The Greatest Generation - Blowoff Transference (VOY S2E7)

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Bringengwa the U.S.N. Borthas Jerkka Captain Captain Bringengwa the U.S.N. Borthas Jerkka Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast. A couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed. About having a Star Trek podcast, I'm Adam Pranaka. I'm Ben Harrison.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Bullets been dodged. You're talking about the game of buttholes. The Will of the Cartaker, I think. I'm not getting drunk this episode. I'm having a beer. That's fine. That's just fine. It'll make me kind of burpy, not unbelievably burpy. The way I would be if we had gotten to that more than hammered.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I am editing an episode of Star Trek Burpcast as we speak. Oh yeah, that was our Tlaxian Champagne episode. Now that's a burpy episode. You know, Descript does a good job of removing placeholder words. Does not do a good job with flatulence. It's something I'm gonna have to take up with their programmers
Starting point is 00:03:26 over on their Discord. Yeah, we are on square 97 of the game of Bloodholes right now. It's right. I wonder, does rolling the dice now give us a 50% chance of hitting a Mornhammered? We can't overshoot, right? It forces us to do the Mornhammered. If we roll three or up. Yeah, that is how it
Starting point is 00:03:47 goes. So it's more than a 50% chance. Yeah, I mean a two is the only role that we can get that that gives us a regular app. Yeah, boy. That's a one out of six chance. People are gonna absolutely hate us. People already absolutely hate us. Yeah, yeah. Right? I don't even remember what they were saying, but somebody on the Reddit just said something like absolutely cruel about us. And I was like, I cannot imagine belonging to a Reddit
Starting point is 00:04:18 about a show that I hate as much as this person clearly hates our show. Yeah. Like this person clicked subscribe on a Reddit of a show they don't like. What the fuck? I think you just described the internet and just what people like to do there.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I guess so. I spent a good long time off of the internet this last week. Yeah. I felt nice. I felt like a good thing. Yeah. And then I came back and immediately fought with someone on Reddit. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:04:48 They said something about us not really trying on the show anymore, and I took great umbrage with that because you can say just about anything, about me or the show. But don't you fucking dare say that we don't work hard on it. I think that is irrefutably false. It is irrefutably false. It is irrefutably false. It's in many ways harder work than the real jobs we left to do this. I fought with that person on Reddit when I was editing an episode on a plane flying home from a vacation last night. So I was in a place. Yeah. I mean, hopefully the work we put in doesn't seem strenuous.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Like you don't want it to feel effortful. You want the listening experience to be like, wow, they just tossed that off amazing. Right, it takes a lot of work to sound this dumb. Really does. Man, well, Jirks on the internet, eh? What are you gonna do? You know what, it's fun to be doing a thing that matters to people in both directions, right?
Starting point is 00:05:52 That's a good way of thinking about it. I need to come back to that more often. I'm just talking about Star Trek with my friend. That's the resting state. Yeah. No better partner to that experience than one Jonathan Fra state. Yeah. No better partner to that experience than one Jonathan Frakes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 The man at the helm of today's episode, it's Star Trek Voyager Season 2 Episode 7. Parts of a Reversion. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Ha! Do you think Frakes was just tossing off the time of this episode? No way. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Ah! Do you think Frex was just tossing off the time of this episode? No way.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Hey, directing a new episode, Partirition. I don't think anyone outside at the writer had a hand in naming this episode. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Yeah, it's one of those rare, like, one writer-c credit episodes on Star Trek Voyager. I feel like when you're Jonathan Frakes, famously playing the part of a consent fetishist, Will Riker, probably requesting a baby episode to direct Afinon, right?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah, yeah. Hey, so there's one with a weird puppet, throw it my way. Star Trek has a mixed history with the puppetry, as we'll find out later on in this episode. Yeah. Is it mixed even or is it just all bad? Mm, depends. I guess it depends on how you think about puppetry.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We open this episode and it is loud and scary. We're in Shuttlecraft Race. Yeah, in media butthole. Yeah. Hey, Paris and Kess are in a bunk bed. Neelix must be pissed. Yeah, really plants the seed right up top. What are they doing together on the Shuttle?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah. And why does Kess know so much about Shuttlecraft shit? She says she's studying up. You know, we just celebrated her second birthday in the last episode. And we've talked a lot about Kess recently. One thing that really hit me like a ton of bricks that I kind of forgot to bring up on the last episode
Starting point is 00:07:57 is if she's two years old, like her capacity to learn is really amazing. Like, I think that humans know like a million words or something, I think most people walking around like know a million words of their language. Maybe I'm wrong about that. It's a good... I think you and I probably average that,
Starting point is 00:08:17 but you're more like 1,300,000, and I'm like 700,000. I may be off on the number, but it's like a really, and I'm like 700,000. I may be off on the number, but it's like a really, really high number like that. And so like the thing that's amazing about it is how many words per day you have to learn to get to that over the course of your childhood.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And like if you're two and like as far as anyone can tell a fully like cognitively developed adult that's able to learn about like shuttlecraft emergency procedures also, her brain is amazing. Do you think if you sat down and your project was, I'm gonna write every word I know? Do you think that's a project that a person could actually do? I would advise against it. I think you could probably do a lot more productive shit with your time. I don't know. I think I'm going to try it. I mean, you learned a new word today Adam. Partarition. Partarition. Partarition.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Partarition. An episode title that could have gone on the one where Cass develops a baby bag on her back. But instead they saved it for this one for some reason. Cass having just had that significant birthday. You want to bring the birthday kid to an amusement park if you can, if that's possible. Flight simulator. Yeah, and this is like the next best thing, right? Like Flight Simulator 2371. The latest and greatest from the Microsoft Corporation.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, you want to get one of those graphics cards that's almost impossible to find because of the Bitcoin mining concerns that are buying them up. If you want to actually fly the shuttlecraft, you have to spend a lot of in-game money. What it's gonna do in flight simulator 2371
Starting point is 00:10:12 is it's gonna start you on a Cessna. There's gonna be no complex airplane scenery at the airport around you. Just gonna be a line drawn out of hill. She's doing her training flight. Tom Paris is flight instructor Paris throwing some curve balls at her. Cogging someone's plasma injectors is a dirty trick. Kind of a dark moment in this interaction when you know Paris resets the game after she wins the first time and he's like, now
Starting point is 00:10:43 you get to learn how to land and Kess is like, I don't need to learn how to land. And he's like, oh, all right, well. Nothing concerning there. I'm not gonna tell anybody about that. And she's like, good, I'd prefer you didn't. And he's like, well, I won't. Yeah, I'd prefer you just keep that part to yourself. And then a banger gets dropped on the shuttle.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And she, she suggestively falls into his arms. Very fun bit of Austin powersing she does here. I made a sexy mistake. And, and the, and the shuttle is being attacked by ticks. I didn't think we would see any ticks on Voyager. They leave the holodeck, you know, like almost arm and arm, but not. They're like arm swinging, they're so happy, you know? Like they had a great time in there. There are a couple of good time buddies having a real fun hang with each other,
Starting point is 00:11:41 and that does not wash with the creepy man that is lingering in the hallway nearby. Yeah. Nielix was very concerned that something untoward might be going on in that bunk bed. And he sees evidence to confirm his deepest fears. Nielix narrows his eyes, taking great ombrit with what he's seeing.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I thought an interesting choice to, like, episode order-wise. I think, like, I guess the last episode, they'd had shot and on the shelf for months by the time they made this one. And there's that interesting interchange between Nelix and Chicoete about W about Wenz jealousy, right? Like the fact that you're vulnerable with this person that you love and worried that they could hurt you. And and and now like the knife is getting twisted. It's getting worse for Neelix, not better.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Her perfume is all over Paris's uniform now. It's weird like we're told Cass is such such an empath but she can't seem to tell how Nielix is that boil. He's about to boil over over this. Was she rocking the medallion? Did she have the the locket from the last episode? That's a great question. I don't think she does. We need some locket continuity here. Yeahack of lock-it continuity is a big problem on Star Shack Voyager. Also lack of hair cut continuity for the captain. Yeah. We check in with Janeway in her ready room.
Starting point is 00:13:13 She has changed up her look. Good news and bad. During this meeting with Chico Te, we learned that food reserves are down 30% and she's cut 30% of her hair in solidarity with that figure. Yeah. They have an M-Class planet on long range sensors that they think has some promising readings, lots of proteins and amino acids, so that's good. They got to go check it out.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I mean, a lot is made over the many haircuts of A Catherine Janeway throughout the series. Because Picard only ever had the one. That's true. I guess Cisco had two. He had the medium and then he just went to shave, I guess. It made me wonder if they made a very specific choice to not give Kate Mulgrue the Genevieve bejolt hair, which she now has in this episode. Like, she's got Genevieve bejolt hair cut.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Do you think it's the wig? Do you think it could be the same wig? Can you just wear another person's wig and have it work on screen? I thought wigs were made for specific heads. I don't know, right in. Well, a lot of shade is thrown at this planet that Chico Tay is proposing they go visit. It may or may not have what they're
Starting point is 00:14:31 looking for. They don't know that because the atmosphere is so fogged up. They're only going to be able to tell if it's got what their ship craves by going there. And so they said, of course, for what they're calling planet hell. Planet hell. What a name. It's a place that cybac would definitely not want to go. The exact opposite direction.
Starting point is 00:14:55 In fact, no one calls it shakari. No one calls it the source. No one calls it heaven or Eden, Ben. What is the devil need with a starship? Klingons do not call it, Quitu. For the Romulans, it is most definitely not known as Vortivore. And the Andorian word is still unpronounceable. It may be the home of Veclar.
Starting point is 00:15:20 The guardian of Great War, where the dishonor go when they die. The return of feclar would be a great moment. Yeah, that would be awesome. Give me more feclar. Yeah. Speaking of things that make terrifying sounds, we go from feclar to Kim's clarinet. Yeah, fortunately we're saved by the bell. Tom Paris rings his door and the surprise to find Harry Kim in their practice in clarinet. That was you? That was me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, I mean, when the scene begins, Paris can't seem to tell where the sound is coming from. I thought that was an interesting introduction to the moment. Like, is there some sort of scattering field around the living quarters on the ship that would make it so that the directionality of sound would be suppressed a little bit? That would be a good... I mean, he made him better hope that's what's going on
Starting point is 00:16:19 because I bet he makes a lot of noise in his quarters with the various crew members he invites in there. Yeah, not all of them are sisters. Harry Kim saved up replicator rations to replicate this thing. That means his clarinet is made out of chocolate or something. It's totally edible. Paris just takes a bite out of it. Nice, Harry.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Paris does that thing that that comics hate. He's like, oh, you're a comedian. Tell me a joke. Right. Which is what he does to Kim and his clarinet. Play me a tune, clarinet honker. And so Kim, Kim does just that. But Paris wants to switch the station pretty fast. He's not liking what he hears. Yeah, Paris isn't a bad mood. I really like this scene. This is a scene we get to stay in for a long time. And I think that there's something kind of unusual about a main cast, Star Trek character,
Starting point is 00:17:20 like going this deep into their inner struggle in this casual away. I really liked it. I liked I like just two buds like talking about feelings like Paris is saying like I have been really trying to just be a good friend of Kess and then having her in my arms that unlocked something in me and I like can't kick the thought out of my head and I really don't want it in there because... She reminded me of my mother alright, know that about it. Kess. Kess. I know, I know. I know that that's like drama that this ship doesn't need and that I don't need and that she doesn't need.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Am I making any sense here? It feels like a reversal of Star Trek gender roles that we frequently get where two lady friends are talking about a third guy. Yeah. It's nice to see Paris and Kim chop it up here a little bit about Paris's secret feelings. Yeah. And I think a funny scene too, because like, the argument that Tom Paris is making is, I'm really
Starting point is 00:18:25 bumming out about this. So I need you to play some sad music to like set the mood and, and Kim insisting on playing chipper music. Kim is a fairly insightful observation about Parris that is related to Will Reikers' consent fetishism. Maybe Parris is a rejection fetishist. Yeah. With how often he makes decisions that lead him right into those conclusions. Why do I do this to myself?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah, like there is a kind of like victimhood that he expects life to subject him to. And so he kind of like engineers situations to thrust him into victimhood in a way. Right. Kim is really hawking on his clarinet. Like, I mean, he hasn't played since being stationed on the voyage or yeah, and his ambisher is still like super strong after all of his work with the Delaney sisters luckily so yeah He's kept his lips really malleable
Starting point is 00:19:31 I also really liked you know just a subtle thing in the scene but Frakes has the camera Just kind of plunged down through the floor of the deck and down into two Vox quarters one below where he's hitting the ceiling with a with a broom handle We cut to Nelix and Kes at dinner and really interesting performance here by Ethan Phillips, like straining against his inner feelings in the moment, like being, you run into this sometimes, like, like maybe you're just in your own head about a thing, but you still have to perform socially. Right. Neelix is performing socially in this scene, and it isn't until the very end of it that Kess realizes that something is very, very wrong inside him.
Starting point is 00:20:18 She sees through it finally. It's such an interesting scene too, because came in Paris are being really vulnerable with each other, and Nielix is trying to suppress everything. Yeah. And that contrast really feels profound when you cut from one to the other in this rapid a way. And I really like the cut from this scene too. it's something like we don't get a verbal acknowledgement of this, we're onto the next, right afterwards when they arrive at Planet Hell, and I like that.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I like wondering what's going on there. It's a scene that really moves and feels important, but also leaves you in that ambiguity of not resolving itself. And on the bridge, they're looking at planet hell and they get interrupted by Doc Hollow Day who admits that he's been dropping eaves on the bridge crew. Whenever they do anything,
Starting point is 00:21:18 he's basically listening in to see if he can kind of get out ahead of the medical issues that may arise. And they feel a little, their privacy has been betrayed or something. to see if he can kind of get out ahead of the medical issues that may arise. And they feel a little, their privacy has been betrayed or something. I am programmed to be discreet. I'm sure. Yeah, they feel that way because Doc holiday was like, you sir, I'm a little late for
Starting point is 00:21:37 arriving at Planet Hell. I was just listening in on a very awkward conversation that Neelix and Kess were having over dinner. You guys won't believe this, that Neelix and Kess were having over dinner. You guys won't believe this, but Neelix still thinks she's standing up in closets with sailors. And they're like, really Doc holiday? That seems like a really dated term. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah. I mean, it's less about the conditions on the planet that the duck is providing linomints for them to use. And in order to solve them, then it is the idea that the duck can be anywhere listening
Starting point is 00:22:15 to anyone at any time. Yeah. The case he's making, though, is that planet hell should really have been called planet itchy as hell, because this mixture of proteins and amino acids in the atmosphere really gonna irritate the skin of anybody that beams down there. Perhaps you'd like an analgesic cream. Is there any escape from the doctor as you know it? If you put your comb badge in a drawer, do you think that gets him out of your life
Starting point is 00:22:45 or is he like sealing cat watching you jacket? I mean, in some ways, like I guess I wouldn't mind because he's kind of a program. He can't feel tittleation. Right. If he did, he would be doing nothing but banging Sandrine in Sandreins. Yeah, which he may be doing also, you know, like we don't know if he can be in there at the
Starting point is 00:23:07 same time as he's in Six Bay. Could he send the lower half of his body to the holotic and then remain with his upper half in Six Bay to do his doctorly business? Yeah, yeah. So they kind of around the horn on the bridge a little bit. The doctor having provided his cream, BLT confirming no transporting allowed, and don't count on communications working on this one either.
Starting point is 00:23:34 We're setting up the conditions for a difficult mission ahead. And from there we cut to Kim and Paris entering the mess hall, and this is awkward because Kess is inside. I think I'll just eat later. The implication is that if a Kess is eating alone, you're going to want to sit next door if you're her friend. But a Paris is coming up with a way to avoid her that involves work, and this just sets
Starting point is 00:24:01 up a very awkward moment to follow. Yeah. and this just sets up a very awkward moment to follow. Yeah, the takes that Frakes gets here are very funny because they're kind of like, they're standing in the doorway, Kess turns around and notices them and waves at them like, I don't know, they're meeting up at the Grand Canyon after months of not seeing each other or something.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I mean, Jonathan Frakes is such a student of the human condition, such an open-hearted person. I think he can tell maybe more than most, you know, what a stranger might be going through, what they might need in a particular moment. And I think when you're around someone as receptive as he is, you can't help but be drawn to them. Yeah, you just want to soak that energy up and spend what fleeting time you might have
Starting point is 00:24:51 in its presence, really making the most of it. Yeah, I mean, to give away an opportunity like that. To squander. Oh, to use one of your million words. See, I was using two cheapies. Yeah, but you could have upgraded to first class. I know. Yeah, you know I would have sat right next to Squander, Ben.
Starting point is 00:25:14 You know that. But it stood at a long conversation with that word. But, you know, in the scenario where you were on the plane and then somebody asked to trade seats with you or offered to trade seats with you and then you got to sit next to Squander. Wouldn't you feel a little bit weird about it at that point? And Squander's already got the headphones in and is like doing something that is clearly work. So there's Servin Pasta in the mess hall
Starting point is 00:25:43 and we're told instead of Angel hair pasta it's actual hair. Hair. And red sauce. Yeah. It looks delicious. This has like that like suburban American spaghetti look to it that it's just like a bowl of nudes with jar of prego dumped on top of it. Call the pasta police.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But that can be really satisfying sometimes. The common joke thread with Nelix is the expectation thread. The, oh, you expected this? Well, instead it's this. Yeah, and it's pretty fun to have that joke layered on top of, I fucking hate you and I want you to eat this gross thing.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, I wasn't sure in my mind what threatening pasta serving would look like. But you get that here. Ethan Phillips found that gear. Yeah. So the strategy is going to be we're not going to sit with Cass. We're going to make a play of like we've got very important bridge officers to discuss and that's not really something Cass is privy to so came and Paris are sitting down when Chicote calls came up to the bridge and now Paris is sitting there with his back to Cass. Cass is pissed that he is not
Starting point is 00:27:03 sitting with her. Nielix is pissed that they are like making a show of not sitting with each other and you know playing him for the fool. And so Cass storms out Nielix boils over and comes and splatters pasta into Tom Paris's. Intune. Tom Paris is here. What the hell are you doing? What I like about this scene is how grounded in awkward reality it is. If you are taking this from the perspective of Nielix, and you are seeing two people that you suspect are hooking up treating each other in a sort of fake coldness, a performative coldness?
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah, pretending to be strangers. It definitely would make you paranoid, and Nelix walks from behind the counter and challenges Paris about it, and then before you know it, it's a food fight. Yeah, they are brawling all over and totally soaked in sauce when they get called up to the ready room. Almost like the captain knows what they're doing I mean when you're rolling around covered in spaghetti sauce on a carpeted floor on a set Yeah, yeah, all I can think about was the reset the reset is brutal. Yeah, yeah my friend who is a customer for television in New York
Starting point is 00:28:19 And I watched the hurtlocker one time and there's a scene where he's in his full marine and I watched the hurtlocker one time and there's a scene where he's in his full marine, field kit and he gets in the shower and his washing blood and bits of bone off of himself. She was like, huh, huh, thinking about it from a work standpoint. Like how do you, how do you fucking have,
Starting point is 00:28:44 like you probably have to have like 10 of that costume ready to go, ready for renter to change into to do another take of that scene because that's how many times you're going to probably have to do it. What's fun is to think that, you know, not only the challenges that are inherent in this scene, but when we cut to the next scene after Nelix and Paris have been called into the principal's office by Captain Janeway, they're standing in a place with food stuck to their chest
Starting point is 00:29:17 that could at any moment, like peel off, like a noodle falls off or a piece of red sauce, like, are they standing on top of a piece of tarp? I don't know like it's so well done like I almost feel like they might have molded like rubber Pasta and like like the display outside of Japanese restaurant Yeah, like like yeah because it's like jiggling and like doing a lot of the things you would predict except for falling off And it's really consistent from cut to cut.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah. This scene is harder to pull off than I think the average home viewer might realize and it's really well done. It makes me wonder if for continuity reasons, you don't like put the two actors into a couple of wheelchairs after the roll around scene and take them directly to the next stage
Starting point is 00:30:06 for this shot with Jane Wake. I don't know any other way to do it. Yeah. Perfect black. Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. So what she has called them up there to tell them is that they are going to be the two people going on the away mission to plan it hell. And the away mission has to be a shuttlecraft mission because of the weird energy stuff in
Starting point is 00:30:33 the atmosphere. So it's kind of a lock-in at the rec center for Tom Paris and Nielix. I mean, everything about the mission makes logical sense to pair them together. These are the two right people for this job. He's our best pilot, and you're our expert on edible plant species in this quadrant. But Janeway detects the awkwardness between them.
Starting point is 00:30:56 There's coffee in that personal problem. Because they're both covered in spaghetti sauce. That's the obvious. The more subtle is that they won't even look at each other. And she's like, what the fuck, guys? They can't wiggle out of it though. Yeah. It kind of reminded me of the episode.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Maybe it was the one that introduced Ridge Berkeley in TNG where Jordy was like, yeah, like I just hate having them on my team and I can't get along with them. And Piggerhart was like, find a way to do it. like, yeah, I just hate having them on my team and I can't get along with them. And Pekahar was like, find a way to do it. Like, I don't have time to fucking solve your interpersonal issues with your fucking crew. It's not his job.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's a great callback. So that is basically where Janeway leaves it with them. She says, yeah, like, get back to being cool with each other. That's an order. What slightly strains credulity for the rest of the episode is that they're both made to wear these uniforms throughout the mission. Yeah, they never wash the pasta sauce off.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, they have to get right on that shuttle and go. She says, as far as I'm concerned, like Castro not shaving his beard until the revolution is over. You must leave the pasta sauce on until your interpersonal problems are resolved. Yeah, they basically go from two on one meeting to a McLaughlin group. If you want to really make clear you guys, I cannot emphasize this enough. The rules of this conflict that we're about to get into, no transporting at all.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Very difficult to communicate. All right, remember this. But also, probably not important right now or ever. As semi-regular window in the atmosphere that we could transport if we absolutely have to. But they may only last for a matter of minutes. So they blow out of this meeting, and it's like speed walking that everyone does to disperse,
Starting point is 00:32:55 including Paris speed walking past Kess. Yeah. And behind him, Nielix, slowing up when Kess wants to ask what the hell happened. Kess has heard the rumors. I mean, she smelled the conflict brewing, which is why she heightailed it out of Nelix's restaurant in the first place. But now Nelix is ashamed of his actions and ashamed of all the marinara on his shirt. And he won't even give her the time of day, he won't explain himself to her. And she storms into six bay, just totally pissed off.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And the doctor is like, hey, are you sick or something? I really love the blow-off transference that happens here, because Kess gets blown off by Nelix in the scene before. And then she wheels around and blows off the dock on her way to work. And he's like trying to like prescribe her medication or something and she's like, fuck you. I was a little confused at how this scene played out for this reason. This entire conversation about people being attracted to Kess is happening between the doc and Kess.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah. The doc, who is attracted to Kess? Who is also describing the ways in which that attraction can appear that clearly was not observable to Kess. And the way that they talk to each other throughout this scene is kind of whispered in hushed tones the way that that two lovers would talk to each other. There may be a few things you don't know to look for in a man. If this were any other TV show I might think that the doc was describing himself when
Starting point is 00:34:41 describing Paris's change in states when he's around Kess. It was that intentional? I don't know. It's a wild scene. I was very distracted also by the fact that almost all of the dialogue appears to have been re-recorded later. I don't know why that would be. These are shot very intimately. It's mostly very tight close closeups in this scene.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So I don't know why they would have blown the audio. Like was there like an accident with the audio recorder or something? Like it seems crazy that they would have lost it. I mean, the big takeaway is that Kessas had two few reps to recognize when people are into her. Yeah. And because he's a doctor, he should be trusted. He's, uh, he's basically saying, dude's getting sprung off of you is a incurable disease. There's nothing I can do to help.
Starting point is 00:35:37 There's no hyposprae. I've stocked in here that'll do anything about that. Yeah. Cut to the shuttle craft, unroot to planet hell, and it's so cold inside you can see their breath. This is Nielix and Paris at the controls. Yeah. It is icy.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's icy. I thought that they did a nice job with the lighting, making it chilly lighting on top of being chilly mood. They're out of communication range, so it's time to open up the conflict again. This is an argument without a satisfying conclusion because there's an emergency that happens. So, morning, vector exhaust controls malfunctioning.
Starting point is 00:36:19 With what we learned later about Kess and her wanting to break up with both of them if they were to survive the mission, I kind of wondered if they would have found Kess and her wanting to break up with both of them if they were to survive the mission. Yeah. I kind of wondered if they would have found Kess's Sebo in the engine's here. Maybe she's trying to take him both off the board. Yeah. Hence the word Sebo Kess.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Maybe it's the doctor Sebo. He would be a suspect, wouldn't he? Oh yeah, but how low Sebo are going to disappear the second, the shuttlecraft leaves the six-bay. How low Sabo contain the feet at that same time. So Nielix knows his way around the shuttlecraft a little bit. He has also done the training program, though not with the expert tutelage of Tom Paris. So he's helping a little bit in the emergency crash landing, but like up on the bridge, they're like, ooh, we're getting like pretty spotty telemetry from that shuttle and it does not look great
Starting point is 00:37:14 in terms of like their velocity and trajectory. The camera direction during the emergency as things spin out of control is insane. It's about as bangery as the camera can get without just like completely losing your ability to see anything that's going on. It's so wild that it made me wonder how close the camera up came to falling. It's just everywhere. It makes it almost difficult to understand what's happening in the frame. It's so whacked out.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah. It's like a later period born film fight scene. You're just like, what the fuck even happened? There's a magazine and a pen and the guy's dead now? That was the scene in Goodwill Hunting that really affected me most when Matt Damon told the story about his dad having a magazine magazine, and a pen, and a wrench on the table, made him choose. What a wrench, this is fucking, that's why. So we catch up with the shuttle, just pancake down the surface of this planet.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It is really fucked up. You're kind of surprising that a landing this heart is survivable, but they're both fine. Like they're not even bruised. This looks like the frame of an aliens start to check the next generation crossover where the shuttle crashes on LV426. It's stormy and gray out there.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah, or not the last LV426 image that we get in this episode also. It's stormy and gray out there. Yeah. Not the last LV426 image that we get in this episode also. It's true. Paris and Nelix are fine. They have plagued in the sand. And there's no blood. No, no must, no fuss. They don't even have to get those like silver, mylar, jackets, and pants out. Like a Quarkinotto did that one time.
Starting point is 00:39:11 They're starting to get the vapors from the vapors. And all they have to defend against them is like one of those bottled water mistors. Yeah, yeah. That rich people use. It's like bug repellent and they're like, ah, it's not really working. Ah, this is the kind that doesn't have deed in it. Fuck, this is that natural shit. That doesn't work. Yeah. I mean, the argument they started on their way down
Starting point is 00:39:37 hasn't ended because they can't agree on a course of action. Nelix is on team stay with the shuttle to be rescued and Paris is like, we can't stay on the shuttle. We're going to itch ourselves to death. They need to seek refuge in the Star Trek caves. And because Paris has rank, he pulls that rank. And that's where they go. Rank is pulled and they pack up and head out.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And it's like LV426 if there were agaves around. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of funny to see like like plants that you see in like very hot arid climates on this like dark smoky cloud planet. Get ready for an adventure and this just isn't any old adventure, either. Steam is involved. Now, that's a nice place to spend an afternoon. It's truly planet hell's gold. They've got you on there. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Right. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre- and post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, let's make a pretty great name for a tour.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Let's do it! The Share Your Embarrassment Tour is coming in August 2023, and we've got a bunch of dates in a lot of great places. Go to GreatestGenTour.com to get more info. That's GreatestGenTour.com for dates and ticketing information for the Share Your Embarrassment Tour. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Jesse Thorne.
Starting point is 00:41:18 On Jordan Jesse Go, we make pure, delightful nonsense. We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We get stupid with Judy Greer. My friend Molly and I call it having the space weirds. Pat Noswald. Can I get a ball-rock burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you. And Kumail Nanjiani.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use. Come get stupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look your podcast apps already open, just pull it out. Give Jordan Jesse Goatry. Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead. Oh, rats, hey, hey, hey, oh, I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I hate having to stand in line and, boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this arc. We've got to get on the arc. It is It is about to rain. It's about to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. Oh, we're actually, we're podcasters. Yes, totally. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal,
Starting point is 00:42:20 stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so same life, something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boat. We came to by two. What do you think? Oh no Ross and Kerry, available on a high stone. God. Kess is in her quarters at the bumming out table. Nothing cheers up a bum out like a clarinet player. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:51 She sort of waves him away like he's some kind of fucked up mariachi. His mood when he comes in is very funny because he's coming in to say, hey, your boyfriend and the guy that you might be flirting with have been lost and we have lost contact with them on the surface of this planet. But he's kind of like smiling at her and I was like, oh, Harry, give her a minute before you put the moves on. I don't like it. Sort of back burner that potential there, Harry Kim.
Starting point is 00:43:20 He's the one that Nielix is never going to see, but... You have plenty to do on the ship, buddy. Yeah, so he's explaining that, hey, we're still working on this, but when we cut, we don't see her face for a long time in the scene and when we cut to her, it's clear that she's been weeping. And it's very incongruous, like how enthusiastic and smiley Harry Kim is relative to
Starting point is 00:43:49 guess when we see what her face looks like. I mean, the reality of her situation is very painful, the idea of seeing someone for the last time and that being a bad moment. Yeah. Like, you never want that to be the last time. So you understand the reason for tears, but you're right. Like she pivots right into,
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'm so gonna dump those fuckers if they manage to live through this. Like you really get the bends emotionally from what she's going through, but maybe that's another quality of her species. Like if she learns very fast, maybe she processes emotion and trauma really fast. And realizes when somebody's not the right person for her. Like, I don't want to
Starting point is 00:44:31 be stuck to that dude for six days when my hands get sticky the next time. Right, when I'm rocking backpack, I want it to be around someone with a tight umbisher. Yeah, so seeds get plantedmbusher. Yeah. So seeds get planted in this scene. Yeah, and more ways than one. But bangers also get dropped in this scene. And Perry Kim responds to Chicoete telling the crew to head to battle stations. And that is a hard cut back down to the planet.
Starting point is 00:45:03 We don't know what this battle station situation is because Tom Paris and Nielix are finding a Star Trek cave and they enter it and without even really discussing it much, just like shoot a bunch of rocks down to block the exit. I guess just to like seal themselfs away from the itchy air. They'd rather asphyxiate than then breathe the mist out there. They do that fun star track thing where they pull some rocks together and heat them up with the phasers. It's always a fun scene. I always want to see it and I'm glad we got to see it in the
Starting point is 00:45:40 scene. I got like they made a point point of showing the close up of the phaser yeah pointing at each rock and each rock turning red. Yeah that's big fun. That's what you pay for. They start to argue again before hearing a sound in the dark. Yeah. Paris claims to have scanned this space for life forms and found nothing, but it appears he's wrong. And the LV426 vibes really start to peak, you know, real creepy in here in these caves. I checked for life signs. There weren't any. There are no.
Starting point is 00:46:19 We're going back and forth at a pretty brisk clip from here, from orbit to planet hell, and back again. There's a ship that's attacked the Voyager in orbit, and it's placed itself in between Voyager and the planet's surface. They do not respond, Captain. Like there's a very brief attempt to communicate, but normally in a Star Trek space battle, there's there's shoot, shoot, shoot, stop and check out your wounds and then maybe try to hail again. Yeah. The shooting recommences and then you stop and then ask the other person if they want to give up. Like there's none of that
Starting point is 00:46:58 that subsequent communication happening ever. There's no Tomalok, taunt. I'm saying this because I want to know what the bridge of the ship looks like, just seeing what these creatures look like at the end. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember the first time we saw the bridge of a forangi ship and it was just a white void. You can't rule that out here.
Starting point is 00:47:20 You can't rule that out here because these guys seem like not capable of building a ship based on. Can't do any worse than white void either. Like you've already reached bottom. Right. And Paris and Nielix have reached eggs and they clearly have not seen alien because they go right up to them and are scanning them and one of them starts to open
Starting point is 00:47:40 and they don't sprint for the exits. Paris has spent enough time in sun drains to know that you drape a napkin over your head, and then you take that egg to the dome. I'd say we're dealing with a sentient life form here in Alex. Wow. And this is the puppetry we refer to. This is a lizard baby creature. Wet bird lizard are three words that become
Starting point is 00:48:04 so much worse when combined. So gross. It looks like that thing they blew up inside Dexter Remick. Like I bet they just took that puppet and added some scales. Yeah. They added Dino DNA. It's gross as hell. You really have to be a believer in the puppet, right? Yeah There is a true believer that made this thing and it's like no guys We can we can light this thing and and not obscure it. We can put it center frame. You don't like the puppet? I like the puppet. I say it's not strong man as much puppet as you can bring to bear on a sci-fi franchise I'm here for.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I love a puppet. The puppet's not strong. It's way stronger than the fucking lulululu puppet. I think it's equivalent to lululu. What? Yeah. I feel like they just battered lululu and didn't fry lululu. And that's what you get here.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Lululu. So up on the bridge, here. Lulu, Lulu, Lulu. So up on the bridge they're like, okay, we've got a bit of a dilemma here because we need to get Nielix and Paris, pretty sure their ship has crashed. But we also have this hostile alien that's not talking standing in between us at the planet. So we're gonna have to figure out a way to kind of
Starting point is 00:49:22 gently shut down their weapons and get past them so that we can get into the atmosphere for this window in the atmosphere that they may be able to use the transporter through. This window seems contextually to be like an actual window as if it can be blocked by another ship. Yeah, there's there's some sort of a hole in the atmosphere that the voyage is trying to get to that the alien ship is blocking.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Some sort of hole indeed. Yeah. Two Vax got a plan for this. And you know that plan's gonna work. You work it right. You know what I'm realizing about this puppet though, Adam, is that its hands are the hands of the butler character in scary movie too. The Chris Elliott character?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah, yeah, that's big fun. They did reuse those hands. I'm not sure in which direction. I bet he used my strong hand. I mean, I didn't pay much attention to the hands because all I saw was the tiny sticks operating them. Did you notice the mashed potatoes on the fingers? Yes I did. Nobody can dip their hand into mashed potatoes unauthorized aboard a starship. I'd like to see the official Star Trek podcast make a scary movie too reference. Hey, Paris in scanning this gross out is able to determine that it can think and walk.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yeah, seems to be a sentient species. Take any biology class in middle school and they'll tell you, thinking and walking the two qualities of sentient life. These brains were made for walking and that's just what they'll do. Nielix really forms a bond with this thing. He makes the case that leaving it behind maybe a death sentence the way it is for a bird's nest to you and me. You don't just want to touch the eggs. Yeah, well in Paris is kind of arguing for like,
Starting point is 00:51:19 hey, like we don't really know what the biological imperatives are here. Like this may be a species where the parents go lay their eggs and like ditch the babies and never come back. Or they might come back but smell us on the baby and not want anything to do with the baby. And Nelix is like fuck all of that. We're gonna make sure that this thing is okay and gets to safety. Yeah, Nelix would be not someone to invite to an orderland dinner at all. He'd be a real bum out in that situation. So, I mean, Nelix true to his compassionate nature for this thing,
Starting point is 00:51:55 like pulls it out of the egg, swaddles it, and begins heating it extremely low and slow. A cooking technique that will have that meat falling off the bone in six to eight hours. Yeah. Weird choice to swaddle a lizard. I know, right? I guess if you put like a like a like a hand warmer packet in the swaddling with the lizard, that would have an effect.
Starting point is 00:52:20 But otherwise, that's nothing. So two Vox plan at disabling the alien shipworks, and we cut back to planet hell, where this gross bird thing does not want to eat the starfleet communion wafers. It does, however, like eating neelix's swaddle. And this indicates that the sustenance that this thing needs is going to be outside the walls, Yeah. And this indicates that the sustenance that this thing needs
Starting point is 00:52:45 is gonna be outside the walls, because what is it? Like the fabrics covered in the vapor that was outside? Yeah, the itchy air got all over their clothes and the baby wants to eat the itchy air. So, like by shooting the rocks in front of the cave opening have starved its food supply. They're really gonna wanna open up this cave too,
Starting point is 00:53:07 because a newborn dump is ferocious. It is just the worst thing. Yeah, that'll funk the place up. Yeah, so yeah, they gotta go move some rocks and it's real touch and go. Like they're out in the atmosphere and it's real smoky and you think that this baby is gonna have enough, but Neelix wants to inject it with cordrazine
Starting point is 00:53:33 and Tom Parris is like, no, we don't wanna inject it with cordrazine, it'll go crazy and start killing everyone. That's tricky stuff. Yeah. So instead, he uses the hypospraine and is able to concentrate some of the atmosphere and it's way better than Neelix's plan Which was to gulp some air and then bar fit into this baby space? So, so yeah, they get the baby back Back up on its feet and they're just kind of waiting around for
Starting point is 00:54:05 for Back up on its feet and they're just kind of waiting around for for Mama to show up and pick up the baby. Two straight episodes where a character is blowing something in another person's mouth. Oh, yeah, pretty interesting. How Dreen was doing that last time, wasn't she? Yeah, it's that about. No, no, no. They're getting really itchy though. There's kind of like like three different ticking clocks, right?
Starting point is 00:54:27 It's like, is the baby gonna survive? Are Nelix and Paris gonna get fatally itchy? And is the window gonna close? Like, can Voyager beam them out in time? And they start, they start to argue with Janeway. Like, they finally get radio back up and Janeway's like, okay, we're gonna get you out of there. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're best friends now
Starting point is 00:54:47 and we're trying to save this baby. And we gotta, like, we gotta buy ourselves a little bit of time. Did you hear what I just said, Mr. Nielix? Janeway is really put off by this. She's put a lot of work in taking the ship closer to the planet. They've lost track of this alien ship somewhere out there. She does not want to to brook this delay any further.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I really like that the datons between Nelix and Paris is about, hey, we're both kind of losers. No wonder Kess likes us so much. Right. She really has a thing for dead-end kids, like you and me. There's only enough time remaining in this hole as there is left in the episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Very elegant situation here. Yeah, so they duck behind a rock and an adult version of this baby comes around and is very excited to find the baby. This is one happy mama. And I love life, do you love life? Oh yeah. What do you think of this puppet?
Starting point is 00:55:48 Ha ha ha. I mean, I wanted to talk to one of these characters. I feel the same way as you. Like if one of the, if they've been able to get them up on view screen or something, I'm like, hey, sorry for the confusion. We thought this planet was empty.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Didn't realize it's where you lay your eggs. That would have been nice. I would have liked to see one of them talking. Socks are filthy bird mouths. Yeah, you're doing it. Because all we get is like, ah, ah, ah, ah. Parastrasia's a zephramacran, this alien.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And just gets mutilated on the spot. Yeah. Does not go well this first contact here. Yeah, and Nielix is like, boy, I'm glad he lily-lead me. Cut to Voyager leaving the atmosphere with two bodies on the ground, playing the Ubidubi song by Roy Orbison. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 One of those weird Star Trek episodes. Yeah, we lose two main cast characters, but kind of amazing. The beam away before the parent alien breaks the child's neck after smelling Nelix's pheromones on him. This is that stuff. Well, I have to assume that that was how it would've gone anyways. Hope the other two eggs will be welcomed into the family. A joyful reunion between Kess and Nelix in the transporter room. She gives him a big kiss despite his really off-putting facial rashes. Yeah, that's how you know it's love. Yeah, you know Tom Paris or our buddies,
Starting point is 00:57:29 the three of them are off to go share a bottle together and presumably one thing leads to another and Paris and Cass do get to have a sexual dalle and it's just with Neelix there also. I mean, you know what the French are famous for. Yeah. You know what Paris is famous for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Gonna go do it on the pool table, it's sound dreams. Ha ha ha. Gonna go fit some balls and pockets. And that's the episode, Adam. Did you like this one? You know, I've really used to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like press and I don't like you. I love this too.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I did go like it. It's very like, it's a silly episode, but it's fun. I think good, good character development on Paris and Nielix. I think it feels like the end of a chapter with the jealous Nielix stuff, which I think was getting a little long in the tooth. That's behind us now, right? I really hope it is. Like if it's not bad choice by the writer's room, but it really feels like they're over the last two episodes like kind of finishing up the arc on that. And, and very fun direction by Freak's some some really nice compositions.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And I'm pro puppets, I'm here for the whole thing. Yeah, you are pro puppet, aren't you? I really am. I don't want to say that the quality of the episode rests on the puppet, but I think the quality of the episode rests on how much you're vibing with the tone of it. Like, this episode tells you fairly early on that it's going to be silly. Yeah. Don't take me too seriously.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I'm going to be rolling around on the floor covered in spaghetti sauce. Yeah. And so having experienced that early on, maybe you're able to process the whole puppet thing a little better later. And I think that's intentional. Like set me up with the marinara, knock me down with the puppet. And in that way, I don't hate this episode and I don't think it's bad. And what's more, I want more episodes like this.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I want to meet more weird aliens. I want to land on more planets. The weirder, the better. Isn't it weird that this show is very not alien of the week? Not at all. So far not. And I could use a little bit more of that in my Star Trek lately.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah. Fun episode. Do you want to see what the priority one messages of the week are, Adam? Sure do. I'm gonna go crack open that egg and see what kind of gross P1 spill out. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. I need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. Yeah a supplement on that. A supplement? A supplement. A supplement. Yes, extra.
Starting point is 01:00:28 But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Then our first priority one message is of a commercial nature and it goes like this. Studies show that greatest gen viewers are down for a podcast recapping a reboot of a retro property with a freakishly familiar format. Are you karate kidding me? Follows the CobraKineNetflix series and the karate kid movies. Yes, all of them. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Host Jenny and Colin are your tour guides through the Miyagiverse asking the questions that really matter like, do kicks get chicks. How often can you fake your death? Is Karate Kid canonical back to the future? Wow. You too can become a friend of Miyagi, so to join this particular away team, subscribe to... Are you Karate Kidding me? On Apple Podcasts or your pod catcher of choice or hit us up on Twitter at Karate Kidding me? On Apple Podcast or your pod catcher of choice or hit us up on Twitter at Karate Kid Pod.
Starting point is 01:01:29 This is from Jenny and Colin. Wow. A host. Are you Karate Kidding me? Are you Karate Kidding me? I love that Netflix show, by the way. Cobra Kai is big, big fun. I have only heard good things about that show,
Starting point is 01:01:44 but I have not watched. Do you think I need to rewatch original movies to get into it? I mean, I watched the original movies religiously as a kid, and so I didn't go back to them. I think they were fairly baked into my psyche. In such a way that I didn't need to if you're unfamiliar with the Karate kid expanded universe. Yeah, maybe it does that thing where Where it's very self-aware of itself and its cheesiness and it knows exactly how to
Starting point is 01:02:21 How to play with itself and its characters given at I. I think it's really, really, it's really good. Well, maybe the way to do it is to just go along in order with, are you karate kidding me? Yeah, I think that's the way to do it. You watch the Cobra Kai show on Netflix, and then you subscribe to, are you karate kidding me? Adam, our next priority one message is from Michael and it's to Cooper and it goes like this.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Crazy how sitting at the same table at a group job interview, turned into a solid friendship and the sharing of Star Trek podcast from one slightly embarrassed airplane nerd to another. Nice, hope we can see GGK3, colon STIV live together once everything calms down. Happy probably very belated birthday. May you never forget it, like I, Kern did. Wow. July 16th was the target date on that and we got real close. So Michael, Michael was wise and got the order in way ahead of time. Yeah, nice work, Michael.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Boy, group job interview. Oof, I did one of those once. Did not get job. Yeah, they didn't mention whether they got job, but it sounds like they got friend. They got friend and that's better than job most of the time. Yeah. Ben, our final priority one message is from Jacob. It's to Benjamin and Adam Jemen.
Starting point is 01:03:52 The message goes like this, I started viewing your podcast some time in 2018 and I'm still catching up. Whoa. You've given my brain some friends to talk to. As I watch through the stars' tricks for the first time. Wow. It's 2021 and I'm just getting to your 2020 episodes. Good luck past you.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Thanks for peeing you. Poor one out for Row Laren. Love from South Korea. Jacob doing a P1 from South Korea. Jacob doing a P1 from far away. Wow, thank you, Jacob. And still working through the back catalog. That's fun. So this is going to, uh, Jacob's going to find this one later.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I feel like South Korea has like the greatest pop culture of any country right now. And it feels like a real honor for some of the, someone that lives there to be listening to our silly podcast, you know? Yeah, I think we are as good as any K-pop group at this point. We've got an army that the friends at DeSoto. Yeah, well if you'd like to get a priority one message, no matter where in the world you are, you had to maximumfund.org slash Gembo Tron. Book it now. Get it locked in for 2022.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah, put it in an egg and wait for it to hatch. Yeah, there's a there's special nutrients in the vapor over here that will keep it alive. How I bet you've got nutrients in the vapor over there, Ben. Hey, Ben. Hey Adam. It's that Ben. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Drunk Shimoda! I mean, Nielix is the instigator of the food fight, so I've got to give it to him, like, that he crosses the marinara line. And starts this war. He makes it a hot war between them. That has been cold for too long. I think that you're right. Like, Nielix boiling over was so such a damn breaking. And it felt like such a long time coming. Like in any other context in Star Trek, a character acting that out of control,
Starting point is 01:06:05 you'd have been like, oh, they're under the influence of an alien force or something in the ship's life-support system is like causing everyone to be hostile to each other or something, but like with Nelix it feels really justified. To the extent that everyone else in the mess halt like does not try and get involved and break up the fight, they're like,
Starting point is 01:06:27 oh yeah, they gotta have this out. Yeah. There was something very funny about all the people that were watching and not upset really. They were like, here it goes. There's probably some replicator currency being traded in the back room. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah, you know, Scott Garry is betting some Franks. Haking nod back. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you know, God Gary is betting some Franks taking nods. Yeah. Yeah. Objection noted will do this without. Well, Adam, why don't you head to gach.biz slash game where the sort of morno cleaves hangs over us. And I will tell you about... It's gonna be up to me, isn't it? Star Trek Voyager Season 2 Episode 8, Persistence of Vision. A mysterious force puts the crew in a delusional state
Starting point is 01:07:17 that causes their most deeply buried thoughts and desires to surface. Did you say and desires to surface. Did you say and desires? And desires. Yeah, this is really some naked now vibes from this episode cap. I was thinking the same thing. Are we going to get a Voyager Shimoda?
Starting point is 01:07:38 If we got a Voyager Shimoda, if there's a new Shimoda, that would mean Shimoda doesn't get mentioned in the greatest discovery or the greatest generation anymore. We cannot allow that. We might not have a choice, Adam. I don't know. Wow. We didn't have a choice when Edward Larkin showed up.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I feel like this is a significant moment ahead. And the significance which we will be watching it is governed by the dice that you have in your hands right now. This is almost too much to take. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. One square ahead. The space butthole dragging us back down into an nth degree episode. Three episodes ahead lies Mornhammered. Fuck. Any role greater than a three gets us Mornhammered. A one sends us down to nth degree. A two is the only role that can spare us from certain doom.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Very next episode. Ben, the dies in my hand, I will now roll that die. There's like, you're playing it up, like there's lots of tension, but there's like, really very little tension, because there's outcome in all that certain. Ben I have rolled a four. Wow. Tula! Did I win?
Starting point is 01:09:04 All of it. It has thrown me all the way to square one. And I have rolled a four. Wow. Chula! Did I win? Hardly. It has thrown me all the way to square one. Oh, I jumped this over. We're not doing Mornhammered, man. Wow. That's not how this game works. And it took rolling the dice to realize it. But a four, just one after our 100th square,
Starting point is 01:09:24 the Mornhammered Square, back to one, is where we are. Back to one in a regular old episode. I am shocked, I'm relieved. I bet people are gonna be very surprised by this. I am very surprised by this. I didn't think that's how the game worked. I didn't think it was how the game worked either.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Wow, man. I did it. I did it. You did it. Well done, Adam. Okay. I did not think that this show could continue to surprise me. And it does. I'm just so happy to not be doing a more
Starting point is 01:09:57 than hammered episode next. Yeah. Happy and grateful. Almost as grateful as I am to the friends of DeSoto who make the show possible. Friends of Disodo, go to Maximumfund.org slash join. And pay for the episodes they consume there by signing up for a membership. They do. Sign up to support the show.
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Starting point is 01:11:10 You know a lot of talk this episode about Red Sauce, Red Sauce and Pasta. You know, you could really guide you through the journey of making what some people call the mother sauce on your stove. What people in the sopranos called gravy, a sauce that will dazzle your friends and family where you to make it. Where you to have friends and family.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Adam Rikusi of the Master of All Things Culinary is here to teach you how to do it. Teach all of us, really. How to make all the great foods. Be sure to including Red Sauce. Got a YouTube search for Adam Ragusia. He also made the original theme music for the program riffing off the Picard song by Dark Materie. And with that, we'll be back at you.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Next time with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation voyager that is a little worried about retiring, the Drunk Shemota Drop. It'll never happen, not on my watch. Not gonna happen. Well, that's great. We won't leave them with any suspense, Adam. Showmanship. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Thank you, Adam. You'll lose the car to the youth. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. You'll lose the car to the youth. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. You'll lose the car to cars. Car to cars. Car to cars.
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