The Greatest Generation - Ennui About Un-Wee or Worf Poem Blueballs (DS9 S6E14)

Episode Date: May 18, 2020

When the Rubicon takes Dax, O’Brien and Bashir into a very chilly anomaly, the runabout and crew are subject to shrinkage. But when a marauding tick interrupts this extremely silly science, it’s up to these three pipsqueaks to save the day. What happens to Ketricel when it’s concentrated like this? Does the Dominion practice a form of federalism? How’s the soft swirl in the Defiant’s mess hall? It’s the episode where we hit, and then we run. 🖖 Get tickets to GreatestGenKhan II: Star Trek III! 🖖 Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation. Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark Materia  Follow Adam and Ben on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen! Facebook group | Subreddit | Wiki Sign up for our mailing list!

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That was one of those sitcom show opens in famous for. I'm putting a little stank on my intro this morning, trying to make myself sound happier than I actually am. Quite unhappy in reality. That's the greatest gen brand promise. Are you kidding? Yeah. Yeah, we've not been having a great couple of weeks at them.

I had, I don't even remember if I talked about this on here, but we had like all these power problems in our apartment last week, and then carbon monoxide alarm went off where we had to evacuate the building for several hours. And this morning, we wake up to a text from our next door neighbor like, hey, do you guys drive a Volvo? That is not the message you want to get from anyone and

We go out and look across the street where it was parked and it looks like a Giant like picked up our car and just took a bite out of the back of it. Like somebody smashed it really, really hard and did not stop or leave a note. They just drove off. It's crazy that the smasher would be in such good condition to drive away. Because you sent me a picture. You Jackie and Laurie, to me, a picture of the car. And I was like, there's no way the other car is driving away from this. I'm, uh, yeah, it is a sturdy machine. It is a sturdy machine. This, um, this is a collision where,

like, I imagine every airbag in the other car went, you know, I mean, unless the guy who hit you, and again, I want to be clear, I'm not putting it out there that he did, but that one guy in the open top Jeep that blasts music at 12 volume, like that's a vehicle that would survive ramming into you. And that's also a vehicle that has Mary and Airbag. Right, that's a vehicle made for the Chrome. Yeah, no, this was a Alexis SUV that did it.

Well, you know? Yeah, because my neighbor was like having a cup of coffee in her living room and heard it and she ran to the window to see what happened and she saw this car speed off. Wow. There's pieces of it all over the road where it happened, too.

There's car of it all over the road where it happened, too. There's car DNA everywhere. I can tell you exactly what the paint color was because I have a piece of it's bumper. Wow. Yeah. So. When someone hit and ran me, the other car didn't even stop. They just kept going. Did your neighbors say whether or not this other,

this Lexus even stopped? I think that, I think that this person was, probably extremely drunk and just, may or may not have even noticed that they did that. Man, extremely drunk at 6.30 in the morning is, a kind of drunk. That is a look. I remember those days from college. It's been a challenging

it's been a challenging seven to ten days and I'm really sorry to hear that man. Yeah it was one of those mornings where I had to make like three million phone calls to you know set up the insurance claim, just all of the things. And... Now there's no escape from quarantine. You have no vehicle. Yeah. My in-laws were kind enough to, because they're not going anywhere.

A reason to leave the house for anything at all. So they came and they have two cars. So they gave us, they're letting us borrow one of their cars. Not that we have that many places to drive. My wife does have to go to work at least a couple of times a week still. You like to have the option? Yeah, and you know, we're very lucky that she does not have to get on a bus to do that We're very lucky that this accident didn't happen with you two in the car. That's true Yeah, I mean it's it's a bad enough accident that I think if we'd been in the car We would probably have neck things to deal with for a long time as it is You're the only one in that relationship with the neck thing am I right? Yeah

the only one in that relationship with the next thing. Am I right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's like, it's weird. It's like, it's just a, hey, thank you for leaving me a giant hassle to wake up to. You know, it feels like over the last few weeks, there's been a lot of that shit going around.

I know my wife had some cars definitely. A lot of, I mean, even setting aside the bad news of the world, just the local bad news of a Ben and Adam. It seems to be pretty frequent, and I think, I don't know if it was you who told me this or someone else, but like there just isn't a great big sample size of anything else going on in our lives. So anything that happens to us, like lately, is probably going to be bad. Yeah. Because there's no opportunity for good. Right.

Yeah. I don't. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. Right. Yeah, I don't, yeah, that's, I was saying to, I was texting with our buddy Chris Bowman this morning about it and I was like, you know, just some, some good news would be really fucking nice right now. Yeah. Anyways.

Yeah, you said it. The other side of it is like this all is a drag, but I'm also like very fortunate to like, you know, not have been hurt and also I'm otherwise mostly fine. It's been inconveniences. And I know that that's like, there's a lot of other people

experiencing things that are way worse than inconveniences. So. Right. A ventilator is a little more than an inconvenience. Right. Too a lot of people. Not to mention a lack of a ventilator. Right. A ventilator is a little more than an inconvenience. Right. Too a lot of people. Not to mention a lack of a ventilator. Right. One thing you said while we were texting earlier was, I was like, hey, do you want to just kick the show to another day? And you're like, no, this is actually, this is something good to look forward to. And I agree. Yeah, I always, I'm always buoyed by recording an episode of the greatest generation. So do you want to get into

season six episode fourteen one little ship Of course you don't this is a silly episode, and we know right away what it is because Kira just can't stop laughing about what a silly episode this is going to be. Just because we are shrinking three people to the size of coffee cups. Smaller actual. Right. A little D is out doing some big D kind of work, right?

Like being tasked with scanning a subspace anomaly is not the way your typical DS9 episode opens. They even mention, like, isn't it nice that we can take a break during all this war to go to some science? It is nice, Adam, and it's a fun kind of science where decks, bashear, and obryon and they're going to get very wee. Significant shrinkage. This episode really asks a lot of you. Maybe more than any other episode has. Because, like, the Starfleet really jumps

to human trials on things fast, right? They know what's going to happen. They're sending a runabout with human beings into this compression anomaly. They're ready for human testing. They didn't even do the rabbits thing. They went from probe to runabout. Do you think that that's just the like 30 minutes

before the episode starts? Like, do we come in in media race? Like, we're pretty sure that this is safe to send a run about based on the success of our Reese's Monkey probe. I don't know. I don't know, but like, part of, part of what this episode is teaching you right up front is that it's fine.

Everything's fine. Like, people have a run about not worried. Like, they've planned for this. They saw the probe come back a-okay. You're sure we'll return to our normal size once we clear the anomaly? The probes did, you saw the data. That actually, like, the more I think about it, must be what happened, right? Because, like, a lot of people think that the littleness element that is being brought to play here is very funny and I feel like they must have some object

lesson in that. It's real. It's delicious. It's just gotten smaller that's all. I don't understand why this isn't painful or they don't feel it in any way. Like I think we've been told throughout Star Trek that there is a feel to being transported. It's it's tingly. But when the runabout goes through the, the anomaly, we don't get a sensation. And I wish we did. Yeah, that would be fun. Like, I feel like I'm in a trash compactor captain. Or like different parts of your body shrink at a different time. Like, bishier's dong is five feet long and like, this is a conference of a fire hydrant. I'm just going to turn the other direction. I shall choose to take the zero. There appears to be no book big enough to cover this erection. Noggin Worf don't see what the what the funniness is, what Cisco and Kiro for sure do, and I feel

like danks and bershear do. But O'Brien is not he's not he's not keen on it. Now just not in love with the idea of being small. It doesn't want to be we. Almost less that he doesn't want to be we. Almost less than he doesn't want to be we is that he's concerned about being unwee. He's feeling some unwee about unwee. That's a lot of fun.

You said it, buddy. Aren't we all? We also get a bad case of worth poem, blue balls, the beginning of this episode. With two episode titles back to back like that, how will we choose? This might be, this might be one of those two CD title situations where there's a speaker box, the love below. That's what I'm saying yeah it's it's like we both did solo albums but we released them together one of those fat dual-case

situations yeah love that you smirking there is an ancient cling on tradition that we've never heard of writing a poem to commemorate an important historical event which this apparently is writing a poem to commemorate an important historical event, which this apparently is. So, Wharf has been tasked with this, but we don't get to hear what he's got, because they start to head into the anomaly, right? Yeah, and all does not go according to plan, because as soon as, like, here's the thing, like, the runabout is tethered to the little D by way of a tractor beam. And so the runabout heads in. And as soon as it does, bangers get dropped on the little D with the ferocity.

Yeah, the little D gets a surprise attack by Jam Hidal. And this goes really quickly, like this is a very brutal fight scene. So this goes like we called time out. We were doing science, guys. We were on the break. You can't attack us while we're doing science. Yeah. I wish that the Gem Hedar had like shown any interest in the,

because like, you know, like one of the cases that Wurf is making is like if we can understand this thing, maybe we can open subspace tunnels, we can do Borg style jump around, like this would give us a huge tactical advantage over the gem at our, but the gem at our don't give a shit about that. They're barely aware of the subspace anomaly being proximate to where they finally got their W on the little D. I wonder if when you're breaking this story, you ever play around with the idea of the gem

had our tick being shrunk along with the runabout and then little D going, where'd they go? Like a mini dog fight in the engine room would be fun. That's what I'm saying. And then that sets up the little D as a location for a space battle. Yeah, I mean, that probably adds a lot of complexity to your special effects budget, so.

Right, that probably does all sorts of fucked up things to the white on a molecular level, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like fucking concentrated, man. We're told a little later, the oxygen is a little weird inside and outside the runabout. I wonder if, like, messing with the white if you've been shrunk could really fuck you up. Yeah, I mean, you gotta be careful with that stuff.

Yeah. So the end of our cold open is Gemhead are beaming onto the bridge, taking over the little D. It's render, you will all be killed. It's nice to remember how dangerous these guys are that they can, they can score a victory like this, this suddenly. I like episodes where ships get taken over. But can you remember one where the Federation takes over an enemy ship?

It seems like the scoreboard is not in their favor. Yeah. In these situations. It's not their way, you know? No, it's not. I mean, there is a time time on her tradition of having a Federation ship being taken over and then having little people Involved in rescuing it right I want to take the little D back from the gem hadaw I want to do it now

how about Can you imagine the Can you imagine the the the the Glockland group is your walk before this mission and Wurf and Dax are in there and Wurf is like look I want to be clear I haven't misunderstood anything we're talking about turning the crew including my wife little and not young right little specifically little not young like and I can't emphasize this enough I've been through this situation won't change am I correct in saying that yes not change at all mr. Worf like shut the fuck up oh Brian is like my wife's never stopped having having night terrors after she was made young. Little I can do, young I can't do. I can't risk going back any littler than I already am. But she's got like a glass of indeterminate yellowish liquid and he's like,

I could see being little being quite nice. So we get our little detake over in the theme, but after the theme, we're back on the Rubicon, and the damage is severe. It's a fun kind of damage, too, because it's a blinding kind of damage they'd have to, they've had to lower their shutters, their storm shutters. The blast shield down, I can't even see how am I supposed to fight. And their sensors are down and they can't communicate either. They've got a lot of work to be done, and it's not just the ship. They're all banged up. This is repair and damage assessment work that's being done by Dax and O'Brien. Well,

Bashir runs the dermal regenerators over their faces and stuff. So, I mean, like, non-trivial damage, and they need to see where they're going, they need to start moving, and all of that stuff is gonna need to be addressed by the chief, but, you know, he's the guy that you want in a situation like this. I feel like we're gonna turn ourselves in a conversational nuts talking about the little D and the Rubicon.

Not so little anymore is the little little or are right. Back on the little D, the Gemini are sort of taking stock of their big score. It's great that the mood is joyful. They're like, we finally bagged our whale here. Like getting the defiant was a big big score. Yeah. And there's a couple of gemadar that we meet in this scene. The first is a younger gemadar who is kind of like giving an adaboy to the older second. Must be gratifying for an elder to end his career with a victory. And we come to understand that these dudes are of two different stripes.

In fact, one of them, the older is a Gammu Quadrant Gemhidhar. That's an Xtana Rax. And the first is an alpha quadrant bread, Gemadar, Kudak, a tan. And he's like Urakai. He's like been purpose bread for taking over the alpha quadrant in the alpha quadrant. Yeah, it's one of those things where if you're born in

quadrant, like you get patriated into that quadrant. You're saying he's an alpha quadrant anchor baby? Yeah, he's a saddle Quadrant anchor baby? Yes. Jesus Adam. Yeah, that's how you do it. Wow. So you're kind of like right wing anti-immigration, anti-gem-Hadar immigration activists.

So what you're saying? I mean, it wasn't always called anchor baby with, with derision. I mean, I grew up knowing a lot of military families with kids who were born in Peru and stuff and they had dual citizenship. So that's fun. That's fun. See, if you're if you're an alpha quadrant, Jim Hadar, you can pass through the wormhole without having to show your passport. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I mean, I'm wondering, I think that the Dominions ideas that the Alpha Quadrant and the G quad are going to be under one jurisdiction pretty soon. So it'll be like state-to-state

travel going through that warm hole. This guy, Kadekatown, is played by Scott Thompson Baker, did you read about this guy? I did not. He won a $100,000 prize on Star Search. Whoa. Good job by him. He parlayed his Star Search win into like a soap opera, acting credits. Wow. He's in a co-enbrothers film. He's in a serious man.

Can you imagine? He really did. He's also in Mr. Deeds, the Adam Sandler comedy. How many people can claim an Adam Sandler movie and a Cohen Brothers movie? Not many. Scott Thompson can. Yeah.

Good for him. Yeah. This guy, Xtana Racks and Kudakatan are at each other's throats almost immediately, because Xtana Rax used to be the first, but now he's the second. He's been demoted because of his quadrant upbringing by the Vorta. The Vorta think that if you were born in a quadrant that you're doing missions in, that makes you a better first. The alpha quadrant gem hadara have been tailored for alpha quadrant combat, so they're getting

preferential treatment. They've made the gammas into a bunch of real cucks. Except like he's a real squeaky wheel. This external racks, like he's not just eating the shit and loving it. Yeah, he's got a lot of experience. He's emboldened to second guess the Kudakatan guy too. Yeah, he knows how to lead a group of Jammidhar

and he's also extremely suspicious in a way that the first is not. Like he's always extremely suspicious in a way that the first is not. Right. He's always counseling caution in a way that the first ignores. This always happens. The veteran guy, their advice is ignored by the younger guy. And this external racks has a thousand missions under his belt. This is going to be his last one.

Going out with a bang. It's part of what Kudak Kitan, like, hammers him with over and over again, is like you're too old. You're gonna be retired anyway, like shut the fuck up. Mind your own business, please. What the fuck? Look at you. You're so old. Too old. Really dangly Jim Hedarar white straw out of him. Yeah, oh yeah.

That thing really starts to sag after a few years. The plot that they discuss with the Vorta who's back on the tick is that they're going to get this thing moving and then go pull a surprise attack on a Federation-Delithium mining operation. Surprise, motherfucker! And to do that, they need the warp engines back online, so they're going to go get Cisco out of holding to discuss how that's going to happen. We cut down to the mess hall where Nag Kira, Warf, and Cisco have been confined.

Warf is stamping around complaining about how he's really bad at security. I should have foreseen this. And everybody's like, we know, Wurf, we wouldn't be here if you were to go to security. Nog is like shoved his head upside down in the replicator and it's just like pouring soft, surveyor's scream and do his mouth. We're not really cool to see. It's like materializing like two inches above his open mall. We should do more fun food effects on this show. Yeah, what the hell?

These writers have no imagination. They're just getting their conversation steered toward the idea of retaking the defiant when the Gemini Archum grabbed Cisco and take him up to the bridge. Cisco in this conversation mentioned something along the lines of you know I think we have a little time here because remember how much of a difficult situation it was to fly one of their ships like they're they're gonna have just as difficult of a time flying this one. Yeah so that gives us time to come up with a plan.

On the littler R, they get the shutters open and they are expecting I think to see space or nebula or something when they get the shutters open, but what they see is just a wall of metal. 5,000 meters away and it still fills the screen. And this is a very fun reveal shot where they discuss what this could be. Bashir is like craning his neck too to read the symbols on this wall and then we zoom out to show that the Rubicon is quite we indeed relative to the giant little D. This is a fun effect here.

We really take a tour of the little D in this moment. I was born with a tangled urethra. So when I came out, they did surgery on me. Okay, they're scarring down there. Well, these fucked up. It's got some serious dino damage on the hull when we see the the wide shot. I like what they do with the score here, we get the single brass instrument of accidental

compression. We get that a few times in this episode, but it really starts here. Yeah. It's like a muted trumpet. Yeah. If they do a little bit of math, They're holding their fingers up like, where this hall or this tall and then the ship is this big. And O'Brien realizes that they're going to be able to fit in the bunghole of the ship.

The exhaust pipe is just big enough to fly the compressed runabout through. And at this point, they have no idea that the ship has been taken over. So they're just, they're just all about trying to get the attention of the crew. You'd be really funny if at this moment, they discover that they haven't shrunk, but the little D has gotten huge. How would they know? Yeah. And they just use it, they just leave it big for the rest of the series like Like when they fly into battle with fleets of Gemhead art and

Cardassians, they just like cruise right through them. They like they collect on the on the front of it Like bugs on the front of your car when you drive cross country Warf and Dax's relationship has become super hyper sexualf is like, I did not know how much I wanted this. Now I can get up in them guts, literally. Finally, Jadziya is enough for me. Your angliosaur is bigger than I am, and I would have it no other way. A warrior's ang Cleo sir. We do get a bit of admin business here before we go into the little D and that's the reason why the runabout has remained small is that they didn't leave the

anomaly on the same path that they entered. So we've sort of put that goal out into the distance. Eventually, we're going to have to go back in that anomaly to undo this. We're going to have to reembiggin. Right. And the theory is that they should still be able to do that at some point, but the first order of business is getting on board the ship. On the bridge of the little D, the first and the second, are bickering about getting the ship going again. And this is in the context of Cisco being brought up

and saying, yeah, I can get the ship going again, but I need a bunch of help. Like, this is a big job. And the second is like, no fucking. Like we don't trust you. We're gonna have you fix the ship at gunpoint. And if there's a bunch of you, that makes that job much more complicated. But the first, a trusting rub is like, yeah,

I mean, it does sound like a complicated job. So I'll let you have a few of your guys. He's really like Nouveau, Jim Hadar, right? He just doesn't get how things work. Yeah, he's so gosh. The way he wields his power is newly got firstness. Yeah, I mean, he was just born into it. Yeah.

He didn't have to earn it the way that extanner racks had to. Yeah. He was born with a white spoon in his mouth. Yeah. I love how Cisco has the upper hand, basically, as soon as the starting gun is shot. Like, he sees the angle, he sees the conflict between the first and the second, and he is stirring

that up. There's a point in the episode where he says to Cure, I think, like in a game of wits, I bet on you every time, you know, between you and the gem it are. He's not allowed to say that he would bet on himself, though, right? But I'd like to hear him say that. Yeah. I mean, at some point, it just becomes a little, you know, little needle-pegging how big his ego is, but he knows that he can trick these fools whenever he wants. I really like

when the gem had our throw that whole extermination into Cisco's face, the extermination inside that wormhole. You didn't bring me here to say thank you. That's dark stuff. They know his reputation. Kudakatan has got to be like, you know, in some ways I actually have to thank you because I wouldn't be here. Yeah, if you hadn't exterminated all those gem hadar. Was your understanding in that episode where the unpleasant X-Men? We're doing all that math that the federation did in fact concede a plant capable of manufacturing Ketrasil white to the to the dominion. Yeah, that's so. So the gemmedar are a going concern.

It's not like a different brand of Ketrasil that the alpha gem it are is. Kudekatin. I just have to say that you might want to take a little bit of a different tech post-genocide. I find when I am around other people to present kind of a sad older man vibe. You know, I would never, I've never want anyone to know just how happy I am with my, my performed genocidal of the hoosnuck. I understand I'm not trying to drag you here. It is very hard to know how to feel after a genocidal, because nothing can really prepare you for it. I want you to know if you need someone to take to.

I'm always here. I'm on Delta Rana 4. I'm actually very easy to find. Honestly, if you just call any number on Delta Rana 4, I will pick it. They all forward to me. I mean, one of my regrets is that I really didn't think through the whole gennishite thing to the extent that I would be bugged constantly by visitors to Delta Runafore and people hailing Delta Runafore.

Most of my day is taken up by just doing co-backs. You think about the number of times in a month, you get a phone call from a random phone number and it's just somebody in Chinese or an IRS scam or somebody trying to sell you different long distance coverage. You multiply that by the population of Delta Renafor. My day is very busy, just answering the phone.

What I'm going to say is any amount of variety in those phone calls would be welcome on my end. Believe it or not, you've called Kevin X Bridge. I'm not available to take your curl. I'll call you back if I have a free moment. Where could I be? Believe it or not, those knackerdad. This show only has one joke, but I'm glad that it's that one. It's great. In the elevator on the way down to the engine room where Cisco is going to begin his work. He starts to kind of dig into the wedge issue that is the fact that Extanarax has been made the second. And, you know,

is even trying to kind of instigate some descent from Extanarax toward the founders. Like, what, like, the founders think that the Alpha Gemhadar are better for this job. What do you think? Alpha, Gemheadar are better for this job. What do you think? And that's some pretty controversial hot takes if you're a Gemheadar, I wanna say. Yeah, I mean, this is just peak Cisco here. Like stirring it up. Dividing conquer.

I mean, it's unclear whether or not he sees the path out of this, but he knows one thing, and that is if he can sew enough discord between these two, it's gonna be better for him. I thought it was pretty interesting that Xtannerax gave up as much about how this works as he did. He would think that the Gemadar would be a little bit sneaky about the fact that a new breed of Gem Hedar has, you

know, has been developed. Like, you'd think that that would be like a state secret, but it doesn't really like, he doesn't seem to care about telling Cisco about how that was done. I kind of got a little short time or vibe from extantorax in that what happens to him after retirement? Does he go and die? Is that why he is so quick to quip and cut into Cadacitan? Oh, he's got like senioritis. Yeah, like I'm wondering what's motivating this, and I wonder if it's that.

Hmm, because I don't think ordinarily Cisco would have an easy if the time pitting Xtannerax and Kudakatan against each other. Yeah. Up on the bridge, the Vorda says his goodbyes, they're going to head off and do whatever mission they're going to do. Let's hope the federations, Dilithia miners, will be a surprise to see us as a defiance crew once.

And the gem at our on the little D are going to continue the project of getting the warp engines online. And meanwhile, the little RR is going up the large intestine of the little D and trying to find a way into the ship when the plasma ducts start heating up. And they realize that they're gonna need to find the trap door pretty quickly.

It was Taco night the day before on the little D. Fortunately there is a flap that they can that they can get through and it just goes right into the engine room. Jesus Megan, I'm sorry I want to apologize. I'm not even confident of which end that came out of. I love the sound of this door. When the runabout goes through it, it's a very familiar piece of sound design, and I couldn't quite place it. It sounds like a toy, like a castle grayscal,

flap or something, it just sounded super familiar. I did not hear the sound, but we'll edit it in here. super familiar. I did not hear the sound, but we'll edit it in here. The runabout looks like a toy in this episode, and if we're playing with toys, I think that sound is very at home. We're driving the Lego car through the garage door, and that's the sound it's going to make. Right. I wondered in breaking this story, if they considered having the run about be incapable of using its weapons for some reason, giving us some techno babble to the effect of, oh, the phasors wouldn't work in the scale of the waves that they are putting out would have no effect on the molecules in

normal space or something like that. Yes. I mean, maybe this is just that I wanted to see the runabout fly around the ship and kill all the gem hadar, but it does take a long time before they start licking shots at gem hadar. This was one of the minor beefs I had with the episode was related to that, Ben. It was like, why didn't they compound problems here?

Yeah. They just go with the one problem, the shrinking of the runabout, and then that's it. I mean, outside of the takeover, the little D, I mean, like, I thought for sure they would stack another clock to it, like in 20 minutes of the run about will him big and and they can't control yeah yeah and then it will it will destroy the engine room of the ship right right right so it's a race to get in and a race to get out that What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing?

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Do you think they're just using standard lenses and racked in or are they going, like you can't use a Macro lens, that's too close. Right, I have no idea, like what? The reason I ask is like portrait lenses are used in such a way that they make the face flattering, but this gem had are as warped due to his size. Yeah, it's like a wide angle kind of kind of look, right? You know, they're really thinking about how their lens

here in order to make that effect because if you're just using a regular lens and you're getting up close to a person, right? Sure. If it looks the same, you want that that warp to the face. Aren't most portrait lenses like the minimum focal distance is pretty far. Yeah, like with a wider lens, you can get closer to your subject. That's why you want like an 85 as your portrait lens, right? Right. Yeah. Because it's like forcing you back away is also. Yeah. Yeah. So, so maybe it's just that they like the POV has to be a certain distance from the guy's head, so they have to get a lens that's wide enough to get the whole face in.

That makes total sense. But if that's the case, then I wonder how much work was happening behind the scenes to get this part right, like how much experimentation. I would love to see the camera tests that they did to get these effects. Like, that would be really fun. I wonder if those exist anywhere. Yeah. Is there a DVD special feature of this episode?

Would you like to know more? This scene is the moment where O'Brien finally gets the sensors and comms back online. And it's with the sensors that they're able to just sort of like zoom in and enhance on computer stations and see the status of the ship. Yeah, they sort of turned into a surveillance camera for a little while and they figured out that the four officers working in the engine room under the guns of the jam-hadaar

are in fact not really working on fixing the ship as such. Kira is actually working on fixing the ship. She's taking her sweet time, but Nagwarf and Cisco are all taking part in a deception that is designed to move all the command codes from the bridge down to the control console and engineering so that Cisco can seize the ship back from the Gem hadar. Once they realize this, O'Brien's like,

you know, I mean, Nug's smart and everything, but he's not that smart, like. And now that I think about it, he kind of sucks at this task. So maybe we should go to the bridge and sort of help him out. Yeah, they kind of become the guardian angels of the crew because they're like working secretly

behind the scenes to help their goal. This is a fun moment because like the challenge of getting into the ship is one thing. It's another challenge to get into engineering. And now they have to make their way to the bridge. Yeah, this involves like kind of waiting for somebody to go through a door and then like slipping through it behind them, hiding behind Gemheadar,

as they're walking through the hallways. It's very fun sneaking around and it's like a mechanic of sneaking around that you never get to see. Yeah, it's big fun. It's big, big fun. I think the effects on this episode are really great. Yeah, they look awesome. There's no moment that bumps you.

I noticed like when they're hiding up in the pipes, when they're doing the surveillance camera stuff, like the lighting on the pipes is right, which I don't really know how you nail that. Were they holding like a little miniature ship up there? Or was it CG ship? And then, and they just did a really great job of digitally relighting it?

I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't guess, but it's necessary to sell. Yeah. What's happening here? I think it looks shitty without it. Yeah. So they get up to the bridge,

and they've got to do something with the encryption circuitry on the bridge, right? And then it involves like getting inside a panel, which means they've got to beam a bubble of air into one of the components and then beam the chief in after the bubble of air and all I have 20 minutes to get his work done. And this is like a pretty fast smash cut, right? Like we discover that that's how it's gonna work.

And then the chief tells the doctor, you're coming with me and then they're beaming into the circuit. I mean, what's sad about this scene is that it begins that storyline with Miles O'Brien where he's hooked on, on Huffing Compressed Air. Yeah. Like for the rest of the series.

I'm just gonna take the wrong week, quick step, bro. That's no good. Yeah. I mean, it's like a pretty light episode overall, but the compressed air huffing beginning here is pretty dark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This does introduce a little bit of a of a timeline here because we're told that you get 20 minutes. This compressed air will last 20 minutes, no brands like fine, I'll do the mission, but I'm not doing it without Bashir. So they agree to it. And then they are beamed into a corn maze of isolinear chips, which is great. God, it was so fun. Like the scaled up isolinear chips, they nail the, I love all the like, you know, all the plugs and things, like the labels on the little circuit components.

Really well conceived, I thought. You just know that this stuff was thrown in a dumpster afterwards. That's the sad part. There's no reusing a set like this. Right. When would they ever do that? Yeah. I thought immediately when I saw these guys be men, what are they doing with phasers?

I thought for sure they would run into an ant or something like Honey I shrunk the kids Or a bowl like what if there was a bowl problem on the little D Chief O'Brien slips and falls into a bowl of Cheerios Right, right, but they use the phasers for a little tack weld. Yeah, I love that. One of the components. That was great.

The suggestion of different factions of Gem Hadar is again repeated during the toast of the white that's distributed on the bridge. They never bring like a ton of the white, right? No. That crate is never full. They bring, they bring pints instead of fits to the party and that's just kind of a little cheap. Selfish.

Yeah. That's a great point though. It always seems like they're in danger of running out. Yeah, which is maybe intentional, I don't know. It's called cocaine and you don't want no pot of this out. Yeah, which is maybe intentional. I don't know. It's called cocaine and you don't want no pot of this shit. Kudakatan is like, look guys, we don't need to do the toast anymore. Like where are our own people? Let's just all agree. Action speak louder than words. And we'll prove our loyalty to the founders by fucking up these federation. There is also

some discussion about what the plan B is among Cisco and the other officers helping him with the, with the trying to take the ship back over from engineering. And the plan B is self destruct because not like is having a real tough time cracking the security measures that would prevent this. Yeah. He's like, yeah, if I can't do this captain, like, what do I do? And it's just goes like, oh yeah, we're going to blow up the ship. And you can just see it on Nog's face, like, fuck, why did I join the fucking federation?

This is what I was thinking. I think this is well acted by Aaron Eisenberg, but I wish there was a little bit more time for it because I think there's Dimensionality here where where there could be like three dimensionality here. He's Clearly upset by his inability to make this happen But there's also I think an element that we don't really get which is why am I even here? Not even supposed to be here today. I'm just a cadet and I'm being forced into this situation that is impossible and I'm the worst possible choice

for this element of it. And that part isn't really pronounced. Right. Like the guilt, I think, is what I'm going for, right? Right. The two episodes arc of this, I feel like that's a really powerful storyline to tell. Like, I got field promoted to Ensign, like, how how fuck am I supposed to know how to do this stuff?

Yeah, because- Dispoint to my career. By the time Plan B is unveiled as blow up the damn ship, Jean-Luc. No! No, these emotions there are like defiant. Like fuck yeah, we're gonna take these guys down with us instead of, I couldn't do it, and I feel bad that we're gonna die because of me.

I'm getting all of these guys killed because of me. Right. They do, they have to hedge, right? Like, they build the automatic self-destruct into the way the engine is being repaired. Like, they can't like do the riker and Picard standing over the engineering table, setting self-destruct scene because the gem had are there. So what they do is kind

of rig the ship to blow once it passes warp one. And then they continue the ruse that they're repairing the engine. Well well while trying to trick the gem hadar into thinking that everything's going great. I thought for a moment that it would have been fun to have the plan a little more speed like like once they go to warp they can't ever come out of warp, because once they do, the de-explodes, like that would make the little D kind of an interesting bomb, right?

Like they drive the little D all the way back home. Bomb undefiant. Yeah. Yeah, you get Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day off in there. Maybe he's worth tourist, but it's not like I can hide it. He could have some strong feelings about these matters. Shoot the hostage. What do you do?

I deeply not see you know that. In the circuit board, O'Brien and Bashir are starting to suffer from hypoxia because there's just not that much air. I wasn't sure if I missed something about why they couldn't beam a second bubble of air into this room. They cut back to DAX and she's like, we're all out of compressed air. I'm over here walking on sunshine, guys. The chief loves compressed air and so do I. Yeah, but and I thought like the chief knows how to do this at human scale, but he's looking at everything from one centimeter high and is a little lost. And the doctor, I thought it was cool that the doctor is like helping him through this

from just a practical standpoint, but the doctors, like despite being a super brain, doesn't actually know anything about engineering. So I just thought that that was like well written that like, but sheers is a genius and is a genius and can like do hard math problems in his head on the fly, but it's not, doesn't know what like the 546 stroke delta

isolinear chip does. And I really like that his solution to the problem is very medical. Like he's got to fix O'Brien. And the way that he manages to do that is to get O'Brien in a place where he can reconcile the situation. Like, right, like close your eyes

and do it from memory. Like where is this relative to this other thing? Yeah. Yeah. It feels like something, it feels like good therapy. What what Bashir is doing. and do it from memory, like where is this relative to this other thing? Yeah, yeah. It feels like something, it feels like good therapy. What, what be sure is doing? In your worst dreams, a duck flies off with your penis. So they manage to get this thing rewired.

They do their little tack weld on the, on the optronic circuit that they reconnect. And we cut down to engineering and Nog is very thrilled to discover that whatever he's done has in fact rewired the command code to engineering. He's happy to take the credit for a thing he doesn't understand. I'm good. Come with me. I think a lot of people early in their career have had things like that happen.

Yeah, I feel that. I see you, Nag. early in their career have had things like that happen. Yeah, I feel that. I see you, Nog. Yeah, for example, two people early in their podcasting career, don't know why they've achieved any success. I don't know how but I released the command codes. This is a fun bit of business here because like, there's the celebratory, like the subdued celebration of a Nog going, yes, I did it.

And also the crew getting gathered together in order to be berated by Kudakatan. So the first and the second are down in engineering. And that's that news is transmitted to O'Brien and Bashir when they get back aboard the Rubicon by DAX. And so they realized that the ship is about to go to work pretty soon. And so they're going to need to start helping these dudes. And so they realized that the ship is about to go to warp pretty soon. And so they're going to need to start helping these dudes. And there's some debate, right? Like like, extanner access. Like these guys were not on the up and up when they were doing these repairs. We need to like make sure that they did the repairs that they claim and make sure that this

system isn't rigged to blow. And Kudakitan has not learned a thing in this experience. And it's like, fuck that, let's fucking get this thing going. It's great, it's so heubristic and totally in keeping with what we know about him. Kudakitan has the sheer fucking heubrist to get the ship going. Yeah, but this is a problem, because we're rigged to blow as soon as they go to warp. So he's like about to walk off the

out of engineering when he opens the door and in rushes the The little ship and we get a great fire fight where it is the Rubicon shooting miniature photon torpedoes at Gemma are well, you know, warf is breaking next. Nog is getting thrown over panels like just a real fun Star Trek flight here. I mean, we famously don't do any research on this show. So I'm sure this information exists somewhere,

but I wonder what the yield is on a torpedo, you know, given like given the relative shrunkenness of a person, like take the normal yield and shrink that down by the same ratio, I wonder how strong those are. I wonder, because this is definitely something that has been dealt with in other sci-fi franchises, like Ant-Man plays with this idea. It's like the spaces between subatomic particles are being shrunk

and that's how you're getting smaller, but that means you have the same mass and the same force as you would at your current size. And it would be really fun to see a gem at our get hit by a phototop to torpedo and just like just fucking get turned into cat food. Like there is never a moment before they fire torpedoes where DAX is like, hold on a second. I mean, if we shoot this thing, set the phasers to the lowest possible yield and I cannot stress this enough, it has to be the lowest. And it's still just like punching hole through the the gem had are and the hull of the ship and in one shot. After the episode, DAX is just haunted by what she's done. I've got the thousand-year-old stare of somebody who can't unsee what they saw.

Can currently with this a Star Trek fight breaks out in engineering and Wolf breaks a guy's neck. Yeah. Well, we still never seen anyone rip the hose out of the out of a gem at our neck. God, it was right. It was right there. There was going to be the scene where it happened. I thought so too. I thought for sure. Maybe we'll get it someday. Yeah. Anyways, uh, Xtanner Axe has a, uh, a very Ironical death scene where he, uh, is explaining that the, uh, that Qdack attend didn't have, have to

listen to anything Xtanner Axe said because, uh, obedience is, uh, is victory and victory is dot, dot, dot dot dot. I love that it's basically a, eh, what are you gonna do? I mean, Jim Hedars are gonna Jim Hedars. He's the scorpion that stung the frog on his way across the river, right?

That's exactly it, yeah. You really want to do this? Here, now, okay, okay, let's do it. In the aftermath of this fight, the runabout Flies up to Worf so that DAX can can blow him a kiss through the window Just one of my favorite shots in the episode Worf squint's in there to make sure she's not a kid

She looks full grown, but tiny It's like oh shit. I going to have to write that poem. Yeah. And the button on the episode is set in Quartz bar so that Odo and Quark can have parts in the episode. We are deprived of the normal sizeification process. That is covered in a captain's log and then, and then Dax is asking Wurf to hear the poem. He's very sensitive about it,

but it turns out Wurf is just doing bits with the poem. comes up to O'Brien and Bashir and says that they look a little bit a little bit on the short side to him. And then court comes up and agrees. And they've got to rush off to to 6 Bay. It is a real end of an 18 episode type of type of tone here at the end. Real fun. I did I did like worst starting to read. There once was a runabout from NENTucket. Hahaha. Dex is like, I guess it is after hours and we are in the bar. Hahaha. Did you like the episode Adam?

Yeah, I did. And I think the reason why is because we're told right up front how to watch it. Like I think Akira doesn't laugh in the face of this concept. I think the true extent to its silliness comes a little later than it should and it might spoil the broth of this thing, right? But by front loading it with that laughter, we're sort of trained into being like, all right, this is cool and fun whatever but As much as I did enjoy it, I think there was a like I know this is a light episode

But there are opportunities not taken here to ratchet up the tension the conflict and the danger and at no point were those choices ever made so I mean maybe that was just in keeping with the whole vibe. Like, why? Why later cake this thing when we can just keep it simple? So I did like it, but it made me, this was a fun episode for us because I think you and I were taking those exits off of the story and exploring all the little areas that are undertaken. It's an interesting season because we started with that crazy, long arc about the Dominion War.

And we have had bottle after bottle after bottle that have been pretty light. Like there have been like one or two heavy episode since then, but we're like, we're like past the halfway point on the season now. And, and I'd say that on balance season six is mostly joky fun episodes at this point, which I did not expect when we started the season. No, me neither. Yeah. I mean, it makes me wonder how we're going to end here. Yeah. Very interesting. Well, one thing I never wonder about is whether or not we have any priority one messages. Should we go check those out? Let's do that.

Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on. A supplement on? A supplement. A supplement. Yes, extra. How do you interest alone? Could be enough to buy this ship! Hi, and we've got a couple of priority one messages here. The first one is from Morn, and it's two captains.

It goes like this. If my calculations are correct, you will receive this letter immediately after you saw who mourns for mourn. First, let me assure you that I am alive and well. I've been living silently these past four months in the year 2020. Lockdown sucks. So I set myself up as a blacksmith, and I've gotten quite adapted using my mourn hammer. I mean, is that a... Master patient joke? Boy, yeah, I think it is Adam.

I don't think Morn is pounding rivets. I think he's pounding something else. Get a tell you, my pounding rivet rate has gone way down since quarantine began. Oh yeah. way down since quarantine began. Oh yeah. When probably gonna get up fivefold. We're definitely dealing with this trauma differently. Ben, our second priority one message is from Honey Bear

to Stu Buttercup and the message goes like this. Sweet Buttercup. There's no one I would rather spend quarantine within you While you hear me chuckle along with a couple of guys who brighten up the world best wishes to you and to all Wow, thanks honey bear quarantine messages man. That's what we're getting. I think that helps I like that the P1s are coming in fast enough that That Morn couldn't couldn't line it up perfectly to coincide with who mourns for Morn I think but that's on brand for Morn right to like to like miss it by hey a little bit totally on brand But yeah, I've

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here. Things in here don't react well to bullets. I expected that kind of line of dialogue too, but my stars don't care. Fucking idiots about you, Ben. Mine is a nogg for the, the line I am good when the security lockouts get fixed. Oh, no. Just that little fist bump, that was very funny to me.

I laughed out loud. I thought the performance of that line was really great. I mean, it's got to be like, I imagine you get a little protective of your character when you're an actor and to like really sell a line that makes your character look like a fucking fool Has got to feel a little bit like I this is what I think about with Ram all the time right Yeah, like the Ram is like asked to do that a lot and I feel like Nog less so. Nog is a much more sincere character in a lot of ways. And yeah, I just, I thought that that was really funny.

So, yeah. Good to, good ones. Do you want to see what we've got next week on the greatest generation? What do we got coming up next? Episode is season six, episode 15, Honor Among Thieves, an undercover operation turns personal for O'Brien when he befriends his criminal contact.

Are we sure we're talking about O'Brien here? O'Brien has criminal contacts? Apparently so. Is he getting like bootleg Viagra? I feel like this is an episode where O'Brien is wearing a lot of leather jackets. Ooh. It's been a while since I've seen this one, but he's like, he's like hanging out in bars. It's very, um, he's probably like asking the pianist in the corner to play Malota.

All right, Adam. I need to go over to guach.bizslashgame. Where we keep the game of buttholes, the will of the profits. And currently our runabout is on square 55. That is right in between a quirk's bar and looking at each other during. And we could hit that looking at each other during. And we could hit that looking at each other during.

I think that's all we can potentially hit right now. Yeah, that's the death sentence square at this point. Yeah, sure. It takes really high with that square. You're required to learn as you play, role. I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bone. What do you say? Do it. Oh my God. I rolled a one.

Oh, let's get it! It's a looking at each other during, we're looking at each other during today. I know. I guess we'll have to do that again. I'm not coming over, Ben. No. I think that would be... We have to set a good example. Yeah. We must maintain quarantine.

We're quarantining influencers, and we're going to continue to set a good example. Two weeks after that episode drops is the last episode of Greatest Gen. RSVB Ben and Adam. Yeah. They didn't know. They weren't getting any ventilators from their from their listener supporters. We that's I mean we treated the game of buttholes lightly. We didn't know how much power it had. We should not do that.

It's like we are the covenant we're messing with. How do we how do we deal with the fact that we landed on a square that we can't, we're like forbidden by law from doing. Well, because we can't do that, I have a proposition for you in the deep, deep distance on our game board. There's a canar with demar square, which I don't ever call. Never done that. I don't want to call us ever doing that. So how about we do that in honor of a great man, a great Cardassian man.

Much like the sonar computer on the American submarine in red October, going home to geology assessments, we will run home to Drunkassod on our next episode by doing our first ever canar with demar. That's almost exactly what I was going to say, but it's a perfect analogy. So we'll come up with recipes and everything, right? Great. Yeah, let's do it like that. Fun. So next week we will fuck up the show. One thing that fucks up the show in a great way is the

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I said a limit on my phone. I'm not allowed to use it for more than a certain amount of time every day. How about that? That's why you're not returning my texts. I can find you playing jazz or if I want to get a hold of you that much. That's what I'm at. Me and Chuck Bryant riding horses around together. Yeah, that's a good passie right there. Yeah, that's fun.

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