The Greatest Generation - Deep-V Casual (VOY S3E20)

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

When Harry gets his DNA test results back, the news about his Roddenberry-inspired heritage gets revealed in a strikingly public way. But when he learns the hard way that men don’t last too long on Taresia, he’ll have to play dirty to make it off the planet alive. Are there any regular mirrors in Star Trek? Has Harry been wearing Taresian genes under his human genes this whole time? Why are Starfleets so stuck up about drugs? It’s the episode that uses all parts of the boy buffalo.Exchange scarves for goods at PodShop.bizSupport the production of The Greatest Generation.  Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Bringengwe the U.S.S. Fortnight Dirk. Do it Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka with my not completely silent co-host Ripley. Ripley wanted to say hi. This is the first show since Halloween that I have attempted to record with Ripley in the room. You may remember that one

failed recording, Ben. I was either on the verge of tears or actually crying because I was so frustrated with the puppy situation, blowing a couple of recording days for us. But she's back, and she's got a chewy, and this thing might just work. That's great. Darwin is actually here as well. So hopefully he can serve as a role model. He being a seven year old boy is a sleepyhead now.

Yeah. Barely ever wants to go on a walk in the morning. Like, it used to be that I would walk this dog between five and 10 miles every day. And I try to take him on a morning walk now and he does his business and then just starts hauling as hard as he can back toward the house. That's amazing.

Like most of the exercise he gets before noon is just like the physical work of pulling my body weight toward our house. So you're saying I have only six and a half more years to go until that blessed time. And then it just throws a switch and that pooch will calm down. Wow, that's amazing. I think I can make it. It was actually really amazing. blessed time. And then it just throws a switch and that pooch will calm down. Wow.

That's amazing. I think I can make it. It was actually really amazing how suddenly he changed. Like right around the time he turned seven, he just kind of became a much lazier talk. I've been surprised at how quickly the six month, bad puppy phase was accurate. Like I had heard, you're gonna do great with house breaking.

She's gonna take to commands easy and training and all that, but then at around six months, there's gonna be a regression. So watch out for that. And almost to the day at six months, shit started falling apart again. And we're back to like waking up a couple times per night to take her out and and all the rest so

Oh man Excited to see what the next hour and change portans for us Yeah, it's me Adam his semi-silent co-host my totally silent co-host and Adam's mind that is a complete mess my totally silent co-host and Adam's mind that is a complete mess. I'm sure you know the feeling, the kind of cord management you need to do when there's a puppy in your studio. Oh yeah. Is a lot.

I thought I had them managed before. Famously, we were recording an episode of Let's Drink about it back in the day when Darwin was a puppy and he got under the coffee table and chewed through one of the mic cables. Yeah. Cut us off mid episode. Ripley chewed through a coax cable in our bedroom and we were like, why are we getting any channels anymore?

This is weird. And it was straight out of Gremlins. Like when the Gremlins chew through the clock radio, cable, like it looked exactly like that. It's amazing what these animals are willing to chew. Hey look, she got up on the couch. Be my guest. Hey, what a cutie. What a cutie pie.

I have a class two rating. Well, do you want to, we just bought this package of Star Trek cards off eBay. Got a whole bunch of Star Trek Voyager trading cards here. Any interest in going to Card War with me, my friend? Oh yeah, let's go back once more into the breach. century behind us. What? On the mark!

What? Yeah, what we've got for the purposes of this game are the Series 2 collector cards. And I don't know about you, Ben, but I have three different flavors of these packages. Yeah, I bought a selection of sealed-in-package cards. It says that there are eight cards plus one tattoo per pack. Hell yeah.

These are from the Skybox company. Oh, and it's advertising an easy open tab here. What is it talking about? I hope the Skybox name means that all of these Star Trek Voyager cards will make our characters look like they're playing basketball in the late 90s. I love those era of basketball cards. Yeah.

I've selected a pack with the doctor, Kess and Nielix on the front. Oh, that's what I selected as well. Where's the easy open tab? Yeah, I don't know what that's talking about. I don't see any tab. You gotta buy something first if you want a tab. My tattoo is probably the most obvious tattoo that you would include in a pack of Star Trek Voyager trading cards. Adam, it's the Chicoet over the eye tattoo. Yeah me too, I got the same one.

Is that the only tattoo they sent? they gave you? It looks little like it looks like like for a little kid's face. Yeah yeah it's it's for kid face for sure which is embarrassing. You'll love the Michael Westmore designed by credit on this. Like he's got a great agent. Anything having the Chico T tattoo has got to have my name on it. Or it's not a Michael Westmore official. What do you say we flip over a card here, my friend? Let's do it. There's a lot of like other paperwork in these packs.

Yeah, there is. Okay, I'm ready to flip. Three, two, one. Oh, mine are stuck together, are yours? No, mine, one. Oh, mine are stuck together, are yours? No, mine are not. You. I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't release it,

but now I have. You get sticky cards, gross. My card is just a screenshot from Caretaker Part One, episode 101 of Star Trek Voyager, and it's a shot of Ensign Kim, Tom Perris, and one of the ladies from the like Oldie, Timmy, farmhouse Sim that the caretaker brought them into. And Harry Kim is holding a tricorder up to this lady. So seems like he's doing some scanning. Sure. Yeah, I mean, who knows if that's gonna beat the cloud?

Is the front of your card is the only thing on it a star date or is it an episode title? That's an interesting choice they made to organize these by star date. Yeah, it says caretaker part one on the back. I'm sure we all remember the episode from star date 48546.2. Mm.

I mean, I barely need to say anything else. That episode is the cleared. And yeah, it's just a picture of the bridge crew on the bridge. Wow. I really wanted to put the temporary tattoo from the package on and take a picture and send it to Bill Tilly to put on our social media. But I don't think I can in good conscience do the Chico Tay tattoo.

No, no, you can't. I don't think that's okay. You could probably do that in private, right? But the thing is that's how it goes. The picture from the party always leak. And then you're disgraced when after you've already entered politics. Right. Yeah, exactly.

It's just a huge bummer. I'm deeply sorry. I recently watched an episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta with my wife, and it was a Halloween episode, and they had one of the characters showed up at the Halloween party in a very problematic Native American style costume Yeah, and the choice that the Bravo television network made was to cut around her the entire time Like they did not show her in this costume at all because they're adequately was so offensive except for the like artwork of the episode on Hulu Is a shot of her in the costume. Wow.

It's a still of her in the costume. So they went all the trouble of editing around this, not showing her in it. And then they made that the icon of the episode. I mean, I was going to say, boy, they really fucked her over, but no, like she fucked herself over. She is the one that made the horrible decision. Yeah, wow.

Huh, well too bad for her. All right, let's flip over another card Ben. Actually who won? Do we know? Man, what's on the picture of yours? It's like the crew, right? It's just the crew on the bridge. I feel like, oh man, like that's kind of interesting. You've got the entire main cast, Minus, Tom and Harry. Yeah. And Oh, and Nielix and Cass.

And I have Tom and Harry. But with a babe. A total babe. What wins? I think we gotta give it to the babe, right? Let's hear it for the babe. Let's flip another one over. Okay.

Three, two, one. Oh boy, this is just confusing, Ben. I don't know if you and the viewers can see what this is. Oh, is it like rocks out the window? This appears to be a puzzle piece. Oh, interesting. On the back it says on screen scenes. And it shows the larger version of what this would assemble into.

And it looks like just a tractor beam being shot at another ship. What I've got is a card in the category of 24th tech, which is, I guess a series of cards within these packages. This one is for memory engrams, and it's one of those birdhead people, the people with the feathers on their heads. That looks like a special card. We're forcing Tom Paris to remember the murder

that they had accused him of doing Yeah So memory and grams is my card. I mean, I think just because mine is so inscrutable You could hardly even call it a card. Yeah, I think yours is yours is gonna be the winner Okay, you want to do best of three or best of five have I already won or do you still have a shot? Let's go for one more. Okay, let's see what we get. Three, two, one.

Okay, what I've got here is another star date card. This one is of a close up of Nelix in a clip show device. Oh, this is the episode about the Fage. This is the episode that introduced the Videans, I guess. Oh, right, and no lungs, Nielix, right? Yeah, they had to give him hollow lungs. I like the picture on the back a lot. It's the moment that Nielix gets the lungs beamed out of his birdie.

So yeah, that's that's what I got. What did you get? I've got a dog that is being allowed because she ate her entire Tuesday. And I think I need to give her another one. That's what it's going to take. Bribery. Yeah.

My card is less of a card and more of an assignment. Okay. Because it is a trivia contest card. That's just what you need. You like that? Yeah. Here's the question. It's the game within a game, Ben.

I love this. You're already ahead on in Card War. How about if you get this right, you'll obviously win Card War. But if you get it wrong, you lose Card War and I automatically win. What do you think of that? Please don't tell me the cost of losing is putting on the temporary tattoo.

I promise I won't take a picture. I cannot change the decisions I made. Ben, the question is this, as he died, the entity known to the Okapa as the caretaker revealed to Captain Janeway in Lieutenant 2Vac that his reason for bringing them here was to... A, use their technology to augment the O'Compah water supply, B, find his companion, the missing caretaker, or C, procreate a replacement. I think it was C. Didn't he want to fuck? Ben, this card does not have an answer to these questions.

Wow. I mean, it's definitely not A. We can get rid of A. Oh, you know what? I think it's B, isn't it? Isn't it finding his companion? Isn't that, I mean... People are screaming at their pod catchers. I'm seeing on some of this extra paperwork that was included in these... Oh, shit. ...in these packages that you answer these and you send it in and then

it's like a contest question four yeah oh shit this is so embarrassing well here's what I'm gonna do Ben I Ben. I'm going to... I think what you can win is an enterprise A. I thought, fuck, what do you want that? If you... Oh no, this is just send us $37 and we'll send you a USS Enterprise model. All right, Ben. You've said your answer is C. And what I'm going to do is enter your answer onto the little sheet they give you in this package.

Okay. And then mail it in to the PO box that they're asking for. If you're the one of the first 100 entries with all the correct answers, drawn, you're going to win a supersized sky motion card from Star Trek Voyager Season 1 series two with an approximate retail value of 39.95 within six to eight weeks after drawing. Cool. The drawing took place then July 1st 1996. I still might be within one of the first hundred though, right? I would argue that less than a hundred people did this, so I really like your chances.

Just as I like your chances of winning Card war today, which I think everyone can agree you have. Oh, man, it feels so good to be back at war with you, Adam. I like that we are using Voyager cards now. Good stuff. Fun. Do you want to get into the dankest episode of Star Trek Voyager, Adam? Oh, I'm now, I'm beginning to wonder if I watched the wrong one.

Sure. It's season four, episode 20. All right. Favorite son. I mean, it is season three though, right? Oh, fuck, it's season three. I wrote it down wrong. It's not the dankest episode at all.

Boy, if I fuck up two more times. Whoa. I'm off the show. Wow. Yeah. Everyone knows that. Everybody knows the rules around here. Reaver course.

Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Ben, we open with another scene of wonder. We're doing this a lot. We're, as the Voyager crew we are bearing witness to something scientific and interesting. This time do or do not there is no trinary star is what they're looking at. And it's so spectacular to most people, but to end some Kim, it's almost like he's seen this a bunch of times before. Didn't we already pass a trinary system like this? Feels familiar, oddly familiar.

Yeah. And there is a Vulcan way of describing what that is. Paradoxical state dependent associative phenomenon. And there's a French way of describing what that is. Desha-fou. Every seven years, my people experience deja vu. Where we could swear we've been this horny before. We just can't place where exactly.

Yeah. So, as they're discussing this, a ship pulls up to them and a captain that is just piled with loaf hails them up and seems to be friendly enough despite his ominous amount of loaf he seems like a total pro yeah like the way he says this is like hey so your ship didn't recognize it that we check it out you know seems like a unique, interesting design you got there. I mean, we are also kind of on a Star Trek. So I'm sure you know how this goes. I introduce myself and my ship, you introduce yourself and your ship.

It seems very perfunctory, professional actions and words on both sides of the view screen here. But one person involved does not have any chill at all. Yeah. Raising shields and firing phasers. Ensign Kim has zero chill. Kim shoots first. He really pulls a grito here. It really isn't. Ensign Kim's reputation either. He usually waits. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He usually makes sure you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. He usually makes sure that the other person has shot. Yeah, before he takes care of shooting his own phaser. We're still trying to figure that out. I was surprised in two ways. One, that you could transfer controls from one station to another. And two, that an Entsen would have the ability to do it. Oh, interesting. Yeah, he does kind of snatch it away from TooFox without asking, but it's all over the interface. It's like, you know, they have that thing now

on Max where you can like control your iPad screen with the mouse from your desktop. Like, it sort of seems like he just clicked and dragged TooFox browser over to his window. If this were possible in like a contemporary workplace, I would have been consurfing the internet a dozen times a day. Like if you could just snatch what was on my screen

and pull it over to your workstation, oh yeah. I would have been fired a thousand times over. No right now, Lumbergum, I'm kind of busy. Adam, again, you can't do the New York Times Crossword puzzle all day on company time. Yeah. Adam, what is a live journal?

What's this wordle you seem to be so interested in? Yeah. That's just a straight shooter with upper management written all over them. We come back after the theme and it is a fucking firefight. Yeah, it's bad. The ship that they are fighting has equal our better combat capability to the Voyager

and it is not experiencing a shortage of torpedoes. The torpedoes are raining down. Oh, Voyager. Get us out of here. Do you think this is kind of a rarity, the strategic equality of these two ships in Star Trek? I always feel like Voyager could kick ass or get its ass kicked But so few of these skirmishes are like this. Yeah, where they could like battle to a draw

Right. I feel like they were like kind of afraid of the case on more because there were like huge ships and in great numbers Yeah, but yeah, like usually it's like the board totally overmatched them and few people have the guts to fight the Videans head on. Right. Usually you have to blow up a parallel universe version of your own ship to kill Videans. Right. Yeah. I mean, bangers are getting dropped all over the place. And it's not just exclusive to the bridge.

We cut around the ship and damage is all over, including an engineering where BLT takes a shot to the face. We don't see the busted hose, but it's clearly a busted hose shooting a bunch of plasma at her. Yeah, the firefight ends more or less with victory going to Voyager. They're not killing these people, but they have taken out their weapons array and the ship recedes and everybody kind of turns on the bridge to look at Harry like Harry, what the fuck? I want to know exactly what you thought you were doing. I love Janeway here. Like she ends the fight bringing the wood as hard as she can at this other ship, turns

them away and then carries that same amount of aggression right into Kim. He's trying to explain himself. He's like, that whole, welcome to Nassarri territory line was a bunch of bullshit. They were not in fact welcoming us. They were getting ready to shoot us. And there is no strong evidence to support his case. I'm suspending you from duty. It's a uniquely Star Trek conflict

where it's less about him having not followed orders and gone rogue and more about, wow, you're really acting strangely. Maybe you should get that checked out while you're suspended. Yeah. Cause like in a military vessel, that would be while you're suspended. Yeah. Cause like in a military vessel, that would be like the top line thing. Like you shot without me ordering you to shoot.

We can't have that on the bridge. You know what captains hate having to say more than anything is we haven't fired. Yeah. You know, yeah. It pisses us off. We don't like it. So go down to Six Bay, get that gash on your head, look that, and in the meantime, your off duty,

security officer Kevin Nealin is gonna escort you down there. When you're suspended from your bridge duties, do you still get to use the holodeck or you can find a quarters? Oh, I don't know. It seems like the privilege of partying with a side-slang guy would be something that you would want to remove from somebody that's misbehaved the way Harry has. I mean, depending on what you're into, that could also be a form of punishment.

I guess so. But what is also a form of punishment is by Kim going to Six Bay, he gets to witness what his decisions have wrought. Blanna almost got killed. It's my fault. Yeah. The consequences of his action are that BLT looks like somebody who stayed at our post. Yeah.

She looks like someone who got a little too aggressive with the chocolate cake. Like, you know, like the pictures of a toddler given a little too aggressive with the chocolate cake like You know like the pictures of a toddler given a cake too early for their age It looks like she dipped her face and hands into that cake. Yeah Kess is the one person on the ship that does not seem to be super pissed off at Harry. She's a very sweet with him Harry you can't undo. It's been done But he feels super guilty about this and you know, he like was very certain of himself before but is now in retrospect wondering what came over him and It's kind of a shocking moment for him too.

I love the emotional bends of a cast telling you that you're doing the best you can man, like it's tough out here and Kim going, all right, thanks. You're really making me feel better and then sontering back out into the waiting arms of this guy with the dustbuster. Young Kevin Neal and did not get distracted and walk away. Yeah, and he's not over it. He's not over it then.

He's not over it that night when he's trying to sleep. Yeah, Harry has a bad dream featuring fresh and up BLT and young Harry Kim with Mendoccan Pox and his mom, who was very disappointed with him. Oh, you need to some Mendeline lotion for those Pox, right? I don't know about that.

Yeah, he wakes up and tries to splash some water on his face, looks in the mirror, and he's looking like Mr. Timisin with these patches around the fringes of his face. Ah, there you are, my dear. Where have you been? I've been waiting for you. You don't look in the mirror in Star Trek without seeing something fucked up looking back at you, right? There are no regular mirror looks. Yeah, it's either a jump scare or a loaf situation.

I wish we lived in bathrooms a little longer on Star Trek 2 because the way the sink works by pulling it out, I want to know more about, like, is it carpeted in your bathroom? Because that's... Oh, yeah. I've got some feelings about that that I don't love. That's the way the elderly do things. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you could argue that Starfleet chips are ships of the elderly, in a lot of ways, informant function. So true. Yeah. So these patches on Harry's face are enough to send him back to Six Bay, where the doc explains that, uh, medically, these are not a problem, but like Mr. Timerson, he will have to commit suicide in a couple of decades. Setting a standard age for the resolution makes it uniform for everybody. Yes, I hadn't really thought of it that way. I love how much Mr. Timerson is being brought up as a concern. Like, let us never forget Mr. Timerson.

Yeah. His daughter was role-layer and we got to keep that guy in our hearts. I know. My father taught me to cherish the resolution one of the great dads. Yeah, seriously Smash the locks on it. That was good if that is my only reason to stay alive It's not enough almost almost quite Almost not quite. In Six Bay, I couldn't help but wonder if Kim is being suspended.

Why is he wearing his uniform around all the time? Instead of off-duty clothing? The more I thought about this, the more I figured that it would have looked a weirder if he did, right? I guess so. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't want to lean into his suspension just yet. And also, everyone's casual clothing is so brightly colored and fun.

I feel like it would have been a visual contrast against the vibe you were supposed to have when you're with him, right? I did read that there was a deleted scene in this episode where Harry goes from the sink over to his closet and he's like, I just don't feel like I have an outfit dour enough to reflect the fact that I'm off duty right now. So he goes in a Nielix's closet and it's like nothing but Kess's old onesies? I thought they were very distinguished. BLT is waking up while they are talking

over in the corner of Six Bay. And she is in rough shape. She's going to need to spend at least another day, but she's all better. She had a hairy kind of joke around a little bit. And then Harry's like, what happened to you? I kind of feel like it's my fault. And so he marches up to the ready room

and throws himself on the mercy of the captain. I thought it was weird how short he stopped in his apology, though, to BLT, because like he walks right up to the line of telling her why he would apologize, because at the time BLT is like, what do you have to worry about, man? Like, should happens, we're in Star Trek. Like eventually you're gonna take a girder to the head or you're uniform full of Italian sausage is gonna explode if you work in engineering, like these things happen.

But Kim does not tie off the conversation in a way that he takes full responsibility for. Yeah, I mean, I guess he feels like that's something he's reserving for the captain. for. Yeah, I mean, I guess he feels like that's something he's reserving for the captain. Yeah. Yeah, and boy oh boy, when Kim walks into Janeway's office, he's totally erect. Yeah.

Like he's waiting to be told to add ease. It's like the most military feeling moment I can remember in a long time in this show. Yeah, and a reminder of how low an instant is like this is how he should be walking into Janeway's office every day. How he should walk under the bridge, you know, yeah, he's throwing himself on her mercy. And she actually has some good

news for him. His suspicion was right. That that sudden feeling of suspicion and loathing that he had when he saw the ship was justified. I was surprised by this because it seemed like during the initial investigation there would not be anything that indicated that this other ship was weapons high. Oh, it did not, but that tetrian surge. It could have been anything, but they went through the data and found that it was, in fact, their weapons heating up. Which brings us back to the larger question.

How did I know? They lock out onto the bridge and they're getting attacked by more of these ships, but Harry Kim has an idea of where they can go to be safe. Yeah, I mean, it worked out pretty well before his weird feelings about things in this area. So... Let's throw the safety of the ship on the... Yeah, using that as a justification for choosing Kim's suggestion here is how things play out.

Yeah, weird. This gets weirder as it goes on. Voyager falls out of warp in the system that Harry directed them to and when he sees a planet on screen, he says, Teresia. Yeah. I already like it. This is the planet from his dream. And it's a great planet because this planet sends a ship out to take out the bad guys, then, sorry, right away. They don't even ask. We get a couple of scenes like this in this episode where ships just pass each other

on their way to other things. And this is like the first instance of that. This is great. Yeah. Once the Missari bug out, they get a message from the Toreezy and Vessel. This lady comes on the screen and she's like, oh, there's Harry Kim. That's the guy we've been looking for. Really glad you're here, bud.

Yeah. In front of everyone on the bridge. Yeah. And she's got the same kind of patches around her face as he does. Yeah. So, uh, this is a real, uh, a real surprising moment. You're too easy. Welcome home. What?

They look related. So we get hairy chemise to commercial and when we come back, a dustbuster club have beamed down to this planet. And, uh, boy, what a welcoming committee. They've got down here. It's a planet of babes, Adam. I know it all seems strange now, but you are one of us, Harry.

Can't you feel it? This is such like a throwback to the Gene Roddenberry dream of the sexual science fiction future, where like you're a man and you're be beam down to a planet full of smoke shows and they don't just want to be friends they need to fuck you for procreation. Sometimes many of them at once. In the bad news? Yeah, I was a little frightened at first because one of these ladies is Terminator 3. I know. I was like, ah, get her away. I like this car. Get your fazers. She gives him a kiss on the lips. She walks right up to him. She's great in this. She was great

in Terminator 3, I thought. I agree. I thought she was one of the highlights of that movie. Yeah. I think the highlight for me was seeing judgment day at the end. That was a pretty brave choice. To an ending to a movie. So, yeah, this is a big expo dump in this scene where the older of these ladies explain, like yeah, like you're not in fact human, you're teary-sian. It's like your whole life up until now has been a study abroad, but now you're home.

We call these embryos ropes that we shoot into space. And they just, they land where they will, impregnating whatever planets, female population happens to be there. And Kim is very defensive of his own mother during the telling of this story. Yeah. It gets kind of dark here. What did you do to her? My mother.

She would have thought you were her natural child. Some non-consensual impregnation seems to be core to the way Thereseans reproduce, which is pretty fucked up. It's a good thing Taiman is there to kind of soften the hard edges of this story and this new situation, because Taiman's like, thing, Taiman is there to kind of soften the hard edges of this story and this new situation because Taiman's like, hey dude, as he's being caressed by his own group of smoke shows.

Don't be afraid to indulge yourself, Harry. I know this can be really hard to process when this information gets imparted to you, but trust me, women will put their hands on you basically non-stop every waking hour for the rest of your life So it's not all bad. Unless you have sensitive face skin, this is really gonna be great for you Look at my face being touched by old dude's woman All of them are onks. I know this is called Toreesia, but I like to call it planet Nerk This is called Toreesia, but I like to call it Planet Nerk. Just nothing but nerking down here. Holy shit, it's Howard Hamlin from Better Call Saul.

You're a shitty lawyer, Howard. Fuck you Jimmy. I couldn't believe that it's the same actor. And the thing that tipped me off is his way of speaking. It's been like decades between this show and Better call solve, but like, uh-huh. His voice hasn't changed at all. Just enjoy yourself while you're here. It was great to see a youthful version of this actor.

I haven't seen that show based on how bad breaking bad was. I think you'll like better call so. I just assume that better call so is also bad. Well, you might give it a try. I like it a lot. Oh, and this guy's in it? Yeah. Is he constantly surrounded by young women?

I think there's less face-touching in that program than this. Sounds like you're pretty lucky. All the dudes are expected to marry several ladies. Yeah, this is a fact that really delights Paris when Taymond tells him, Am I making any sense here? Paris is like, can I get some of that DNA? Yeah.

Leris tells Janeway that Kim was the rope that traveled the furthest to be implanted in the womb of an earth woman. Probably one of the first ones they shot then, if that's the case, right? Yeah, or is he the first to come back from as far away as he went? Very founders-esque actually come to think of it. It is. We really pan-spirmy the hell out of these people, and we're really

impressed at how quickly you got back here. That thing that was happening on Voyager with Kim, where he sort of knew things before they happened, is kind of playing out while he's on the surface. He kind of knows out while he's on the surface. He kind of knows how things work on this planet without being taught them. Yeah, he knows how to use their very confusing looking forks when Terminator 3 brings over some asparagus for him to try. I prepared it myself. Yeah, no asparagus for you, Paris.

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to reason DNA that is now becoming more and more active as he got closer to this part of space. And it's full of genetic memory. Like, that's why he remembered all these things and had these instincts. And so it kind of seems like what the Toreesians told everyone is true. Kim has been walking around with hidden genes inside his normal genes. He's a never-nude.

Is that exactly what it sounds like? And it's a big reason why he's been walking around so stiffly. Yeah. Yeah. Very uncomfortable. Yes. Those are your Toreesian jeans. Yeah. Why he uses so much talc. Right. He's kind of a person in a bottle that way, right? Like the Toreesian shoot these ropes out into space and then if someone's lucky enough to find the note. Yeah. Maybe that could be a fun thing. Down on the planet, he has offered some chill out drugs that he refuses. I don't know why Starfleet are so stuck up about drugs. Drugs can make you feel good. Why do they always refuse?

Because these drugs sound even better than the ones a couple episodes ago. I know. It just lightens the mood. Yeah. And there's no side effects? Yeah. I mean, that was like the first thing he said. You'll like it.

What are you afraid of, Kim? What about no side effects? Sounds bad to you. Yeah. I think I'll pass. Thanks. Yeah. Malia and Tayman are getting married later.

And Kim is invited. One interesting thing about this marriage though is that Taman and his lady friend aren't exclusive. Yeah. No one's exclusive on Treesia. We'll all be joined with Taman tonight. This is a one-guy marrying three ladies wedding that they have planned for the evening and Harry Kim is going to see how this goes and I feel like it'd be just so hard to have a conversation on this planet. Like somebody is constantly coming up

and giving you a neck rub or trying to rub your chest or whatever, stab you with drugs. I wouldn't last very long here. I mean, as fun as it seems initially, like I really do want to be left alone most of the time. Yeah. They kind of sense Kim's discomfort and offer him a change of clothes as if that's going to help things, right? Yeah. Why don't you get on out of that scratchy uniform and into something that drapes a little looser? You look so encumbered in that pair of jeans that you're wearing over another pair of

jeans. Yeah. Wouldn't a deep V be better? Everybody here wants you to be happy. Up in space, the Voyager has gone back to confront the three Nessari ships that are just kind of like hanging around off in the distance. And they're like, hey, so we kind of got in a scrape before, seemed like you were about to shoot us and and the guy's like, yeah,

yeah, yeah, but that was because that one guy was on your ship and I'm not gonna fuck with you as long as he stays off your ship. You may have noticed I wasn't shooting at you this time. Pretty good reason for that. That one guy's back on Terezia. Which by the way is a place we've heard some pretty strange things about. But Janeway isn't trying to hear the rumors about Terezia, which I think is strange. There's coffee and effects you can give me.

She's like, I've seen what those people look like. They're all lovely. Look at you. Have you looked in a mirror recently? You couldn't hold a candle to them. Janeway is like, all right, cool. So I guess the rules of this interaction are as long as we don't have a Tiree and on board. Things will be fine with us. And he's like, yeah. But if Kim's back on board your ship the next time I see you, I'm going to start shooting and I'm not going to lose a minute to sleep over it. So Voyager turns around and heads back to Theresa, except this time there is a shield

grid protecting the planet that wasn't there before and this comes as a surprise to everyone. And it's also preventing them from getting a hold of Harry Kim. They've been shut out. Harry doesn't even know that they're back in orbit. This is a private wedding ceremony. It's like when celebrities get married, they don't want helicopters flying over. That's what this is about, right?

Right, yeah. There's tons of secrecy surrounding it. So yeah, he goes to this wedding. He's changed into something a little bit more comfortable, but I wouldn't quite call it wedding attire. No. Yeah. He invites apparently said said deep V casual.

Yeah, I mean, it is a tasteful V, I guess. I guess. It's not too plunging. No. So everybody gets a bow staff. You think everyone would be wearing pineapple patterned clothing on this planet, right? Given what that means. Yeah, he should have just put on his Hawaiian shirt for a couple episodes ago.

He would have been perfectly dressed. Pineapple motif. That would be great. You want to be the guy that brings a pineapple to a wedding as a wedding gift. Like a Harry Kim. So we see this wedding ceremony, and Harry Kim actually knows how to do all the things. And part of the ceremony is putting a blindfold on Taiman, tying his hands up, like he's being bound to his new brides. Kind of like this. I like watching this go down.

I think Kim likes watching this too. Do you find it exciting? When the joining is complete, still blindfolded, Taiman is kind of ushered out by his veiled brides and everybody expresses their excitement by banging their bowstaffs against the floor. The joining is complete. This is an interesting scene because it is the realization of what you need to do when you're a creative writer for Star Trek, right? Like, what does an alien wedding look like? What are the things they might do? For this one, it's body paint, a blindfold, and some long sticks.

Doesn't seem too crazy. Yeah. I know that people out there have redone the wedding ceremony of Worf and Jidzea in real life. I wonder if anybody has done the Tirecian wedding ceremony. I think that would be great. Yeah, I mean, if they're poly people

in the Trek community, which I am sure there are, why wouldn't they? Yeah, this would be awesome. Invite us to one of these weddings. Yeah, let us come. Well, I don't know, DJ-ed or something. If you have to blindfold me, that's fine. Ha ha ha ha.

Just don't tell the Mrs. When the ceremony is over, Kim ducks out to blow in a call to Voyager and when he can't do that, Leris kind of reassures him that it's nothing to worry about and gives him a, hey, don't worry about a drink. Yeah, don't sweat it. Which I immediately thought was suspicious. I, I didn't want him to drink this drink. Oh, yeah. But it didn't turn out being anything. It's probably got some of that relaxation drug in it. Yeah. Be careful, Harry. Everything does. Yeah, you should at least ask, right? You should. Before you drink something down here.

Yeah. If you're something down here. Yeah. If you're worried about psychoactive substances. Be a good idea. It's considered is what it is. It would be considered. So back on Voyager, Chico Tei, and the captain check in on six Bay, where the doctor's like, hey, you know all that stuff I said before about the DNA lying dormant in his system?

Turns out that was a lie. He's human. Yes. So what's going on here are like the genes inside are busting through the genes outside, sort of like a real Bruce Banner turning into the Hulk situation. It turns out a Tirecian is not the father.

And some Kim just picked up a bad case of Toree C&DNA on an away mission at some point. This is a scam. This would have been a good moment for a born this way remix version of a song written with custom lyrics about Kim and his jeans, but I didn't have time to write it or put it together. You also, I noticed didn't have time to make a Tiki beverage or prepare to fulfill your obligations in any other way. No, yeah, you get the bare minimum for me today, Ben. Hey, you're putting up with a puppy that's more than the bare minimum, but, uh, but we need that teaky drink

at some point. Not too distant. Before the end of season three, you got to make up the tea. All right. Okay. Objection noted. We'll do this without you. I like the call back here. Kim may have been infected on the away mission on that planet full of seductive travelers. Oh, yeah, that's fun. I mean, that's probably a trading card here with the Star Trek Voyager cards. Like it just gives you a star date. You're supposed to remember what episode it's from. Yeah, star date 50698. The doctor neglects to mention anything about he went crazy and tried to murder people on that very same mission, which I thought was great. You'll clearly remember it was the away mission with the Christmas tree farm and those interesting travelers and absolutely nothing else happened. There wasn't really anything remarkable about that mission until now and now that we know

that Harry caught this illness on that mission, that kind of became the first and most interesting thing. Back on Teresa, one of the babes walks, came back to bed. This is like going home after a date. Like, this is not stopping in a driveway, and the date gets out and goes in. Like, this date goes all the way back into the bedroom. Getting to bed. In the most seductive way possible. Harry kind of makes a joke about this.

Like, he asks if she's going to tuck him in. Yeah. I kind of like that as as a ploy. Like, yeah, it's just a tradition. It's like something that parents do to their kids. That's sweet. I kind of feel like that dumps a bucket of water on the idea that they're going to hook up,

like putting it in that way. Yeah, because the mention of parents and kids is a nice picture of cold water on the junk on any date. I mean, a lot of people, you know, go home with somebody after a wedding in particular and hook up, you know? Yeah. But that's not really the mood that Harry is in.

The babe can tell, so she starts rubbing some of Romatherapy liquid onto his face. And this makes his dreams get really weird again. She says, this will help with some of those dark splotchy bits. The essence of Ricka Flowers. It's very soothing. Apply directly to the forehead. Yeah, he has another crazy, crazy dream.

And this one involves a lot of making out with this lady on the ship and down on the planet. And making out with other ladies as well. And when he wakes up, he's got Rina and Ellie in his bed with him. What are you doing here? They want us clarinet big time. Yeah, they really do. Only Kim doesn't want to play it for them. Look, I appreciate you offer,

but I'd really rather be alone. Yeah, he doesn't like that they just kind of don't respect his touch bubble. Like, they won't keep their hands off of him and he's kind of made his desires known. He starts putting on his shoes and they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Like, stay here with us.

And so he starts to kind of mimic some of the stuff from the wedding, which is blindfolding, gagging, tying people to chairs, and eventually clubbing Rina in the back of the head and knock her out. This was a real escalation, I thought. It's one thing to tie some people up, but yikes like a skull fracture To one of the babes Ouch, we're in a really catch is it Sorry about that. This is all the feelings of a jailbreak, right? Because Kim escapes out into the hallway and

He's skulking around and he finally knocks on Taiman's door and he's like, hey buddy You're in there fucking And he finally knocks on Tamon's door and he's like, hey buddy. Just... Damn, damn it. You're in there fucking? You fucking right now? It's Harry. Can I come in? You really need your help. I'm kind of freaked out here.

What you don't do after you suspect the door you've knocked on is filled with fuckers is just go into that room. I know. He's like, it doesn't smell like sex precisely. What is that smell actually? Oh, he finds out. He finds out and finds Taman's desiccated, drained body. And the creepiest part of it is how big a smile is. Yeah, Taman looks like he checked into a room at the Royale. Yeah. Here's to feeling good all the way to the end. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Tamin knew that if you've got a win, you've got a play.

But Harry does not want to play. And he takes a sharp object from the bedside table and is heading toward the door when it opens up and Terminator 3 comes in. And Harry holds this knife to her neck and makes her explain what happened and she's like oh yeah like we there's three girls to every boy in a marriage here because we use all of the cells in their body in order to conceive a child it's the only way we can reproduce here. They use all parts of the boy Buffalo.

If Malia had been the same character as the one that she played in Terminator 3, the scene would have ended a lot differently. Yeah, that would have been Harry's ass. Yeah, but as it is, Harry throws her onto the bed, like knocking over the other babe, like so many bowling pins and he gets the hell out of there. That he does, but he's brought a knife to a bow staff fight and he is pretty quickly surrounded by ladies holding these ceremonial sticks and my kid's pretty rugged.

Yeah, it really makes you wonder how much of a beating you could take and still fuck, you know? I will let you do this to me! Harry, there's nowhere to go. I guess so. Did you notice all the doors look very vaginal on this planet? On Terezia? I did notice them. Yeah, they've got a real aesthetic down there.

That's a nice detail. I can never find the doorbell though, you know? Like, yeah, it's like Did you see how Harry had to get into the Damon store? It's not the way to do it man. You want to ease yourself in. I'm knocking louder and harder and faster But like I that's all I know how to do sounds great. Yeah. So they're like telling him he can't escape while the Voyager beams him up. And they get him out of there just in time.

They've like pushed through the shielding surrounding the planet. And they're sort of caught in the middle, right? The Treesians and the Nassari are shooting at Voyager and at each other. But the second Voyager gets out from in between them. They're allowed to fly away. And they leave a space battle in the rearview mirror. Pretty great. Just ships passing in the night. Voyager just wanted any part of this.

That's not give them a chance to change their mind. What did this episode not have any of up until now. Cringe inducing melic scenes. Oh, finally. So the button on the episode is Harry Kim telling the story of Odysseus and the sirens to melex. And melex like pinching his cheek like he's like a weird aunt. Melex is so weird in this scene. This scene itself is totally weird.

I wondered why it was here. They didn't need it. They didn't need it like the hairy blowing smoke up Paris's ass and then Paris blowing smoke right back up Harry's ass. Like everything about the scene was like, what is this? Get this out of here hey friend I like the way you seduce

Hey buddy right back at you. I like the way you do your job and are good at it and things Yeah, I don't know man. I don't know about this ending, but do you know? How you feel about the episode? Did you like it? I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an order of that underspring. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an U.F. Just crossed the line. I think overall, I liked it on the level of it being that kind of vintage, horny trick.

It's very Roddenberry feeling in the way you described. Yeah. It seems impossible that Rod and Barry didn't write at least portions of the story. Yeah. But it's fun. It doesn't go over the line too many times into the gross or skeevy. So I guess overall I liked it. Yeah. Pretty entertaining. Sure. I don't think it's like that smart on episode, but it's good fun dumb track, I would say. It is kind of a throwback. Last couple episodes have felt that way, I think. They really have. They felt like early seasons TNG.

Yeah. I liked the episode for the same reason, Ben. It also crystallized an idea for me that was like the idea of a character vacation as being something that many of the Voyager crew have gotten to do this season and this being sort of Kim's turn. Chico take out a turn, Kess got a turn, BLT got a turn. They've all had their episode where they're central to the story and they've either become someone else. I mean, the doctor got a turn obviously. Yeah, so yeah, that seems to be a theme of the season really everyone having a turn

Becoming someone different from who they are and I thought that was an interesting play on it for Ensign Kim One thing about what Kim goes through though. I found very interesting was that One thing about what Kim goes through though, I found very interesting was that Kim never feels any of the emotions of living a lie once he's told that his entire life is a lie. Like that part is totally glossed over. In a way that I really could have added some pathos to it.

Like it didn't need to be a long drawn out thing, but he's momentarily upset about what may have happened to his mom, but he's wayarily upset about what may have happened to his mom, but he's way less upset about the idea of thinking he was something that he wasn't the whole time. And that truth being hidden from him. And there should be some body horror to it too, right? Like his genetics were being rewritten. It's unclear how much of that was the DNA at work,

and how much of it was Kim DNA at work. Yeah. And how much of it was Kim seeing a way out of a circumstances, but yeah, that was a weird angle that the episode didn't take. And I was curious about why. Yeah. Well, it seemed like maybe they just didn't have enough time, but you can't take out that final scene, Ben. You got to leave that in there. No time for anything else. Well, we can't take out these priority-on messages at. Should we go check see what's in the inbox? I mean, if we can't take them out, we got to put them in. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured

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on the surface with all of these babes basically in service to him and totally ignoring him. Yeah. Is big fun. B-Dunk's doing a lot here in a nonverbal way to express how disappointed he is and how this is going down. I just thought was big, big fun. I mean, maybe the most fun part of the episode for me was just looking around for Kim. Yeah. And seeing how he'd respond in a situation like this. What about you? Yeah, like I was going to give it to Tamon, but in thinking about why I was going to give

it to Tamon, I think I'm actually going to shift that onto Paris because I kind of feel like if Paris had been in Harry's situation and escaped and seen the desiccated corpse of Taiman, he would have been like, oh, so they're just gonna fuck me to death? Cool, I'm heading back to my room. Yeah. You might want to reconsider that, Harry. Doesn't sound half bad. It's remarkably cool with this. I mean, you bring up an interesting point.

Did he know this was coming? I don't think he did. I also thought about what did Taiman look like before he started looking the way the Tireesians do. Like, oh right. What if Taiman was like a Vadeen before? Maybe the Tireesians have the cure for the, the, the dean phase and it's just getting fucked to death. Teresia. What if he looked like a nassari? What if he had all that loaf and then it, like, slowly went away? You know what?

That would have been really interesting if that's why the nassari hate the teresians. Yeah. It's got to be part of it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like there's more story left on this bone more to be explored here But I love to see what what happens next week I'm gonna tell you about our next episode which is season three episode 21

before and after Cass begins traveling backwards through time from the moment of her death With each shift she comes closer to a solution, but she also grows months and years younger at a time. Huh, I didn't think that's how it was gonna go for her. It sounds like that warfep episode toward the end of TNG, where he comes like unmoored in time. Do you think there's a chance

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