The Greatest Generation - Be The Industrial Mixer You Want To See In The World (DS9 S3E4)

Episode Date: September 17, 2018

When Jadzia whips out some treacly keyboard skills at a dinner party, she puts the Siskos in an awkward position. But as her life turns into a bad episode of Fool Us with Penn and Teller, it starts to seem like Dax may have forgotten more than just her level of musical proficiency. Which host is in the pocket of Big Pun? Are Dax and Sisko chess hipsters? How does anyone get any shuteye on the Defiant? It’s the episode where we find out who’s Charlie Brown, and whose balls he’s trying to kick. Come see us live on tour with Greatest Gen Khan🎉🎉🎉! Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets!

Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,

and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate

in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic

and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecisoto for labor.com. That's friendsofdisoto for labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Deep Space Nine, a Star Trek podcast that may kill two embarrassed young men. I'm Ben Harrison.

I'm Adam Pranika. This is a very special episode, an episode that probably no one should listen to. If anybody recommended this show to you, and this is the first episode you're trying, stop. It's stop right now. Don't even listen to a different episode to start. Just don't. Yeah. Yeah, I think it should be mentioned that it's 11 in the morning. It's on in the morning. It's on a weekday. It's really the only time that we could possibly do this.

Yeah. But we do it for you, dear viewer. We both have busy weeks next week. So we had to squeeze this in now. We are ruining each other's days because we landed on a certain square. We landed on the Mornhammered square. And that is this episode. My desk area has been set up with a number of towels and absorbent materials.

It looks like I'm... You will get wet, you might get soaked. It looks like I'm scheming to do a murder in my basement. Do you have that sort of translucent raincoat on that Patrick Bateman puts on? Yeah, I've got sports playing on the turntable. You like Huey Lewis on the news? Yeah, but you have sports playing because you were listening to Jordan Jesse Goe and Jesse Thorntrick, your Alexa, right? Yeah, I mean, I gotta say, like, fairly nervous about what's what's about to happen. We just watched an episode where we're about to do a show.

Let's talk about these nerves, Adam. What are your fears going into this? Because, and we haven't started drinking yet. I think we'll, are we gonna start drinking when we start reviewing? Yeah, I think that's the spirit of the Mornhammer Square. Okay, so what are your primary fears here? I think primarily I wanna do a good show. Like, that is, that's all I wanna do for every show. I want to do a good show. Like, that is, that's all I want to do for every show.

I want the show to be good. And you've had over 200 opportunities to try and do that. And you've failed miserably every time. What makes you think this will be different? I'm really like Charlie Brown kicking Lucy's football here. I guess I'm the football, right? Not Lucy. Your balls are the football.

I've been buffer water drinking all morning. I've been preparing my body for this. I'm excited. I'm excited and nervous. That's where I'm at. I've had relatively little water. And I know this show is going to be bad, but I think that...

Is that in the stages of greatest gen, like you've reached acceptance already? It took you just three minutes to do that? Yeah, but I've never, I've done like two other power hours in my life successfully. I've probably embarked on four and punched out of half of them early. The two that I succeeded at, I did not get through the hour not having to run in P. And the issue here is like we edit the show.

We edit the show, Adam. Yeah. So this show and police will be edited. So if you're out there trying to like hit a stopwatch between shots of beer that we take, that's probably not gonna sync up. But the issue is like we are gonna do the hour. We're gonna do the hour properly.

Right. And that might mean that at some point I have to run and piss while you hold down the podcast and vice versa. That's happened before on the show. I guess that's true. Yeah, I just, I hate putting people in awkward positions and I don't want that to happen to you. I don't. Sure. Ben, why don't you tell the viewers what kind of beer you'll be drinking? I've gone with a supporto Beer for this for this project. Is that one of those giant cans?

No, it's just it's their just regular size 12 answers. Yeah And nice light crushable beer.. I certified porch beer. How about yourself? I did not have enough of a single beer to do this, so I'm actually doing different beers. The beer I will be starting with is the Frem Mexican style logger, which is my new favorite porch beer. Then I'm looking forward to sharing a couple of these with you when you come up here. We might be permanently off beer after this though.

Yeah. This is a 500-mill bottle, which makes the math not exactly square up with my backup beer, which is a Pacifico in the standard 12-ounce format that college kids have come to know and love For decades over so I'll be starting with three frees and then I'll be backing it up with however many pacificos It takes to do the how many shots This is 60 shots so it's 60 shots and seven and a half standard beers

But because I'm using non-standard beers, the math on my ends is gonna be a little different. Yeah, what is that about? What is it about 10 shots in a, in 500 milliliters? Is that roughly the conversion? Let's see. I'm actually. I'm actually 44 or 45 milliliters.

Yeah, yeah, that's, I. Oh no, no, yeah. It should surprise no one that I've got a bunch of shot glasses lined up, but I also have a bunch of small four table spoon, like quarter cup measuring cups. So I'm gonna have, like what I wanna do is not be pouring and measuring while I'm talking or listening,

like I wanna have these ready so that I can do good part with you. That's my strategy. That's smart and more prep than I have put into this because. I'm actually gonna start filling shot glasses right now while we're doing the Marin, I think that's smart. Yeah, that's good thinking.

I have a cooler full of beers and ice too, is that how you're doing it? Yeah, I have an insulated Trader Joe's shopping bag full of beers and ice. So I don't have a shot glass in my house. What? The two things I had that were close enough where there was a, like a glass that I got

as a promotion when I bought a bottle of Verna Amaro, but it's like a big old tall glass. And so, and it's, I don't know, I just didn't wanna, it seemed like a real hassle to use that. And then I had this other thing that I think is a little glass cup that's meant for- I've already spilled, God dammit.

Ha ha ha ha. Little glass cup that's meant for a votive candle to be in, I believe. And so I, yeah. You're gonna be pounding some vanilla beers, is that what you say? I will be eyeballing this. No, I don't get, I don't get scented candles. No scented candles allowed through the front door of this house. God, you know what I should be doing is, is taking my keyboard away from this scene.

I don't need a keyboard for this. No. That's a terrible idea. Yeah, you want to... Okay, keyboard is well away now. You want to do some risk mitigation. I'm beginning to wonder how big a mistake it was for me not to bring a towel in here for this. I think you should get a towel, TBH.

I think that's just good housekeeping. Good podcast housekeeping. My worst fear is starting now. I'm gonna go you're gonna have to vamp while I run and get a towel. I can do that. I think maybe one of the funniest things I could do is not do this contest with Ben and just be shooting water. I have to admit to you Dear viewer that the thought did cross my mind But I will have you know I have visual evidence that I will be participating fully In this stupid stupid game Okay, I'm back. Hey, I'm gonna Jackie and Laurie you my in this stupid, stupid game.

Okay, I'm pick. Hey, I'm gonna Jackie and Lori you, my, uh, my setup here. My works, if you will. You know what I don't want accidentally send that picture to? Is my wife at work, which almost happened. There you go. That would be bad. There are my samples.

Wow, that is a very pale lager you're dealing with. It really is. It's very tasty. I love it. But yeah, you're right. In a way that many Mexican lagers are not, this is super pale. Yeah.

I like that you keep pictures of your of your wife on your desk. That's really sweet. Oh yeah. Yeah, man, I'm I need to remember why I'm doing this stupid shit. Just support our family, Ben. Yeah. All right. Well, I think I'm gonna go with the opposite strategy just to just to a beat. I'm gonna just be pouring pouring and knocking these back as we go. And I have to kind of eyeball what an ounce and a half is because this is not a regulation shot glass by any means. I'm I am still shocked that you are for being such a cocktailer, a person who does not have a shot glass.

I don't really drink shots, you know, especially at home. Like I might do a shot if like somebody comes over with a tray of them and I'm out with some friends or whatever, but I'm not like making a shot for myself. Well today we will be making 60 shots for ourselves as we embark on the very first, the first of hopefully no more, more than hammered episodes of the greatest generation. Let's talk about deep space 9, season 3, episode 3, equilibrium, Ben, cheers to you. Cheers buddy. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't.

Do you think that it's condescending for Cisco to explain liquid dynamics to Odo? Because in this cooking scene, he's super jazzed up about cooking his zatterams for everyone. And he's like, this goes our cooking up a storm. It's all in the wrist. Yeah, and it's a fun scene, like food scenes, I think, are what TNG did to demonstrate this growing friendship among the crew. And we got our very first cooking scene here.

It's nice. What are we having? It smells delicious. It's very fun. I mean, some of the inaccuracies of it kind of stuck in my craw. Like, the fact that they call that bowl of guacamole a souffle and the fact that he says that they're sotaying beets when they are clearly braising those beets. Is that a Jackie Lopez alt situation in progress here that you're criticizing?

Are you combining oh doing a shot? Are you combining Jackie oh, doing a shot. Are you combining Jackie Cation and Jake Angie Lopez Alt? I sure am. One of the funniest texts you've ever sent me was that when you got home from our most most recent tour leg, your wife had bought a Jake Angie Lopez Alt book And you felt very betrayed by that. Yeah, I mean, the last thing you want to do is come home from a trip and there's another man in your house. Yeah. And there he is, like threatening to flip over my wife over and over and over again, like his recipe for steaks, right? Isn't that a deal? It just drives me nuts that they would be braising these beads.

And nobody on the set knows enough about cooking to say that's a braise, not a saute. This is a group of people that eats four years at crafty. Like they don't know anything about cooking, right? I guess not. Riders don't know, director doesn't know. Why did you learn all this? I mean, I love the scene. I think the cutest part is clearly Odo stirring with his hands the bowl instead of the whisk. He's doing that thing that like when you hand your mom the Nintendo controller, like she like moves her whole body when she's trying to move the character on the screen.

Yeah. His head is moving, the bowl is moving, he's holding the whisk wrong, you know, it's all new to him. Aren't there like, They're really fun way. Industrial mixers that also move the bowl along with the whisk. I feel like maybe he's just smart like that. Maybe he wants to be an industrial mixer and not just a person mixer.

Just shift shape, dude. Be the industrial mixer you want to see in the world. Hey, I got a question for you Ben, if you've been keeping track of the number of shots we've taken because that's not something I'm doing. I guess... I think I'm about to hit four right now. I guess you count the minutes and the minutes are the shots. That makes sense. That was a dumb question.

Yeah, what a stupid question. Sure was already dumb. It feels like a lot already. I will tell you that. Like the person at every party who is the most unwelcome. Like and by that I'm talking about the person who brings a guitar to a to a cookout like a dex finds Jake's Cassio keyboard and is like, oh I didn't even know I didn't even know you were you were a player and Jake's like I'm not I didn't even know you were a player.

And Jake's like, I'm not. I'm not at all. I just fuck a lot. And so Dex is down. That's what he says, right? I'm not a player, I just fuck a lot. No, yeah, I get your big pun reference. You're known for both terrible puns

and terrible references to big pun. That's what you do on the show. Yeah, I'm in the pocket of big pun. If ever you hear me go away, it's just because I'm taking a shot. Same. Yeah, so Dex does not turn on the demo on this keyboard. Instead she starts kind of tinkle in a way at it. And she's kind of talking about how No, DAX has ever been good at music. You would think one of us

Would have been born without a tinier. Well Providing evidence to the contrary sounds like one of you had some talent after all which is that she kind of knows What key to hit after the key she just hit which if she weren't a symbion would be like really obnoxious, right? If someone at your party just demonstrated the skill like this and was like, oh, I thought I sucked. But look at me, I'm great. Yeah, I have a friend like that where you just put an instrument in his hand and he can never have played it before

and he'll find something interesting and sort of compelling to do with it. No one likes that person. God damn it. It sort of plays us into theme song Which is a very strange way to go I think yeah, they don't peg the needle with This is spooky and weird they just they just let let the camera linger on Jadzee's face as she contemplates how weird that was. Yeah. And I liked it.

After the open, we find Dax and Cisco playing a game of regular, basic, two-dimensional chess. Ben, why would you ever play two D-chess in a world with three D-chess? Maybe they're like chess hipsters. I love the old style chest. It's so classic. I really love how the pieces feel in my hands. Handcrafted aspect.

I'm actually going to do a Kickstarter to start a handcrafted chessboard company. Yeah, it's really gross. It's a gross depiction of chess hipsterism. Yeah, also just like I don't trust anybody who plays chess with their boss at work. I think it's the same thing. You're your boss, but like in his office at work, aren't they supposed to be doing something here? Did you ever have when you worked a square job, did you ever like have lunch with your boss or like do things like that or were you purely a like separation of work and state type person? No, I would say that I was definitely pals with my boss the time I had a job.

Yeah. So I can say with 100% certainty that I am friends with my boss. Hey Ben, do you think I'm your boss now? I think we're kind of each other's partners. Yeah, I think that's... But sometimes we have to be boss to each other. I don't know. It's a role we both sometimes play.

I think that's good. I think that makes for a healthy pod. You know what doesn't make for a healthy pod, Ben? Everything we're doing this episode. Yeah, I have just for your reference, since you're working with the metric system, I have finished one entire can of beer already. I have finished my first bottle,

but they are separated into six remaining shot glasses. So you haven't really finished it, is what you're saying? No, I mean, but that gives us the measurement, so like a 500mm is six shots of beer more than a 12-mounce beer. You really want to do this here? Now, okay, okay, let's do it, do it! Just is also just in a real foul mood during this chess game.

I mean, she's distracted, she's humming to herself, which is not, you know, if you're spending time with somebody in there, this aloof and preoccupied with whatever they're preoccupied with, not a fun hang. Is it weird that no one is on their best behavior around Cisco at any given time? Like one of the ways that Picard commanded respect is that like what was said about the character of Picard is that like I already just missed a shot. Fuck is that he was never invited to play

such games and his distance was what sort of. Was he not invited or did he maintain the distance? Cause like in that last episode, since I should have done this a long time ago, but like we would have felt really different about that if when he lost a hand of poker, he just swept all the chips off the table the way Jadzia does here. The relationship pendulum is really swung

in the other direction because like Cisco is depicted as boss and friend to so many and an old friend of Jetsie is specifically so Jetsie's next stop is a grumpy hang at the replement where a Kira comes in and is like hey, what the hell is going on with you and And it is real confrontational. Like, she is, she isn't a bad way. Really not herself. I got a question for you.

Is it about that maybe a gem hadar that was sitting in the background? Do you think Kira could kick Dax's ass if it really came down to it? Like I'm sizing up Kira's like fight history. And we know that like Dax likes to wrestle for fun and sport. Yeah, but Dax is pretty ranger, but I think... Yeah, I think Dax has the reach certainly, but I think Kira is a fucking brawler,

and if she gets you on the ground, you are fucked. I think what I'm trying to say is I'm betting on Kira in that fight. Yeah, Kira's like a like a feral dog. She'll kick the shit out of anybody. It's part of what I find to be so attractive about her. You imagine her beating the shit out of you. Yeah, maybe that's my thing. Maybe my thing isn't, uh, Bajorin, it's just women who could hurt me. That's why you like that cling on, maybe in the last episode so much.

That's why I like my wife. Yeah. So Dex kind of shoves Kira out of the way and goes on a terrifying walk down the promenade where everybody is replaced with some community theater actors doing a Greek chorus type thing. What is the deal with starch-fix preoccupation with the Jabba walkies? They had a lot of mesh left over from that TNG episode. Benjamin, I disappoint you with some knowledge here, knowledge that I found through research.

This is actually how this episode started. Michael Pillar, like when... Michael Pillar watched a magic show. A magic show that was done by the actor who plays Joran Balar, which we'll introduce later as a main figure in the show, and was like, how do we make an episode about this magic show? And the magic show was all about this magician removing masks that reveal another mask beneath. That's how it started.

That's how inspiration happens, Ben. There are some cool moments with that, where you start peeling a mask and then a second mask half is underneath it or whatever. Get the fuck out of my house. But I don't know if it's used well. Star Trek does a bad job with dreams and hallucinations because I think science fiction is so fantastic. That how do you beat science fiction with a dream? It always seems a little bit disappointing because science fiction is so amazing, you know?

Yeah, the needles are already pegged for fantastic imagery. So like the sleight of hand aspects of this are a nice idea, but I don't know that they work necessarily. Yeah, but I mean, this scene is obviously terrifying to DAX who is like her hallucination is broken by Quark running into her. The Quark is in this episode.

Quark was in... Armand Shimmerman was in makeup for six hours. He's in this episode for ten seconds. That's not good value. One only hopes that they shot this scene on a different day where they were shooting different Quark shit with him for a different episode. God, I really hope so. I don't really know how that works, but boy.

Oh, Brian's not in this episode either. How does it work? Do you even go to work if you're not in the show or are you there just hanging out on set? in the show or are you there just hanging out on set? Maybe when you're not in the episode you're like taking affiliates on a tour of the set or something like that. You're working in Star Trek Las Vegas like that when they had that whole setup. Yeah. Was that Colin Meeney who just made my cocktail? Hey man, work is work! And I'm starting to feel like these shots are relentless. Like, I feel like I've just finished one and the next one is like already 20 seconds overdue.

I feel the same way. I feel like I'm drinking as fast as I can right now. And that's a bad sign. It's really relentless. Dex goes to Six Bay, which I guess is the only place you can go when you're having hallucinations. I mean, it's either that or the chill out tent, right? Gotta tell you, a lot of long lingering pans over Jetsie.

It dexes body while she's laying down in this episode. Yeah, there's a real pervy camera direction in this episode. Yep. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? It's very the male gaze as camera direction. I don't like that. Why are they doing that to her? It's like a very interesting episode about a very interesting character on paper, but

it feels so like lascivious the way they shot it. Yeah. It pays her very little respect, you know? Like, I think that as a performance, what Terry Farrell is doing in this episode is really tremendous, and the camera does not care about it. She's so vulnerable when she wakes up on that slab, and Bashir and Sisko are like, you know, she realizes that she's been a monster to them, and she's scared, and she's dealing with a lot. And the camera is like, oh at look at that nice flat term

Ben the camera is not woke and I don't like that at all about this episode wake that camera up I mean in much in the same way as like A buddy forgives another buddy for getting a little out of control the night before This goes like it's all right, Dax. It's cool. Like I understand you're going through a thing uh... a buddy forgives another buddy forgetting a little out of control the night before sis goes like it's alright tax it's cool like i understand you going through a thing

it's forgiven in forgotten and understand your a mask drunk you do not want to be you don't want to be a couple kinds of drunk you don't want to be uh... a hostile drunk like an aggressive drunk you don't be a mask strength certainly certainly not you want to be a a bubbly lovely drunk like your pals Benjamin R Harrison and Adam Pranika oh I thought I was a mean drunk Adam now I wouldn't say that you know one thing I've noticed about our Facebook group is that a lot of people are using R as a middle name there I

think that's a tribute to you I know you're not on Facebook anymore, but I've noticed this. That must have happened since I departed Facebook. Is that what they're doing like to salute your departure? Are they trying to bring me back? That's not how they bring you back. Like clapping for tinkerbell? Clapping for tinkerbell. The Benjamin R. Harris and social media story.

Yeah, that's not far off. So, yeah, this is treated as a legitimate medical emergency. And they're worried that the symbiote in Jadziya is potentially at risk. Like there's some neuro-transmitter chemical or something that is, her levels are not good, her humors are out of balance. So it's time for a defiant road trip. I'm ahead to the Trill Homeworld,

which is also what Bun B's fourth album is called. I love, like, why haven't we seen the Trill Homeworld before? I know, it's so weird. I want to believe it's a world inside another world, right? Like, we see exteriors of it, but I was expecting a little bit more. Yeah, that's fun. There's an ENM banks novel that's set on a shell world where there's like several concentric planets. So there's like the outside part and then like each and then there's like layers at regular

intervals. So and like one of the layers is like a medieval type of environment. So there's like princes and knights and like bows and arrows and stuff and they have no idea that they're like living in this sci-fi reality. I just wanna say for the record at my 19th shot, I'm feeling it, I'm feeling it hard. Oh, I've been feeling it, dude. I wanna, I wanna, I wanna talk about this before we get too drunk, but they they're at this point in the episode,

like they're an orbit of trill and Cisco and Bashir, like take a moment on the bridge and they talk about how strongly they feel about DAX. Yeah. And I hate this shit because DAX is a character that is rarely given an episode of her own, is rarely given anything besides like peripheral backstory dialogue to do up until now. Like, the show has not cared about her as much as Cisco and Bashir are saying they do. As a way to like gin up the stakes of this thing. And, and like, I'm gonna put you on the spot. Can you think of a DAC centric episode that wasn't the one where her trill gets stolen? I can't. I

can't either. They're very, very, very few and it's, and it's a real shame. It's, it's a little bit of Star Trek returning to its roots of putting the female characters in a terracotta pot, you know, this is the 49th episode of Deep Space 9 And I think that's I think she's a main character. What is she like fourth billing on the show? Yeah, it's pretty fucked the tone deafness of this character is in danger and the only way we know how to express that is by having two of her male cast members talk about it for a second. I'm gonna run. I'm gonna run. I'm gonna run. I'm gonna run.

I'm gonna run. I'm gonna run. I'm gonna run. DAX is feeling reluctant to be back at the Trill Homeworld because the Institute, like here's another thing that I wish that they interrogated a little bit more was like, how similarly... How similarly, how a like, a DAX must feel about going back to the Trill home world as Odo must feel whenever he has an interaction with one of his like goo scientists. Like DAX's major issue with going back home is like what she was subject to on this planet, like they were spraying perfume in her eyes.

They were giving all of this testing ahead of them sticking the ankylosaur. Ankylosaur. Indoor, like she's afraid of doctors because of this. You're saying she's like a cosmetic test bunny? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. And I understand it. I wonder like I went to an extremely challenging grade school and middle school. I went to the same school for nine years until I went to high school. And it was super like challenging

on an academic basis, but I also, there was also like an administrator at the school that hated my guts. Like he hated my rotten guts. Is it cause you beat him at tennis? He made my life really miserable and like that guy. I like, like, and it's something I've been like digging up in therapy recently is how much a lot of my present day dysfunction

can be traced to stuff that I was subjected to in school. And yet, I love that school. And I've always thought if I ever made money, I would donate money to that school. I have such a stock Stockholm syndrome around it almost. And, obviously. I mean, I had fabulous teachers there, but also, a couple of pretty, oh man, that rant cost me two shots,

and now I have to do two shots. Van for a second. That rant cost me two shots, and now I have to do two shots. Vant for a second. There's a nice scene between Dax and Bashir, where Dax can't sleep, and Bashir believes that it's because Dax wants to fuck him, but then quickly pivots into Dax, actually saying, no, I don't want to fuck you.

I'm actually having a hard time sleeping, and here's why. And it's a nice moment between Bashir and her because Beshear is like, look, here's the reason I became a doctor. I was originally afraid of doctors too. I hated the shots. I hated the fingers. I hated the cold stethoscope.

I used to think that if I didn't behave, they'd make sure I got sick. But listen, I'm a good doctor and here's the reason why and you can take whatever bunk you want if you want to take it And he's also just a really good friend to her in this moment. Yeah, I mean his romantic interest in her is is stated and obvious but It's it's not an issue that he presses when it's clear that that's not the kind of comfort she's there looking for. And I think that's like maybe one of the best moments in the episode is that all of that stuff gets dropped the second. It's clear that that's unwelcome in this moment.

I have a crucial question about this scene, Ben. When TNG stopped being in production, did they get rid of all the sparkly blankets? Because why don't they have blankets on the defiant? And furthermore, is there a kind of invisible technology that warms you like a blanket wood on that ship? Which relieves you of the need for that blanket. I'll tell you one thing, Ben. No matter how hot, I like to have a little sheet on top of me. I don't know why. I need a sheet. I would not be able to sleep on the defiant.

I wonder, can you go to the defiant replicator and say, one sheet please? What's up with Beshear being a great host and friend to DAX but not offering her a blanket? Yeah, I guess I got to retract the complimentary things I said about Beshear in that scene. He didn't go far enough. People are always falling asleep on TV and in movies, and then somebody comes over and pulls the sheet up on them. Yeah. That is not me. Like, you're never gonna catch me asleep

without a sheet on me. Yeah, you and me both. I think that's been the greatest adjustment to coming home from tour is like having total sheet control when I'm sleeping alone. Yeah. Compared to some sheet competition. That's what's happening.

I came home from tour to an empty house because my wife is on a little trip with some of her friends gone for about a week. So I've had like three consecutive weeks of total bed autonomy. What? Yeah. Hey, how many days have you been home alone then? Like since? I've been home alone since we got back from a tour,

like almost a week now. I made my family disappear. Wow. How many times have you jacked it? Like in the living area Like like the public space the space where your mailman could see Space where my mailman can see is sacrosanke and I would not do it in there Yeah, he doesn't want to see that flag up and by sacrosanke

I mean there's a couple of windows in our place that don't have blinds on them, because I haven't gotten around to putting them up. And there's a 0.01% chance that my neighbor would be in the back passageway there. Yeah. I don't want to give anybody an eye full of that. Also, Adam, my parents listen to this show. Are you kidding me?

It wouldn't surprise me at all to know that your mom gave you a tri-fold pamphlet on proper masturbation techniques. Your mom is super cool. I will say that she wants you touching that junk. I think my brands have seen us live on stage three times now before. Is that why I feel like our relationship is getting worse? I feel like 75 times now in the line of people coming up to say I had to us after live shows somebody's been like hey it's that next to your parents during a show last year they're super cool!

my mom saw us do a live show and that was sufficient that was once that was one parent and once one parent only yeah band back Ben back on the surface of planet, Ankylo-Sor. We get like one of the low key most condescending things that anyone does to anyone else, which is like the the performative pronunciation of a thing. Ben, this is something you do to me all the time.

When, uh, when Dr. Rainall pronounces The performative pronunciation of a thing Ben, this is something you do to me all the time When uh when Dr. Raynall pronounces Dax's name as Jadzia Jadzia That's so irritating. She also says Boshier when she's talking about the doctor. He must be Dr. Boshier I love that choice like I feel like it makes us not like her right away, right? Right? But like as an actor to make that choice, like this character is this. It's the right choice.

It's the right choice. Yeah. Yeah, it's so low key irritating. This is Lisa Baines as a Dr. Ren Hall. She's doing a great job with this. She's, here's what she gets to do in this role. She gets to put emphasis on interesting syllables. It's assess the window, not asses the window. And she gets to leave the room going through

the door. She leaves the room going through the door like three times this episode. Did you notice that? Yeah, there's just a set that she comes and visits them in and then leaves. It's so weird. Like they hold the shot for her to leave. It's a very like student script, like you know, like film school, student script, yeah, idea where like, oh, we'll do this a bunch of times. And it doesn't have a meaning,

but we're gonna do it. And maybe it will develop one. Right, like you want someone to come up to you after the film and go, I got it. I got what you were trying to do. Adam, I just want to check in here. We just, we just crossed the 30 minute mark on the power hour. How are you feeling? I'm into the third per frame. I'm, uh, I'm feeling strong. Like the energy is up, which is good. Like I, I, I don't want to feel like I'm fading and I'm not strong, like the energy is up, which is good. Like I don't wanna feel like I'm fading and I'm not.

And I think that's, I think that's what 11 o'clock in the morning does for you. I think, I think if we were to do this episode at like eight at night, I think that would be a worse episode. I think we'd be pretty punch drunk at that point, but day drunk, I think makes for a better pot. I got up this morning and had a hangover. Oh!

I examined what led to that hangover, and I realized that it was just a series of poor personal decisions. Like, I'm home alone. I like, all I did I did last night was make myself dinner and watch your movie, but I drank enough that apparently I got to hangover level. I think maybe this part should be cut into the beginning of the episode, but we don't condone binge drinking here. No. If anything where what we're condoning is safe, responsible drinking in the privacy of your own home, where you can't hurt anyone, and you're not in control of a vehicle.

So we're doing this under the supervision of professionals. Right. And my professional that's supervising me is Ben. And I am also in turn supervising him. Yeah. It's reciprocal supervision. We are each other's boss. me is Ben and I am also in turn supervising him. Yeah. It's reciprocal supervision. We are each other's boss.

Ben, Dr. Renal is like for all of her performative emphases. She's really nice. She's like, I know you're nervous to be here, DAX, but check it out. Let's go have lunch tomorrow, like two old friends. What do you think lunch is like on planet Trill? I'm gonna have the chocolate banana if you got it. Does the ankylo sore come out and get a little pleato lettuce to chow down on?

I feel like all of the lunch items are things inside of other things, like pagan a blanket, egg in a basket, turduckin. like Pagan of Blanket, Agen of Basket, Turducan. Claim Chowder in a loaf of sourdough. Hahaha. Chicken cordon blue.

Hahaha. The prognosis here is that like, you're gonna be good. Like we, you know, we can administer some pretty, pretty like, reasonable treatment, and you're gonna be good. Like we you know we can administer some pretty like reasonable treatment and you're gonna be fine and and so they all like head back to the define and Bashir is like hey like uh go back to your quarters and take it easy. Oh boy oh boy oh. Head back to those quarters take it easy and Dax is once again subjected to a hallway nightmare. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Yeah, it was on the promenade before now. It's in the hallway on the defiant when the data It's in the hallway all the time

You know the best nightmare that Star Trek ever did was the whole like eyes in the dark nightmare Where the entire crew was going crazy and yeah, and Dr. Beverly was in the morgue and all the bodies set up That's the best nightmare Definitely some valences to that episode here. Yeah, but I mean, it's scary without ever being scared. It's scary at Jason. It's like the way a realtor would sell it to you as being scary. Great terror appeal. repeal. We get the introduction of like some some nice trill backstory which is like on the trill home world they have milky pools full of angular stores. Yeah. And they like that.

Star Trek caves could have so many milky pools in them. Like a, like a coy pond. They keep the, they keep these akylosors in there. And they like swim around and zap each other. And there's like a pool boy there. And the pool boys are known as guardians. Right. And they're kind of like, they're kind of like socially different. In the way that a pool boy probably is, right?

Right, they're super fuckable and aloof. And... Ben, do your parents in law have a pool boy or do they clean their own pool? I think they probably have like a service that comes around, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, like has my father-in-law bent my ear

at length about the pool filter that he had brought in to replace their previous pool filter and the regulations changed. And so now they have to have this kind, but previously they had a different kind. Yes. Do I know what the pool maintenance regime looks like? No. We are rapidly coming to the close of the second third of the power arrow. 36 shots in. The second trimester

if you will. If you're drinking along with us at 36 shots, I feel pretty hammered at this point. And what weird is like I haven't had that much beer, it's gotta be the pace of beer, right? That's the thing. I'm into can five, so. Yeah, it's the pace, it's the pace. Three bottles are done, like, yeah. The angular source communicate with each other

using warflightening, Do you like to see? Nice to see that. And this attendant guy is very tuned into the symbiote. He sees Dax in Jetsia before she's even talked to him. You're Dax. He's that weird guy with a coworker who's pregnant that just reaches out and touches the belly. Something's wrong.

Another real creepy move that this episode does without like being aware of how creepy it is. Like a mayi would be nice, Timor. Give me a fucking break. That is not good. But he seems to believe that the problem that Judd Dia's facing is not the simple medical fix that everybody else is writing for, and that knowledge changes the way they are interacting with this

problem in a big way. It's weird how there's like real medical science above ground happening, and I don't know whether this is intentional or not, but like you've got the scientists in the lab coats upstairs and then you've got like the homeopathics in the caves hanging out in the Star Trek cave. Yeah They like they don't diametrically oppose these two things, but I couldn't help it but not see that like Like there's the there's a sort of not see that. Like, like, there's the sort of spiritualist version that that Teymor writes for, and then there's the version above

ground. Yeah. Where Dr. Reynal lives. Because Teymor is like, what's the sunshine? Like, I haven't been up there in forever. Like, he actually makes the case that like, he lives in the caves. So they figure out like they're able to ascertain who the composer is of this music that stuck in Dax's head. Yeah, they like this episode is another Star Trek like pre-saging a technology, right? They they're trying to sassam the song that she's been playing. Right. And they come up with a name. They come up with a composer and it's Jorin Balar. He's one of the greats, right?

Love that guy's stuff. Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. On the defiant, Dax and Bashir and Cisco are like looking at file photos. And as soon as Jorin Balar's picture pops up, Dax has a little bit of a seizure, and the seizure brings on a hallucination. And in the hallucination,

she sees a dude getting an ice pick to the dome. That's not good. Pretty graphic scene. And like this is the pivot in the episode that raises the stakes. Like there's now a deadline here in 48 hours if they can't get taxes labs down to acceptable levels. She dead and they're gonna have to take the ankylo sore out of her

and stick it into someone else. I feel like the medical profession gets away with something that... Oh, I had a phone over. Oh no. I'm so glad I have this towel. I feel like the medical profession gets away with something that no other professions enjoy which is that like when you when you get something wrong it's not like let's get it right and we are not going to pay you any more

until you do like if if you or I finished a video for a client and turned it in and they were like, this is not what we asked for. You know. That's why it's so crucial to like step-by-step that shit. Like you wanna make your expectations super clear on both sides. Right, that's why like contracting is the most important

part of the process in a lot of ways. Yeah. So, like, what this lady has been writing for? The lady who leaves the room? With the Leah Brahms haircut. Yeah, Raynall. Yeah, she's been saying like, no, yeah, we'll just give you some pills and we'll get lunch tomorrow and call me in the morning.

Cisco and Bishir aren't necessarily believing in her form of medicine, so they go down and visit Timor, down in the morning. Cisco and Bixir aren't necessarily believing in her form of medicine, so they go down and visit Timor, down by the pool. And like, they do the same thing that they do earlier in the episode, which is like, Cisco and Bixir, when Cisco and Bixir talked about how much they love DAX, and like how crucial she is to things, even though she's barely been in any episodes.

There's a moment here where they're like, wow, Timor's acting pretty weird. Timor's always acted weird. Like, there's not enough range in Timor's performance to have demonstrated this, so instead, after Timor leaves the scene, Bashir and Cisco are like, wow, he's really freaked out about being asked questions about DAX.

Like, maybe there's something to this. Maybe there's a cover-up in progress. They jump to the, this is a cover-up situation pretty quickly. And it, like, the idea that a scandal is a brewing happens at like the 30 minute mark in this 45 minute episode. Yeah. The scale of this scandal is fucking huge. Yeah.

You know, like it is Russia tipped the scales on an election level huge and it kind of blinds sides you as a viewer. The math of this thing is that Joran Balar died on the same day as Tariah's decks, which was the decks that came before Kursan decks. And so this is the thing that has everyone's antenna erect. This is too much to be a coincidence. They start doing searches and they find this guy, Yolid Balar, who, you know, same last name as Jorin, and also graduated from a music school.

But like they can't find it. And also ready to take a facetime like whenever. Yeah, a classic old. That thing of our parents generation of if the phone is ringing it must be picked up like no matter what I'm struggling Dude this is this is getting exceedingly difficult. Yeah, I'm ready to be hung over tomorrow Yeah, I'm ready to be hung over it three in the afternoon Yeah, it's it's gonna be a bad day I'm gonna hang But he was in the initiate program. He was trying to be, he was trying to be joined. And I even, I even talked

to him on the phone one time and he said he was joined. But, you know, can't believe everything you hear on the phone. Anyways, I'm Yolib Alar. Yolib Alar out. This is the classic brother that's not too close to another brother, giving a little bit of information but not too much. He's very useful in this episode. He's the exposition brother that we all really need. My name is Yolid Exposition. I'm here to continue your investigation. My name is Yolid Exposition. I'm here to continue your investigation. So there's a scandal here, right? Like, and what is scandalous is that the aculosaur went from Tobias to Jorin to Kurson. And the commission altered the records they covered it up. There's an eighth host.

Yeah, and there's, and like something in DAX, like there's hormones there that have been covering up this phantom host. Maybe it's my whole band. That makes sense. And what's happening inside her mind is like, those things are wearing off. They're like suppressed memories

that are starting to like seep into her reality. Right. Every time she's been in a hallway and it's gone badly, it's been because of that. And like, the scandal is not just that there was a clerical error and the DAX got put in the wrong belly. It's that like almost anybody, like half of everybody on planet Trill

could have an angliosaur, angiosaur? Angiosaur. I don't even remember which it is. This is a fucking scandal because like, it turns out that angiosaur is a commodity. We are commodities brokers, William. And they have been suppressing the number of people

that can have them inside them. And if there's those milky pools that are just rotten with ankylo sores, just give them out, right? Sounds to me like you guys are couple of bookies. Like you can't have a society where people are fishing at those milky pools. You can't have it.

Does everybody want one? Or do just some people want one? I think that's the weird, unspoken part of this episode is like, so Cisco threatens Dr. Reynall with going public with the news if she dies, like using like, Dax's life as a bargaining chip. Because the doctor has, like Dr. Reynall has known the entire time what the real problem is, which is that these suppressed memories, like the memories were suppressed and the records

were purged. And the fact that the memories are seeping out means that the Jetsia host is going to die and they're going to replace Jetsia, you know, put Dax into somebody else. She is working really hard to maintain the secret that Dax was in a loser for a little while and it worked. This is classic telling instead of showing though, because Raynaul predicts a future where the devaluation of the Aculosaurus makes it so that like there's a black market and it's gross and like half the planet can have them if they want them, and it totally upends the whole society.

But the thing is, in Star Trek, we're never made to believe that this is so great to have one outside of a very small sample size. It seems weird to like, like it's very hard for me to imagine really wanting something that like kind of erases my identity. Right. Like give me a little more of that backstory.

Like why is this so great? I don't know, but I want to know, you know? Right, I wish they had like dug into that just a little bit more. For those of you keeping track at home we are now into the final 10 minutes of this nightmare or six-per-per-per-per. I cannot believe that. Oh my god. I think... I think we have to keep drinking through the end of this.

We have to drink to the end of the episode, don't we? Shit, Dodd. That's just what I'm saying. To be quite honest about it, that is an apparel. I'm fucking an apparel. Mr. Bucket, I have to refer to Bertrand and state school. I don't use the bucket anymore. Tell Dr. Torven to prepare the new host for surgery. Jetsia is on the slab.

We'll begin transferring the symbion to 15 minutes. Tell Dr. Torven to get a cup of wrapped a genome. He won't be needed. Cisco is saying to the doctor, lady, the choice is yours. You can save your dear's life, or I can release the information about what happened to the deximbian. And she is surprisingly senior enough to be able to make that choice. Ah! Ah! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

I'm dying here. This is not good. This'm close to death. This is not good for anyone If you're still sticking around I Want to this is our final this is our final captain's log This feels like an admiral Hansen type plan here that we've done find this I go well into rise We're attempting to withdraw on regroup what What fools we were to make the board game with this as the hundredth square. What hubris we had to think that we wouldn't arrive here someday. This was our Wolf 359 bend. We are the burning shells of starships floating in space right now. Ben when you introduce the idea of a milky pool of angular sores, you must eventually pay

that off with a main cast character, dunking herself and said pool. Yeah, you want to put that character in a shift and have her descend into that pool. You want to have her purify herself in the waters of Lake Enkyloosor. And so she does where she gets zapped by the other Enkyloosor's in those pools in the water. It's not even worth lightning anymore, man. It's fucking Jetsia lightning. And another hallucination happens. It's Jorin. It's Jorin in the pool too, and it's gonna be okay.

Let's hug it out, Jorin. Let's get wet. Let's do it. I never meant to call you when you're my roller. This is one of those scenes like as a professional video man whenever you have talent get wet. It is a big fucking deal to drive them again. So like I'm trying to imagine like how many takes they had here. Yeah, my I have a dear friend who is in the castuming union in New York. And she and I watched,

what's that Jeremy Ritter movie where he's a bomb technician? Yeah, the one where he's diffusing bombs. Yeah. The bomb diffuser. Yeah, that's what it's called. I should be professionally tidally movies. The diffuser.

The hurtlocker. There's a scene where you're doing it. I have a very specific set of skills. Skills that make me a nightmare for bombs that you make. I'm the diffuser. There's a scene in that movie where he's got like a bunch of blood on his very complicated uniform and he gets in the shower in his clothing and washes the blood off. And she was like, Jesus fucking Christ.

Like, nightmare level costuming challenge because he probably needs seven of that. Yeah. Just to be safe for like how many takes they might want to do. Because it's like the, you know, the emotional climax of the movie and also like, from a costume standpoint, like the most complicated thing,

because like you have to get the goo infused into the fabric in the same way seven times. Right. Adam, we only have four shots left, and I feel like I might die, dude. Jadzee of Dax is gonna be okay, because she had the hallucination. She had a

Wharf lightning shot at her belly and she's back on the station. There's a little bit of a time jump here a little Epilogue where Cisco comes to check in on her and she's like what's wrong with you the doctor just checked on me too I think she deserves some time off after this She seems reluctant to take that time. She tells Cisco that I'll be at work in the morning. And then she steps up to her Cassio keyboard. In an attempt, I think, to power grab some interlight vibes. And I don't like it. You think that it's a cynical interlite ploy on the part of the writers. I don't think that's good at all.

Maybe she's just playing the demo this time. Did you like this episode, Ben? I medium liked it. I think that Terry Ferrell really does a lot in this episode. And I wish the camera had cared, you know, like I wish it, I wish they had made the episode about her that she deserves because she said she's so talented, she can access, like there are scenes in this where she changes like the flush of her face in a second because she's accessing a deep emotion and putting it on display for us and that's like such a magic trick.

Yeah. And instead the camera is like panning across her boobs the entire time. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think and believe Terry Farrell is a great actor. And for an episode about DAX, it's really more of a medical procedural, where it's about Bichir and Cisco, like doing the detective work about her. Yeah. And that's, that's too bad.

Like I wish it was a real DAX episode, but it's not. It really feels like a, a Troy episode where Marina sort of saw what Troy is going through and really rose to the challenge of displaying that yeah and Generally speaking the episode is so preoccupied with what the male cast members think about it that it is like Distracted from that. Yeah. Yeah, I, there are a lot of interesting kernels here, but it, like they aren't fully realized. I mean, I think the best part of this episode

is the whole, like, ankylosaur backstory, the pools and the swimmers and the coy, and like, all that stuff is great. We finally get to see that. But yeah, I mean I Really dislike being told that Dax is important without being shown the way that she is Yeah, and this was a missed opportunity in that way. Well Adam. We are 30 seconds from our final shot here. Oh my god How do you feel about what we just did?

I here. Oh my god. How do you feel about what we just did? I feel like this I hope this is confirmed later though I shouldn't ever read the reviews of this episode. I feel like this turned out better than I thought it would be. I'm grateful that it was a daylight show instead of something we tried to do late at night, like something we were ashamed of. Which we serve. Bottom's up, dude. Morning, morning, morning, Morning, Steve, sweet, Morning, morning,

Steve, here, buddy, Morning, stop, have a tie. I am so full. I'm like the feeling is full, more than drunk, but it's almost equal It's a yeah full edges drunk out just barely Do you need a break before we do p1's? I do not do you now? I'm good. Let's let's go. Let's get through it I'm gonna get into it and I'm actually gonna keep doing shots because I still have open beers here Yeah, I guess I guess

Fuck yeah, if you're gonna be dumb. Yeah, if you're going to be dumb, why don't you be all the way dumb? Like, oh, God. I that, that, that, oh, you hear how foamy that burp was. I've been struggling this entire time. Ben, I reached for a keyboard that wasn't there. Because past Adam moved the keyboard responsibly. Past Adam is present Adam's only advocate at this point. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on. supplement on.

supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we've got a couple of priority one messages in the hopper today. The first is of a commercial nature. Goes like this.

Classically awful is a podcast about Blake's Seventh. The sometimes amazing, sometimes a little bit embarrassing, 1970s, British sci-fi television show. Largely inspired in its format by Greatest Gen, Classically Awful is run by two nerdy sisters. We like to pepper their recaps with a sprinkling of obscure Australian cultural references and the occasional dick joke for extra flavor. Come join in our fun! Go to classicallyoffel.com or find us in iTunes and subscribe.

These are OG friends of DeSoto here. We got Megan and Imogen. Yeah, the friends of DeSoto and his status cannot be overstated with, and Imogen. Yeah, the friends of Disodonus status cannot be overstated with Megan and Imogen, and the idea that they are casting pod together is pretty rad. I love, I love the idea that Dick jokes provide flavor to their episodes, and I love the idea of letting a nice Australian cultural reference go right over my head. I personally am not familiar with this show, but while I am familiar with their hosts and I would encourage anyone than anything is for Megan and Imogen, much like our friend in Japan, to maybe uh, maybe scout out a place we could do a live-creative stancho. I've always wanted to go to Australia. I don't do a show there at a loss.

Let's do a show there. I am drunk enough to be convinced of this. I think we can agree that the best thing that has ever happened to us related to this show are the myriad friends of DeSoto that we've made. We've got so many friends now and it's a great feeling. I never had any friends before. The second best thing is the idea of going out on tour and seeing different parts of the country and meeting so many of them in person, that's great. That's what I love.

The third best thing could potentially be foreign travel, going to Europe, going to Japan, going to Australia. I think that is the next level for Greatest Gen. We need the London Tokyo Melbourne Greatest Gen Tour to happen. I'm so ready to do that. What I would love to do is make that its own leg of the tour. Like the suicide. It's a jet-like suicide leg.

God. Yeah, the we don't care about ourselves at all tour. That sounds great. I want to do that that. I wanna do that so bad. I wanna see those places! Yeah. Fuckin' me! Ben our second priority one message. Hahaha!

Is from Admiral Cook aka Amy Breake. It is for hailing all captains in rocking fleet JL pipes and crew. The message goes like this, you're the funniest and friendliest bunch of hooligans in the galaxy! With rampant scarf expenditure, we've romped around the galaxy, built a flared starbase, and learned about each other's home countries. Sorry. We're always being on the night shift because I'm in the upside down.

Oh! And hey! Captain to the X Bridge. You're fully disfined, I guess. Wow! That's another southern hemisphere friend of Dissotto, it sounds like. Yeah. Sounds that way.

I don't know if we can, it might be a New Zealand. And I know that New Zealand and Australia folks really present being confused with each other. Yeah, I would never do that. I would wanna speculate, but boy, what are we doing not going to Australia? It's basically the question I wanna ask. God, I wanna go there so bad.

Is there an Australia podcast festival? I'm going to limit right now. You know, our friend suggestion check from the stuff you should know podcast were invited to our Atlanta show, which is where they live. And they were like, yeah, we'd love to come. And then they were like, hey, actually actually we can't come because we're too busy going to Australia to do live shows of our own and It just made me intensely jealous You know more than anything else

Yeah, it's not for lack of interest We just need to be invited we're like a bunch of tracks on this show. Yeah, invite us to your thing. Yeah, let the right one in. And by right one, I mean the wrong podcast. What else do we do on this show? I don't even remember. Well, if we do at this point. Well, if you would like to invite us to read a message of either If you would like to invite us to read a message of either commercial or personal nature, you can go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo tron and for the low low rate of $100 or the

slightly Higher than lower rate of $200 you can have that message read on this awesome show with tens and tens and tens and tens and tens of thousands of people. So many people listen to this show, and this is an embarrassment what we've done here. Yeah. I feel like we've showed our whole ass to everyone who listens. I would anticipate a pretty big drop in listenership after this this and that makes me sad. Yeah, but go do that and uh... Go support the show you love! We'll get into the next segment when I remember what it is.

Support us in our dumb assery. A greatest-gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre- and post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, let's make a pretty great name for a tour. Let's do it. The Share Your Embarrassment Tour is coming in August 2023 and we've got a bunch of dates

in a lot of great places. Go to GreatestGenTour.com to get more info. That's GreatestGenTour.com for dates and ticketing information for the share your embarrassment tour. I'm Jordan Morris and I'm Jesse Thorne. On Jordan Jesse Go, we make pure delightful nonsense. We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We get stupid with Judy Greer. My friend Molly and I call it having the spaceweards. Pat Naswald. Could I get a ball-rock burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you.

And Kumail Nanjiani. I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use. Come get stupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look, your podcast apps are already open. Just pull it out. Give Jordan Jesse Goatry. Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead.

Whoa, rice. Hey, hey, oh, I'm glad I found you a lion. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and, boy, what a lion. These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm here and we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art.

It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. Oh, we're actually, we're podcasters. Yes, probably. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two. What do you think?

Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun and.org. What's that, Ben? Did you find yourself a... Drunk Shemoda? DRAG Shemoda! Drunk Shemoda! Yeah! I think this Shemoda was easy to find. And... And...

It's Cisco. And here's why... Cisco threatens to upend the entire Tril culture... To save Dax's life. Like, all of it. He is willing... To say Jazeez culture to save Dax's life. Like all of it, he is willing. The same Jadzi is life, Dax is fine. Yeah, to save Jadzi is life. Like he's willing to ruin an entire world for this.

And I wonder, like, it's a real Kirk level move, right? Like, it feels like- It feels like- It feels like the Prime Directive has never been discussed on DS9 up until now, and this might be a good moment for Bishir to be like, like I know we all love Jadziya Dax, but like I just need to say, that's sort of a lot of stake here. So I thought that was great. Like Cisco's willingness to destroy a world for one person. That's a, that's a chaos agency move right

there. So. But the Trill Homeworld is part of the federation, right? Like, which makes it not subject to the prime directive. Yeah, I totally understand that. But like, I feel like once you're in the federation, like that should make you more subject to it. Like once you join, does that mean that the rules don't apply? I don't think so. It's pretty dirty pool, Cisco.

What have I you been? Who's your drunk Samota? My drunk Samota is the great Odo. I loved the choices that are in the Obersenwa made in the performance of Odo's one scene in this episode. We cannot trust him, with our big goods. He cannot make Vienn was re, it's the way we like him.

It does not know how to make a laminated pastry. He does not even know how to whip. It does not even know how to whip. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, is so fun. And I think he's underused in that regard. He's in virgin at everything. I loved how loving the portrayal of that was. I loved how Kira thought it was so cute. I loved how everybody was like down to just let him whisk wrong. You know, I treasure that moment. Yeah, that's a good moment. Yeah, that's a good moment, dude. I just had a little bit of a blurf there. Ben, we're at square 100 of the game. Does the game continue?

What do we have coming up on the next episode and how are we going to watch it? Like I think we're starting at one, right? Yeah, here's here's here's what I will say by the time this episode comes out We may have changed a couple of the Quarx bars to other things just so that we're not killing ourselves Yeah, and no one wants too much at this obviously neither do we No, we've learned a valuable lesson today. The next episode is season three, episode five.

Second skin. Kira is surprised when she sees records indicating that she was incarcerated at L.M. Spur, a Cardassian prison 10 years ago. Oh, I'm ready for another Kira episode, by the way. Feels like it's been a while. Do you want to hear how Amazon describes this episode? Yes.

Kira is kidnapped by the Cardassians, who try to convince her that she is really one of their people. Oh, that's not going to go well. God damn, those couldn't be more dissibular as descriptions. I am relieved that we can do regular pod next time. I am relieved that we didn't schedule two records today. This is nightmare. because what I want to do right now is first go pee and second fuck around on PlayStation for the rest of the day. That sounds nice. Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. Hey Adam, here's something that we should talk about. There is a game on PlayStation, where you can pretend to be in the bridge crew of a Starfleet ship. I'm familiar.

And furthermore, there is a modification for this game or some kind of downloadable content that lets you be in the bridge crew of the D, the enterprise D, the entrepreneur. You can be in the tip of the D, the enterprise D, the entrepreneur. You can be in the tip of the D, is that what you're saying? Yeah, we gotta do something with this man. Yeah, I agree.

We should. We can't just not, we can't just not virtual reality into the bridge of the D. We can't have a D in that play with it. Yeah, like what does that look like though? Is the question. I think it looks like us playing with our Ds together. Yeah.

We gotta touch the tips. We'll figure that out. Yeah. I believe it. Ben, we have so many people to thank for putting up with our bullshit. We've got the myriad friends of DeSoto out there who have come to our live shows. They're on islands all over the world.

They're on Great Britain. They're on the many islands of Japan. They're on the continent-sized island of Australia. Every time I think who the hell would want to see us in person, I am greeted by an explosive audience of Friends of Disotto. It feels so great when they come to our live shows. More live shows ahead at at greatestgencon.com. Come and see us.

A lot of shows are selling out. Most shows are selling out, Ben. If you're on the island of Canada, there's basically a handful of tickets left for the three Canada shows we're doing this year. Yeah. We got Toronto and Edmund and still on sale. And Kuver's already sold out,

but I am really excited for that whole leg of the tour. Yeah, we love touring in Canada. We love their food and drink and fried chicken. Come and see us. for that whole leg of the tour. Yeah, yeah, we love touring in Canada, we love, we love their food and drink and fried chicken. Come and see us. Yeah. It won't be weird, I promise. Gotta thank Adam Ragusia for making the music

that is based on the music of Dark Materia. He also makes all of our interstitial music. All of our live touring show music is made by Adam Ragusio as well. Yeah, we're working on a big cool project with the goose, and I'm really excited for when we get to announce it. He came to our Atlanta show. I met him for the first time in person. Yeah. I made him for the first time in person when he stayed at my house one time.

Great decision by you. Yeah, good to see you. You're very permissive about who stays at my house one time. Great decision by you. Yeah, you're very permissive about who stays at your house. Yeah. So keep that in mind when you're greeting Ben after the show. Yeah, yeah, I can talk my wife into almost anything. You have a lifestyle that includes people staying at your home. It's fun. Yeah. A support for the show comes from Maximumofund.org slash Donate. They keep us thick with Mexican loggers and also with the ability to go out on tour and

keep us sustained the entire year through. I think it's no secret that Ben and I have pivoted out of professional video work and into non-professional podcast hosting. Yeah, and by maximumfund.org slash donate, we mean you. Like if you're listening to this and you've gotten to this part of this podcast episode,

if you can count in into what has happened here today, go to max1pland.org slash donate and kick in, you know, five bucks a month. So with that, we'll be back at you next time with another great episode, great and sober, by the way, episode of Star Trek, the Eupspace 9, and another episode of the greatest generation. Where we, I would imagine, we hypothesize

how we escape from a prison situation. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop.

Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop.

Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it stop. Make it do a shout with me while we hit stop. Okay, I'm gonna, I have, I have like 80% of a can of beer here. I'm gonna chug it while we hit stop, okay. Ooh.

Alright, let's do it. Alright. Oh, fuck, I spilled on myself. I actually want to throw up after this. I feel like that would save my day if I did. It might be the right choice at this point. I don't know. Maximumfund.org.

Comedy and culture. Artists-owned. Listen or supported.