The Greatest Generation - Dick Valet (S2E5)
Episode Date: May 9, 2016When the Enterprise has to transport Ginger Jesus to a peace negotiation between some ersatz Klingons, his sexual super-magnetism is a distraction for some of the crew. Their 5-star Uber rating is see...mingly in the bag until his cadre of helpers is killed on an away mission, forcing the diplomat to talk only with his hands. Are these the worst alien effects we've seen? What's a job interview like for a bathroom attendant? Do they still have Pier 1 in the future? It's the episode where we return to Anybody Canyon!
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Ben, the episode we're about to watch today kind of creep me out.
How do you feel about it?
Uh, that's...
It's on a similar level.
I'm hard to feel too creeped out right now because I am barbecuing and...
...drinking a beer.
Oh, shut up, man!
Yeah.
There's nothing stopping me from doing that.
No, nothing.
You know what?
I'm gonna go off mic and run to grab a beer
and then I'm gonna be right back.
You're gonna hold down the show for me.
So I gotta vamp while you're around, this.
I think this should only be like 15 seconds.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
You know, while Adam is away,
I should tell you that I have half a mind to open this box
of Star Trek cards that he bought for me on air today.
I don't know if he's going to have his handy when I spring that on him, so he might be
forced to pop up and run and get those as well later in the show.
And I'm back. Oh, okay, hey, hey, hey.
And I've got a beer.
Oh, that sound effect proves it.
Oh, that's nice.
Oh, nothing more refreshing than a nice cold beer
and a Star Trek podcast.
Hey guys, what have you been talking about?
Oh, nothing.
Okay.
I'm, that'll be a fun surprise when I go to edit the episode.
I see it's becoming a speech.
You're the captain, so very entitled.
I'm going to type a ramble on about something everyone knows.
So the enterprise is once again on a courier mission.
Yeah.
This is like a key kind of mission that the enterprise is stuck with
is like we need some stuff to get from one place to another place. And the flagship of a fleet
of thousands of ships is going to get stuck with this with this duty. They're kind of like the Uber
XL right? Yeah. The really the best Uber you can get is what you call for a transportation mission like
this one.
Yeah.
The congestion price and don't mind if I do.
Three X scarves is the surge price for the flagship of the federation.
Oh, oh geez, that's a lot of, that's, that will, that is a closet rating.
I know.
In a way that a only T Tasha Yar could really match.
So what's going on here is that there's some aliens on a planet called Salais 5 that
have been at war for centuries and they are finally ready to drop them swords and pick up them plough shares.
Yeah, like the idea is the war has gone on so long that they've killed just about everyone.
Yeah.
And we're supposed to understand that like they could kill each other into an extinction here pretty soon,
unless peace is invoked.
So there is a legendary negotiator, name of Riva, that they've petitioned
the Federation to bring to them. They don't want any federation meddling in these
peace negotiations, which I feel like is like, why would anybody think that the federation
gives a fuck about your stupid planetary conflict? But I would so much rather have a federation mediator
than ginger Jesus.
So,
but,
you know,
Warf was a little nervous about this guy
because we've been negotiating several treaties
between the Klingons and the federation.
Which it seems like a strange position for Warf to have
given that he's a
Klingon that lives and works in the Federation, but he does some pretty funny grumbling about
how before him there was no Klingon word for peace maker.
I bet Riva introduced a lot of words into his language that they didn't have before, like
his language that they didn't have before, like a wedge salad.
Beige.
Kacky pant.
Yeah, what is the what is the name for the for the mustache hair that is like the center part of the lip that Klingons never grow.
Oh, the Hitler stash part.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, Riva has lots of that.
And I've never seen a Klingon with any.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
I mean, so they, they beam down to Riva's planet to meet him.
And it is like beaming onto a mega church.
It, it's totally got mega church vibes.
It's got big columns and stained glass and what have you.
And what really ises the whole cake here is that Riva himself is wearing silken robes.
He's got that look about him that there was a buddy of mine when I was growing up and his parents had the oil painting of Jesus and his basement, with the eyes that seem to
follow you around the room.
Like Riva looks like an oil painting and I was really creeped out by him, to be honest.
Ginger Jesus knows your secrets.
I just feel like he looks into your soul.
I just feel like you have to be real suspicious of a guy who,
when you first enter his house, he comes out and silently nods at the three people there.
And we should say it's Picard, Troy, and Worf.
Yeah.
And then goes and stands on a podium,
so that he's elevated above them,
which is like, I would be like, all right, fuck you.
Like, you can't negotiate shit. You are so fucking full of yourself.
Yeah. If you're all about the cult of Riva at that point, like, how is anyone going to respect
you enough to mutually work on a piece between each other? Like, that just doesn't make sense.
Yeah. Maybe the way that he makes peace happen
between warring cultures
is their mutual hatred of Riva himself.
Like they'd be at a diplomatic meeting
like God, this Riva guy's a huge dick, huh?
And the guy's like, yeah, I know.
Oh man, we're more alike than we thought.
He finds that one small scrap of common ground
that they have and builds on it.
Yeah, this guy really is a genius. So, so, so, so Riva is wordless when he first comes in and then
three weirdos in white robes join him and we've got a another like oil painting looking person, which is a red-headed lady. And then we've got a guy who is,
like, if it's possible, even more sexually magnetic
than riker, with like a kind of like a gerry curl.
And then a guy, like, and like.
He's a sexual super magnet.
Yeah.
And yeah, super conducting sex.
The kind that kids aren't allowed to play with
because if they swallow them,
they'll just tear up their insides.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, the FDA was right to recall this guy.
And then a guy in like a beret
with kind of a chip on his shoulder.
And these are Reva's chorus.
They represent by turns the unifying spirit,
the sexual warrior aspect of his personality,
and the artist poet aspect of his personality,
which I got pretty jealous thinking about
what it would be like if my personality had a sexual warrior aspect to it.
I feel like I got to go back to the personality shop for an upgrade.
It made me wonder, if the only way you can function in the world is to have a chorus,
you know, profess all of these things on your behalf.
I mean, is sexual warrior guy like taking out your dick
and putting it in people?
Yeah.
Like how much help does sexual warrior guy provide?
I don't know.
I mean, he's definitely shaking you off
when you use the urinal. Boil it, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, So it is explained by Riva via his chorus that he is deaf and he has this telepathic link
with his chorus where they hear his thoughts and interpret them into sounds and then
you know he receives the responses I guess mostly by lip reading but also through them
the responses, I guess mostly by lip reading, but also through them. And this is like a normal
situation for members of the ruling line of his planet, which appears to be humans, but
I guess not, like they're somewhat telepathic.
We don't get a clear explanation really. Yeah, he's on to Troy being telepathic early and and put in the moves on her often, I would say. Yeah, you can tell
because his interactions with Troy are primarily using the dick valet. Yeah, yeah, everybody
else claims up. And times like this, we become an incumbent.
And Jerry Curl Dick Valle starts speaking.
Being with you here now is provoking an emotional revelation.
Troy's like, how come this guy's the only one that talks to me?
No, one point.
How come this rando has an erection?
And I mean, we're joking around here, but Troy seems down.
I'd like that.
No, yeah, the more she sees of Riva, the more down she is.
It wouldn't be the first time that she's fooled around with several people in the room.
I mean, if you're in a relationship with Riker for any period of time, I think.
He's going to take you on some adventures. He's gonna help you build some memories,
like the low mileage pit woofer you are.
He's gonna spin that odometer.
So they beam up, they head onto the bridge.
Picard introduces Riva around.
Yeah, all seven of them get on the bridge.
This is something that I put down on my notes
that was really interesting to me.
Was, do you remember how small the Turbo Lift felt
when it was just Wesley?
A boy.
And Picard.
Yeah.
A couple episodes ago.
How do you cramp seven people on there?
I think that's why we don't get an interior shot.
Much like a mini-cooper.
The uh, the uh, the Turbo Lift can house more clowns than you think.
Riva is very interested to meet Jordy
in a way that I almost felt like he was gonna divert
his sexual attention away from Troy
and pour it into Jordy.
Because Jordy's visor, Riva likens to his chorus and is really pleased that Jordy is not ashamed of his disability or in any way,
you know, doesn't feel in any way limited by it.
Yeah, this is one of the many times in the episode we are told that everyone is special in their own way. You are special.
It's a pretty clear theme throughout that I'm okay and you're okay.
Yeah. Are you saying that Riva might as well just been passing out participation trophies?
Yeah. Yeah, and that's what he's doing in touching everyone's chest as they as he meets them. Yeah, that's another
form of introduction for him. He didn't do that to Troy though. I guess he's saving that for later. Yeah, I guess so
Because at the end of this scene, he basically asks permission ask Picard's permission for Troy to escort him around the rest of the ship and
Picard definitely like
you know, it's like a sexual predator to sexual predator.
Picard kind of gives him a wink and is like, alright.
I can't see it right over there, please.
I see what you're trying to do and I like it.
I fully respect this.
Alright, so they get to this planet that has Salais V, the war planet, and they picked
like a piece of high ground that they're going to beam down to.
The aliens, the indigenous aliens that are at war with each other are immediately
pissed off because Picard Danes to radio them up rather than having Riva make the first
contact. They're like, we don't want to talk to anybody that isn't Riva.
And that impression was spout on by the way. Yeah, these are these might be the dumbest aliens that
impression was spout on by the way. Yeah, these are, these might be the dumbest aliens that the series has to offer.
They're like nothing but aerozots, Klingons.
The way the actors were told to play them is like as sniveling, as as forangi, and as
stupid as the stupidest Klingon.
Like they're just so unimaginative as a species.
And they totally look like a rubber mask malfunction.
Like it looks like they didn't want to throw out
the first version of the Faringie face piece.
Right.
And so they decided to just recycle
some of their melted plastic parts.
Yeah, they said down like a Klingon mask next to the Kilden at Melton.
They're like, oh shit!
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, let's not just throw it away.
Certainly, there's something we can do with these.
Good enough for government money.
Yeah, they look real gross.
So, Riva beams down with, I think it's a, what is it?
It's just Riker and Warf and Riva and his chorus.
Yes.
And that's a big group.
But they beam down to the top of this mountain
and they're gonna set up like the conference table
where these aliens are gonna sit down
to negotiate this piece.
Yeah, there's a fair amount of party planning
in this scene, right?
Like they're walking around with Riva
and he's like, hmm, let's stick the table there. Some teaky
torches over here. And yeah, we gots to have some teaky torches on either side of this
table. Yeah. Like we get a fair amount of storytelling about where we're going to set
up this scene. You know, they haven't quite gotten to what the what the Cabana is going
to look like because the aliens show up and
you know they come from opposite sides onto the peak of this mountain.
They got laser guns.
Yeah they've got some pretty rad ray guns.
I have to say like if I if I was a collector of memorabilia I would be pretty happy to
own either of the ray guns from this scene.
Yeah.
If you happen to have a a set or a of Star Trek cards, I think you'd be pretty
tickled that one of the cards could be one of these ray guns and autographed ray gun cards.
Oh yeah. For example, signed by the ray gun itself. Yeah. I heard the ray gun is going to
be making appearances at Emerald City Comic Con next year. Oh, geez. I think the Reagan appearance could only happen
at greatest Gen Con in Fresno, California.
You keep saying that, and it might actually happen at them,
and that terrifies me.
If we could only get enough sea list actors from the show,
I think that'd be great.
Like our panel would be hilarious.
You think it's sort of like film financing,
where you get the actors committed
by saying that you have the financing in place
and you get the financing by saying you have
the actors committed?
Sure, it's a total scheme, pyramid scheme
of sea list actors.
It's the same way you get like two characters
and a sit compact together,
like you send the meetron note saying meet me
here at this time.
Yeah, you sort of rev your actors, don't you?
We should probably cut this out so that, uh, you know, Denise
Crosby and, uh, and then don't, don't hear it and get
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Let me tell you something.
There is no fucking way Denise Crosby will ever, a
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That's right, yeah, yeah.
Like, could you imagine just a two-hour panel with that guy?
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So, these aliens show up and one of them has like a lackey. And the lackeys, like each, there's like two kind of like alpha aliens and then two beta
aliens.
And the like they eat, so the alphas each have a lackey who is like a little bit more
stooped over and planted at the apesee.
And one of them is like, no, fuck, piece, fuck, everything.
Ah!
So it's like blasted away with his ray gun.
And wouldn't you know it?
He manages to score a single shot
that takes the entire trio of chorus members out in one go.
Yeah, and his ray gun is set to gore
because the way
these people die is, is,
terrifically awful.
Like, we haven't seen this much gore since conspiracy
and or Nazis looking at the arc of the covenant.
Yeah, it's like all three bodies have been put into a giant
microwave and then melted in two seconds.
It was great, good effect.
Good effect.
The only downside of this effect
is that they had them kind of,
throw their hands up and despair
and then froze them in one specific position
so they could match up to like digital skeletons
that they confident.
And it's a little bit of a silly pose
that they meet their end in.
You don't wanna go out like that.
Not a dog.
Especially when you're the dick valley.
No.
So, Wharf and Riker, like leap into action,
get Riva beamed back up onto the ship.
And, you know.
Yeah, they do that thing where, like, when a diplomat,
where an attempted assassination has happened, where they, like, they actually surround you. Yeah, they, like, they do that thing where like when a diplomat, we're an attempted assassination has happened
where they like, they actually surround you.
Yeah, they like, they hug him close
and then they beam him up.
Throw themselves in front of the bullets.
And they beam him up just after the Alpha alien
whose lackey, he has just killed, says,
he doesn't represent what we wanted to do here.
He's a traitor. Come back.
That's a little bit Cosby to me. Yeah. You got to come back down here. Rudy, there's no
proof that I did anything to anyone. I'm America's father, old. My, my, my Pachazmi is getting worse and worse as time goes on.
I disagree entirely.
So I get back on the ship.
Riva is pretty verclamped.
Oh, he's pissed and you can tell he is because his hand gestures are spasmatic. And he's basically screaming with his hand.
Yeah. He's made himself as incomprehensible,
as he can possibly make himself.
And I think that, you know, like before they beam down,
there's a scene where he and Troy have a nice romantic dinner together
and Cockvalley is asked to leave at a certain point.
So they just kind of have established
like the most basic sign language communication
between each other.
Yeah, it's basically Riva making an okay sign
with one hand and then like repeatedly pointing
his the finger from his other hand through the O.
Yes.
And then flipping it around and poking it through the backside
to show that he'd be down for some butt stuff too.
And Troy's doing that thing where she flicks her cheek
and makes the bubble sound, which I can't do.
But Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day off.
Yep.
Yeah.
They just descend into a seventh grade lunchroom situation.
Well, unlike Cameron who is nearly catatonic at the end of Ferris Bueller's Day off,
Riva is rip shit pissed and doesn't care who knows about it.
And they're like, they're kind of at an impasse
because Riva can't conduct this piece negotiation
because he can't communicate with anybody.
You can't fuck without a cock valley.
Right.
Yeah.
But Cardput's data on learning some sign language
so that he can potentially interpret for Riva.
So there's a great scene where data gets on the computer
and he's looking at the dirty hand-single,
Kamasutra, for like, he puts it on accelerated speed
the way he likes to and he learns all the tricks.
And then they have some scenes with Riva
where data is interpreting for him.
And I think these are pretty great scenes because RIVA where data is interpreting for them. I think these are like pretty great scenes because RIVA is making the argument that data cannot
convey the kind of emotional nuance of language by interpreting for them.
And data is kind of like forced to convey this message as, you know, and data is such
a great character for this because he takes everything at face value
and doesn't like take anything personally,
but at the same time he's like sort of being forced
to communicate his own limitations on behalf of somebody else.
Yeah, yeah.
It'd be like if Dr. Polaski wrote up a manifesto
and data had to read it out loud.
Yeah, that'd be really embarrassing.
Yeah.
Not as embarrassing as having a Star Trek podcast at him.
My name is Mr.
Data.
I am an idiot.
I don't know anything about humanity.
I am terrible at being on the holodeck.
My asshole friend, Jordy, almost got the ship
blown up by Moriarty.
Dr. Polasky is a great doctor.
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It's not that she doesn't want to be a sexual icon. It's that she chooses not to be.
So in a very short amount of time, data knows sign language. Yeah.
So they meet up with Riva in the conference room to prove this.
Riva is like going through all the stages of grieving and kind of an accelerated rate,
but he is, you know, he's not at acceptance mode yet.
Because data shows off all his fancy signs
and Riva's like, no, fuck that.
Like, I just watched my entire chorus get killed.
I'm not really interested in doing this diplomacy anymore.
I'd actually like to go home.
Like, can you just take me home?
Yeah, I want my mama.
Yeah, he's real sad.
He's super sad.
And then Troy kind of
whoops his ass. She's like, hey, listen, like, you know, she goes into his quarters and
says, like, I'm going to make a pass at trying to get these aliens to stop lasering each
other to death. And I just want some like some pro tips. Like, give me, give me like the, the top five hot tips
of a intergalactic negotiator.
And Riva is like, you know, there's not like a trick.
It's fucking hard work.
And it's hard work because you have to get people communicating.
You have to get them to find a small piece of common ground
and start communicating with each other about that,
really listening to each other.
Do you think Riva's so pissed?
Because like it stated earlier on in the episode,
he has never not made peace between two-waring factions.
Like he has a perfect record for being a diplomat
and he lost his first one.
Troy is like, it happens to everyone, man.
Right. You gotta get back in the game.
Do you think that's the main issue? Is that like his pride has hurt?
Or is it actually that he's grieving his dead chorus?
I don't know, I sort of felt like there were two different things that play here.
Well, it's a bit of both. I mean, like, he's not doing the show must go on type of type of math here. He's like he's not
hearing George Zips encouragement is my excuse me doc. I've got a plane to
land before going back out and and winning the big game. No yeah. He's just
he's filled real sorry for himself he doesn doesn't, you know, he's in a totally new
other two percenter right there. Yeah, yeah. I think every episode of this show, we make
one joke that only three listeners will understand. You've won a contest if you get that reference.
He sort of tries to kick her out by saying, like, listen, like this, this is a game of
turning weaknesses into strengths. And it's just, it's not for the faint of heart. And she, she goes,
Hey, why don't you got a weakness right now? Why can't you turn that into a strength?
She's like, I've been turning soft into hard forever. You forget who you're talking to.
I know from weakness. I know from strength.
And he starts like, you know, nodding.
He's like, oh, shit.
That's kind of interesting.
He's starting to hear the Notre Dame fight song in his head.
Yeah.
All right.
I can do this.
Oh, word.
And that kind of, that inspires him to go back down.
And so he beams down to the planet.
And they replicate the triangle table
and the teaky torches that they are trying to get ready for this other party. And this
is a new location for this summit though. I don't know if you notice this, but when they
first transported down, they've returned to anybody Canyon. Anybody! The Canyon where Riker walks off to the ledge and screams anybody.
I was, I definitely felt like it was a similar, similar set.
You're thinking it's the exact same set.
I'm thinking it's exactly the same.
It's a different color psych and like just a different sort of color scheme to the whole thing.
They've graded the rocks a little differently.
But it's anybody can, yeah.
Yeah, we should say that this is like,
we've fallen back off the wagon when it comes to exterior sets.
It's just another fucking dusty gray Styrofoam planet.
They once again just sort of set up the scene
with a table and a teaky torch.
And they sort of, this time they radio up to Jordy
to like get stuff sent down sort of like this time they radio up to Jordy to get stuff sent
down, sort of like Jordy's working at a pure one.
Can you just send down some wicker baskets and a triangular table and a couple of teaky
torches, and sure enough the table set.
And that's sort of like the end of the episode, right?
The table set, Rivas, I'll take it from here, guys.
And Troy and War, Finne, Ryker, being back up.
I am a cute and sub-or.
There are four lights.
We've skipped over one scene because it really has nothing
to do with the plot, but that is, in fact,
the end of the episode.
This one scene we've skipped over is
Jordi takes a visit to Sick Bay and talks to Polesky
about his visor and having it replaced
with ocular implants.
She's saying like, you know, we can put in
ocular implants that look like eyes,
but they're in fact mechanical.
You'll lose about 20% of what the visor is giving you as far as like as far as visual information. The other thing we could do
is regenerate your optic nerves and replicate you some brand new eyes and we'll just pop those
right in. And he's like, that's not possible.
Like, as far as I know, and she goes, I've done it twice.
I know what I'm talking about.
And Jordi is kind of confronted with this crazy choice
of like, you know, going to a natural set of eyes
and losing this amazing advantage
that the advisor gives him.
If I'm remembering correctly, I feel like he
decides he doesn't really reveal what his decision is going to be. Like the scene sort of leaves it
as this is something that Jordi's going to have to have to meditate on. I think this is the first
time that we're introduced to that tension with him because up until now, I never got the idea that Jordy wanted to be free from the visor or wanted to be, wanted to have human eyesight
or whatever.
His interaction with armus was shitty because his glasses were knocked off of his head
and he was temporarily blinded.
Like, they're, they're a drawbacks to his way of living.
But in the same way that data always expresses that he wants to be more
human, you don't really, I haven't up to this point really gotten that read off of
Jority that he's like, God, this Pfizer sucks.
Like, I would love to be out of this thing, but this is the first time he's actually given
that choice.
Yeah, so it was an interesting scene, but it doesn't really go anywhere.
It doesn't really have any bearing on the episode and doesn't wind up being its own plot
It's just kind of like dropped in at the end of the toward the end of the episode like
I feel like they just needed some time to pass and they're like, yeah, I don't know
You know we're talking about disability here like let's let's drop this in
It's also the first time that I think we are to understand that Palazki is anything more than just a total asshole.
Like, she demonstrates some competency.
Some compassion.
Like, she's a special thing.
Medically, yeah, she shows some compassion for someone else, anyone else.
Like, this is sort of a turn for her too.
Yeah, that's a great point, Adam.
As you were watching the episode, did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Drunk Shimoda!
I sure did, Adam.
Drunk Shimoda is our award for a character doing something funny or ridiculous, much like Jim Shimoda,
our favorite character from episode two of the series.
I'm giving Picard the Drunk Shemota award for this episode. Right at the
beginning of the episode, Picard gets on the Turbo left with Commander Riker and he's
heading for the transport room to go pick up Riva and Riker's like, I'm not in love
with the fact that you're going on this away mission and Picard says, Clock, clock, clock number one.
Sir, you're being a mother hen.
I just thought that that was such a funny way of putting
the role that Riker plays with keeping Picard off of away missions,
that I just couldn't help but award Picard the
Drunk Shem motor for that.
He's clearly more of a rooster that riker.
For me, I couldn't stop thinking about the whole idea of a chorus for this guy, Riva.
Could you imagine interviewing for that job?
Look, we have three positions open.
Why don't you just tell me a little bit
about yourself? And we will tell you, like, which element of the course you'd be best at.
So I imagine they, like, they hire, they hire the philosopher first, because that's probably a
pretty easy demonstration of, like, you know, learn it intelligence and, like, in in a in a beret sure yeah like that's that one seems
Most easy to be discerned like like from probably even a paper application
Yeah, you could you could use a multiple choice test to find that that person or like a resume like yeah
This guy is this guy's great. He's gonna be our smart guy and the woman
She plays she plays sort of the emotional tension, like the idea of maybe
she's the form that all three of them take in one. Like, she's sort of the glue that holds
the emotional and the intellectual together. And that leaves the cock valley. Like, what
are you, what are you told if you're interviewing for that job?
I feel like that guy is cast on Luke's alone. Like if you're him, you're like, so tell me a little bit more about this job I'm applying for. All it said was chorus.
And I imagine Riva or someone doing the interview in Riva's stead is like, well,
the position we're applying for involves touching a lot of penis.
And at all times, you must just seduce whoever Riva finds attractive.
Like, and he got that job.
Yeah.
To me.
And kept that job.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's had it for a long time clearly.
Clearly he is very close to Riva.
And for me, Dick Vet and become Drunk Shimoda
because he's as Dick Vallet.
Like, the very idea of that is ridiculous to me.
That's what Drunk Shimoda.
Good one.
I feel like I retract mind in support of yours.
Dick Vallet, job interview.
I am the cutest aboard. You will respond to my heh. I am the cutest aboard.
You will respond to my questions.
I am the cutest aboard.
You are bored.
What do we have coming up on the next episode?
The next episode is,
Episode 6 of Season 2,
The Skitzoid Man,
a brilliant, but terminally ill scientist
seeks eternal life by transferring his mind into data's body.
Do you remember this one Adam?
Not at all.
I feel like this is another plot vehicle where data is not who he seems to be.
I feel like we had that in the last season, so I'll be curious to see how they make this
at all a different episode.
They don't seem to learn anything.
Whenever data poses a threat to the crew,
they don't change how they treat data at all.
They sort of, I feel like they should give them
a shock collar of some kind.
Like, if he ever gets out of line,
like it just cuts his head off for something.
Yeah, it'd be nice.
Well, maybe we'll learn a little bit more about that on the next episode.
Let's hope that we do.
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Yeah, thanks for emailing us.
I think that just about wraps it up in.
That episode was kind of creepy as hell to me.
Yeah, it was a creepy episode at them.
Hopefully the next one is less so, but I don't have a ton of hope for that.
There's a baseline level of creepiness that I feel like we're getting throughout season
two so far.
It's nice.
Yeah, much creepier show than season one.
Yeah.
Well, with that, we'll be back at you next week
in another great episode of Star Trek,
the Next Generation, and another episode
of the greatest generation, also.
Yeah, see you then.
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