The Greatest Generation - Deprivation is First Base (DS9 S6E7)

Episode Date: March 30, 2020

When Worf and Dax decide to have their wedding on DS9, the noise complaints from their bachelor and bachelorette parties are nearly constant. But when Martok’s wife threatens to ruin their big day, ...it’ll be up to Captain Sisko to play relationship counselor. What ever happened to Tom Hanks comedies? How crucial is finding your register? What’s the station’s policy on getting a fresh couch? It’s the episode that everyone’s doing this week!

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Starting point is 00:02:40 I'm Ben Harrison. We are broadcasting from the podcast bunker in an undisclosed location. From the podcast bunker past. Yeah. As we attempt to build a runway into a future of shows that we can't possibly predict. Seems more and more uncertain. I don't know. Every podcast is probably doing this episode, right? People are going to be sick to death.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Let's talk about what we're doing, episode. Yeah, we should save it for the live stream. Self-importance is a quality that I lack completely and reject, like full stop. Wow, you must be so proud of yourself for that. You got me. But you can't ignore how often we're hearing things like any attempt to hold on to a normal life right now has a greater value than it's ever had before. And so we're hearing from a lot of friends of Disodo about just how important this work is. And I'm not making
Starting point is 00:03:48 light of it significant to someone else's life, but wow. It sure feels that way. I feel strange about how many people I know whose lives have really downshifted and how much this feels like the work for us is business as usual, like the full week of prepping, editing, recording, posting, all of that, like nothing has really changed about what we do. I'm hoping that that's a nice continuity for the listeners,
Starting point is 00:04:19 because it does feel a little bit like the alienation that we elected to take on for ourselves in being weirdos who work from home. It had a really different feeling before than it does now. It's like we invented penicillin by just letting our lives rat in the fridge. But we're like penicillin hipsters, like oh yeah I was in the penicillin before before it was like really big Seems like a lot of these cases are totally asymptomatic. Yeah My wife's positive that she's going to get it. Yeah, your wife feels the same. You feel the same. I feel the same Yeah, there's no denial about that. Yeah, I mean
Starting point is 00:05:02 The best thing I've seen in the press about how to behave is to behave like you already have it and do everything you can not to give it to other people. Right. It's not so much about preventing yourself from getting it as preventing others from getting it. And I'm doing my best, but I was in line at the grocery store wearing my, I got these white cotton gloves and the primary
Starting point is 00:05:28 function of these gloves is to like when I like reach my hand up to dig in my eye for eye boogers, I'm like, oh, there's cloth on my finger and I'm not supposed to be touching my face right now. And it's just like, it's just a little like mental speed bump to be like, oh yeah, sure no touching face right now Yeah, and then when I get home I take them off and I wash my hands. Uh-huh, but the Lady at the at the grocery store was like doing bits on me because that's what you deserve Yeah, because it does look a little silly. It looks like I'm a mime It looks like you're there to check for dust. Yeah, yeah, I'm Admiral Kirk inspecting
Starting point is 00:06:08 the enterprise before a little educational outing with the cadets. You're the not-so-secret chopper, Ben. Can see you coming a mile away. Yeah, I have a friend go to a go to a memorial service on zoom conference. Oh no. Yeah. We need to have a minute to mute the microphone. I'm going to be like, I'm going to be for a second to mute it. Can you imagine next season's curb your enthusiasm?
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's what I've been saying. It's going to be one of the greatest seasons of all time. Oh no. Yeah, well, enough about this bummer ass topic. Why don't we get into this very light and silly episode of Deep Space Night. Let's pivot to distraction. Yeah. That's gonna be great.
Starting point is 00:06:57 As we talk about Deep Space Night and Season 6, episode 7, you are cordially invited. Don't out the tapestries, Ben. Don't them out. Because the fleet has returned. Yeah, the station is back in Federation hands. It's going to be where the 9 ninth fleet is stationed, which I like. Deep Space Nine. Ninth fleet makes sense. I follow.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. Keep that seventh fleet over there at Deep Space Seven. Stable! One of the key pieces of Cisco's log is how Jovey O'Hee is about the total and complete absence of belt buckles on the station They all got left behind on star-based 200 and something Yeah, still at war, but the celebratory mood has not abated for a week now. Just pretty cool Everybody's fucking So much fucking not just banners getting dumped out. It's dogs
Starting point is 00:08:06 boobs So much fucking not just banners getting dumped out. It's dogs boobs It's everything I read that there was a cut scene to this episode for the move-in like everyone goes to their quarters and sees who's been living there Really yeah, and and one of the one of the funniest vids of writing I thought was that you get the person who moves back in and way units stay in there and then someone moves in to where Ducated lived and they're all like a growing level of gross and bombed out. Change leaders smells like cat pee. And Nog moves into his quarters and realize it's Jake that's been living there and it's the worst one by far.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That scene should have stayed, that's really funny. That's too bad. We get the scene where Cisco greets Major Kira up in ops. She's very glad to have him back, glad to not be greeting Goldu Kott every time her boss comes in in the morning. It made me wonder what the status is of the non-aggression pact between Bejor and the Dominion.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Right. Because it seems like that was a pretty good way of keeping Bejor from being destroyed, but it doesn't this mean Bejor would return to being subject to Dominion attack. It's a lot of awkward. Also, anything stopping another fleet of Dominion ships from coming through the wormhole? Or is the wormhole just closed for business for a little while? I think they should continue to drive deep space nine around. Like I think it should be on patrol along with the ninth fleet, going back and forth between
Starting point is 00:09:43 the hole in Beijor. Wow. It can do that. You want it to be like the hood, just hauling its butt back and forth between starbases. I really do. Why not? Couldn't the ninth fleet make a sort of chain between the two? Just there's always a ship nearby.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. That would make sense. Yeah. This is the Warf is getting married episode. And we're gonna have a lot of Mar-talk in this. And the first scene with Mar-talk is him being promoted to the Supreme Command of the Ninth Fleet or something, which I guess is a combined Federation
Starting point is 00:10:20 cling on fleet by implication. Oh, I didn't get the sense that he had any sort of oversight on the Federation side. I'm wondering, man, because Supreme Commander suggests a supremacy of command. Yeah, it's like Eisenhower and World War II kind of a deal. Or he can boss the British around also. Right. But Marta's position is so squishy. Is he just the captain of the Rotor-Anne, or is he like the head of the entire
Starting point is 00:10:47 Klingon military? Is he Gauron's best friend, or is he just one of many similarly ranked guys? I like that Marthox, like, they offered me the beast, but I turned it down because I prefer the Rotorath. Hahaha. You should have seen the Quarters they offered me, and what the Gemma and I had done to it. Hahaha. You both think they don't poop, but they do. Let me just say that the white looks very suspicious under a black light.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Hahaha. When doing a Quarters inspection. The white looks very suspicious under a black light. Ha ha ha ha ha. When doing a gorgeous inspection. You've seen what a trap house looks like. Those guys were totally strung out. They weren't looking after the hygiene. I love El Martac as like the lamenting, the administrative work that comes with his promotion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And Cisco is relishing this. As a finally, you know what it's like to have an inbox with 2000 email messages in it. Yeah, the paperwork does not go well. Yeah, older man. But in this conversation, they sort of hash out like where the personnel are going because this gives the fleet an opportunity to regroup. So martox like, well I'm thinking I'm going to keep Warf aboard. He's been pretty great. And like, I guess that means Alexander is part of that deal. And then sort of tosses out some extremely faint praise about Alexander and what it's like to have him. Yeah, he's not the best soldier I've ever seen. As far as soldiering goes, he's essentially worthless,
Starting point is 00:12:26 but he is warf's son. He makes a fine human shield. I mean, cling on shield. Hard to tell with that guy. TbqH. They, like, as they're making fun of him, they directly cut to him, being really lame. Like self-deprecation, it's got this weird kind of reverse
Starting point is 00:12:50 uncanny valley where if the person actually totally sucks, it stops being cute. Exactly. So when he is telling a story about something he fucked up on the ship, it's like, yeah, like you are a danger to yourself and others. He has no chill and he has no self-awareness. And his story isn't funny for so many reasons.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Like he floods an entire deck with a dangerous chemical. Yeah. That's not a funny story. Yeah, I wouldn't need it. Tell me about the time that the replicator wouldn't stop shooting out God. That's fun. I wouldn't trust him to go back to the bar and refill my blood wine. No, I wouldn't either.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Why not? Quark is also here in Quark's bar, an interest in pitching warfin' dax on an urgent wedding at Quark's bar. I guess he just needs to fill in some of the economic gaps that the rapid political shifts of the station have maybe left him. He's as aware as anyone of the wedding industrial complex and all the many benefits that that can provide
Starting point is 00:13:57 for a business person. He can charge like four times what he would charge for a normal gathering of that size. Warf is like, fuck that, we are not getting married in a dive bar. I forget it. The ceremony will take place on the Klingon home world after the war. I feel like there are definitely two or three seasons of cheers where people discuss either having their wedding reception
Starting point is 00:14:20 or their actual wedding at cheers. And it's like, boy, like we talk about Star Trek straining credulity occasionally, but the idea that these people all spend like four or five hours a day at this bar and then are also interested in using it as their wedding venue. So an interesting bit of business happens here when Alexander gets up and Quirk hot seats his bar stool. It's that we come to find out that Alexander's being transferred. And so in order to get a jump on that,
Starting point is 00:14:52 in order to be able to have a wedding where the maximum amount of family and friends could attend, it starts to make more and more sense that they would have the wedding on DS9. Sooner rather than later, I think that Wurf is doing the math. Like, this kid is not surviving this war. So, if we want him there, we're gonna have to do it now.
Starting point is 00:15:11 They're also extremely close, having not talked to each other for many, many years. Certainly, closer than the entire crew of the Enterprise, who I guess don't receive invitations to this. Wow. Yeah, thatitations to this. Wow. Yeah. That's pretty cold. The wedding scene at the beginning of Nemesis feels so much more weddingy than the wedding
Starting point is 00:15:33 scene in this episode. And why is that? It's because all of our friends and family are there. Yeah, it's because the people that actually love Wharf. They don't even try to remove the idea with dialogue. It's just ignored and an effort to hope you forget. I wonder if that's a budgetary constraint. Like, oh, if we get a cameo from the entire cast
Starting point is 00:15:55 of that very successful and beloved TV show, it's gonna cost us $Zillion. Or is it one of the things they talk about in the documentary what we left behind is how Deep Space 9 always felt like the middle child of Star Trek and maybe there were like sensitivities among the actors like not wanting to share screen space with cast members of a more successful and more beloved show. I don't know. There wasn't a attempt to get the TNG crew involved in a totally dialogue-free
Starting point is 00:16:29 cameo, kind of way. But what happened was only the Var Burton and Jonathan Freak had offices on the Paramount lot, so they were a game. But everyone else they would have had to fly in from all over.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And the costs associated with bringing everyone in and getting them uniformed in like yeah like it just wasn't gonna happen it couldn't pencil out of this bullshit man I feel like you maybe like ask the network for a little extra money for something like that because I don't know I guess maybe it's hard to know right because this is meant to be sort of a light palette cleanser episode after a huge bracing story arc but it's also supposed to be sort of a light palette cleanser episode after a huge bracing story arc. But it's also supposed to be an event, right? And it really helps the event like special
Starting point is 00:17:13 nature of the thing to invite people that you didn't expect to be there. That should be there. Yeah. I wish we'd gotten that episode. I'm sure there are lots and lots of really good reasons why we didn't. I wish I got to know that episode of Deep Space Nine. We're invites Alexander to be his Taiwan on, which is sort of a bestman invitation. And then Alexander immediately turns into the Gerald Ford impression from Saturday Night Live. And goes full physical with this comedy. Yeah. Go to comfortable.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Go to comfortable. So we get a little conversation with Kira and Dax about what, you know, why is Dax converting to Klingon for this wedding? You know, why not meet in the middle or whatever. And kind of becomes clear that Wurf is a bit of a groomzilla. And, you know, Dax is able to kind of rationalize this away. Like, I've had a lot of, you know, trill, trill wedding ceremonies, I've had a vatum, as a man, I've had him as a woman, you know, trill wedding ceremonies, they've had a madam, as a man,
Starting point is 00:18:25 I've had him as a woman, been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, but this is something that's worth it. I've been both at the same time, like you've taken this, the ankylisor out of me and put me into the other person on the wedding day. We got married as we died and also passed off our ankylisor. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Have you ever been married in stirrups? But, but yeah, so she is basically doing the entirely Klingon version. So the B storyline is going to be sort of dax as Charlotte in Sex and the City trying to convert to Judaism. Wow, the sea storyline is going to be Kira sees Odo several times and Odo slinks away. Which one is more interesting to you? I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's a bit of a misfire with Dex
Starting point is 00:19:19 that she wouldn't be just perfect at this, given how much she's been perfect at kind of assimilating into other Klingon things over the course of the series. I was shocked at how time was jumped through in this episode in a couple of places. Yeah. I would never have guessed that the Klingon wedding episode
Starting point is 00:19:43 would have been the 10 pounds of episode in a five pound bag situation It really ends up being that way. Yeah, and it also made me wish that there was some more discussion of Comparing it to the initiation she underwent to become a host. Yeah, yeah, it really felt like there were some parallels to be drawn there that Is it really felt like there were some parallels to be drawn there that didn't really get explored? So in the wardrobe, Warf has brought together his Bachelor Party McLaughlin group. If you want! Where he describes the Cal Haia, the four-night Bachelor Party that he wants O'Brien, Bishir, Cisco, and Martaak to attend, along with Alexander. I've never been to a bachelor party that I would characterize as being a path of clarity. But that's apparently how the Klingons roll.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I've been to some that you could call depraved, and deprivation is first base. People seem to be excited about this in a way that if they knew anything about Klingon culture, they should instead be apprehensive or scared. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a misdirect that the audience is coming a mile away and wonders why a room with Captain Sisko, Miles O'Brien, and Super Genius Julian Bessier, are shocked by. This is the one scene where you really feel the absence of the Enterprise crew because you look around this table and you're like, these are your best friends? Yeah, especially Bessier. I don't understand the Bessier thing at all, like I guess you lobotomized my brother.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Therefore, you are one of my closest friends. But she says to Wurf on his way out, like, we're gonna drink till we can't see straight. We're gonna be brain dead at the end of this and Wurf says, if you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand. Wurf is like, blood wine? But she was like, no, I brought my own beverage. Why is your keg warm?
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah, we've got our keg in a giant rubber made full of ice, and you've got yours in a giant rubber made that you keep pouring boiling water into. This year's pumping and it's just foam. It's just foam into the cancun. That was the pale ale, Julian. So we're told in that shown initially what DAX is going to go through because there's a conversation that Marthok and Sisko have wherein they're going to go greet Marthok's arriving wife. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And Marthok's wife is there to take Dax through her version of what these four days will be. Sarella daughter of Linkasa has real, she who is my wife vibes, but she also has real seric vibes, where she's like the highest status person in any room she walks into. Yeah. But she's dressed like she who is my wife. She's an angry Luxana Troy, right? She is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:55 But she is not going to put up with an dress full of Odo. No, not at all. And she positively big dogs, Martok, when she arrives in an old school big dog in kind of way. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. I love his reaction. I love how sprung he is for her. Oh yeah, he loves that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:15 They do the, they're doing one of those marriages where they have separate domiciles and just fuck like bunny rabbits when they see each other but they don't see each other that much. You know Cisco, you should really get your own ball kicking machine for recreational use. I find that it really sharpens the mind. Even as it dulls the penis. But you meet Cerella and all of a sudden you're concerned with DAX.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You may be more concerned with what's going to happen to Dax than you are with this, uh, this bachelor party of, of, part-time klingons, right? Indeed. Oh, I was also a little concerned for Cisco because when she walks away, Marta sort of asks Cisco to weigh in on how hot he thinks his wife is. Back, never said his a chain. That's not cool. I don't want any of my friends to tell me their opinions on my wife's looks. No matter how often you ask, I'll never tell you.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I appreciate that about you. I mean, I'm going to keep asking you to test you. Right. Later on, Dax lights candles in her quarters. Uh, you get the sense that Dax knows what's coming. She's not prepared for the ceremony or the sequence of events, but I think she is unprepared for who is there to administer them. Yeah, I mean, like meeting the mother and law, the, the future
Starting point is 00:24:39 mother and laws always an intense moment. You want it to go right, you want to make a good first impression. Uh, but there are some kind of mitigating circumstances here. There being a war on, it wasn't possible for Dex to get the exact perfect kind of candle. So she got cheap replicator knockoffs and Wurf is really worried about this. You clearly got those candles at the Yankee Candlestore on the promenade. The sense reminded me of designer imposter. This is a great moment for Serella because I feel like the big dog Hattrick is in range for her here. She big dogs wharf into getting the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah. I want to say like when I heard we were going to meet Martox wife, I was like, we were going to see maybe the most elaborate boob window in the history of Star Trek. Yeah. And she is a boob windowless cling on. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I don't either. I'm just going to say that. It's, it seems wrong and bad. Now more than ever, we need the boobwood. I mean, her costuming flies in the face of everything we've come to know about Klingon women up until now. Yeah, she's throwing it all away at him. You know what, I'm looking at the, at the bottom of, of a memory alpha page and I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:25:58 a picture of Sirella and the caption is, Klingon women hate her. For this one secret. So I think I could guess what the secret is. Oh, I think you're looking at the tabula rupcions at the bottom of that face there. Would save you a click. Right. Yeah, worse like this is not traditional enough shit
Starting point is 00:26:23 is peak warf and then getting his balls busted by Serella, like kicks it up even another notch. That's a lot of fun. Yeah. She's a real remain cling on type. Serella does that thing where she walks in, drops her bomb and then leaves. The bomb being,
Starting point is 00:26:37 shit's gonna go down in the morning, prepare yourselves, and also get rid of all these bullshit candles. Yeah, like wharf talks to Mar talk about this. Mar talk is like, yeah, good look with this. Like, we'll see if this wedding happens. Tarell is a full disco era K-Lash follower. It's a sensibility about Klingons and their culture that feels very home in the Star Trek Discovery universe.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah. The xenophobia and all that? Yeah, we can't have aliens come into our house, and if we do, they're gonna be like third class alien citizens. The alien trash of the galaxy. Not considered equals. Like, the ax is being held to a much higher standard
Starting point is 00:27:18 than she would be if she was a Klingon woman. I got the feeling. Do you think it's a little fuck that Martak had to know how this was gonna go down? And none of this should be a surprise to Martak and yet he does not soften the blow of his wife arriving in any way for either of them. He's not preparing war for the worst.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You know, Warf Zia will not be an easy sell for any of us. We, Warf even asked like, hey, should maybe I go talk to your wife, which is also another just amazing question being asked in this episode. That depends. Do you find her attractive? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Mar-tuck, why are you asking everyone that? Why do you keep wanting to know if people think your wife is quote, bonable, unquote? We cut to the Calhaya cave ceremony, which is simulated in the hollow suite. And it's very hot in there. It's kind of a, kind of a sweat house environment.
Starting point is 00:28:25 The smokiness in the scene, I think kind of confounded the video compression because there's a wide shot with Bashir O'Brien, Alexander and Cisco standing there. And I don't know if you had this experience, but on my TV, I could not see any of the characters that well, I could just, you know, by shapes,
Starting point is 00:28:45 figure out who Cisco, Alexander and O'Brien were, but I swore that I was looking at Jake as the fourth for some reason, Jake. For some reason, and I was like, wow, if for some reason, Jake is involved in this, after he wasn't involved in the previous scene about this, that is gonna be some wild shit. But then he like walked a little closer to the camera
Starting point is 00:29:05 and I was like, oh right, it's Bashir, right, right. I'm not sure you were gonna say you couldn't tell the difference between the smoke in your room and what you were seeing on screen. I was chiefing a giant blunt at the time. Step one at any Calhaya. You got to distribute the American Gladiator style
Starting point is 00:29:21 Jowsticks, right? Yeah, you gotta get ready to javst. And this is, it's sort of like the flower baby of the Klingon wedding ceremony. All right, you gotta hold onto your stick. Gotta hold onto your stick until the bond is made at the wedding, and then you go attack the groom and the bride with it.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And a lot of ways the bachelor party isn't over until the marriage is in place. It's really the jaustics of Damakles for the rest of the episode. Yeah, speaking of things you don't want, they also find out that this is a four day fast. Oh, no. And there's a huge spread. There's a big buffet laid out. And this is maybe the only nod to Kern where beloved lost brother in the episode. One of the items on the buffet is turkey legs,
Starting point is 00:30:18 which Alexander immediately goes and picks up. So there must be something genetic at play here. Like the sons of Moogue love a turkey leg. I'm so fucking sad right now about Kern not being able to attend his brother's wedding. Like I'm legit upset about it. They should have just like come up with some pretext and had whatever his new identity is. Just had him there like I was working as a baggage inspector. like I was working as a baggage instructor at Kronos International Airport. Why have I been brought to this space station to attend a stranger's?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Calhaya, dead bird meat with caviar on it. Do I like this? I do not know. I'm having what the French cow, day, job, food, eating this. I could have sworn I've experienced this flavor combination before. We've seen uncomfortable moments in Star Trek before, but try to imagine, Kern walking through the door of the hollow suites and cutting to Bashir's face. I'm pretty sure that would be the first cringe death ever depicted on. No, you know what? The helmsman that died when the Guilom killed him in the seat.
Starting point is 00:31:39 That's the first cringe death. Yeah. Bashir's death in this moment would be second place. I have a slightly different theory. I think Kern would show up. You would see Bashir's face blanche, and then you would see his uniform start to get wet below the waist, and then you would see him like quickly find a vessel to capture the fear piss he was taking. Nothing tastes quite like fear piss. And you let me have a sip of your blood wine.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Your wine has gone bad. So six trials of Calhaya, then deprivation blood pain sacrifice anguish and Amazing sexual donkey Well, mr. Thompson that's really quite a list and you're right all of those crucial. Yeah to any four-day event. I guess so. So we cut to Quarks and for some reason Jake walks in and tells Quark the Federation news service is going to distribute the book that he wrote during the occupation. Yeah, all those dispatches that he was not able to get out, while the the minion was there,
Starting point is 00:33:14 have been picked up by FNN, right? Was that, was that, is that what it was called the Star Trek Picard? Yeah, F and N. Because they don't have cables in the future. He's there ostensibly to look for his dad, which is never a place we find Bensisco. Yeah, Bensisco's not a bar fly traditionally. I'm racking my brain thinking about
Starting point is 00:33:41 when there's ever been a scene of him in Quarks drinking alone. Yeah. When you live on a space station where your dad wears a combat and can be located by the computer at any time, walking around asking people where your dad is has got to be the answering your phone. Hello of the future. So it takes just a little old fashioned. Yeah. In a lot of ways. fashion. Yeah, in a lot of ways. Quark is mildly impressed, slash interested in what he has to say, but he's basically there to tell him that he should check the hollow sweets because that's where his dad is. He's doing cling on bachelor party. And in those sweets, Alexander is having an experience that I found very familiar, the almost passing out because it's too hot.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Right. He chooses to power through, would not take the cowards way out of turning the thermostat down a little bit. There's a lot of, there's a lot of cling on chauvinism at play here, right? Like Marta keeps saying things like, perhaps you will not succeed at the,
Starting point is 00:34:44 at the challenges the way we do, because we are Klingons, and it's always Alexander having the most trouble. My favorite thing about being married to Sirella is being her little spoon. She suffocates me with her warmth. Very difficult to sleep with Sirella. But I like a challenge. I love when they break into folk songs and Martaq takes the high harmony. That's really good. I love it so much.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah. It's always a delight when you get together with a group and sing songs and you realize, oh shit, someone's a very good singer. I'm suddenly very self-conscious about my bad singing. Please do not pimp me into a killer song. Right. Yeah, just knowing how to harmonize, I always admire it in somebody, but also knowing your own register,
Starting point is 00:35:46 it took me till I was like 34 or something before somebody was like, yeah Ben, you have a low voice. Sing a little bit lower than you think you should sing. And I was like, oh yeah, I can actually hit notes when I sing happy birthday, happy birthday. If I start there, I'm gonna be fine. That's where you start. But I thought I had to start where everybody else started.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I sung the high harmony to happy birthday at a birthday party that you and I both attended. Yeah, well, back. I was going for the low notes. That felt good. I think we both did our jobs. We did our jobs. I was the bass, you were the alto.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. We took off our straw hats and did the little tambourine shake with them at the end. I broke into a little beatboxing at one point. It was really fun. It was appreciated by no one but us. Much like our dueling birthday toast. Oh man, I did feel a little bit, we were at this group birthday party right
Starting point is 00:36:47 before the like portcules closed on all socialization. Right. And the at the dinner, the the toasts kept going around. And you and I just turned our toasts into a relentless like dead air style bit where we tried to low each other into a false like dead-air style bit. Where we tried to low each other into a false sense of security that one of us was just going to be doing an earnest toast. That was the best part as we started sincere every time. And then turn the toast wheel hard into the ditch. I can tell that our lives were falling rapidly out of love with us.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Our friend was getting ready to stop tolerating our presence at his party. That's why we're invited to so few things. Bits, bits, bits. You're always doing bits, bits. You're always doing bits, bits. I was doing bits. Bad doing bits. Bad bit moment. Bad bit moment. It was a fun challenge.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And people, somebody that likes a challenge on this show, is Judsey Adex. Yeah. She's, she's gone sleeveless. Yeah. She's getting a lot of shit for her sloppy brazier placement from Serella. What mean that word?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Because she's, because she's holding the braziers and she has to place them. brazier placement from Serella. What mean that word? Because she's holding the braziers and she has to place them. Oh, I was thinking we were talking about her bra. And you had pronounced brazier. Brazier. I did not. I was pronouncing brazier brazier. I was very confused.
Starting point is 00:38:23 The phrase sloppy brazier placement is in the episode and really jumped out at me. The placement of the braziers on their pedestals is sloppy. Right. Both of us are just standing over this joke, just beating it. We've seen this in scenes on the show before. Anytime you are asked to hold things out from your body for any length of time, you know that that is being asked many, many times. And no matter how heavy or light the object you're meant to hold, it is extremely difficult.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And whether or not this is acting on the part of Terry Ferrell's, she looks like she's in great pain doing this and I believe she is. Yeah, there's no way to make that those two things less than like two or three pounds, even if you make them out of very thin plastic. But even that would be a big challenge if you're doing 20 takes in one day. Serella does that thing with decks that that Mike Myers does to the Chris Farley character in Wayne's World 2. In this now, Judzia, go back to your own people.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I got no place else to go. Which is like sort of goads her into quitting. Yeah. This is what she's built for. What's Serella right here? Right. I think this comes in the history recitation portion of the challenge, which is Dax is supposed to tell Serella
Starting point is 00:39:55 the history of the women in her family. Like I could see Serella giving Dax the history and then like pop quiz. Like you know, my 23rd grandmother, what was her name and what was her relationship to the emperor, but it's the opposite. It's Dex telling Serella all this information and also dropping some knowledge bombs.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Dex has fact checked some of the family history and found some zim holes in it. Serella didn't know that she was on finding your roots and Dex is playing the part of Henry Lewis Gates Jr. And it is not a fun lighthearted episode. You are not a hundred percent Irish and in fact you're a quarter Jewish. No! It appears your great great great great grandparents sired many slaves.
Starting point is 00:40:50 This is a great moment because this is this is when DAX big dog Serella. Yeah, Serella's pedigree is a sham. Yeah. And like you would think that this would maybe put them on a little bit more even footing, but it does not. The mother-in-law conflict does not go well. Back on the promenade, for some reason Jake chats up Kira about a party Dax's having.
Starting point is 00:41:23 And oh, this was tough because Kira does that thing that can sometimes backfire because she invites someone to a party that isn't hers. Sure you're welcome. And you can tell Nog the same goes for him too. Great. She invites for some reason Jake and Nog to this party. And then the second in a series of this type of scene
Starting point is 00:41:43 happens, she sees Odo and Like immediately whips around turns away. They can't look at each other. Yeah, it's a rule of three So we know that they're gonna talk the next time she sees Odo But what's great about the physicality of this is that the turn away Means a turn toward the Klingon bachelor party leaving and I guess taking a break like they're walking through the promenade on the other side Yeah, it's a bit of a shame because I liked the idea of Kira having a moment of embarrassment and vulnerability In front of for some reason Jake. Yeah, cuz that's just kind of a weird mixture of characters for a moment like that right and it's Infinite characters and infinite combinations. That combinations this we like about deep space
Starting point is 00:42:25 night yeah but they're kind of like wrote their way out of having to process that at all by having the bachelor men walk through I wish we had a little better grasp on what steps were on in the six yeah like we see we very clearly see the first two or maybe three, but then we totally lose the thread. Yeah, the monomarkers are missing. I expected the B story to more comport with the six steps than even the A story would. Right. Like by the time we get to sacrifice or anguish,
Starting point is 00:42:57 you know what, maybe those can be things that... Are similar to what Dax is going through. Yeah, and I think she does a little bit, but you don't draw straight lines between them. Well, the pain is being experienced by the dudes in the cave. Shear pleasure is being experienced by the people at Dax's fun, fun party. Yeah. Lieutenant Atoa from one of the Federation starships
Starting point is 00:43:21 is there doing a Pacific Island fire dance routine, which is Really setting this crowd on fire like people are going fucking ape watching this. It's exhilarating to watch people watch him Yeah, he's fucking great and the performance was really cool and fun But the the way the way they're reacting is like oh my God, I can't fucking believe it, which is like, we talk about all the time, like all of the like crazy sci-fi scenarios that people walk into. Where they should respond like it's street magic.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah, and it's fun to actually see that on the screen. Yeah, you get a DAX reactor. Yeah, and it's like, it's something that you can see if you go on vacation in Hawaii. Yeah. And it's fun, it's something that you can see if you go on vacation in Hawaii. Yeah. And it's fun to see aliens reacting like that to something that we have access to here on Earth. The present day.
Starting point is 00:44:12 The only downside to seeing Luten and Atoa shirtless in this scene is that you don't get to see what he looks like wearing a service uniform. Yeah. Which has got to be positively like cow-hut to nest. How low is his combat, do you think? Oh man, Otoa is wearing it like below his waist. I mean, missed opportunity there.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I would have liked to have known that, Lieutenant Otoa. Ben, he's from the Sutherland. Do you remember the Sutherland, right? Remind me. That was the Del Soul Class Starship that data was the captain of briefly. No kid. Remember when he had his exo Christopher Hobson
Starting point is 00:44:51 talking all that shit to him? Yeah. You don't give a damn about the people whose lives you're throwing away. Talking back, being a real bad exo, and they had to do that blockade of the attack-yongrid to stop the roms. That's the same ship, no kidding.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And they also real casually throughout the name Captain Shelby. Wow. As if that might have been her stop. No kidding. You gotta give the Southern Linda Shelby, right? Yeah, I bet, I bet Shelby's doing great during this Dominion War.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I think she's better than a Del Sol class though. Gotta start somewhere, right? She has no chill for a hood though. Like, don't you kind of put her on a foosball class starship? I mean Picard is better than a stargazer class starship but he had to start there. Yeah it's true. Everyone is so vibing with a fire dancer like their expressions are of total joy and amazement except the very expressionless mask of mourn. Yeah. Who is the only one who knows what it's like to swing a stick around that long? Joy and amazement, except the very expressionless mask of mourn.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Who is the only one who knows what it's like to swing a stick around that long? We're not even as some experience with a stick that is on fire. Right. He grabs a toe his fire stick and he's like, that's all you're working with? On guard. Well, all this is going on, some other people are experiencing fire in a different way. That's Bashir and O'Brien who are handcuffed to a pole that is, they are dangling from over another brazier. And that's not a bra, Adam. Okay, thanks. That's a bowl with fire in it. They're just hanging in there, fan.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah. Just hanging there, babies. Hey, you know what? There's a great merch idea that Star Trek will never make. Much like your great idea for a car sunshade. Yeah. That depicts the shuttlecraft with data and Jordy inside. That should be made.
Starting point is 00:46:42 That should be made. Wouldn't you like to see an office with a hang in there poster? With O'Brien and Bishir. Yeah. Yeah. Why won't the Star Trek Industrial Complex listen to our ideas? They'd have to listen to the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Well, that's just a brief moment and we cut back to the party where the 50 have shown up on a noise complaint. I've been getting complaints about the noise. Kira calls some rank to keep the party going. And this is when she and Odo sort of notice that they have accidentally come into contact with each other. It's unavoidable.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It's unavoidable now. So Kira takes a let's rip the band-aid off approach to this. Which is never my move. You know, if I'm at a party and I'm really having a great time, the bummer conversation that I know is inevitable is not the first thing I want to do. You want that bandaid, if you're ban Harrison, to just come off in the night while you're sleeping. Yeah, or maybe in the shower.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You don't feel it that way. In a public pool. Yeah. It just sluffs off and you don't even notice it. Hot tub at an Airbnb. All the great places for a bandaid to come off. Certainly not by your own volition. So they go shut themselves into their storage closet.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Gotta say, I really love off-duty Kira here. Just wanted to mention that. Yeah. It's a good look. Like a lot. Dax and Lieutenant Atoa are kind of canutling on a love seat in the middle of this party when Cerella walks in. And? Aren't you going to put down some like newspapers or something when Atoa sits on your couch?
Starting point is 00:48:20 I mean. You think he's got like spray tan on or something? No, I think he's covered in sweat. You just throw that couch out the airlock and replicate a new one. That's right. You're always gonna have a fresh couch on DS9. That's one of the brand promises
Starting point is 00:48:36 of the Deep Space Nine hospitality business. This turns into an entire party of drop jaws as Sarraela retracts the offer to Mary a member of her family and then they get in a knife on fist fight. You can't bring a fist to a knife fight. I'll never forget the knife fight that my wife got into with my mom a couple days before our wedding. It feels like we skipped something here though, right? Like this is one of those moments where the last time we saw a DAX she was having that conversation with Serella which disputed her family line and then we cut to the party but I feel like something's
Starting point is 00:49:18 missing in between like is she done with the test? Yeah. Is the party part of the test? It doesn't seem like the party's part of the test, especially because Serella's not invited. Right. And it does seem like Serella suspects dax of being unfaithful with Tennonatoa, which doesn't look totally wrong. I mean, no, it seems like dax is definitely like, it looks like the basement is a little flooded. Yeah, she's definitely like talking to him like he's just a piece of ass that she wants to keep around for a little while right and then the next morning like his pips could be for her pleasure yeah and then the next morning it's atoa and
Starting point is 00:49:55 mourn leaving her apartment yeah begs the question at him did daxX have a three-way with Lieutenant Atoa and Morn? Alright, I'm really, really racking my brain about this. And also, like, they're leaving when Worf comes in, and Worf does one of those like, not again, kind of shrugs, right? So, like, do they have the kind of open relationship where DAX can explore this aspect of her sexuality openly? I am going to say, yes. Yes she did.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Wow. She most definitely did. So Warf is not that traditional after all. No. She's got a raging hangover. She's got a real bastard behind the eyes and doesn't want to talk to Worf about the fact that she's been forbidden to join the House of Mar-Tok.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I'm sad that Dax doesn't go for a hyposprae and then her hangover is gone. Yeah. Hangovers are still a thing in the 24th century. Give me a break. Yeah. I'm rereading an E&M bank's novel right now called Excession, and there's a character that wakes up with a hangover, and he has enough machinery and stuff in his head that
Starting point is 00:51:17 he can theoretically turn it off, but he's so hungover that he's like, I don't even want to bother messing with it. Wow. So maybe it's that kind of situation. Oh no. Yeah. This is, I think this is a kind of acting, a lot like act drunk, where I don't think you really realize
Starting point is 00:51:39 how much it takes to act hung over until you have to do it. Yeah. And she does a great job here. Yeah, I bought it. Morning. Morning. Steve, sweet. Morning.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Morning. Steve, everybody. Morning. Stop. Habitat. Perhaps the most interesting thing that happens in this episode happens entirely off camera because they realize that there are voices and they open the door to Dax's storage locker or something.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Bathroom? Bathroom, maybe. I don't know. There's like rubber-made tubs in there that Odo and Kira are sitting on, but they have had one of those just amazing nights where you leave the party with somebody and you just talk all night.
Starting point is 00:52:22 God, those are the best. They're the best. I mean, they ain't got shit on the ones where you leave and fuck all night. Right. Right. Don't have shit on that. It's a re.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Uh, it sort of seems like you're an owner like to get these. Just an almost unforgivable writing maneuver here by a show that loves to lean into how it resolves conflicts. To do this off camera, I can't even be mad at it. I'm just shocked that they don't take the opportunity because it's a show and a group of writers that just fucking relishes this so much.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Why remove the opportunity to do that? I don't get it. Yeah. The scene ends with Worf saying, like, you've got to go like hands and knees and beg for one more chance from Serella. That's the only way. I have smelled Morns Dick.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Ha-ha-ha. You have acted with great dishonor. Ha-ha-ha. It took me 40 minutes to smell the length of Morn's dick. Thanks as too much pride. I don't beg. Wedding off and it feels easy. It feels easy to say this is over. Yeah, and then what we get here is a pretty classic DS9 montage of the both of them walking the promenade, the single brass instrument of a dissolved wedding plays. They're like, like, food doesn't look like a taste good. They like, dax looks at a bouquet of flowers, like, this sort of isn't even interested. Like, there's
Starting point is 00:54:00 a, there's a, their kids playing. playing like that doesn't give her joy. Warf is looking in the window at the batleth store and Doesn't care about the batleths. What's the point doesn't want one? Yeah in Quarks bar O'Brien and Bersier are still in their gear for the bachelor party and they watch as Quark starts to disassemble the decorations and they find out that the starts to disassemble the decorations and they find out that the wedding is off and so the first thing they do is put in an order for some food. Double altar sandwich? No mustard. Two bowls of linguine, but you're in shrimp with extra cheese. Two big pizzas made. Everything on them with water, whole out of water and Time to break that fast. I liked that their order isn't Star Trek food
Starting point is 00:54:52 It looks like yeah, it looks like stuff I'd want to eat right now But she got stuff I would want to eat O'Brien did not because O'Brien got a sandwich. Yeah Why would you break a fast with a sandwich? It looks like a great big meaty sandwich. Looks good. That steak looks so much better though. I didn't understand the pasta with Alfredo sauce with non-melted cheese on top. Yeah. Also of all the pastas.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Alfredo? I ordered a hamburger at a hotel in Ethiopia. It tasted nothing like a hamburger. It was twice the size of the biggest hamburger I've ever seen. And it was like somebody in that kitchen saw a photograph of a hamburger and made this based on what they imagine it might be. Like the bread was a weird kind of bread. It was maybe two pounds of beef in the patty.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Well, like, I couldn't believe that they, like it had all of the ingredients, but somehow we're put together in a way that it was like, this tastes like nothing. It doesn't, it's like a simulacrum of a hamburger by somebody that doesn't know what a hamburger is. This tastes like nothing to me. Yeah, and it was like, I can understand that
Starting point is 00:56:10 because this is like, their culture has like such a vastly different version of cuisine from mine. Why even then? Yeah, I'm just saying like, you could forgive a guy that eats two grubs and drinks beetle juice for like not knowing that the cheese should be melted on the pasta. I understand now.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It was a long walk, but when we got to the end, I get it. Yeah. Epiphany. Martaq comes aboard the little D to try and convince Worf to not fuck this up. He does the classic relationship advice thing of making it about himself, making it about how much he loves Cerella and how they're wedding,
Starting point is 00:56:54 their marriage, you know, doesn't work on paper, but we can't help the women we fall in love with. I never knew before this episode how much of a fucking bro, Martac is. He's a total bro. Yeah, both in both the baseball captain tip you off, both in this scene and the scene before, but especially this scene, I love how it's composed. First of all, this is one unbroken shot that starts on Wharf. It rack focuses a bit and then it goes into a sequence. We move back and we push into Martak's face. Yeah, it is a very, very long push in that gets real tight by the end.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It goes from two shot to ECU. Lots of times when you get, it seems like you get one character getting a monologue, but in this scene, both of them have a monologue in one uncut sequence. Yeah. That was reallyut sequence. Yeah. Thought it was really well done. Yeah, it was good. Martaqs, you fucked up buddy, Speed. But how hollow is the sound of victory
Starting point is 00:57:54 without someone to share it with? Does kind of rally wharf into becoming a fighter for this thing? Like wharf enumerates all of the ways that they're terrible for each other, he and Dax, but the conclusion ultimately, and this is a feeling that they both share, is that it's better to be miserable with someone that it is to be alone. So we've come back after like 30 seconds of crickets there. As you and I really think about that concept,
Starting point is 00:58:26 we trimmed it out because the listener's time is valuable to us. So Mar-Tot comes into Quirks Bar and takes the food away from O'Brien and Bashir just before they make a huge mistake because... Foods back, not on the menu boys Why don't we not eat them they're not made out of me So yeah the weddings back on and
Starting point is 00:59:06 They're bummed but they're willing to stick it out for a wharf and wharf comes in and then it's back to now like It's over. It's I talked to DAX and she's not in and then Cisco has to go talk to her. Our main characters are like Fuck Pick something this is a dangerous moment in the writers room're my think, because what you're doing now is conflating the professional with the personal. You're sending Captain Cisco in to advise and counsel a subordinate on what she should or should not do. W slash R slash T getting married. Yeah, to another one of your subordinates. Yeah, and the appeal that he makes to her feels pretty gross to me.
Starting point is 00:59:49 If it means you have to bow down and kiss her boots, that's exactly what you have to do. Like the suck it up and deal? Yeah, he's basically on team go begging on all fours. It rang hollow to me coming from a character who has represented, you know, independent thinking, but at the same time, like the longer I think about it, like if anyone is going to be orthodox anything, it's going to be the sysco, right? He's going to be the one that's most interested in preserving religious or cultural norms like these.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Like is that where this is coming from? Because if you don't look at it that way, I think it's a character departure that is a super bad look for him. Like, he's telling her to eat her pride and it feels like kind of two pieces of advice that are in conflict with each other because he's saying like grow up and act your age,
Starting point is 01:00:43 which is 300 something. Yeah. But also recognize that this lady is like your senior in this family, and so you have to like, supplicate yourself to her to win her back. And they, it seems like two totally incompatible ideas to hold in your head at the same time. Right. But I don't know, yeah, like I think that it's an interesting character moment for them because like they do have this like super old friendship that is founded on two different lifetimes for DAX.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So I guess, I guess it rings true to me. It was surprising, right? But it didn't feel like this doesn't make any sense. I was waiting for that shoe to drop that goes like, look, Dex, all you have to do is pretend for Serella and Martaq. Yeah. You don't have to believe any of this shit. Like manipulate her for a minute, it'll be over,
Starting point is 01:01:42 and then you'll be married, and that's what it's all about. Like, prize on the eyeball, like get and then that's what it's all about like prize on the eyeball Like get married. That's what it's about. This is this is a temporary inconvenience with all this shit eating But that's never that's not what captains go saying. He's saying it's actually good shit and mean it Yeah, like we had a struggle early in my relationship, which is that I go to a lot of Jewish religious ceremonies with my wife and her family, and there's all kinds of situations where there's like a song, being sung, or a prayer being said that is not native to me, so I don't know them by heart, and I also feel a little uncomfortable like an interloper.
Starting point is 01:02:22 And part of it is that I'm not a religious person, and part of it is that I feel slightly disrespectful doing religion. Doing religion. Doing the thing that is important to them. Yeah. And we went to this secular, Jewish organization, and they had like a little like meeting group
Starting point is 01:02:39 about like how to handle the holidays in mixed couples. And one of the things they said that was a total liberating thought technology to me was, yeah, you don't believe it. So saying it is actually an act of respect to them because you're participating in the thing that they would like to bring you in to participate with. And for you, that can be the entire meaning of the words, because if the words are about talking to a god, you don't believe in, then you're not talking to anyone,
Starting point is 01:03:12 and you can kind of infuse them with their own meaning. And yeah, you're saying that's the advice you would give dax, but that is not the advice Cisco gives dax. Yeah. Like, we don't get the begging on the knees seen. Presumably it happens. That this is the second scene that I feel like is missing because you never get the interactions between DAX and Serella, we cut to the ceremony. Yeah, and if you were worried that we weren't gonna get a boob window in this episode,
Starting point is 01:03:39 we're in no longer. Such a relief. Yeah, Serella's still in the, she doesn't dress up or down. She has one mode. So she's in the same thing for the wedding that she was for everything else. Yeah. But DAX comes in in full cling on wedding regalia and boob window. Boob window. That's how the clings on's roll. Yep. Did Serella have a boob window at her wedding? You got to
Starting point is 01:04:04 believe that. I saw Lita in the crowd looking at that boob window and being like, wow, I kind of wish we'd gone with more of a Klingon thing for her wedding. Yeah. I really liked the Klingon wedding ceremony. I did too. This is a very patiently constructed scene. Yeah. It really gives us all of the beats in the moments and the call and response. This scene might be why other scenes aren't in the episode because it's pretty long. And I've heard of people having clinging on weddings like in real life before and wondered what that even means. And if it's this, like if this is like the service
Starting point is 01:04:45 that they're drawing from, like, it's not for me, but I could kind of see it being really meaningful to the kind of couple, you know. Yeah. Then let all present here today know that this man and this woman are married. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Oh. You get someone who really values a boob window. It can be a beautiful ceremony. Yeah, and then you get your friends to run on stage with cute tips. The end of this episode, Ben. Oh my god. It's like butch Cassidy and Sundance are running out into the... It really is.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It's a little gunfire. Bishir and O'Brien are like, can we do it, Dad? Can we do it? And Mark talks like, not now, damn it. Until it is time. Oh, got it. And then it's cut to black. L edit style.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Like we hear the Socken bobbers happen over the credits what the fuck did you like the episode? this episode is insane this is the work of a mad person this This is like too neat of a comparison, but it's like if you, people do cling on opera, like you can go watch that. People perform cling on things.
Starting point is 01:06:12 You can go see cling on improv, or cling on friends, or whatever version of the thing that you like as performed by clingons. And the idea of this being the very special episode of a TV show is frequently the wedding of two main characters. You get this all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I was ready for there to be a reception scene where Kira and Odo announced that they've gotten engaged and then Dax is pissed because she took the thunder from her big day. It is just incredibly silly. And I don't think the episode takes itself that seriously and so I don't take it that seriously. There are things to like for its silliness,
Starting point is 01:06:55 but the things that are tough have real consequences like the cura and odo thing. Are we just gonna get back to business next week, not knowing anything about how they made things right? You know what? Setting that aside, Odo was going about his business this episode being treated normally by everyone else except Kira. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah, do they not know? How does everyone who's wearing a pejoran uniform working for Odo not look at him with a fucking perma-scowl at being complicit in what he was with over the last eight episodes. I really hope there's more about that. I kind of doubt it. And I wonder if an episode like this is the moment that they had that they didn't take the opportunity with. So yeah, like I like the episode for what it was
Starting point is 01:07:46 and I don't like it for what it wasn't if that is a way to put it. Yeah, at the end of the last episode, I was thinking a lot about that six episodes as the open of a season and the fact that there were gonna be 20 more episodes. Like it was such a breathless six episodes and this feels like a stop and
Starting point is 01:08:06 pause for breath. And I'm into it for that reason. I kind of think that maybe part of this is the fact that we're also, as of this recording, coming right to the end of a 10 episodes season of Star Trek Picard. And so much shit happens in every episode at this point in that show that it feels like insane to have built the kind of pace that you have at episode six of season six of Deep Space Nine and then be like, hey, let's do one that's just for fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I liked it, I think, on balance. All right. Well, let's see if we've got any priority one messages that we might like in the can.
Starting point is 01:08:49 That is a good idea. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on top. supplement on top? supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship!
Starting point is 01:09:09 Adam, here's a priority one message from Andrew and many, many multitudes of others, and it's too ban and add-up. That's us. Hmm. Because like this, dear sirs, you're beautiful. Full stop. You're beautiful! That's You're beautiful. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah. Oh wow. They asked for this P1 to be up against anything but resurrection. I don't know. I guess this is an episode title. I guess that's next week's episode actually. Wow. All right.
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Starting point is 01:09:57 What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? A Red Bull. Drunk Shimoda! I did. Everybody is turning up at Dax's party, but I don't think anyone turnsunk Shimoda! I did. Everybody is turning up at Dax's party, but I don't think anyone turns up quite as much as Ron. Ron is flipping out when he sees this fire dance
Starting point is 01:10:12 going on. And, uh. Art Farringi afraid of fire also? Isn't that what we know from TNG? Yeah. Quirk got his pants caught on fire that one time when he went camping with, right.
Starting point is 01:10:24 With Cisco and for some reason Jake. So, I don't know. Ron fucking loves it. Yeah. Ron's turned it into a sexual interest. From the look of it. I really do love a fully choreographed dance scene and it's not just the fire dancer here. Like, the way the people dance together in this episode is a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Super fun. Did you have a drunk Shimoda? I don't know if it's possible for me to give it to the ending of the episode. But like everything about the last five seconds of the episode feels like a Shimoda to me. It is totally self-aware. It is having a ton of fun. I guess if I'm gonna give it, like I'll split it between, like if it's gotta be characters, I'd give it to O'Brien and Bishir.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Yeah. I got that gold press. I got that gold press. I got that gold press. Am I right? Oh, yeah. Am I right? Oh.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Oh. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, let's make a pretty great name for a tour. Let's do it!
Starting point is 01:11:45 The Sherry Reembarishment Tour is coming in August 2023, and we've got a bunch of dates in a lot of great places. Go to GreatestGenTour.com to get more info. That's GreatestGenTour.com for dates and ticketing information for the Sherry Reembarishment Tour. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Jesse Thorne. On Jordan Jesse Go,
Starting point is 01:12:06 we make pure, delightful nonsense. We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We got stupid with Judy Greer. My friend Molly and I call it having the spaceweards. Pat Noswald. Could I get a Balrog burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And Kumail Non-Giani. I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use. Come get stupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look, your podcast apps are open, just pull it out. Give Jordan Jesse Goat try. Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Well, rats, hey, hey, hey, oh, I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not and they've such short neck But I'm here and we need to get on this. I gotta get on the art. Yeah, it's about terrain. Got us about to destroy humanity Hey, oh, sir, sir, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like human. We're actually we're podcasters We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun and Outdoor. There's no way we have a silly episode on deck for next time, Ben, but we need to find out what that episode will be and how we are going to experience the recap of it. For that we go to Gachdab Biz Slash Game and our Game of Buttholes, the Wheel of the Prophet. The episode in question at season 6, episode 8, Resurrection. The alternate universe double
Starting point is 01:14:01 of Kira's Slain Love requests asylum on deep space 9. Did you just say the double of Kira's slain love requests asylum? Is that going to be Vedic Bariol? Yeah, like that's, I'm wondering which of her loves that could be. I'm back. And I'm boring, baby. Maybe since he's from the Mirror universe, he's the opposite of boring. He's extremely interesting. Whoa. It's the opposite of boring. He's extremely interesting.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Whoa. It's the Baryle we've always wanted. Yeah. Yeah, he's the Dosa Keys edition of Baryle. How about that? Cat-Soup Baryle. Yeah. Well, I'm looking at our game of Buttholes Will, the Provets, where currently our runabout is on square 29.
Starting point is 01:14:45 In the deep distance, there is a measure of a man square, but nothing really to worry about before that. You're required to learn as you play, role. I'm going to roll the die. To measure the man you start at the anus. Yeah, that's a graphic that we couldn't put. I mean, we have enough space buttholes on the game board. We can't just...
Starting point is 01:15:09 You're good. Confusing. We can't just put an anus on it. Ah, ha ha ha. I have rolled and I have rolled a six, so it is a regular old episode. All right, a regular old episode for next week. Well, I am looking very much forward to that.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah. So that will be next week in the meantime. Please, if you're in a position to, head to maximumfund.org slash join. If you would like to support the ongoing production of the show. Podcasts, please make sure that they continue to survive. Yeah, especially, I mean, I think that inevitably a lot of the folks out there
Starting point is 01:15:56 are going to be getting hit pretty hard by this thing. And we are definitely thinking about y'all. And, you know, I think it sort of remains to be seen what this means for us, but hopefully if you are still in an okay place, you're able to support us, maybe make up for some of the fall-off of folks who stop being able to, that would be great. And we would really appreciate it. Thinking a lot about our good friends at DeSoto right now, among them we've got Adam Ragusia, who has created the interstitial music for our show, and then a good bit of kit bashing
Starting point is 01:16:33 of the original music made by Dark Materia. Yeah, gotta thank our homeboy Bill Tilly, who makes hilarious trading cards about every episode of the show. He posted them on Twitter using the hashtag greatestgen on his account Bill Tilly 1973. Adam is over there at Cut For Time and I'm on there at Benjamin AHR. There are so many groups on social media dedicated to this show and its many aspects and they're mobilizing. They're mobilizing and they're doing good things right now and
Starting point is 01:17:08 I think it would be a great idea if you were on places like Facebook or Twitter to link up with them and try to do some good at this very moment. I read it. Yeah, if you're hungry for a community, it's out there waiting for you and there are no fault of our own. Just really great groups of people that are doing really great things. So we appreciate all of you
Starting point is 01:17:32 and we need each other in times like this. Sure do. And I'm glad we've got you. So with that being said, we'll be back at you next time with another great episode of Start Track Deep Space 9 in an episode of the greatest generation Deep Space 9. That doesn't remember liking you as much as we do right now. Make it show. Make it show. Make it show. Make it show. Make it show. Make it show. Make it show.
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