the Jedi defend such a society if it's so fucking great? Great questions. Why and why are no people fucking these robots? Like I think they're just there. The the stress as a television show puts on on a built world like that are so much greater

than you know a handful of two hour films. And I wonder if that like prestige television show is going to have a really hard time making it seem realistic that this university even exists, you know. Start Trek Discovery went through a bunch of blowback to week to week when it was coming to series and yeah like it's gonna be so much worse with a Star Wars show. It's like Brandon Bird is gonna have his hands full on Twitter. I like liking things. Yeah. And it sounds like sometimes when we review these shows that we enjoy ripping parts to shreds that we don't like, but I don't think that's even a quarter of what we do.

We can always do better. I'm gonna keep trying. If you guys keep trying. I don't feel like we're part of the shitty snark economy of the internet. I hope not. I'm trying to make fun as in make it fun. Right.

And less making fun of the actual stuff. But there's stuff that's worth it. Yeah. I don't know. It's all complicated, been complicated feelings. I respect that this is coming from a place of curiosity. Yeah, I just want to go to the Paradise Trader Joe's and see where Grandpa Joe's buying his produce.

Yeah, Grandpa Joe, meet Trader Joe. We get Cisco doing a FaceTime with a Boolean Admiral. Is this a secure line? To ask about this whole where was red squad during the power outage question and he's got all these got to go on is a transport or record and the comment on it's like oh my god I am so glad that you're the one to find this and you told me like please wipe that that record like nobody is supposed to know about that this is this is all very embarrassing

but I really appreciate you bringing this to me. This is the dumbest cover-up ever. Ha-ha-ha-ha. If these records weren't deleted before, Odo and Sisko were able to find them, right? Well, if you live in Paradise, you could be forgiven for not, you know, for being a little bit guileless.

Yeah, that's fair, right? These people are inexperienced at this kind of craft. We talked about how it seemed unfair that Riker was such a good haggler in that episode of TNG where he gets on FaceTime with Quark and like, the haggle over the price of something. Given that Riker grew up in a cashless society and would never have had to pay anything for anything, much less negotiate a fair price for it. This seems like it's that same issue. If you don't really need that type of security because you live in a nearly perfect society,

why would you ever be that good at security? Right. It kind of explains a lot of the problems that Warf has. Yeah. All of the unlocked doors on the entrepreneur suddenly start to add up. I really loved where Odo was standing in this scene because he's kind of like investigation training wheels for Cisco. He's standing outside of the, outside of the camera angle that the FaceTime would be getting, but he's still there, like, listening in on what the ambassador's saying and providing Cisco with some, some tips.

Do you think the reason he didn't turn himself into a paperweight was because paperweights don't have ears? With which to hear the conversation? No, it does seem like he's aware of stuff going on when he's, when he's an inanimate don't have ears with which to hear the conversation. No, it does seem like he's aware of stuff going on when he's an inanimate object, because he always knows when to go gold right at the most dramatic moment. I wonder if it was an issue of budget.

Like you can only turn him gold so many times in a season and they were just trying to be efficient with it. Yeah. I like that part too, Ben, just the leaning up against the TV viewer. Yeah, it kind of looks like it might be an actual HDTV, like an early example of an HDTV that they used in this set, but then they drew an outline of a really big TV on the wall around it. It's so great.

It's very funny. This boolean he's talking to is super paranoid. And the thing that makes this boolean so overmatched in this moment is that Benzisco isn't saying anything. He's allowing the boolean to tell him what he wants to know. And it's clear that there's a cover-up happening because the boolean says that Red Squad performed their mission admirably. And so if Red Squad was on a mission and it had to do with this blackout,

and there's some upset feelings about the records involved, about Red Squad's whereabouts there, then what are we doing? We're constructing a cover up here, a conspiracy, if you will. And Cisco, by just being a good listener listener is getting a ton of information. Gold to cotton, gold to cotton. He's also listening to Cadet Nog at his dad's restaurant. It's interesting that Cisco and Nog kind of have this in common, that the previous generation and their families are entertainers, and they're both star fleets. Yeah.

Yeah. But boy, he really puts the screws to Nog in this scene. It's really fun because Nog is like talking about, oh man, like those guys in Red Squad are so cool. They're not afraid of anything. And this goes like, why don't you tell me like the names of some of those guys? And Nog's like, ooh, I don't know if I should. This goes like, last I checked,

you didn't have a single pip on your little light gray cadet uniform. I got four full pips, dude. You're gonna tell me some names. Isn't it interesting that the two most explosive treatments of a leader to a subordinate that I can remember on this show is Picard blowing up at Wesley in the first duty.

Are you come forward and tell Admiral Brand what really took place or I will? Get dismissed! Yeah. And Ben Sisko blowing up at Nog. I want a name and I want it now and that is in order understood Mr. Nog. Both of them were captains. Both of the subordinates were cadets. And I'm really struggling to think of another time when

this happened between a captain and someone working for them. Can you think of an example of that? I don't like you. I mean, I guess if you get this a couple of times as a cadet, you probably don't do it that much once you're doing your actual career. Yeah. Interesting that the show is reluctant to show us a conflict that rises to that level among adults, for example, because it's very like adult versus teenager. Definitely. I don't envy Nag having to go through it in public. It's scary to watch Avery Brooks do this to him.

Sure is. It's effective, though. I mean, the next scene is Siskel having a meeting with Cadet Shepard, who is a third-year academy student. Start fleet service number C9504699427. He may also be a third bucy. He really does have Jake bucy teeth. Yeah, if the bucies are picking up the phone,

I think you gotta call this actor. Boy, it's kind of... And they shoot him teeth forward too, right? It's like they're center screen. It's kinda like if you had Jake Bucytith, you would look like this. I don't necessarily agree. I feel like this guy is a much bigger job than me.

Well, yeah, because of all the Jake Bucytith. Yeah, you gotta fit him in there somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. You need to push him, push him to fit them in there somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. You push push them furniture aside for those fucking things. A little more to the left. Yeah. And like this is another like great use of chain of command.

Yeah. By by Cisco, he just casually asking questions like this cadet doesn't know the contours of the of like what is and is not secret and who he should and should not talk to about this. And he's talking, you know, it's been established that he admires Ben Sisko and also Ben Sisko is the head of Starfleet Security for Earth. So it is excusable that this cadet would be willing to blab about this, but turns out. He's proud, too, right? Mission went perfectly.

If anything, it was easier than the simulations. The difference between Ben Cisco and this kidette is that Cisco is very taciturn, and the kidette is like, like wanting him to be proud of him, like a son wanting a father to be proud. He's like, you wouldn't believe I'll grade the plan when it was awesome.

Yeah. We took some flying classes, didn't even bother learning how to land, then we boarded some jets, James Woods nearly caught us, but did not. Yeah. Later on, Cisco and Odo are at the restaurant. The same restaurant that Ben Cisco never invites

Odo to have a meal with him at. Like they're there after closing and Ben helps himself to a glass of milk. The sink kind of made me sad. Is Odo in hiding? I kind of feel like he is, isn't he? He doesn't want to have lunch or dinner at the restaurant or other people probably. Yeah, he's not making himself other people's problem. They're doing a debrief with each other about the status of things and by the end of it, you get the sense that neither of them know why any of this is happening. What's the point of shutting off the power station and why would Red Squad be doing it? where do the changelings they believe to be unearthed into all this?

Stuff's not adding up. What have they accomplished? There's been no invasion and power has been restored. You know, like the implications of it are yucky. I feel like my stomach would be a nods, and I might have second thoughts about having a big glass of milk well while going through that? Yeah, the night milk thing.

Why? Like, I'm not, I'm not even lactose intolerant. I know that I wouldn't want to have a big, great, big glass of milk right before I went to bed. It's mentioned later that non-replicated coffee tastes better than replicated coffee. I wonder if Cisco goes for the milk because he knows that... Oh, it's like a luxury item. That Joe Cisco went to Trader Joe's and got it fresh.

Yeah. Got the non-homogenized kind. They have to shake up. The fat cap incorporates into the rest of the milk. Hmm. Gross. How do I like drinking milk? Oh, man. At any time. It incorporates into the rest of the milk. Mm. Tt-t-t-t. Gross. I don't like drinking milk.

Oh man. At any time. The only way to go if you get some chocolate chip cookies, nice big frosty, glass of milk and some chocolate chip cookies. Nothing better, Adam. I think if your cookie game is strong, a beverage accompaniment is unnecessary. I agree.

I don't think that, I don't think you should need the milk, but I think it's nice. And I think you should reprogram yourself about that a little bit. I like a little scoop of ice cream on a hot cookie. Like that's good. That's great. I can't get with the milk though.

I can't do it. Mostly because I never have milk in the house. Yeah. Cisco's got a big dilemma here, because all of this is pointing at something really bad. And all of the people involved are people that he has a long history with and respects. And like his line. He's on evil people, Odo.

As he's describing them and grappling with the implications that they might be doing something like extremely, extremely bad felt like a really smart moment in the script, you know, having like gotten this responsibility that he's gotten to do the right thing and and be a custodian of the democracy that paradise Earth enjoys, and overcoming the social cost of having to name the people he is working with who are actually committing treason. It's shocking how many times this episode, both this one and in part one, it's shocking the prescience that the script has, not only for circumstances in the world that

would happen five-ish years later, but then 20 years after that, like the repetition of what this episode is cautioning you against is maybe the saddest part of it It's not just one instance of yeah of not getting it. It's multiple instances over and over again And I think it's it makes the script kind of a miracle in that way It's such a different tone than the part one episode. Yeah, yeah. Like, we talked a lot about how like, how many like goofy, comedic breaks there were in the last episode, and how strange that felt in a like post 9-11 world.

Right. This episode has none of that. Yeah. We're gonna have to add them all back in. That's what we do. we take a serious subject matter and make it serious or that's the greatest gen promise. Yeah What are you doing now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, And he is incredulous about this. The idea that Starfleet would plot to overthrow the Federation government is the single most astonishing accusation I have ever heard. And he wants proof. Like the story is so fantastical. He just cannot wrap his mind around it.

Or his loafy hands. Yeah. They're saying, you know, we don't have like physical proof right here right now that Admiral Layton is doing a military coup, but why don't you order him to take his troops off the streets and like stand down and see what happens. And I know that was a terrible suggestion because if he, if Layton gets that order and defies it, like the coup is over, you know. Yeah, this is such an interesting part in the episode and an interesting part of the president's

character, a character that I thought was shitty in the first half. Like, I thought this is a bad character doing dumb things in the first half, but he articulates the problem here really elegantly when he's like, Right now the public overwhelmingly supports the increased security. If I try to remove those troops over Latens objection, I'll have a planet wide riot on my hands. The president was entirely characterized in the last episode via Latent.

Like everything we got about the president was filtered through Latens opinion of him. So it was really cool in this episode that they're kind of letting us see him outside of a Layton meeting and being frank about the different forces he's grappling with. Yeah, that's a good point. It's cool. I think that happens a lot in television though. You have very little respect for Rom, unless he's apart from Quark, for example. Like the relationships a character has with other characters,

colors how you feel about them. And getting the president away from Layton here is an example of that. Yeah, so I have like a very long scene and at Cisco's restaurant after hours where Admiral Layton shows up and shares some coffee with Captain Ben and this just felt like vintage TNG moral debate. I really liked it.

Somehow replicated coffee never tastes this good. Ben Sisko's like, you know what's on my mind right now? It ain't the coffee. Yeah, he's wearing that weird bathrobe. Yeah. Ha, ha, ha. You wanna know what's gonna happen

when Joe comes back to the restaurant? Ha, ha, ha. I'm gonna get a divorce. And we're not even married, cause he's my dad. And I don't wanna get a a divorce, Admiral Layton. Yeah. I kind of, it seems weird that I wrote this scene so that I could say a bunch of

ethnic slurs. Like, weird that I cast myself in this part of a racist that I wrote for myself. Right? Weird. myself, right? Weird. This is the centerpiece scene of the episode and of the two partners, I think, because you get latent side arguing full-throatedly for his position and you get Cisco side arguing against and it's lawyer versus lawyer. And they're citing precedent, too. Like they have history with each other. There was an incident on a ship that Layton was the captain of, that Cisco was the exo, and they had some disagreement about attacking some Zencethi, and Ben Cisco was overruled,

and Layton wound up having been right in the long run. And this is like, the debate is basically like, lightness saying like, yeah, I'm doing this coup and I'm your superior officer and I'm basically ordering you to like assist me in it. I'm still your commanding officer. And now more than ever, I need you to respect my authority. Like most bad guys, there is a massive flaw in his way of thinking, which is for a guy who's totally about chain of command. Ben Sisko doesn't flip over the table and

go, if you're so big on chain of command, why aren't you obeying your commander in chief? Right. Big, big chain of command guy. Like, give me a break, you're using it against me, but you're a hypocrite. He doesn't actually have big chain of command. He just has big chain of command energy. You're also like, if you're a soldier, I knew our order to do something illegal, you're actually on or bound to ignore that order. So yeah, it's an interesting scene because Layton is like dead certain that this is what must be done to ensure Earth's safety. Yeah. He is not an evil person, like Ben Cisco said. He's not thinking of this as being a bad thing, that he's like doing to a mass power around himself.

He's scared of the dominion and wants everybody to be as scared of the Dominion as he is and see them for the existential threat that he sees them as and like he has rationalized everything he's done via making the earth a safer place. I know there's more going on with him Like and he's saying that it's not a power grab, but I don't believe him. Right. Do you? I mean, that's the that it's not a power grab, but I don't believe him. Right. Do you? I mean, that is the puzzle, right? That's the puzzle of all power grabs. I mean, I think that we are experiencing that politically

in this country right now, where it's like, there's like a very unprecedented power grab by people who claim to have a certain set of moral convictions and like it seems preposterous that they wouldn't be aware that what they're doing amounts to a coup or whatever, but it's hard to know, you know? I mean, maybe it's good that we're left guessing

about latent true intentions. I think in many cases that does a character justice and a story justice. Yeah. So a lot of ways to see him, I think. If you want Chifo Brian Pethos, and this episode has none to offer you because we get some Chifo Brian,

but it is like the least Pethos O'Brien has ever had because it's not really O'Brien, is it? You're not O'Brien. Ah, luckily no. This is a really fun scene. This is like that scene in JFK when Donald Sutherland sits down with Kevin Costner and they talk about conspiracies.

Like, they're all by themselves. Vince's go can't do anything while this changeling is, like, gloating. Yeah. It's's awesome and giving him like a bunch of Information anybody's guess whether this is true or not, but he's saying It's a changeling in the form of O'Brien saying yeah, there's only four of us here on earth And we've really got you guys flipping your shit It's the confidence of a person and a people who know that they can't be hurt in this moment. Yeah.

It's really cool. Yeah. Like, he doesn't give a shit. There's only four here. What are you going to do about it? Yeah. It can be four or four thousand changelings on Earth. Doesn't matter.

You get the sense that they've done this so many times that it's just... Yeah. Like, it's a playbook. It's...yeah. Everything that the humans are going to do is predictable for them. All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again. Yeah. It's very scary. There's some darkness about that, for sure.

In a real solid Cisco grimace to commercial at the end of this. To be quite honest about it, that is an appere. I'm fucking an appere. Mr. Bucket, I have to revert back to my dead state. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore. Yeah, the one place where you want to be brooding is your dad's restaurant. Like, if you don't want to talk about your problems,

you probably shouldn't be hanging around with your dad. Ha, ha, ha. But he does get a nice piece of advice from pops. Joseph go compares what his son is going through to a time when, as a teenager, Ben Cisco had a crush on a girl and like didn't do anything about it for a long time. I really identified with this, like, the like, not having the nerve

to express your feelings to a girl in high school. That was all of high school for me. The whole comparison of an extinction level event to a high school relationship with a girl is hilarious, though, Joe. I know you're trying to help, but. Yeah. Psycho emotionally true. Yeah. Yeah.

He reaches through the brood, though, and connects with him in a way that's constructive. Yeah, and so it spurs Ben to action. What he does is he an Odo break into Layton's office and download a bunch of computer records that will amount to proof of the plot that is in place. Layton has been reassigning officers all throughout Starfleet in order to put officers loyal to him in key positions of power for when this coup goes down. Yeah, it's a movement of hundreds of people.

And it's creepily arranged around a special date because the president's going to be making a big speech And a bunch of these people are going to be moved into areas proximate to that speech. Yeah, uh-oh. Uh-oh. And they get caught. Captain, I'm surprised to find you here. They get caught by, uh, I guess you still commander-bentine at this point. I think by this moment, she was promoted to Captain. Isn't this the scene where he's like, oh, congratulations, by the way. Right. God, Layton's just giving promotions away, like Oprah gives away cars.

He's got just pockets full of pips and he's making it rain. Every time he walks around, you can just hear them rattling like change. Hey, have a pip, enjoy it. Say hello to your mother. Yeah. And then Cisco like tries to show up at the president's office

to drop this truth bomb on the president, but latent and a bunch of gold shirts and Ben Teein are already there. And Ben Teein does a blood test on Cisco, and it goes gold. He's a shapeshifter. He doesn't say anything. He doesn't resist at all. Yeah.

They throw him in the brig. It kind of reminds me of that time that Bashir was a secret changeling. Right. And they had to take him off to the brig, and like, there's nothing you say after somebody announces that you're under arrest that is going to like change their mind about whether you're under arrest. Like at that point you just have to go through the process. That's a great call. He's just waiting

for his lawyer. Yeah. And lawyer is apparently Odo. Odo's been a lawyer before. He was a lawyer for O'Brien back when he was put in the clink on Cardassia. Oh yeah, that's true. So he's got reps. Layton comes down to see Cisco in jail before Odo shows up. And I felt like at this point,

he was wavering a little bit, which I thought was a surprising choice. Yeah. Like that Layton woulding a little bit, which I thought was a surprising choice. Like that latent would be a little bit vulnerable to arguments that he's actually like doing something really ill. The personal stuff seems to reach him. The strategy stuff doesn't. Right. But he is weakened by his relationship to Bensisco, for sure.

Yeah. Weakened enough to let Bensisco go wear a comb badge into his holding cell. Do you think that the cell negates the ability to communicate or was that a mistake you think? Yeah, maybe or maybe they give you like a fake one just because like most dark lead officers just feel naked without it. Yeah, you don't want to walk around looking that way. If you want a little little peek into the mechanics of this world, that one peek we get is the blood cart lady.

Here comes down to the security area. Blood draws cigarettes. Yeah, she's wearing a little mini skirt and a pillbox hat. She's got to make those tips, Ben. Yeah. I love the little shop talk she has with her coworker. Yeah, they call her a vampire. I want more shop talk on this show. Yeah, tips, Ben. Yeah. I love the little shop talk she has with her coworker. Yeah, they call her a vampire. I want more shop talk on this show.

Yeah, it was fun. Yeah. But one of the objects on the cart was actually secretly Odo. So this security measure is terrible. Yeah. And Odo knocks everybody out. And is able to spring Ben Sisko from the clink and it was blood and urine samples on that cart, Ben.

And so Odo didn't have to work very hard. He's one of those. I look just like that one guy who wasn't super well hydrated. It takes very little effort for me to turn into a gallon of urine. I have to be careful when I go to planets where most of the population are piss-freaks because people want to drink me. Pretty fun fight scene here, including a neck pinch. Yeah. It's great.

What do it must have been cross-training with some vulks? Yeah, he gets right in there on the beverage cart lady. Yeah. Takes her down non-lethally. That's what you wanna do, I guess, at this point. Yeah, those people are just ponds. They know not what they do. Yeah.

So they split up and Ben goes to arrest Layton in his office, but it's kind of like a house arrest thing where Cisco is like keeping him at phaser point for the entire rest of the episode basically. Yeah, that arm's gonna get tired. Dustbusters heavy. Yeah. It's got a big lithium battery in it. You ever enter one of those contests at a bar where it's like hold the stine of beer

out in front of you and whoever, whoever can hold it out there the longest gets a free round or whatever Man, I've never been to a bar that had a contest of any kind This is a long time ago for me not invited to those types of places Anyone who's ever seen my arms would be able to predict that I was not the winner of this contest But I wasn't the first one out, which I was very proud of. Yeah. There was someone without any arms at all that actually went out first. Yeah.

They should have their own separate contest, though. Right. So concurrently to this, the defiant is on its way. The cavalry is coming. And word on the street is that all the wormhole winking that they thought was being caused by penetrations by the gem hadar was actually a device on that communications relay that they installed in the G quad many episodes ago. Yeah. So there's been some some shoes thrown at this thing. Hence the word sabotage. And they arrested the guy who

did it. Yeah. Working for Layton. Yeah. And he's in the brig on DS9 unclear whether or not he's wearing a combat. I think they're bringing him on the defiant, right? Oh yeah. He's hitching a ride. I think that I think they're like bringing him to earth to stand trial for what he's done or something. Is he the titular dope in the dope on the table scene that we're promised? Captain Ben Teen, now in command of the Lakota, has been sent out to stop the defiant.

And she and her crew have been told that everybody on the defiant is in fact a shape-shifting founder. And she should stop at nothing to prevent them from getting to Earth. So we get a fun federation on Federation space battle and Worf decides, yeah, let's fight these guys. Let's see what this puppy can do.

The end of Wrath of Khan. Did we resolve the whole garage door opener code that exists between Federation Starships to the degree that there's a reason why such codes weren't used in this fight scene? Oh, I don't know. I don't know either. It's much more fun that they're they're both fully defending and attacking each other. Yeah, I really liked this fight scene. It seemed like a lot faster paste than your typical starship to star-ship fight scene,

which I guess is because the little D is like so much more maneuverable. I was kind of missing interior of the ExcelCear class getting exploded, but that's a big build. Like, you understand line producer wise why that was not possible. Right, well, I mean, you understand line producer wise why that was not possible. Right, well, I mean, you understand, but also like, it's something that they, like on discovery, like they'll just build the bridge of an entire ship for a single

episode. And like that's, it's really fun to live in an era where the constraints of that seem to be less serious. Man, I wonder how much professional jealousy there is among production people, like just looking at the bucket loads of money thrown at disco that you just can't get. Right, and we know what an Excel Cier class bridge looks like. I mean, it's been built for the films, So it wouldn't be the full price of conceiving, designing and building. People have strange relationships to the value of things

on studio lots, though, like they famously destroyed and threw the enterprise deep bridge like outside by a dumpster. Yeah. People don't consider that shit. Yeah, it's a dumpster. Yeah. People don't consider that shit. Yeah, it's a weird deal. Morning. Morning.

Morning. Stay sweet. Morning. Morning. Morning. Morning. Have a time. Both ships basically swing haymakers at each other and shit's not good.

Like they're kind of fighting to a draw. They fight to a serious enough draw that they're basically like, all right, one of us, like the next person to shoot is going to kill the other ship right and At that point there are already people dead on both sides like there a couple casualties on the little D There's a couple there's like 20 or something on the Lakota. Wharf is like nice and Nice. And this is when Captain Ben Tine decides to stand down and allow the little D to proceed to Earth.

This is a real moment of truth for Layton. Like Layton has an opportunity to tell Ben Tine to stand down and instead orders her to keep going. And it's Ben Tine really that makes the decision for herself in this moment, and defies him. And this is an angle that Ben-sisco uses on Layton in telling him that it's over. Ben-teens already abandoned you, and she was closer to you than anyone. If Layton doesn't have Ben-teens allegiance, then he really has no chance of this plan being

successful. This moment is really interesting to me. We talked on friendly fire about this movie Valkyrie, where Tom Cruise is like a high-ranking German officer who is involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler and take over the German government during World War II. And there's like a great sequence in that movie where they're like running the coup from a set of offices and they kind of slowly start to dawn on them that it's not going their way.

And that divisions of troops that they were counting on being on their side are not and stuff. And you kind of see Lay late and go through this, like, well, I still got all of these, like, loyal officers and all these places. Like, well, we're still gonna, like, you know, this didn't go perfectly, but I still have enough support.

And this goes, like, you're gonna fight fucking Earth and Starfleet to get your way now. Don't you see at home, you're piting the wrong war. One of the seven steps of a failed coup is bargaining Yes, that's what he's doing here It really is and lawyer siscoe eventually argues the case successfully enough that that latent dumps out his final six pips Take some off his collar and set them on the table pips on the table like his gun in pips. Takes him off his collar and sets him on the table.

Pips on the table, like his gun in his badge. Yeah. Yeah, he walks out of the room and Cisco sets the, sets the con badge and the dustbuster down beside them and like looks at the pips very gravely. Yeah. What do you think about that moment? Cause I, I felt like, you know, Cisco's kind of walked back

from his life goal just being like become an admiral very quickly. And I felt like the weight of him, like picking up those admiral pips was pretty heavy. I get the feeling that he kept them too, like as some kind of... Some kind of talisman of abuse of power. Yeah, like something that would serve as a reminder

for him down the road. The button on the episode is the drawdown of the security state on Earth, and all of Joseph's ghost customers are beaming away. He's really in a lot of trouble at this point. Yeah. He's like yelling, leave an ICO preview. And Ben kind of gets a turn to camera like Tasha Yargad on the drugs episode, you know,

talking about the dangers of doing the bad guys work for them. This is a punctuation to the point of this episode and the episode before. Like, in case you didn't get it, this is what it's actually about. And I don't mean that to disparage the scene. I think it is a necessity of it to kind of wrap things up. It's not badly done at all. Yeah, I mean, if anything, it made me sad just thinking about what this episode is trying to say in the context of the world today, but maybe we can talk more about that during the, did you like this episode? Parts of the show, Ben? Yeah, we can. Talk about that then. Did you like the episode, Adam? Yeah, I did. I feel like the story was well told and efficiently told here.

Mm-hmm. And I liked it a lot and I like what it represents as far as a warning. Like, this is an episode that warns Star Trek, right? Like, it warns the idea of Star Trek. Yeah. In a way that is very interesting, because I like when the show comments on itself in addition to commenting on on the viewers world as they experience it. So in that way I thought it was effective. The paranoia really worked for me especially. I thought for sure the button on the episode would be Joe being a

shape shifter like once everyone left he was a he was gold the whole time but I'm fine with that. That would have been too cute, I think. What about you, Ben? What have been really devastating to have him have been? Yeah. Even Joe is like, why aren't you being paranoid that I'm suddenly all for blood draws, whereas before I wasn't?

Joe kind of goes to Sun into recognizing his changing relationship to what's happening on Earth, but he doesn't take the bait. Yeah. I really liked the episode. I thought it was so much better than Homefront. Weird, right? There's some things that are very effectively set up in Homefront.

Like the president, I feel like, is really well established in Homefront and then kind of complicated and a fun and surprising way in this episode. But the tone of this one was more even and felt a little bit more appropriate to the subject matter. And it just felt really smart and well argued as like, you know, it's definitely making a case

for a certain way of thinking and really it makes that case very effectively. I don't think you don't need homefront, but I kind of wish that one had gotten a little bit more script love, I guess. It's interesting that they're both scripts are written by the same people and I wouldn't have expected such a change in that way. Yeah. Part one to part two for the reason. Very strange. What I do expect is that we probably have a couple

of priority one messages in our inbox. You want to check on those. Indeed we do. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement? A supplement? A supplement. A supplement on top? supplement. supplement.

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It's called Mid-Century Kitchen. Oh, man. And it's called Mid-Century Kitchen. Oh man. And it's available right now from Country Man Press. I follow her on Twitter and she shared some things there, like some screen grabs at the book and some of the pictures that are in it and really excited about it. Here's the copy she asked me to read. The Mid-Century Kitchen is a new book by Sarah Archer that will transport you back to the world of the futuristic kitchens of the 1950s, 60s and 70s.

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and wherever you like to get your books. Hell, yeah. Sarah Archer, book coming out. That's killer. Get that book. Mid-century kitchen. Adam, we have a second priority one message here. It's of a personal nature. It's from Alex from Sector 47 and then it says in parentheses Pomona College love Star Trek. And it's for Ben and Adam. It goes like this. Hi guys, we met in Phoenix. I was awkward. Here's what I meant to say.

You'll have to be more specific. Ha ha ha ha. So were we, I'm sure. Yeah. Here's what I meant to say. I struggle with mental health because of Trump. Your show has meant so much to me well. I'm on news blackouts to keep my sanity intact.

Thank you for making a thing that is warm, optimistic, and enjoys scarves and love. This is the, is the Row Laryn song from Wu Tang. She is my bae. Thanks, Alex. The Row Laryn song is not from Wu Tang. Guess again, Alex. Ha ha ha.

You're gonna make Alex get another P1 to submit a follow-up guess. I'm not gonna make Alex do that. I think this question has been asked and answered a bunch. Alex, thank you for coming to a live show and I'm glad that our show can be a comfort to you while taking care of yourself. So it is really important to know what your limits

are W slash R slash T news intake. Yeah, that's for sure. I've definitely been there a bunch of times, and it last couple years of just needing to tune it out for a while and not feel like I bear all of the responsibility of it every single day. We don't have the news on 24 hours a day like everyone's parents. Yeah, man. Really trying to talk my dad into knocking it off with that. Wait, wait.

Well, if you have a priority one message of a commercial or personal age, you can go to MaximumFund.org slash JumboTron or personal messages are $100 and book announcements are $200. They are a great way to help you get the word out on your book. Or get a message out to your friends and they support the ongoing production of this program. So thanks very much. Hey Adam. What's that then? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! It feels like a cop-out, but I'm gonna give it to, uh, L. Presidente again.

I feel like they get achingly close to him being interesting. What? And they just don't do it. The idea of an earth being a paradise in the future has never felt more far-fetched. And so the idea of there being this in the show interested me greatly, but I wanted a leader installed here that made me happy in both ways. Like I wanted to have perfect future paradise earth, but I also wanted a president that I liked and thought could handle a problem, and this guy never could add any point.

And he was sort of feckless and bad for most of the two-part episode, and while he was able to articulate some issues he was having a little better this time around, I still didn't think he was a good character and I think for that reason I'm going to give him a Shimoda. I think they got a Vodum out of office, Ben. Get him out of there. Wow. Don't replace him with Layton. Like, this should be a, a, a democratically voted installation of a new leader, but I think you got to get this guy out of here. He's trash. I mean, peach the motherfucker already. What about you? Mine also maybe feels a little bit like a cop out,

but it's shape-shifted O'Brien. It felt really drunk Shimoda, just kind of carefree and didn't give a fuck. It felt very fun for Kalamini. You can help it think that this is great for him. Just coming in in very high spirits. I loved it. I mean, you could tell something was wrong with him the second he walked in because he seemed happy. So it goes like you're not the real O'Brien.

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Will the profits game? But what is the episode we're going to be watching next time around? The next episode is season 4 episode 12, Crossfire, Odo's hidden feelings for Kira interfere with his duty to protect the Bajorin first minister who also happens to be attracted to her Oh So a little bit of a love triangle That's that's French for triangle. I don't know probably not. I just made it up Very plausible to me Ben. You're required to learn as you play.

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