The Greatest Generation - Ep 2: Drunk Shimoda (S1E3)

Episode Date: February 1, 2016

The Enterprise crew gets "space drunk" while young Wesley Crusher's science experiment traps him and Assistant Chief Engineer Shimoda inside Engineering. Will the crew stop boning each other long enou...gh to save the ship? Is the "scarf economy" real? Why hasn't this show been cancelled yet? All these topics, and more, on The Greatest Generation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Welcome to the greatest generation, a Star Trek the next generation podcast by two guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm one of your host Ben Harrison. Hey, I'm the other host, Adam Pranika.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I guess we're pot committed on revealing our identities and, you know, maybe for the best. I still have really mixed feelings about it, to be honest. We're recording all these episodes dark at this point, so... Right, so we still could choose never to release this. Yeah. But uh... It'll just... You have recording a podcast that you don't put out. I mean, like, recording a podcast is already a waste of time.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I guess. I guess I am putting off important paid work to do this. So I guess I've made that choice. Yeah. Yeah. Now we're doing it. We're doing it big time. So this is, this episode is the naked now. It's the second episode, but it's listed as episode three,
Starting point is 00:03:41 because I guess in 1987, if you had an episode that was twice as long as normal that had to be counted as episodes one and two Right and Netflix as it is as episode two though. Yeah, so if you're following along at home using a Netflix or a or another television streaming provider your your Numbering nomenclature might vary. Yeah, it's on Wikipedia as episode three. And I have to imagine Wikipedia has the most official nomenclature as far as that goes.
Starting point is 00:04:16 This is really interesting. Yeah, this is all gonna get cut out. Did you ever see the canonical original series episode that they sort of related to this because I hadn't? And I still have. I watch a lot of the original series, but I'm usually so bored within the first 30 seconds of the beginning of an episode that I immediately start playing with my phone. So it may or may not have theoretically been on a TV that I was in the presence of, but
Starting point is 00:04:50 I don't really have any specific memory of it. Yeah, I mean, the boredom feeling is something I felt pretty acutely as this episode kicked off. I managed to resist the use of my phone though, because I was taking copious notes. Yeah, yeah. If you've got a notebook, somehow that gets easier. Right. You know, your tower defense video game doesn't beckon you quite as much.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So this is officially the sweatiest episode of Star Trek, the next generation. The Enterprise is out looking for a science-facial called the Cholkovsky, I think it's pronounced. Right, you wanna give an alien race a chance to pronounce your ship's name. Go with something that's in Cyrillic. Right. Yeah, so it's a science ship that's studying a collapsing super giant star and they've
Starting point is 00:05:51 kind of gone in Communicato. And the away team discovers, I guess, well, so they're kind of heading toward the ship and they get a last transmission that sounds like a real fun time party is going on on the Chilkovsky. And they said, they're going to have a real blowout and then you hear an explosion. And they find out that they've in fact blown out the hatch. Not only that they have the literal blowout, they had a literal real chill time. Yeah, they did a real chill time,
Starting point is 00:06:30 because the rest of the ship has been turned off and a lot of the heat has been bled into space. This is another scene where the set designer takes full advantage of the fire extinguisher and just hoses down some rooms with that. I wonder if they just had a bunch of phrasum spray paint left over from season one, episode one and they were just like,
Starting point is 00:06:54 you guys gotta script where we can use up the rest of this because we don't want it sitting around taking a space here in the prop department. It's real set design by Costco. They just bought a big pallet of the stuff and decided to put it to use. I mean, you know, it could in fact be that like some sort of snow flocking company
Starting point is 00:07:14 was a heavy investor in the show and sent them to buy a bunch of that stuff. But you gotta believe Rikers in his element too. I mean, he beams over there. It's obviously the leavings of what is a thinly veiled orgy. Yeah. I mean, everybody that's naked conveniently has enough snow on their body to conceal their naughty bits, but.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Right. So anyways, they, uh. It's probably a form of orgy that even Riker hasn't engaged in. Right. So you've got to believe he's curious. Yeah. It definitely hurries back to the enterprise fires up the holiday and gets it going. Um, Riker program one. But uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the full-crumb moment here is when Jority opens up somebody's shower and a, But the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the for the rest of the episode. And how would you describe that sound? It's a lot like a starship door opening or closing. It's kind of a hiss.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It sounded like someone bawling up some plastic wrap to me. Yeah, maybe like a pitch shifted plastic wrap. Yeah. Crumple. And this is like, I feel like that is non-diagetic sound also because like, it happens a whole bunch of times for the rest of the episode. Every time somebody gets infected, you hear it happen.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And it's pretty obvious that they can't hear it. So it's just there for the benefit of the audience. Yeah, I mean, this has happened a couple of times. It's a real, hey, idiot viewer. Try to stay along with us here. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the episode might have been a little bit more fun if they hadn't beaten us over the head with that. Like, if you're like trying to remember, oh yeah, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:18 Jordy touched Yard and then Yard touched data, you know, or whatever. Well, because it was a basic cable syndication, they couldn't show the disease being transmitted sexually, which I'm sure is how it was in the writers room. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this disease takes the form of everybody
Starting point is 00:09:44 who has it being super hot and super drunk. This is the drunkest drunk they could possibly be. It's like an extreme version of being drunk. As Jordy splits from the infirmary, which is already a kind of dubious plot point, because you would imagine that starships would have way better quarantine procedures in place than just like, Hey, did you just come back from a, uh, an away mission with a strange condition? Go ahead and walk out the door of the infirmary. Beverly is the definition of confinement to sick bay
Starting point is 00:10:26 is just on a cot next to an unlocked door. Yeah, yeah, a door that just leads right into the hallway. Oh yeah. And do the rest of the ship. No waiting room in this sick bay. I also thought it was curious that the first thing that a drunk Jordy does is wander into Wesley's room. Yeah, this is maybe a second note of implied pedophilia in this series.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But two for two. Yeah, and Wesley is playing with his tractor beam toy and his John Luke Picard voice imitation toy, both of which he is working on for a science project, I guess. Which are, if you were to conceive of the two most dangerous toys anyone could have on this or any other starship, it would be the device that allows you to mimic the captain and something that can pick up other things and move them away. Right. So with those toys, you know, Wesley who is now three sheets to the wind drunk takes over engineering. And this is an interesting moment because, you know, I always think of Jordy LeForge as being the chief engineer, but he is not yet.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I think that happens in season two. And we have two characters who are like the chief and assistant chief engineers that get kind of hoodwinked out of being on duty by Wesley. The chief engineer is a woman, goes to the bridge and the assistant chief, whose name is Shimoda, I think goes to Sikbe, and Wesley uses his Picard voice imitator to announce that the ship is being taken over, and he uses his tractor beam toy to block
Starting point is 00:12:22 everybody out of the section of engineering that he's hanging out in. And this quickly becomes a problem when Drunk Shemota comes back and starts goofing around with the control chips, the isolaneer chips that control the warp engine as though they are a jenga set. As we progress through the series, I think we need to call crew members doing things that don't really make a lot of sense to us as pulling a drunk shumota. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Absolutely. I guess essentially the rest of the episode is about this star that they are orbiting, getting closer and closer to blowing up, while the crew is more and more incapacitated by this ailment. And every time there's a character that you would need to be on the ball, the illness finds a way
Starting point is 00:13:22 of getting into them. It's such a weird... Like we talked about this for the first episode. Like it's sort of like tracking an album. Tracking an album is like choosing the order of the songs for release. I don't understand how this is episode two. Just like I don't understand how encounter far point was the first episode, it's so weird. It's very weird.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And what I read on Wikipedia is that it is sort of a warmed over redo of a script from the original series. It was like going to be a sequel to an original series episode that would have been in some episode of the original series, but they decided to kind of rewrite it for the next generation. And the fans hated it because it was too similar. Wikipedia floats it as being one of the worst episodes of the show. I really like after finishing this episode, if this were a series that began now,
Starting point is 00:14:32 this show would already be on the chopping block, right? Yeah, yeah, you couldn't as a network justify paying for the next episode of what we have so far watched. Right, it's incredible. I mean, so far, the main special effects on this science fiction show are a fire extinguisher and a spray bottle of fake sweat. Yeah, that said though, I do like this episode a lot more than episode one. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It feels a little bit more star trekky to me. And the, I don't know, there's a couple of moments that actually do kind of have a lasting impact on the series, like data banging Tashi-R, which is. Yeah, that happened early in the series. In my mind, this had happened much later in the series. I didn't know this was episode two. It's a crazy piece of character development to find out that data is packing and is sexually attractive to YAR when she is wasted. I personally think he kind of made a mistake in having sex with her. I think that that's a little bit rapy maybe, but um...
Starting point is 00:15:47 Well, she's also super mean to him when it's over. Yeah. Like, she, yeah. I mean, she was clearly ashamed of what happened. She definitely like initiates, but she is not really in a state of mind to be making decisions about who she's sharing her bed with. I don't care if you are a robot or a normal crew person. I don't think there is any way that you can turn down Sexy Tashiar, who is basically cosplaying as Sexy China Phillips from Wilson Phillips. Yeah. Who has got like that sexy Superman curl under forehead.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like, what does that look about? Yeah, they like, they use some like clear nail polish to, to shellac a curl from her hair down onto her forehead. It's kind of a lot going on there. Yeah. And some pretty complex feelings about that scene. Belly dancer outfit. She did or did not rip off all of the scarves from Troy's apartment.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah. And evidently, everyone leaves the doors to their to their quarters open. Like, yeah, yeah, it's like a urban neighborhood where people don't lock their doors. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the way the future. But if you want to hold onto your scarves, I think you gotta lock your door, at least your closet door. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to imagine, right?
Starting point is 00:17:15 This is like a post-scarcity society. They don't use money. Like, how much of a concept of personal possessions do these people even have? Are we sure that the economy isn't based almost entirely on scarves? I mean, we have this scene, and then we have the scene from the pilot episode where Beverly makes a big deal about, you know, God, the scarf would be so much more amazing if it had a gold pattern on it, and then bam, like it seems like it has a lot more value to her
Starting point is 00:17:42 in that moment. Do you think that Steven Tyler has an economic theory that could translate to to the future somehow? Yeah. Yes, I do. I'm not going to elaborate. I'm just going to say yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah. That's probably where we're at. So data banks, uh, y'all, at some point Picard gets on the view screen with Wesley and kind of makes an effort to talk Wesley out of stealing the ship. And it's a pretty funny moment and it made me think of your point that we haven't seen anything to make us not believe Picard is a pedophile. Right. It's the kind of...
Starting point is 00:18:29 Pedophile, it's like proven not pedophile. That's what my position is at Picard. Yeah, well, and the way he talks to Wesley in this scene is like... It's the kind of like condescension that you would, you like do when you think a kid won't realize that you're kind of sending to him. Well, Wesley, that's a very adult bit of reasoning. Yeah, just sort of building him up a little bit to take advantage of him. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You can see that. So, a little bit of a dark moment. Riker and the chief engineer lady are racing to get the force field down so that they can get into the section of engineering and get the ship started up again. The star is getting closer and closer to collapsing and they finally get it down and they realize that all of these isolinear chips that control the whorep engine, I guess, have been pulled out by drunk Shimoda and it's gonna take hours to put them all back in because there's hundreds of them.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Can we get a drunk Shimoda weird alianca vixong, like my Shirona, we got to do that drop in this episode. Oh, yeah. So we, should we just try and like riff a couple of bars. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da And they convince data to make a game of sticking all the chips back in as fast as he can. And this is the first time that we see the data can potentially use super speed to complete a task. And so he plugs the chips in Willie Nilly.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And they realize that they're still a minute away from, they're still gonna be a minute short of getting out of there in time. And drunk, Wesley Crusher figures out a way to reverse the polarity on the tractor beam that they have attached to the Tjolkovsky, push it away thereby using physics to push the enterprise in the opposite direction, giving them just enough time to get the word engine back online.
Starting point is 00:21:14 The enterprise is saved in the nick of time, meanwhile, guess you based on the remedy from the original series episode. And that's a whole B storyline of finding the remedy is pretty funny. It's like, Riker comes back and he's like, gosh, I vaguely remember reading something somewhere about somebody taking a shower in their clothes. Data, why don't you look into that? No surprise that like the bit of trivia has to do with a shower, where Raker's concerned. Yeah, I vaguely remember masturbating to the history of ships named Enterprise.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's like the guy who comes up with acronyms to remember, you know, answers to science tests. He's like, God, I got to remember all this starfully trivia. And if I can only relate it to something sexual, I can pass this test. Just stick in my head. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we find out in this episode that data is way better at Google than anybody on the enterprise. So they save the ship and then there's sort of the moment
Starting point is 00:22:29 at the end where Tashiyaar is super cold the data and they have the sort of water cooler the next day moment where she says like that didn't happen, don't tell anybody about it. Yeah, like, and maybe the one most pronounced example of this show of like speaking directly to their viewer and like what their viewer's sensibilities might be. Like, it's as if Tasha Yar looks directly
Starting point is 00:22:57 to the camera and goes, yeah, nerd guy. Like, you know what this is about? You know what this is like? Like you haven't been turned down in this manner many times before. They did it got friendzoned. Yeah, he did. He did. So I wrote down... One of the things I wrote down on this topic, the episode was what kind of drunk each character is?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Oh, that's fun. Would you like me to go down the list? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, Jordy LaForge, angry drunk. Yeah. Tasha Yarr, lush. Wesley, reckless drunk. Engineer Shimoda is the kind of, I love you, man.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, totally. Troy, lush. Yeah. Dr. love you, man. Yeah, totally. Troy Lush. Yeah. Dr. Crusher Lush. Yeah. Data is a funny drunk. Riker is the only one that seems who he can hold his liquor, I would say.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Do you, like that, that was a big question I had, was like, is Riker able to hold it together after being infected because he just has a baseline level of horniness? I think so, just throughout. He's definitely hot, like he gets sweaty, like everybody else, but he's not losing it. What is the elusive it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And then Picard Lush. So Picard and all of the female characters are mega horny, once they get infected by the alcohol syndrome. And everybody else is all of the other kinds of drugs. So. I don't know. Picard is Picard a lush? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:24:38 The way he like waves to the doctor when she's leaving the bridge after almost getting her boobs out. Oh, yeah. to the doctor when she's leaving the bridge after almost getting her boobs out. Oh yeah, I mean those zip front uniforms are basically made for pulling out the boobs. Yeah, yeah, when she gets it about halfway down, doesn't quite get too sexy time. Picard basically says like, we can't do this here.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Did you hear his beevus and butt headlash during that scene? Yeah, that is probably as out of character as Patrick Stewart gets in the entire series. I want that to be my ringtone. Oh God, would I love to show you? Doctor, there must be a cure, some formula. Ha ha ha ha ha. Similar to the old one. Yeah. This is, I mean, this is the second straight episode where Picard and Beverly demonstrate
Starting point is 00:25:38 some weirdness. I think there are a few things we can assume and then maybe one thing might be far fetched, but like the whole Picard being a pedophile thing, we can't roll it out completely. I mean, they clearly banged. Yeah, I mean... The question is... You gotta wonder whether they banged during her marriage or... Yeah, is that the reason for the shame or the resistance to it?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Are they so resistant because it occurred in the context of an infidelity? Yeah, it's, it's definitely something that's like never fully addressed, but heavily, the bushes heavily beat around, I would say. Sure. And do we have any reason to believe that Wesley is not Picard's son? Hair line, man. Yeah, yeah, I guess that would be it.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And also, I guess Picard's attraction to him. Yeah. That would be, if you know the fact. We don't know quite how his screws are loose, it's actually so. We just know that something's up. God, Suckdisco, this is such a simplistic plot. I can just imagine the writer's room having a whiteboard of just one line plots. What happens if the crew gets
Starting point is 00:27:00 drunk? There's episode two. It's really kind of weak. Yeah, a little bit weak. I mean, I have to say that the control chip reinsertion game is an all-time favorite Star Trek moment of mine. It's something that like, when I think about data, I think about that moment, and I think that this is like a unique episode for that reason, like it has this like an incredibly iconic moment for me. And I also think that that is more iconic no. Okay. Okay. You know, and when Yara turns to data, when she comes back to the bridge and tells him to speak a word of it to no one, that was a genuine laugh line for me.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I thought that was really funny. So, I mean, it's not- I don't know, it's just making me sad. It's making me real sad. You got to think about the fact that you're introspective. Like, like, dated, like, it's not even that he doesn't have an ego is that it's, he just takes everything literally
Starting point is 00:28:19 without thinking about the kind of emotional dimension of it. So, he's getting friend-zoned, but he doesn't even know that that's like a negative place to be. He's like, okay, like up to you. Do you think he was actually infected with the virus or do you think he was sort of being Sammy Jankus about it? I don't know. Yeah, it's real, it's real, you have to invoke a lot of head cannon to get data to be susceptible
Starting point is 00:28:57 to the same illness as the crew. He tries to make the case for it as if he has turned to the camera and is speaking directly to the viewer like hey I've got blood like everyone else. I've got these cores. I Don't I don't know that's pretty squishy logic. I mean you could compare you can compare the ships main computer systems to systems like that Like why wasn't the whole ship infected and super horny for that other ship? Yeah, that would be a pretty epic scene with the enterprise mounting that Solkowski and banging away on it.
Starting point is 00:29:32 What was up with the sun chunk that got thrown out towards the ship? Is that real science? When the star explodes, it's not like a shockwave that they're escaping, it's just like a ball of goo. And what a piece of bad luck that is. Yeah, that it's like right on the right trajectory to hit them.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a radio. Yeah, you think that like, I mean, we know that when the Klingon moon of Praxis blows up and it hits the Excel Sier, it's just a shockwave that fucks them up. So why is it have to be like a-
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's supposed to be all over the place. Maybe they just didn't have it in the budget to do like all that computer rendering. Wouldn't it be less work if it was a wave versus a sun chunk? I don't know. In 1987, it's hard to know what effects were easy to do and what effects were hard to do. Yeah, you want a shock wave effect on a fire extinguisher budget. Yeah, yeah, totally. God, like if I keep thinking about Riker and how Riker deals with the whole situation. Troy lusciously over to him in engineering. I think this is the
Starting point is 00:30:48 first and only time that she's ever called him Bill. Yeah, Bill caught my ear as well. Which is clearly like a pillow talk name. Totally. And he just with ease is able to swing around, pick her up, take her to sick bay bay as if turning her down is just something that comes naturally to him. Even when he's drunk. Like do you think he's looking around at basically orgy ship and going I've seen this I've seen this 10,000 times in the holocaust. Like yeah. Like I'm not even getting a softy at seeing everything that's around you. Like this does not even move the needle for Riker.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Right, he's traveled to areas of sexuality where no man has gone before. Yeah. I will say that Riker's pretty heroic in this episode. And another thing that this episode really exposes for me is that in season one, they sort of had a similar approach with the roles on the ship that they did in the original series, where it's a little bit like everybody's job
Starting point is 00:32:01 can kind of change every episode. Like you've got the doctor, the captain, Riker, and Troy have kind of firm jobs. And I guess you are as a firm job. But like, Jordy doesn't really have a specific job. Data doesn't really have a specific job. Warf doesn't really have a specific job. Like, you see him switching sides in the bridge all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Like, data is on the right side of the bridge at the beginning of the episode, and then he's on the left side. And it's like, is he an officer, is he a con, or is it like, doesn't really fucking matter at all? Like, they like had not really thought through who any of these characters were to the ship. Right, I mean, I think you could say they really misused data, you know, for his entire career. Right. You can make a strong argument that he shouldn't even be on a ship. I think you could say they really misused data, you know, for his entire career. You can make a strong argument that he shouldn't even be on a ship. Like he should be building it.
Starting point is 00:32:50 He's very special. Yeah. But there, yeah. And instead he's off fucking Tasha Yare. He's doing what we wish we were all doing. Right. That China Phillips look. Geez.
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Starting point is 00:34:41 It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters. So it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end. So same like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh no Ross and Kerry, available on MaximumFun and Outdoor. Good. Good. Good. Come on, Craigage and July. And then I'll get a guess. Well, what's up next for the crew, the Starship Enterprise? And by that, you mean the next episode? Yeah. That's like it's called Code of Enterprise. And by that you mean the next episode? Yeah, it's like it's called
Starting point is 00:35:27 Code of Honor. I honestly, I don't remember much from this first season. If I, if you would ask me before watching at what point the whole Enterprise gets drunk episode happens, I would have said like in a couple of seasons. Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah, but I think YAR, I mean spoiler, but YAR eats it at some point in season one, I think. Oh, that's right. She gets taken down by... The Pylopoo Monster. Right. Another blue ribbon showing from the costume
Starting point is 00:36:04 and set design department. Look guys, we have this big oil slick in the back of our sound stage, like maybe we could use it for something. Yeah. Yeah. Let's address that later I guess. When the leader of an alien culture takes a romantic interest in lieutenant Yarr, he claims her for his own, to the dismay of his own wife, who in turn challenges Tasha in a fight to the death. I think one funny thing about this episode is its reception, which is being described as not as overly racist as I recalled.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I saw it see- from the Univ. Club. That actually might be an improvement based on the two episodes we've seen already. How well do you remember this episode? Not at all. How does data feel about that? I think I remember it. I feel like there's a weird jungle gym structure that they have to fight in and around and like maybe like poison daggers get get used in this episode Yeah, do you want to invoke your veto or do you want to see another Another episode that implies sexuality with Tashi are
Starting point is 00:37:22 Well the thing is, like, these seasons are like 28 episodes long, right? Yeah, there's a lot of episodes. So I feel like using it. So if you use it now, you could be coming off half-cocked. Right, that's definitely not what I or Commander Riker would think to do. I think I'm going to save my V2. I think I am too. I kind of
Starting point is 00:37:49 remember liking this episode but I'm ready to be disappointed. You would. You've liked two straight terrible episodes so far. I've liked neither. So sorry Adam. This has been a terrible experience for me. Yeah. Well at least you get to make a podcast with your buddy Ben. That's part. Tune in next week for another exciting episode of The Greatest Generation. I've been Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica.
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