The Greatest Generation - Botany Babe (S7E2)

Episode Date: July 12, 2017

When a number of ambassadors for the athleisure movement come aboard, they pair off with crew members while the captain climbs in a suspicious shuttle to their homeworld. But when Picard’s shuttle runs right into a planet and he’s rescued by a space babe, diplomacy is the last thing on anyone’s mind. Why is that roast so hard to cut? Why can Adam do dad jokes with relative impunity? Was remastering Season 7 for HD what broke the studio and caused them not to care? Why is Troi getting a sex ed lesson while that kid is in the room? It’s the episode where Adam does deep research in an effort to keep the show fresh.

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and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranika. I was this day find you Adam.

I always say my name like someone at the like at the host stand of a restaurant. It's like, Adam. Adam? I'm Adam Pranica. Do they usually write down your last name, too? I think that's a good idea when you have a common first name, right? I guess so. Hey, Ben, a little while ago, you were telling me you got recognized out on the streets. Was there a story there?

Not much of a story. My dog actually got recognized. And the guy said that he liked the podcast as well. But he'd seen lots of pictures of Darwin on the internet. Was it hurtful that your dog was the first one to be recognized? No, I was actually kind of surprised because it was dumping rain that day. And my wife and I were down at the farmers market buying some odds and ends for the week.

And Darwin did not look like himself. He looked very be dragiled because of the weather. So the fact that I'm blinking on the fellow's name right now, but they said they're coming to one of our live shows when we go on tour so I'll I'll have an opportunity to relearn his name Dogs a fucking star man. I know he's got ten times as much star power as anybody I know What what was his origin story? Have you told that on the pod before? Like, how did you find him?

How did you become his forever friend? My wife used an app called Petfinder, which it's like Tinder for pets, right? Yeah, you can swipe right and swipe left, which, you know, swiping left on a dog that needs to be adopted is maybe the cruelest thing that any app has ever asked anybody to do. But yeah, he was totally just a lucky find and he, I guess, was born in Georgia and there's a lot of, like we meet around our neighborhood, a lot of dogs that came from southern states and get trucked up to northern states for adoption. They're trucked up, like the image in my head is like the chicken truck full of little

cages. I hope that's not the case for little doggies. That's sort of what I picture too. I mean, I think that it's because there's so many more kill shelters in the south, but that's not based on any expertise, just kind of like a big memory of. Just a low-level interest in execution in some parts of the country. Yeah, I do, yeah. I don't know, man, I'm sure it's just some bullshit. But yeah, he's great. He's the greatest. So does Darwin have to swipe right on you as well? Like, how do you get from, hey, this dog seems cool to,

let's go meet the dog to, let's bring the dog home. I don't know. My wife may have shielded me from a lot of the bureaucratic parts of this. I'm getting a really great understanding of that of you and your wife's relationship and what you keep the other from knowing about your interests. It's about keeping the other person happy and sane in our marriage. We have some friends that have been trying to adapt a dog here in Brooklyn

and they're having a hell of a time where they write a letter of application and they need to provide references and the adoption people send somebody out to their apartment to inspect the premises and make sure it looks good. Which is a level of scrutiny that I admire, but I am also like completely blown away that there's enough resources to spend on doing it, given how little of that we had to go through especially. Right. Right.

Well, I'm sure Darwin's happy that they don't do super deep background checks. Yeah. background checks. Yeah, my, so my wife was there when this happened and so she told her mom and my mother-in-law thinks that the dog is a huge celebrity. Now, it's like there's nothing that brings her more joy than to think about Darwin as being a major internet celebrity. Well, you're almost the sort of owner that is set up social media accounts for your dog. That's quick. That's quite Adam. Well, one way to pivot from this into the episode today is that sometimes the care and feeding of someone or something in your care can go horribly wrong

sometimes it can end in a lifetime of joy for both cared for and career so with that maybe we turn our attention towards season 7, episode 2. liaisons. ["Furniture of every star piece officer into the truth, find it in truth, or a historical truth, or best from truth." This episode starts with Worf getting pretty for a diplomatic greeting. They're gonna go down to the shuttle bay and meet some ambassadors.

I don't believe this. You're going to put that thing on and parade around like one of them. So Worf is putting on his his dress uniform. Kind of like you know getting ready for prom vibes a little bit. He's got he's got a fancy sash, fancier than normal. Yeah. It looks a little scarfie, silky. We got to show off his wealth. That's what you do. Raker comes in. Why what is this attitude? Ed, I really like their little interaction here. They're going to be here any minute. I'm having problems. Warf complains about the Starfleet dress uniform being a feminine. I do not see why it it is necessary to wear these ridiculous uniforms. They look like dresses and Riker kind of scolds him that is an incredibly outmoded and sexist attitude, but then like bussist chops also besides you look good in a dress

There's two things happening here to me one is that I like hearing One is that I like hearing people talk about the inside baseball of their jobs. Like, it doesn't matter if it's on a TV show or anything else. Like, I like hearing that. But the other thing happening here is it's setting up the rules for the episode. And if the main characters aren't taking their job seriously, then the viewer is going to have a hard time doing that as well. And so, like when you start with kind of a slight wistily, wharf just can't get his uniform

on right. Klingons do not procrastinate. You already know that you're in for something a little less than Sirius ahead. It's a lighter episode for sure. I did really like Reikers' comments about gender normative, costuming, W-slash-R-slash-T, ambassadorial visits. Yeah, I think Reikers is the kind of guy you can hang with because he's like woke, but he's also not going to let it ruin a fun time. He's woke, but he's not going gonna let it ruin a fun time, you know? He's woke, but he's not gonna let it ruin a insult to a friend.

Right. And I'm the same way. Like, we cut a lot of what I say out of this show because a lot of times I'm not gonna let it stop me from a big laugh. Right here in Worf's shop a little late to the arrival of this shuttle pod and I guess the shuttle has been like hanging out in the cargo bay or whatever Shuttle bay for a while like the card is like when are these guys gonna come out of this shuttle that and I made me think the same thing. It was it sort of like When you're flying commercial and you get to the gate and you're just waiting for the door to get open

It seems like the door opens from the inside on this shuttle. I don't know what they're waiting for. Yeah, it seems weird. Did this shuttle look familiar to you? It didn't, but I think you're about to tell me why it should. I don't know this for sure, but I could have sworn that that door was the same door that they had on the shuttle in the final Wesley as a main cast character episode. Oh. Final mission, is that what it's called? Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Because they had that guy with the alcoholic guy with the busted shuttle. You would make a lot of sense to use that shuttle also because of what happens later with the shuttle crash. Maybe they should just- Yeah, they should have looked at this door and been like, we're not putting our captain on that thing. Boom, we can't get fooled again.

Isn't it strange that like, captain of the flagship of the fleet is like hitching all these rides on other people's shuttles? I mean, American political executives don't fly on third world countries commercial airliners, you know? Like there's sort of a sort of a safety control aspect to play there. And we have some implication that there may be runabouts available on the enterprise. Like that's a full featured starship. They couldn't fit it in the garage though. It's just a floater now.

Wait, so they were just going to take that back to the entrepreneur, but not actually a pocket on the entrepreneur? That's what I thought. I mean, you never see it again, I don't think. Well, it get blowed up. Yeah. It has splod when they have it cross the beam. Oh, that's right. They lucked out. They didn't have to find a place for it.

Yeah, it's like when you like, you know, they had a valley and shuttle bay one, like scrambling to move bunk beds around, trying to make room. Yeah. Are you going to take this or make me wait? It's like when your wife plans a dinner out for you guys in a busy part of town on a

Saturday night and you drive over there and there's just no parking but then your car explodes. So you're like, oh cool, problem solved. I love it when that happens. Yeah, it's the best. So when the ERRans pop out of their shuttle, it is immediately clear that the crew has overdressed because they're wearing sort of a dark gray, rustle athletic sweatpants and sweatshirt combination.

They are full health guff. Yeah, they really are. These guys are ready for yoga, they're ready to, you know, hit brunch in a pre or post workout type of situation. None of them are wearing a sash. They give the impression of being like a very boring species. Like they're all dudes with the same haircut and the same sweatsuit combo. There is no room for flair or customization

on these uniforms either. That would sort of indicate some personality. There's no broaches. Yeah, they also have like extremely generic loaf. It's just kind of like, they're kind of aliens. Yeah. Let's put some crap on their forehead. Like three white brown haired guys.

Very inventive. Yeah. So Picard is in his action jacket. He is not in formal wear, which, you know, like that caught my eye, but this is because Picard is going to be going with the yarns to their planet to see what's up with them. It's not just like a diplomatic visit, it's like a cultural exchange program. And those always go really well, historically, for the crew. We have a rich history of them being great. I wonder if Riker got taken off of Cultural Exchange duty after the Gach incident where

he ended up murdering a Klingon bridge crewman and turning down a date with a very fetching looking Klingon woman. That took a lot of restraint on Riker's part I think. Cultural exchange of fluids is what that was. The yarns are getting paired off like there's a shorter one named Luke Well and he gets paired off with Councillor Troy and then there's a taller one named Byleth and he gets paired off with Riker but he's just been introduced to Wurf and he's like, I don't want Riker. I want this one. And Michael Dorn really has a lot of fun

with the discomfort his character experiences in this episode. And this might be my favorite moment because he kind of looks from Riker to the captain and back to Baileth and is like, I don't know. And Picard tries to save his bacon here. He's like,

Well, Commander Riker is a skilled diplomat with wide experience in interspecies contact. By this is like, no, I've made my decision. I want this lieutenant warf. It's sort of like a reverse playground dodgeball draft scene. Like, when instead of wanting to be picked, warf is back there like like fading into the periphery, trying not to become noticed.

But this guy wants him on his team real bad. Do you think Picard was like contemplating going like, well, like you can, we can give you Wurf, but you won't be able to see any parts of the ship because he can't get through any of the doors. Look, I know Wurf looks like he's the most interesting, but if you want to get to understand our ship and our culture sexually, Writers really the only guy who can teach you. Yeah, the, I mean like spoiler alert, but the ERs really picked wrong.

Yeah. Yeah, they kind of did. How could they know by looking at Riker, though? Yeah, so Picard and Vovall, the shuttle pilot, hit the bricks and we smashed to theme song. We come back and they're having a pretty party in 10 forward. They've got like a big spread out lots of different food, you know fried chicken stuffed into rice peel off sushi the student is piling his plate up the ER and ambassador

low-quail and what's the best buffet food? Like when you go through the buffet line. What's what's the 100% hit rate for you? Well, I've thought a lot about this actually because when we were planning our wedding, I had just been to a wedding where the dinner served was barbecue because we were in St. Louis. Oh. And it made a big impression on me because what occurred

to me as I was eating this like totally amazing like better than any wedding meal I've ever had meal was barbecue is made to be in hot plates like when you go to a barbecue restaurant it is served in a way that is not terribly dissimilar from a wedding buffet there's like metal trays full of shredded meat or ribs or whatever, and there's a heat source underneath and the food tastes amazing all the time. Yeah, why does the wedding industrial complex try to cram single serving food? Why do they try to scale that for a giant crowd when group food like barbecue is perfect for groups?

Yeah, like you're never going to get a salmon filet, right? In a hot plate situation, whereas barbecue tacos, like there's foods that work in this context. And it's because they've been like designed around this context. We did tacos at my wedding for that very reason. It was like, it was a good compromise because there were going to be lots and lots of people of the Jewish persuasion. So barbecue is not necessarily the right move for that context, but tacos are great because you can have like

all of the kinds of meat and also not meat, and there's like tons of stuff for everybody. It's totally mix and match. tons of stuff for everybody. It's totally mix and match. Yeah, two of the best weddings that I've been to in terms of food, especially were taco and barbecue weddings. Like highest recommendation. Yeah, so if you're out there, and this has been Star Trek Wedding Cast, those are Ben and Adam's wrecks. There's some of the food that we see in 10 forward here is like familiar food done up in an unfamiliar way. Like the peach cobbler is in a punch bowl sort of format.

It's in like a shepherdepherds pie. Yeah. Container. Yeah, it's big and it's up. And then there's a giant chocolate ball at the end too. I could kind of fuck with a peach cobbler that deep though. Yeah. I mean, I guess what it throws off is probably the... The crust is the best part.

The topping to filling ratio. Yeah. And Troy is sort of the buffet line escort for La Quelle. La Quelle, I guess, knows so little about the federation or its people that this is a way for him to understand our people. Deserts, what is this? He's doing a buffet strategy that I really fuck with,

which is just taking a little bit of everything. Yeah. Because like, you take a little bit of everything, you can kind of graze around and then go back to the buffet for the good shit. You know, like, okay, that rib was good. Those shrimp were good. The sushi sucked. Look, well, just not prescribed sushi sucked, I'm gonna go back and pile up.

Look, well, just strive to the, I don't like my food's touching way of thinking. Like, he is touching his food's big time. Yeah, touch that food look well, you do you. Be a nasty little diplomat, you. He also, like, his openness to trying new things and trying a lot of it it makes him just a real pleasant person to be around at this point in the story. Troy is just amused by him and he's a little

bit childlike in that way. Yeah, this guy becomes maybe the perfect rival for Troy because she introduces him to the concept of dessert. Oh, it's something we eat after the main course. It's usually very sweet, it's usually very bad for you. We eat it purely for pleasure. Which is alien to him. Like he is only familiar with food as a sustenance thing

and not as a thing that one can drive pleasure from. So he takes a deep dive on the kind of hedonistic side of having a replicator and really gets down on some chocolate. The Ripon and the Terran. The Ripon and the Terran. He does a buffet power move, which is describing an entire tray of cupcakes at the end. Like tray and all. You're not supposed to take the tray. Like, it's understood that you can take as much as you want out of a buffet, but you can't take the tray. Like, it's understood that you can take as much as you want out of a buffet, but you can't take the utensils.

This would only fly if your caterers were like party down. Yeah. Like Adam Scott is not gonna notice if you take all the cupcake. Are we having fun yet? And if he did, he wouldn't care. Yeah. Ken Marino would care.

He would care a lot. Yeah, but he's like falling apart in the corner somewhere like he's trying to pitch his franchise soup place to to somebody. Best of screwing up poultry, not coffee franchise in all of Southern California. Oh man, RSVP party down. Yeah. You know who would fucking notice is Veronica Mars. She is not putting up with that shit. You can't be a leader and a friend. You're just referring to things that you want to throw drops in for. That's what you're doing.

No. Mitch, I know you, man. When you say no like that, you really mean yes. Dead to rights at him. You got me. Lequelle stands in complete contrast to the ambassador that Wurf is the handler for. And... Byleth. And Byleth is being a huge ass.

He's basically treating Wurf like a valet or a servant. He's not down with a buffet food. He's asking Wurf to give him more. Even though Beverly is there to just sort of soften the growing conflict between them That's not why let this the kind of guy that stops in an airport to get his shoes shined and then is it dick to the shoe shying guy and then tips badly Yeah, there's no question that by let this a bad tipper Yeah He he he wants Wharf to go back to to get him Yeah, there's no question that Bialeth is a bad tipper. Yeah.

He wants Wharf to go back to get him more meat or something. And Wharf goes back to the buffet and finds the roast and is like cutting off a slab of it and data comes up and he's like, hey, how's it going with, you're like kind of newfound and baccidorial duties. What's up with that? I have heard that in moments of diplomatic tension, it is often helpful to find elements of commonality.

Wurf is hacking into this roast and taking what looks to be like a two inch slice out of it. Wurf is having trouble cutting this meat. And like, I think that there's a few scenarios of what's going on here. One is it's badly cooked meat, so it's not soft enough. One is the knife hasn't been sharpened recently, which is like, come on, like this is 10 forward, this is the flagship, like you guys should have good knives.

This buffet is not Galaxy class. Yeah, and then the third option is that there's like, like he's cutting off two big of pieces, and there's like too much friction Between the knife and the meat. I think the roast instead has become sort of like a boxers heavy bag Like I think he's taking it out on the roast Like he has got an incredible amount of frustrations and It's making him feel better to just hack at this piece of meat because he can't hack at his ambassador. Well, he complains about how this is going to data.

Master Byleth is demanding temperamental and rude and data is like, well, you guys should get along great because you're all of those things, Worf. The best parts of data's personality are when he's making fun of someone and he doesn't know that he's doing that. It's usually the reverse, right? Like, it's usually people make fun of another person without them knowing they're being made fun of. Yeah. It's like, uh, insult inversion. of. Yeah. It's like insult inversion. Yeah, I mean, this can be data too. Like, he can be that guy like show the new guy around at work? Or we have a new student today class Ben would you like to make this person feel comfortable?

That's not an easy spot to be in either, even when the new person is super chill. Yeah, because it's hard to know like, I don't know. I feel like you know, you know what you know, but you don't know what the other person knows. Yeah. It's hard to, it's hard to like synthesize what some good like entry level information is. Yeah. Did you notice that there are four writing credits on this episode? I did. Not typically a good sign. No. So our B story, which I guess is sort of an alt A.

Like it's hard to tell what is the A and what is the B in terms of importance. Though I guess in terms of whose life is being threatened, we should probably call this the A story. Picard and his ER and caretaker have run into some shuttle problems and they need to ditch. They ran right into a planet. It's weird, right?

Like they're just flying along and then bam, planet. What would they have done if the planet hadn't been there? Like, yeah, like I don't really understand what, I guess you would just be a drift, but it makes it seem like they're gonna crash and they pick a planet that's good to crash on, right? They're hardly ever adrift on this show. Yeah, they should become be calmed more often.

They should become bejagged. Yeah, so they crash on this planet and Vovol, the shuttle pilot is in pretty rough shape. Picard takes out- You'd expect better safety features from a Volvo. No. Why do I get in trouble for those things when you don't? Because my jokes are above the law.

I've been feeling like doing dead jokes because I think they're like funny as a meta joke construction on this show. It's made like everybody on Twitter think that all of my jokes are dead jokes, whether or not they are. Or even just like statements, like I'll say like, oh,

I'm making a good grilled cheese today and people will be like, come on, dad. You've really cultivated a rep that's not in your control anymore. It sucks. I've started to question my own sanity. Like, no, that wasn't a dad joke, that was just a joke. Whereas I've cultivated a reputation

of just being a generally bad person. So I think you're doing okay. Picard takes off his action jacket and makes a little pillow for the highly incapacitated vulval. And he runs out of the pod looking for help. He's like detected a structure and energy readings away from where they're at and is hoping that he can go get help. Ben, it appears this shuttle has crashed on planet anybody Canyon. Anybody!

Like, you get it a little bit of it from afar. Is that same purple? It's the same rocks. So there's a lot of mist, which anybody canion was replete with. And he's like walking and a lightning bolt like gets between a bunch of rocks that he's standing in between.

And he gets zapped. They do that thing where he gets zapped and they do a little bit of a cut to and slow-ish motion, throwback, like actor on a jerk cable style effect. The sort of action scene that Marina Circus would break a cock-ex-doing. There's a weird mistake in this episode where you see some hands come down and like get Picard by the shoulders as he's like lying past out on the ground.

And the camera then pans up and it shows the shadow of somebody not dragging somebody away. Like they clearly like meant to get just the stooped over shadow of the person and imply that this person is dragging Picard. The frame is just a little bit too wide and you see that the person is not dragging anything. Yeah, it's like an interesting composition that doesn't actually work for the story. Like it's a continuity error on the action in favor of composition instead. Is this because they know that it's gonna be,

like when you're shooting for old television, for standard definition television, you've got an area of the frame that is considered action safe and an area of the frame that's considered title safe. And title safe means like, it's like, you know, a couple of concentric boxes. And if you're putting some words on the screen, you want them to be within the title safe region because you know that they're not going to get cut off at the edge of somebody's television. Right. And the action safe is like you know that they're not going to get cut off at the edge of somebody's television.

Right. And the action safe is a little bit bigger than that. And I'm wondering if that, if this mistake is in there because they're assuming that we're not going to be able to see all the way to the edge of the frame. Maybe. I mean, I was shocked to read recently that in this era of television and shooting on film, like you aren't even seeing as a DP and HD image. Like, it's got to be so hard to pull critical focus like that. That's why they're using measurements, right?

Yeah, I mean, they use measurements and you can also look through the IP which is an optical. An optical HD. Yeah. It's not even HD. It's like you're looking through the actual lens when you look through the IP. Right. But yeah, like a weird mistake and it seems like for the HD remaster like go ahead and you know scale that shot a little bit and make that scene work. Yeah, they had the room and they've, they've improved other scenes throughout the show up until now during the remaster. So that's strange. It's weird that they let that slip. Maybe by the time they got to season seven, they just got tired of the project been. They started, they stopped caring as much. That'd be weird.

Might be the case. I don't understand that. I am a cute is a ball. You will assist us. I am a cute is a ball. You are a ball. Back in the entrepreneur, we've got a few scenes with like worth taking his ambassador around

and Troy taking her ambassador around. Warf is being an asshole. This is when Troy's ambassador encounters a child, which is really exciting for him, because his species leaps fully formed from their father's foreheads or something. Ben, say you gotta take a meeting with someone, maybe they're a client,

maybe they're even just a friend of a friend. Like there's a baseline amount of studying that you might do as an ambassador before meeting a new race, right? It doesn't appear that the ERNs did any studying at all, because if you were to look up human beings on Wikipedia, I feel like method of reproduction and offspring are fairly high up on the list of things that may. It could be. Humans unique.

One of the bullet points that they cover. Yeah, I don't think LeQuel really did any studying at all before this mission. Because he is shocked to see a little boy. What is this? It's a child. Child? By the same token, I don't think that the Starfleet people did any studying either.

Yeah. They seem to have zero ideas about what life for an ER in is like. Ambassador, I'm curious. How does your species procreate? Which is why they're so unprepared for the, like what is going on here. It's so weird, like how do they know the amount of importance to give a situation if they haven't done any of the pre-work involved in a diplomatic mission? Like the yarns could be really cool

and have really neat stuff or be really dangerous, but to figure that all out on the fly seems strange. Right. And like, you know, if you don't know them that well, like you don't, like, Worf does take one of them down to the fucking engineering deck and show them how the ship works. Yeah. Like what if they turn out to be assholes? Which one of them clearly is?

The one that he's taking there. He walks up the dirty and he's like, are you smarter than this idiot? Was it strange to you that the mean E-R-N was mean to the two black characters in the crew? And then the nice E-R-. acted super weird to the black kid. I did notice that. Their interactions with them felt strangely not racially motivated, but clearly the people

they're having an interaction with are black. One character is being super mean to two of them. Yeah, I think that, I think what's weird about it is that there is this kind of like thing that goes off in your head. And it felt like there was a lot of weird energy sent at the black characters in this episode that wasn't necessary. Like it could have been dealt with in other, like they could have gotten the same point,

point across without having it always happen to involve it being uncomfortable for the black people on the ship. Yeah, it was a weird energy between them. And speaking of the amount of the lack of research that look well put in, like he also didn't know that you're not supposed to just offer kids dessert. Yeah, like, kids you don't know especially. Yeah, would it be proper for me to invite this child to hang out in my van? Yeah, mom seems pretty cool though. Like, the mom is a front zip with no rank pips of any kind. And she's like,

What does that mean? Yeah, I was like, who is this lady? If you're totally pipless, that means you are sub-entern level, right? Yeah, I think like an ensign is like a, is like a sergeant, right? It's like a non-commissioned officer. So I guess maybe she's just an enlisted crew person.

She's a soldier. She's like private first class front zip. She's a red shirt, so maybe she's just a body. She's just an away team body person. If we need to send somebody into a perilous situation, we keep a bunch of you around. Sorry about your mom, Timmy. You see, she didn't have any pips.

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So she is a human lady who crashed there seven years ago. Seven years. Like, he gives out, we learned learned how the star dates work on a Recent Bible study Adam and she's been there since star date 40812 Which means she's been there since before the series started. Oh my Like Captain Picard was probably getting court martial for losing the stargazer in in action when when she got stranded on this point. Wow, that really puts things in perspective. Yeah.

You know, she sort of has a riker beta reveal like when you're alone by yourself for a long time and you interact with people for the first time in seven years, there's going to be there's going to be some difficulty there, I think. You can all want whoever's seeing you for the first time to see years. There's gonna be, there's gonna be some difficulty there, I think. You can all want whoever's seeing you for the first time to see very specific parts of you and where you've been living. She has taken better care of her clothes than Riker Beta.

Yeah. Taken just generally better care of herself, I think. She and Riker Beta, I bet, would have a lot to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Why didn't, you keep Riker Beta, I bet, would have a lot to talk about? Yeah. Yeah. Why didn't... You keep Riker Beta around for maybe these kind of missions, right?

She'd make a better counselor than Troy. So she's like really relieved to... Riker's counselor couch is like the black leather porn couch. Hahaha. Hahaha. like the black leather porn couch. Why don't you sit right there and I'll turn on these lights. Then we'll talk about your seven years in that container ship trailer. Yeah. She gets the wood's light with the ultraviolet filter on it. Maybe time to replace this thing, sorry. Here's the thing, you get to know her trivia as being down there for seven years as someone

who has not spoken out loud for fear of seeming crazy to herself. She is playing barely hinged, but she doesn't seem crazy right now. No, I mean, like her performance is really cool because she is having a tough time kind of getting a sentence out in a rhythm that seems practiced. And that was such a fun acting trick to me. I thought yeah This is actresses name is Barbara Williams and She was in a movie as recently as 2013 in the film White House down Hmm. I actually enjoyed that movie. Yeah, I like any like any movie like that. I mean

What if we made a heist movie But the heist location was the White House I got bad news for you. There's another studio doing that exact premise. Don't care. We're doing it There was room enough for two asteroid movies and there's room enough for two White House heist movies roll a Demarek Of a Independence Day fame. Yeah two asteroid movies and there's room enough for two White House ice movies. Roll a Demarick of Independence Day fame. Yeah. Did White House down.

Yeah. Better than Olympus has fallen. Yeah. Boy, Olympus was fallen. Was a fucking splatter fest. Yeah, and the one that got this equal for some reason. Hehehe. Hardly countably, the one that got the sequel for some reason I'm just countably the one that got a follow-up

How did you predict that there is a great McLaughlin group? If you want where Worf is just trying to like vent steam from his system It is the should Worf murder a diplomat McLaughlin group hacking the ambassador murder a diplomat McLaughlin group. Hacking. The ambassador. He's being hyper specific about the way in which he's going to disembowel the person he's been asked to escort around the ship. I won't take him by the strength. I can rip out his ass off against that.

Awesome. Got another threat rear thing. In a way that in a lot of workplace contexts could be problematic. Yeah. You can't just say stuff like that. No, especially not to your boss. Yeah. He's there with Troy and Riker, like Troy and Warfare,

I guess, there to give an update on how the diplomatic mission is going. And I like also that in this episode we get to see Riker being a good boss. He's like, why don't we do a game of poker? Because then, you know, it's not just all on your shoulders, Worf to keep this guy entertained. And it'll give him, you know, some optics on another like thing that we do all the time on this ship. And that'll be, that'll be fun. But also like it'll maybe satisfy whatever it is making him such a prick. I think you probably learned that from Picard who has sort of become known for not letting

crew people off the hook and just sort of making it work as far as their interpersonal relationships go. Yeah, like don't make this my problem. But I mean, it's almost cooler than what Picard would do because Picard would just say like report back to me when you have solved your interpersonal issue. Yeah, Picard would actually play the poker game the way Riker is. Exactly. Yeah, so I respect that.

So at this poker game, you get the gang together. You get look well and Troy, you get Byleth and Warf and you get Riker. And you get to see their differences in even starker contrast because they're together. Laquelle is just going to town on some Reese's peanut butter cups. Do you know they had to feed him something other than chocolate because he was allergic to chocolate? So whatever it is he's eating, isn't that? They went down to the health food store

and got him some carrot treats. Yeah, I think that's the deal. Adam, I'm shocked that you would do research that deep. That's not that deep. That's not that deep. That's super deep. Come on. You know what the guy's eating on screen? All right. That's fairly deep.

I'm trying to keep it entertaining and fresh, Ben. How do you keep the show fresh after seven seasons? Maybe you do a little research from time to time. Yeah. It feels fun and new to me every time, Adam. And that's because you find new ways to make it zesty. Byleth in this scene is doing something that is unforgivable, which is stealing Worf's chips at the poker table.

In Byleth's defense, Worf's pile is way out over to the side that Bylet is on. Like, it is not directly in front of Worf by any means. You're not wrong about Worf needing to keep care of his chipset and like keeping it in front of him ideally. Yeah. Also, stack your shit up worth like What's this loose ass pile about?

Yeah, you're supposed to make stacks and you're supposed to keep it in front of your cup holder That's how a table gets set for poker But his chips are all willy nilly, but still that doesn't forgive byleth Sneaking chips from him and also also sneaking chips while making like super intense eye contact with Wharf. It's like, it's like Sam Jackson taking that guy's Soty Pop and in a pulp fiction. He is not trying to sneak chips.

He is showing his intense disrespect for Wharf. It's doubly disrespectful to like, in the order of poker wolf has raised and byleth uses wolf's chips to raise back. There's something even more insulting about that. Yeah and it causes wolf to boil over like they stand up and they like and and by leth is like come on man Treat me like I'm anybody like let's let's leave rank aside. I know you like to do this. Yeah and Worf starts whooping his ass and

By leth is like so kinked out about this He's like he like licks his two fingers and such rub rubbing his nipples. He's like oh yeah keep hitting me. He gets tossed back there and he's like looking for glass tables to go through He's like over here dwarf over here. Do me into this table You know I like it. And Wurf gets, gets several melee combats with him. Like it's not just the one and then he gets held back. Like he gets a second time before Riker thinks to get up from the table and sort of half-nelson him. Which I thought was great. Like what I wanted was the cutaway back to R up from the table and sort of half-nelson him. Which I thought was great.

What I wanted was the cutaway back to Riker at the poker table, to sort of, at what point should I involve myself in this? Yeah, like taking one last sip of his whiskey or something before. That's always a great cut in any bar fight scene is the guy that, like, finishes his drink before involving himself in the action. Yeah. The one-out that's missing from this bar fight is a chair broken over someone's back. And I was expecting that chair to get broken over a wharf.

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Like, Worf should be in big trouble here. Like, he struck a diplomat over and over and over again. And just because the other guy wanted it, like, I still don't think that's right, right? Yeah, you gotta have more self-control than that. Especially when your boss is there, be like, you see what I'm putting up with, right? Like, can we, can we like find a way as an organization to deal with this? Especially when your boss is there be like you see what I'm putting up with right like

Can we can we like find a way as an organization to deal with this because it's just completely insane? Yeah I will say though like this is what I want out of war more often like unhinged warf is a ton of fun How fun. Yeah. Yeah. So back on the planet surface, Picard and Anna, the stranded woman, are working on some plans to get free. Like, she comes back from the shuttle

with some communications equipment, and he's like, this shit is melted. It looks like it's been hit with a phaser. Why would it be hit with a phaser? And she's like, I used a phaser to cut it free. You think I damaged it when I did that? And he's like, yeah, we can't use this now. This is the first indication that Picard may be getting miseryed. Something about this is not adding up. This was her only chance. This was the first indication that Picard may be getting miseryed. Like, something about this is not adding up. Like this was her only chance, this is where her first best chance to get off the planet. And she did not treat the situation I'll take good care of you. I'm your number one fan. She is playing for...

I am... so horrified at what I have done. But it seems weird. And it... continues to seem weird. And... Eventually she's like on the floor kneeling in front of him... saying... that she loves him and

that she doesn't want to ever be alone again and she like pulls her into him and into her and gives him a big kiss. And he is basically gobsmacked at this news. He's acting like a guy for whom this has happened to a lot, but I still don't get the sense this has happened to him a lot, you know? He's like, baby, baby, chill out. There's enough of me to go around. Well, yeah, like he's, so he's like really badly injured.

He's, I guess, supposed to have some like broken ribs. And so he like, he can't really move around. She can, she's, she's able to run errands for him and feed him and stuff, but he has to take her word for a lot of stuff. And he started to lose faith in her because he's discovered that she's locking him into the botany bay whenever she leaves. And there's some things about her story that don't make a ton of sense.

It's not a good indicator of like, it's not a good first step to any relationship when the door locks from the outside, right? I would say it's what you call a super bad sign, Adam. So Picard has this hockey puck on him, like on his thorax. And any time he tries to touch it at Shoxam, and he's been told that he's got broken ribs, and this thing is keeping them together. And it doesn't look too great around the wound site.

It looks like it's bruised and puffy. Yeah, I like the writing on that, because like broken ribs is like, I don't know if you've ever broken a rib, but it is a really painful experience. And yet, it doesn't really track from what happened to him injury-wise. Like getting lightning and falling over backwards does not quite seem like a breaking a rib level,

you know, kind of impact. So it kind of like your mental grammar check kind of catches it when she explains that to him at the beginning of the episode. Yeah. And by the end when the rest of her story is seeming crazy, like you you feel like yeah, like this is nuts. And so he like rips the thing off and it turns out this thing was was cultivating the pain in his belly. Yeah, this puck was the sledgehammer for misery. Like, she was keeping him injured to keep him there. Yeah. Why, why Adam would a stranded woman have such a hockey puck?

I don't know, maybe that's what the cargo ship was transporting. We're taking these pain pucks to the yarns. They'll pay handsome way for them. Oh, fuck yeah, oh it hurts so much. Oh, baby. Seven years on a diet of only roots and a truckload of hockey pucks. It's not a great life. That's a recipe for insanity, I think. Yeah, this is like the story of a Canadian and a Japanese soldier stranded on a Pacific island in World War II. Yeah.

She freaks out when he rips out the hockey puck. She runs out of the ship and locks the door behind her. And he finds, there's like a crowbar in there, which is great. And he goes over and he's like trying to open the door. And he hears somebody outside. And he opens, he gets the person outside to open the door. And it's Voval.

Every time I drive my Vombo, literally, he'll say, Oh, the ship. Voval appears uninjured drive my Volvo, literally, he'll take ownership. Voval appears uninsured. Yeah, the shuttle pilot. He's like, yeah, like, it seems weird. I saw a lady running out of here. She seems pretty, uh, reclimped.

Do you think she might perhaps jump off of that huge cliff over there? And Picard's like, yeah, she could be heading to jump off that huge cliff over there. And Voval's like, well, we better go get her then. Don't you think? The cards like, yeah, I guess we should. So they run over to the cliff. And this is like unmistakable anybody canyons situation. You could call it been Annabody Canyon

What you're not seeing is me stare off into the middle distance with like that self-satisfied riker smile like My mind came up with that That's it my mind did that's your mind came up with that to keep you sane. Yeah Anna is standing at the edge of the cliff. And she's getting ready to jump and pick her like, you know, it does the, the like, you don't have to do this. They're, you know, your family will be so upset if you do it. I found the shuttle pilot. Like, maybe we can get out of here.

And then he's like, wait a second. You know, come to think of it. I've never seen you and the shuttle pilot, like maybe we can get out of here. And then he's like, wait a second. You know, come to think of it, I've never seen you and the shuttle pilot in the same room at the same time. And also I broke your necklace earlier, why are you wearing it again? I mean, I didn't wanna talk about it too much at first, but this necklace was a dead giveaway for me.

Like I noticed it when the guy got out of the shuttle in the shuttle bay in the first scene and I noticed that she had it on her necklace. This like weird brooch and I was just like yeah like same same person. Obviously, Vovil is a lot hotter as Ana but other than that same person. Yeah that special kind of unhinged heart. But it's just so attractive. Anna is kind of looking past Picard's accusation saying, say you love me, say you love me, and let's do love.

I really want to do love with you. And he will not relent. And she turns into, she fades out and fades back in as Vovlo and he's like, I have failed in my mission. That's great Vovlo voice. Got that Vovlo voice. You know, you can get a Vovlo voice for like, almost the same price by actually going over to Sweden,

and they'll like ship it, you know, you get to drive it. Oh yeah, you get to tour the Volvo voice factory. Yeah, it's a better deal than you think it should be. It's like a free trip to Europe, free trip to Sweden, and then you come home and you've got a Volvo voice. That sounds great. Vovals like my whole deal was to make you fall in love with me because this is like,

how does he explain this band? He's like, the three of us in this crew of ambassadors were assigned different aspects of human emotion. To see. and I've designed different aspects of human emotion to see. This is a scene that I will describe as Daeus exposition Makina. Yeah.

Where all of the dramatic tension of the episode is released by a character just explaining what has been going on the entire time. Yeah. Like this planet really did have a lady stranded on it and a dude really did crash land, and they fell in love, and like, she wrote a diary about this bodice ripper-y storyline. And the ERians found her bodice ripper, and didn't understand the concepts of pleasure and

antagonism and love. And so the three, Vovl, it turns out, is in fact a diplomat himself, and they came to the Federation to explore the ideas of pleasure and antagonism and love, and they like divided it up. So that one got one emotion, one got the other emotion, one got the other emotion, and Vovol was supposed to be love. He was supposed to bang Captain Picard to find out how love is. And this explains why the other two guys were acting the way they were. And Picard is like, okay, well, this is definitely a kind of diplomacy, I guess, but not where I come from. I love how he describes it as a crime.

Like, what you've done is a criminal act to us. And Volvul's like, another word that we shall have to explore by doing. Yeah. The last scene in the episode is like Picard coming back on board the ship and saying like, well, it was really like interesting to get to know you guys and to learn about how directly you guys take your learning about things. But I'm really glad to be home. The end. Did you like the episode Adam?

Man, that's a great question. I mean, I know that this is a question we ask each other at the end of every episode, but when I saw the episode I wasn't sure after talking about it, I wasn't sure. It's a real scene's, it's real sceny. And it's never serious. And I think that maybe what makes the episode fall on the side of, of not liking the episode for me.

Because I like this, I like things to be taken a little more seriously. And I guess every scene with Picard and Anna was more comical instead of lethal to me. Like what makes misery so terrifying is how honest both sides are playing their part. The stakes seem extremely high. and for as great as the portrayal is that the actress who plays Anna is doing, like I never felt her danger. And maybe I wanted to get a little more dangerous there, even though like Anna is actually vocal and at no point was Volvo ever going to actually like harm Picard. The viewer doesn't know that. Yeah.

So I think I could have used a little more tension there. I mean, it's fun to see Picard and Anna together, but everything else I thought could be taken or left. So I'm going to say, didn't really like it. What about you? I think what I like about it is that it feels like a season one episode premise, but is executed more skillfully. Like it's a season one episode premise with the kind of like character development and and worn in feeling of a season seven. episode premise with the kind of like character development and and

Worn-in feeling of a season seven We're like oh, yeah like this show can be like a little bit corny and and light and I don't mind like I don't have any bad feelings about watching a corny and light episode of Star Trek like that's one of the things I like about Star Trek and I episode of Star Trek, like that's one of the things I like about Star Trek. And I, you know, I don't think that this is a mountain episode, but like the light episodes I feel like often get looked past as like dumb, but that like it is it is that like comfortable pair of sweatpants for me. This episode feels like the costumes that the ERians are wearing.

You could really have this on in the background. Yeah, it's just some comfy, low stakes trek. Yeah, I can appreciate that about it. Well Adam, should we check with our inbox and see if there's any priority one messages? That's it. We need to discuss. It's a comfy Low Stakes thing to do.

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Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages here. The first one is from Ars Technica Reader, and it's to Senior Hercour. Goes like this. Glad you like the podcast. Congrats on the promotion. And that is it. Whoa, what? You know what? I instinctively flinched when you said

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mission log and therefore shouldn't exist. Right, yeah. But I think that we've gotten over that part of it. Yeah, I think everyone involved has. Hopefully. Yeah. Because if it wasn't cleared by now, we're going to keep going. And there's no amount of comments or type of comment that will stop us. Yeah, that's true. Senior Harker congrats on the promotion. I was a technical reader. Consider using more of your allotted 350 characters next time. Ben, our second priority one message is from Mike. It is for Christar, quote unquote, shrump coalgar and mock.

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We've got to come up with what we will be calling this thing when it is not about Star Trek the next generation anymore. I think we add a colon to our name. I think we keep the greatest generation. We've worked. I'm all about that colon. We got to we got to keep that brand intact then, but maybe we go the greatest generation colon deep space nine. How about just the the greatest generation colon colon? Because it's all about a space but all. I thought you were gonna go with the greatest generation colon and then nothing like like a colon with no text that follows

That sounds like us And like I guess I guess like the thing that follows the colon could be the image like the image of the station Or the image of the space butthole. We probably get sued if we use those images, but- It'd be purely visual. Yeah. We'll have to come up with something Adam.

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What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I don't know. Drunk Shimoda! Sometimes I feel bad about picking a drunk Shimoda that is very obvious, but data slapping war fun the back at the buffet and saying, you're a big asshole, you should love this guy.

Like, it's such a drunk Shimoda move. Like, data is clearly having the most fun in this episode. Yeah, yeah, you know, like, that's gotta be fun for Brent Spiner to like flip through the script and go like, Oh, you mean all of my scenes are just chewing scenery and being hilarious? Like, great! His entire role in this episode is to like pop inside frame and quip something and then leave. And he's got to be like fairly exhausted after having to play two of the main characters in descent.

Yeah. exhausted after having to play two of the main characters in descent. So this is fun for it. He's going to take his leisure and have a good time doing it. Yeah. Well chosen. How about yourself? Do you have a drunk Shimoda? It should be data. On a technicality, it should be data, but I'm gonna pivot into Councillor Troy. Who had at first the great task of escorting the most fun ambassador, and then it turned quickly into that feeling of like, even the best house guests eventually,

you can't wait for to leave. Yeah. And by the very end, when Laqu is getting ready to leave, he's like, oh, that's a, that no reservations episode that I taped with you was fantastic. I'll eat all that sweet, sweet dessert. Thanks so much. Like as a token of my thanks, I'm going to give you the sleeve of communion rafers. And Troy looks at it and looks at him and is like, oh, yeah, I'm kind of glad this is over. And that feeling of relief when your house guest leaves, even when they are a great, great guest and you've had super fun hangs is like, that's a fun feeling,

that's a real feeling. And that's something that Marina Sirdus like projects very realistically here. So I'm gonna give that to her. Those crackers look like these type of crackers that my wife buys sometimes for cheese and crackers, type of situations that are made out of rice instead of wheat. I love those crackers. I think they're good as a cracker, but I have no interest in putting cheese on them.

Oh yeah. Like give me one of those like toasts that is full of nuts and dried cranberries for cheese. You know what's great about those crackers is that their their tensile strength is amazing. Like you can really drag that through a thick dip and it's not going to bust up. See that's a that's an interesting take. We don't fuck around with dip that much. It's usually being used as a cheese delivery mechanism in my house and it's a flavor clash issue.

It just seems like two foods from two different cuisines that don't belong together. Well, this cheese-free lifestyle that I live means that I almost exclusively live a dip lifestyle. So, that's how I'm rolling. You're living that hashtag dip life? Sure am. I hope our viewers write in and tell us

whether they're living that hashtag dip life or that hashtag cheese life. It's the only poll we've ever done and we're doing it on ships and dips. What do we have coming up on the next episode, Ben? The next episode is season 7, episode 3. Interface. Jordy defies Picard's commands and risks his life in what appears to be a futile attempt to rescue his missing mother.

Do you remember this episode Adam? I remember this episode answering the question, what kind of parents make Jordy? And I am excited to return to it to see if there's any more illumination to that question. Sounds like you're not going to inflict a veto on this. I am darkly interested in watching this episode again. Under that lens. Okay. I'm excited to watch it as well. I remember, Jordy, having a really cool Batman suit in this episode,

so I will also not use my veto. Oh, boy. know whenever there's a Batman suit on screen Ben, I can only mean one thing. Middle-aged Batman impressions. Yep. Well, having a next episode also means ending this one, and that means saying thanks to a number of the people who helped support our show, guys like Adam Ragusia and Dark Materia, who are responsible for the great music you hear throughout. Yeah, and also the Legion of Viewers who support us financially by going

to MaximumFun.org slash Donate. We just really appreciate everybody who does that. So thank you. Thanks guys. We should direct people to the greatest Gen hashtag on Twitter where Adam is at Cut for Time and I'm at Benjamin R. A.H.R. I've also got great Facebook group. A Wikia page, a Reddit group. And I think there's even a Greatest Gen Steam community now. If you're into the Steam video game platform, there's a Greatest Gen Hang available for you. Hmm. I have, I have so far in my life avoided Steam communities because I didn't think they were for me.

But, uh, maybe this is different. Yeah, it said that we could join. It said it was for greatest-gen viewers, and also been an atom could join. Oh, it's great. Yeah, nice of them to leave the door. Slightly a jar for us. Maybe we don't want to know what goes on in that steam room.

Mm. Mm. Well, with that, we will be back at you next week in that steam room. Hmm. Hmm. Well, with that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek the Next Generation. In an episode of the greatest generation, there really misses its mother and dualizer extent. It's father. There! You'll look at the car of her face as she savers them. Yeah. Maximumfund.org.

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