The Greatest Generation - Chekhov’s Nose (DS9 S2E6)

Episode Date: April 2, 2018

When Dr. Bashir tries to give a new ensign “The Brahms Treatment,” he actually manages to charm her. But when she and Dax are taken hostage with Quark, she briefly turns her weakness into a strength. What’s the worst bodily substance in microgravity? Has Dax just been jackin’ it for the last 150 years? How does science work? It’s the episode that retrofits as much of the podcast as possible for ADA compliance. HELP SUPPORT US IN THE #MaxFunDrive AT MAXIMUMFUN.ORG/DONATE! Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets!

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that everybody gets for taking part in the fun drive. Well, that'd be fun. You just can't take anything sincerely out. What makes doing the show in person difficult is that for most shows, you can't see the look on my face. I can't see the strain you're putting on your eyes as you roll them. I'm now wearing a hooded sweatshirt backwards to obscure my true feelings about what's going on here. Yeah, if Adam's voice sounds just slightly muffled it's because it's going through a couple of

If Adam's voice sounds just slightly muffled, it's because it's going through a couple of ply of cotton. Are we gonna do some cards here? Is that what the plan is? Yeah, I was thinking, for the first time in a very long time, we could bring back sort of the classic card game bit because a generous viewer sent us a box of the complete Star Trek Deep Space 9 trading cards. From what I understand, there are signature cards in this box just like there were in the original next generation box, which is special cards in here. This looks like the box that you would buy

if you were the comic book store owner, and then it would like, like part of it turns into a display. A little bit. Yeah. And then like people buy them, piecemeal, their packets in there. Is that how this works?

Well, I will open it up. And it is literally ripping cellophane as we speak and we'll see Hope the mics are picking up that sweet sweet cellophane noise Just got to cut through this foil Hey, Pinyton knife there, buddy. This is oh your bigger nose are very sharp box 5571 out of 8,000 been so Box 5571 out of 8,000 bin so we're very fortunate to have this box I'm just gonna break you off half of these cards because that's are we gonna go like full card bukkaki here? No, let's let's do what do you say we open? Three packs each okay, we see if anything fun happen

So I'm leaving you half the box so that we can continue to play the game These stacks live here. Yeah, look at me. These are my stacks now So what are we hoping for out of this? I'm hoping for a signed Kira, right? Like that's clearly gonna be the one that I'm going for I'm going for a natural mourn Oh, my cards are stuck together, her ears. Yeah, my cards are a little stuck together as well. What does that mean? Someone's enjoyed these cards before we have. I can't believe they sealed them back after they did what they did.

They are one big, I mean, we both really enjoyed those TNG cards because they were sort of artful depictions. Yeah, they were, they were, they were, one, artist one or T's. Yeah, they were, they were, they were, one, really enjoyed those TNG cards because they were sort of artful depictions. Yeah, the episodes. They were, they were, Artis won Ortiz's kind of

throwback movie poster style posters of episodes. What I'm gathering from having opened this package is that these are, uh, these are like full bleed photograph cards. Yeah. They're very glossy. I think that's why they're sticking together, right? Yeah, some of them are a little damaged by the sticking together phenomenon.

Oh no. I'm getting like little bits of the ink that came away in peeling them apart. It helps to like opening a fresh pack of playing cards. It helps to just sort of bend them up a little bit. Yeah, right. Yeah. So most of my cards appear to be episode specific, much like those TNG cards. So I've got a card here for Q less. That's one of the season one episodes. And I also have the Forsaken, of the episode, that's one of the season one episodes and I also have the forsaken, which is a really nice picture of fan favorite Luxana Troy.

Nice. I'm seeing a lot of pictures of them in the uniform that they had in Star Trek first contact, the gray mantle on a black jumpsuit with the color just on the turtle neck or whatever. Yeah, I wonder when they drop that look on the show. I have checklist one here which is I guess the card that tells you what other cards you can find in these packs. It's got cards 1 through 99 listed. Mmm. In front of it is a four-panel picture of

Bashir, Warf, O'Brien, and Quark. I really like how these cards look. It is really disappointing that the ink pulls up based on the stuck-togetherness. This happened to the photo album of my wedding photos that my mom made. Oh no! The pages are stuck together now for reasons having nothing to do

with any biological function of mine. Yeah, Ben, you're jerking it to your own wedding photographs? You sick fuck! That what my mom had in mind wedding photographs? You sick fuck? That what my mom had in mind when she put that together for us was an anniversary present that she thought would bring my wife and I closer together but it wound up just bringing me closer to myself Who knows your masturbatory predilections better than your mother? predilections better than your mother. Oh, I got a special card.

Oh really? In my second pack bin, check it out. I've got a, it's a special allies and enemies card for Molly O'Brien. Can you guess which side of that description she falls on? I guess I'm guessing that description she falls on guess? I'm guessing That they put her on L.I. side. She is on the L.I. side Good guess it's card B20 Molly O'Brien

Yeah She dabbled in fascism early in her in her career, but she wound up on the side of freedom and justice. Yeah, I'm just finding a lot of episode cards. Oh, I do have an... here's an Allies and Enemies card. Adam, it is Ishka. Looks like a Ferengy lady. Oh, check it out. Oh, it says her son is quirk. So this is quirk and Ram's mom. Do you want to guess whether she's an L.I.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.R.E.E.R.E.R.E. Hehehehe. Uh, she appears to be clothed, so uh, looks like-

Oh, that's strange. Looks like the rules are being bent for television. Alright, one more pack? Yeah, let's do it. I already have a duplicate card here, by the way. Oh. I have two of the cards for the magnificent Farengi, one on each pack. Uh, the packs themselves say something that the box doesn't

been, which is look for randomly inserted autograph and costume cards. I wonder if, uh, is that going to include a scrap of fabric? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like, uh, like some premium baseball cards will give you a postage stamp-sized piece of a baseball uniform.

They smell horrible. It's just the crotch section. Yeah. It's the lucky, lucky playoffs underpants section. Yeah, given this latest pack a nice bend. Yeah. To bust the cards loose. Okay, Adam, I have one more special card.

What? Yep. And it actually kind of continues a theme that we already started. It's another Allies and Enemies card for Keko Brian. Woo! She is an ally. I mean, it'd be pretty fucked up to put her on the other side of something from her own daughter. I don't really know what she's an ally of. I guess the Federation? Is that what that is? She's an ally of foreign foods, I guess. I've got a card for Shattered Mirror, famously

one of the Mirror universe episodes onto yes 9 that I'm excited to get to. I have one for the Make Wease Part One, and it's a picture of Quirk trying to apply a Romulan or Vulcan lady with some booze. Ooh, she's got a lot more of a bold eye than your average Romulan or Vulcan. Like she's really going with like an editorial makeup look on that eyeshadow. That's something you would wear to work is what I'm saying. One thing I'm noticing and flipping through these cards so far is the myriad costume choices that they're giving a Navisator.

Like I'm seeing ballgowns, I'm seeing a crazy leatherware. It looks like there's a lot of fun textures and colors coming up. I'd say put that back in your pants. Very exciting. I love and fun. Let's open another pack. Yeah, I mean another thing that is super clear is just how much more show there is Yeah, to see like they most of these cards are unfamiliar to me because I have not seen these episodes Yeah, there's a lot

We have a lot in store I want to get a costume card. I want a sig I want a signature I'm kind of feeling like I want to really go through these cards to get some signature. Yeah Oh, I got another ally. Oh boy I got a signature. Shit. I've also got some really stuck together cards here. Okay well what do you got? We got in a little bit of trouble last time we had a spoiler so I feel like we should Say that this is a Main cast character that is a later season situation

So if you're like if you're watching the show fresh and you don't want this spoiled Maybe hit the skip 30 button a couple of times my signature card here is Nicole de Bohr the plays Isri Dax. Hey, wow, very nice. Really signed it, I think. Yeah, that's a real ink signature. Looks like actual blue sharpie on this card. Wow, very cool.

I feel like the blue sharpie is like what they use, you know? Like that's definitely the same pen that they used for the signatures on the On the other cards that we've opened when we sign posters after our shows we've been using a gold and a silver Pen like a paint pen though because yeah usually our posters have tended to have kind of dark colors so the paint pen Pops maybe this time we bring the blue pens out. Or uh... Let's see how our poster looks for our next tour. My ally card is Tora Ziyal, who looks like a person of Cardassian origin.

Daughter of Golducat. Wow. She's got kind of a mullet in that picture. Yeah! She's a... She's a business in the front party in the back kind of Cardassian. Another special card I got looks to be one in a series, like... Like, maybe a puzzle piece.

Oh yeah, it looks like there's a... There's cut off text on the back, so you have to put it next to its... It's counterpart to text on the back So you have to put it next to its its counterpart to reveal the Sintillating secret message. That's fun, right? They're asking you to stick these cards together in a way that is a little different than how they come to you You're going for another you can't be stopped. I thought I thought we were both going into a signature. Oh Really?

This could mean a very lengthy pre-roll for us. Good. I got a repeat of the Q-list card. I have another signature. Oh, shit. Well, that's it then. I think there are two signatures. Are there really two signatures per box? So I think you got it man. Damn. You got both. It seems stingy. What's that sig? Oh you're not going to believe it Adam. It's another Ezri's axe.

It's a... It's a... Bajoran guy played by Lawrence Monson. Hovath! Okay, so I'm reading the box and it says, autograph cards are one every 20 packs. Oh. So this gotta be one of the packs.

Oh, so check it out. Uh... The costume cards are one out of every 100. Oh. Allies and enemies cards are one out of every three, so we're doing pretty good on Allies and enemies. Yeah, we're punching hard on these Allies and enemies cards are one out of every three, so we're doing pretty good on allies and enemies. Yeah, we're punching hard on these allies and enemies.

Oh, I sort of like our rate. Having already gotten two autograph cards. This box is going to get a lot less exciting. The further we go. Well, who knows what, like, maybe we got a box that's just full of them. Like... Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, that's like the randomness overall, but...

Yeah. Alright, I want to open up one more pack. Or a pack until I get something special. Okay. Because I'm not feeling very special. Then... Adam, you're very special to me Wow, oh

You know what's fun about the duet card is the image that they use for it is Is a gall-dare heels dead body on the ground on the promenade and like you don't see any faces It's just his corpse more in standing over him yeah just a great great moment from that episode that's the the defining image of that episode I would say yeah there's a real sound it uh it makes me feel bad. Oh, I got a special card here. Yeah? It's a ships of the Dominion War. Oh.

Is the card and it looks like one of the built-tilly hollow card effect cards. It's very folly. Oh yeah? Got a folly card and for Cardassian warship. Looks like a great big gallery class spacecraft on it. Oh wow, yeah. This is a nice foiling on this card.

Right? Did a nice job. There's some delicious foil work on that. I got one from... Wrap my leftovers with that card. I got one from me. Wrap my leftovers with that card. I got one from that episode that was based on the movie Predator, Captive Pursuit. Oh yeah. That's dudes the show up and just shoot the promenade up and everybody's like,

Alright well that's just their culture. I am, uh, I'm frequently surprised at which shot they choose for the episode. Like the episode for the Nogas, you may be surprised to know it does not feature the Nagas. It's Jake and Nag eating lollipops. Like clearly the most memorable part of the Nagas episode. Yeah. I have one last allies in enemy's card atom. Yeah. It is Admiral Bill Ross! Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh! It's just a...

Just a ponchy... High status white guy from what I can tell. Once you make it to Admiral, you can begin to let yourself go a little bit. Yeah. Around the midsection. Yeah. All you do is roundhouses and chow down. Once you make it to Adam roll you can begin to let yourself go a little bit. Yeah around the midsection. Yeah You just all you do is roundhouses and chow down All right Adam. What do you say we get into the episode that we came here to talk about today? All right, I can do that

Let me put my cards up with my other cards My customizable playing card game cards. Oh, that was fun. That was fun to do again. That was great. It felt old school in a fun way. We came here to do, though, and talk about season two, episode six of Deep Space Nine, Malora.

What? Do you realize how incredible this is. No, of course you don't. So we start with this doctor's log. And Bashir is really excited because the first elation in Starfleet has been stationed on Deep Space 9. She's a cartographer. And he's been like getting ready for her arrival. The brewing planet of Elysia known for its super low gravity, right? Yeah. And he has kind of done to this lady what

Jordy did to Leab Brahms. I'm guilty of a terrible crime, doctor. In that he's kind of pre-fallen in love with the idea of her, without actually having met her? Yeah, this filled me with that creeping feeling of dread. Yeah. Like, how do they ever pay this off that isn't a woman arriving to realize that she's been spied on? For most of her life. Yeah, it goes over well. No, I have been invaded, violated. And like the issue is she comes from a low gravity planet.

So she needs a wheelchair and they have to do a lot of ADA retrofitting around the station. I mean, the station was grandfathered in because it was a pre-ADA construction, but now that they're bringing somebody in that actually needs to wheel around the station, they've got to put ramps in. We've done the best we can with the ramps. The Kardashians obviously didn't ever in mind if they built this place. I guess it sounds like there's just hover technology that would work on a Federation starship but because of the like metals that the Cardassians use, it just won't.

They take a lot of time to tell the viewer why they're doing it this way, basically. And the Federation people are doing that cheerful, over-helpful thing where they're like, we're doing a good job for a good person. And this person is bound to appreciate this. Yeah, it's even like, it's even got some of that like, like we make fun of it, but that kind of, there's something endearing about it too, that TNG naivete, like when, when, when word comes down on the radio that her ship has pulled into dock. Yeah. Like Bashir and Dax look at each other like, yay! A new friend!

And like from that perspective, I really get Melora's vibe and being like, God, can you just leave me alone? Like I'm just trying to, like this is a work trip for me. Every time you're touching the engine, you're touching me real professional. Because when she comes on board like she's really struggling you know she works walks of the cane until they get her in the in the chair but from an emotional standpoint the walls are up she's not interested in being helped over the threshold she's not not psyched that Bashir took it upon himself to modify

the wheelchair in any way. I'll just have to adapt. I feel like by and large people who are in the Federation in their yearly reviews are graded on a number of things, but one of those things that they're graded on is like how easy they are to work with. And one of the things that strained credulity about Malor's character for me was like, you know, there's a completely understandable feeling that she has about being coddled. Right. But also she's kind of adjourned. And I think she needs improvement in that aspect of her review.

Otherwise, I don't think she's going to go very far. She's an Ensen and she's big-dogging people. Right, she big-dogs look to the commander. Like she's, I guess she's fresh out of the academy, which maybe excuses some of it, but also she's been at the academy for a few years, right? Like, what happens when you go to the academy?

Because when Wesley came back from the academy, he was super angry and an asshole, too. Hahaha. Everybody just feels so bad about failing that Kobayashi Maru test. It just ruins their mood for years. So she throws a wet blanket on the moods of these helpful crew people right away. I mean, she's also expressing something that I think a lot of people that are differently abled feel,

which is that they don't want all of that attention of people stopping what they would be doing otherwise to help because it kind of feels like, I mean, I imagine it feels like you just have the entire focus of the room on you at all times, every time you go try and do something if you're Yeah, wheelchair or whatever and That has got to feel like a bad, you know, like if you can't get out from under that

I can imagine that being really oppressive. I think mostly she just might be disappointed at her shitty looking wheelchair Like they they rented it from a drugstore on the promenade and fixed. For some reason, aerodynamic wheel covers to the wheels. It's a regular wheelchair that they got some garbage can lids to put over the wheels up. Malora observes that there's been some changes to the chair, is that a fucking bike bell? Give me a break. She's super pissed about this. She's like, I gave you the schematics to this chair and my room. Did you fuck with my room too? Or just the chair? Yeah. And that, that stings a little bit. Yeah. So, that's our kind of a story. We introduce a B story, which is that Quark is in the process of selling some kind of,

I guess they're bracelets or, they're like napkin rings or something. They look to me like mom-bangle bracelets, you know? Like chunky and fun, and you just sort of mix and match them. Right. Yeah. Taking some pottery classes down at the community center. Yeah, I'm really just trying to get out there. Yeah. Get some hobbies.

You know, a lot of my friends have moved away and I don't want to be lonely. You know, me and your father have grown apart a little bit, but I feel like I'm finding myself. Thinking about trying to have sex with a lady. I thought I'd miss my one chance in college. But Facebook has put me back in touch with some people that I never thought I'd see again. Anyways, all this jewelry is just my way of saying, I'm feeling like a new me. But yeah, so this alien, it's that lofihogget kind of alien, which I forget what their species

is. California raisin. Is this species, I think? So quirk and that guy are in the midst of elbow bumping the deal for to exchange these napkin rings for 199 bars of gold press latinum. Quark is totally feeling like the contemporary something in 99 cents salesmanship. Right. Yeah. Feel like a tremendous value. Yeah, this guy feels like he's

just giving up 100 bars. In fact, he's more like he's giving up 200 bars. But a very sinister alien with T. Kettle handle loaf on his face, walks into the bar, and it really changes Quark's mood. Quark is pretty concerned about this guy's arrival. He's threatened by a dick nose who does not beat around the bush about his interest in killing him. Yeah, this guy has a weird approach to murder,

which is his stated intent, is that he states his intent. I think Cork also has a strange position with regard to having been threatened with murder. He does not bring this up with Odo until like many, many seems later. Right. Yeah, and it's just another example of how crime on Deep Space 9 works really differently from everywhere else. Like, Odo is always going and telling Quark that he's aware of whatever Quark scheme is. People are coming to Quark and telling Quark that he's in for it, but then just like hanging

out and like, I guess buying drinks and stuff like, I'm going to order dinner at your bar, but then I'm going to dump the soup on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. Really took a page out of the, the Klingon Playbook on that. The story with him is that he was involved in some sort of prohibition style, stealing of Romulan ale. Yeah, they were space age rum runners,

and Quark did not get in trouble and sent to a labor camp, but this dude did. You ever do that? It was a valid cut. Yeah, it feels very much like the thing you did in school that you weren't caught for, but your friend was. It's not a great feeling. Oh man, yeah. I was always the one that got caught.

Yeah. She refers to it as the Malora problem. She shows up in ops and she's like greeted very kindly by Cisco and she throws a ton of dude back in his face. Where are you outraged by this? Because she doesn't like that he was conferring with Dax and Bashir in her absence because they were discussing something

that had to do with her. To Cisco's credit, he's like really not flapped by this. He's like, yeah, they're my senior officers. I talk to them all the time about a lot of different things and it's not really your place. I don't need to run by the minutes from my meeting past you before we start this one. Melora describes the Melora problem

as her challenges becoming other people's big deal. But the Melora problem to me seems more like she's just not very fun to work with. Yeah, yeah. It's not fun to be treated as though you're ill, but also like the solution to that is not to treat everybody else as though their assholes for considering you at all It's so weird to see like you see aliens of different personality traits a lot Yeah, but it feels rare to see a Federation jerk right most of the time the problem with Federation people is

They're maybe a little spectra me like Barcl, or maybe they're clumsy, or whatever, very innocent problems, personality-wise, but Molora is aggressively almost cruel in the defense of her different abilities. It's kind of the racism problem, where if you are a person of color going around, anytime somebody is an asshole to you, you have to wonder whether that was because racism problem where like if you are a person of color going around like anytime somebody is an asshole to you you have to wonder whether that was because they're being racist or not. Yeah. Like every time somebody makes any

consideration of her she had she's stuck wondering is this because I'm in a wheelchair or because they would have just done this one way or the other. Exactly. So she's you know justifiably defensive. She just also, like, you know, could use some better tools for dealing with this. Bishir seems either uniquely interested or uniquely able to, like, crack through her exterior. Right. And he's in love with her the way Jordi loves a stranger and yet Melores attempt to bronze him into leaving her alone fails. Yeah, he does not play it the same way that Jordi does. And he also

doesn't I mean it's like what he has done is not quite as ski-vy as what Jordy did to Brahms. How many other programs did you create? Perhaps dozens of them won for every day of the week, won for every move. So in that way, she has less to be concerned about, but also he's able to get under skin and to convince her that she can be vulnerable around him. You've decided I need a friend Is that an attack and she starts to be like she starts to admit that the walls she has up are because she

really values being able to achieve What she's achieved on her own terms and without you know a bunch of Assistance from other people. Like, she wants her accomplishments to be her accomplishments and not something that she would never have been able to do without assistance, which is a tricky tension to have, you know?

I just wish that his interest in her felt less like she is a medical problem for him to fix. Yeah. And like there's a scene fairly early on when they're getting to know each other where it's just fucking bishir praddling on about himself and about his great failure at curing someone. Right. He's like, why did I become a doctor? We'll let me tell you and take up all of dinner telling you this. Yeah, they're...

Super self-centered story. Their intimacy becomes more believable to me. I think if he is more interested in her and her deal, rather than sharing himself with her, but though maybe that's true to Melora's deal because she's such a hard nut to crack anyway. Maybe if you're on a date with her, all you can do is talk about yourself. But it is like, I mean, this is her story.

She's definitely the main character in this episode. And I do want to know more about her. Like I feel like if he'd had a quicker answer to why did you become a doctor and then asked her, why did you become a cartographer? She probably had an interesting answer, you know? She's the first of her species to join Starfleet to leave this planet and go to, you know, live in a society with much more gravity than she's used to, like that she's got an interesting backstory that we don't get any of. Yeah, I wish we got a little more of that.

It's an interesting, like we have not gotten to know Bashir very well over the season and a half. And so maybe they just saw it as another. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting the way he kind of kills her with kindness. Like he really won't take asshole for an answer. Whatever it was in him that made him leterus and creepy with Dax, he appears to have a better handle on now. Yeah, I really think that they took him back to the drawing board for season two. And we talked about that a little bit in a recent episode,

but the character seems really different. Yeah, I agree. So they go to her apartment at one point and like she has it rigged up so that she can go low G when she's off work. Because otherwise she has to have like a structural, like she has like an exoskeleton on her uniform. She's mostly in the wheelchair,

but can stand up and like walk with the cane for brief distances. But when like Bashir starts to really appeal to her as a hang and not just as a colleague, like she takes him back to her room and shows her, shows him her, her bouncy castle. This opened up a ton of questions about like, the first question I had was, how can Bishir not be familiar with the idea of zero gravity? Like, it does do the lives in space. It's so fucked up. Like, he's like someone who works at SeaWorld

who falls into a pool and doesn't know how to swim. This should be the easiest thing for him to rock. Yeah. We know that Wharf had low gravity combat training at the Academy. Yeah. It feels like everyone should have gone through that. Yeah.

But that movie came out, this predates first contact. So they did the same. So that's a red card. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, I mean, it's the 24th century and they've had artificial gravity forever. Maybe it's just like, nobody likes free fall.

We like the gravity. Yeah, yeah. What do you think zero G sex is like? It's gotta be very difficult. Because you need that sink and bounce. If there's one thing I know right now, having done the show for the time that we've done it, you need the right sink and bounce to

To a sexual Escapade you need to be able to push off something and not fly across the room It's like if you're waitless. I bet it's like when you're both in the swing, right? I mean, I'm speculating. Yeah, there is a great book by Mary Roach called Packing for Mars that's about the science of humans going to space. And she could not go to the bottom of this, but there is some speculation that either NASA or the Russians have actually tried this out,

but nobody knows what the result was. The result has got to be difficulty in cleaning the capsule once you return to gravity. Like that is. Yeah, you don't want to use the rhythm method. I don't know how you get it out of the buttons, right? Yeah, no, you don't want to use the rhythm You get it out of the buttons right? Yeah, no, you don't want to use the rhythm method in Micrographically because it gets everywhere. Yeah

Not just landing on the lower back I'll be taking my food out of the straw pouch from here on out Not gonna expose it to this mist of whatever this is. Yeah, that's actually one thing that you learn in that book is how nasty it gets up there. She has transcripts in that book from the Apollo missions where in the middle of discussing how some experiment is going with Houston or whatever, they comment about how a turd just floated by. Oh my God. Yeah, because the bathroom on in 0G

is like literally like suction cups to your butt, and it tries to suck the material down. Sure. But gravity does a lot of that work. And if you don't get it just right, I think called pop corn kerneling can happen where the fan blade kicks it up and sends it back the wrong way.

Oh no. Yeah, yeah, space is gross, dude. This is why Bashir doesn't like around in microgravity. Yeah, just the poop implications of it alone as a medical Professional he probably knows more about that than anyone You've got to be just like pig penning skin flakes around in that environment too, like the dantriff cloud alone. Yeah. He's got to be awful. Yeah, people with allergies need not apply to NASA.

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It's interesting how little is made over the idea of a supervisor and subordinate. Right. Right. And also a doctor and patient doing that. Yeah. Did that feel because they never, because things never got weird as a result, do you think that is a way for the show to telegraph to the viewer that it doesn't need to be weird?

This happens all the time. Yeah. that it doesn't need to be weird. This happens all the time. Yeah, I mean, I think the only time it even comes up is Molora talking to DAX. Like, do you think romance can work in Starfleet? Right. And DAX is only a only positive experience with that as a 150-year-old example. Yeah, poor DAX, right? Yeah. DAX is just straight jacking it all the time. Yeah, if anybody has karate stands being flicking at this point, it's DAX. Yeah. So the big high stakes A storyline tension is around

Malora wanting to go on cartography missions in a run about solo. wanting to go on cartography missions in a run about solo. And I'm so glad you reminded me Ben because her mission there is almost completely forgotten for large parts of this episode. She's really pissed off that the commander is insisting that she take decks with her. But she's, you know, she pretty quickly reveals that she can't really be trusted alone because she, you know, takes on too much and she gets distracted going down to some supply office and trying to get something and like bailed out on her, on her walker and I guess smashed the controls of her exoskeletan so her like arm's legs are moving without without any control. Yeah. For this character

specifically that seems like a terribly humiliating experience. Yeah the embarrassment of it I thought was was well. And I was fairly impressed by Dax's ability to just pick her up. Yeah. She does seem light, right? Yeah. She must be if she comes from low gravity planet. Yeah, and the way that they made that physicality.

And would she be the same? I don't know how science works. I'm reading the expanse novels right now and they don't really do anything with this in the television show because it's probably still too expensive digitally but the characters that grow up in like the outer planets and like in the belt all like have grown up with less gravity than most people. So they are tall and have like weird shaped heads because their bodies have never had like the relentless pull of Earth's gravity on them. Oh yeah. They haven't

had their turds sucked out of them the way they are here. Yeah. They're used to popcorn turds. I think it's I think the actual term in that is fecal popcorning is the term. I don't know. I think popcorn turns is just a fun spin to put on it. You know, like sometimes it's fun to eat just a big ol' bowl of popcorn turds instead of just the one big turd. Yeah, that a shrimp preference.

Yeah. Sure. But her work situation couldn't be less interesting to either the show itself or to the viewer really. Like, it only serves to move the characters around. Yeah, well, you know, but she starts working on this way. He can like augment some part of her brain to send stronger signals to her muscles and she'll be able to walk around like she grew up in closer to 1G of gravity but

You know, it's like it's fleeting and it's like a treatment that's gonna take a while Do you think what bishir is prescribing has a sexual benefit to? It's interesting. What if I told you I could make you stronger down there? He's like, yeah, it just be nice if you kind of push back every so often. I don't want to feel like I'm the only one doing work. Don't worry deep space 9, where you've, where you've staff making Bashir a creep, we will do the heavy lifting for you. We will never forget. Her character changes so much from the first five minutes, she's like really recalcitrant

and prickly, and by like halfway through the show, she's vulnerable with Bishira and confiding things in him about what it feels like to her to have this difference of ability from other people. And it's pretty radical and I feel like pretty well acted and pretty well written. It's like more of a character change than I feel like a lot of one-off characters get. Right. Like Lieutenant Toast never had anything to do. Now, RSVP Lieutenant Toast. Lieutenant George Pryman, Starfleet Security.

POST POST MEN! Any excuse to use the Toast Drop? When she started like showing that you wanted to bang this year, I was convinced that she was going to buy the farm by the end of the episode. Right. Well, maybe we should discuss a little more of the B story as it relates to the A story because they do wind up crushing paths, don't they? Yeah.

Like a friendship bracelet of plotting where we're braiding the two together towards the end of the episode because Fleetcott breaks into Quark's apartment after hours. The Kardashians clearly brought a similar ethos W slash R slash T locks to their design of Deep Space Nine that the Federation brought to designing the entrepreneur. The doors aren't locked, the runabouts aren't locked. He coerces quirk by the throat to hop onto a runabout, which coincidentally happens around the time that Malora and DAX are coming back from a mission, yeah? Well, yeah, I mean, this dude is in the bedroom looking to do the murder that he's promised

to Quark. And Quark is like, why not instead of murdering me, I give you a bunch of money that I am expecting to be receiving shortly. You never want to roll up to a drop with an unannounced buddy though. And this is the problem with the California raisin does not realize is happening. Like, there's a stranger here. Yeah. And he's not feeling the stranger danger to to analogize the California raisin is one of the nihilists and caught his Walter you know and cork is the dude and the drop does not go well. One way in which the drop goes extremely well is is when the raisin gets phasered.

The bracelets go directly into Cork's arm. He flies back while pushing the purse full of napkin rings out, and it just lands right in the numbers for Cork. Very elegant. Yeah, I heard that raisin was all state in high school as a QB. It was really good. Some people thought he could go to the show, but then he heard his arm. Oh, you're right in the numbers.

I still got it. This is all happening as Malura and Dax are like, you know, just talking girl talk, talking romance in Starfleet, getting off a runabout when Quark and the, and Kot come around the corner and Kot, you know, he hostages them all into the runabout and tells them to take off. No one thinks to Star Trek fight Kot. Like they have the numbers.

Right. There's never an attempt to resist him. That gun must be very scary, but no one even talks about the idea of the gun being particularly scary in the way that the Gore weapons have been that we've seen previously. Yeah, I don't know that you necessarily need to like sell being scared of a gunman, but they also, I mean, it's one of those Star Trek security problems where it's like, why don't you just beam that guy onto the pad in the, in ops and disable his weapon in mid beam, which we know is a thing that can happen.

Yeah. And then like, it's all good, right? Yeah. One would think. I mean, like, they're aware of this abduction happening. They're like watching it on the screens and stuff, right? Like Odo is Odo is watching the progress of it and reporting on it. So, uh, yeah, it's one of those I'm just wave our hands and get past it, but they're on the I guess they're on

the oranoko and sisco and chief of brain. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Get on the Rio Grande to chase them through the wormhole. A lot of people feel like the Oranoko ruin the Beatles. Yeah, turns out that's just a hateful way of people marginalizing a woman who's an artist in her own right. It was so much fun to see that thought come together in the room. That B-joke was more entertaining to look at than here.

I could see like if you became the meme like I could see the scientific formula come together to create that joke as you stared off into space creating it. And we should say that like before this, Malore has expressed a little bit of buyer's remorse on these treatments that are helping her walk around. Yeah. Because one thing that she's really talked out whether or not she wanted to go through with them. How could I possibly have second thoughts?

The thing that she's really not loving about it is that she can't go back to her apartment and turn the gravity down at night. Because I mean, I guess it must be the same thing where like astronauts that come back from long periods of being stationed on the International Space Station have like brittle bones and weak muscles

because you're just atrophy up there. Yeah. She's like, my tits are getting super dumpy in this high-gravity environment. I thought I was rocking cannons. Yeah, I came in here looking like Madonna. Now it's just over the shoulder boulder holders. That's not what I want.

That would have been an interesting place to take it. Like, there's a certain vanity associated with how her body conforms to a gravity environment that changes, that has to change. It must. If she had the dick nose that Cod is rocking, like her dick would be on the ground. Her face would be fucked up.

I felt really bad for that actor that played Cod, having, like, I was picturing what, craft services. Yeah. You know, like, he's restricted to celery and carrots as his foods. Yeah. Yeah.

Or like, taking a hot dog out of the bun and sliding it inside ways. Yeah, let us straw drinking for that guy. I guess the reason I brought up the lack of resistance from the people to him is that I wanted that used against him. Like I wanted someone to grab his face like it had a handle on it. Yeah. And like wing him into a wall, but we never get pay off that way. Yeah, that that check-ups T-Hettle handle never pays off. He's got check-ups nose.

So they go through the wormhole and, and, and, and, and, and, O'Brien are like hot on their heels and, and they're like, they're on the face time and God is like, I'm going to start killing hostages unless you fuck off. And, and to demonstrate that he is serious, he blasts Melora and she like bails out off the chair that she's sitting in and off screen. Like you basically shoots her out of the television. I love how they cross cut ops with this scene and basically no one flinches. Like they watch someone basically be executed in front of them and Bishira especially is like, hmm damn. But like emotion is like, hmm damn. But like, emotion is appropriate in this moment. Yeah, they should have been horrified. Like, Starfleet's don't get abducted and murdered like this.

Yeah. This is crazy. Yeah. I mean, think about as many times as somebody was like kidnapped or hijacked or something in TNG, and nobody ever got killed. Fili caught is like as evil as it gets on the show. And for some reason I never felt threatened by him, was it because he looks ridiculous?

Because he has dorky loaf. I mean, maybe that's, maybe that's what it took. Yeah, I think he might be right. Like he's got that, he's got that like 70s feathered hair that covers his ears too. Yeah. Like, it just looks silly. Yeah, the episode asks you to fear him, but if you don't, I think the episode falls apart a little bit.

Yeah, I mean, he's not scary. And the episode may be asked you much. It turns out Malora did not, in fact, you know, the rumors of her death have been wildly exaggerated. And she manages to kind of like back herself up on the floor to some control in the back of the runabout. There's apparently a button that turns the gravity off and on that back panel there. Yeah, you got to get to that button. Yeah. So once she does that, she is able to do a single act of Null G Star Trek fighting, which is kind of torpedo herself across the room at this guy. Did you ever play Mortal Kombat?

I thought that looked like a Raiden move, like the Raiden spear across screen. Raiden brings the Lollis Victory Baby Paladin. Except for she didn't like blast out his back, just spying in her hands or something. Right. That would have been great. They cut to the exterior of the run-of-out

and the windshield just looks red. Just painted red. Right. Yeah, it's like, I wanted to see this fight scene. Yeah. I wanted them to, like, they did a lot of wire work in this episode showing Bashir and her, you know, piling around in a confined space having a 0G combat scene would have been really cool.

Yeah, and I was reading about the production of this app because I was interested in, because it was so unique in its wire work for a Star Trek episode, like what they did to do it. And the reason they didn't use wire work more than they did was because they hand painted all the wires out frame by frame. And I mean, on a show with a production schedule like this, you just don't have the time to do that. That is so time consuming to do. Yeah. That they basically had time, I think, for the three scenes that they did wire comps on, and then that was it.

But they did believe that Melora was going to be a character that returned, and so they kept all the gear for the wire work. And they never ended up using it. I think around season five or six, they ended up throwing it in the garbage. Like, yeah. They're like, we don't have room for this thing.

Let's get rid of it. Did you see anything about why Melora never came back? They just didn't wind up having a storyline that they felt like she fit in? Yeah, I think, you know, she's relegated to the dust heap with lieutenant toast. Yeah, this show is incredibly cruel. It's its characters in that way. The end of the episode is the cut gets taken into custody and Malora and Bashir go have Chow at the Klingon restaurant and she breaks it to him that the treatments that she's

been doing are not going to work for. And it's not, like they don't leave it like she's leaving or anything, but it does kind of feel like a good goodbye in a weird way. This was one of the best parts of the episode to me because when she was shot and then revealed to be alive, I felt like the decision that was given to her earlier would be taken away. And so like the result of having been shot would mean

that she could not continue the therapy and then her agency about that decision would be lost. But I was very satisfied that she was able to keep that agency and make the decision for herself. And that made it seem to be like an earned thing. One thing that was clear from the scene for me though was just how deeply uncomfortable a mariachi of any kind is when they approach your table at a restaurant like Especially when you're trying to have a deep conversation and it gets loud. Yeah, you know

Yeah, you've never heard one ton of made unless you've heard it in the original cling on yeah Yeah, that never gets less comfortable as the centuries pass, huh? Yeah, yeah I really liked that the Well, I remember that there was a Klingon restaurant on this show but I liked that it was like there's a new Klingon restaurant on the promenade. Let's go try it. And then she does like my uncle spoke fluent Chinese and it was real fun to go into Chinese restaurants with him and have him like order from the you, construction paper signs on the walls and not on the menu.

Yeah. Like he's seeing stuff up there that's not in English on the menu and ordering that stuff and like blowing away the staff because he doesn't look like a, he didn't look like a, you know, a cosmopolitan dude who was fluent in her language. Yeah, like Mongolian beef is delicious, but there's some stuff on the special menu

that you just don't know that you have access to without a person like that. And that's Malorra. She can go toe-to-toe with the Klingon restaurant tour. She does not want the rawt that's half dead. She wants the good stuff. There's a great Chinese restaurant, a few blocks from my house that has the two menus.

And on the alternate menu, there's like the stinking tofu. And like the flowery described, like hardcore Chinese dishes that are so delicious. Yeah, right, but are not exactly crowd pleasers in this country. Like, much like how I've always wanted to be the regular at a bar, like the respect nuts from the kitchen at a restaurant like that, I want so bad. Right.

Did you like this episode? I did. I think it's definitely like a, in some ways, a very special episode. You know, it's kind of a bout a thing. But I think Deep Space Nine is better at this than TNG was. You know, when TNG had an episode that's like telling you a thing, it wants you to have values about or whatever, it's like, Wesley, some people take drugs to get, you know, to, because they make you feel good. I would anyone take drugs. Yeah. Deep space nine is, is less ineligant than TNG was in that way, because it does not turn

directly to camera with those opinions. The writer of this episode was confined to a wheelchair. Like this is coming from a very personal place that I think is important to call attention to. Well, and I think that that's like, there's a little bit of courage in depicting Malora as prickly and unlikeable initially, because it makes it a little harder

to wind up empathizing with her as a viewer. She comes in a little bit as an antagonist and winds up being the one you're rooting for. And the one you want to make the best decision for her. You want her to do what is going to be good for Malora in the end. And that's a really cool way to do that, I think. I think that in TNG, like they would not necessarily have had the guts to not start with a likable character. Right. I mean, when you look at the construction of a story as a series of problems that need solving, it is a very efficient way to solve a problem with attitude to have the conclusion be a smile, for example. It's very tidy to do it in that way. And so when

we like her at the end, that's a fast way to end her story in a way that we can understand. Indeed. I think I like the episode to, you know, what like at the end of the last episode, when you were telling me about this one, it was easy to come into it, thinking that it was going to be one of the preachy Star Trek shows. Yeah. I was surprised at how much it did not take that route towards its lessons. It's pretty cool. Well, I guess we don't have P1s, right?

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She's basically just responding to people. And then that's it. I'm just here in the cheap seats, but I counted five there. No reply, I believe. Just, it's true. Send your corrections to Jordan and Jesse of J.J. Go. I, that was, that really stuck out to me as a like she's on screen and I was like oh,

hello. And then I was like oh she's gone. That's it. That's all we get. Goodbye. Yeah. How about you, Ben? My drink Shemota is Bashir just for the way he reacted when she described turning the gravity down as like getting into a hot tub. Yeah. Because he's like, oh, like the erotic potential of it is the only thing that he does in his performance. Like his performance is 100% about processing the erotic potential and 0% about anything else. And that so funny to me like I laughed out loud in that moment and the episode. There are a few other things that can elicit a response like that just by by a description of a possession that you have hot tub is one of them water bed is another. Like it's almost almost purely eroticized. It's

soon as it's discussed. Yeah. So for that reason, Bashir gets my drunk Samota. What are we have coming up in the next episode? Adam, the next episode is season two episode seven, Rules of Acquisition, a Farenki female who has defied the law and disguised herself as a male, risks it all when she falls in love with Quark. Or as Netflix puts it, while engaging in a game of Tango with Rom, Dex, and a young Farenki waiter, Quark is hailed by his leader, Grand Nega Zek. Who has good news for him? I feel like the only thing a Farenki female has to do to pass as a Farenki male is put on clothes, right? Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. The only Farenki female that I have a recent memory of seeing is that picture of Quark's mom.

And she's pretty much the same. Real feast for the eyes. Yeah. It's like a aged fringy loaf is especially upsetting. Yeah. Hey, Adam. So we are on square 14 of Game of Buttholes, the will of the prophets. And you're required to learn as you play. Roll.

We could potentially hit a Quarx Bar if we roll, I think, a four, right? Yeah. Yeah, so shall we roll? Let's do it. Shula! Did I win? Harvey! We roll the six.

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