The Greatest Generation - Back to the Future-Level Breast Loaf (S6E8)

Episode Date: May 3, 2017

When Geordi tries to jump start the Entrepreneur with Data’s battery, it causes some glitches in Worf’s playthrough of Red Dead Redemption. Now all the NPCs are Data, and Data is all the NPCs, and... nobody can find the reset button. How deep is the shallow end of the R-rated pool? Is there anything more honorable than murdering Barclay? Its the episode where we play our own drinking game. #Problematic #BonsallBlaming

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoForLabor.com. That's FriendsOfDecotoForLabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Welcome to the greatest generation, a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to be doing a Star Trek podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Benjamin R. Harrison. I'm the other host, Adam Pryanaka.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Is this a Star Trek podcast anymore, Ben? It seems like it's mostly a children's program with dirty jokes. I wonder if they started to get like demo information and they were like, oh, a bunch of nine-year-olds are watching this show. Maybe we should try to write more for them. Maybe we should try to write more for them. Except when I was nine, I didn't ever want to watch age, appropriate, programming. I always wanted to watch Batman or Speed or whatever, like when it was coming out.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Like I wanted to see movies and TV that were not appropriate. I think Speed might have been the first rated R film I convinced my parents to let me see. Speed was the first rated R film I snuck into. Whoa. Yeah. What did you rate first R rated movie by the way also? Like it's totally harmless. It's so harmless. It's inexplicably rated R. Yeah. Like I guess the grossest part of that movie is in the tunnel when the light knocks that guys head off. Oh, spoiler alert. What are you gonna do, Ben?
Starting point is 00:03:58 What are you gonna do? Did you ever, as like a college kid or whatever, have the experience of a couple of 12-year-old rascals coming up to you and asking you to buy R-rated movie tickets for them? Never. That never happened to me. Though I remember asking others when I was that age. I have had both the kid that wants me to buy the booze and the kid that wants me to get them the R-rated movie ticket. And I'm so down to do the R-rated movie ticket. I'm not down to do the booze.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, you don't go to jail for the movie ticket thing. I mean, do you? I don't know. But... I think that one reason that kids don't ask me for For stuff like that is because I don't look old enough to provide it I got in I was in college I think Maybe just I don't remember exactly what year this came out, but I saw I went to see kill bill and My friends were already in the theater and so I was like by myself outside the theater buying tickets and some kids like,
Starting point is 00:05:08 well hey dude. I bought them the tickets and then they happen to be going through the ticket line, you know, getting their tickets ripped at the same time as me. And the Usher was like, are you guys here with And the Usher was like, are you guys here with somebody old enough? And they were like, and I was like, yep, that's me. Wow. I've provided two forms of coverage for them. You're a movie theater guardian angel. And the Usher definitely was wise.
Starting point is 00:05:43 You don't look wise. But let it go. Let it happen. Did you get the impression that Kill Bill would be these kids first, our rated movie? These were like little Manhattan kids. So I'm sure they've seen our rated real life by the time they're sneaking into our rated movies. They they passed a guy pooping in the middle of the street on the way to the theater.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You know Manhattan, clearly. It's nothing but guys pooping in the middle of the street. That's what it's famous for. Can you imagine if Kill Bill was your first R-rated movie? Man. I'm really glad that Speed was your first R-rated movie. Man. I'm really glad that Speed was my first. That's the shallow end of the R-rated pool. Yeah, that is not exactly expert mode.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Or even if Kill Bill was your first Tarantino. Yeah. I'm really glad I started like, linearly through that world. The Tarantino verse. I'm gonna say Pulp Fiction world. The Tarantino verse. I mean, as a pulp fiction, it was my first Tarantino. Yeah. Well, you know, with the obvious exception of things that he had his hands on the script of,
Starting point is 00:06:57 for example, Crimson Tide. Exactly. It is amazing to think about Tarantino. Doing punch ups on a Jerry Brookheimer movie. Yeah, like I just I would love to be a fly on the wall for that meeting. Do you think the PA is like so double the Coke for this conference room or or what? God it's just a conference room made out of coke. It's like, it looks like an igloo.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You know, when you go to a tavern and they'll have the pool tables there, and instead of the little tiny cubes of chalk, they'll have the big b-hive of chalk. There's those b-hives of coke just all around the room. Yeah, speaking of substances at them, as we as we wound up our previous episode, which is now famous for our excellent impression of young Picard. Is that why we've lost half of our viewership? Must be. You've floated the idea of us getting shithouse drunk while reviewing an episode of this
Starting point is 00:08:16 show. And a fistful of data is maybe the one to do it for. Are you proposing that we do just that, Ben? Well, I'm wondering if you're prepared to do it, if we decide to do it. I mean, this is such a unique episode in so many ways. And one way that it seems very unique to me is when I sit down to watch an episode of Star Trek,
Starting point is 00:08:46 the next generation to review it for this program, I'll usually fill up like a page and a half to an entire page of notes. I wrote six things down for this episode. I've literally filled up six lines on a piece of paper. That leaves a lot of time for drinking. Yeah, so I'm wondering if we just lean into this one being pretty loose, maybe we'll fail, maybe we'll succeed, but it's probably a worthy experiment, right?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I think that's a great idea. I'm gonna go grab a bottle and a couple of cans bring it into Studio C and then I'll be ready to get started with season six episode eight a fistful of datas. every star piece of this is a true scientific truth or a historical truth or personal truth. Ben, I grabbed two cans, two rainier tell boys, a bottle of roca-patrone tequila and a shot glass. So I'm going to,... What are you drinking? Yes. I am drinking Applejack and Coke. Um... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm just gonna be drinking straight apple jack, which is a 40% alcohol, full spirit drink. Do you have the bottle?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah. All right, we'll slug some back with me because I'm gonna drink some of this tequila and then we'll get into it. All right, we're doing slugs. Yeah. Ziggie's like, Ziggie's like, you know, you know, you know, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Oh, okay. I know I... Okay. The, I think the episode starts with Picard doing some flute practice. And it's one of those like Picard can't get a moment of downtime type of scenes. Yeah, he really needs to put a sock on the door. Like, even... If Picard puts a sock on the door, who do people suspect he is burning down with? Even mid-range hotels have do not disturb, you know, tags that you can put out there. Oh, I was on this trip, man. And one of the hotels we stayed in did not have the tag.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And you know, we travel with film equipment. I'm leaving, I'm occasionally leaving things that have like a walking around value of $50,000 in my room. And I do not want the maid service coming in. Like I'm not saying that the maids are gonna steal. I just don't want anybody not me going anywhere near that stuff. And, uh, ma'am, it burned my toast. Every time somebody, every time I came back and like somebody had been in and
Starting point is 00:11:59 done something. My wife and I, uh I many years ago took a a weekender down to Portland and stayed in a fancy hotel. We wanted to treat ourselves. It was our anniversary. So we go down there. And this was a hotel of the level that had turned down service in the evening. Right. This was not something that I had ever experienced personally
Starting point is 00:12:27 before. And so when we came back from whatever dinner or drinks that we went out for, I didn't think to put anything on the door. And so when my wife and I did... We're doing husband and wife things. Yeah. There was a moment,
Starting point is 00:12:51 there was a perfect moment, you could call it, a moment of pure enjoyment. That was the moment that the door opened. Ha, ha, ha. And my eyes met with a cleaning person, a cleaning person with a knowing look. Well, who then quietly shut the door and left me to my embarrassment. I can only imagine. Well, Picard is playing a flute that's not going to make a mess on his chin. mess on his chin. And the doc there comes in, data, and Jordy come in.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And I guess what's going on is the entrepreneur has showed up early for an assignment. And so they've got some time to kill before the ship that they're rendezvousing with comes in. And that's always a recipe for trouble. And Jordy and Data are gonna do some experiment. They would allow DataTax as an emergency backup and the event of a shipwine system is failure.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They wanna turn him into a raid. Yeah, exactly. Or like one of those batteries that you keep under your desk and you plug your computer into. Yeah. In case the power goes out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It doesn't seem like that would be a workable solution. Like, we've seen the computer core. It is really big. Yeah, but soon it's working on a whole different level. Yeah, that's just... And they're not trying to have him do the whole ship, just certain parts and just in case, you know. Yeah, this is something that I can get behind.
Starting point is 00:14:33 You want a little bit of a feel safe here? It's possible, we might even be able to run some secondary systems through data. It's a nice idea, but the captain really doesn't want to get into the details. He's like, yes, I get the idea, Mr. Levant, thank you. Please proceed. I don't care about the details, get out of here.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's sort of that thing where like he's given permission for a thing, but can't stop being asked for permission to do the thing that he's already given. I already getting a little slurry there, buddy. Yeah, oops. You know what I mean though, right? Like he's given the crew permission to go about their business. Why are they asking him for further permission?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Like go ahead. I think this is one of those things that happens in movies, but maybe not in real life. Yeah. I think that sometimes, sometimes the way it happens in real life, if there's some event that my wife thinks we should both attend and I have a reason not to and I managed to talk her into it, the conversation definitely lasts like 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:15:32 longer than the moment at which she decides to be okay with me not going. You know? Yeah. But that's more like, we're cool, right? We're good? Yeah, we're good. Okay, I'm just so we're good. Like, you're not, we're not gonna be, we're not gonna be not good three days from now and I didn't know, right? You know? No amount of, yeah, after asking,
Starting point is 00:15:55 are we good? Ever feels like a satisfying amount though. That's the thing. Yeah, it's frustrating. So then, Worf comes in and he's like, hey, we should be doing some security drills, right? And Picard's like, no, I'm done. Picard's like, clearly, I saw how you let Ferringi take over the ship last time.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, please do some drills. Yeah, well, so Picard is much more the Denzel to Worf's Hackman in this scene. It feels like the whole crew needs a kick in the ass or a pat on the back, sir. He's like, let's deal with the Cook's hard attack first and the fucking flare up in the kitchen and then we'll do the drills. And it works like, all right, fine. Well, I'll do some, I'll like crawl around in the phaser ranks and scrub them out How about that?
Starting point is 00:16:47 Mr. Wolf Is there some reason why you're trying to give yourself more work? We have some downtime chill the fuck out Yeah, you get all this time. Why don't you take it dude? You don't have to be working all the time Just chill out like me. I'm laying back in the cut, playing this flute. This is my only hobby, I live for this. Yeah, he should be playing like a Bob Marley song on that flute.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Worse like, do you know Meloda? It's like trying to play three little birds here, buddy. Smash cut to Worph walking back into his apartment and plopping himself down on the, one of the, one of the rare normal chairs he has in there. And Alex Andrew, being really excited to learn that Worf doesn't have work. I can go. Worf's one of those guys who has decorated an apartment because he'd never once guests there. Like, there is only one very small, normal couch.
Starting point is 00:18:05 The rest of them are wildly uncomfortable. It sends a message, and that message is, don't sit down. He has one bark-alounder. He totally has the dad's chair. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Alexander is pretty pumped because this means they get to do the holodeck hang that he's been looking forward to.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And he plops a cowboy hat down on Warrf's head. And that is our cut to commercial or rolling package or whatever. This is the first of several warfires to commercial that we get this ebbs. That means we drink, Ben. Yeah, drink for every warfires, I love it. Brittany's gonna be so proud of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Ben, I can't remember any point in which Alexander has stated an interest in the old west. And yet here we are. It's the back to the future three problem. Like, why are we here? It's clearly an interest from the writer's room. It's clearly a wouldn't it be fun if type story. There's no reason for us to be here and that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Like fuck, at least set it up a little bit like like downrange by a character in the In the Voyager series one of the characters is really into like Like old-timey serialized sci-fi so So they have like this, this kind of like Rick laser gun, kind of character where it's all black and white and they're, you know, it's- Rick laser gun was by poor name, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. And you know, it's fun. It's like a fun thing. It's fun sets, fun characters, a fun original thing. And they like build a world. And this is clearly like, there's some downtime at one of the back lots, fake western towns, and we can use it if you want to. You know, the writer's going like, oh, I got some ideas for that. Oh, I love this.
Starting point is 00:20:29 This is going to be so great. This is going to be as good as back to the future three. My favorite back to the future. Said no one ever. Look at this, Adam. The original title was the good, the bad, and the cling on. Boy, wonder why they and the cling on. Boy, wonder why they chose against that winner. So the idea is that Alexander and Wurf are gonna go have some fun times doing some holodeck.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It's a video game. It's like red dead redemption on the holodeck. And Worf is the sheriff, and Alexander is the deputy. And they're gonna have a little adventure, trying to capture the fastest gun in the West or whatever. the the fastest gun in the West or whatever. It um, I mean, you sound like Kermit for a second there. Well, I'm, I'm a little drunk. There.
Starting point is 00:21:38 So far this is a great point and I'm really on the edge of my seat to see how you wrap it up. I mean, you know. a great point and I'm really on the edge of my seat to see how you wrap it up. I mean, you know. Yeah, yeah. They, I mean, this is not a visual atrocity, you know? Like, wharf looks good in a cowboy suit. Alexander C. That's fun to see them in their cowboy suits.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yeah, like they don't look dumb, like they could easily look. You only get that feeling for a moment though, before we devolve. I love it. My love is a piece of clothing, too, for that which is longer than I said, let me see.
Starting point is 00:22:23 How they move, you're not the boy, yeah. Jirty plugs a like a lamp cord Which longer than us at the PC. Jordy plugs a like a lamp cord into the side of Data's head in the engineering section. And that is what precipitates all of this at them. They plug the jumper cables from Data's brains into the computer and they're swapping their swapping information. They've set up the rate array inside Data's brains. Establishing computer link up.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And he starts glitching out a little bit. Let's see what you can do with the secondary systems. Try gravitational control. Initiating gravity. What's wrong? I just feel like there is no time when data and Jordi are doing something that sounds boring. That doesn't mean data and Jordi are doing something that is going to cause big problems. And frequently, whenever they have those problems, they don't tell anyone. They don't study what might have caused the problem.
Starting point is 00:23:28 They just sort of disconnect the wires and go about their business doing something else. It's the same inciting incident as the EPS conduits blew out in the cargo bay four from a couple of episodes, you know. Right. The shish's episode. Well, yeah, so this is one of those ones where it's like a slow burn. Like they have a little glitch and it's not obvious the extent to which it has caused a problem.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But the glitch happens and it happens to coincide with Alexander resetting the holiday program because Wharf beat it too quickly, essentially. Yeah, like literally. Wharf and Alexander walk into the saloon. They find the antagonist in there with his boots up on a table. Slegging back whiskey, talking shit to Warf. And Warf is like, fuck you man, I'm taking you to jail. You are under arrest.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And basically like swings a chair around in a circle, takes everyone down, and basically ends the mission. Yeah. He's like, this is great. ends the mission. Yeah. He's like, this is great. I love this. Yeah, credits roll. I would do this all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's a little bit akin to his calisthenics, right? It's Western calisthenics. That's what he's doing. He's like, I could get behind this. Yeah, it's fun stuff. Like, Worf is definitely in. It was a little uneasy at first because as they walked into town, there
Starting point is 00:25:05 was a sex worker up on the balcony of one of the buildings. Alexander let slip that Lieutenant Barkley had something to do with helping him program this. How wildly inappropriate is that? First of all, Barkley should have his holodeck credentials removed entirely after he even be able to go on the same deck as the holodecks. And he definitely shouldn't be helping Alexander. Yeah. That's a terrible idea. We've taken we've taken a lot of shit for jokes that we've
Starting point is 00:25:44 made on this show. Over the years, about the way this show puts its foot in this creepy area. From time to time, this might be the creepiest time in the entire run of the show. And we are late in the series. What I wish we got that we didn't was like the cut back to Wharf and he's just shuddering. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy. Yeah, just like cut to commercial and like just a little moment in the like midst of the commercial, you know, they do that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah. Wharf, wharf like severing the head of a sleeping barkley with one of his knives, and then like it's never commented on, barkley is never back on the show. Worf, Worf silently like opens up a torpedo bay. Yeah, places barkley. Yeah, places barkley's parties, parties, parties, parties, and sides, closes the lid.
Starting point is 00:26:45 What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem?
Starting point is 00:26:54 What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem?
Starting point is 00:27:02 What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? in a perfect position to do all the murdering he wants. Yeah. What's stopping him? Nothing is stopping him. Honour, I think. I mean, he did murder that one clang on, right? Is there anything more honorable than murdering Barkley? It's practically a mercy killing. Yeah, Barkley doesn't doesn't want this life that you're taking from him. He's practically a mercy killing. Yeah, Berkeley doesn't want this life that you're taking from him. He's practically like placing your hands around his throat.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He wants a way out. He just can't do it himself. So they wind up, what do they do? They arrest the bad guy and they are helped in this adventure by Council Troy who has decided to join the game in some really distractingly good-looking leather pants She's got like mom leather pants You know they're really high-waisted. I'm into that look, man.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, me too. I say that Marina Sertis basically steals the show in this episode. She is doing a whole different kind of acting from everybody else, chewing the scenery. Basically, once again, making the case for, I should be a much more prominent character. Listen to you defend it. Alexander in this scene is like, I invited Councillor Troy. She loves western stories. Oh really? Ben. When you have to have dialogue defend your story choices instead of like a character's natural inclination. Like you are in the weeds on your
Starting point is 00:28:47 script, I think. And that, and this was nearly unforgivable, I thought, like, what's the reason Troy's there? Of course, she likes Westerns. Let's tell everyone. Like it's telling instead of showing. And maybe so upset. It would have been pretty great if he'd turned and maybe so upset. It would have been pretty great if he turned to, if he turned to Warp and said, I invited Councillor Troy. She likes chocolate and westerns. Those two things,
Starting point is 00:29:13 those are the only things about her. My, my child doesn't know anyone, and he knows that. How interesting would it have been if it was Beverly instead of Troy? If they have to use one of the female leads. And maybe Beverly has a thirst for killing. And that's why she likes westerns.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I mean, Troy kind of does. She definitely fucks around with that rifle. Yeah, but does she ever murder anyone? I think she does. Yeah. That's got to be fun, right? I have been walking my wife to the ferry in the morning. She takes the ferry to work a lot. Yeah. And we stop at a... No, no, that's the Staten Island ferry. There's a new blue and white one for Brooklyn. But we stopped at this coffee shop that also sells potted plants and flowers.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And in the window, there's a terracotta flower pot with a plant in it right now that is just like a cylinder with a pair of tits. And I was looking at it today at the other day and I was like that's pretty much what we've been saying Troy is for an entire podcast now. It's what we've been saying she is because that is the way she's been presented. Exactly. I'm not saying I endorse that. I'm just saying this terracotta pot reminds me of the of the Troy of reality and not the Troy that I wish we really got.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah, indeed. Hey, Ben, I don't want to make your editing decisions for you, but I think I'm going to take another slug here and maybe we go to interstitial. Adam, what do you say we take a slug and we'll play some music right after that and then as we come back we'll be recovering from the slug of booze. Perfect. I am the cutesy ball. You will assist us.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I am the cutesy ball. You are the ball. You know what I tried to take that shot the card style? Like an overly filled glass and just a very big gulp. Ooh! Giddy up. You can't drink like the card. No one can. That was a shot too big.
Starting point is 00:31:40 That's a shot that's bigger than I would like to take. At some point in here, the doctor is getting ready to stage you play. And she's trying to rope the captain into playing a small part, which is like one of those, one of those great throw-away scenes that's just like, the doctor is the only person who can get away with this, but she basically does something that is wildly insulting to the captain.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah. Like, he basically is trying to like say, no, no, no, I can't do the play. Like, there's no way I can memorize a leading part. Anyway, I'm not much of an actor. And she's like, no, no, you're not the lead, buddy. Yeah, you're the janitor. I was such an inseparable only child, Adam, that when I did the play in middle school,
Starting point is 00:32:31 I did the play two years in a row. And neither time was either lead, but I basically, and I went to a small enough middle school that people who are willing to be in the play were valuable enough that they got to be in the play were valuable enough that they got to be in the play. And the way that worked out was the drama teacher kind of convincing me that my role was more important than it was. Oh, no. I think back on that and just I hate my guts. The one thing you don't want to do is give a middle schooler confidence at any point.
Starting point is 00:33:10 She had to cut a scene from my, I guess it was my eighth grade play in which I had a lot more lines than my seventh grade play because I didn't learn the lines because I thought I was such a big dog. Oh, that you would just improvise? Yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah. In my defense, though, like any amount of reducing that play was probably a good idea
Starting point is 00:33:40 because I was cast as Agamemnon in regarding Electra. And the way they made me look like a Greek king was put dark makeup on me and dye my hair darker. Oh no. Yeah. Oh no, man. Hashtag problematic, Adam. Oh. I certainly hope that all visual evidence of this is gone.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Me too. Please let there be no yearbook pictures. Of this we pray. That could severely compromise your political aspirations. Yeah, oh, definitely. Yeah. In the woke future that I run for office in, I mean, Adam, I'm not running for office because I don't think straight white males deserve any more political power than they've already gotten. Not only that, but do you
Starting point is 00:34:39 think anyone gives a shit about anything anyone does when they run for office anymore? Forget it. I've played the best parts in the biggest plays. Everybody talks about my skills as a middle school play performer. People rave about my black face, they've about it. Everybody thought I was very convincing as a Greek. Yeah. I have Greek friends. Some of my best friends are Greek. They say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Like a picture of him eating a giant euro. I love the Greeks. But it's like a taco bowl like with Euro meat inside. People made a lot of fun to 2016. They said 2016 was the worst year. 2016 fought back, man. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We're going to be dealing with 2016 for a long time. Yeah. I mean, well, for as long as we live, which is sort of a sliding scale, I think, at this point. Seattle, man, not a great place to live over the last week. No, you're in great circle territory, aren't you? Every time I would pass a chain link fence that scene from Terminator 2 would play in my mind. So needless to say, I avoided those fences.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah, you don't want to be a crispy critter going into a fence. Yeah, I avoided walking past playgrounds ringed with chain link fences. I rewatched the most recent Terminator film recently because I needed bad movies to distract me on airplanes. Uh-huh. And about 15 minutes in, I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:42 oh fuck, I've watched this before. And then like 30 minutes in, I was like, wait, have I've watched this before. And then like 30 minutes in, I was like, wait, have I? And then like for the rest of the movie, I was just like bouncing back and forth between those two convictions, which happens a lot with those Marvel superhero movies now, where I can't really remember which ones I've seen and which ones I haven't.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I was like, Yeah, and people are like smashing into each other and you've lost count of how many buildings are blown up. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that the Golden Gate Bridge sustained some damage each time, but whether it's a Marvel film or a new super, a new Terminator film, but like, man, I was lost and I feel like it is such a shame that that happened to that franchise, because Terminator
Starting point is 00:37:29 2 is one of the great movies. I wonder if it can ever be put back on the rails in the same way that aliens is making that attempt, you know? Yeah. I mean, aliens never got so far off that it was like the most recent two terminator films are hot fucking messes. Do you think that they're worse than aliens versus predator? I think of those as like sideline semi-non-canonical movies though.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I refuse to believe that they exist. Yeah, I mean, like, and like, I'm all four, like a crossover movie, like I think that. Have you seen the TNG aliens crossover comic that's coming? No.
Starting point is 00:38:22 That's on the way. That's fun. It's hard for me to imagine a world where wailin' utani corporation and the Federation coexist though. So that should be that should be some interesting canon development. Yeah I'm pumped for that. Um anyways. We should just wrap up the episode in the next couple of minutes and then just continue to riff on sci-fi movies. Have you seen predators? The, uh, the Adrian Brody, the lead, uh, predator film?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Whatever happened to Adrian Brody. I don't know. I saw him in the East Village one time walking around with a couple of buds. Did you follow him into a nail salon? No, this was much later in my career of seeing a famous in public and I didn't do a creepy thing. But he was wearing cargo shorts and a fox racing t-shirt. And he was with a couple of total bros. And I was like, oh, what? Adrian Brody's a bro?
Starting point is 00:39:31 That seems impossible to me. Dude, he's a bro. Yeah. Yeah. Like Toby McGuire, pussy patrol bro, or like just sort of broish, just standard issue bro. Like, I, based on the garb he was wearing in the company he was keeping, I would surmise that Adrian Brody's favorite hang is either buffalo Wild Wings or David and Busters.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Oh no. Yeah. Do better, you think, Brody? I know. Like, how does he explain to his buddies what movies he's in? Cause they're not seeing him, you know? No. How do they know him too?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Like, they didn't see the dark jeeling limited. Ha ha ha. What do they have him too? Like, they no one had the chance to pin the traffic, but really quiet, hypnotic, nodding. So the deal is the, Halideck is the safety's are off, and there is stuff from data's head
Starting point is 00:40:56 leaking into the computer all over the ship, and there is stuff from the, the old west leaking into data. So data's like walking around doing data stuff and talking about y'all and. See, he's spitting into bushes and stuff. Right, yeah, he'd definitely like, Hawks say, Hawks O'Lughi
Starting point is 00:41:18 and do a potted plant in the observation land, which is fun. But what's not fun is that like, wharf is catching bullets in the holiday deck and they're actually going in. Yeah. It's weird. We know data can hold 18,000 thoughts in his head at once.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I mean, he said so when he kisses Jenna. Right. Yet, these are the only two thoughts that cross in mid-air, like the Western theme holodeck and data's cat food choices. It's weird. You just sit tight.
Starting point is 00:41:54 We'll have this all fixed up in time for supper. I mean, they do have fun with this. It takes all the freaks of strength not to look into camera after that before turning away. I feel like the writers have been given a task and they with this episode are presently where we are with our episode, which is like, fuck it. Let's just have fun with this one. I guess.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, I mean, what Ron Moore said about the last episode, which is like... Which is like, it's turning it into a challenge that he has to take. Like, almost as if there's no choice in the matter. Like, this is the story we're doing. We've got to make the best of the circumstance. Like, it feels like a dutiful effort here versus, I don't know, like, what other way is this show made? This episode, I feel like winds up being super influential
Starting point is 00:42:56 on Deep Space Nine and Voyager, both of which really lean on Holodeck hijinks as a premise. really lean on Holodeck hijinks as a premise. And aside from, I guess the Moriarty episode, which is a much more fun way of the Holodeck being dangerous than this, I can't think of other episodes in the series that have that as the idea. But I feel like that's like a, those are the low-oxana episodes of the future, right?
Starting point is 00:43:28 It's like once a season, we've got to have the holidaycturne into a super dangerous place. I feel like the holidayx usage on this show is a total counterpoint to Star Trek as a place. It's a nesting doll to Star Trek as a place. Like it's a nesting doll inside Star Trek as a place that I wish didn't exist
Starting point is 00:43:50 because you can do Holodeck on any show, a form of Holodeck. You could make a show that was Holodeck. I think Black Mirror in many ways is sort of Holodeck as show. Sort of what quantum leap is. Yeah, but keep Holodeck out of my fucking Star Trek. You know?
Starting point is 00:44:09 I want my Applejack separate from my Dr. Pepper. You know what I'm saying? I have some Dr. Pepper here. I could do that. I could see how that tastes. Yeah, let's do it. We don't care if we live or die anymore. Let's take a slug and we'll come back
Starting point is 00:44:24 and we'll get to the we'll get to the end of this story line such as it is. Okay. All right slugging in five four I'm sorry. It's quite hypnotic. It's hypnotic. It's hypnotic. It's hypnotic. Good luck on this bottle, Adam. Oh. Oh. Okay. I'm sure that my wife's friends will appreciate the backwash in the Apple Jack Cocktail set mix for them next time we do that.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Well, you just run that through a bar strainer. Get all those flodders out. All the teeth that have fallen off. Applejack's straight. I'm gonna try it. Applejack's good straight. I've got Applejack. I should go get it in solidarity. It's a... I don't want to mix my Applejack and my tequila and my rainier though. No. That's a recipe for angry wife later.
Starting point is 00:45:30 That's a, that's a recipe for like a, a shoot out of the okay corral inside your stomach. This is one of those days where my wife's going to come home from work and ask me what I did today. That I'm gonna be so embarrassed to tell her about, it's a really bad episode of Star Trek. I'm fucking hammered. It's gonna be embarrassing. There's no way I'm cooking dinner at this point. We, yeah, like we really got back
Starting point is 00:46:02 to our embarrassed roots with this one. This episode ends with a big a big gun fight and at this point data has replaced all of the All of the bad characters in this in this holodeck world like the image of data mm And I guess the the rules that Troy sets up are we've got to what we've got to do is like finish finish the game. Like if we if we finish the the game and and and the story is over, then the program will end. And at that point, like our life will no longer be in danger. But the end of this game is like a big classic Old West gunfight in the center of town with the tumbleweed blowing across in between the two gunmen.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And so they like, they work out like a thing where Marty McFly style, Wharf has a way of defeating bullets that nobody in this time period has ever thought of. But like, this could have been such a scary and interesting fight, right? Because what they're saying is that these bad guys have the capabilities and speed of data. And this is like what we talked about in the last episode, right? Like data should be able to kick a ton of ass in a melee or in any kind of combat because you can move so much faster and and he's so much more accurate.
Starting point is 00:47:45 This is the Neo versus Agent Smith problem. It really is. And they really don't do a lot with that as an idea. This episode asks you to do so much. It asks you to care about Alexander's life because one of the data says kidnapped him and it's a bad sign I think when you're rooting for him to die as a character. It asks you to believe that Wharf can credibly do science which he does by like cracking open a communicator with a little pocket knife.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I mean, he turns a communicator into a personal shield, which is like, if that is possible, yeah, why don't they use that all the time? I've been done a lot earlier. That's amazing. Warf made a huge discovery that just lives on the holiday now. Warf is a genius. It's like having data as the bartender. Like maybe we've slept on Warf for too long.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, maybe Warf, maybe Warf and Jordy should switch jobs and see how that goes for a while. As these data is multiply, I couldn't help but think that he's just doing different Nick Cage impressions with all of them. I'm a police man. See my badge? Like, this is not a knock on Brent Spiner.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I mean, I think this is a specific acting challenge to act eight different ways in one episode. But many of them are very Nick Cagey. I'm a vampire. Kill me. Adam, you are sticking your dick so far into my drunk Shimoda right now. Oh, the way up it. So, she's like, GRANAS! God, is there any impression that you have that isn't two grade levels above one of mine? God, it's so frustrating. I think that that was just because I got a lot louder than you Adam.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah, the key to a good Pacino is getting extremely loud. Yeah. The day is saved, I guess they like finished the gun fight. Yeah, data's bullets bounce off of warps, air sets, personal shielding. What do you see? We cut the chit chat, A-hole. Yeah, there's a fun little comedic
Starting point is 00:50:27 beat with Brent Spiner as Old West saloon whore. You're as handy with the shoot nine as you are with a woman's heart and complete with a golden breast piece. Yeah, yeah, breast loaf. Yeah. It was really like back to the future level breast loaf. And like Troy said before, the program ends when it reaches its natural conclusion, sort of like a two-year-old adventure story. This is a concept that has never been articulated before, right? The idea that a program will end on its own Yeah, I mean that's not really how the Moriarty thing was resolved That's what I'm saying and also if Barkley wrote this episode do you think he had a different conclusion in mind between warf and
Starting point is 00:51:21 and the main holodeck female, I think so. It's all wrapped up. We got a scene of like worth touching. You're just gonna leave that one alone, aren't you, Ben? I wasn't paying attention to him. How dare you. Let's take another slug.
Starting point is 00:51:41 What do you say? Mm. I thought you'd never ask. Okay. Let's take another slug. What do you say? Hmm. I thought you'd never my dosage a little better, but now I just don't care Last shot is almost a redemption for the episode. Oh really? Not quite the the thing that really could have redeemed it in my opinion is It's so it's it is enterprise flying off into the sunset over some planet. But what really could have made this episode, like, dear to my heart, was if there had been a music cue right then,
Starting point is 00:52:38 and it had been eye shot to Sheriff Bob Marley. What is the, what is the galactic equivalent of a of a tumbleweed? Cause that's what I wanted to see roll across the screen as the enterprise saunters off into the sunset. Yeah, I guess like a like a like a meteorite or something. Yeah, tumbling across the screen. McGillum. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Nagilum is far more than a tumbleweed at him. Nagilum's back. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. That Nagilum cameo though. Oh, man. The Gilum killed it in that. They bring a little scout ship meet him at the end.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Did you notice it was called the beco? Yeah, Steve Beco. I wonder if the beco and the beco got confused a lot. Because remember in Slickback 3, the kid ship was named the beco. Like I bet the beco is glad the beco is out of the picture. Yeah, when you're transmitting on subspace, you gotta use the like the NATO alphabet.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Right. What would you say? Right. Biko or Bravo or Victor. Did you like this episode, Adam? Ben, I enjoyed recording the pod about it. But this episode, this is something our viewers, Adam, have been saying from the beginning is like, don't veto the bad ones.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Just do them drunk, they said. So we have. Here we are. Much like rad schools. much like rascals, I think, I think this episode diminishes us as a as people who enjoy Star Trek and and You know like this is a Patrick Stewart joint, right? This is not I don't put this on him like I don't think there's anything, I don't think there's anything directorially that was garbage or sloppy about this.
Starting point is 00:54:47 That's the thing, right? Like, unlike rascals, the directing is tight. Yeah. I just, I just honestly wish that these two episodes had never been made. And I think had they not been, the entire series is lifted as a result. When people talk about the low points of this series, these are the two episodes that
Starting point is 00:55:12 they bring up. And why not? I think that like maybe the thing that brings this episode, in my mind, the thing that brings this episode down maybe more than anything else, Adam, is that they never... Like, the ship never goes into orbit around a planet in a way where somebody could ask data to scan for life forms, you precious little life forms. You know?
Starting point is 00:55:50 I took off my headphones, so just yell really loud when you're done with that. Goddamn you, Ben. How about you, Ben? the challenge of this episode. He does great in this. And you know what sucks is like. Like Marina Circus and Michael Dorn never get fun stuff to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And they got a real fun challenge. Like it's not a good script, but it is a fun challenge as an actor. And I think that it is maybe illuminating of the kind of decisions that the people running this show were making, that they would throw one like this at Dorn and Serdice, not recognizing the kind of talent they were bringing to the table. But they fucking, like, their two rules, they fucking knock out of the park. I think too often and this is not I'm not blaming I'm not bonsaw blaming here
Starting point is 00:57:11 Ben when I say this but But these actors are way too good to be spending so much time across from a child actor every time. Like, how often is Michael Doren getting his own episode and it's with Alexander? How often is Deanna Troy getting her own episode but with like a child actor who's seeing an imaginary friend? Like, can we just have them have adult problems and with adult counterpoints?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Like, there are adult problems that have to do with parenting that aren't this dumb. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, God, I'm excited for Dorn to inhabit this character the way he has. It's not his fault this episode, but I would like him to get into a rated R situation. The scene at the end where he's making- He's Mr. Doubtfire right now.
Starting point is 00:58:18 The scene at the end where he's making finger guns into the mirror though is like the most endearing shit that Orph has ever done. I love that. I love seeing a character like I am alone. I am being a hundred percent myself right now. Yeah. Like I'm walking around with my underpants on because I am alone in the apartment. I am being my true honest unmasked self. And that may be the hardest character to play as an actor, because when we are interacting with other people, we're always putting on a mask. Like the way I interact with you
Starting point is 00:58:57 is totally different from the way I interact with my wife or my colleagues. Like I say different things in different ways. And the like, bending his underpants in his apartment by himself may very well be putting on a cowboy hat and making finger grunts at him. I'm not saying for sure because that's my private life and I'm not going to reveal that here on the podcast. I'm just saying it could, it could happen. And I think you're right, Ben, the most challenging character to play. Very well, maybe, ourselves.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Do you want to see if we have any P1s? Oh, yeah. I think they're going to get what they pay for here. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. Yeah it's extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Adam we have a couple of priority one messages here as it would happen. Oh yeah, should we take a couple poles? Feel like it's been a while. Oh Jesus. I feel like I feel like our P1s paid for this Yeah, yeah, this this bottle of booze brought to you by the The priority one message per shissors this week Purchasers
Starting point is 01:00:23 Here we go. This tequila is starting to taste great. That's the roca petrone, that's the good stuff. It is. Why didn't Northwest tequila fest come back for a sponsorship? Because it isn't next year yet. Like we did that last year. And when it comes back, I'm sure we'll do it again. I would fucking love to do Northwest tequila fest again.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Dude, you should come out for Northwest tequila fest. Because that guy Devlin that runs it is fucking great. He loves our show. And it was a great hang. I would love to drink some agave-based spirits. When they book the dates, I'll let you know when that is. Maybe we can get you out here yeah baby all right our first message we've now replayed the music
Starting point is 01:01:13 bed for p1's like four times we haven't even done the first one our first messages from dwin it's for a Gerido Burrito. What? Surprise! Thanks for hooking me on this podcast, and being the coolest slash drunkest promoted brother, there is my scarved stockpile wasn't enough for a leaning wall or a new Previa to replace your Ruthmobile. So this message will have to do.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It's the gift of a warrior. You're the natural yager of little brothers. Happy very early birthday. Oh. Oh. You know, I haven't really thought about yager being a younger brother. I always imagined the yager being the older brother.
Starting point is 01:02:05 But that's nice. That's a nice compliment. I love it. I also love anybody who goes by any moniker that incorporates burrito because that's my favorite food. I was very concerned about you being overseas for so long, knowing how difficult a difficult tacos can occasionally be to get overseas and understanding completely
Starting point is 01:02:30 how many we eat per week. Right, I mean, I have a... Oh, like, I'm saying. What I'm saying is to call someone a burrito as a great term of endearment. Yes, it's almost the same sentiment as when I call my wife my everything bagel. Oh, oh yeah. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:02:55 To me there is no bagel besides everything, Ben. Oh really? You can get rid of the other bagels. Everything's the only one I need. I go with the onion bagel sometimes. But everything has onion. It does, but more. But sometimes I like the densely onioniness
Starting point is 01:03:13 of the onion bagel. The simplicity of just the straight onion. I could see that. Here's what I'm gonna say. Give me your tap three bagels, Ben. The best bagel I have ever had was an onion bagel with scallion cream cheese. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:03:29 When you go with a variation on the cream cheese, you can really counterpoint the flavor of the bagel in a fun way. It was a stupendous bagel. The second best bagel is, and the most consistently great bagel is the everything Bagel. The second best bagel is, and the most consistently great bagel is the everything bagel. Right. Like cosine for sure. And I'm gonna say this is the problem.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Everything seasoning on a shitty bagel helps. I think that's part of it. Yeah, it brings it up a notch. Let me tell you something Ben, if you ever used everything bagel seasoning on food, for instance, Brussels sprouts? No. That sounds great.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That sounds great. Me and my friends make everything bagel, seasoned Brussels sprouts, and they are the bomb. There's a fancy bar here in New York called Please Don't Tell, and they have a hot dog place in front called Kr cryptogs. Uh-huh and the the cryptog one of the one of the famous cryptog hot dogs has a Has like a cream cheese mixed with everything bagel seasoning Topping. Oh, it's like it's like it's like a standard New York hot dog
Starting point is 01:04:45 with cream cheese blended with everything bagel tapping. Oh, which is really good. Mix it with everything. I think it works. Yeah. Third best bagel is obviously poppy seed bagel. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I think part of it is you're in the bagel basket of the world, and it's hard for me to get a great bagel in Seattle. And so my list might be skewed. I want you to visit Brooklyn with me, man, and we'll go get, like, I'm going to feed you a pumpernickel bagel that's going to like change your world. Can't wait. It's going to be a pumpernical bagel that's gonna change your world. Can't wait. It's gonna be a pumpernical bagel. You're gonna be like, don't order me a pumpernical bagel.
Starting point is 01:05:29 That's exactly what I would say. They're just giving me a little packet of Philadelphia cream cheese that should cost five cents as the spread, and I have to do that with a plastic knife. Fuck you Ben, and then you're gonna eat it and you're gonna be like, all right. I see your point. I can't wait to be proven wrong. Do we have another priority one Adam? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ben, the semester's is from a junior engineer who is most definitely not writing about
Starting point is 01:06:05 bagels. It is for O-Captain, my API captain. The message goes like this. You had me at initiating saucy separ- God damn it, I'm too drunk for this. Okay, take two. The message goes like this, you had me initiating saucy separation. Or some other horrible pun.
Starting point is 01:06:31 You're the Kevin to my Roshan, the Kugie sweater to my Wesley, the cheery, brainwashed riker to my randia's fuck Row Laren. What? No one else's nuck is half as righteous as yours, and there's no one else with whom I'd rather make dick jokes. Happy birthday, Steve. I love you. Parmak Kai.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Damn. Just when you think all of the reference comparisons had been done a junior-engineer drops in and and gives us some science. Yeah, that that really blew blew a lot of a lot of situations right out of the water Sassy separation I find I find when the temperatures is too high on the stove, you'll get saucy separation. Then, I've got to turn that down. Yeah, but maybe turn it up in the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:07:34 The saucy is always connecting with the star drive in the bedroom when the temperature goes up. Indeed. Oh man, that might be the sexiest P1 we've ever had. Yeah. Wow. Good job, junior engineer. Congratulations, Steve. Happy birthday. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Sounds like you got a good one in your junior engineer. Dang. Very knowing. That's like a... That's like an Ashley Judd level junior engineer. Dang, very knowing. That's like a, that's like an Ashley Judd level junior engineer W slash R slash T hotness of P1. There's a Star Trek knowledge here that I think if either of us started to get from our wives would be like, what happened? Like, we're so used to over the years, both of our lives just not getting, not understanding, not watching.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Like if they started to drop references at this rate, I think we'd feel like something was up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What did I do? Yeah, I mean, this is like the same thing, like if I had your bus showed up at home suddenly with a huge bouquet of flowers, like our wives would have the same, like what are you trying to compensate for? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Right. We're not saying that about a junior engineer. I want to make that clear. We're talking about for right now. Right. We're not saying that about a junior engineer. I want to make that clear. We're talking about ourselves right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And basically how much we think Steve has hit the jackpot. Yeah, good one, Steve. Well, if you would like to announce just how good you have it
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Starting point is 01:12:28 Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Well, aside from myself, Adam. Yeah. I wanted to give a special citation in scene chewing to one Mr. Spiner come up rent. I just, I had, like, and I like, I, I acknowledged how great Michael Dorn and, and, and Marina Service are in this episode already. I think that they like took a, an acting plate of shit and turned it into a meal. Like Spiner's
Starting point is 01:13:18 given a much easier job here, but man, he shows his virtuosity when he is playing the henchman of the Old West bad guy. Like, he gets like half a second takes when the camera cuts around to all the guys with guns in the big showdown in the end, and he just does so fucking much with them. Like, he makes each one of those characters a different guy. It's great. It's so good. It's so Shimoda. I think I would appreciate him more if he weren't clumping, you know? Like if it wasn't the Fatty's fart too. Oh yes my dear man. My baby. Oh, yes, my dear man, my baby. Oh. Well, if it wasn't six of them,
Starting point is 01:14:06 I could appreciate them individually in a way that they're deserving, you know? But instead, it's a trick. It's like, it's split screening interactions between them. It's a couple here and there's with card shuffling. Like, we know Brent Spiner's a great actor and I want to appreciate him, but I also want to appreciate him without the tricks and it's hard to appreciate how good of an actor he is when they're doing the
Starting point is 01:14:31 stuff when they're clumping him up. Well I a little bit resent you shitting on my drunk Shimoda Adam. Oh I'm, but I didn't mean to shit on your Shemota. I didn't mean to Shemota shit, man. But what's your Shemota? I am also giving my Shemota to data. I'm a lieutenant in the police department. I'm in the middle of a homicide investigation. Try to get my prescription. Please. Well, I guess I'm giving it to the version that Brent Spiner plays of Nick Cage who is inside the jail cell shuffling cards. Have you ever been dragged to the sidewalk and being told you? PAST BLOOD!
Starting point is 01:15:14 Very specifically, there is a moment where his sleeves are rolled up and he's doing the card shuffling trick. And he has got prodigious arm hair. Like, we have seen data's bear arms before, and they do not look like this. It looks like he has coated his forearms and candle wax, and then like dump them in a barrel of, of like, in a dumpster out and back of a supercut. Like, he is fully enrobed in forearm hair in a way that was like a choice, right? He's got Robin Williams level forearm hair. You know, like in Bloodsport,
Starting point is 01:15:57 how they tape up their fists and then like dip the tape in glass to weaponize the fists. Like that's what he did with his forearms. He just rolled it in a dust-panful of hair clippings. That's what he's got. Yeah, yeah, I'd love to see the ECU on his face as he's rolling his arm through that.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Errrr. Yeah, because God, you know that's gross, right? That's gross for any actor. And then you gotta go through that. Like the application's one thing, but the removal is quite another. So that can't be enjoyable. So I guess I'm giving it to Spiner for the forearm hair,
Starting point is 01:16:37 but I guess the show for the choice. And also, I don't know. Let's make it easy for listener Colin, who does our submoda lineup at the end of every season. Yeah. Brent Spiner, right? Yeah, I think it's Brent Spiner for both of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Brent could easily say no to this, if you like, and it's such a minor thing that it shows to do. Like, you don't understand, man, like, the sort of method I'm into is arm hair method. I'm just not gonna be able to get into this character without it. I'm sure you understand. What do we have coming up in the next episode, Ben?
Starting point is 01:17:20 The next episode is season six, episode nine, quality of life, data risks, per card, and Jordy's lives, in order to protect a young living machine. Do you remember this episode, Adam? This is the exocomp episode, yeah? Yeah, that's that exocomp shit. It's basically a pop it with a turkey-based around the front of it. A pop-al.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Yeah, I remember this episode. If you had had a veto, Adam, would you have deployed it upon this episode? I feel like I would be in a refractory period after shooting two videos in a row. Like, I would have just been too tired. Too tired for a third, Ben. Yeah, that's one thing that really, I mean, I'm not trying to say anything about my inadequacy or whatever,
Starting point is 01:18:16 but in movies when when they roll over for seconds and thirds, I'm always like, who does that? These are people who clearly don't enjoy sleep as much as I do. Hahaha. Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be tell this either because I like the exo-comp episode. Yeah. They got funny uniforms, fun little gadgets. All exo-comps all the time yeah
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