The Greatest Generation - Back to the Future-Level Breast Loaf (S6E8)
Episode Date: May 3, 2017When Geordi tries to jump start the Entrepreneur with Data’s battery, it causes some glitches in Worf’s playthrough of Red Dead Redemption. Now all the NPCs are Data, and Data is all the NPCs, and... nobody can find the reset button. How deep is the shallow end of the R-rated pool? Is there anything more honorable than murdering Barclay? Its the episode where we play our own drinking game. #Problematic #BonsallBlaming
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episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Welcome to the greatest generation, a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a
little bit embarrassed to be doing a Star Trek podcast.
I'm one of your hosts, Benjamin R. Harrison.
I'm the other host, Adam Pryanaka.
Is this a Star Trek podcast anymore, Ben?
It seems like it's mostly a children's program
with dirty jokes. I wonder if they started to get like demo information and they were like,
oh, a bunch of nine-year-olds are watching this show. Maybe we should try to write more for them.
Maybe we should try to write more for them. Except when I was nine, I didn't ever want to watch age,
appropriate, programming.
I always wanted to watch Batman or Speed or whatever,
like when it was coming out.
Like I wanted to see movies and TV that were not appropriate.
I think Speed might have been the first rated R film I convinced my parents
to let me see. Speed was the first rated R film I snuck into.
Whoa. Yeah. What did you rate first R rated movie by the way also? Like it's totally harmless.
It's so harmless. It's inexplicably rated R. Yeah. Like I guess the grossest part of that movie
is in the tunnel when the light knocks that guys head off.
Oh, spoiler alert.
What are you gonna do, Ben?
What are you gonna do?
Did you ever, as like a college kid or whatever,
have the experience of a couple of 12-year-old
rascals coming up to you and asking you to buy R-rated movie tickets for them?
Never. That never happened to me. Though I remember asking others when I was that age.
I have had both the kid that wants me to buy the booze and the kid that wants me to get them the R-rated movie ticket.
And I'm so down to do the R-rated movie ticket.
I'm not down to do the booze.
Yeah, you don't go to jail for the movie ticket thing.
I mean, do you? I don't know.
But...
I think that one reason that kids don't ask me for
For stuff like that is because I don't look old enough to provide it
I got in I was in college I think
Maybe just I don't remember exactly what year this came out, but I saw I went to see kill bill and
My friends were already in the theater and so I was like by myself outside the theater buying tickets and some kids like,
well hey dude.
I bought them the tickets and then they happen to be going through the ticket line, you know,
getting their tickets ripped at the same time as me. And the Usher was like, are you guys here with
And the Usher was like, are you guys here with somebody old enough? And they were like, and I was like, yep, that's me.
Wow.
I've provided two forms of coverage for them.
You're a movie theater guardian angel.
And the Usher definitely was wise.
You don't look wise.
But let it go.
Let it happen.
Did you get the impression that Kill Bill would be these kids first, our rated movie?
These were like little Manhattan kids.
So I'm sure they've seen our rated real life by the time they're sneaking into our rated movies.
They they passed a guy pooping in the middle of the street
on the way to the theater.
You know Manhattan, clearly.
It's nothing but guys pooping in the middle of the street.
That's what it's famous for.
Can you imagine if Kill Bill was your first R-rated movie?
Man. I'm really glad that Speed was your first R-rated movie. Man.
I'm really glad that Speed was my first.
That's the shallow end of the R-rated pool.
Yeah, that is not exactly expert mode.
Or even if Kill Bill was your first Tarantino.
Yeah.
I'm really glad I started like, linearly through that world.
The Tarantino verse. I'm gonna say Pulp Fiction world. The Tarantino verse.
I mean, as a pulp fiction, it was my first Tarantino.
Yeah.
Well, you know, with the obvious exception of things
that he had his hands on the script of,
for example, Crimson Tide.
Exactly.
It is amazing to think about Tarantino.
Doing punch ups on a Jerry
Brookheimer movie. Yeah, like I just I would love to be a fly on the wall for
that meeting. Do you think the PA is like so double the Coke for this
conference room or or what? God it's just a conference room made out of coke.
It's like, it looks like an igloo.
You know, when you go to a tavern
and they'll have the pool tables there,
and instead of the little tiny cubes of chalk,
they'll have the big b-hive of chalk.
There's those b-hives of coke just all around the room. Yeah, speaking of substances at them, as we as we wound up our
previous episode, which is now famous for our excellent impression of young Picard. Is that why we've lost half of our viewership?
Must be.
You've floated the idea of us getting shithouse drunk while reviewing an episode of this
show.
And a fistful of data is maybe the one to do it for.
Are you proposing that we do just that, Ben?
Well, I'm wondering if you're prepared to do it,
if we decide to do it.
I mean, this is such a unique episode in so many ways.
And one way that it seems very unique to me
is when I sit down to watch an episode of Star Trek,
the next generation to review it for this program, I'll usually fill up like a
page and a half to an entire page of notes. I wrote six things down for this
episode. I've literally filled up six lines on a piece of paper.
That leaves a lot of time for drinking.
Yeah, so I'm wondering if we just lean into this one
being pretty loose, maybe we'll fail,
maybe we'll succeed, but it's probably
a worthy experiment, right?
I think that's a great idea.
I'm gonna go grab a bottle and a couple of cans
bring it into Studio C and then I'll be ready to get started with season six
episode eight a fistful of datas.
every star piece of this is a true scientific truth or a historical truth or personal truth. Ben, I grabbed two cans, two rainier tell boys, a bottle of roca-patrone tequila and a
shot glass. So I'm going to,... What are you drinking? Yes. I am drinking Applejack and Coke.
Um... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm just gonna be drinking straight apple jack, which is a 40% alcohol, full spirit drink.
Do you have the bottle?
Yeah.
All right, we'll slug some back with me
because I'm gonna drink some of this tequila
and then we'll get into it.
All right, we're doing slugs.
Yeah.
Ziggie's like, Ziggie's like,
you know, you know, you know, you know.
Oh, okay. I know I...
Okay.
The, I think the episode starts with Picard doing some flute practice. And it's one of those like Picard can't get a moment of downtime type of scenes.
Yeah, he really needs to put a sock on the door.
Like, even...
If Picard puts a sock on the door, who do people suspect he is burning down with?
Even mid-range hotels have do not disturb, you know, tags that you can put out there. Oh, I was on this trip, man.
And one of the hotels we stayed in did not have the tag.
And you know, we travel with film equipment.
I'm leaving, I'm occasionally leaving things that have like a walking around value of
$50,000 in my room.
And I do not want the maid service coming in.
Like I'm not saying that the maids are gonna steal.
I just don't want anybody not me going anywhere near that stuff.
And, uh, ma'am, it burned my toast.
Every time somebody, every time I came back and like somebody had been in and
done something.
My wife and I, uh I many years ago took a
a weekender down to Portland and
stayed in a fancy hotel. We wanted to treat ourselves.
It was our anniversary. So we go down there.
And this was a hotel of the level that
had turned down service in the evening.
Right. This was not something that I had ever experienced personally
before.
And so when we came back from whatever dinner or drinks
that we went out for, I didn't think
to put anything on the door.
And so when my wife and I did...
We're doing husband and wife things.
Yeah.
There was a moment,
there was a perfect moment, you could call it,
a moment of pure enjoyment.
That was the moment that the door opened.
Ha, ha, ha.
And my eyes met with a cleaning person, a cleaning person with a knowing look.
Well, who then quietly shut the door and left me to my embarrassment. I can only imagine.
Well, Picard is playing a flute that's not going to make a mess on his chin.
mess on his chin. And the doc there comes in, data, and Jordy come in.
And I guess what's going on is the entrepreneur
has showed up early for an assignment.
And so they've got some time to kill
before the ship that they're rendezvousing with comes in.
And that's always a recipe for trouble.
And Jordy and Data are gonna do some experiment.
They would allow DataTax as an emergency backup
and the event of a shipwine system is failure.
They wanna turn him into a raid.
Yeah, exactly.
Or like one of those batteries
that you keep under your desk
and you plug your computer into.
Yeah.
In case the power goes out.
Yeah.
It doesn't seem like that would be a workable solution.
Like, we've seen the computer core.
It is really big.
Yeah, but soon it's working on a whole different level.
Yeah, that's just...
And they're not trying to have him do the whole ship,
just certain parts and just in case, you know.
Yeah, this is something that I can get behind.
You want a little bit of a feel safe here?
It's possible, we might even be able to run
some secondary systems through data.
It's a nice idea, but the captain really doesn't want
to get into the details.
He's like, yes, I get the idea, Mr. Levant, thank you.
Please proceed.
I don't care about the details, get out of here.
It's sort of that thing where like he's given permission
for a thing, but can't stop being asked for permission
to do the thing that he's already given.
I already getting a little slurry there, buddy.
Yeah, oops.
You know what I mean though, right?
Like he's given the crew permission to go about their business.
Why are they asking him for further permission?
Like go ahead.
I think this is one of those things that happens in movies,
but maybe not in real life.
Yeah.
I think that sometimes, sometimes the way it happens
in real life, if there's some event that my wife thinks
we should both attend and I have a reason
not to and I managed to talk her into it, the conversation definitely lasts like 15 minutes
longer than the moment at which she decides to be okay with me not going. You know?
Yeah.
But that's more like, we're cool, right? We're good? Yeah, we're good. Okay, I'm just so we're good.
Like, you're not, we're not gonna be,
we're not gonna be not good three days from now
and I didn't know, right?
You know?
No amount of, yeah, after asking,
are we good?
Ever feels like a satisfying amount though.
That's the thing.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
So then, Worf comes in and he's like,
hey, we should be doing some security drills, right?
And Picard's like, no, I'm done.
Picard's like, clearly, I saw how you let Ferringi take over the ship last time.
Yeah, please do some drills.
Yeah, well, so Picard is much more the Denzel to Worf's Hackman in this scene.
It feels like the whole crew needs a kick in the ass or a pat on the back, sir.
He's like, let's deal with the Cook's hard attack first and the fucking flare up in the kitchen
and then we'll do the drills.
And it works like, all right, fine.
Well, I'll do some, I'll like crawl around in the phaser ranks and scrub them out
How about that?
Mr. Wolf
Is there some reason why you're trying to give yourself more work? We have some downtime chill the fuck out
Yeah, you get all this time. Why don't you take it dude?
You don't have to be working all the time
Just chill out like me.
I'm laying back in the cut, playing this flute.
This is my only hobby, I live for this.
Yeah, he should be playing like a Bob Marley song on that flute.
Worse like, do you know Meloda?
It's like trying to play three little birds here, buddy.
Smash cut to Worph walking back into his apartment and plopping himself down on the,
one of the, one of the rare normal chairs he has in there.
And Alex Andrew, being really excited to learn that Worf doesn't have work.
I can go.
Worf's one of those guys who has decorated an apartment because he'd never once guests there.
Like, there is only one very small, normal couch.
The rest of them are wildly uncomfortable.
It sends a message, and that message is, don't sit down.
He has one bark-alounder.
He totally has the dad's chair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Alexander is pretty pumped because this means they get to do the holodeck hang that
he's been looking forward to.
And he plops a cowboy hat down on Warrf's head.
And that is our cut to commercial or rolling package or whatever.
This is the first of several warfires to commercial
that we get this ebbs.
That means we drink, Ben.
Yeah, drink for every warfires, I love it.
Brittany's gonna be so proud of us.
Yeah.
Ben, I can't remember any point in which Alexander
has stated an interest in the old west.
And yet here we are.
It's the back to the future three problem.
Like, why are we here?
It's clearly an interest from the writer's room.
It's clearly a wouldn't it be fun if type story.
There's no reason for us to be here and that's the problem.
Like fuck, at least set it up a little bit
like like downrange
by a character in the
In the Voyager series one of the characters is really into like
Like old-timey serialized sci-fi so So they have like this, this kind of like Rick laser gun,
kind of character where it's all black and white
and they're, you know, it's-
Rick laser gun was by poor name, by the way.
Yeah.
And you know, it's fun.
It's like a fun thing.
It's fun sets, fun characters, a fun original thing.
And they like build a world. And this is clearly like, there's some downtime at one of the
back lots, fake western towns, and we can use it if you want to. You know, the writer's going like,
oh, I got some ideas for that.
Oh, I love this.
This is going to be so great.
This is going to be as good as back to the future three.
My favorite back to the future.
Said no one ever.
Look at this, Adam.
The original title was the good, the bad, and the cling on.
Boy, wonder why they and the cling on.
Boy, wonder why they chose against that winner. So the idea is that Alexander and Wurf are gonna go have some fun times doing some holodeck.
It's a video game. It's like red dead redemption on the holodeck.
And Worf is the sheriff, and Alexander is the deputy.
And they're gonna have a little adventure,
trying to capture the fastest gun in the West or whatever.
the the fastest gun in the West or whatever. It um, I mean,
you sound like Kermit for a second there.
Well, I'm, I'm a little drunk.
There.
So far this is a great point and I'm really on the edge of my seat to see how you wrap it up.
I mean, you know. a great point and I'm really on the edge of my seat to see how you wrap it up.
I mean, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
They, I mean, this is not a visual atrocity, you know?
Like, wharf looks good in a cowboy suit.
Alexander C.
That's fun to see them in their cowboy suits.
Yeah, like they don't look dumb,
like they could easily look.
You only get that feeling for a moment though,
before we devolve.
I love it.
My love is a piece of clothing,
too, for that which is longer than I said,
let me see.
How they move, you're not the boy, yeah.
Jirty plugs a like a lamp cord Which longer than us at the PC.
Jordy plugs a like a lamp cord into the side of Data's head in the engineering section.
And that is what precipitates all of this at them.
They plug the jumper cables from Data's brains into the computer and they're swapping
their swapping information. They've set up the rate array inside Data's
brains.
Establishing computer link up.
And he starts glitching out a little bit.
Let's see what you can do with the secondary systems. Try gravitational control.
Initiating gravity.
What's wrong? I just feel like there is no time when data and
Jordi are doing something that sounds boring.
That doesn't mean data and Jordi are doing something that is going to cause big problems.
And frequently, whenever they have those problems, they don't tell anyone.
They don't study what might have caused the problem.
They just sort of disconnect the wires and go about their business doing something else.
It's the same inciting incident as the EPS conduits blew out in the cargo bay four from
a couple of episodes, you know.
Right.
The shish's episode.
Well, yeah, so this is one of those ones where it's like a slow burn.
Like they have a little glitch and it's not obvious the extent to which it has caused
a problem.
But the glitch happens and it happens to coincide with Alexander resetting the holiday
program because Wharf beat it too quickly, essentially.
Yeah, like literally.
Wharf and Alexander walk into the saloon.
They find the antagonist in there with his boots up on a table.
Slegging back whiskey, talking shit to Warf.
And Warf is like, fuck you man, I'm taking you to jail.
You are under arrest.
And basically like swings a chair around in a circle,
takes everyone down, and basically ends the mission.
Yeah.
He's like, this is great. ends the mission. Yeah.
He's like, this is great.
I love this.
Yeah, credits roll.
I would do this all the time.
It's a little bit akin to his calisthenics, right?
It's Western calisthenics.
That's what he's doing.
He's like, I could get behind this.
Yeah, it's fun stuff.
Like, Worf is definitely in.
It was a little uneasy at first
because as they walked into town, there
was a sex worker up on the balcony of one of the buildings. Alexander let slip that Lieutenant
Barkley had something to do with helping him program this.
How wildly inappropriate is that? First of all, Barkley should have his
holodeck credentials removed entirely after he even
be able to go on the same deck as the holodecks. And he
definitely shouldn't be helping Alexander. Yeah.
That's a terrible idea.
We've taken we've taken a lot of shit for jokes that we've
made on this show.
Over the years, about the way this show puts its foot in this creepy area.
From time to time, this might be the creepiest time in the entire run of the show.
And we are late in the series.
What I wish we got that we didn't was like the cut back to Wharf and he's just shuddering.
And what's going on here seems pretty pervy.
Yeah, just like cut to commercial and like just a little moment in the like midst of
the commercial, you know, they do that sometimes.
Yeah.
Wharf, wharf like severing the head of a sleeping barkley
with one of his knives,
and then like it's never commented on,
barkley is never back on the show.
Worf, Worf silently like opens up a torpedo bay.
Yeah, places barkley.
Yeah, places barkley's parties, parties, parties, parties, and sides, closes the lid.
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What's the problem? What's the problem? What's the problem? in a perfect position to do all the murdering he wants. Yeah.
What's stopping him? Nothing is stopping him. Honour, I think. I mean, he did murder that one
clang on, right? Is there anything more honorable than murdering Barkley? It's practically a mercy
killing. Yeah, Barkley doesn't doesn't want this life that you're taking from him. He's practically a mercy killing. Yeah, Berkeley doesn't want this life
that you're taking from him.
He's practically like placing your hands around his throat.
He wants a way out.
He just can't do it himself.
So they wind up, what do they do?
They arrest the bad guy and they are helped
in this adventure by
Council Troy who has decided to join the game in some really distractingly good-looking leather pants
She's got like mom leather pants
You know they're really high-waisted. I'm into that look, man.
Yeah, me too.
I say that Marina Sertis basically steals the show in this episode.
She is doing a whole different kind of acting from everybody else, chewing the scenery.
Basically, once again, making the case for, I should be a much more prominent character.
Listen to you defend it. Alexander
in this scene is like, I invited Councillor Troy. She loves western stories. Oh really? Ben.
When you have to have dialogue defend your story choices instead of like a character's
natural inclination. Like you are in the weeds on your
script, I think. And that, and this was nearly unforgivable, I thought, like, what's the
reason Troy's there? Of course, she likes Westerns. Let's tell everyone. Like it's telling
instead of showing. And maybe so upset. It would have been pretty great if he'd turned
and maybe so upset. It would have been pretty great if he turned to,
if he turned to Warp and said,
I invited Councillor Troy.
She likes chocolate and westerns.
Those two things,
those are the only things about her.
My, my child doesn't know anyone,
and he knows that.
How interesting would it have been
if it was Beverly instead of Troy?
If they have to use one of the female leads.
And maybe Beverly has a thirst for killing.
And that's why she likes westerns.
I mean, Troy kind of does.
She definitely fucks around with that rifle.
Yeah, but does she ever murder anyone?
I think she does. Yeah.
That's got to be fun, right? I have been walking my wife to the ferry in the morning. She takes
the ferry to work a lot. Yeah. And we stop at a... No, no, that's the Staten Island ferry. There's a new
blue and white one for Brooklyn. But we stopped at this coffee shop
that also sells potted plants and flowers.
And in the window, there's a terracotta flower pot
with a plant in it right now
that is just like a cylinder with a pair of tits.
And I was looking at it today at the other day and I was like that's pretty much
what we've been saying Troy is for an entire podcast now. It's what we've been saying she
is because that is the way she's been presented. Exactly. I'm not saying I endorse that. I'm just
saying this terracotta pot reminds me of the of the Troy of reality and not the Troy that I wish
we really got.
Yeah, indeed.
Hey, Ben, I don't want to make your editing decisions for you, but I think I'm going
to take another slug here and maybe we go to interstitial.
Adam, what do you say we take a slug and we'll play some music right after that and then as we come back we'll
be recovering from the slug of booze.
Perfect.
I am the cutesy ball.
You will assist us.
I am the cutesy ball.
You are the ball.
You know what I tried to take that shot the card style? Like an overly filled glass and just a very big gulp.
Ooh!
Giddy up.
You can't drink like the card.
No one can.
That was a shot too big.
That's a shot that's bigger than I would like to take.
At some point in here, the doctor is getting ready
to stage you play.
And she's trying to rope the captain
into playing a small part, which is like one of those,
one of those great throw-away scenes that's just like,
the doctor is the only person who can get away with this,
but she basically does something that is wildly insulting to the captain.
Yeah.
Like, he basically is trying to like say, no, no, no, I can't do the play.
Like, there's no way I can memorize a leading part.
Anyway, I'm not much of an actor.
And she's like, no, no, you're not the lead, buddy.
Yeah, you're the janitor.
I was such an inseparable only child,
Adam, that when I did the play in middle school,
I did the play two years in a row.
And neither time was either lead,
but I basically, and I went to a small enough middle school
that people who are willing to be in the play
were valuable enough that they got to be in the play were valuable enough that
they got to be in the play. And the way that worked out was the drama teacher kind of convincing
me that my role was more important than it was.
Oh, no. I think back on that and just I hate my guts. The one thing you don't want to do is give a middle schooler confidence at any point.
She had to cut a scene from my, I guess it was my eighth grade play in which I had a lot
more lines than my seventh grade play because I didn't learn the lines because I thought
I was such a big dog.
Oh, that you would just improvise?
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
In my defense, though, like any amount of reducing that play was probably a good idea
because I was cast as Agamemnon in regarding Electra. And the way they made me look like a Greek king
was put dark makeup on me and dye my hair darker.
Oh no.
Yeah.
Oh no, man.
Hashtag problematic, Adam.
Oh.
I certainly hope that all visual evidence of this is gone.
Me too.
Please let there be no yearbook pictures.
Of this we pray.
That could severely compromise your political aspirations.
Yeah, oh, definitely. Yeah. In the woke future that I run for
office in, I mean, Adam, I'm not running for office because I
don't think straight white males deserve any more political
power than they've already gotten. Not only that, but do you
think anyone gives a shit about anything anyone does when they
run for office anymore? Forget it.
I've played the best parts in the biggest plays.
Everybody talks about my skills as a middle school play performer.
People rave about my black face, they've about it.
Everybody thought I was very convincing as a Greek. Yeah.
I have Greek friends. Some of my best friends are Greek.
They say the same thing.
Like a picture of him eating a giant euro.
I love the Greeks.
But it's like a taco bowl like with Euro meat inside.
People made a lot of fun to 2016.
They said 2016 was the worst year.
2016 fought back, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to be dealing with 2016 for a long time.
Yeah.
I mean, well, for as long as we live,
which is sort of a sliding scale, I think, at this point.
Seattle, man, not a great place to live over the last week.
No, you're in great circle territory, aren't you?
Every time I would pass a chain link fence that scene from Terminator 2 would play in my mind.
So needless to say, I avoided those fences.
Yeah, you don't want to be a crispy critter going into a fence.
Yeah, I avoided walking past playgrounds
ringed with chain link fences.
I rewatched the most recent Terminator film
recently because I needed bad movies
to distract me on airplanes.
Uh-huh.
And about 15 minutes in, I was like,
oh fuck, I've watched this before.
And then like 30 minutes in, I was like, wait, have I've watched this before. And then like 30 minutes in, I was like, wait, have I?
And then like for the rest of the movie,
I was just like bouncing back and forth
between those two convictions,
which happens a lot with those Marvel superhero movies now,
where I can't really remember which ones I've seen
and which ones I haven't.
I was like,
Yeah, and people are like smashing into each other
and you've lost count of how many buildings are blown up.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that the Golden Gate Bridge
sustained some damage each time,
but whether it's a Marvel film or a new super,
a new Terminator film, but like, man,
I was lost and I feel like it is such a shame that that happened to that franchise, because Terminator
2 is one of the great movies.
I wonder if it can ever be put back on the rails in the same way that aliens is making
that attempt, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, aliens never got so far off that it was like the most recent two terminator films
are hot fucking messes.
Do you think that they're worse than aliens versus predator?
I think of those as like sideline semi-non-canonical movies though.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I refuse to believe that they exist.
Yeah, I mean, like, and like, I'm all four,
like a crossover movie, like I think that.
Have you seen the TNG aliens crossover comic
that's coming?
No.
That's on the way.
That's fun. It's hard for me to imagine a
world where wailin' utani corporation and the Federation coexist though. So
that should be that should be some interesting canon development. Yeah I'm pumped
for that. Um anyways. We should just wrap up the episode in the next couple of minutes and then just continue
to riff on sci-fi movies.
Have you seen predators?
The, uh, the Adrian Brody, the lead, uh, predator film?
Whatever happened to Adrian Brody.
I don't know.
I saw him in the East Village one time walking around with a couple of buds.
Did you follow him into a nail salon?
No, this was much later in my career of seeing a famous in public and I didn't do a creepy
thing. But he was wearing cargo shorts and a fox racing t-shirt. And he was with a couple of total bros.
And I was like, oh, what?
Adrian Brody's a bro?
That seems impossible to me.
Dude, he's a bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like Toby McGuire,
pussy patrol bro, or like just sort of broish, just standard issue bro.
Like, I, based on the garb he was wearing in the company he was keeping, I would
surmise that Adrian Brody's favorite hang is either buffalo Wild Wings or David and Busters.
Oh no.
Yeah.
Do better, you think, Brody?
I know.
Like, how does he explain to his buddies what movies he's in?
Cause they're not seeing him, you know?
No.
How do they know him too?
Like, they didn't see the dark jeeling limited.
Ha ha ha. What do they have him too? Like, they no one had the chance to
pin the traffic,
but really quiet,
hypnotic, nodding.
So the deal is the,
Halideck is the safety's are off,
and there is stuff from data's head
leaking into the computer all over the ship,
and there is stuff from the,
the old west leaking into data.
So data's like walking around doing data stuff
and talking about y'all and.
See, he's spitting into bushes and stuff.
Right, yeah, he'd definitely like,
Hawks say, Hawks O'Lughi
and do a potted plant in the observation land,
which is fun.
But what's not fun is that like,
wharf is catching bullets in the holiday deck
and they're actually going in.
Yeah.
It's weird.
We know data can hold 18,000 thoughts in his head at once.
I mean, he said so when he kisses Jenna.
Right.
Yet, these are the only two thoughts
that cross in mid-air,
like the Western theme holodeck
and data's cat food choices.
It's weird.
You just sit tight.
We'll have this all fixed up in time for supper.
I mean, they do have fun with this.
It takes all the freaks of strength
not to look into camera after that
before turning away.
I feel like the writers have been given a task and they with this episode are presently where we are with our episode, which is like, fuck it.
Let's just have fun with this one.
I guess.
Yeah, I mean, what Ron Moore said about the last episode, which is like...
Which is like, it's turning it into a challenge that he has to take.
Like, almost as if there's no choice in the matter.
Like, this is the story we're doing.
We've got to make the best of the circumstance.
Like, it feels like a dutiful effort here versus,
I don't know, like, what other way is this show made?
This episode, I feel like winds up being super influential
on Deep Space Nine and Voyager,
both of which really lean on Holodeck hijinks as a premise.
really lean on Holodeck hijinks as a premise.
And aside from, I guess the Moriarty episode,
which is a much more fun way of the Holodeck being dangerous
than this, I can't think of other episodes in the series that have that as the idea.
But I feel like that's like a,
those are the low-oxana episodes of the future, right?
It's like once a season,
we've got to have the holidaycturne
into a super dangerous place.
I feel like the holidayx usage on this show
is a total counterpoint to Star Trek as a place.
It's a nesting doll to Star Trek as a place.
Like it's a nesting doll inside Star Trek as a place
that I wish didn't exist
because you can do Holodeck on any show,
a form of Holodeck.
You could make a show that was Holodeck.
I think Black Mirror in many ways
is sort of Holodeck as show.
Sort of what quantum leap is.
Yeah, but keep Holodeck out of my fucking Star Trek.
You know?
I want my Applejack separate from my Dr. Pepper.
You know what I'm saying?
I have some Dr. Pepper here.
I could do that.
I could see how that tastes.
Yeah, let's do it.
We don't care if we live or die anymore.
Let's take a slug and we'll come back
and we'll get to the
we'll get to the end of this story line such as it is. Okay. All right slugging in five four I'm sorry. It's quite hypnotic. It's hypnotic. It's hypnotic. It's hypnotic.
Good luck on this bottle, Adam.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay.
I'm sure that my wife's friends will appreciate the backwash in the Apple Jack Cocktail
set mix for them next time we do that.
Well, you just run that through a bar strainer.
Get all those flodders out.
All the teeth that have fallen off. Applejack's straight.
I'm gonna try it. Applejack's good straight.
I've got Applejack. I should go get it in solidarity.
It's a... I don't want to mix my Applejack and my tequila and my rainier though.
No.
That's a recipe for angry wife later.
That's a, that's a recipe for like a, a shoot out of the okay corral inside your stomach.
This is one of those days where my wife's going to come home from work and ask me what
I did today. That I'm gonna be so embarrassed to tell her about,
it's a really bad episode of Star Trek.
I'm fucking hammered.
It's gonna be embarrassing.
There's no way I'm cooking dinner at this point.
We, yeah, like we really got back
to our embarrassed roots with this one.
This episode ends with a big a big gun fight and at this point
data has replaced all of the
All of the bad characters in this in this holodeck world
like the image of data mm And I guess the the rules that Troy sets up are we've got to what we've got to do is like finish finish the
game. Like if we if we finish the the game and and and the story is over, then the program will end. And at that point, like
our life will no longer be in danger. But the end of this game is like a big classic
Old West gunfight in the center of town with the tumbleweed blowing across in between the two gunmen.
And so they like, they work out like a thing where
Marty McFly style, Wharf has a way of defeating bullets that nobody in this time period has ever
thought of. But like, this could have been such a scary and interesting fight, right?
Because what they're saying is that these bad guys have the capabilities and speed of
data.
And this is like what we talked about in the last episode, right?
Like data should be able to kick a ton of ass in a melee or in any kind of combat because
you can move so much faster and and he's so much more accurate.
This is the Neo versus Agent Smith problem.
It really is.
And they really don't do a lot with that as an idea.
This episode asks you to do so much.
It asks you to care about Alexander's life because one of the
data says kidnapped him and it's a bad sign I think when you're rooting for
him to die as a character. It asks you to believe that Wharf can credibly do
science which he does by like cracking open a communicator with a little pocket knife.
I mean, he turns a communicator into a personal shield, which is like, if that is possible,
yeah, why don't they use that all the time?
I've been done a lot earlier.
That's amazing.
Warf made a huge discovery that just lives on the holiday now.
Warf is a genius.
It's like having data as the bartender.
Like maybe we've slept on Warf for too long.
Yeah, maybe Warf, maybe Warf and Jordy
should switch jobs and see how that goes for a while.
As these data is multiply, I couldn't help but think
that he's just doing different Nick Cage impressions
with all of them.
I'm a police man.
See my badge?
Like, this is not a knock on Brent Spiner.
I mean, I think this is a specific acting challenge
to act eight different ways in one episode.
But many of them are very
Nick Cagey. I'm a vampire. Kill me. Adam, you are sticking your dick so far into my
drunk Shimoda right now. Oh, the way up it. So, she's like, GRANAS!
God, is there any impression that you have that isn't two grade levels above one of mine?
God, it's so frustrating.
I think that that was just because I got a lot louder than you Adam.
Yeah, the key to a good Pacino is getting extremely loud.
Yeah.
The day is saved, I guess they like finished the gun fight.
Yeah, data's bullets bounce off of warps, air sets,
personal shielding.
What do you see?
We cut the chit chat, A-hole.
Yeah, there's a fun little comedic
beat with Brent Spiner as Old West saloon whore. You're as handy with the shoot nine as you
are with a woman's heart and complete with a golden breast piece. Yeah, yeah, breast loaf. Yeah. It was really like back to the future level breast loaf.
And like Troy said before, the program ends when it reaches its natural conclusion,
sort of like a two-year-old adventure story. This is a concept that has never been articulated before,
right? The idea that a program will end on its own
Yeah, I mean that's not really how the Moriarty thing was resolved
That's what I'm saying and also if Barkley wrote this episode do you think he had a different conclusion in mind
between warf and
and the main
holodeck female, I think so.
It's all wrapped up.
We got a scene of like worth touching.
You're just gonna leave that one alone, aren't you, Ben?
I wasn't paying attention to him.
How dare you.
Let's take another slug.
What do you say?
Mm.
I thought you'd never ask.
Okay. Let's take another slug. What do you say? Hmm. I thought you'd never my dosage a little better, but now I just don't care
Last shot is almost a redemption for the episode. Oh really?
Not quite the the thing that really could have redeemed it in my opinion is
It's so it's it is enterprise flying off into the sunset over some planet.
But what really could have made this episode, like, dear to my heart, was if there had been a music cue right then,
and it had been eye shot to Sheriff Bob Marley. What is the, what is the galactic equivalent
of a of a tumbleweed?
Cause that's what I wanted to see roll across the screen
as the enterprise saunters off into the sunset.
Yeah, I guess like a like a like a meteorite or something.
Yeah, tumbling across the screen.
McGillum.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Nagilum is far more than a tumbleweed at him.
Nagilum's back.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
That Nagilum cameo though.
Oh, man.
The Gilum killed it in that.
They bring a little scout ship meet him at the end.
Did you notice it was called the beco?
Yeah, Steve Beco.
I wonder if the beco and the beco got confused a lot.
Because remember in Slickback 3,
the kid ship was named the beco.
Like I bet the beco is glad the beco is out of the picture.
Yeah, when you're transmitting on subspace,
you gotta use the like the NATO alphabet.
Right.
What would you say?
Right.
Biko or Bravo or Victor.
Did you like this episode, Adam?
Ben, I enjoyed recording the pod about it.
But this episode, this is something our viewers, Adam, have been saying from the beginning
is like, don't veto the bad ones.
Just do them drunk, they said.
So we have.
Here we are.
Much like rad schools. much like rascals, I think, I think this episode diminishes us as a
as people who enjoy Star Trek and and
You know like this is a Patrick Stewart joint, right?
This is not I don't put this on him like I don't think there's anything, I don't think there's anything directorially
that was garbage or sloppy about this.
That's the thing, right?
Like, unlike rascals, the directing is tight.
Yeah.
I just, I just honestly wish that these two episodes
had never been made.
And I think had they not been,
the entire series is lifted as a result.
When people talk about the low points of this series, these are the two episodes that
they bring up.
And why not?
I think that like maybe the thing that brings this episode, in my mind, the thing that brings
this episode down maybe more than anything else, Adam, is that they
never...
Like, the ship never goes into orbit around a planet in a way where somebody could ask
data to scan for life forms, you precious little life forms.
You know?
I took off my headphones, so just yell really loud when you're done with that.
Goddamn you, Ben.
How about you, Ben? the challenge of this episode.
He does great in this.
And you know what sucks is like.
Like Marina Circus and Michael Dorn
never get fun stuff to do.
Yeah.
And they got a real fun challenge.
Like it's not a good script,
but it is a fun challenge as an actor.
And I think that it is maybe illuminating of the kind of decisions that the people
running this show were making, that they would throw one like this at Dorn and Serdice,
not recognizing the kind of talent they were bringing to the table. But they fucking,
like, their two rules, they fucking knock out of the park.
I think too often and this is not I'm not blaming I'm not bonsaw blaming here
Ben when I say this but
But these actors are way too good to be spending so much time across from a child actor
every time.
Like, how often is Michael Doren getting his own episode and it's with Alexander?
How often is Deanna Troy getting her own episode but with like a child actor who's seeing an
imaginary friend?
Like, can we just have them have adult problems
and with adult counterpoints?
Like, there are adult problems
that have to do with parenting that aren't this dumb.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, God, I'm excited for Dorn
to inhabit this character the way he has.
It's not his fault this episode, but I would like him to get into a rated R situation.
The scene at the end where he's making-
He's Mr. Doubtfire right now.
The scene at the end where he's making finger guns into the mirror though is like the most
endearing shit that Orph has ever done. I love that. I love seeing a character like I am alone. I am
being a hundred percent myself right now. Yeah. Like I'm walking around with my
underpants on because I am alone in the apartment. I am being my true honest unmasked self.
And that may be the hardest character to play
as an actor, because when we are interacting
with other people, we're always putting on a mask.
Like the way I interact with you
is totally different from the way I interact
with my wife or my colleagues.
Like I say different things in different ways. And the
like, bending his underpants in his apartment by himself may very well be putting on a cowboy
hat and making finger grunts at him. I'm not saying for sure because that's my private
life and I'm not going to reveal that here on the podcast. I'm just saying it could, it
could happen.
And I think you're right, Ben, the most challenging character to play. Very well, maybe, ourselves.
Do you want to see if we have any P1s?
Oh, yeah. I think they're going to get what they pay for here.
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.
Need a supplement on that. supplement on that?
supplement.
supplement.
Yeah it's extra.
But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.
Adam we have a couple of priority one messages here
as it would happen.
Oh yeah, should we take a couple poles?
Feel like it's been a while.
Oh Jesus. I feel like I feel like our P1s paid for this
Yeah, yeah, this this bottle of booze brought to you by the
The priority one message per shissors this week
Purchasers
Here we go. This tequila is starting to taste great.
That's the roca petrone, that's the good stuff.
It is.
Why didn't Northwest tequila fest come back for a sponsorship?
Because it isn't next year yet.
Like we did that last year.
And when it comes back, I'm sure we'll do it again.
I would fucking love to do Northwest tequila fest again.
Dude, you should come out for Northwest tequila fest.
Because that guy Devlin that runs it is fucking great.
He loves our show.
And it was a great hang.
I would love to drink some agave-based spirits.
When they book the dates, I'll let you know when that is.
Maybe we can get
you out here yeah baby all right our first message we've now replayed the music
bed for p1's like four times we haven't even done the first one our first
messages from dwin it's for a Gerido Burrito.
What?
Surprise! Thanks for hooking me on this podcast,
and being the coolest slash drunkest promoted brother,
there is my scarved stockpile wasn't enough for a leaning wall
or a new Previa to replace your Ruthmobile.
So this message will have to do.
It's the gift of a warrior.
You're the natural yager of little brothers.
Happy very early birthday.
Oh.
Oh.
You know, I haven't really thought about
yager being a younger brother.
I always imagined the yager being the older brother.
But that's nice.
That's a nice compliment.
I love it.
I also love anybody who goes by any moniker
that incorporates burrito because that's my favorite food.
I was very concerned about you being overseas for so long,
knowing how difficult a difficult tacos can occasionally be
to get overseas and understanding completely
how many we eat per week.
Right, I mean, I have a...
Oh, like, I'm saying.
What I'm saying is to call someone a burrito
as a great term of endearment.
Yes, it's almost the same sentiment as when I call my wife my everything bagel.
Oh, oh yeah.
That's nice.
To me there is no bagel besides everything, Ben.
Oh really?
You can get rid of the other bagels.
Everything's the only one I need.
I go with the onion bagel sometimes.
But everything has onion.
It does, but more.
But sometimes I like the densely onioniness
of the onion bagel.
The simplicity of just the straight onion.
I could see that.
Here's what I'm gonna say.
Give me your tap three bagels, Ben.
The best bagel I have ever had
was an onion bagel with scallion cream cheese.
That's nice.
When you go with a variation on the cream cheese, you can really counterpoint the flavor
of the bagel in a fun way.
It was a stupendous bagel.
The second best bagel is, and the most consistently great bagel is the everything Bagel. The second best bagel is,
and the most consistently great bagel is the everything bagel.
Right.
Like cosine for sure.
And I'm gonna say this is the problem.
Everything seasoning on a shitty bagel helps.
I think that's part of it.
Yeah, it brings it up a notch.
Let me tell you something Ben,
if you ever used everything bagel seasoning on food,
for instance, Brussels sprouts?
No.
That sounds great.
That sounds great.
Me and my friends make everything bagel, seasoned Brussels sprouts, and they are the bomb.
There's a fancy bar here in New York called Please Don't Tell, and they have a hot dog place
in front called Kr cryptogs. Uh-huh and the
the cryptog one of the one of the famous cryptog hot dogs has a
Has like a cream cheese mixed with everything bagel seasoning
Topping. Oh, it's like it's like it's like a standard New York
hot dog
with cream cheese blended with everything bagel tapping.
Oh, which is really good.
Mix it with everything.
I think it works.
Yeah.
Third best bagel is obviously poppy seed bagel.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I think part of it is you're in the bagel basket of the world, and it's hard for me to
get a great bagel in Seattle.
And so my list might be skewed.
I want you to visit Brooklyn with me, man, and we'll go get, like, I'm going to feed you
a pumpernickel bagel that's going to like change your world.
Can't wait. It's going to be a pumpernical bagel that's gonna change your world. Can't wait.
It's gonna be a pumpernical bagel.
You're gonna be like, don't order me a pumpernical bagel.
That's exactly what I would say.
They're just giving me a little packet of Philadelphia cream cheese that should cost five cents
as the spread, and I have to do that with a plastic knife.
Fuck you Ben, and then you're gonna eat it
and you're gonna be like, all right.
I see your point.
I can't wait to be proven wrong.
Do we have another priority one Adam? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ben, the semester's is from a junior engineer who is most definitely not writing about
bagels.
It is for O-Captain, my API captain.
The message goes like this.
You had me at initiating saucy separ-
God damn it, I'm too drunk for this.
Okay, take two.
The message goes like this, you had me initiating saucy separation.
Or some other horrible pun.
You're the Kevin to my Roshan, the Kugie sweater to my Wesley,
the cheery, brainwashed riker to my randia's fuck Row Laren.
What?
No one else's nuck is half as righteous as yours, and there's no one else with whom I'd
rather make dick jokes.
Happy birthday, Steve.
I love you.
Parmak Kai.
Damn.
Just when you think all of the reference comparisons had been done a
junior-engineer drops in and and gives us some science. Yeah, that that really blew blew a lot of
a lot of situations right out of the water
Sassy separation
I find I find when the temperatures is too high on the stove, you'll get saucy separation.
Then, I've got to turn that down.
Yeah, but maybe turn it up in the bedroom.
The saucy is always connecting with the star drive in the bedroom when the temperature goes up.
Indeed. Oh man, that might be the sexiest P1 we've ever had.
Yeah.
Wow.
Good job, junior engineer.
Congratulations, Steve.
Happy birthday.
Yeah.
Sounds like you got a good one in your junior engineer.
Dang.
Very knowing.
That's like a... That's like an Ashley Judd level junior engineer. Dang, very knowing. That's like a, that's like an Ashley Judd level junior
engineer W slash R slash T hotness of P1. There's a Star Trek knowledge here that I think
if either of us started to get from our wives would be like, what happened? Like, we're so used to over the years,
both of our lives just not getting,
not understanding, not watching.
Like if they started to drop references at this rate,
I think we'd feel like something was up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What did I do?
Yeah, I mean, this is like the same thing, like if I had your bus showed up at home suddenly
with a huge bouquet of flowers, like our wives would have the same, like what are you trying
to compensate for?
Right.
Right.
We're not saying that about a junior engineer. I want to make that clear. We're talking about for right now. Right. We're not saying that about a junior engineer.
I want to make that clear.
We're talking about ourselves right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And basically how much we think Steve has hit the jackpot.
Yeah, good one, Steve.
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Be dumb instead.
Whoa, rats.
Hey, they don't know.
I'm about to count you in mine.
These clouds are really freaking me out.
I hate having to stand in line.
And boy, what do I?
These giraffes do not smell good.
No, they do not, and they've such short neck.
But I'm hearing we need to get on this off.
We've got to get on the arc.
It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity.
Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Are you Noah?
Yeah, I know we look like humans.
We're actually, we're podcasters.
We are podcasters, so it's different.
Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry?
We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that.
And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out.
We would love to be on the boats.
We came two by two.
What do you think?
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Hey Ben.
Oh, what's that, Adam?
Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Well, aside from myself, Adam.
Yeah.
I wanted to give a special citation in scene chewing to one Mr. Spiner
come up rent.
I just, I had, like, and I like, I, I acknowledged how great Michael Dorn and,
and, and Marina Service are in this episode already. I think
that they like took a, an acting plate of shit and turned it into a meal. Like Spiner's
given a much easier job here, but man, he shows his virtuosity when he is playing the henchman of the
Old West bad guy. Like, he gets like half a second takes when the camera cuts
around to all the guys with guns in the big showdown in the end, and he just does
so fucking much with them. Like, he makes each one of those characters a different guy. It's great. It's so good.
It's so Shimoda. I think I would appreciate him more if he weren't clumping, you know?
Like if it wasn't the Fatty's fart too. Oh yes my dear man. My baby.
Oh, yes, my dear man, my baby. Oh.
Well, if it wasn't six of them,
I could appreciate them individually
in a way that they're deserving, you know?
But instead, it's a trick.
It's like, it's split screening interactions between them.
It's a couple here and there's with card shuffling.
Like, we know Brent Spiner's a great actor
and I want to appreciate him, but I also want to appreciate him without the tricks
and it's hard to appreciate how good of an actor he is when they're doing the
stuff when they're clumping him up. Well I a little bit resent you
shitting on my drunk Shimoda Adam. Oh I'm, but I didn't mean to shit on your Shemota. I didn't mean to
Shemota shit, man. But what's your Shemota? I am also giving my Shemota to data. I'm a
lieutenant in the police department. I'm in the middle of a homicide investigation. Try
to get my prescription. Please. Well, I guess I'm giving it to the version that Brent Spiner plays of
Nick Cage who is inside the jail cell shuffling cards.
Have you ever been dragged to the sidewalk and being told you?
PAST BLOOD!
Very specifically, there is a moment where his sleeves are rolled up and he's doing the card shuffling trick.
And he has got
prodigious arm hair. Like, we have seen data's bear arms before, and they do not look like this. It looks like
he has coated his forearms and candle wax, and then like dump them in a barrel of, of like,
in a dumpster out and back of a supercut. Like, he is fully enrobed in forearm hair
in a way that was like a choice, right?
He's got Robin Williams level forearm hair.
You know, like in Bloodsport,
how they tape up their fists
and then like dip the tape in glass
to weaponize the fists.
Like that's what he did with his forearms.
He just rolled it in a dust-panful of hair clippings.
That's what he's got.
Yeah, yeah, I'd love to see the ECU on his face
as he's rolling his arm through that.
Errrr.
Yeah, because God, you know that's gross, right?
That's gross for any actor.
And then you gotta go through that.
Like the application's one thing,
but the removal is quite another.
So that can't be enjoyable.
So I guess I'm giving it to Spiner for the forearm hair,
but I guess the show for the choice.
And also, I don't know.
Let's make it easy for listener Colin,
who does our submoda lineup at the end of every season.
Yeah.
Brent Spiner, right?
Yeah, I think it's Brent Spiner for both of us.
Yeah.
Brent could easily say no to this, if you like,
and it's such a minor thing that it shows to do.
Like, you don't understand, man,
like, the sort of method I'm into is arm hair method.
I'm just not gonna be able to get into this character
without it.
I'm sure you understand.
What do we have coming up in the next episode, Ben?
The next episode is season six, episode nine,
quality of life, data risks, per card, and Jordy's lives,
in order to protect a young living machine.
Do you remember this episode, Adam?
This is the exocomp episode, yeah?
Yeah, that's that exocomp shit.
It's basically a pop it with a turkey-based
around the front of it. A pop-al.
Yeah, I remember this episode.
If you had had a veto, Adam,
would you have deployed it upon this episode?
I feel like I would be in a refractory period
after shooting two videos in a row.
Like, I would have just been too tired.
Too tired for a third, Ben. Yeah, that's one
thing that really, I mean, I'm not trying to say anything about my inadequacy or whatever,
but in movies when when they roll over for seconds and thirds, I'm always like, who does that?
These are people who clearly don't enjoy sleep as much as I do.
Hahaha.
Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be tell this either
because I like the exo-comp episode.
Yeah.
They got funny uniforms, fun little gadgets.
All exo-comps all the time yeah
well if
Anyone out there has a problem with how we've done this episode. There's one way to tell us
But going on Twitter using the hashtag greatest Jen and sell and saying you guys are garbage
You didn't have a so drunk. You assholes. I'm on there
as at Cut for Time. Ben is there as at Benjamin R, A.H.R. Your silver fingers sure to not mistype those.
The other way to tell us is by going to drunksremota at gmail.com. The one way not to tell us what assholes we are is iTunes.
If you thought this was great, if you have the kind of taste
that says, two idiots drinking way too much
and recording a podcast is just what I want to listen to.
Go on iTunes and leave us a nice five-star review.
Yeah.
Helps us raise the profile of the program.
It's true.
There are people, even right now, Ben, that don't know about us.
So if you feel like this might have been an emblematic episode to share with others,
why don't you give the gift of greatest gen? Maybe recommend it on your overcast, podcast application?
Oh yeah, did the recommend on the overcast? That's a big help.
Maybe spread it around on the Star Trek Reddit? Maybe tweet about it to a stranger?
Yeah. Any number of ways will help spread the word.
It's the gift that keeps on taking Adam.
Go to the Facebook and Reddit pages of Greatest Gen to gab with other viewers. Really terrific communities, both of those.
Lots of fun.
All right, thanks to Dark Materia and Adam Rekususia both of whom will not return our calls or emails
And with that we will be back at you
next week gross
With another great episode of Star Trek the next generation an episode of the greatest generation that has little gadgets that come out of it, depending on what tools we need for a given situation. You know the god of the you I think that's right You make it make it make it so
Make it so
Make it make it so
Make it so
You know the god of the you
I think that's right
You make it
You know the god of the you
I think that's right
Make it make it make it so
Make it so
You know the god of god of god of god of god of I've got a it so. I'm gonna make it so. Y'all are the God of God, God of God.
I've got a piece so bad, Ben. Are we done here?
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