The Greatest Generation - Brone Blown (VOY S6E5)

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

When Paris falls in love with a rust bucket from the junkyard, it’s clear that no one else can appreciate her sculpted lines. But when Alice goes Hal and tries to murder BLT, Tom’s attempt to escape gets him covered in rave ropes. Do all sales people have a particular vibe? What is an emergency pack actually for? Where is the show’s science fiction curiosity? It’s the episode that just needed one more thing!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Yeah, get yourself blown. Oh. You should be so lucky. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a long time. Boy, I'm having one of those days where I'm trying to pack. I mean, I think this will be distant past by the time this comes out, but we're about

to go do the reencounter at far point, but I'm going to be on the East Coast for like a week ahead of that. So I've got family visits and some vacation, but also I'm bringing stuff so that I can record episodes while we're out there. And packing for Daron, like, is Daron suitcase the biggest? What's this? I said take only what you need to survive. I don't think it's the biggest,

but Daron has the most needs. Like, we have to bring a portable crib and we have to bring the stroller slash car seat thing. There's a lot of like big otherwise impractical objects that go along with bringing to Rome. On the last flight I took, I was in the jet way behind a couple of new parents. Jesus man, I don't like to hear that. You're supposed to be up in the plane.

Parents of a child about the age of to-round. I don't like to hear that. You're supposed to be up in the plane. Parents of a child about the age of Daron, I don't, I can't guesstimate ages and sizes and so forth. But they were so cranky with each other. Like the act of traveling was so difficult on that particular day for them. I ached for them and what a bad day they were having. And I really hope that you and Daron and your lovely wife can like your travels are more chill than that. Because it just seemed like to these two strangers, every little thing was something to set them

off. Every little thing just makes us angry. Read on down to like folding the stroller at the end of the jet way, like not doing that right. And where's it going? And are they going to put it under the plane? And like all those questions that you have, like you've traveled with to Rome before, none of this should be surprised. Yeah, I mean, I think that there's like the, you travel a lot for work and then you're

traveling with your partner and your partner doesn't travel the same way that you do. Like a lot of the things that you have set up in your mind as like a given for travel have to become a discussion like yeah. Are we going to get a cab are we you know. I think my lucky stars every time I travel that my wife is an aisle person and I'm a window. Like, I don't know if this could work if we were both one or the other. There'd be a lot of, there'd be even more resentments than there are right now. Yeah. So I think that like adding a baby to the natural frison of two different people having slightly different styles of going through an airport and getting on an airplane is only exacerbated when there is a helpless little one to worry about the entire time. What is the threshold of helpless little and needing a seat on an airplane on their own?

I think you have to get them a seat when they are two. Uh-huh. And they're checking IDs. Yeah. But we aren't getting Daron a seat this time, and it's going to be a very different experience because last time we flew with Daron. That little take was a very sleepy, very little baby. He didn't walk.

He didn't really have the ability to move around much. Now he's neither, right? Yeah, I mean, he can't walk yet, but he can crawl and he has thoughts about what he would like to be doing at any given moment. The floor of an airplane is famously a great place to put your bare hands and feet. Yeah, and there's lots of things on airplanes planes that you want to put in your mouth.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he's definitely a thief, where any object that gets within arms reach is going right in the kisser. That seatbelt is going to get some action, I think. Yeah. So, the level of planning is getting really staggeringly complicated. I'm very grateful we're not taking merch to the re-encounter at far point show because having to schlep that along with everything else seems like it might make this impossible. This show is gonna be an experiment in a lot of ways.

I'm looking forward to it. Looking forward to gathering some learnings. Yeah. Well, before we fast-rock to the cluster mark that is the bellhouse, Adam, we should review an episode of Star Trek Voyager. What do you say we get into season six, episode six? Wait, is it episode five? There I am, down run. I've got episode five. Fuck. I'm so focused on my vory tellings that my clerical shit has fallen entirely off the rails.

Yeah, let's tighten that up. Oh well. We're doing Alice at least, right? Alice. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots. I'm not turning around. Our cold open is set on the bridge where Tom Paris tries to figure out just how far

in the before two Voc was born. Yeah, along with Edson Kim. I mean, a lot of people don't realize this, but two Voc pretty gray. Yeah. Their guesses are way off. Probably as way off as mine would be. I feel like these are good guesses. They seem to be making educated guesses, like they know when... Like, you were in Star Trek 6. That was a long-ass time ago, Tuvak. Right. He does not greet their guesses brightly. No. He does not want to play this game. I see no reason to enlighten you.

They pick something up on long range sensors and they think they may be glimpsing a star fleet that could be dangerous. This feels automatic, right? Like as soon as the ship goes to Red Alert, Chico Tay and Janeway appear, which makes me wonder, what were they doing? Hmm.

One of our more interesting missions. Did they come out of Janeway's office? They come out of the same door. Yeah. I think Chico Tay was trying to fathom what kind of bathtub would really turn her crank. This may be multifaceted, three-dimensional workplace romance chess I'm playing, but like, maybe if something's happening,

they wanna come out the same door, because if they were conspicuous about coming out of it to different doors, maybe that's a sign that something's up, like they're trying too hard to cover up a thing. Like coming out of the same door, there's nothing to hide. That's pretty sharp at them.

Right. I think that's clever. Yeah. Keep it top low and your glimpse wide. So when they get the fullness of the readings of these ships, they realize this is not the nemesis that we're glimpsing here. No. Now they're being signaled by an enthusiastic salesperson.

Yeah. Whoever you are, wherever you're from, greeting. And in his telling, we learn that this is a repository of lost treasures. And he really greets them brightly this guy. Abedons repository of lost treasures is open for business. And they are, you know, welcomed in and asked to look around and see if there's anything that strikes their fancy. Didn't you get just a little bit of Ecopapa 607 salesperson

vibe from this guy? And follow up question, isn't every salesperson kind of an Ecopapa 607 vived person. Yeah. Kind of feel that way. When Abidon greets Neelix, he makes that observation and passes the Echo Papa 607 transitory property right over to a member of the crew.

Yeah. Neelix maybe disappoints the salesperson that he doesn't really do commerce anymore, but it is clear he's happy to take a bump of it today, you know? Like they have a real familiar popularity with each other as salespeople from back in the day. Yeah, so this is like a space pick and pull

where there's a bunch of junk there. And it's a like, see if anything is of interest. Abidon is kind of a scary looking guy. Like he's very friendly, but he has loaf that is sort of a midpoint between borgs and gem hadars. Remember what the Carties used to look like? Like version one Carties with like the... Yeah, that like headcage thing.

It kind of evoked that similarity to me, but we get some closeups with this guy later. It kind of looked like hair. Was this hair? That was hair? Kind of looked like hair. Man, I totally, when I glimpsed that, I saw a metal. Yeah, I mean, it could be, you know, like brushed aluminum.

That doesn't look like hair, but it looks like it's got grain or whatever. Right. Maybe we're both right. Perhaps. Maybe this is a metal, but it's, it's grained in such a way that it looks hairy. Tell you what, I'd prefer that this guy shave

that shit off though. Yeah. Yeah, get rid of it Abadon We cut over to the ass lab where this pick and pull isn't progress you know, you got to you got to see what might be available to you and Paris finds an old rust bucket out there in the junkyard and he falls for this thing Immediately doesn't look like much on screen. What are you kidding?

Look at those lines, it's a work of art. One thing I do know is that you don't want to let the salesperson at the dealership know the fullness of your love for a vehicle. Right. That's how you get an upturn deal, Ben. Ha ha ha. Oh no.

Yeah, you know what that? You gotta be willing to walk. You gotta be willing to fast walk out of the dealership, right? Right, so there's a Muglofflin group with Chico Tay. Is your walk, they've been given him the list of all the stuff that they've spotted in this junkyard that they would like to trade for.

Nielix gets like the elbow to the ribs from Paris and adds this one last thing. This shuttle, this beautifully lined vehicle that Paris has just fallen head over heels for. Dakota pushes back by saying, we have a full complement of shuttles. I immediately wanted to send Dakota to Six Bay after this comment. Just for a general check up on how his brains are doing. This seemed wrong. Yeah, they may have been nullified if he doesn't remember. He has personally, like, what's his Shuttle Body count for?

It got to be. Easily for. I would, I would yes, maybe closer to 10. Yeah. The other thing about this scene is that, you know, less we forget. Paris is on probation. Right. If I were grounded when I was a child, and I piped out about wanting to have pizza for dinner or something, fuck me. No. Pizza for dinner or something? Fuck me! No! I'm grounded.

So what exactly is the probation period like for Paris at this point? He seems to be able to do whatever he wants and get like favors whenever he wants. Yeah, he's really acting like Lieutenant Paris when he's wearing Ensen Paris colors. It's true, yeah, yeah. The shuttle is a bit of a manual transmission situation

though, it's got a neurogenic interface. And with that, you can sort of jack into the pilot where all the controls come automatically. Unfortunately, this is a shuttle that can't distinguish between like a semi truck and a Jersey barrier. So you're going to want to keep one hand on the wheel while you're into the neurogenic interface, right?

Yeah. Abadon has tweeted a lot about the like really amazing capabilities of this shuttle, but the real world is a little bit different from the reality distortion field of the entrepreneur behind it. I think Chico Tay does a pretty good job at blowing this back. Like, you're on probation. You don't have time for this. You have regular duties, both to please that booty and like, do your job. And Paris is like, look, I may or may not have a committed relationship that I can just throw away. Anytime I have a new hobby I'm interested in.

And look at Kim, it's not like he's doing anything. Right. Let me do this on my own time. And that's persuasive enough for Chico Te to be like, moneyless society, let's get it. Sounds great. Why not? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, Chico Te is probably also just thinking about like giving some of the ladies on the crew a little bit of a break for a few weeks. Yeah. Yeah, if Kim's off the board, everyone else is free to heal up. Ha ha ha.

Of course, it's locked in. Word. free to heal up. Abidon drills Paris a little bit on some of the things he's going to need to know about this shuttle. He's got a fondness for it. And he's telling them about the sort of like temperamental drive system and whatnot, but he's really optimistic that Paris is the right buyer for this shuttle. Have you ever sold a car to a person? No. What's an example of a thing that you've sold that was like a high value item that you

had like a personal connection with? Because I've sold cars before to people and you definitely have this conversation with them that's like, you're trying to give them the cheat code for the thing that you love. But after it's over, like, you know they don't care. That was just for you. Right. Yeah, I think that you get it a lot the other way too.

Like when we were in the market for a house, our letter to the seller, I think God, I think the people selling our house had a better offer on the table. They took hours because they liked us more. God, I wish the person who owned my home previously were more honest about how much of it was a manual

transmission with a sticky clutch, you know? I'm finding sticky clutches all over the place. Oh yeah. So they actually built this thing. There's like a, there's a standing shuttle in a room that we get to see a bunch of different times and in a bunch of different states of disrepair and repair. And I loved this for this episode. Like they did a great job building this.

I mean, it's like sort of like halfway between a prop and a set, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the only thing missing from this tablo is like a Ronnie James Dio song playing in the back, you know? Like all garages have to do legally. Mm-hmm. like a Ronnie James Dio song playing in the back, you know? Like all garages have to do legally. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, you don't glimpse any like, you know, calendars

with bikini babes standing in front of other cars hanging in the shuttle bay. Yeah. Excuse me, Vanessa, and that's mine. I've never been one to name any vehicle of mine, but Paris comes down on the name Alice, named after Alice Betisti. Someone he knew from the academy who gave him the trembles because she was intelligent and beautiful and also wasn't interested in him. That was the only one. Paris.

Alice Betisti sounds pretty tasty. Yeah. She sounds great, actually. She had the good sense to not fall into bed with Paris. I love how sly Harry is in this scene acting like he doesn't know Alice Petisti. Oh, she didn't go with you. What was her name again? Harry Kim knows them all, Tom Parris.

You could draw them from memory. Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim and your mark. Very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim. I lasted 20 minutes. And your mark. Very proud. Harry Kim. Who are you? Harry Kim.

So they do a little wrenching, a little goofing around, you know, plug in some power cells here, turn on some neurogenic links there. It's going to be workable, but it's not working right now. So they call it a night. Paris wishes Alice a good night and says, we'll see you tomorrow. And we get like a predator analysis of voice moment where the computer is like showing what his skull looks like and then what his brains looks like. And it seems to have analyzed his brain and figured out what a lady voice that sounds sexy would sound like to a town Paris.

Good evening, Dave. Everything's running smoothly. I mean, mission accomplished. I think Alice does a great job. She could work the phones at a 900 number with a voice like this. I love the weird science style depiction of Tom Paris' face. That's fun. Yeah, that's great.

Very good. So he's like up late working on a pad and is beckoned by somebody, something. And he goes out into the hallway, he sees a butt, you know, like going around a corner. You see that butt, and you think that's the butt that's calling for him, right?

That's gotta be the butt that's calling for him. You could run, Paris, but instead he kind of fast walks after this person. Was it clear to you whether or not this was corporeal Alice or was this just a rando that he was following and then inside, he runs into Alice? I think based on the costume, it's corporeal enough to him.

It looked like a different butt. Oh, you think it's a different butt? I don't know. I don't wanna be known as a butt racist, but I feel like these two butts were distinct. Based on the fleet colors of the butt, I'm guessing it's the same butt. Yeah.

In the cargo bay, we just get a shot of Paris and no reverse shot. No reverse shot. And there's a voice that introduces itself as Alice. And Paris seems very happy to be there. Yeah. And then it's like the next day. And Paris is showing up for work on cleaning the shuttle up and getting it working.

And this is a very fun montage. Rub and dirt off the view screen and taking components out and putting new components in and wrenching. I really like the music cue in this. Yeah. I really like the depiction of Tom Paris being the kind of gear head who's like, I don't only want to fix what's broken

and make non-functional things work. Like, I want to clean as I go. Right. I want this thing looking good too. And it's fun to watch them care about those things also. I mean, but what's fun about that is that like in almost equal proportion, he lets himself go also. You know? Yeah, he's given everything to this shuttle.

It's almost like he looks too great to be of use. Yeah, it's true. But then he replicates himself some new fleet colors at him. This looks like one of those suits you wear into As sauna when you're trying to cut way ahead of a a wrestling me. This is not flattering. I love that there's something distinct about. Paris having moved into full like Alice worship mode. But this would have been so cool if it were like a little tighter. Yeah, it's a little dumpy around the waist area and yeah, it doesn't look good on him. I don't fathom why he did this.

But at the same time, the episode does a lot of work in like downplaying whatever sexual relationship might be happening here. Sure. Paris doesn't want to fuck the shuttle. He's not a dragon. Even though the corporeal version of Alice is very attractive. Right. But like if Paris showed up and he had like a V-shaped torso, form fitting, you know, like

metallic colored jumpsuit where he looked ripped and exploded in it, I think there's an uncomfortable virility with what that would suggest. If he needed to like present himself as attractive in the way that Alice does also, that's a subtext maybe that we don't want here. So maybe the dumping-ness does the story a favor. Harry Kim finds Paris glimpsing a schematic in engineering and Harry Kim is in his own different colors than normal.

He looks like a public school janitor to me. Well, he's dressed up to play a part in a Captain Proton game. And he thinks Tom has like changed up the Captain Proton look, which actually I was like, this kind of looks more like Captain Proton than it does future cool like flight suit. Yeah. Yeah, they've got holodec nemices to vanquish. And when they glimpse each other, they're like, it looks like they're both dressed and ready to go, but this sucks. This is two straight hangs that Paris has blown off. It's not nice.

He's not down for any fun in the proton reverse. He just wants to mess around with Alice the Shuttle. Yeah. Kim doesn't seem hurt by this in the way that maybe I wanted him to be. I guess this frees Kim up to go fuck around. Yeah, he's gonna have a different kind of adventure with a Racknia. Yeah, he'll be stating the obvious again.

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with a dusty ingot that Mealix has there. It turns out it's a Rillium crystal. Crystal! That's real valuable. You could buy an entire star fleet with what he's got there on the shelf.

Dusty ingot is like the name of a boner pill. That would be great, right? Yeah, it's actually the name I give when I check into a hotel a lot of the time. I'll just order those through the mail. My Dusty Inget's come in anonymous packaging. Nielix was like, oh man, that sucks. We should give it back.

And seven reminds Nielix that all trades are final. So she walks away and Tom Parrish fast walks in to replicate himself a bottle of champagne. Yeah, he wants to smash that bottle all over Alice. We got a rap video. But there dates going to be a three way because BL. I'm gonna wrap video. But, uh, their date's gonna be a three way because BLT is gonna be joining that party too. Yeah.

They trade some, some tellings about what it's like to have your own ship and, uh, you know, Nielix is making jokes at the expense of his old ship. I love this scene because why has the show forgotten all about Nielix's own personal ship, which is still a board Voyager? Yeah, I would like more adventures to bring it into the fold. Let's do stuff with it more often. How big of a piece of shit must Nelix's ship be for Paris to have no interest in fixing it up and hot riding it? You didn't notice Paris was kind of quiet when Nielik said

that he thought it was the ugliest thing he'd ever seen, right? Yeah. Am I making any sense here? So we finally see BLT in this episode and she goes down with Paris and we get the big reveal. We glimpse the ship in its fullness for the first time. All cleaned up, looks great.

It's painted Miami, Marlin's teal. Like this is a very late 90s color, isn't it? It really is. Very popular. Yeah. Chip looks awesome. They decide not to smash the champagne bottle against it, probably because it was made out of like balsa wood by the props department. against it, probably because it was made out of like, balsa wood by the props department. Yeah, they do pop it inside though. Yeah. And turns out there just a few days away from the first flight. That's a big moment for any flying machine.

First flight will be in the soon after. And Paris is like, you know, a little nervous about that situation. There's still a lot to be done. He's also a little nervous that Volana has spilled some champagne on the upholstery. That Naga Hyde's not gonna buff itself out. It doesn't look like this is a cloth interior. No.

So I think that'll wipe right up. Yeah. Chill the fuck out, Paris. Come on. This is like the moment your special person hears what voice you've given to Siri in your phone, because as soon as Alice starts talking, BLT is like, whoa! That's what you like?

I see you chose hot Australian female. Interesting. That's some voice. Came with a ship. I was interested in the fact that BLT did not seem to be jealous at all before the the wine smashing ceremony. But she really gets the trembles when this voice comes out. Yeah. She gets the shocks, too, when she hits the door button.

She gets a little warflightening there to the hand. It seems like Tom is too concerned over that. Yeah, that's rough. I don't seem like Tom is too concerned over that. Yeah, that's rough. I don't like the way Paris is treating her in this exact moment. I think when your person gets hurt, you gotta at least make an attempt at some empathy there, right? Yeah, do. We'll see you later.

So, Paris meets up with Chicote and Chicote, as quarters with a list of parts that he would like to assemble to continue the repairs on the shuttle. There's a bunch more stuff that he's gonna need to actually get it space worthy. And Chicoet Day has some rages to share in this scene. You've got an emergency kit, right? Mm-hmm. Everyone needs to have an emergency kit,

and I'll often raid mine for, you know, the odd cup noodles, pack, or whatever, or a granola bar. Every time you need a bandaid, you go into that thing. And this is what Shikote is pushing back on with Paris. He's like, look, all of these cupo noodles you want to stock Alice with, like, we kind of need those in case of emergency.

That's the whole point of having an emergency kit. Paris can't get on this level though. No. Shikote is also calling him on showing up late for work at the Six Bay and being distracted when he's on duty on the bridge. You know, he's looking a little scruffy. He's got a little bit of a after five shadow going. Perse is ordered basically to go get some sleep and

accepts that, you know, Chico today is making a good point and leaves and marches right down to the shuttle bay and meets up with Alice. And we actually get to see her in her fullness this time. Yeah. Wow. Climps her. It's a really fun effect because he walks in and the camera does a 360. And she's like not in there when he first walks in,

but by the time the camera finishes spinning around him, she's leaning against the shuttle. She's in her own fleet colors, just like the ones he replicated. Yeah. Yeah, they really seem to have something steamy going on. This moment has that new relationship smell, where it's like, you know, sleep would be better for your health, but fucking would feel great.

And so like you sacrifice all other matters for the companionship of Alice. And Alice is all too happy to be like, yeah, why don't you sit down in this weird chair and try out the interface. That'll make you feel better, better than sleep in a shave. Yeah, really got sucked disc energy the way she's coaxing him to turn on the interface.

Just for a minute, you won't regret it. This is great casting because her voice is very hypnotic and Paris sure does seem hypnotized by her, especially in this moment. Who do you say we continue with those repairs? Nothing creepy about this. We don't check up on each other in Voyager. You know? No.

Like, cut back to Chicoetay, looking at a pad, like following the dot of Tom Paris out of his quarters, and into the shuttle bay. And then the camera moves down to Chicoetay's hand, following the dot of Tom Paris out of his quarters and into the shuttle bay. And then the camera moves down to Ticote's hand and there's a pencil in it. It can't be happy about this. You gotta tend your crew. Yeah, Ticote's pretty hands off.

That's what she says. So it seems like some time has gone by and when we cut, Paris has now shrouded taking the parts that he wanted for himself, sneaking around in Jeffrey's tubes, grabbing stuff out of secondary systems on the sly. Yeah. Not a good look for him. Alice's hold on Paris is sturdy, isn't it? Sure is. And it seems at this point in time that like there's actual puppet mastering happening, I don't think Paris would do this if he were in full control of his faculties, right? No, his top doesn't seem to be fully engaged at this point. And he gets caught in the ass lab by seven and he's got like

a course charted through a bunch of stars systems. He's like, I saw the course you had charted there. And he's like, what course? What are you talking about? Yeah. He did not switch tabs fast enough. Yeah. He tried to click over to a tab that just said trunks. He was on Course Hub and couldn't switch off fast enough. That's what happens when you're looking at Course Hub with your AirPods in. Also, now you don't hear people walking in to the Aslab. Right. Well, I'm glad my studio is in a different building. Indeed.

It's subtle. So seven expresses some concerns about the interface, the neural link that this shuttle has. And Paris is just trying to get out of there and isn't really all there enough to do this. So Alice has to sort of serenote to Persia and hack him out of the situation. And this is like, you know, like the world's simplest blowoff,

but I feel like it says a lot about Paris's tops that he isn't able to do this by himself. Yeah, he's been diminished by his cravings. No kidding. Right. Got tickets that lock them, get the roll, bit of large munch here. I've got tickets that lock them, we're- All better large men here- I got tickets that-

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I've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie?

We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Ross and Kerry, available on maximumfund.org. In engineering, I really like this conversation between BLT and Kim, because what she does is

underscore a feeling we've had for seasons and seasons, which is, why is it that Paris chooses literally anything else to do besides be with BLT? She's starting to get the trembles that their relationship is not sturdy. And she asks, Harry Kim, like, you're supposed to be his best friend, like, what's this about? And he has this anecdote of the five stages of acquisition, which is a foreigngi concept about how you go through having a thing. It's easy to remember, Ben. All you need to remember is edge hour. Oh, really?

Yeah. The first stage is infatuation. The second stage is justification. The third is appropriation and that obsession. And then finally resale. Yeah. How differently do you look at your past relationships if you realize that you weren't dumped necessarily?

It was resale is what it was. That kind of makes the sting better. I interpreted this as being about the shuttle, not about their relationship. I thought he was saying he's about to resale this thing. Oh, no, that's not how I saw it at all. Yeah, I thought this is a relationship thing. Oh Well, what's the first letter in infantuation? By the way, uh-oh I don't know

Well, we don't have to stay with that thought for too long. I don't want to cause your trembles to turn to rage. You're the worst. BLT goes to you. I was like, why is there a squiggly red line under how I wrote that word? We'll never know. Don't infantilize me, Ben. I don't mean to do that.

BLT goes down to the shuttle to see, because they're told by the computer that there's some variance in the warp manifold or some shit. And so BLT realizes that a bunch of parts are missing from a bunch of key backup systems and goes down to the shuttle bay, knowing full well who took these parts. And it's classic horror movie, don't go in the house shit when she walks inside the shuttle and the door

slams shut behind her and then you know she can't open the door and she asked the shuttle to open the door and I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that. Atmospheric systems fail her communicator doesn't work. Alice is kind of hailing isn't she? She really is, yeah. Alice won't open the pod bay doors. She won't do it at all. Or just the pod doors, right?

It's not even the bay part, it's just the pod. Yeah, yeah. So Alice is unshrouded as a murderer and very lucky that Paris like Hoopty-Dews into the shuttle bay right at this moment sees her banging on the glass and opens the door and She she stumbles out in the hallway. She doesn't even want to be in the bay anymore Paris doesn't believe women

She tells him that the ship tried to kill her and he's not trying to hear that Yeah He's like what are you wrestling with, BLT? And she really calls him on this at this point. She's like, that thing was about to have me upturned. It was doing it on purpose. You're spending all your time toiling on that thing instead of, and then she points down, toiling on this.

Man, he really has like drug addicts being confronted. points down toiling on this. Man, he really has like drug addicts being confronted energy, right? Like because of how he grabs her and yells at her, like right on her face. Yeah, I didn't like the same. It's a bad scene for Paris. He like sides with shuttle. Yeah. In this moment and BLT heads right up to talk to Janeway about what went on, but Alice stays with Paris

and it's like, you know, the only way you're gonna feel better is by getting a neural scan. This is a really crucial scene because this is the moment where Paris tries to resist, right? There's a little crack in the Alice armor this is the moment where Paris tries to resist, right? There's a little crack in the Alice armor where he's like, yeah, I really should go to Six Bay. I really should go get scanned. And as soon as that crack appears,

Alice tortures him into going back along with her into the shuttle bay. It looked really painful. Those like ridges that appear on his forehead when she's zapping him. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't look fun.

And so yeah, they had right back to the shuttle bay. And BLT is up in Janeway's office, reporting what just happened, and explaining how Paris is not sleeping, how he's really got the trembles, how he's acting more like he's a novice than like he's gray. Jane was like, I don't know what you want me to do. I've already demoted him. I'm out of ideas. She's sort of in the middle of saying, well, we'll look into it when they get a report

from the bridge that an unauthorized shuttle launch has been detected. And they go up on the bridge and sure enough, Alice and Paris have absconded and are fast walking away from the ship. They can't show this on the view screen that Paris is inside Alice and everyone's watching. This has got a really hurt for BLT to see this. Yeah. He's got his trunk right inside her. They tried to tractor them back, but Paris is on board like he knows all the tricks. Yeah.

And he's modified his fleet colors even more to have special connectors in the chest that make him even more integrated with the ship. And this disrupts the tractor beam once it connects. Once you're at a music festival and you start putting on the glow ropes. You can't be caught. You're just in your own world. And that's the visual language here. For Tom Paris.

He's gone full glow rope. Yeah. He's shooting glow ropes. That's what he's doing. Yeah. And now they're one. And now he's like attacking Voyager. He's shooting them.

Like, when did he get drilled on 40 weapons? That's a great question. Like, we never hear at all about the armament of Alice. Yeah, but the armament is there and he licks some shots at Voyager and gets out of there. And when we come back, like, Alice is finishing up telling him, like a an abridged version of the myth of datalist that leaves out important Icarus based information. Yeah. And the camera like pulls back and the glow rope situation has gotten really out

of control. Paris has been dancing a long time. He can't feel his arms or his legs anymore. He's positively covered in these rave ropes. What he needs is some water and a little bit of a sit down. Right. More than anything. Maybe an orange wedge. Yeah.

He needs to chill out. Yeah. That's for sure. Yeah. It doesn't look like he's going to get any kind of a break though. Alice really wants to party. These glow ropes are coming out of his chest like plantings. Back on Voyager, they've rolled up on Abadon's shipyard, and this time Abadon isn't happy

to talk. No. That isn't so Neelik shows him the lost treasure that they were accidentally given, and the idea of a trade back in this moment is suddenly back on the table. This is an interesting choice showing the Beryllium crystal up against the blue screen because they had to key out the part of the blue screen that goes through it and it doesn't quite

refract the light of Abadon's office on the view screen the way it's supposed to. It's a challenge for sure. It really looks unusual in this shot. So they have another McLaughlin group. This time Abaddon is there and he does not greet them quite as brightly. Turns out Abaddon has his own Alice. I hope you haven't forgotten me. She's in the meeting too, and is telling Abedon how to act, what to do. Pretty clear that Abedon is as much under the sway of this lady as Paris is. Did you get the sense that this was more of an acid flashback Alice versus Alice actual, or do you think that Alice is able to exist both on the shuttle for Paris and in the meeting for Abaddon?

I wondered about that. Like, is there a lingering psychic connection still? Yeah. And like, how, like, what's the range on that? Yeah. I kind of think that the acid flashback read might be the right thing. That or Alice has become a power to Abaddon in some way. In the vory sense of a religious slash god concept.

Right. I knew where you were going with that. Thanks. You know who's not having flashbacks at this meeting? Nelix. Because Abadon brings up the fact that a Haconian was the type of person that traded the ship with him. And that's the species that genocide at Nelix's race.

Whoa. On that planet the species that genocide at Nielix's race. Whoa. On that planet. Damn, really? Nielix doesn't even flinch at this knowledge. Wow. Oh, but he does slide the crystal back in his pocket. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, the ship is positively haunted. That's what we learn. Yeah. Abaddon has like a brain hemorrhage and down in six days like, yeah, like, so I was just as sprung off this ship as Paris was. And I had to get it out of my shipyard because it was just torturing me. Yeah.

Cerebral hemorrhage probably makes you wrote pretty good, right? Hmm. Looks like Alice got to him too. Indeed. In the now and in the hereafter. He almost roped himself to death in that meeting. Yeah, I hope they would have turned him to the earth so that he could go to the hereafter.

Yeah, then you just roped and spayed into the ground. Right. Where it belongs. Interesting, like, backstory to the Alice idea is that Alice is a shuttle with a personality that's very attractive, but Alice can't fly herself. Yeah. Needs a compatible pilot and Abaddon was not that.

Abaddon could fall in love with Alice, but Abaddon could not fully control Alice. Abaddon is the older person in a relationship with a youthful, vivacious, counter-part who just wants to fuck all the time. And Abaddon can't keep up. I couldn't get her to where she needed to go. It's just the old cliche, like how many times are old dudes writing scripts in Hollywood gonna give us this depiction

of the manic pixie dream shuttle? Right. Ugh. So tired of it. When you get to be that age, you're ordering your burlion and gets through the mail just to keep up. Ha ha ha ha.

But Abadon punched out before going quite that far. In the ass lab, seven of nine has reconstructed the flight path that Paris hit was figuring out when she caught him red handed. So they're going to go follow where Paris went. And at the end of it is a thing called a particle fountain, which Janeway says has cost the Federation dozens of ships. Janeway takes a look at this thing and she's like, you know a particle fountain is just urine, right?

Ha, ha, ha, ha. A Dr. Bashir stationed on Deep Space 9 has done extensive research into this. Particle fountains a beautiful thing. Yeah, it looks great. It's also very dangerous, which is what makes Alice's ship approaching it seem kind of fraught for Tom Paris. Doesn't seem very sharp for him to be on board for when that happens. Alice tells him that they're home. happens. Alice tells him that they're home. Her home, clearly. Yeah. Alice lives here. Paris doesn't think to ask about where he's going to be staying. No. This thing is dangerous as fart. He doesn't really care or know, but they can't shoot his shuttle. Like they catch up real where. Can you just say dangerous as fart? Yeah, and I ever tell you that story.

No, my dad was visiting some cousins in the deep south and his childhood. And they like had one of those like seen in a movie moments where they were going to walk across a rail bridge in a, you know, like that spanned a ravine. Yeah, they were gonna stand by me a trellis. Any of you guys know the next tries, too? My dad started out on the,

her health region as cousin said, Sam, don't do that. That's dangerous as far. Wow, what a moment. Yeah. So my dad always says that because he thinks it's really fun. That is.

What a weird statement. You know that's someone who has had a fart become something else. That is the source of that particular colloquialism, right? I'm pretty sure that the Vory say that too. I'm actually on memory alpha and on the Vori language page, there is an entry for dangerous as fart. Damn. So Voyager has been hot on their tail.

They've fast walked right after the Alice Shuttle and they've picked up the Alice ship out there and they've seen that it's heading straight toward the particle fountain. And when Janeway hails the shuttle, Paris threatens to fire on them. And then he does. They cannot fire back because he's too integrated

into the ship. And at this point, like he's, there are so many glow ropes. Yeah. It's just like comical. He's like the hostage in a bank robbery scene that's covered in glow ropes who's holding a gun to his own head Janeway doesn't know quite what to do here real because they don't want to risk killing him by shooting at the Alice Shuttle

But I mean that particle fountain seems just as dangerous as anything else, right? Right, so they come up with the idea that they're gonna try and hack the Right. So they come up with the idea that they're going to try and hack the command systems on the shuttle, but they need to distract Paris and Alice to do that. Yeah. And so BLT is sent on an away mission inside Tom's head. And like the EMH puts a clip show device on her temple and sensor in there. There's coffee in that Tom's signal. She gets in his nook and is trying to convince him to stop paying attention to what Alice is telling him. And this really works. Like, just the tension between BLT and Alice

turns his trembles to rage, I think. It is very hard for Paris to concentrate in this scene. As both BLT and Alice are kind of angel deviling him, right? Yeah, they do a lot of fun, like, pans where, you know, one of them is in his nook and the camera pans over to his face and then back to the nook and it's the other one in there. Yeah, I really like how the effect is just a camera shot. Right. And an actor stepping out of the way and another one stepping in. Yeah, just an actor covered in rave ropes to sell it.

And he does. They succeed in getting the shields down on the shuttle. They can't get it a lot initially because the particle fountain is splashing yellow liquid all over the outside of the shuttle. And they just can't quite get a lock, but then they boost the annual or confinement and they get them out of there. And the shuttle goes boom and Alice goes to the way after.

She go day looks at the shuttle explode and he's like, well, that doesn't count. That wasn't one of ours. So still a full compliment of shuttles over here, right? Am I right? Everybody on the bridge just kind of like looks away awkwardly. Nobody will make eye contact with Chico today. In six May, we learned that Paris is going to recover in a few days and BLT is there and decides in this moment to give him the get well card from Naomi Wildman, which is a terrible card. Yeah, she gives him a hope your trembles in soon card that Naomi Wildman made.

How could Paris not feel worse about what he did after seeing this card? This doesn't help Naomi Wildman. He's already ashamed enough. Imagine having your greatest shame revealed to a kid who sees fit to like draw you to make you feel better. I don't need your pity Naomi Wildman. What the fuck out of here? Jesus.

Jesus. If you ever get sick, I'll definitely let Daron know never to send you a card, Adam. Yeah. And that card's going in the trash to Ron. Well, Paris is full of regards. Yeah. But BLT is really cool about this.

So much cooler than she should be, I think. This scene feels very post-assemblation-like, right? Remember when when LaQuedus was turned back into Picard and he says he remembers everything? Right. So does Paris. Paris is really haunted by that. And like everybody around Picard,

BLT is not really going to hold this episode against him. Paris just needs a brother to roll around in the mud with. And he'll come out clean on the other side. I had to guess, he probably has a brother to roll around in the mud with. And he'll come out clean on the other side. If I had to guess, he probably has a brother to roll around in crud with. Right. Yeah. I said, my, I said, crud. This is one of those scenes that maybe wish seven was in a little more of this episode, because if anyone could empathize with his play, it would be her, right?

Yeah. Or the Delta flyer, you know? Like that's the other woman in the situation. Really is. Those knobs have gone untouched for way too long. Ha ha ha. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, those knobs are looking mighty savory. The final moment in this episode.

Tell me if you caught this. Does Paris miss BLT's lips on this kiss? It looks like he goes wide. Like, it looks like he can't decide if he's going cheek or lips, so he just kind of goes for the middle. Well, he was in the glare, and he couldn't quite see where he was headed. That's where Alice likes to be kissed. In the middle ground, between lips and cheek.

The face tate. Did you like this episode, Adam? You know, I made it easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. You love this too. Yeah, I like this episode as it is. Like, the story is interesting enough

to have kept me interested in it. I think the unfortunate aspect to it is the ship is bad. Like the Alice ship doesn't look good. And I wish it looked cooler. And so is the uniform. That baggy uniform and the ship that doesn't look cool are strikes against an episode that I think otherwise

is fairly interesting. Like, it needed one more thing to really make this episode shine. And I think it's visual. Like the performances are there, the stories there. It just, it leaves me wanting a little bit. And maybe if they had made the ship an effect instead of a standing set,

like that would have been better. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what's different about the technology now, but I do feel like if this was shot today, like there would have been a way cooler looking, full-size, shuttle model that they could walk around in.

But yeah, the fact that this is like very obviously just made out of like medium density fiber board that's been like staple together and painted teal. Definitely kind of sucks. I mean, the film paper defense of that is that the ship isn't supposed to look cool so that you know just how in the sway of Alice, Paris has become. Like that he's not attracted to the ship or in the ship's

way because it's badass and it's purely because of Alice's force of personality or whatever. Maybe that's what's really going on here. That's the excuse. The episode could hide behind. Do you think that that goes to give weight to the theory that there is some sort of telepathic thing going on with Alice? Yeah, I absolutely do. Like, he was into Alice before he'd even neural linked with Alice. He didn't need the rave ropes to fall for her, that's for sure. It just made the connection stronger, right? Yeah. They're panning around the junkyard and the camera,

zoom's in on a Pontiac Aztec and Paris is like, oh man, it's beautiful. And everybody turns to them and is like, whoo! What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I had to behold her, right?

I guess so. Yeah, I feel the beholder, right? I guess so. Yeah, I feel very much the same way. I think the script is really cool, but there's a couple of speed bumps in the execution, just of the set, you know? The set and the costume really did it. Like if we're being honest, like I think the actor that they cast a play-alist did a great job. I think that Abaddon was a really cool character.

Like it was really that ship that hero prop needed to be great. And it was just mid Abaddon is such a sad character in the end because like Alice never let him go. Alice made Abaddon recruit another pilot and then fucking cucked him. That can't feel good. Yeah. Abaddon's sitting at the other end of the couch while Paris just rails Alice in front of him.

Yeah. Kind of a tragic figure there. Sad. With Abaddon. Maybe that's what he's into. Maybe that's like, maybe that's how he practices for his relationship with Alice. Let's not shame Abaddon.

Yeah. Yeah, he's growing out his face here. And beating it while a shuttle gets fucked. Whatever floats your boat, Abaddon. You wanna see if there's anything in the priority one inbox, Adam? Oh yeah, those messages always float. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

You need a supplement on top of the moon? Supplement. Yes, extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Then our first priority one message is from Gus, who has a favorite episode. Oh, okay. And the message goes to you and me. Alright.

And it looks like you've got some script notes here. So, uh, so the setting is the bridge. You want to play this with me? Okay, yeah. Oh, I'm seeing, uh, we got a kind of a large cast, so maybe just shout the, let's pass it back and forth, but shout the name of the character that you're reading, and if you've already read that character, that's your character. Okay, okay, so here's Ryker. Damage Report!

Dr. Crusher, casualty reports coming in from all over the ship. Data, the starboard Nase cell has sustained a direct impact. We are venting drive plasma. The forge, initiating emergency core shutdown. Row. Enersual dampers failing. We're losing attitude control. Riker.

This is the bridge. All hands to emergency escape pods. Hey, I'm now recognizing what episode this is from. And that's the end of this message, Van. What's the second priority one message? I think Riker is still speaking at the beginning of the second message, which is from Gus and it's to us. Alright, here's Riker picking it up. Core shutdown is unsuccessful. We are losing antimatter containment. Well, forge, we've got to eject the core!

Data. Ejection systems offline. Core breaches eminent. Picard. All hands, abandon ship! Repeat. All hands, abandon! Crap. Captain's lock. Star-Date 45652.1. The end of theise has entered an area of space known as the Typhon Expans.

Great episode, Gus. Great episode. One of my favorite episodes. I literally was just watching cause and effect the other day because I was pulling a clip from it for re-encounter at far point. Really? Yeah.

How about that? People that have seen may remember the intro to re-encounter at far point. I needed to make the ship explode for the intro and that was the episode I chose to pull explosion footage from. Causing effects still a mountain episode for me. Yeah, it's a great episode. I don't know if anything's kicking that off of my mountain. It was kind of a maddening day because I was really racing to get all of the video stuff done

because I'm trampling tomorrow and I just wasn't gonna have time today. And I was like scrubbing around in cause and effect in my video editor and at a certain point I realized that I'd just been watching it for like 50 minutes. That's great. I don't have time to do that. And there are like six different explosions too. How'd you choose which explosion? Well they show the explosion a bunch of different times but it's like the same effects shot, they're just showing longer and shorter at the beginning and end, so. Yeah.

It's one of the great explosions, too. I just remember that one Nassau. Yeah. Having watched it a bunch of times, you do see like one of the ropes that the shit model was hanging from. Yeah. When the explosion was happening.

Do you throw the pieces away if you work in that shop? Oh. I don't know how you can throw away the parts of the hero ship that you've exploded for an episode. No, actually, I read that there was an auction and they sold them as a lot. It's like a box full of the parts and Garrett Wong actually won the auction. Always! Yeah, one of those things. Garrett Wong actually won the auction always Yeah, one of those things can't wait to get invited over to Garrett Wong so I can see his massive collection Yeah, of auction winnings. Yeah, that guy's got like a hanger bay full of

Full of auction winning lucky guy Yeah, well, we feel a lot like Gus does about cause and effect. The way he maybe feels about the greatest generation. Hope so. That's because priority when messages are a great way to support the show. Be like Gus. Go to Maximumfundadoric slash jumbo tron to get yours into the queue. Hey Adam. It's that Ben. Did you find yourself a drunk Shemota? I mean, it's obvious, but it's correct. Paris is the Shemota of this episode. I mean, I tried to come up with something more interesting, but at every turn, he is completely out of his mind in the sway of those rave ropes.

What have I you been? I want to give it to Abadon for letting a burillion crystal go. That just seems like, you know, like if you are in the business of reselling, like used items, you really got to know what you've got. Yeah. It's one thing for like a goodwill to have very highly sought after a piece of mid-century modern furniture with a posted on it that says it's 20 bucks.

Those people don't make any money. They aren't really there to assess actual real world resale value. They're just there to raise money for a charity. Yeah. But, you know, if you own an antique store, if you own a repository of lost treasures, you gotta know what the treasures are. Yeah.

I mean, what is he doing out there if not cataloging all of that stuff? What do you spend your time doing, Abadon? At the same time, though, Ben, Alice has got him wrapped around her little finger. Hmm. He's a recruitin'. Yeah. He would pay five of those fucking crystals to get rid of Alice. Yeah.

Sure would. Hey, do you think Alice died? When she says she went home, is the idea that maybe she did go home and she lives inside the fountain now? The explosion was like the corporeal Alice leaving this plane of existence, but the electrical signal went into the particle fountain. So often at the end of a Star Trek episode like this, there's like that moment of,

so this weird alien we didn't understand is now home. And instead in this episode, everyone's like, great, she's dead, we've got Paris bad. There's no recognition of a strange alien life. Yeah, weird, huh? They never have the, is she as sentient as the doctor conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely no science fiction curiosity about Alice here. No. She just wanted to go live in a stream of piss and they're happy enough for her to do that as long as she doesn't take parish with her.

As long as you recognize that that's just piss, it's not anything else. And our next episode is season 6, episode 6, Riddles. The crew discovers a new side of Tuvac when an enemy attack leaves him stripped of his Vulcan sensibilities. So he feels again. I feel. I like a Vulcan's emotionally fragile episode. Or actin' all crazy episode.

We've gotten a couple of those on Voyager before. But that was, who was that, Vorik? Yeah, who had the Pondfar? Yeah. They were using two Vvox Pondfar instances to try and estimate his age in this episode. Yeah. Wonderful to see Vorik.

Yeah. Who knows? Well, that's next week. How are we going to be doing that episode, Adam? Well, to find out, I'm going to go over to Gachdap Biz Slash Game, where we keep the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker, where right now our runabout is pulsing on top

of square 43. That was today's Bronze Zone episode. Right. And three squares ahead, we got a Cocoa Nono app, six squares ahead of that, a space but hole that would take us to a Cocoa Nono app. Right, I remember this. We have a one in three chance on a brown zone episode of having a Cocoa Nono right afterwards.

I like those odds. That's wild stuff. That'll be... Next episode, I'm recording from New York, so that'll be interesting. You're required to learn as you play, role. Got to die in my hand. Let's required to learn as you play. Roll. Gotta die in my hand, let's see what happens. Do it.

Oh, Ben, I rolled a six! Oh, I'm a rainbow! I'm a rainbow! I see antidote! We've hit the spaceboat hole and we're all the way back down to the second row of the game. It's square 12. Oh, boy. Coco No square 12. Oh boy. Coco No-no have been.

Okay. How about that? What about that long lost, Coco No-no, that you never did? Well, in this case, Ben, I'll be doubling up. All of my drinks. All my drinks will be doubles. Okay.

Wow. How do you feel about that? Intense. There's a riddle. Worried. Uh huh. That'll be fun. Wow, how do you feel about that intense? There's a middle worried That'll be fun You should make some zombies zombies are classically a drink that's for two people. Oh Good idea could do that having had one of those in a while. That's a good drink. Yeah, wow Well, I'm looking forward to next week's episode

Me too. I'm gonna get the groceries for making zombies ahead of time. Yeah, do it. What's in a zombie? Um, that coconut milk? I don't think there's coconut milk. Mostly fruit juice, rum. I think there's a little bit of absent. Oh, don't like absent so much. Maybe I'll- Well, it just does like a flavoring, so it's not. It doesn't taste like absents. I always half my absents in my cocktail recipes.

It's worth. Get it out of there. So that'll be next week. In the meantime, we got a lot of thanks to pass-around. Thanks to the folks who support us on a monthly basis. It makes me a fun, battle-work slash join. Getting access to that great bonus content. I think we will have just released our Teen Wolf episode when this comes out. Oh yeah. Yeah, that was big fun. Yeah. We reviewed the movie Teen Wolf starring Michael James Fox.

It's true. Canonically Star Trek for those red eyes. Mm-hmm. We gotta thank Wendy Pretty, our producer. We gotta thank Phil Tilly, our card danny, who runs the greatest Trek accounts on social media. And we gotta thank Adam Ragusia, our original composer, composed the Janeway song on the model of dark material, who composed the original card song. We're listening to right now.

All of us working together to make this great, great thing for friends of DeSoto. Feels good. With that, we will be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and episode of the greatest generation Voyager where Ben and Adam have taken their mental states far from Bat of a Vulcan by nearly drowning themselves in rum and doubly so for Adam. Love that idea. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound.

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