The Greatest Generation - Biff Yeager’s Regional Ice Complex (VOY S6E2)

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
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Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Hey, it's Adam here with a quick message about the episode you're about to hear and some fun news we announced on the show that, well, actually ended up happening. Me and Ben and Wendy and Bill had all planned to go to the Rochester, New York, intergalacticon, famously held at Bill Gray's regional iceplex.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And we were hoping it was going to end up as one of those fun projects we could put out there and afford to do thanks to your support. But Biff canceled his appearance on Twitter due to some personal matters. And it's not clear to us whether or not he did that based on our plans to meet him. But if you caught wind of our plan before the cancellation and made travel plans of your own, yeah, we're in the same boat. I'm changing a bunch of flights and canceling some hotel rooms. And all the excitement you hear in today's episode, it all went to shit, and the best laid plans,
Starting point is 00:03:11 etc, etc. Hope to see you in Brooklyn at the Bellhouse show this Saturday. And enjoy hearing our innocent happiness on today's show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your back shot, come loose! I'm Captain Captain Brinjen where the U.S. is boarded. Captain Captain Captain Captain Brinjen where the U.S. is boarded. Do it Captain the Captain! Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed
Starting point is 00:03:44 about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. Get some exciting travel coming up, buddy. Oh, yeah. I have some unexciting travel coming up tomorrow morning. I got the worst text you can get from an airline. Did I tell you this?
Starting point is 00:04:00 You alluded to it, and then we were in like a zoom waiting room getting ready for a meeting to start and so I didn't get the full story. We're leaving in the morning to go to New York City to visit some close friends of ours. So excited to get out of town to go to New York. Got the upgrade. Hell yeah. Which we were excited about, the status upgrade until this morning. We're the, we had already checked in. We're checked in ready to go. Airline texts us. Hey, had to switch planes
Starting point is 00:04:34 on you. Sorry. That status upgrade we gave you. Not a thing anymore. Oh, getting the back, buddy. We're going flying. No upgraded all, are you on the way in the rear with the gear? We're in the back back. Yeah, you're not even in the middle back. We're in the middle back, but... Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Could have been in the front front.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Man, there was a trip that I had for work to Dakar and my wife came along because she wanted to go to Senegal and it was LA to New York to Dakar and we got on the LA flight and got the big bump to first class and we're like yeah whoo first class first class and then then we got ground-alayed for three hours, forcing us to miss our connection and our luggage to get lost in the connection. So we show like 18 hours later than we were expecting to at our final destination with no clothes to change it to.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And then- That's how you want it. That feeling of the like classy upgrade, just like all of the benefits of that evaporating from us. Yeah, yeah, that's brutal. Yeah, man, I'm sorry about that. I'm going with the flow. This is my birthday trip.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It's going to be chill as hell. It is. It's going to be a good time, no matter what. Yeah, I wish I could have come on this trip with you to celebrate your big day. I know I should have invited you. You did I didn't say anything in response. So it goes with us. Yeah, but but then you're gonna turn right back around and go back to New York. Sure am. So we've talked I think I think by now people will have heard about the re-encounter at far point.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I hope so. The big live show we're doing at the Bell House, but what may not have been alluded to before. Should I say what the re-encounter at far point is? Do people not know? Let's start with that. So yeah, like we've always wanted to give the modern greatest gen treatment to Encounter at Farpoint. I remember our first episode of this show
Starting point is 00:06:53 as being maybe 25 minutes long and it's about a full two-hour, double episode of Star Trek. Yeah, and either of us have, have dug back into that file, to actually know the answer to that question. Yeah, we should probably just go through it and like red line it, just like, okay, we can't do any of this material, you know, I remember so little of it, I am excited to do it all over again.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And that is the reason for the show. Yeah, we're going to do a live greatest-gen show. It's not going to be like a touring show. It's not going to be like the tours we've done about the movies. We're doing a live podcast about encounter at far point. Yeah. Where we're going to do it right this time. We're going to do it right, and it's exclusive, you know, if you don't see it, you don't
Starting point is 00:07:40 see it. If it's good enough, we should just replace the version that's online right now. We should murder that first version. You know, I had a professor in film school that said editing was all about killing your babies. You'll always have that shot that you just love how it came out. Yeah. And you're trying to force it into the edit and it's making the piece worse. So you're you're saying we could only do this sort of thing in New York. There are some places we could do this live show
Starting point is 00:08:12 where legally we'd be prevented from doing that. Yeah, we were invited to do it in Nashville, couldn't do it there. But before we do that, we're going on another little mission that is kind of an experiment for us as well. We're going to a regional, not even a Star Trek convention. It's just like a sci-fi convention in Rochester, New York, at which Biff Yeager will be making an appearance.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's right, Ben. We are going to intergalacticon, which is a four-day science fiction convention at Bill Grey's regional iceplex in Rochester, New York. It's going to be amazing. The reason this popped up on our radar was the appearance of someone who's very special to the show. Yeah. We're going to try and get ourselves a natural yager.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I thought it'd be kind of fun to take a biffiega trading card and get him to sign it again. Yeah, that is what we should do. I have a stack of biffieggers, and I'm gonna get him double signed. Man, this will make the yager bubble even crazier because we're forking the supply of Yagers, right? You know, like there'll be like double signed Yagers, which are rare, but also the single signed
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yagers will become more rare because so much of the supply of single Yagers is becoming rare. It's very true. We're both so excited to be meeting Biff Yager for the first time in person. We've had a number of positive interactions with him online, looking forward to sitting down with him. And Ben, both of these projects, I would say, are due to the support we received during the Max Fund Drive. We were talking about new and interesting projects to do. These were two of them that were on our list.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I'm really excited about it. I don't really know what... Like the trip to Intergalactic Hun is very much an open-ended thing. I hope we get a chance to ask him some questions on microphone, who knows. At the very least, I love to shake the man's hand because he's been the source of so much joy for us and the friends of DeSato over the years. That's our way. Under promise, over deliver. That's the greatest gen promise. But this works out nicely for our friends of DeSato
Starting point is 00:10:34 and the northeastern part of the country because if you live in New York state or in virons, you could potentially hit up this strange sci-fi fantasy convention, hang out with us and Biff Yeager. you could potentially hit up this strange sci-fi fantasy convention. Yeah. Hang out with us and Biff Yeager. And then the very next day, you see this re-encounter at far point at the bellhouse.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Man, that would be a pretty exciting weekend of it all. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm also going to be seeing some family and Philly the weekend before us all be popping around the tri-state area a little bit. I can hear the friends of DeSoto screaming at their car stereos right now. When? When is this? June 2nd.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We'll be at Bill Gray's Regional Iceplex in Rochester, New York. And then the very next day on Saturday, June 3rd, we'll be at the Bellhouse doing re-encounter at far point. I'm pumped. I love that it's not the Bill Gray regional iceplex It's bill it's like the possessive Bill Gray's I love it It's awesome. They should rename it the biffie acre regional iceplex though if I have my way There are a number of guests at this thing given the very rare appearance sticker
Starting point is 00:11:47 So pretty excited to meet if Jager in person. Yeah, let's see. I'm gonna cruise through the guests and see who else We got a JG Hertzler Who are the rest of our Star Trek Inflicts are glad to come got some some deep cuts, huh? Yeah Yeah, a lot of them. We've got Randy James at his first ever convention. Wow. He, of course, got all the Star Trek series.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Deep Space Nine, next generation. He was in Star Trek first contact. You know, Randy James just from looking at him. Man, this is going to be great. Do you think JG Hertzler appears with an eye patch? We got a Tim Russ. Whoa. Tim Russ is going to be there. That's great. Rare New York appearance for Tim Russ. I couldn't be more excited. Yeah. This is going to be great. We are going to have so much fun and Rochester. Hope all the FODs can make it there to make it super extra fun at Bill Gray's Regional Iceplex.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Graphic design on these on these posters is absolutely incredible. I love it. incredibly incredible. I love it. I'm so excited about this. This is exactly the sort of convention that I grew up going to. The tiny convention. Yeah, yeah. The convention where much of the imagery on the front page of the website is clearly done in MS Paint. Yeah. Like, this fucking rules. It really does. It's going to be a great time. Rochester a place I've never been to before.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So looking forward to eating and drinking all of the delicacies of a Rochester New York. Oh yeah, is Rochester garbage plate country? Is it? Is it with garbage plates like an upstate New York delicacy, right? Oh, I don't know. I love a garbage plate though. Let's see. Yeah, the Rochester garbage plate.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Oh, that sounds great. Yeah, it's like a bunch of like potatoes and shit on a plate under melty cheese. Well, we gotta eat, Ben. I know we're gonna be there getting a garbage plate before we head out. It's going to be a real barnstorm. We're going to be in there the morning of and then out the evening of. Yeah, we should probably, we're trying to sell tickets to reencounter at far point and it's now become like, see Ben and Adam after having consumed garbage plate attempts to struggle through a
Starting point is 00:14:25 med-nate performance. I'm excited for Re-encounter at far point. Our touring shows are different from a greatest-john show, and this is, I think, going to be a more pure expression of the greatest-john concept. Yeah. I mean, and in that way, I am sort of resentful that you talked me into doing it. That is most definitely how it went. Well, Adam, we may or may not survive this upcoming barnstorm in New York State. But certain people survive a certain board
Starting point is 00:15:08 sphere crash in today's episode. Do you want to get into it? Let's do that right away, Ben. It's Star Trek Voyager Season 6 episode 2. Survival instinct. Revert course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. One of only two episodes written by Ronald D. Moore. Yeah. This is usually a credited director, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We called open on an escape sphere, crashing under the surface of a planet. Then it's established here canonically that Borg's cubes, life rafts are always spheres, right? I think so, yeah. Or is this just a little scout ship? I mean, I'm guessing it's an escape raft, yeah. Crash is on like a Dagobah class planet, very wet, lots of dangling vines and mist everywhere.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I'm sure it's perfectly safe for droids. There's always one person in the life raft that like designates themselves as the leader. Right. And in this one, it's Seven of Nine, from Jump, which doesn't quite match up with the numbers that the other in her group ascribe to, right? Like seven is actually the leader number.
Starting point is 00:16:34 It's not like one of nine would be the leader. Right, because we, one of these guys is the primary adjunct, and another is the secondary adjunct. She's the tertiary adjunct and yet she's the one calling the shots around here. Yeah. Yeah. She's giving out the ketchup packets like she's doing all the rationing of the survival food that they have. I love that as far as food goes, it's a dead drone. It's a dead drone. And they drag this guy with them to use how they will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 We also learn that their link to the collective is severed, so they've got to just talk to each other, which is not ideal for drones, not the way drones like to roll. The worst part of any marooning, I think, having to talk to each other. I mean, it was probably boring as hell in the life raft before they even crashed here, right? God, unwind this episode a week before. Like, give me that story. How long have they been floating before crashing into this planet? Yeah, like, are they like farting up the sphere? Does the sphere have the same facilities?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Can they shower? Yeah. Or are they just like already bedrackled to hell? It's hard to tell with a drone. I don't think there is any showering on a board ship. I mean, there are enough plastic bags to wrap around all of the implants either, right? Imagine the line to the plastic before getting to the shower. That's why they don't have showers. Yeah, just brutal.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And it's also like, it's really hard to slip those adidas slide sandals over your Borg feet because you've got so much like machinery on there. Yeah, it's a lot. So everybody winds up getting bored foot fungus. You'll never make it to the big fungus on your shower shoe. After the theme, Janeway's log tells us that Voyager is docked at the Marconian Space dock and the crew is psyched to have some shore leave.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It feels like it's been a while. I mean, the Marconians are legendary for their almonds. Right. Their space station looks pretty good too. Delicious. This absolutely kills Tufak in the way that is so obvious. Like, as we tour around the ship and see the sheer quantity of people on board stuffed into corridors at any given point, I don't know how Tuvac is handling this at all. I would be fully melting down if I were him.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Tuvac's like thrown all the furniture out of his quarters and just has a candle in there and that's like all he can do is just like focus on candle. All he can do is just like focus on candle. Oh man, just dying. To give Chico Tei some real fun physical comedy to do, bringing this crazy racket thing onto the bridge, which is really like, they really went promenade of deep space nine level crowded with the number of weird aliens just walking around and they can just show themselves onto the bridge and look around and touch anything. Is this a DaVinci created machine? It looked like a butt-slapping machine of a DaVinci design, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:59 It really does look like you could slap significant numbers of butts simultaneously using this device. We'll put it down anywhere. So, they've really thrown the doors open and that means a flood of captains' trinkets are making their way towards Janeway's office. A lot of physical comedy with Janeway as well. She's working with some kind of crazy flower arrangement. There's leaves in her hair and dangling off our uniform and stuff. One of the best practical effects is sentient plant.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Because all you have to do is have someone out of frame sort of waggle the pot. And it looks like that thing's going for you. Yeah, it's on you. You put a little bit of mud or crud on Janeway's forehead. It looks like it's grabbing at that face. Yeah. Get some water wipe off that crud. Terrifying.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So two Vox bin, NABBIN, minor, Crooks, all morning. He's prepared a three-page report on all the little lightweight crimes that have been committed. And this episode's starting off super light, super fun, little cold open here. He's on the record as being anti-open ship policy. And Chico Te and Janeway hear that. Yeah. But also, they're like, come on, like we've met so many racists over the years.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Let's enjoy these non-racists. racist over the years. Let's enjoy these non-racists. Let's just bask in the warmth of a crowd of non-racists tracking their fucking mud through every corridor. Adam is like, I would prefer the racists. No clean racist over dirty No. Clean racist over dirty non-racist any day of the week. No. Do you think Chico Te sort of sees what this plant's doing with Janeway and is going like, oh, she's not into the hair tugging
Starting point is 00:22:02 but she's not into the hair tugging. but she's not into the hair tugging. He's just filing that away for later in case something happens. Chico Tei is looking at Janeway being like pressed deeper into her seat behind the desk by this plant, having her hair tussled and maybe like a little, little forehead schmutz happening. Camera rolls down to his fist. Snaps a pencil.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Camera racks over to the butt paddling machine. Paddle comes down on a pencil, cracks it up. Mott of yours. In the ass lab, Naomi Wildman is hanging out with seven of nine and expressing great displeasure that seven is pushing their lunch 45 minutes. I don't know if you're allowed to do that because she's scanning the station instead of spending quality time with her young charge. Seven really needs some granola bars or candy or something.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, or like one of those, that toy that's in every pediatrician waiting room that's like the curly cues of wire with beads that you can run around them. Can you imagine the 24th century version of that? Go occupy yourself Naomi. I'm doing shit here. It sucks. Naomi really needs age appropriate friends. She doesn't have any. And so she seven's problem. Yeah. And seven's trying to do work, but Naomi eventually guilt her in the go into lunch. And we cut over to
Starting point is 00:23:39 Nielix's restaurant where the marsupial surprise has been a very popular dish among the visiting dignitaries. Yeah. We only had two kilos of couches to begin with and it's all bad. Now, how about some pizza, huh? I mean, once you eat it, there's actually two surprises. That's second what happens later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Seven is not loving the noisiness in the lunch room. Don't blame her at all. Can't concentrate on her meal or on the bowl of cum quats on the table. You know what the problem is, it's a bunch of asses at eye level in the mess hall. Yeah. I don't like that at all. And if this were any restaurant and you're seated at a table and there's a bunch of standards nearby,
Starting point is 00:24:28 this is why you get the barrier partition between the bar and the restaurant in places that have them, right? Right, and why if there are tables in the bar, they're often at a higher height and they have like stool chairs instead of chairs. Yeah, you don't want to let it. What you got here is a lot of asses in faces.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's disgusting. The human ass is an approximately two and a half to three feet in height, right where the human nose rests when a person is sitting in a normal chair. Really interesting bit of trivia here when Naomi does that thing that you're going to have to deal with pretty soon, Ben with DeRone, which is where she starts calling out races in public.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And this is deeply troubling to seven in this moment. And not for reasons that you might assume. Like it isn't that just that she's guessing races, she's doing species numbers like a Borgs would. Right, and seven is like, they only, your mom is totally fine with you yelling different races in public. She just doesn't want you to do it the way Borgs do.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Uh huh. Yeah. A dude comes through this crowd and God this guy. This guy, Lance or whose name we learn later, has got a face, a face that has seen some shit. Sure has Adam. He makes with a trapper keeper full of Borg's parts. And boy oh boy, is seven enthusiastic about what she's seeing in this trapper keeper. Yeah, this dude is a big part of Star Trek Enterprise, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Let's take this one step at a time. But I recognized him from a clear and present danger. Sure. He's like a parts dealer. This is an idea that's greatly expanded on in the Star Trek Picard universe. People selling aftermarket's Borgs parts. But these are particularly interesting to seven because they are parts of her.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You know what's nice nowadays is that you can bring in some Borgs parts, even old Borgs parts, and get yourself a new cell phone. Right. In a lot of places. Sure. It's a good development, I think. Yeah. So Lansor
Starting point is 00:27:06 approaches the table at the antique's road show with this chaperokiepper full of synaptic relays and he's like, okay, so I found this chaperokiepper in the attic of my aunt's old home and she says she got these from a traitor at Orondale 5. And they've just been up there collecting dust the whole time. I just want to know what they're worth. And seven's like, you know, I got goose bumps when I saw you walk in with these. And everybody on the other side of the folding table was really excited. I've conferred with some of my colleagues,
Starting point is 00:27:45 and we are ready to put an insurance replacement value of however much the captain is willing to pay you dollars. That's what a moneyless society is. It's amazing to be seven and go like, captain will pick that up for me. Yeah, yeah. Whatever you want. Mama Janeway holds the purse strings.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Just go tell her what we owe you. Yeah. It's a done deal. And this mysterious stranger walks away and starts communicating telepathically with someone in engineering and another person in a crowded corridor. You know, when you talk to someone about everything going according to plan.
Starting point is 00:28:29 In the same... It's never good. And the same breath is maybe penetrating ship security. Yeah. That's a bad sign. I was shocked that nobody had walked up to the lady and gone like, a bejorin out here in the Delta Quadrant. What's going on with you?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah. Can't mistake a bejorin out here in the Delta quadrant. What's going on with you? Yeah, can't mistake a bejorin. Yeah, that knows is very distinctive. Yeah. But anyways, yeah. Where's Naomi Wildman on that one? That's why they put the lady in a different part of the ship. So that Naomi wouldn't see her and say some horrible slur for
Starting point is 00:29:05 bejorans. Those people eat hosporat! Shut up Naomi, be quiet! Half of those people like pizza and the others hate pizza ovens so much that they hate pizza. What are you so angry about? I don't really know. We flash back to the planet of that crashed sphere. Yeah. And the borgs that survived that crash are eating the dead body. So I'd let's eat a piece of this white guy. Let's get him.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I mean, they're taking parts off of it. Oh, and this is, I mean, if that wasn't troubling, one of them is using a personal pronoun that is really troubling to the rest of the group. Yeah, and it's weird because they're like facts don't care about your feelings and we think biologically you're not an eye because you're a borg. Yeah, and this just starts a whole thing. Yeah, and then, you know, he's like, well, you know, biology doesn't have a lot to say about individuality. That's more of a social construct know, biology doesn't have a lot to say about individuality.
Starting point is 00:30:05 That's more of a social construct. You're being confused by a relevant data. Ignore it. Seven tells them to cut the shit and stay part of the collective. Like she inserts herself into this conversation and it's like, we got to be professionals. Look at us. Yeah. Look at us.
Starting point is 00:30:24 We're B be professionals. Look at us. Look at us. We're Borgs. At this point, we are recognizing the three drones that she's crashed with. As the three people that were telepathically communicating about stage two and stage three around the ship. I had a hard time until you take the implants off and shake out the hair. Kind of hard for me to ID these folks. One of them is Tim Keller, the one that's calling himself I with the most alacrity is the guy that played Raphael in the teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles live action movies. Oh, what a get. Yeah, love that guy. I mean, he's been in a ton of movies in TV, but is Tim Keller going to be at the Bill Gray's regional iceplex in Rochester, New York.
Starting point is 00:31:08 He can only hope. I know I'm sure if he is, he's going to be wearing his costume from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the movie. So we wouldn't actually be able to see his face. That costume must smell like wearing a hockey bag on top of a hockey bag. So at the regional iceplex, it will blend right into the ambient aroma. I did not even consider the smell of Bill Gray's regional iceplex. I'm very excited to experience this. Yeah, it's going to be wild, man.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Over under worse or better smelling than the Rio. Oh, man. Where Star Trek Las Vegas is held. Here's what I'll say about the Rio and Las Vegas casinos in general. They're pumping in the smell, the casinos smell, in a way that Bill Gray's regional iceplex will not. So, I think it's going to smell like ice melt and hockey bag at Bill Gray's. And if we're lucky, hot dog stand and popcorn maker, right? I'm going to, you know what, I'm going to bring my ice skates.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I still have a pair of ice skates from when I played ice hockey as a kid. I'm gonna get the blades cut, you know? Are you allowed to fly with ice skates in your carry on? I bet you can't. Yeah, I'll put them in my check luggage. Great. Good thinking.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You don't want those things taken away. I want the blades nice and sharp for our live show the next day It sounds like you have big things planned Back in the present BLT has scanned those borg's synaptic relays with seven and she's able to authenticate them Yeah, parts are authentic and she's able to authenticate them. Yeah, parts are authentic. They're talking about the kind of feelings that Seven had upon laying eyes on these
Starting point is 00:33:11 and debating whether or not it's nostalgia or something else. And this is a bit of a distinction that Seven is unwilling to make. Like Seven doesn't want to be slapped with the nostalgia label, but BLT sort of sees right through that. Proud of Sevin here,
Starting point is 00:33:29 for doing like the first part of the project of making yourself a less caustic person to be around. Mm-hmm. Because like, step one is you say the caustic thing to drive away a good friend, and then you're like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it. Like I just said it and I wasn't thinking
Starting point is 00:33:49 and thanks for, you know, being considerate or whatever. I'm getting better at catching those before they fly out of my mouth. Step two is not saying those things at all and that is the work of a lifetime for me. But like, if you can just right on the heel of saying something being like, up, I said it and I know I said it and I shouldn't have said it. Please be patient. This is what sevens do in here.
Starting point is 00:34:14 She's getting better. She does not totally smash BLT's nuts. Sufficient enough for BLT to actually do the turnaround and go like, hey, I really meant what I said. And I think, I think maybe some further thinking about this could do you some good. I only don't want to do it. Perfect, Black. Make it yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Back in Nelix's restaurant, the three XBs are having a telepathic conversation around dinner. And it sort of seems like the one of them who we find out eventually is the primary adjunct. It was kind of fed up with the other two like because the Tim Callaher one is always like having second thoughts. He never took that well to the collective in the first place. Like he was the first one to start calling himself I
Starting point is 00:35:09 when they got out of the collective. He's just not doing a great job like coming up with consensus every time. Yeah. I apologize for my indecision. Apologies are irrelevant. Yeah, he needs to get on their level and he's really not.
Starting point is 00:35:23 It's like herding cats for the primary adjunct guy. Yeah. Yeah. They always have to drag Peach and along. Yeah. But the second seven gets on her charging mat. They all notice it's like a, you know, they, they stopped their fork midway toward their mouth and then push their TV dinners away from themselves when this happens. That's because those devices that Seven took from Lansor start flashing under workbench. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So these things are communicating with the conspirators and they are able somehow to make changes to the ship's sensors as soon as these things start flashing. On the bridge, Tuvac notices something beeping, but we cut away before he notices this in a wordless way. I really like this moment. How were they changing the internal sensors with their minds? I do not know. They just have like, Borg stuff in their minds that enable them to do that. I guess. Wow. Well, yeah, so there's this like security breach detected moment on the bridge and the the three XBs are in an elevator and they do that thing or they stop the elevator
Starting point is 00:36:39 between floors and hop out through the ceiling. This is great. Yeah. Every elevator I get on, I check the ceiling to see if there's like a panel that you could push aside and get up on top of the elevator car. It doesn't seem to exist in real life.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Let me tell you something, man. If we stay at the Rio for Stratrich Las Vegas, you're definitely gonna want to know. We're getting on the elevator car's roof at the Rio. Not because we want to, but because we have to. If I have to bring like a reciprocating saw to the Rio, I'm getting on the roof. Yeah, they're not checking you for those, Ben. I do have to put that in my checked luggage though.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Absolutely. Can't bring that on a plane. Can you bring a reciprocating saw, but without the blades? Oh, yeah, just leave the blades in the in the checked like it. Like saying, you don't want the tool getting banged around when they throw those things on the tarmac, you know? No way. Bang in my own tool.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I don't need anyone else to do it. It's subtle. So, Tubaq, Janeway and Chico Te are working hard on figuring out the security breach and the XBs make it down into Seven's Alcove and they're like modifying it with technology and the main guy like puts his little nanoprobe tubes into her neck. I don't like this. The lady has a Borg leg garter. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah. I did see that. I don't like a depiction of assault while seven is ostensibly asleep. Yeah. I don't like this moment. That's a bad moment. You can you free-garner what?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh yeah, boy. She should have better security in the out-cove. Is the idea that people are working in there while she's asleep? And that's why she doesn't. That's bothersome by itself. Let me have some fucking privacy when she's sleeping. Crew people are dying every week on this show. Are you saying we couldn't build the outcove into a crew quarters? That would be nice. Yeah, just put some flash around the area, you know, and close it.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Maybe do a pipe and drape install out front. That way she's just drawing the screen before bedtime. Much in the same way that I'm sure they're doing at the Biff Yeageragor's regional ice center. That's what they should call it. Biff-Yagor's regional ice complex. Good look for Tuvac though. Like Tuvac catches this in progress.
Starting point is 00:39:15 He phasers all these XPs before they can do their dirty work. I mean, seven wakes up and like smacks the guys tubules out of her neck. She starts swinging. Yeah. But like one of the rare moments where Tuvac actually catches the security breach and progress and acts on it in a way that saves one of his crew members. Great scene for Tuvac. Tuvac is right throughout the entire episode.
Starting point is 00:39:41 He's right. But we flash back and we're back on the DagoBah class plan at where they've caught and killed a deer or something. Oh, I thought this was that same Borg's drone. Oh, they're just they're continuing to pick away at it. You get a lot of meat off of that Borg's bone. Don't you? Sure. I'm going to get some beers. There's nothing more romantic than a camping trip, you know, sitting around the fire and enjoying some freshly cooked biomatter. The saddest part of eating borgs is probably that the meat is always gray.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Right. No matter how well you cook it, how correctly you cook it, I mean. But also, I find that just in the deli section of most grocery stores, they've tuned the lighting so that the color temperature makes the meat look all vibrant and red, and then when you get it home and take it out of the package, it looks borgie. You know how when you get blood in your mouth and it tastes very irony, you know, I wonder if Borg's tastes like that or like some mezcal tastes very metallic. Right. Famously my favorite mezcal tastes like the barrel of a gun.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Right. Borg's has got to taste like a circuit board. Yeah, it's like smoky. It's got a little nine volt battery, tang to it, you know. Oh yeah. Now it's seven's time to start talking about memories and they all do and that's because food is great at that,
Starting point is 00:41:14 isn't it? Yeah, these smells. Wakes up a bunch of sense memories and so forth. So yeah, they're talking about, you know, having gone on camping trips in the past pre-assembulation, they're talking about what their names were before they were made into drones. And this campfire turns into sort of a ghost story experience. That's scary to them. It sucks. Like, P-chan finds a guitar and starts playing it. It's like, who asked for that?
Starting point is 00:41:47 The worst campfire shit happens here. Lancer was like, I got these shrooms. Anybody want to do shrooms? And they're like, it's like 11 p.m. Lancer, like, what are we gonna trip for a half an hour and go to sleep? It sucks. That's like a midday drug.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Not a late night drug. Let's or I would bet any amount that you're older than 55 years old. You want to do shrooms before bed? Seven of nine, not enjoying the experience of seeing everybody reconnect with their individuality and Orders them to like do a hard reset on their systems. It's not helping and You know, they're they have such a deep groove of being drones. They all like accept this advice, but I Understand the the difficulty though. No one can quite remember Which two buttons
Starting point is 00:42:45 on their head to hold down to do this reset. Oh yeah. Is it volume up or volume down with the power button? I don't know. I'm trying it like four or five times. And it's like I don't have a paper clip that I can unfold and put into this little hole. Like I have a fucking big pen, but the tip is too fat to go in the hole.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You're telling me I'm supposed to find a fucking big pen on planet Dagaba? They don't have them here. I mean, let's just shut the fuck up and eat this guy that we just roasted. How about that? Can we agree to do that? Fine.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Anybody got any salt? That's it! Fine! Anybody got any salt? God, I bet that would make it so much better. Yeah. Oh. A little soy sauce on your borg drone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You know? Some extra umami. Yeah. Deglase, the back of a implant, you know? Oh yeah. Get that crusty shit off of there. Oh man, if they had some chateaupe card from that time, they assimilated locutus.
Starting point is 00:43:54 The ideal wouldn't it? Make a little pan sauce. Yeah. I've got to get that. Not now put your Latin number, your mouth. I've got to get that. Not not now, Latin number your mouth. I'm not to get that. Not now it's just just a gold. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss.
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Starting point is 00:45:47 We're podcasters. We are podcasters. So it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of theumFun.org. I hope you see what we have here. So we're back in Six Bay. A dock has all of these conspirators up on biopads and they're out. They're covered with phaser burns and Borg's implant scars. He's like, I went through all of their wallets. You're not going to believe this. Their last names, all three of them, of nine.
Starting point is 00:46:40 They're all still connected with each other. Yeah. And they don't know why. They don't know why they're trying to get into seven of nine's memories either. They're like, well, why don't we just ask them? They boot them back up. They wake them all without security present, without dustbusters drawn. Cut to two of us.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Over wherever the fuck he is, just shaking his head. He takes a box of brand new Dixon take on Heroga's off the shelf and with all of them in his fist snaps every single one of the pencils. Guys, get strong fingers. Yeah, he's a Vulcan. Got superhuman strength. This leader, two of nine, a K a Lansor says that they want to be individuals and seven has the
Starting point is 00:47:30 information they need to be individuals. And it's different from being a normal Borgs. When you're a normal Borgs and you're hearing millions of voices, it's easy to shut that shit out. It's just like white noise. But when you're just here in two other voices, all shit out. It's just like white noise, but when you're just hearing two other voices
Starting point is 00:47:46 all the time Let's just say it's extremely clear which one of them is the purve Each voice comes through clear It has to stop. Yeah, I felt especially bad for the ladyborks in this context. Oh, yeah You gotta hear peach Lansor's fucking thoughts all the time. Ugh, oh God, yeah. She has it definitely the worst.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Doctors, is there anything you can do? And the doctor's like, I'd love to help you, but I can't! But these guys are so positive that 7 of 9 can and even 7's like, I don't know what you want for me about this, I was reintegrated into the collective without issue. So what's the problem with you guys?
Starting point is 00:48:27 There's clearly a memory fragmentation issue because they remember the campfire, they remember that bad moment, and then they remember waking back up in the collective with this all of the drones in one ear and just the other two in the other ear and having just like terrible vertigo for the rest of their time. Yeah, when they described it like that, you really understand the torture of what that would be. They want to find the missing memory, like what happened to them that caused this, and Seven must remember because she, you know, it didn't happen to her. It's like they escaped, but it didn't happen to her. It's like they escaped, but they couldn't escape each other.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So this torture of being connected feels like being roommates in college forever, Ben, where you just finish each other's everything. Ah, that sucks. Yeah. Speaking of finishing each other's everything, Paris and Ensen Kim are in Janeway's Ready Room, covered in cuts and bruises, and you really wonder what sort of a butt paddling machine they got into a fight with on the station.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And they actually do tell the story of playing a game involving this device, not knowing the rules, and it started a huge bar fight. Yeah. And their punishment is confinement to quarters, and Janeway is such a cool boss. She's like, at least tell me you won, didn't you? And they did. Mm.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Just missed. Did you take that to mean they won the fight or they won the game? Oh, I took it as game. Interesting. I thought maybe she meant the fight. Yeah, we kicked everyone's ass. That's dark, but better. Janeway's been in such a combative headspace lately with all the threats that have been
Starting point is 00:50:22 falling the ship. It kind of wouldn't surprise me. So seven passes Kim and Paris on their way out to have a meeting with Janeway. She's like, the collective deliberately wiped my memory of my reintegration. But that gap is all the same, though, between me and the other pourks on the ship. Why? Why that gap indeed seven. Yeah, there's coffee in the gaps in your memories. She's got a suggestion for how she could help
Starting point is 00:50:52 them all find this missing memory. The downside is that it could lobotomize me forever, but the upside as I may solve this mystery that we've decided is crucial in this very moment? rejoining the triad is the suggestion if she integrates into this micro collective that they have formed Maybe that's the answer and Janeways like that sounds bad unless you like them as much as I like Tom Mervins This is such a weird reframing of the circumstance because Janeways like, I know you just met them,
Starting point is 00:51:31 but would you cosine a credit card application for them? Would you feel obligated to go to their homes for the holidays and birthdays? Would you have an extremely short fuse, whenever a casual observation is made about the way you live, as if they are attacking you personally. If so, these may be your family members. So sevens got something big to consider. And you know, who else would you want to bounce a weighty decision like this off of, then Naomi Wildman?
Starting point is 00:52:12 So, she and Naomi have a conversation about, you know, like, what does family mean to you, Naomi? And what does it mean to seven? What mean family? Seven? It's like if you're invited to a holiday and you don't show up, it really fucking matters. Everyone takes it really personally and doesn't accept that you might have had other shit to do that was also important. Yeah, the big takeaway is that Naomi and Seven may just be family completely independent of Naomi Wildman's mother's opinion on the matter. Yeah, I did like that the camera kept pulling back and Vincent Wildman is down the corridor and sees this interchange happen and snaps a pencil in her hand.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Don't like that. Does Naomi ever do the slick back thing of pretending to be data? Because Naomi, you're spending a lot of time with seven and you'd expect a little more behavior crossover than just racist observations in the mess hall, right? Yeah, yeah. Does Naomi want to be an XB? Do you think she could get seven to inject some nanoprobes into her just to get her to XB status? Not fully assimilated? That's the only Naomi Wildman storyline I care about. Naomi Wildman storyline I care about. So the big day arrives and the doc is there to help seven and the gang become a quartet. And I was like, oh, like I never really thought about the fact that there are a bunch of other
Starting point is 00:54:00 charging pads there that nobody ever uses. And I was like trying trying to remember, if Sevin is always on that, you know, second one in from the right, and she recharges, or does she like jump around, you know? Is it like when you're in a couple and like you have your side of the bed that you always go to, or does Sevin like really use the space? Maybe they're like those clear plastic day of the week vitamin containers. And she's got one for all the days.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah, so she doesn't have to like do her sheets laundry as often as everybody else does. Precisely. The doctor's in the alcove and he's like, well, there's nothing I can do but watch. But I'm a doctor, so I'll watch. Yeah, he likes to watch. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
Starting point is 00:54:49 They jump on the pads and we start reliving this memory. And it's kind of a fast cut of a lot of the stuff we've already seen. But we get a new moment where seven hears another Borg's drone off in the distance on this planet and walks through the jungly mist to find this guy. He's in bad shape. He's not ambulatory. He's like slumped against a tree stump. He tries to fight her. This guy seems to be separated in a very similar way, right? He's not acting very borgsy in this moment.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, she's trying to help him. She like bends over to pick him up and instead he's like, Get away from me, you're gonna try to eat me? He's like, fuck that. You don't even have any salt, I won't taste good. Objection noted, we'll do this without you, do it. Get to do it. Objection noted, we'll do this without you, do it. Get to do it. Get to do it. Objection noted, we'll do this without you, do it.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Get to do it. Get to do it. Do it. When Seven returns to the group, oh no. Yeah. She left them alone too long. And now they're going on and on about not wanting to join the collective again.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And the collective is like inbound. Like their beacon that they built works, and they're like, well, like, let's break the beacon and like run into the forest and it'll be hard for them to find us. That'd be cool. This is the thing about the Borgs as they're always like, if you get lost,
Starting point is 00:56:13 you stay in one place. Right. You fired that beacon, stay in one place. Seven has heard about enough and she gets her tubules out and hits them all. Resistance is beautiful. I feel like you normally see them going in the left side of the neck
Starting point is 00:56:31 and she goes in the right side of the neck with the tubules on this. Yeah. I thought that was interesting that they like kind of chose a different side than normal and she like re-assimulates them temporarily. You know how it's so much more badass for Wolverine to go like to-handed?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Oh yeah. In like a torso or something? Yeah. Like I wonder if seven or any borricks could do that, could go tubules both hands. Four tubules one neck. Yeah, yeah, really jacking in. She's given nanoprobe IVs.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah. She's just doling them out to Rogue Drone after Rogue Drone. And once they're all boosted up, everyone gets back on mission and that's what you like if you're the leader, right? They're ready to go. And this, it turns out, is the thing that screwed them up because seven wakes up and they've all like jumped off their charging pads and are just yelling at her in the cargo bay.
Starting point is 00:57:31 No one wants to wake up like this. And I don't know if you noticed, but in the background, the doc is still there, but he's back is turned. He's just like letting them yell at her and two-fuck walks in and is like, hey, what's going on in here? EMH. Come on, Doc. You had one job. Can you reprogue on him or something? So back in 6-B, 7 is fine,
Starting point is 00:57:54 but the rest of the group are unconscious and in a type of shock. And the doctor hypothesizes that, while 7's intentions were good, their link to each other is just very, very strong, and it's too strong to sever. So the outcomes are either, they'll never wake up as they are, or they can be delivered to the borgs and they'll be fine once they're re-assembulated. Pretty tricky situation. If they broke the link at this point, they would die.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah. I thought it was kind of surprising that Sevin went to Chicoete for advice on this. Yeah. I thought Chicoete had a very interesting role in this episode. He feels so much more first-office-ery than he has in a long time.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Chico Tay, a character who represents having been separated from his group, you know, whether it's Make Wee's or non-specific Native American group made up by some guy for storytelling purposes. Sounds great. What they hit on in this conversation is that when all of these other people were assimilated, they were already adults. So the idea of freedom was a specific idea to them.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And when Seven was assimilated, she was a child, and autonomy as an adult was terrifying to her. So she reacted by like whipping them mac in a shape, whipping the mac into the collective as quickly as she could. It's that old story of hurt drones, hurt drones. Everyone knows that old colonel. She didn't mean to damage them and make them a permanent triad, but she did. Yeah. It really makes sense that it's because she was raised this way from such a young age. It's like she was a baby panda. You've seen pictures of baby pandas being fed by like human beings wearing panda masks. Right. Yeah. She's used to the baby panda mask.
Starting point is 01:00:04 She can't have it any other way. That's why she'd kind of trust Chico Tay because his tattoo is somewhat dolphin-like in the way that a plastic panda mask is like good enough for a baby panda. This is pretty great counsel Chico Tay gives her. He's like, you know, how would you feel with the choice of either living the rest of a natural life So how would you feel with the choice of either living the rest of a natural life as a Borg's drone or living two weeks that are just a total fuck fest on that station over there? Because we are steps away from a space station just full of eye candy and booze and not a lot of rules given what a Paris and Kim have gotten into over there, you know. There are so many rackets over there.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And Janeway will pay for it all. Whatever you want. She'll pay for it. Sounds like a pretty good deal for two weeks, huh? Seven marches back down to Doc Holode's office to debate this issue with him. And it's a conclusion that he's come to, right? Like I'm not going to send these people back to the collective. Like sure they'll live the longest that we can predict of any of the options in front
Starting point is 01:01:21 of us. But like, is that really living? Man. There's no fuck fest on a Borg's cube. of the options in front of us, but like, is that really living? Man! There's no fuck fest on a Borg's Cube. There just isn't. And the doc is pretty anti this position until she's like, what if it was like we took away your mobile emitter? Is that surviving? Is that thriving? People with bad opinions all the time are just unable to see their folly until,
Starting point is 01:01:47 what if it were you? Is the counter argument and the doctor's like, huh! Alright, yeah, I get that. That's actually pretty smart. So, it's agreed they're going to do it. Yeah, the doctor's on her level now. And we get a scene here that made no sense to me. We cut from the doctor agreeing to this procedure to the newly severed exports, finally individuals, finally separated, something they've wanted their entire lives,
Starting point is 01:02:26 together in the same room. What are you doing? The clock is ticking on that fuck fest, guys. Listen, survival is insufficient. Fuck fest is the only thing in the sufficient. Why are you in Nielix's restaurant after hours wasting these precious moments? You've got a month. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:47 You could have blasted two or three times in the length of this conversation. The lady probably could have blasted seven or eight times. Yeah. Because that's their special power. Right. I lasted 22 minutes. So, we get a moment with each of these XBs where they share their special plans with each other. Lance or wants to go off to the space station
Starting point is 01:03:10 and have a fuck fest. Good choice, Lance or. Good choice, Lance or. You chose correct. P-chan wants to go to a planet with nobody on it. He just wants to be real alone. And I can get on that level too, I guess. Yeah, he's like, it's a planet
Starting point is 01:03:27 that only has watermelons and microwaves and no people. Look, I'm also gonna take the Da Vinci bottom-spanking device with me. But that's just because I like sports. A way to focus the mind. And finally, the Bejoran, Marika Wakara, she wants to stay on Voyager, and she won't forgive seven for what she did, but she does understand it. She did see Harry Kim walking around earlier, so she's like, I think the fuck, as for me, maybe right here aboard this shit. One thing I wanted to say before we leave this scene is I lasted 20 minutes. Very proud. Harry Kim. Who are you? Harry Kim.
Starting point is 01:04:26 One thing I wanted to say before we leave this scene is how much I like the lighting of it. This is Star Trek Generations lighting where there's a glow from outside. You don't see space station out the window. You see those establishing shots of the ship docked at the station. But this glow is so pleasant.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And I wish it was more of a thing, show to show on Star Trek. It's really nice. They do a lot of that in New Trek. The like sunset through the window lighting. It's great of this. Yeah, I really appreciate it as well. Finally we're in the As lab where Naomi has heard about all of the drones stuff, I think we get a stop telling Naomi about things happening on the ship. It's tough. Yeah. Because you don't want to have an adult conversation with a fucking kid about serious space
Starting point is 01:05:15 mission shit. You know, if you ever heard of the conversation, the birds and the bees, well, bees are a type of drone. And Naomi's a bit young to be hearing about what birds and bees bees? Well, bees are a type of drone, and Naomi's a bit young to be hearing about what birds and bees get up to. We get the single brass instrument of bringing your child to work day at the very end, and that closes out the up. You like this one, Ben? You know, I'm really easy to get along with, close to the side, but I don't like bullets,
Starting point is 01:05:40 I don't like friends, and I don't like you. You love this too. I did. It swung wildly in tone from that opening moment of Chico Te bringing the crazy racket device into the captain's office. Like, I really thought we were going for light silly episode at the top. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And I guess I was like, I can't figure out how light silly episode is going to happen given the fact that the cold open established that this was a Borg's crash landing episode. Right, right, right. But I thought they did a really nice job threading that needle. And it was a more interesting dilemma than it seemed at the beginning. And I really liked that seven than it seemed at the beginning. And I really liked that Seven, you know, took this risk to help them out and found something out about herself
Starting point is 01:06:29 that is like complicated and something that she needed to reckon with in a deep way. Like why, why is she is the way she is as an XB has a lot to do with when she was assimilated in a way that I didn't really put together in my mind before now. And I think that that's what the strength of this episode is. It's an exploration of that. Yeah, I really think this is an Apex 7 of 9 episode, like a real foundational one for that character, one that I really liked. And I really thought it might have been the end of her backstory,
Starting point is 01:07:03 seeing that episode where we watched her parents mission together and how she was captured and assimilated. Interesting to just think about, why don't we in search another story in here? And where would that happen? How would it happen? Yeah. Very unusual, very surprising how this played out.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And I liked it a lot. I think the co stars are really strong in this one too. They really made me feel some things for their plate. Yeah, I liked that Pete Chen was cool, but rude. Yeah. Lance Thor was more of a party dude. Yeah. I mean, he wanted to go back to the station pretty fast. Seven of nine leads, obviously. And so that leaves Marika to do machines. And obviously she has the mechanical leg garter to do it with. So it was a nice force in there. You know, if Marika goes and gets married on the ship in the next couple of weeks and
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Starting point is 01:10:34 And MVL Editorial, lucky to have such a supportive spouse. Absolutely. Ben, our next priority one message is from Jeff, aka Captain Chris Lando, on the FOD mastodon. It's to Ben and Adam. Message goes like this. Found your other hit podcast first. During mid-season three of Disco, jumped on the TGG at the start of Voyager
Starting point is 01:11:01 and got hooked like suck disk. Finished binging. At the start of Voyager, and got hooked, like Suckdisk. Ha ha ha ha! Finished binging. All of the next generation TGG-EPS. So now I'm throwing some scarves your way. Thanks for all the laughs. Hope to see you live again soon. And I'll buy another P1 when I get through DS9.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Cheers! Hey, thanks, Jeff! Jeff's very unusual, secu-sacu-s-path-through are shows. I'm not sure if I've heard this exact order before. Yeah, I've heard a lot of people like I found out about it and I started from episode one. I've heard plenty of people that are like, yeah, like hopped on mid DS9.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Been listening ever since. I've never heard hopdone greatest track mid season for Yachtisco. That's great. Congratulations, Jeff. Glad to have you. Yeah, thanks for joining the FOD Masterdown, that rules. Our final P1 here is from despite having nothing to say,
Starting point is 01:12:00 I'm abusing the no character count on the two and from fields to say more of it. And it is too. This is one of those I don't really have anything to say other than thanks for the awesome podcast P1s. And it goes like this. I've been through TNG and I'm now watching DS9 along with past use. Even shitty episodes are made enjoyable by thinking can't wait to hear what Ben and
Starting point is 01:12:23 Adam have to say about this hot mess You're surprised and delight at the success of this pod and the way people have responded never seems to diminish And it's a great vibe Not the flared bass kind. Hey, thanks Despite having nothing to say I'm abusing the no character count on two and from fields to say more of it We really appreciate that what What a nice message. Yeah, that's great. That's great.
Starting point is 01:12:47 The surprise and delight never go away. Yeah. I mean, I mostly wake up every morning expect that to have gone away. Like people are like, yeah, we're done with this. You know, yeah, keeps growing. Yeah, I wonder if Jeff aka Captain Chris Lando from the FOD mastered on has ever met despite having nothing to say I'm using the no character count on two and from feels to say more of it.
Starting point is 01:13:15 They both seem hyper verbal in a way that would make a very fun conversation. Yeah, I would like to listen to that. Well, if you'd like to put some words in our mouth, promote a business or just, you know, wish a happy birthday to someone or whatever, hit the maximum fund.org slash Jembo, Tron, and secure a P1 today. Hey, Adam, what's happened? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I had one chambered until you said something in the episode and now I've changed my mind. It is most definitely the doctor for having his back turned during a fairly crucial moment of a job that he said he would do.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Yeah. Like, seven is going to sleep around these effectively strangers and wake up and are screaming their heads off at her. And he's like dicking around on his computer, facing the other direction. What are you doing? They've drawn three sharpy penises on her forehead by the time he turns around. It's bad. Bad job, Doc.
Starting point is 01:14:27 That's a mix of my drunk Shimoto. What about you? Same. Yeah. Like you cannot let the XBs use a bunch of cold cuts and sausages to spell the word Judas in seven's alcove. What does it mean? It means a matter.
Starting point is 01:14:44 It means Ray Wangay. It means, Ray Wingay. Like, you have to turn around faster than that. So, yeah, I think, uh, for that reason, that you have made, just my drunk Shimoda as well. Love a double Shimoda, Ben. Well, what do we have coming up on next week's episode? Next week's episode is season six, episode three, Barge of the Dead.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Bologna struggles with questions of the afterlife and her cling on heritage. What was the last barge you were on? You know, it's such a specifically fun word, you know? Yeah. I'm trying to think if I've ever actually been on a barge, and I feel like I must have. Like not one at sea, but one like mord somewhere,
Starting point is 01:15:29 you know, like near a park or something. Barge is the only thing you launch fireworks off of. Right. I know those barges. I know the barge that the band plays on at the Tiki bar in San Francisco. I know the R&B group, DeBarge. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Who does them? They're great. Uh-huh. I wonder if DeBarge has ever performed on a barge. Ha, ha, ha. Oh, God. If we're ever gonna be canceled, it's gonna be because of that one.
Starting point is 01:16:02 That one specifically. That's bad. Why is that bad? No, it's gonna be because of that one. That one specifically. That's bad, why is that bad? No, it's great, it's great. Yes. Well, we gotta figure out how we're gonna watch that episode, Ben, you know, there's only one place to find out
Starting point is 01:16:16 over at Coch that Biz Slash game. That's true, Adam. It looks like there's only one special square we could hit. It's a Delta Flyer square that would fly us up to that measure of a man way up on the second to top row. Hmm. Hmm. Of course, currently we're on square 29.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Appropriate, because we're recording this episode comes out on the 29th. Wow. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. So, uh, amazing. We go ahead and roll this bone. See what happens. to learn as you play. Roll. So uh... Amazing. We go ahead and roll this bones. You would have happens.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I jumped all the way over. I rolled a six. Hula! Did I win? Harvey. One square 35, Adam. Hmm. Looks like a regular old episode to me.
Starting point is 01:17:00 It'll be a regular old episode next time. But if you'd like a regular old episode in between now and then and you can get to Brooklyn, New York Yeah, kind of that live show at the bellhouse Very excited for that. One cool aspect to this live show Matt and A show! Matt and A! Get Daydrunk with the greatest Jen! Get Daydrunk with the greatest gen! We'll have you Daydrunk and back at home and time for dinner where you can get drunk for the second time
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah, just keep the party going. I love it. Wow. Well, really looking forward to this trip and I'm Also just wanted to say thanks to all the friends of the soda who make this kind of fun stuff possible. Yeah. Can't do it without you. Can't do it without everyone who goes to Maximumfund.org slash join and supports the show on a monthly basis. Can't do that windy pretty our producer who is keeping the ship afloat watching the shop while we're traveling. Guess what Ben, announcement for the show.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Windy pretty going to Rochester, New, and Bill Gray's ice complex. She's gonna be there. I have heard that they're thinking about renaming it, Wendy Pretty's ice complex. Yeah. Well, you may want to hold off on that before I tell you that... The Card Daddy Bill Tilly, also making an appearance. What? I know, right?
Starting point is 01:18:28 You know what's great about this? Is the whole team is going to Rochester, but neither of them have confirmed whether or not they're going to the show in New York the next day. Deeply painful to have that out there and neither of them seem very interested in going to a live show. Yeah, we've kind of heard your shit. We don't need to go do that in the middle of our weekend.
Starting point is 01:18:53 You know what, I'm kind of more excited about the offerings at the Bill Gray's ice complex and Rochester. I'm anticipating the smell will be better anyways. Shh. They're really gonna miss out. I love going to the bellhouse and doing shows there gonna be great fun We got to thank Adam Ragusia for the original theme music based on dark materials card song Go check out Adam Ragusia's podcast and YouTube channel announcement from Adam Ragusia not going to Rochester What? Have we confirmed that? I'm going to text him and see.
Starting point is 01:19:28 All right. He might come to Rochester. He may text you back after that show. Hey man, just saw this. Yeah. Hope you had fun. Yeah. He never text me back. Don't kid a kidder. No. No. He leaves you wondering,
Starting point is 01:19:45 he'll leave those three dots up there for a long ass time. Yeah. Follow at Greatest Trek on all social media, join the Friends of Disodomastodon or thedrunkshamota.com discord. And with that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that for the longest time I misremembered
Starting point is 01:20:09 as a Warp episode that was in TNG, and I like, at one point, rewatched all of TNG, and I was like, did I fucking imagine that episode? What was that? Yeah, you think party barge, you think Warp. I really do? With debarge performing. I like, see that's fun.
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