The Greatest Generation - Backyard Benihana (S3E17)

Episode Date: September 5, 2016

When the Klingon exchange program gives the Enterprise a very hostile second in command, it's up to the crew to fall in line or risk being murdered in a turbolift. The new guy's meatloaf looks familia...r, so he and Worf take a trip to visit their old stomping grounds to dispute an old family controversy. What's the mortality rate in a Klingon hospital? Is it a good idea to "sprinkle the dog" around when you meet new people? Should the hosts take holidays off? It's the episode that was almost called, "Don't Be a Menace to the Klingon Homeworld while Wearing Your Robe in the Hood"!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:02:36 Hey Ben. What's that Adam? Occasionally our viewers will give us gifts. Yeah. You received a threatening gift a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Lots of someone's stretch record. I've gone back on that being threatening.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I'm really enjoying looking through them. Like, they're so fun and often really funny. There's one that's data's op station, just a picture of his computer. Wow. There's one of data's cat. There, you're one of Datas Cat. There's one of Isle and Ear Chips. Oh, that's fantastic. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's good stuff. Is there a Shimoda card? Oh, I don't know. Or an alternate Argyle? Man, I gotta look through them. No viewer of this show would ever give away an Argyle. Norishimota, I don't think. Well, yeah, do we count it as a natural yager
Starting point is 00:03:32 if one of us gets one of those? If someone sends it to us in the mail? Yeah, I don't think we can quite count that as natural, right? Now, that would be an unnatural yager, but a yager in the hand is worth two in the bush, right? Now that would be an unnatural yager, but a yager in the hand is worth two in the bush, right? Yeah. That goes.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I believe that's correct. So I received a gift recently been. Oh yeah. Yeah, one of my friends and listeners, Grant, who I believe you've met from your Seattle visits. He went to one of Seattle's many beer stores and picked up a couple of this from the big Vegas convention. People were drinking this, and also at San Diego Comic Con. It made a big splash there. The big Vegas convention that we were conspicuously not invited to.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Right, yeah. So anyway, I've got a bottle of this. Dang. I'm gonna open it up. I got a bottle for you, too, Ben. I'm saving it. Pour it out. All right, and I'm gonna try it. It says it's a golden anniversary ale.
Starting point is 00:04:49 5.0 alcohol by volume. So this has got to be an easy zipper, right? How's it taste? Pretty good for a novel TVer. I was expecting it to be garbage quite honestly. And when Grant gave it to me, he's like, oh man, I don't know. Grant's a real beer guy. Like he goes to breweries and appreciates a beer at a whole different level. And he's like, novel to beer is often terrible.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So hopefully this isn't the worst. It's really good. I was one time in Barcelona, and I had like a night to kill by myself. And I went out to, I decided to like watch a movie in the hotel room at home because I was really tired. And I went out to like a convenience store and discovered that they had Duff beer in the...
Starting point is 00:05:38 Wow. And I think that this like was released at some point in the US as well, but it was a complete mind-fuck to me that I was like, wait, is Death based on a real thing? It was definitely a promotional product, but it was made in Germany and it was so weird and I bought it and it was bad. That's so disappointing. Yeah, I mean, you would think that Homer Simpson would probably not have great taste and
Starting point is 00:06:04 beer, but don't make the fucking real version of it be be bad. Well, I was wintzing before taking my first sip But this is actually really good. It's made by the Schmaltz brewing company, which I think is a funny name. Yeah for a brewer Schmaltz Of course being a chicken fat. Well any poultry fat. Sure. Yeah, it doesn't taste like that at all. It tastes like delicious beer. It's not greasy. So anyway, pal, next time we hang out in person, we will enjoy the other two of these. Crack a couple of Trek brews. My thanks to my friend and biggest fan grant for the gift. Thanks, Grant. I thought I was your biggest fan. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You're a part of the show. That's different. Yeah, but I like listening so I can hear all the funny jokes you make at him. Oh. Well, why don't we turn the page and begin the episode? This is becoming a speech. Where the cat comes to. Very tightly. I'm going to type a ram ball on the last something everyone knows. the episode. Let's get serious. Let's get serious and legal Ben. The season three episode 17,
Starting point is 00:07:16 sins of the Father. We open with the Enterprise, nose to nose with a Klingon starship. And we get some voiceover that they're taking on a Klingon officer as kind of a part of the exchange program like the one that Riker did on the PAH. This is a great callback. Like at the time, I didn't think this would be a thing that would go on reverse and it totally is. Yeah, well, because they had the two chaotic two-bro on the enterprise at the time, but I guess, this is the first time a Klingon has gone on to the enterprise.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So this guy comes aboard and his name is Commander Kern. Which means the letters on his name tag are perfectly aligned. Yeah. This dude needs a... This dude needs to know about conditioner really bad. Like... Yeah. He has some... some real...
Starting point is 00:08:21 Persistent, edgy, flaky scalp. Some real dry hair. He needs some of that neutrogena t-jail that Michael Dorn does commercial voiceovers for. Does he really do commercials? Oh yeah. That's awesome. He's got a great voiceover voice. Neutrogena t-jail. It works. Yeah he's also got a beautiful head of hair in this episode. Yeah, the frizziness of current's hair is only exemplified in contrast with with Worf's tight bob. Yeah, Worf's. And it's glossy and manageable.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah. It's beautiful. It works. So current, current comes on and is big dog and everybody right out the gate. Like he big dogs riker in the process of riker, like off-racking with show him. Or he's going to be staying. Yeah, Kern's like, I don't want to go to my quarters. I want to work. Yeah. He goes onto the bridge and says, prepare to be big dog.
Starting point is 00:09:20 That will be big dogging all of you as a group and individually for the next several weeks. And he just crawls right up Wesley's ass too. The boy. Like almost immediately. And even Picard notices that and he's like, oh, I haven't been quite that far in there before. That's impressive. Yeah. Picard is kind of rolling his eyes at Kern's style of command.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And there's a lot of excuses made for Kern as having a different style of command. It's weird that during the Exchange program, it was on Riker to adapt to the Klingon crew. But Kern seems to be making it about the crew adapting to him. Yeah, I feel like it's, I don't know, I feel like in the 80s, there would be a lot of movies
Starting point is 00:10:12 where like, okay, this guy's a Japanese businessman, so we need to do all of the rules of etiquette that you would do if you were in his country, but then you go to Japan and nobody's like doing, I guess we just don't have any rules of etiquette. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's what's up, is that the Klingons are so fucking eccentric,
Starting point is 00:10:34 there's no like having them adapt to us. It's like, not to say that to Japan, I'm not making like a comparison to Japan or anything, I'm just saying. Yeah, geez, grandpa. Why don't you cool it at Thanksgiving, all right? Hey, listen. Watch my buddies die face down in the muck and guadal canal.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I don't need to be artful in my description of the Klingons. Yeah, so Kern goes around sprinkling the dog everywhere on everyone's treating, he's treating Wurf differently. He's almost overly polite to Wurf in a way that seems like he's teasing him. Very good lieutenant. You handle that well. It seems like maybe he wants Wurf to snap and be like
Starting point is 00:11:23 stop being such an asshole to my friends or something, but Wurf ain't no punk. So at a certain point, like Riker tries to man-to-man, commander-to-commander, talk-curn out of being such a raging shit head to everybody. Because everyone's complaining to Riker too. Yeah. Man, Will, man, will this guy
Starting point is 00:11:46 is just impossible to work for? Yeah. And Riker's like, I don't know what you think I can do. I mean, the guy's different, but you know, you just have to learn a deal. But Riker happens upon him in a turbo lift. Yeah. And things that would be a good time
Starting point is 00:12:00 to share some thoughts with Kurt. Yeah. And Kurt's response is basically like, you're really lucky I'm not on a cling on ship right now because I probably would have just stab you death and left you bleeding out in the hallway. And then I go to like a fancy dinner and current is like, oh my God, you guys are the best. Riker was just in the elevator with me. He tried to give me some advice.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Can you believe it? He's so lucky I didn't stab him to death. Like living and working aboard a Klingon ship must just be fucking crazy. Like, you enter any turbo lift and there could just be a dead guy in there. Yeah, like, boo. Brian must be offering a little more advice
Starting point is 00:12:43 than is strictly speaking his want. Yeah, geez. It's probably Klingon's name, Brian, right? Brian is probably spelled the B apostrophe RG, RGKKKN. I kept talking in one long, incredibly unbroken sentence, moving from topic to topic, so that no one had the chance to think the traffic was really quiet, not igniting. Oh, so this dinner scene, right? Yeah. Cards like, you know, much like Riker's tentacle buffet that he had before going to the Klingonship, you know, a great way to get to know any cultures through its culinary delight. So like the establishing shot is a close up of a turkey being carved by Picard. And there's kind of a full spread out
Starting point is 00:13:34 here, isn't there? Yeah, and some of it is identifiable food in some of its space food, but current is like, it's like that bird looks like it's dead. Yeah, and it looks like it's been dead for a long time. Did you leave it out in the sun or something? They're like, actually, this is fake bird that we replicated. Current isn't in any of it though, like turkey sucks. Yeah. No one wants that.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah, he says, when I say it, everything's giving, which is fine. I will eat your overcooked bird meat. Yeah, give me the dark meat, which is super smart. He grabs a turkey leg. Yeah. He goes for the good stuff. And he slathers it with the Luga caviar, which is just two great tastes that taste great together.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I've always said, yeah. You get some of that turkey skin. You make a little turkey skin taco with that caviar. That's salty. That's real salty. When we have Thanksgiving in my house, it's the classiest Thanksgiving. Everything is very expensive. We get the most expensive turkey.
Starting point is 00:14:36 We slather it with the nicest caviar. My friend Vladimir sends it over from Russia. It's incredible. You're going to love it. Believe me, it's one of the classiest things giving you'll ever see in the whole world. Kern is like the dinner guest that is not opposed to speaking his mind about everything. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I almost killed Riker in the Turbo Lift. Your food is disgusting to me. Your crew is soft and and and fearful yeah I'm
Starting point is 00:15:07 really not enjoying this at all he says in a in so many words right and so it's not long after this that he actually like starts to bust Werf's chops at his station and then he's like chilling in his in his apartment and Werf comes around and like tries to kind of speak his mind. And this shit gets real intense real quick. You know, Worf is asking for permission to speak freely and Kern considers it for a long time before finally granting it.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And what comes out in this intense confrontation that is like, it looks like it's about to turn into fisticuffs when Curran explains that he is worth little brother. God, this scene was such a head fake to me because I look around the apartment and there's glass tables everywhere. And I'm like, holy shit, it is going down and these tables are getting busted and they don't bust any
Starting point is 00:16:05 tables. They knock over a chair and that's it. It's like they did all that table busting in all of the preceding episodes so that this scene would surprise you so much. It really did, it was effective. There is also a very surprising tone shift, like it fades to commercial and then it comes back and it's like, wow wow so you're my brother cool just like getting to know each other yeah and uh Worf was not aware that he had any living relatives
Starting point is 00:16:48 and so the backstory with Worf is that his family were killed in a massacre perpetrated by the Romulans on the Klingons at Kittimer, which is also where the climactic scene of undiscovered country takes place. It's the planet where they were going to like sign the peace treaty. So Kern tells Wurf that like he was like testing Wurf's clingonness because he wasn't sure whether Wurf was truly clingon or if he was ethnically clingon but culturally human. So, once he's been satisfied that Wurf is tough enough and can hang with the clingon shit, he tells Wurf, like, listen, our dad was just posthumously condemned as a traitor to the empire because they turned up some evidence that says that he betrayed the kid of our outpost to the Romulans.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And if we don't go back and fight this shit, our family name is going to be shit for seven generations. And the stakes are really high because if they go back and fight it and lose their defensive his name, they get put to death. Right. They're, uh, they're brismirching his dad's name, and they can't stand, man. You know, this aggression will not stand, man. Nah, man, fuck that shit. Warf goes and tells Picard and he's like, hey can I like take a couple of weeks off so I can go deal with this and Picard's like,
Starting point is 00:18:09 no fuck that, like if your life is on the line and this is like some, you know, if you're gonna be like killed then it's my business too. So we're gonna go together. That scene is so great. He's like, can I take a couple of weeks off? I might not come back because I'll be dead. Yeah, and Picard walks out onto the bridge
Starting point is 00:18:30 and goes to Kern, lay in a course for the first city of the Klingon Imperial Empire. Oh. Just, what the fuck? Isn't the Imperial Empire just the most nakedly redundant phrase of all time? I don't know. What the fuck is that? We know it's called Kronos, right?
Starting point is 00:18:53 We have to at this point, right? It's canon by now. So why... I don't know. How could the first city be anywhere but Kronos? So Kern gets a special twinkle in his eye. He's like, oh yeah, we're gonna fight this thing, aren't we? Cool.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.
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Starting point is 00:19:24 Cool. Cool. Cool.cale out there. Yeah. It's like a little jungleier than Castle Grayscale, but it's got all of the evil architectural flourishes that you're gonna want in a Castle Grayscale type of place. Doesn't look like they have many sunny days there. No. Not a lot of patio furniture out. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The interior is look like a benihana. Like real dark, flat of red. Yeah, everybody's flipping shrimps into their hat.
Starting point is 00:19:53 A lot of onion volcanoes. Yeah, sure. Those are a big hit at the table. Boy, people love those. Yeah. Have you ever seen the video that Pyrr Tyrese Gibson shot in his backyard. Yeah, at his Benny Hanna at home that he built. Yeah, Gibson Hanna. It's amazing. Yeah. If you ever want to just go down like a rabbit hole on the internet of like how insane
Starting point is 00:20:22 is this person, look up that Tyrese Gibson, Gibson Hanna video. He's like, it's like, I think it's in like 2011 or 2013 or something, and he's like, big plans. Like this time next year, there's gonna be Gibson Hanna's in every American city. One day my dream is gonna come to life. It's like, what is this idea? This is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:20:46 They're like scream singing along to the woke up on a Bugatti rap song. Like it just seems like the most fun hang ever. Ben, I've made peace with the idea that I will probably never be rich, but God, he really does rich right, doesn't he? Building Benihana's in his backyard, who does that? Yeah, so they beam down to the mean hall,
Starting point is 00:21:12 like where the, I guess it's the like the Emperor's throne room, where the high council meets. The Benihana break room. And it is, we've got Riker, Picard, Kern, and Worf. And Worf is in the driver's seat for this because he's the elder brother and so like the affairs of the house fall to him in the like, Klingon system of honor. And he declares that he's there to defend his father's name and
Starting point is 00:21:45 Kim Peck the chancellor is like uh what are you doing here and uh I took San Vicente down to uh down to the five got off the pico. Yeah, exactly. And pretty quick on his feet is Doros,
Starting point is 00:22:17 the guy that basically forced through this nasty accusation. that basically forced through this nasty accusation. Duraz is like, he's got mega meatloaf on his forehead of his. He's got two extra ridges that most Klingons only have implications of. And he's. Really good diversity of foreheads. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's kind of cool, right? Like, Kern and Worf have kind of the same forehead mold, but then different klingons have
Starting point is 00:22:53 different topography. Yeah. Yeah, they're like fingerprints. Yeah. And like, Kempak is like, is full, is complicated as it gets, you know. Yeah. So you can tell a lot about like what their character is going to be like by what their forehead is up to. Yeah. And so like Picard says like this is my officer and I respect him, but that's like as far as he can go with being involved. And they're like, okay, like cool, you've earned the trust of your commanding officer,
Starting point is 00:23:26 that's good, especially with regard to Klingons, but like you're talking a lot of shit and you're gonna have to back it up. The whole reason this trial is happening is because this new evidence has been found, right? Right. The story is the Romulans attack this Kiddamer outpost and massacre to bunch of people. It was terrible. War was one of the few survivors of the attack. Right. And he was the only survivor of two, I believe. Right. And so that was old news. The new news is that some new information has come to light, man. There's all this new shit. It might not be just such a simple, you know? Yeah, and that information is that there was a transmission from the Kittamer Outpost to one of the Rimeelan ships
Starting point is 00:24:13 that caused the treachery that made the massacre happen. Right, it was the codes that let them drop the shields. Like they gave them what Kirk used on Khan. Right, and with the shields down down it was easy at that point. And so the evidence that this trial pretends to have is that it was it was moge, it was warfstad that sent this transmission. Right. They're gonna take the evidence back to the enterprise and like have the have the nerd squad look over it because they want to make sure that
Starting point is 00:24:49 what is being used to establish this case adds up. So there's like a light B storyline where they're, you know, Jordy and Data and Wes and whoever else are like looking at the transmission logs and like they've got some some logs from a starship that happen to be in the area and I guess it was like the first responder on the scene after the disaster. Right. And so they're looking into this and Kern is like walking down some spooky hallway somewhere and Duris comes around the corner. And Worf has insisted that Kern not reveal himself
Starting point is 00:25:25 to be Worf's brother. Like, Kern has been in his adoptive family and is not well known to be, in fact, the son of Mogue. But I guess Doris somehow figured that out. So they like talk shit back and forth a little bit. Like part of their shit talking is that Duras is aware of who Kern really is and and that Exposes Kern to the risk of being executed if the
Starting point is 00:25:53 Trial doesn't go well because It's everybody in the in the family if they're both in the trial, I guess Kern like realizes very quickly that Darius is there to try to put a hit on him, and then a couple of goons come out with knives and a stab-a-fly. Kern. Yeah, and he's not dead,
Starting point is 00:26:17 but he falls and he's pretty fucked up. Yeah, well, he's definitely not gonna be Chaddeaching any time soon. No, no, you're gonna be full strength to Chaddeech. And that's what the lawyer role is called. It's a crazy thing. What was the previous base? Are you not finding it within yourself?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Just stand up, tell the truth. You don't deserve to wear that uniform. So for some reason, they take current back to the enterprise, which I thought was a surprising choice. If they're in the capital city of an empire, wouldn't their medical facilities be good enough to patch this guy up? You would think except that in Klingon culture, there's sort of a willingness to die in an attack like this that is referred to when he's back on the enterprise like Beverly says something like wow, Kern's really strong. Like he took some stab wounds and
Starting point is 00:27:11 he's actually gonna survive. And I think someone mentions that he might have preferred death then to survive an attack like this. I think that's probably why he's not in a cling on hospital because I feel like the mortality rate in a cling on hospital is probably pretty troubling. Yeah. Yeah, not great. Think I'll back down. And now Picard is playing the role of Chad each.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And this is where Captain Picard, attorney at law, gets, goes into full effect. He cannot resist a good trial. No. He loves it. And but this is like not the trial he's used to. Like at one point Duraas like walks up to Wharf and slaps him across the face. He like backhand slaps him and wharf like holds his head to the side like like he knows he did wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:03 You just you know that Picard is like, is gonna do whatever he can to help his officer, but he also, he also knows he's a 60 year old man and he's surrounded by Klingon warriors. Like, that's not gonna go well if he starts and he shit. So he's gotta be cool. So the nerd squad has figured out two things.
Starting point is 00:28:24 One that the transmission logs that they've been given have some missing time code. And two, that there was this second cling on that was rescued, and her name was K-Lest, and she was like, Worf's nurse when he was a baby. And so they're like, you gotta go find her. She happens, she happens to live in the same city. And maybe she knows something. The cards are cool, I'll find her. Yeah. And so he like, he like goes and takes a walk through the barrio. Like, it is, it is the worst part of the worst part of town that you've seen. And all he's got is a, is a Terry cloth bathrobe as a disguise. Yeah, like there's like some blocks in New York that are not safe places.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And I usually have pretty good hood radar, you know. Do you wear a robe through those when you have to? Yeah, like I'll put on all of that. You'll grab one of those western robes. But like if you go to like a part of town that you're not supposed to be in, um, chances are fairly good that somebody will be kind enough to say like you probably should not be in this part of town. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Like they might not say it as probably is that, but uh, nobody gives Picard any such warning. Also, Riker prevents Picard from going on a way missions way tamer than this. Yeah. Where the fuck is Riker? Yeah. Like, oh man. Riker is really asleep at the switch on this episode. Yeah. He's still reeling from kissing that robot. Yeah. He's really putting a lean in what that might mean for his sexuality.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Maybe he's a Robo-sexual now. Yeah. He's like, he's working on a whole new holiday program based on this situation. It's got to explore some feelings. Command or raker. I've received your order. I must say, I've never built there's this many sex robots before from one client. I must admit your challenge intrigues me.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Show many holes. Show many robots. I'm led to believe that money is no object. Yeah, it seems like Riker's busy right now with a project. That's the only reason. That's the, that he's not the bodyguard for Picard. They cut a lot of the C storyline out of this episode, you know, just for time. Yeah. The montage of Riker unpacking box after box after all dolls.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Like, what are all these crates doing here? So Picard finds K-Lest and she is an old woman and he's like, listen, like, you know this family. Like, they treated you right, and they're fucked if nobody can clear this up for them. And she's like, I can't, like, I can't possibly. And he's like, come on, like, wouldn't they know who you are? And she's like, yeah, well, Chancellor Kempak would recognize me. He wanted to bone down back in the day, but I had a strict no fatties policy. I caught his eye back then.
Starting point is 00:31:52 He was too fat. Yeah, which is really like, look, the Klingons are not about politeness in any way. Yeah. That comes off as a specially gold. Yeah, and Picard, you know, tries and tries to convince her and she refuses and says like, you got to get the fuck out of here. The way she puts it is like she says that she died back then. Right. The person she was is not
Starting point is 00:32:17 the person she is and she can't help. She's like a ghost. And so he leaves, and as he exits her house, the knife-wielding goons that Duras has been piling around with show up and start a rumble that Picard is the object of. And so he actually does a little bit better fighting these guys than Kern did. Yeah, because he's got those, he's got Starfleet Captain moves.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah. He's doing Peri and Dodge and punchback combinations, like he's flipping guys over his shoulder. Yeah. He's curking a little bit, and it's fun. And he takes one of the guys out, but he's about to get stabified by the other guy when. Right, it's a little bit like Nosekin like you know?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. God that was my nerdiest moment on this show in like 30 episodes, holy shit. And he's like about to get stabbed and then the guy like, you know, goes like, and he falls, falls away and in falling reveals behind him that K-Lest has, has flowing a knife into his back. And so Picard is like, listen,
Starting point is 00:33:29 like maybe just going back, like even though you don't actually know anything about this shit, like they'll think you do. And so, and it'll like scare them into revealing more than they would reveal otherwise. And she's like, all right, let's do it. And so they get back like just in time to cut off a Kempak at the pass. Kempak is like about to announce that Worf is going to get executed at the card barges
Starting point is 00:33:56 in with K-Lest. And they have their big showdown. And Kempak is like, all right, you, you, you, and you, my office now. They go to like judges chambers. Yeah, or the Kempek equivalent of the captain's ready room. Right. And what comes out is that, in fact, Doris' father was the one that betrayed the Klingons to the Romulans, but the Durass family is super powerful and in Kempex calculation,
Starting point is 00:34:29 the Empire would not withstand the Durass family being shamed in this way. And so they were like, oh, like, listen, this wharf guy is like the last son of Mogue, and he doesn't even live in the Empire. Like he's not going to give a fuck if we throw some dirt on his name. And warfers like- He's made to be a patty. Right. And warfers like fuck you.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm more honorable than all of you. And just to show you how honorable I am, I'm gonna accept this commendation to save Dura's face and save the empire and like live in the shame that I came here to fight, and that's gonna be the glue that keeps the empire together. It's the ultimate company man move. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 He fucking throws himself on that grenade. Yeah, and not before slapping Duraz in the face. Yeah, he- He just sort of sent him a message. Gives that slap right back. And so very funny cut where it cuts to Kim back Yeah, yeah, he just sort of sent him a message gives that slap right back and Very funny cut where it cuts to Kim back and Kim back is nodding like yeah, you take that slap bitch And then that that that bit of street justice is basically the only reward for
Starting point is 00:35:46 Eating this bowl of shit. Yeah, and then and then K-list is like all right, I gotta go. By the way, Kenpick, you're still a fatty. Yeah, that was a fun scene. Like in quick succession, Duraskets slapped and Kenpick, it's called Fat again. Like the dozens table gets turned entirely. Malas are big old greasy ho. Every character in that scene has a strong want, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So they go back out and there's this very intense final scene where Picard and Worf and Kern are standing in the middle of a big circle of klingons. And Picard is like, listen, Kern, like Worf needs you to be cool right now. And he's going to let the situation cool down and then he's gonna fight for your family's honor. But for now, stay in the shadows is not a cent of mogue.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. And so the circle, everybody crosses their arms in front of their chest and turns their back on Worf and Picard. And the last one standing is his current. And Worf was like, you've got to do it, dude. Yeah. And he does, and then Picard and Wurf walk out.
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Starting point is 00:38:35 We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats.
Starting point is 00:38:49 We came two by two. What do you think? Ona Ross & Kerry, available on MaximumFun and Outorg. Some real cool, cling on world building in this one. Yeah, very extensive. Like it's as extensive world building, I think, has probably like the first
Starting point is 00:39:10 Borg's episode. Yeah, because you've got to believe that they, that they at least have a grasp of the arc to come. Like this setup is too pronounced to just have it a single story that we don't return to for a few more times. But it also really invest in it. It's taking the Klingons from a checker's level type of species to a chess level type of species.
Starting point is 00:39:37 We know a lot more about how it goes. I mean, the Klingons were portrayed as a little bit cartoonish when Riker does his portion of the exchange program and he punches a bunch of people and he electrocutes a guy and he eats the tentacles. Like they are formed and that you could argue even fully formed but they aren't as detailed and as nuanced as they are by the time this episode ends and they really feel like they are a credible counterpoint to the Federation. They are fully developed now in a way that they weren't previously. Really cool.
Starting point is 00:40:12 What do you think of the episode? I like that episode a lot. I think it's a good warfare, it's a good lawyer per card app, it's got a lot to recommend it I think. It's interesting to me that at its conclusion, Wurf demonstrates that he's the ultimate company man by making his sacrifice. But his sacrifice is both totally clinging on
Starting point is 00:40:34 and totally human and reasonable, you know? Totally. Yeah. Because to me, a clinging on would play the short game and play for the moment and go for the brutal end. Like a real Klingon might have stabbed Duros right then and there. Right. And it's warf's reluctance to do that that sort of makes his decision a combination of
Starting point is 00:41:00 the most human aspects of him culturally and also his definite love for his Klingon homeworld and his Klingon government. Right. You would assume that those two things would be in conflict but he has found a way to bond them together in a way that works for this outcome. That was pretty interesting. And it's like it's cool to think going forward like that this is going to be something that just like eats away at him until he can to think going forward, like that this is gonna be something that just eats away at him until he can resolve it. Yeah, like that too, like it wasn't a tidy end. Like his people cross their arms
Starting point is 00:41:34 and turn their backs on him and war fleas, and that's it. Like it's both satisfying and unsatisfying. Mm-hmm. Pretty great. Adam, why don't we check in with our subspace radio and see if anybody has ordered a priority one message. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Need a supplement on it. supplement on it. supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. We have a commercial priority one message here for a pretty cool book. It's called The 50 Year Mission, the next 25 years.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And it is an oral history book about Star Trek the next generation. There's actually, this is the second of two books, Ben. There was like an original oral history book on the first 25 years, but this jumbo tron is about specifically the second one, because it has to do with the next generation. Yeah, I mean, and that's like right in our wheelhouse. It's definitely like the point at which I pick up interest in the universe. And I really love the movies with the original cast but mm-hmm I've never really like sunk my teeth deep into the original series so this is a book I would
Starting point is 00:42:50 definitely give a read or a listen this is uh this is out now and you can listen to the next 25 years wherever you download your audiobooks and I would imagine they probably also have it in stores. Yeah, I love oral history books, Ben. I think my favorite books that I've read over the last couple of years have been oral histories, that SNL book especially. Oh yeah, there's a really good one on the early days of hip hop that I really liked. Yeah. I can't remember the title of.
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Starting point is 00:43:51 probably do that and have a perfectly nice time. And then everybody that poops at your house will know what a nerd you are. That's not in the copy. That's not the official. I think anyone who poops at my house is just amused and grateful that I have so many wipes available. The copy here says the 50-year mission the next 25 years is an incisive no-holds-barred oral history telling the story of Star Trek the next generation and beyond. Get the inside scoop there's a wealth of new information for even the most ardent to ENG fan. Well Ben, that's us Yeah, I mean like we're the kind of ardent TNG fans that are Almost laughably averse to doing actual research, but this may turn that whole situation around
Starting point is 00:44:38 That's right. If you're interested in the book you can start listening to it now It's out right now to search for the next 25 years wherever you download your audio books. Yeah. Well, we really appreciate Macmillan for getting that commercial message. And we really hope that people go check out that book because I think if you're interested in this show, there's a very good chance it'll be interested in this book. Adam, we have a second priority one message, and this is a personal message from Dan,
Starting point is 00:45:11 and it is too rosy. Dan says, happy birthday to Rosie. Now you have to try and live down the fact that this Star Trek podcast now exists partly because of you. Love Dan. Whoa, that's a lot to live with. It's like a gift and a curse. Yeah, wow.
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Starting point is 00:46:10 What a delight Happy birthday, Rosie Happy birthday Ben yeah Yeah Adam. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda in this episode? A drunken Klingon Shimoda even? I did. Of course, drunk Shimoda is the award we give every episode to the characters, doing something silly or incongruous or just having the most fun. I will give my Drunk Shemota award to Kaylest. I was just like, what is this woman's life?
Starting point is 00:47:00 She was, I guess theoretically, like the guardian of a young wolf and was separated from him by some kind of inscrutable decision that was made at a starbase run by Starfleet. Retire is back to the Klingon home world and used to be the object of the affection, of the chancellor of the entire government, and instead lives in the hood in total obscurity. And the second she's back out in the halls of power,
Starting point is 00:47:38 she's just like, this is the guy and goes back to her. That is like, you'll so good. Yeah, it's like Jesus Christ. Like you couldn't go on one date with the guy. No, no fatties. That's her rule. Yeah, it's fucking brutal. She doesn't want to go digging around that belly. She's a, she's a body-shaming bigot. That's what I said. Yeah, that's fair. How about yourself? One major missed opportunity for this episode is also totally understandable.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Like I wanted to see the montage of Picard walking these city streets on his way to Kaylist. Like, what do you think a Klingon slum looks like? We see a little bit of it outside of Kaylist's apartment. But man, I understand that it would be too much budget to show, but the journey from council chambers to that apartment had to be amazing. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And head can and makes it seem interesting, even maybe even more interesting than it probably was. But do you think he got on the subway and got on the wrong car and somebody demanded that he give him his shoes? There's like a legless Klingon riding a skateboard like through the middle of the subway like with the cup out Yeah, like I don't know there could have been like some really interesting world building there I'm giving my point being I'm giving a Shimoda to Picard for
Starting point is 00:49:04 The hubris to just go out into the world by himself Captain of the flagship of the Federation Sometimes hubris is all you need to defend yourself in the hood though Either you are an idiot or you can carry yourself and it is up to the challenger to decide whether or not you're worth it To roll that dice and I guess no one thought it was worth it to fuck with Picard. Nope, I'm not. But, wow. Yeah, I thought, I mean, as a character, you know he got a kick out of that.
Starting point is 00:49:33 So my Shemotus Picard. Ben, do we have a fun episode next week? Next episode is season 3 episode 18, Allegiance. Without the crew's knowledge, Captain Picard is kidnapped and replaced by an evil impostor. Do you remember this episode, Adam? Wes is like something feels different. I don't remember this episode at all. I feel like this has happened a couple of times, though, where Picard's been under mind control or something,
Starting point is 00:50:05 and he's done bad things to the ship or the crew. But I don't remember this specific episode. I vividly remember this episode, because I think that it's the one where Picard is in like a small cell, and there's like four aliens, and he's got a like, it's like a twilight zone episode in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Is he being fire in the sky a little bit? Oh, I don't know that reference. That movie fire in the sky with, I don't know if it's DB Swini or Judge Reinhold. I firmly believe they're the same person. But yeah, it was like a mid 90s science fiction movie. This isn't a similar storyline. Well, yeah, he's abducted and it's like kind of a It's kind of like a you know, who can you trust in this cell and how do we get out of here by working together and
Starting point is 00:50:58 The only thing to eat is these like red hockey pucks. Oh That brings it back to me a little bit. I Remember those pucks cool. I'm in to seeing this. Yeah got to see it anyway. Yeah, we don't have any vetoes to to utilize Hey, Ben say I like the show and and say I want to do something to support its production. How might I do that? Well, you got a few options. The easiest thing would be to review us on iTunes and tell a friend, you know, get more people interested in the show.
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