The Greatest Generation - Emergency Field Urine (DS9 S5E4)

Episode Date: September 9, 2019

When Jake makes Dr. Bashir the subject of a writing assignment it feels like he’s shot himself in the foot, creatively. But when they’re dropped into a war zone and days away from rescue, he’ll find out if the pen is mightier than the bat’leth. Do all ships in Starfleet get their own workout shirts? Where’s the ideal place to park a runabout? You do believe me, don’t you dad? It’s the episode where we lost the belt.

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Deep Space Nine, a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast I'm Ben Harrison I'm Adam Pranaka Well, this was supposed to be a fuck it, we'll do it live We'll do it live! Fuck it! And we spent hours and hours this morning figuring out how to get it set up. We did a test fire that plausibly seemed to work.

Uh-huh, yeah. It was going great. It was one of those great things that worked in the lab, but when you got it out in the real world, it ended up destroying a city block. Yeah, it was like that time Steve Jobs threw an iPod at somebody from the stage at an Apple event because it didn't do what he wanted it to do. Fucking thing sucks!

Real bummer! Bummer. I even made sure I put on a clean shirt. You never do that. I know. You don't even do that for live shows. Usually don't wear a shirt at all. Yeah. I mean, I think that what the game of buttholes

the will of the profits is there to do is to make our lives more complicated. And today it really worked. It's what it's there to do primarily is get in the way. Get in the way of a show being made which is I mean ask either of us while we're out on tour the one thing that we like is being distracted by some bullshit Yeah, I got to do a show like if we if we could get a technical problem that's like 15 minutes before curtain That would be great. Who are we gonna blame? I think it's important that we blame a tech company for this, right?

Well, so last time we did it, we used a thing where YouTube was tied into Google Hangouts and it would just live, it would use, I guess, just the audio levels to decide who was talking and cut automatically back and forth from camera to camera. Yeah. And in their infinite wisdom, the Google company has discontinued that as an option. So I had to download different software, but we wanted to have both of us on screen. And most of the software that exists for live streaming people is on the idea that there will be one white guy with a neckbeard, you know, in the lower left-hand corner of the screen and a video game taking up the rest of the frame.

And none of it appears to be designed for the idea of having a couple of people on screen at once. And this being something that we realized we had to do this morning, I mean, I'm sure that there's a way to jury rig it to work, but I just have never jury rigged it before, so it didn't work. It didn't work. And it's like, it can really fuck your record up, you know, if you're like frustrated on on tech stuff.

Yeah. going in. You know what it, what I was just thinking, Ben, is that for all of the challenges that we've had on tech up until now, and I'm looking, we've, this is episode 278, and that does not count any of our live shows of which there are a couple of dozen. Yeah. We've gone undefeated in all that time. I think this is the first loss we've ever taken on tech. An idea we had didn't work and tech was what did it.

Yeah. We're more than 278.0. Yeah, we lost the belt. Yeah. That was the match that lost us the belt. That sucks. That really the match that lost us the belt. That sucks. That really sucks. Oh well.

I'm confident it's gonna be a great show anyway. Yeah. Without us having to look at each other during. One fringe benefit is that I don't have to look at video if you will. What is going on? We should, so here's what I'm gonna propose. Nuke the fuck it will do at live square.

Whoa. Turn it into something else. What should it be? It's the worst earth. Yeah. God damn. It should just be a crater. Fucking hey.

What happens if we hit the crater? Change the head to a head wound and just a puddle. Wow. I don't have any ideas for what it could be instead, but it should be something. I feel like if we walk away from this conversation not doing it, the problem is people will send us ideas. Oh, we don't want that. We do not want. We should avoid that at all costs. Just posting that we were going to be doing this live stream.

I would say like half a dozen people tweeted at me, why aren't you doing it on Twitch? Yeah. Is this the answer? No, because you have to use the same stupid software to make Twitch work. Yeah. It wasn't YouTube.com, that was the problem.

It was that YouTube.com dropped a feature. God, we're gonna get so much mail. Listen. Fucking suck. Listen, if you have a neckbeard and you feel like this is a good time to send an email, just don't. Ben, I don't want to pile on. But there was something that I wanted to talk about

during our mirror and open. And I want to talk about it before too much time goes by. I have a feeling that this is gonna be another one of my failures that you want to talk about. I know I want to be gentle and encouraging in this, but there was a story, so we recorded an episode of greatest discovery from Star Trek Las Vegas. And that was super fun.

We did it with JK Woodward. And that episode has, by the time this episode comes out, will have been out for quite a while. Yes. The problem with that is that there was still a good day left at adding around Star Trek Las Vegas that we couldn't possibly discuss because it hadn't happened yet. Star Trek Las Vegas that we couldn't possibly discuss because it hadn't happened yet. Yeah. And something happened toward the end of that day that I would like to interrogate with you. So I made some mistakes. I'm just going to say that right now. I think one of the reasons that you and I travel so well is because we are of the

understanding that that there is travel hygiene to pay attention to. And one of the areas of that is making sure that we're not late going to the airport. And I think the both of us are of the same mind about this. And we both have wives that are of opposite minds about it. Yeah. That are like get to the airport when you get there. Right. It'll be fine. Yeah. Neither of That are like, get to the airport when you get there. It'll be fine.

Yeah. Neither of us are like that. No, like my thing is like I would be much happier sitting around on the other side of security for an extra hour to get to the airport and know that almost no matter what, I'm going to get on my flight. Yeah. So if there is a crazy situation at TSA, it's fine, it's not an emergency, we're not going

to have to ask people to let us cut them because we're at the airport late. Right. That's not us. Right. What unfortunately was me at the time was that I decided to play Crap's before leaving for the airport and chose the half an hour before our Lobby call time as the time to begin. Ha ha!

Oh man, you played that game, don't you? And Rolled as hot as I ever have in my entire life, which really put us in a pickle. Do you think that those two things are related? Like the fact that there was a ton of schedule pressure on you made your roles better? I have no idea. It was me and good friend of the show, Grant, at the Crap's table, and it was you and friend of the show,

Bill Tilly hanging back watching this happen. Dispassionately watching, I should say. Yeah, Bill was drinking a hoof. He had a hoof drink going. My hoof had already been rinsed out and put in my backpack. I am rolling and looking at my watch. And rolling and looking at my watch. I think I was looking at my watch and you were rolling.

Goodbye, self-knowledge suit with this roll. And then from behind me, I started to hear call time plus three. Call time plus five. Call time plus seven. And here's the thing, like I had not rolled my point yet. So I'm rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and all I wanna do is hit the point so I can leave because

All of my money is out on the table. Yeah, and so I finally got the point Hey easy easy a 5-3 is the front line when I did very well in that moment I was very excited. I showed a display of emotion that In retrospect was embarrassing and and at the time was deeply confusing to Ben because I believe I hugged him. Yeah, you hugged me. I don't think I've ever hugged you. I think you hugged me and I had

like abandoned all hope at this point. Wow. And I was like, am I getting hugged because we're leaving now? Yeah. And then I, and mid hug, I realized there's no way that's what that means. Yeah. The hug was, it's over and we ended up on the winning side. So for all of that, I ended up getting us to the airport

right in time to board. And that is not how we do it. You were flying to Seattle and I was flying back to LA, but our flights were leaving like within five minutes of each other. And at neighboring gates. Gates were right next to each other. Yeah, so we get to our gates, we say our goodbyes.

I'm waiting for my board time, Ben's waiting for his board time, and then I get a text, Ben, what did the text say? I believe it said, freaks is in my boarding area. At this point, time just kind of stops once again. Could you remember the tallest band you've ever seen? Because of your diamond butt plug status.

And because of the assumed diamond butt plug status that a Jonathan Freaks would have. You're right. It's fact. We have now entered into a sort of lottery ticket mode. Ben had holding such a ticket. What if he gets sat next to Jonathan Freaks? Yeah.

I mean, it was really exciting just to see him. I mean, we'd been at the Star Trek Convention and I'd seen him on the floor and I'd seen him up on the stage, but like seeing him in a civilian context is pretty exciting. And, you know, like that's Commander Raker, like that's the man right there. You're right again. It was like a, I also got like a crazy bifurcated star-struckness, which was that as I started walking down the jet bridge, I realized that Daniel Kaluya from Get Out was also on the jet bridge with me.

Ben, you know what that means? Is if the plane went down, you wouldn't even be a footnote in the article. No. No. You wouldn't even make the o-bit. You know, my wife might have popped a bottle of champagne. There would have been some celebration in some quarters.

Ben, I'll tell you this, I would have been you. I shall have been you. Oh, thank you. You would have been me to the Delta airline corporation. I mean, let's be honest, I'd probably still fly Delta. I mean, they're the best of what's out there. You're pot committed at this point. Right. Does your status transfer to a next of kin in that situation?

Oh, I don't know. I don't know if you can put your status in your estate plan. Wow. Well, I just want to say that I would appreciate that if that were something you'd be able to do. I was, I did get the upgrade. So I was in the first class section for the like 40-minute flight back to LA. And I found my seat in a row across from Daniel Kaluia, which was, it was very fun to watch like all of the young women come aboard the plane and notice him and get like flushed and distracted, because he is like, he is a really devastatingly handsome man. And and distracted because he is like, he is a really devastatingly handsome man. And nobody was really bothering him or like trying to talk to him.

I saw, I saw maybe one or two people stop and just kind of like whisper like big fan of your work. I think Frakes is a little bit like despite being a very like, I mean, he's a tall man. And but he's, I think with the beard and like wearing a flannel shirt instead of a Starfleet uniform, he maybe doesn't stand out as much and isn't quite the like, the idol that Kaluya is right now. It's a horrible thing to say to a man. He's an idol to me, Ben. Yeah. And to me. And I was like, you know, I was hoping to walk up and say something to him.

Did he get into his first class seat by swinging his leg over the top? Ha, ha, ha, ha. I didn't actually watch him get into his seat because he was on the plane quite a bit ahead of me, but how often in first class do people order hot tea around Daniel, Caluya, and then just like stir it as loud as they can. That must be so annoying.

Yeah, I just leaned over to him and said, I would have voted for him a third time. So you're set up a cross-rose. So not next to you, but in like the two and two configuration, you're like that, yeah? Yeah, and then the last person to board in the first class section was my seat neighbor. And when he got on the plane,

I was like in the last row of first class. And he got on the plane and started asking a bunch of people if they would trade seats with him. Because he had a friend in another seat that he wanted to sit next to. And I think that who he asked was Freaksaks I didn't realize this at the time. I saw him ask like asking people if they would trade with him But then he got back to me and he asked me if I would trade seats with his friend and I said is it an aisle seat? And he said yes, and I said okay

And I get up and I make eye contact with a friend and I realized that the friend was sitting next to Friggs. Oh shit. So in my mind, this is basically torpedoed a non-creepy me saying hello to Friggs. Because if Friggs wasn't paying attention, he could just as easily assume that you wanted to trade seats to be next to him.

You were correct. Pressy small. Fuck. And so I sat there next to, you know, an acting and directing hero of mine. A superstar. A superstar. And I'm very conscious of the fact that he's just been at this convention. And like, it is possible for people to get rung out by being at a thing like that

where almost everybody there would like a piece of them. Yeah. And so I just didn't want to... Like, I felt like I wanted to find an opportunity to say something one we were on the ground and he had an exit. Yeah. To go to so that it didn't feel... Like, and I was on the aisle, you know, I was like in between him and... Yeah, you were blocking his exit.

Yeah, so I didn't wanna do the big fan in that context. I just didn't feel like it was appropriate. And he seemed to be busy. He was like watching episodes of television and in a way that looked to me like he was like familiarizing himself with something. Oh, he wasn't watching Picard screeners. No, he didn't.

Hey, you might if I just put my headphones splitter in here and... Ha, ha, ha, ha. The other thing that was weird was I was like dicking around on my phone and the flight and I didn't want to open anything that had like a bunch of Star Trek imagery in it. Oh.

Because I knew that if he saw that, then he would make me for the creep that I felt like I could be potentially. A similar story occurred in the state of New Jersey about 20 years ago. And so I was like, all right, it's New York Times Crossword puzzle. That is the only app I can have open.

Like even Twitter is too risky. I want to say for our greater listenership that I was encouraging to the point of annoying in I just I would not let it go. I I went so far as to give you a fucking line reading about what to say to him. Like that's how fucking ass holy I was about this because I really thought it was a now or never situation It might not be there might be other opportunities, but I just feel like I Felt at the time and the factors that you've described are mitigating and understandable and I totally get it

I hope it's not your last opportunity. I hope so too I really believe it won't be because I think we've decided that the Star Trek convention is going to be a part of our year going forward, something we want to try and make happen on a regular basis. And I think there will be other chances. I mean, we had that great interview with Anson Mount on the greatest discovery, which I think will probably be out by the time this is out. Yeah.

And like, that just landed in our laps because Rob went and asked for it. And I think that that, like we could have experiences like that plenty of times. I think the lesson here is that, Rob probably should have sat next to Jonathan Frex. You were right. yeah, definitely. Ben, I was upset with you at the time.

I hope you don't believe I'm truly upset with you now, and I'm even less so after hearing what was going through your head, but man, what a fucking thing, you know? Kind of a lot's going through my head about it. I am sad that Saying it's a missed opportunity assigns blame in a way that I don't intend but like generally it's it's like a missed opportunity You know, yeah fuck what did you smell like? Neutral did not smell him. What did he eat and drink? Only water did not accept a beverage when it was offered. Did not accept any of the snacks that were offered.

Was he a get up in the middle of a 40 minute flight to go pee? No, but I sure was. And Daniel Kaluya was. I was in front of Daniel Kaluya in line for the bathroom. I'm closing my eyes and I'm putting my hands in front of me like in in prayer Ben when I ask the final question is Jonathan Freak's a seat recliner? No, God thank God Did not recline there's there's especially no need to recline in first give me a fucking break about that

But it's also less of a crime in first because usually you have a lot more room in front of you. Yeah. Wow. Well, one last heroing story from Star Trek Glass Vegas this year. I hope we add to the collection at Star Trek Glass Vegas 2020. Yeah, me too. Thank you for sharing your pain with me. You want to get into the episode Adam? Yeah, I really do. It's a deep space nine season five episode four nor the battle to the strong. Do you realize how incredible this seems? No, of course you don't. Heading back from a conference with Jake and Bashir, Adam.

Never a good sign. No, this classic opener because this is a classic way to get into trouble. And this is Jake kind of on assignment as a, he's, I guess, writing like a New Yorker profile of the brilliant doctor. If there's any crew person that would be more game to have a writer tag along with them and like just right of their adventures, like this bishier Jake pairing is kind of perfect. I think most of the people would be annoyed by the idea of a cub reporter following them around, but this seems like it's perfect.

Jake is also like, we're in his head a little bit in the scene in the like slightly echo if affected, like sitcom way of listening to somebody's thoughts. Yeah. I find a way to get out of doing this article. My first writing assignment is going to be my last. It was pretty jarring to me. How did that go for you?

The more I think about it, the less I think it was a great choice. Because Seraq Loftin is telling us everything that his inner monologue is saying, just in his phaseral expressions. We can see that he doesn't understand any of the techno babble Bashir is spedding off. We can see how obnoxious enough up his own ass, Jake thinks Bashir is. Just in the way the performance is done.

Everything that's ever drilled into your head in film studies or film production is like show and not tell. And whenever we go to this Jake voiceover, it is show and tell and tell a little more. Yeah. It's weird. They get a distress signal from a federation colony that the Klingons are attacking. And specifically, this colony needs medical aid. And Bashir is like kind of hesitant at first, but Jake is really riding for the danger.

I can handle myself. I'm a Cisco. And I think very deftly kind of plays to Bashir's ego to convince him that this is the thing to do. Jake feels excited about the prospect of being a sort of war correspondent. Yeah. And this is a type of character that we've run into a couple of times on our hit podcast, Friendly Fire. But Jake is young and Bashir is reluctant to bring him into this thing. And also, I mean, I think we're starting to get a greater understanding about just what Starfleet Protocol is in these circumstances. It's a lot like being out on the water.

Like when someone has a distress call, you go regardless of your situation, even if you're in a, like basically, Jake and Bashir are in a party barge right now, and they're like going on a rescue mission. Yeah, we've seen the runabouts in combat a couple of times, and I was kind of surprised at how much it is treated, just as a minivan in this episode. Right. Because once they're at the planet, it sort just as a minivan in this episode. Right.

Because once they're at the planet, it sort of becomes a non-factor. Yeah, and so Jake twists his year's arm into theme song. We've got a little McLaughlin group. Is your walk in ops that is centered around the urgent topic of how are we gonna get Kira drinking decaffeinated Ractogenos. Is Ops really the place to do your cupping? I don't think so. It does seem like a thing that would happen in the bar, right?

This is one of these DS9 scenes in an episode that's really about two characters that it's going to spend most of the time with, like let's get all of the characters that we didn't really write parts for in this episode into one scene together and get them out of the way so that it makes sense that their names play during the credit sequence. Yeah, nice half day issue for most of the cast. This is also a big missed opportunity because the drink is gross. I get the best I could. Kira says it's gross.

Oh, it's awful. O'Brien says it's gross. Let me taste it. Quark. Wurf is standing right there. Give Wurf the drink to say it's great. Delicious. Yeah.

Come on. That's what Wurf is for. Wurf loves gross things. He loves it. What's about Warf as far? Warf loves gross things. He loves it. That's a great point. The issue is that Kira drinks a couple of cups of coffee every day, and Miles has decided that that's not good for his unborn child.

I know that pregnant women often knock it off with certain types of fish and they don't drink. Is coffee something that you don't drink when you're pregnant also? Of all of the things that a pregnant woman would have to sacrifice that seems like one of the most difficult ones, if true. Yeah, huge if true. Yeah. It's kind of a weird and gross scene. Like when they're talking about this, Dax makes the case like, hey, you know, like it's her body who likes up to her.

And all the dudes just kind of like are like, yeah, but property rights and the babies like renting that space. And it's like, they get the last word in and that's what they end with is basically treating Kira like she's an apartment building. To be clear, this is Quark's line of dialogue about a womb being a rental. Yeah, but I think that Wurf, Odo and O'Brien agree with Quark. Regardless of how fucked up it is to have those feelings about pregnant women, it colors a lot of

Farengy culture in a very short amount of time. It does. I thought it was totally in keeping with everything we know about Farengy or Farenganar. And in that way I was totally for it. Yes, that is obviously what Quark would think and say. Right. Well, to be charitable to the other gentleman in this scene, perhaps they don't get to respond because this is when Cisco walks in and tells everybody about what's going on with Jake and Bashir. Something wrong, Captain. Hard for him to know exactly what's going on with Bashir and Jake

throughout this episode. Yeah. And all he knows at this point is that there are too far away to get to in less than three days. And so the Farigate has been dispatched to the planet to pick them up. I feel like we saw the Farigate in an episode of TNG, didn't we? Ben, you saw the Farigate at the end of Star Trek Generations. It was the ship dispatched to Veridian 3

Oh, damn! To pick up the survivors of the Enterprise D. Wow! It's a DelSoul class starship. Good call. Yeah. I guess, yeah, those DelSouls are like the kind of weapons platform version of the Galaxy class.

Yeah. Those are like the kind of weapons platform version of the galaxy class. That makes sense that they would be putting it into the war zone. The 24th century del Sol is sort of a great rig. I like it. Yeah, so the ferragut is a day and a half away from this planet and the little D is three days at best speed from this little planet. So they are going to leave things to the fair again. But I mean, I don't obviously know all of the context, but it seems weird that the little

D is just keeping it parked during this conflict with the Klingons. I mean, Sulu would attempt to fly a repart getting her to this planet. Right. Yeah, like Sulu on his way to Agilon would be like, you're best speed. I don't care if the ship explodes. Increased power to the structural integrity field. I don't care if every cup of tea falls to the ground. You've got a problem with that, mister. I don't care if every cup of tea foes to the ground.

You've got a problem with that, Mr. We say this all the time. The disuse of the little D makes no sense. Yeah, especially in a war thing. Yeah, it feels like production wagging the story, Doug. I guess if you're just worried that the gemhead arc could come through that wormhole at any time, like you need something with some teeth there, I don't know, man. You need another little D. You need to have a cling on amount of little Ds at deep space

nine, which means two. Yeah. You get two of them. You get one for your conferences and one to hang back in the cut. Yeah. We can agree on that. Jake and Bashir, get down to this planet and it's kind of a makeshift hospital that has been set up in some Star Trek caves. The actual settlements have been bombarded, so they needed to kind of move everything into safe space. And it's a very chaotic scene. There's lots of gurneys with bloody soldiers being moved around.

Bashir makes himself known as a physician and is in the fray, helping triage people really quick. And Jake initially is just stunned at what he's walked into. I gotta get a grip. They beam into a hospital procedural television show. And this is a visual theme that will play out for the rest of this episode. It's really complex when you have foreground and background actors moving and they're like

carrying people often or stretching them around. And so you have actors acting in every inch of the frame. It's a really difficult task to pull off. And you get it, I feel like for half of this episode. I think they do a great job of with Jake of giving that feeling that kind of anywhere he stands, he's in the way. Yeah.

And, you know, having experienced that and then like imagining that it's kind of a life or death thing that you're in the way, really makes this scene feel super intense. They do a good job in beginning macro and racking it into micro with what's happening. Like the scope of the problem is fairly large. There are a lot of bodies to process

and try to fix up, but it is a man with a foot injury that I feel like is one of the first characters we get to know among the wounded. This guy comes in and he's in like federation hockey pads. Right. And he should probably not be fighting crime because of that. We're trying to help you.

I don't need help. Yeah, his gym bag smells really awful. He has a bad foot injury and he says that he was shot by a disruptor in the foot. This is something that Bashir is able to dispute almost immediately with the help of a scanner. This is a face-a-bud. And upon learning that this was an injury

that foot guy gave to himself, like the look of disgust And upon learning that this was an injury that Footguy gave to himself, like the look of disgust on Bashir's face is pronounced. Yeah, it seems like kind of on the fly lowers the priority of getting this guy back on his feet, right? Yeah. Yeah, he like walks away and says, we'll get to you eventually. This guy I read and this scene was a last moment ad in. They came up three minutes short on the episode and they needed to add a scene. Wow.

And this scene is so important, I think, in the episode. I can't imagine the episode without it. It's like the dude's rug. Yeah. And it's the room together. Yeah. And this guy appears later on a few times and his foot injury is regarded, but without this initial scene, I think all of the ones that follow are a little less interesting or

important. Yeah. So Jake hops in as a field promoted nurses aid. He's running around, stretching people and doing what he can in triage. And the passage of time montages here are pretty fun. Like you can tell time goes on because they're getting more and more dragiled and dirty and like covered in gore and stuff. More blood on their weird hospital scrubs. Jake hasn't been this dirty since he had to work that double.

It's Cisco's restaurant. Yeah, but he's also writing when he gets a moment. So it's like, he's really gone Gonzo with his right up of Bishir. There's some pretty heavy moments in here. Like they show a room full of body bags, which is probably like the biggest pile of bodies since that episode where Dr. Crusher imagined that they were all sitting up in their morgue beds.

Go away. You know, there are two different tastes that taste the same kind of horrible. In that Dr. Crusher episode, like, the nice neat rows of body bags are a kind of horror. Yeah. But in this scene, when they're stacked up like cordwood up against a rock face in a cave, it is a totally different flavor to that same dish. It is pretty rough.

But it seems like they get through it and they're really bonding like eventually Bashir and the other two doctors are like chilling against a Bull Kid catching a couple of moments off their feet Adam. Did you clock this boolean? I mean I clocked him, but is there something interesting about him? That's the guy that played Francis Bucston in Peewee's Big Adventure. Shut the fuck up, really? Hardy's over. So soon, today is my first day and my father said I can have anything I want. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. You believe me, don't you, dad? Yeah. They did have, they actually, once they added that three minutes with the soldier The episode started to run long and they had to cut the scene where he chewed the fruit gum and made all the black goo come out of his mouth That's great really fun to see that guy. Did you clock him through the boolean makeup or did you look him up? I did I wasn't I wasn't sure but I I was like I think that's Francis Bucston under there,

and I looked it up and found that it was confirmed. Great get, then. That was awesome. Mark Holtin. Does he have a Star Trek career? Like, is he in a ton of things? Oh, look him up. Doesn't look like it. This scene is really interesting and good to me because it feels like any other really hard job

once it's over and there's nothing left to do, you just kind of collapse. And you're a real person again. Yeah, you're letting your circuits cool down. Almost. Back on DS9, Odo and Cisco are discussing the arrest of a dabbo cheat in Cisco's office. And it feels like one of those conversations

where Odo is really put into disadvantage because Cisco has heard a story only he wants to hear Odo tell it. Yeah, no kidding. I wanna hear your version, Odo. It's Odo's a little bit embarrassed too. I mean, this is not necessarily the kindest way to talk to one of your subordinates about an injury they sustained on the job. It sucks. Like, Odo's used to

sliding over the hood of a car and looking awesome as he busts crime and he fucked himself up. His human body is weak compared to the goo that he once was. What happened? Spirit is willing with the flesh, his spongy and bruised. Well, and he's also like, he's still got all these instincts of, I'm gonna turn into a bird, and attach these motherfuckers.

And it's such a great little character detail that it's taking him some time to adapt to solidity. Do you wanna see it, though, Ben? I wanna see Odo jump from a railing and like flap his arms and then like fall out of frame. Yeah. That poor guy. Yeah.

But the story kind of reminds Cisco of Jake in that this fragility of a human body suddenly puts Jake's circumstance into sharper focus for Ben Sisko. Ben Sisko cannot help but compare this back to the danger that his son and Dr. Bashirin and it really kind of like bums the hangout and Odo is like, you know, like there's nothing you can do, so why not just not worry, which is a lovely suggestion that I wish worked. But that's like one of his not fully understanding what it is to be human yet. Yeah. Things.

And they're talking about this and then DAX runs in and with the awful news that the Farigat has been destroyed. RSVP, the Farigat, it was wrecked at the Elombada cluster, so I guess it was thrusted to death. The forbidden cluster, Ben. Oh, man. I hate that we lost the Farigat. It's not right. I do too, but I feel like it adds some Import to it that it's a ship that we know it feels like a rarity that the Klingons

You know score a point like that like the destruction of a federation ship by Klingon vessel seems like an escalation Even though probably isn't even though probably happens all the time in this conflict, but wow That's tough back in the caves. we're still in that refractory period of all of that trauma hospital setup and we're in kind of a commissary scene. And everyone thinks that they're back to normal, including Jake, until Jake attempts to cut into a chicken thigh on top of a rice pilaf situation.

And it makes him real sick. The thought of it. It's one of the most normal food that we've seen in the history of Star Trek. And that's what makes him have to pop. Do you think that's what an MRE is in Star Trek? It's normal food and then like all future food is like all the oddly colored fucked up. Siphon shit.

Right, you MREs, you can't riker in deer mouths. Yeah, that's why you'll Brian likes MRE so much It's just like a baked potato Noodle casserole. Yeah, that's good head cannon Adam at this point We should probably introduce sort of our two main guest stars of the show. It's Kirby, who's the younger hospital worker, and then there's Kalandra, who's the lady doctor that runs the show down here. Kirby is befriended Jake throughout. Kalandra is a more standoffish authority figure.

She's the one that asks Beshear if he has any news from the front because her colony here has been kind of cut off and isolated. There's not a lot of news getting through. And he describes some action involving the Rutledge and the Tachamsa. Says that the captain of the Tachamsa is one of the best in the fleet to calm her down because her husband is the science officer. New word on the captain of the Rutledge. Whether that captain is any good or not.

Ben, do you think when you're working out on the Tacumsa, you get a workout shirt that says come? Like the discovery shirt that says disco? Yes. Like the mission patch for the Tacomza is just a sperm. The mission patch is just that emoji that's three droplets of water. I think I understand why there are choices that Sirac Loftin makes in expressing the trauma that he's feeling in this circumstance. One of them is eating soup from long range. Did you notice this? Yeah, he's got the soup bowl like up over top of the other food that he has in front of him. And then he's like, he's reaching across

his chicken thigh plate into the soup. And then we run like, he's reaching across his chicken thigh play into the soup. And then we run into this sometimes when we eat Korean barbecue, there's the stew on the table. And you're encouraged to like extend your arm out, dip your spoon into the stew, and then bring it back to your mouth without somehow spilling it on the table.

It's insane. It's like Jake got a game for his PS4, and he's setting it up, and it's eat food the table. It's insane. It's like Jake got a game for his PS4 and he's setting it up and it's eat food the game. And it says, how hard of an experience do you want this to be? And he just, and he puts all the settings all the way to the top. He wants to be on God mode. One of the differences between Star Trek Field Hospital and any other Star Trek place Ben is the real pillows of a colony hospital. We get a scene where everyone's trying to sleep later and Jake can't, he's still too fucked up.

But real, what look like feather pillows down there? Looks really nice. Yeah. Like preferable to be honest. It does. Yeah. The gurneys also have nice pillows. Yeah. Like the pillows are good.

Jake's gonna go back to DS9 and be like, what the fuck are these triangle pillows all about? I was in a war zone and I was sleeping better than this. They had pillows that were four times this size. You know, that's the thing. You get used to a pillow of a certain size and then you change it up like this. You wake up with a really bad neck ache. I bet that would happen on jigsand there. Yeah, I've really fucked myself in life because I like a really firm, heavyweight pillow. Yeah. But then everywhere you go, every hotel has the thinnest, lightest pillows. Yeah, they're making you double it up, and that's not a good situation. No, I hate it.

It's during this bunk bed scene that the hospital is hit with some bangers, and it knocks out the power. That's a problem because everyone is on a kidney dialysis there. Yeah, they need the power to keep all these people alive, that they're keeping alive, and there are, you know, portable generators exist, but they don't, you know, all the ones that the colony had are being used to keep the shields up. So Bashir and Jake realized that the runabout has its own generator. And everybody's like, what?

You have a runabout? What the, why didn't you tell us? We could be using that for air support. We could be taking the fight to the Klingons. We could be extending the shield around the hospital. Yeah, you parked it a kilometer away. What? That's the other insane thing.

So stupid. What are they doing? I feel like the scene that they cut out was Bashir teaching Jake to drive a shuttle. And it's Jake's fault. Jake parallel parked, but it's like way too far from the curb. So the plan is hatched. They need the generator from the runabout. And so Jake and Bishir sneak out through a tunnel to get it.

And as soon as they emerge from the tunnel, it is like all very gentle artillery fire. Yeah, the kind of artillery fire that causes a small puff of dust and rocks to come out of the ground. Sort of like if you've ever filled a tennis ball with match heads when you were a kid, If you've ever filled a tennis ball with match heads when you were a kid, that is more explosive than what we're getting here out of these artillery shells. Yeah, I mean, I would say that from a dangerous standpoint, these don't look great. I think that the sound design really helps, but also what helps is the fact that it's actually sitting in Tserok rock loft and running around here. Like there are a lot of shots that I think it would normally have stuntmen in. And

they're really like setting off whatever this effect is near Jake and this year. And if given the choice, I would rather have it this way. Give me the real actors. Yeah. So this is pretty terrifying and they don't seem to be able to get to cover, but she is like, all right, one way or another, one of us is gonna have to get that generator back to the hospital, so follow me, stay close, keep your head down, and basically no sooner as he said this than a a banger goes off

and Jake just breaks for the hills. Yeah, it's not a good look for Jake Cisco. He panics. Yeah. It's not a good look for Jake Cisco. He panics. Yeah. He's not a soldier. Yeah, he's not a soldier. Like this episode goes pretty deep on like his feelings about what happens to him in this scene.

Yeah. But it made a lot of sense to me in the moment. Sure. It doesn't jack up the melodrama. Like, you could feel like there might have been a scene less traveled that ends on Bashir, like reaching out for a Jake that isn't there. But we stay with Jake throughout.

And I think that's intentional and good. Like, this is not a scene about Bashir at all. And it never was because we're with Jake the entire time. Yeah, I think, and crucially, we leave Bashir before we know what happened to him. So right. You know, when Jake is walking around after this, you keep in your head that he, as far as he knows, Bishir got, got blown apart in that onslaught. Right. As Jake staggers away, he, he falls into a crater with a, a surviving soldier, soldier, a federation guy.

Maybe the goalie for the federation hockey team. He looked to me like he could have been Willem Dafoe's brother, like Frank Dafoe. I wrote down alcoholic Robert Redford. The soldier is definitely Lieutenant tough love. Because he has some lessons to teach young Jake about bravery and heroism. Yeah, kidding. He's badly blown apart and like, you know, he wants morphine, he wants Jake to make sure that he doesn't die with his face in the dirt.

He wants to be facing the sky. Yeah. But, you know, Jake is like, hey, why don't I see if I can carry you back to the hospital? And what is hilarious, because this guy is clearly like 275 pounds if he's announced.

And he's also like, hey, yeah, if I get up, all my guts will fall on your shoes. Yeah, this lieutenant is an absolute unit. There is no way like soaking wet 140 pounds, Sirac Lovton is going to fireman carry him out of this crater. Yeah. So yeah, he has to spend a pretty harrowing last moments of this guy's life

with him. Yeah. Get say a ketchup packet full of water from the guy, which is nice. If you needed a little bit of a stress break, you get one here because we cut back to the little D and we get a little interregnum that includes Dax and Cisco just talking about Ben Cisco's worries for Jake. Yeah, Ben has really thrown himself into any work he can find for himself. He does not want to be alone with his thoughts.

It's interesting that this scene takes place in the engineering section of The Little D because it's the same place where Cisco disappeared in the visitor. And it made me wonder, like, shouldn't Ben Cisco give the Warp Corps kind of a wide berth? I Think I would I wonder if that makes it like a special place for him though. Yeah, that's interesting That's some like one of the most intense experiences with his son right there That's some real like three-dimensional callback chess if true I wonder, this episode was directed by Kim Friedman, who we've talked about before. I think from a directing standpoint, it's pretty strong.

Yeah. Yeah. DAX gets deep into her emotions in this scene. Yeah. Because she's talking about, like, previous hosts, children, and how she comforted herself as, you know, by way of offering Cisco some, you know, I've been there. I know what you're going through. Right. And uh... But you hate confiding your fears or your grief with someone and have them so ably crush you with their own. In order to find common cause with you, in order to share that kind

of currency, because Cisco's grief pales in comparison to what DAX has been through and always will. Is it helping? No, not really. It's not a competition, but you always lose when you're doing this with DAX. Yeah. lose when you're doing this with DAX. Back in the hospital, Jake has returned and sort of mixed feelings about hearing the idea that Bashir has gotten there before him. Yeah, I thought this was such an interesting moment because Bashir, then like after the shelling started,

Bashir got up, went and got the generator despite being super badly burned. And like badly burned enough that he's now in the ICU, right, recovering from his burns, but managed to lug this generator bag that he took Jake with him because he said it was a two-man job. So Bashir did something that is unambiguously super heroic, and I think that serves to

further shame Jake for the fact that he ran away. At least within Jake's understanding of what's going on. What we couldn't have possibly known is that Bashir had a Popeye like thermos of emergency field year in. And as soon as he popped that baby open, he was ready to drag that thing all the way back by himself. It's like a gatorade commercial. He's pouring it down his throat, was splashing all over the place, is getting it in his hair, shaking it off in slow motion.

Everything's black and white, but it's just beads of yellow all over him. Emergency field urine. Is it in you? Like Jake does that thing where he's like oh he's probably too busy or sleeping or whatever I'll just go back to the commissary and And what's his name Kirby is like no man. No, he's awake. I just saw me really wants to see you and The meeting at the bedside does not go well. Enterprise, it is.

Awkward as hell. It's great also that Bashir was just as worried about Jake. Right. I like that they both didn't have any idea what happened to the other. It was a real smoke show. That's the one thing you could say about all the mortar shells out there was that it really did obscure a lot of the action.

Well, a lot of smoke, not as many mirrors as you might like, but Jake gets back to work. And the first thing he does is deliver a meal to Ensign self-inflicted wound. And this guy is like thinking about what his life post-fleet is gonna look like because he's obviously Not made of the right stuff to be a a Ground troop the way he is now and his thinking maybe he'll get into mining or something. Yeah asteroid mining Something the future needs. Yeah, whether or not they are the dictionary definition of this, it's two cowards bonding over their cowardice and their understanding of it.

And whether or not it's kind of like the whole premise of our podcast. Right. And how incurable it might be going forward for them. I think the scene is really powerful. Yeah, it's the scene that makes you understand how Jake got to the end of this episode, which is like he drives some comfort in the fact that he can see something

of what he went through in this soldier. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Fresh off of this interaction, Jake is in the commissary. And, you know, it's pretty much it. Fresh off of this interaction, Jake is in the commissary, and you know, it's been implied before that people who work in this field hospital have a form of gallows humor that, you know, allows them to get through some of the pain of what they've been through. And Jake is not someone who prescribes to that idea. He instead turns into the new guy lecturer that no one appreciates.

People are dying before Bashir can remove him from the scene for his own good. Yeah, the Gala's humor is the way that everybody is kind of keeping themselves sane, and Jake really flips out on them. And he's really virtue signaling here in a way that no one likes. I liked it. virtue signaling here in a way that no one likes. I liked it. But she grabs and by the arm and pulls him around the corner and he's like, look man, you gotta save that for Twitter.

All right. Yeah. Like this is the moment where Jake is gonna potentially kind of confess his cowardice to Bashir, right? Like, Bashir can see what's going on that Jake is super conflicted inside. I really like that the episode had the restraint not to make that happen here. I thought for sure it would. Jake's doing that thing that goes like, I don't want to talk about it in bishier is like, just piss into my hands. And Jake is like, fuck you,

man, I don't want to discuss it. And like, I thought for sure that bishier would get through to him and like break him down, but there's this is a scene without a resolution. No, it ends with bishier kind of walking off in disappointment and Jake like huddling in the corner weeping. What I really like is that it's not manipulative. Like Bashir truly doesn't know what Jake did Right. Out in the field and if he did, I think it would make this scene not as good as it is. No, but also like a great scene for Sura Kloften because he gets real deep into those feelings and it's super sad. Yeah. Time is really like clipping along here in this episode because like it feels like we've been down here a couple of days and then we get a next day in the field hospital and it's being shelt. Like the klingons are on the doorstep, shits falling from the ceiling,

girders are coming down, Ben, you know what a bad sign that is. Yeah. And we're getting maybe some of our best production work here. Like there are some panning shots with some like actual sequences of actors like moving to different parts of the set and picking things up and setting them down and running and evacuating like and there's dialogue happening with both our primary characters and the background actors it's it's super complex what's going on and it's really well done.

Yeah, like each each one of these shots is going to take a 10 takes to get it right just because of how many moving parts there are. It feels like everyone has three things to do in every shot. Yeah, and the camera is all handheld in here, so it feels super chaotic. Like you're kind of almost a person's POV as they're escaping. It's really rugged. And we wind up with Jake like cowering under a table in the commissary when Klingon warriors come in and start shooting everybody. And the two members of the Starfleet hockey team that are there with rifles, buy it and Jake winds up having to grab one of those rifles.

I mean, licks and lints of shots in the atmosphere. And we find out later what he's done is bring the ceiling down on the Klingon warriors, but also seal off the tunnel, making safe the evacuation for everyone else. I wish I didn't laugh in this scene. I'm just gonna admit to you that I did. Like there's something about it that was a little bit homelony with accidentally

shooting the ceiling and then dropping the rocks on the klingons. I think the problem with it is almost that the action in the hospital evacuation stuff is so well done. It's a different kind of action, but it's complicated compound sequences with a bunch of stuff going on in different dialogue being exchanged. And then these klingons walk in, they're not ducking behind anything, they're just shooting kind of badly. Like everybody's a stormtrooper here, and Jake just waving the rifle around over his head, seems goofy and bad. Do you think there was ever any thought given to a loss of innocence scene where it's down to one-on-one and Jake has to stab a cling on at close range and lose all of his innocence?

I wondered if that's where it was going to go for sure. Because that is one path you could see a script like this taking to making a character feel like they did something, but I'm glad that they didn't go that way because I don't think that Jake would be able to deal with having taken a life even in a context like this. And it's really consistent throughout the episode that Jake is just reacting to things. He's not making anything happen in his circumstances specifically. And I think that is a way to tell a war story like this, from the perspective of someone who is not a warrior. What I wish I had done is just have him holding the trigger down on that phaser rifle,

like just wave it around once over the table and bring the ceiling down. It is 25th shot that brings the ceiling down, not his first. And I think that that's the mistake. Right. Yeah, I agree. But it's an easy mistake to make. There's kind of an elliptical edit here because Jake is knocked out at the end of this scene physical edit here because Jake is knocked out at the end of this scene by the crashing rocks. And when he comes to at his floor side is Cisco and Bashir.

And their showering praise on him for his heroic actions in blocking the entrance to the cave and allowing the evacuation to continue. Yeah, it's an interesting scene. This is like when we go back to voiceover, but this time the voiceover is the written piece that he submitted to this journal at the end. We get a little montage as we continue of Bashir and then Cisco like absorbing what they've read. And it turns, you know, like the point Captain Sisko makes is that it's like really brave to like look inside yourself and share something this personal with a lot of people. And that's sort of the the way Jake finds a path to redemption in this episode.

They cut away from the scene where Bashir is reading the story too early. Because if they had stuck with it, Bashir would have been like, oh what the fuck, Jake really? You left me out there to die? That's not to say that Ben Sisko's feelings are any less significant, but like there were two people down there and Ben wasn't one of them, you know? This seems like such a great table setting episode for a future Jake and Dr. Bashir's story and there is not even a hint of that at the end.

Yeah, I... I feel that's surprising. But we get a proud dad button on the episode and... I mean, the very last shot, I really want to talk about it before we're done. That Jake smile at the end. I didn't like it. I don't want to end on that tone. Like, I know this might be a show and a time where it's incapable of ending on a dark note, but Bashir got a dark note a couple episodes ago when he was continuing to work on the cure

for that illness on that planet, you know? Like, the show can end sad and I think it's okay to allow Jake to be sad and fucked up at the end of this. I think the smile suggests that he's okay immediately. And I don't think that that's fair to his character. Yeah, I mean, I think that they, I think that the like, the feeling on this show is that this all,

like this relationship always has to have super positive overtones. Right, yeah, it is a Ben and Jake thing, isn't it? On a show where a lot less is reliable than TNG like that I feel like they cue really carefully toward keeping that reliable yeah but I do agree that it maybe isn't a perfect choice in this instance you really want to do this maybe some mixed feelings on the ending but, let's do it. Maybe some mixed feelings on the ending, but did you like the episode as a whole, Ben?

I did. I felt like it was a really interesting episode. I'm sort of them confused about what the status of the war with the Klingons is at this point. Yeah. But I like how much detail it gives you about how the world works. Like they talk about transporter scramblers and hoppers and like, you're just like, these are just things that are kind of like tossed off as references, but give a ton of texture

to the way the world works. Yeah, give me all the jargon. Yeah, I really liked that. Yeah, I did too. Yeah, I mean outside of expecting it to be harder than it was, it was a really strong episode and super competently directed. Yeah. Really well done and complex, like as a production challenge with a number of locations and mixing exterior interior and the station, like a ton of extras, a ton of speaking parts

to characters that we've never met before. Like, the show had a week to make an episode, and this just seems like one of the harder weeks. You could get, if you're drawing your episode to direct, really well done by Kim Friedman. I liked it. You know what else, what else would I like at him though? What's happened?

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If they were to stick, if we were to hang onto the scene a little bit more, I feel like Quark was gonna get disaster kicked. But as it was, we get a quick react and then we're onto the next. Yeah. Pretty serious episode, but a very fun moment from the both of them.

So a shared drunk Shimoda for Kira and Dax. What about you? I love it. Man, I was gonna give it to Jake for not picking up that disruptor when he fell on the Klingon. Just as I like, hey, I'm running around a war zone. Maybe I should get a pistol.

Uh-huh. But I think we can give it to that bullying or being Francis Bucks then. Gotta do that. Gotta do it. I mean, what other, you're never gonna get another opportunity to give a Shimoto to Francis Bucston. No.

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A strange entity takes over Kiko's body and orders O'Brien to complete a secret assignment or his wife will be killed. That just sounds like husband wife stuff. Yeah. I can't tell you how many times this happened to me. Yeah, nothing to worry about here. Why don't we see how we're gonna watch it? That's a great thing to do. Just heading over to Gach that biz slash game where we keep the game of buttholes, the will of the profits, and currently we are on the fuck it we'll do it live square the potentially erstwhile fuck it we'll do it live square yeah where asked one

do you really think that's the last one I don't know we should probably just be in the same room from now on and like turn it into a yeah and look into each other during or something I kind of feel like there's a way to solve this puzzle, but I don't know. Do you want to read all those emails? No. There you go. Alright. You make a good point.

Alright. I would like to be able to do it too, but it's a fucking pain in the ass. It really is. I have the dice in my hands, Adam. I'm getting ready to roll these puppies. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. We gotta go to the airport, Ben.

I don't know if we got time for this roll. Uh, well, if I walk away from the table now, I'll never be invited back to Las Vegas. Ha, ha, ha. Only thing we could potentially hit right now is a corkspush. Yeah. Here we go. The only thing we could potentially hit right now is a Quark's bar. Yeah.

Here we go. I've rolled a five. Tula! Did I win? Harvey. Whoa, right on the doorstep. Put us on the doorstep of that Quark's bar. But does that quite get us onto that Quark's bar?

That for sure you'd hit it. I hit it too. I'm surprised I didn't. I felt that spooky feeling of clear violence, you'd hit it. I'm surprised I didn't. I felt that spooky feeling of clear voice you know. Wow there it is. There it goes. An episode that a technical problem could not possibly destroy. I'm looking forward to it. We will see you next week with that episode. You know who we also see, Ben. We see the people go to MaximumFund.org slash donate, making the show possible with a monthly contribution.

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Yeah, that was really fun. Yeah, get on that current shirt, uh, Topatico's having a hard time keeping that one in stock. It's selling like hot cakes! My favorite part of staying in a holiday in is the continental breakfast and pancake machine. I'm trying to cut carbs But this is a vacation So I'll treat myself. I just can't resist turning the pancake over on the crank machine You and I both love the music on this show. You know where that comes from. It's Adam Ragusia, spin in the ones and the twos. Grabbing the vinyl records from Dark Materia,

cross fading them together into a brand new piece of music. Yeah, you know what this is? Is that like dark materia rummaging in a crate, pulls a record out and hands it to Adam Ragusia who's got like one headphone up off officially, but the other one on, and he accepts the record and he inspects the label and just gives a knowing nod to dark material. Yeah, you know that request didn't come from the dance floor.

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This doesn't involve you. How do you fucking business? Okay, this is their marriage. You can't possibly know the truth of someone else's relationship unless you're living it. Yeah, this is like this is two adults that have merged their lives and like the Conversations they have in private you don't know anything about okay so it's hard it's hard to maintain a relationship you know what marriage is work it's a choice you make every day yeah truly commit yourself every single fucking all right I'm making stop maximum fun dot org comedy and culture art is don't audience

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