The Greatest Generation - Ethnicity Band-Aid (TNG S1E4)

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

When Ligon II has a rare vaccine and the Federation needs it bad, Picard welcomes Luton aboard only for him to abduct Lt. Yar with a side hug. But after she’s challenged to a dual by the leader’s first wife, her success in combat topples his house of cards. Is there an aspect of Ligonian culture that we kind of agree with? Which uncle-related landmine did we not manage to avoid? What’s the opposite of Alien vs Predator? It’s the episode that’s willing to defend itself.Support the production of our shows Members get benefits including bonus episodes and an ad-free experienceSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!The Greatest Generation is hosted by Adam Pranica and Benjamin Ahr Harrison The show is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Instagram | BlueskyAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.socialSupport the production of The Greatest Generation Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Greatest.com. Here's to the finest crew in Stoffling. Engage. Welcome to the Greatest Generation, the next generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison. Ben, we used to play a game on this show.

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and chose to be the one against the episode, thus making you have to be for it. And there are a lot of things about the game that made the episodes more fun and more challenging. This is maybe the purest expression of really missing that game. That was a good game. It would have been...

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I can't wait to get into your real feelings on this one. I'm sure the FODs can't either. Let's go and get into it then. It's everybody's favorite episode of Star Trek The Next Generation, Adam. And a great reason to watch the episode again. I'm glad we're giving people that reason here. This should be an interesting experience. Agreed.

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It is season one of Star Trek, the next generation. It's episode four. It's called Code of Honor. Ligon 2, Ligon 2, pronounced a couple of different ways in the episode. They've got a rare vaccine. The entrepreneur has pulled up into Geosync with the hopes of opening treaty negotiations because they have a very sick colony world. And these guys are the only outfit in town.

with the vaccine for it. I'm just going to ask the question right away, right up top. Do you think this is the favorite episode or the least favorite episode to RFK Jr.? I feel like the contradictions at play here? I don't know where he would land on an opinion. You know, what do you have to understand about the, like, oh, and people? I don't know. I don't want to even characterize what he would say about Ligonians, honestly. It feels gross. I mean, I think that the episode takes as a given that vaccines are a good invention that...

They're worth fighting for. That are worth fighting for, which is, you know, I think the last time we reviewed this episode, that didn't seem nearly as controversial a topic. Sure. But there you go. one really funny thing about this episode to me is that Starfleet's orders are to go to here and get it. Suggesting that like this isn't first contact with the Ligonians, not at all. Like these people are known to Starfleet and Starfleet says absolutely nothing about this place or the people who live there. So you got to assume everything's cool, right? There's some implications that they've prepared a little bit.

Like we go down to the cargo bay where YAR is waiting for them. And we learn that the Ligonians don't want to use the Federation's transporters. They want to use their own transporters. And they're coming to greet us. We know a little bit about them. We know that they have a highly hierarchical society and that they're a very close relatives of ours as far as being humanoids. Ligonians. They're actually just like us.

What we don't get is a Larry David-style react by Captain Picard here when it is revealed that all of them are black. Every single one of them. And I did a little research about this episode, Ben. This wasn't supposed to be that way. Originally, the race involved in this vaccine business were known as Helsians, and nothing specific about their racial makeup was a part of it at all. Turns out, this is a decision made by episode director Russ Mayberry, changing the entire cast of this species into black folks, giving it a tribal Africa theme, and then getting fired off of the production mid-filming by Gene Roddenberry himself.

Shout out to the great bird of the galaxy for that decision. Too long of a leash or too short of a leash? What I wasn't able to find out was how far into production they got before he was fired. But I got to presume far enough. I know that this is a television show and therefore not filmed in order, but the later into the episode, the more excuses they seem to be coming up with to have Jordy foregrounded in scenes. Even scenes where he wasn't talking,

like he'd be like at a computer in the foreground people in the background are talking. And I kind of felt like they were trying to put an ethnicity band-aid on this in a way. It's unfortunate in a lot of ways that Jordy has to bear that burden. But one aspect to this that I really felt was missing was Wharf.

Not in the episode. Not only because Michael Doran is a black actor, but because the Klingon culture is, you could describe, as very traditional and tribal in a way that I feel like would give some cover, some useful cover to a lot of the decisions made here. Or give an interesting perspective on it that might surprise or something. Yeah.

Yeah, there's like one moment where I thought maybe he was supposed to be talking to Riker on the radio, but it also didn't really sound like Worf so much as just Michael Doord and like talking. So I don't know what that was. but these guys beam up using their own transporter, and they roll out a literal carpet for their boss, Luton, who beams up after his detail and his vizier beam up. This is going to be a controversial statement, and I really hope it isn't clipped and used out of context.

But I don't feel like... Hey, Rob, just start the Instagram right here. But there are some parts of... the Ligolians that I actually agree with. One of them is that wouldn't you rather use your own transporter in most situations? Absolutely.

It's like when you get off an airplane. I don't always want to pay to park my car at an airport, but I always appreciate being in my car on the way home from the airport rather than a weird smelly taxi or Uber or whatever. You always prefer your own brand. Picard introduces the assembled officers, and

Luton is very surprised by Lieutenant Yarr being his chief of security. A woman? Yes, Luton, that is her expertise. This is one of the ways in which their culture is very different. He cannot imagine a woman having this job. If I were just getting into Star Trek the next generation here, I might be surprised at what Yard does, you know, getting between Hagan and the captain

and like throwing a guy around in his defense. But like, you got to remember, she popped off exactly like this in the pilot episode and got frozen for it. Yeah. Does not get frozen here, but yeah, Hagan has the little box with the sample

of the vaccine and is extremely rude to her, tries to push her aside and she's like, nope, fuck that and flips him on his back. And this is, again, terribly impressive to Lutane. Troy suggests to the captain

that no apology be made for this breach in protocol. It's one of the delegates being absolutely pummeled by their chief of security. I love that Troy tells Picard this and not YAR because I don't feel like YAR would have. Why did you even bring it up? Easiest decision I ever made. It sure seems like this show right off the gate is cultivating an air of we must protect our captain. This is a new Star Trek era where the captain's protected at all costs, and everyone's on the same page with that. This is not like Kirk going on every mission.

It is not. Instead, Picard invites the Ligonians to some entertainment, and everybody clears out of the cargo bay, and Lieutenant Hagon stay behind and have a little hushed conversation. Hagon is like, I know I fucked up big time. I'm trying to push that skinny white girl out of the way. And Lutan is like, no, like this is actually fucking perfect. I think out of fairness, I'm going to have to ask you to describe Luton's wife as a skinny black girl, okay? Just got to keep it fair. Like equal time.

Yeah. After the theme, in the observation lounge, there's a great big McLaughlin group. Issue one. Where Picard makes a really flashy show about giving the Ligonians a game. gift while pronouncing the word dynasty. Ben, I mispronounce words all the time, but why did he say it like that? I've only ever used that word as a portmanteau for when dinner is nasty. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's dinner. Dinistry. I could see that. I'm sure that's a big hit. I thought this gift would come into play later, like, as a mealy weapon of some kind. The Likonians don't even

touch the thing. I feel like it's just sitting there on the desk. It is a gesture of goodwill and respect that is pretty meaningless to them. A most thoughtful gift, we are pleased. Lutant is like, you know, I'm all about respect. So if you guys respect us and our customs, which are the correct customs, then we will respect you. And round of applause for this. This is a the only non-end of a performance applause I can think of in Star Trek.

Picard leads it too. You got a clap of Picard's clapping. Lutant does this thing where he dismisses his guard, so it's just him and Hagon. I kind of like that move. You can tell he's more comfortable now. I don't need these guys.

I like that whenever the camera finds Troy in the Observation Lounge during all of this applauding and dismissing of the security detail. Troy is so stressed out. She does not like the vibes in here. I mean, I'd be nervous, too, if I were getting a hit off of Lutane,

and all he wants to do is go to the holodeck with Tasha Yarr. We have heard how they are used to train your officers. And use for many other things, too. This isn't an orthodox pairing, this whole YAR being a tour guide around the ship, but she's game for this,

and off to the holodeck they go. They put an Akito program on, and Yarr gets on her ghee and demonstrates this, like, you know, simulated Akito opponent. And the Ligonians are a little bit weirded out by the idea of a soulless man being in the room with the... And she's like, no, no, no, it's just a game. Like, it's just an image.

But we can make it, like, knock you across the room. So it's good for training, because the computer gets better as you get better. I feel like Holladeck React has got to be a thing when first timers see it. And the belief that you're creating life in there seems totally sensible for a person to have. Like they have transporters, which feel like an adjacent technology to Holladec, but they don't have this. What's the worst thing Yard could do in this situation, like creating Luton in Holladick form? Maybe the worst thing is ball smashing Hagon another time in front of his boss.

Yeah. She flips him on his back again. They are just gobsmacked. Thank you, Lieutenant. How very enlightening. Back they go to Cargo one to say their goodbyes. And Lieutenant is just glad-handing and being real casual about how much he enjoyed his visit and how much in particular he enjoyed getting to meet Yarr,

all is a pretext for suddenly throwing his arms around her and all of the delegation with Yard transporting away very suddenly. I mean, there was a time where, like, side-hugging in a work environment was permitted, but that's a real slippery slope now, and you can tell why. Because when Lutan side-hugs Yard, that's the pretense for the beam out. Yeah. This is like this episode is when they started changing all the employee training documentaries, you know. I certainly learned a thing.

It's why we added that Uxbridge Shimoda policy. No sidehugs. No sidehugs. No way. So Picard calls Red Alert and goes right up to the bridge and basically starts firing torpedoes. I mean, like, I guess Riker does say like just so you know, the torpedoes are ready when he comes onto the bridge. And so he shoots a bunch into orbit and has. as them explode kind of in the skies over this planet to demonstrate that they have some pretty

scary weapons aboard and they are not pleased about what the Ligonians have done. And Picard keeps hailing and threatening and it's just dead air on the other side. Yeah, it's not clear at all whether or not Lutana's listening and not saying anything or not getting the message at all here. So Picard surveys the bridge on what they think is going on and maybe what they should do. And Troy seems to think that Yarr won't be hurt because there's some sort of professional ambition involved with Lutan's decision. And data is like, well, I mean, if we do nothing, that's actually good because patience

is something that these people really respect and all their interactions. And Riker's like, okay, well, if that's the case, why don't we just lay back in the cut and wait. And so they do. I did really like Troy going like, have you noticed that Yar is super duper bad? Maybe that's why he took her. Well, Kenantiar is physically very attractive. Picard's log tells us right after this.

Like, they're talking about waiting, and you're like, okay, that's sensible. Let's just be patient. I didn't know patience would mean an entire day later. Because Picard's log tells us that it's a day later now, and they still haven't heard anything from Lutane. but they do think their sensors have picked up where Lutan's command center might be.

Speaking of patience, the doctor comes to the bridge to haul Picard into his ready room and yell at him about why they are waiting when this vaccine is needed so urgently. Like people on this colony planet that they're going to are dying, and we can't just replicate this vaccine. It doesn't work that way. You've got to get it from these guys.

She really throws a bunch of shit in Picard's face about how many dead bodies she's seen. You've never had to watch a patient die from this disease. That's true. Like Picard hasn't seen the most important dead body in either of their lives. Even going so far as to like flying a shuttle with that body to the Crusher residents,

to then present it to the Crusher family? Speaking of bodies that maybe Picard wish would be dead. What? Oh. Yes. All right. She tells him about her son Wesley's keen interest in starship operations and how much he'd like to come check out the bridge.

In regards like, well, yeah, I mean, maybe sometime, but he's not here right now. And she's like, well, he's waiting in the elevator, actually. This is the fucking worst to be asked a favor like this. Like, while Wesley's in the car. Like, oh, you just dropped by, Bev? That's neat. What's going on? My kid's in the car. It's really hot. Hot in the car right now, Captain. It felt to me like when I was a kid and like my mom would be on the phone with an elderly relative that I'd met one time 10 years ago.

And she'd be like, Ben, you want to talk to uncle, you know, uncle whatever? No. I feel that so deeply. That is such an acute level of cringe that I think a lot of folks our age feel. Why did our parents do that? you're in the worst possible position because the other person can hear the room so you have to say yes you know what I hate to defend it but I'm going to try in their defense

is it not a good skill to hone to have someone practice talking to someone that they don't know in a like just social setting like can you shoot the shit with Uncle Jim it's a good skill to hone

but at what cost like Uncle Jim we don't talk to him that much as, like, it's going to be hurtful to him to hear that other people of the household are like, nope, don't need to talk to that asshole. I'm going outside. I think a lot of FODs will admire the landmine I tipped over when the naming wheel spun in my head and like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, like, all these names. And then, like, it's going to be a three-letter name. And then Tom spun around to the arrow and then, like, clicked over in its gym. Oh, thank God. Okay.

Woo! So Picard walks out of his cabin. Oh, fuck! Oh, fuck. I mean, his ready room and up to the bridge and summons out the boy. Wesley, the boy. Why don't you sit at office next to Lieutenant Lafort? Sit down over there, young man.

I love the, uh, Riker, like, coming back onto the bridge as this is happening and going like, sorry, Captain, I'll get rid of him. My boot is going to be in his ass before you know it. And Picard's like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm inviting him. I am with Jordy taking umbrage with this. This felt so much like working in an office where the boss's kid comes by to sell Girl Scout cookies. Like, what am I supposed to do here?

Like, I got to work with Wesley Crusher now? God damn. It's not fair. This is a life-threatening situation also, right? Like, we can agree that YAR is in some trouble, and yet Wesley is being put at a bridge station with some possible consequences. Fortunately, they kind of go out of Wesley's earshot to have the next conversation, and this is where data describes this counting coup theory that the Ligonians are doing this just for kind of ritualistic honor and to show their bravery. Like this is Lutans' efforts to bring glory upon his house, and Yarrar. Because she was the chief of security represented the riskiest prize.

So this was a big deal for him. And finally, he answers the phone. He calls back. And he's like, what are you calling about? I can't imagine what this could be in reference to. You're right. His attitude is so weird because isn't this what you want, Captain McCart? Don't you want the hostage taker to be in communication?

with you on some level so that you can negotiate? They put it on mute and Troy and Riker and Dater are all on team, like, just apologize and beg for her back. Like, just like, you don't need to save face. You don't need to be the big man here. Just be really polite and ask. And Picard takes this advice and asks, and that's good enough for an invite to the surface. The idea that Picard would lead the Dustbuster Club

goes against Riker's whole deal about protecting the captain's life and his duty to both please that booty and do that. But Dato and Troy make the case that actually Picard is going to be very safe under the circumstances because it's also part of the Ligonian Code of Honor to never harm the commanding officer in a visit like this. So Riker, knowing this is like, okay, cool,

I'll stay up here. I loved Brakes' take when he says the thing about if Picard gets in any kind of trouble down there, he's going to go on report. It is so fucking charming when he says that. I mean, it's easy to report a dead man, I guess. On the surface, Picard and Troy beam down, and they are greeted by Lou Tannagra. and his first one named Yerina. So Lutane has a type, women with YAR in their name. You don't have to change a lot of the paperwork if there are initials involved.

Yeah. Is he into pirate play? Is that what's going on with Lutane? That would explain the outfit, right? Like a Corsair kind of a vibe. I don't blame Picard from wanting to see Yarr immediately. Proof of life seems pretty important right now. Yeah.

There is initially some resistance to that. because it is so impolite to even ask. But finally, Lutin agrees, as long as Picard is okay with her return being arranged that night at some non-specific festival gathering that we don't really get any more information about. And Picard, with only this amount of information, agrees to those terms. It seems like Luton wants to humiliate Picard in a little bit more public of an environment than a FaceTime. So he's gathering all of the people, I guess, that he needs to impress. And he has them bring Yarr out.

And I love that the guard that brings her out has clearly been beaten to a pulp at least once by her. Her hair's a little must-up, but she's none the worse for where. And we cut to the evening where this big party is happening. And this scene introduced something that. A connection that I have not made before, which is my banging sticks together theory of shitty episodes. Because are these sticks not the same as the Klon Pigs in the Deep Space 9 episode, Al-a-Morraine count two or whatever? Yeah, they are very similar. And the sounds, too.

I mean, just listen to them. What are we talking about here? I mean, keen-eared F-O-Ds will tell you that, the sounds from this episode are actually the ones that we use and the sound effect that we use during the game segment on our shows for so long.

You didn't know that, Ben, did you? It's great to hear. There's kind of a lot of code of honor threaded through the hundreds of episodes we've made. Yeah. Like you learn that something you've been eating is made out of like grubs or something. It's puree of tube grubs.

Oh, no, bro. When Yara's let out and she sits next to Lutane, I'm feeling pretty good here, right? Okay, it seems like there's going to be a prisoner exchange or whatever. Picard sees this and definitely interprets this as the conclusion of whatever formal arrangement they have. Yeah, it's the humiliation for hostages trade that has become so customary. Yeah, their business here can be done, right? Lieutenant tells Picard

he's done a great job with the politeness and the formality and so forth and he would love to give him the vaccine but Yar we have to hold on to this one and everyone gasps I find that I cannot part with her especially Yarina

this comes as a huge surprise to her Yarina is a character that has not had anything to do up until now and yet I think is one of the more interesting characters in the episode because this is a society that sort of assumes that she is just going to be a pushover

and isn't going to like have any thoughts about the things that the man in her life is doing? And she's like, fuck that. I will kill that bitch. Natasha Yarr, I challenge you. A struggle to the death. No. Picard's like, no.

No, that's not happening. and that pisses Luton off. And he's like, that's not respecting our customs. That is our custom and you just disrespected it. No vaccine? No treaty. You get nothing. I actually really like the tension between Picard's thinking that this is an act of war

and Lutane correcting him and saying it's an act of love. Like, I thought that was a fascinating conflict between them. Yeah. And emblematic of just how little they understand each other. We start to have Rikers logs. in this episode. It's just like, hey, yeah, so we're still up here, trying to scan, I guess.

Seems like things aren't going great on the planet, but what are you going to do? I don't have much to do. I'm thinking about manually separating the saucer again, like getting in some practice. You don't get as good as I am at that without a lot of reps. Going back and forth, you can actually get the ship to completion. A fairly routine maneuver, but you'll handle it.

quite well. Thank you, sir. Unlike on to, Yard prepares for the fight by doing some light stretching. You're going to want to do that before any physical activity. Got to stay limber. Picard rolls in and Troy, too. And I don't love the vibes here because Picard and Troy make it pretty clear that all this might be her fault. Tell me what you know about this.

Nothing, sir. Troy fully lays a verbal trap for Yard, in which Yard. in which Yarr, like, agrees. Like, I mean, Lutan is very sexually appealing to me, but putting that aside, I would never, hey, wait a minute. There's a lot about lady friendships that I wouldn't understand, couldn't understand,

and shouldn't understand. I don't understand. What this told me was that Troy was not ready to forgive for the whole borrowing of the scarves thing that Tasha Yard did in the last episode. You do not just waltz into a woman's closet and borrow her clothes without asking first. Yeah, you fucked up, Yarr. Being drunk was no excuse.

Yeah. And now you're losing at the 3D chess of your friendship with Troy. Yeah, she didn't know that was a life-threatening choice she made back then. So there is some prime directive discussion here about intervening and the culture that they're interacting with. It's a little unclear how it applies because, like, these guys have transporters, which sort of makes me think they must, I mean, they're contacted, like they're aware of the Federation. Like, a little hard to know exactly what the contours of that problem are. Weren't you surprised that also the prime directive was not defined or described here in any detailed way, given what I would assume is an audience of a not insignificant amount of folks not really familiar with Star Trek, maybe, just trying this one on for size.

As far as I can tell, it is an undefined thing as of this moment. Crusher comes to Riker and tells him that this is starting to get pretty, pretty dire on the styris colony. So we got to figure this vaccine thing out. And they're throwing out numbers of deaths. Numbers of deaths that, I mean, now that we're kind of on the other side of the COVID lockdown, We know are irrelevant and will not impact policy or anything. But to Crusher, it seems important. Yeah.

Dr. Crusher, at no point, I want to say, in her desire to get the vaccine mentions Tasha Yard at all, which I thought would make for a very convenient, like, needs of the many, needs of the few, direct line. Especially since Crusher just had that, I never got the calluses. of seeing my patients die that some doctors develop. I'm not saying that wouldn't be too obvious because obviously it would be obvious. But I also feel like it should be obvious.

Yeah. And put that way for people to understand. Because Reiker wasn't in that conversation. No. You know? Yeah. Anyways, Yard does want to do this so that they can get the Vax.

Like, she cites that as her motivation. And Picard's like, okay, I guess I'll go talk to him and tell them it's on. Troy reassures, card about this too, right? Because there's a little bit of waffling, but Troy's like, actually I've looked at the sports book and Yarr's actually like a really heavy favorite. I'm actually betting on her heavily. The odds are very good. She defeat Lutan's wife easily. So like go forth and make it happen so I can get paid. Yeah. I'm in for 20. Not a lot, but you know,

if you bet heavily, you get paid heavily-ish. Can we clip that bit of dialogue that you had? been for our upcoming sports gambling commercials that I'm sure are threaded through every episode now. The first duty of every starbeat officer is to the truth, scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth. Yeah. Incredible. So Picard is talking to Luton and Hagan is there and it kind of slips out. Like, Lutant is talking about, oh, I'm only doing this because I love Tasha Yarr so much.

It is genuine love that motivated me to do this. Sort of slips out that Lutin is a leader of a planet, house of card style. Like, he does not have any money or land of his own. He only has political power. And so his alliance with Yarina maybe has, like, stopped being useful for further advancement. And this is a pure advancement play. Like he loves Tashiyar. She's beautiful.

And that's all you need for that. But also, he could become more powerful if he ditched Yarina. It's a sort of whoever loses, he wins. Yeah. Kind of the opposite of Alien versus Predator. It's a great bet. I mean, he should go to the sports book with Deanna Troy, honestly, to maybe hedge the bet a little bit. Indeed.

So upon hearing all this, Picard tells him that he will order Yard to five. and cheers to that, buddy. Get a little interstitial vignette about Jordy shaving with a razor that's not the good razor, but it's his razor and data trying to process the human equation that that indicates. This is, I will say, the worst part of this episode, Ben. Now, see, that's funny. because I can tell what the writers are trying to do. They're trying to establish the idea of data wanting to understand humans better in order to impersonate them better even.

You know, like he does not understand why Jordy is okay with the imperfect, except the representation. The analogy for this is a sharp razor device used for trimming your face. Like, my problem with it is, like, everyone prefers the sharp razor. There is absolutely no reason to settle for anything less than razor sharp. The idea that Jordy has a preference for, like, I don't know, it misses some spots. And maybe it nicks me in some areas, but, like, it's the one I like. I'm a human. I'm just weird that way.

Makes no sense. I fucking love having razor bumps, dude. It needs to be anything else for this to be the example. example used of imperfectly perfect human opinions. Did not get Data's joke here, but we kind of breeze past it, and they get summoned to the surface so that they can come down and do some sort of background analysis on the weapons and combat abilities of Wagonians so that Tasha can be prepared with some intel for this thing. There's a moment here where Picard talks about the Prime Directive.

as much as it's ever discussed in this episode. And how crazy it is that they grew out of imposing their ancient belief system on other people. Instead, they've graduated to a higher plane been on having an inflexible belief system imposed on themselves. They're much better off now. Riker logs again. The plan is to beam y'r out if she's in any real danger. Like, that's what the, they're trying to have a contingency here.

And there's an amazing scene down on the planet, which kind of felt like the WWE, like, trash-talking cut, like Yari and Yerina kind of get together to dog each other out and get hyped for the fight. Yeah, the cut the promo scene is really good here. I think you should know that there is no physical training anywhere that matches Starfleet. The truth. is I will kill you if I can, and believe me I can. Good job by them. You're going to sell the pay-per-view purchases with something like this.

Much like Lutan not being able to wrap his mind around the idea that Starfleet might have different customs than he does, Yarina cannot wrap her mind around Yarr, not being madly in love with Lutant the way she is. This is such a conversational trap. I feel like I've seen this happen in real life between people. Like, you're just, you're just after my person, aren't you? And the defense quite naturally is like, I'm not even attracted to them. And the other person's like, what the fuck?

You're not even attracted to them? Look at her. She's beautiful. Exactly. Like, this feels like someone experienced this and put it in the episode, because it feels real. It is the Amy Sedaris hopping off the subway, leaving her brother David and saying, good luck beating that rape charge and letting the door close. So Troy tries to help Captain Picard see a way out that gets him the Vax that doesn't involve

putting Tasha's life at risk. And as they're having this conversation, Jordi and Data come and report that men, these are really impressive weapons, especially if they were to be wielded by women. really made me wonder what exactly the research was that Jordie and Data did there because Jordi's report on this wall of weapons it's like, their weapons are right, and they do weapony things.

Some of them are sharp, some of them are pokey, some of them are clubby or wippy, all different kinds. Poison. Yeah. You're not careful. You could kill yourself. This episode really just wants to lick

every stereotype cookie. like it's going to be weird racially, it's going to be weird about women. Riker reports to them that they're like looking down at the planet and seeing a lot of people gathering near where they're hanging out. And Picard's like, all right, Tasha,

like one more chance. Do you want to get out of this? Like, we don't have to do this. Riker's looking at the like crude schematic that the engineer is able to make of like just like the sensors are sort of working to identify where the people are. And Riker's like, well, why are some of the dots black?

That's a little bad, right? I'm not the only one that feels bad about that. And you see Jordy, like, reach up to touch his com badge and then, like, decide against it. He's like, I'm not going to speak on this. One final time. I feel like everyone gets chances to stop this fight. Yeah. Like, for maybe half a dozen times, finally, Yarr confirms she,

ready to go. Picard asked her if she's ready. She's like, I promise. Let's do this. Let's go. She even gets to choose from a row of boxed up weapons. I saw this row of boxes and I'm like, this is great. This is like someone trying on shoes. Let's see which one looks the coolest. Certainly, we're going to see all the weapons, right, Ben? Actually, Adam, we don't. We only see the one, the one that we've been obsessed with for years, the spiky bird. But also, I wondered when they brought these red boxes in, if the implication was that these are not the things that data and Jury had been studying

and suddenly an advantage that they thought they had in like knowing about the suite of possibilities had gone away. Ben, you've said so often you don't understand subtext. I just don't think that that's... I don't think that's possible here. That feels like a reach. Spiky Bird was on the wall they were looking at earlier. Part of not understanding.

understanding subtext is not knowing where it is and is not, you know. I feel like if you're in the room and one of your friends is trying on a bunch of things and a huge row of boxes appears, you got to be a little relieved that they choose the first one, right? All right. We're good. We can go. Hey, mid-show check-in. And this one is important.

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Like, this is tough to pull off and not look terrible. But she does it credibly. This is like kid playing on the playground by themselves vibes. Yeah. It's like when you're making a video and you need like somebody to dance or if you have a like a combat scene and you don't have people that know how to move their bodies, it always looks bad. And I have to think she has some kind of dance training.

Both of them must because they made one of the most awkward fight scene setups. Look pretty good. I don't know if I could say that, man. This one's tough for me. I mean, I'm not saying it looks good, but like I feel like it looks as good as it possibly could give in. When you play back the tape and so we can hear Ben say that it looks good. They made one of the most awkward fight scene setups look pretty good for what it is. It's like like the levels that they have to go up and down, like under and around.

bars. It is almost comically designed to make the performers look ridiculous. Yeah, it's a tight space. There are a lot of obstacles. Crucially, you can't swing. And I think that is such a huge aspect to a pugilist combat event. Yeah. Like there's no step and throw to anything because everything is in such tight quarters and these bars are all in the way. There's no momentum to it. And I think momentum makes a body move gracefully. And without it, you look like this. One more Riker log about being really unclear about what Picard is thinking, letting this go down this way.

And speaking of poor decision making, Reiker bumps into Wesley as he's leaving the bridge. And he's like, Wesley, you can go sit at Ops. I got to go somewhere. and leaves the boy in charge of Starship operations. It is unclear who is in command once Riker leaves, isn't it? I didn't see anybody else who has a name in the opening credits. This might be the worst decision William Riker makes in his entire career.

And yet, fortunately, it doesn't bite him, because this is a setup for getting bitten, I think. Riker is a gambling man, and this one he got away with. We know he likes to bluff in poker, you know. He likes to play with danger. In the transporter room, data returns to the ship and is told no one spotted him, and that's good, and Riker and Beverly Crusher are there to greet, and they're given the green light on some secret thing they agreed upon with Captain Picard earlier. We don't know what that is yet.

They couldn't risk talking about this openly on the, the planet's surface because of like listening devices or something. And so we cut down for the main event and Yarina comes out in like a boxer's robe, which she takes off revealing a new different combat outfit from the one she was practicing in earlier. Hagon gets the let's get ready to rumble roll like the microphone comes down from up top and he, you know, tells them nothing below the belt. we've learned that these spiky birds are poisoned and it is like millisecond lethal poison. So one hit is going to end it for whoever receives it.

And amazingly, they both chose bird. Like they both woke up and chose bird. Didn't you kind of wish they chose different weapons for variety? This definitely seems like a production decision. wagging the show dog a little bit, which is like, we made our best version of Spiky Bird, and there's a backup version, too, just in case. I only had time for that. The scenes in Gladiator where, like, a bunch of different kinds of gladiators come out

with, like, different approaches to the fight, like, one with a trident and a net, and one that's, like, dual wielding daggers or whatever. Like, that's fun, and this is not fun. It's, you know. When Tasha wins the fight, she goes, Are you not kind of troubled? Is that not why you are here? The fight is a lot of swinging,

and it's clear that during this, Hagan has bet on Eurina in some fashion, or at least cares about her more than Lutan does. Lutant saying relatively nothing, remaining fairly stoic. during the fight. Probably the greatest illustration of the concept of catching strays in all of literature happens in this scene when one of the assembled fancy people of this planet gets Yarina's

spiky bird to his chest and survives long enough to hand it back to her. I think fortunately after this, the Ligonians like extended the net outward from the infield. of the ring and it made something like this far safer to watch as a spectator. It's one of those things where when you see it, you realize that must be there because something really bad happened. And something really bad happens again. Yarr finally bests her opponent. And Yarrina goes down right in the middle of this arena and Yarr just jumps on top of her

like sandwiches on top of her. and they beam right away. And arrive on the transporter pad. Ben, the dialogue in this scene once they arrive does not make any sense. Because Yarr gets off of her and she's like, she's gone cold. And Dr. Crusher's like, that goes against my instructions. I'm thinking they chop this up and made it impossible to understand. Is it like Crusher's instructions are revive her and keep her alive despite having been poisoned once she gets onto the transporter pad?

I guess we didn't have time for that stitch of dialogue. A friend of ours recently told me about a trip to the hospital in which he was medically dead for a moment. So, you know, maybe it does make sense. I don't know. I mean, on whose orders did that break? The dead part, I mean. Yeah, yeah. You know, I think a lot of doctors feel this way when a medically dead person arrives in the emergency room. That is against my instructions. Yeah, we just do triage here, not forage.

That guy is dead. Leave him alone. On the surface, Picard tells Lutane that Yarr and Yerina have been transported to the ship in order for the bird poisoning to be sucked out. and Lutan doesn't seem to care at this point what happened to Eurena because by losing the fight Oliver property belongs to him now. He's got the land,

he's got the money. So he's like, yeah, you guys can have the backs. And this is where Picard gets in there and side hugs, Luton, which transports them all up to Enterprise. Whoa, now Picard is beaming people without consent.

and Lieutenant Hagan get brought to the observation lounge for a very spooky McLaughlin group. Yeah. Issue too. Where it is revealed that his late wife survived. But this is not something that he is relieved about. He's pissed because that means he doesn't get her stuff. And she's like, no, actually, this does nullify your claim on my property.

but it also nullifies your claim on my birdie. You're no longer the main guy because I died. Urena turns to camera and goes, because once a person dies, a mating agreement is annulled according to the Ligonian Code of Honor. Troy nudges Picard and she's like, she said the name of the episode.

Such a shame that you guys aren't more civilized is what Hagan says after having been made the leader of his planet and the mate of Yorina. Yeah, and Lutan is made to be the second now. That's tough. That's really tough. It's so tough that Yarr spikes the football verbally once this is announced. Is this why he's not more pissed when he gets back onto the bridge and finds that Wesley has just been working there the whole time?

Like that detail is so important because to Picard, Wesley never left the bridge. But in Arna understanding, he came and went several times because Picard put him there and Riker put him there. I think that's hilarious. Like maybe a couple of days have gone by. Like to Wesley, you understand this might be his last time. He wants to stay there as long as possible. He'll die in that chair if he has to. Yeah.

Like Wesley reads to Picard like a like a Zoomer YouTube star like I stayed at the Op Station for 18 hours watch this you know I don't get served that kind of content I just watched a video essay about Mr. Beast so it's the only kind of content I can think about right now bad decision yeah so time to go to Styris and deliver this vaccine that I guess Hagan let them have. And job well done. Only a million people died while they were waiting for their medicine. That was a close one.

This is becoming a speech. You're the captains, though. You're entitled. I'm entitled to ramble on about something everyone knows. Ben, this episode is infamous in like all the wrong ways. like it doesn't even qualify for a rewatch people just skip it yeah and it's hard not to think about like this time around whether or not it's as offensive as its reputation but i think one thing i may be more interested in is like that choice in skipping it like isn't there something

constructive about if you're offended watching your favorite show fuck up like i think there's something fascinating about the act of doing this. And learning that Mayberry was fired is so interesting to me. And it provided some context for so much of what you see here. I was like, also good for Gene Roddenberry, but also should Gene Roddenberry have gone a little further and redone the episode or removed it or something? Like, the half measure of it is fascinating as well. I think it's an episode that really did get memory hold for a long time because it wasn't one that stations were running in syndication reruns all the time. And I don't really understand the economics of television in the 80s, but like this does feel like a, the suits need an episode. And if we try to reshoot this and make it not super gross, the whole schedule is going to be behind.

Like, I do think that this is the era where you're, like, delivering the cut to the network, and they are, like, transferring it to tape and, like, beaming it out all over the country, like, day and date. Yeah. So it might have just been a, if we really want to feed this one into the woodchipper, the way we probably should, like, everybody loses their job because the stakes are that high. I like being challenged by stuff. And I'm really glad I watched this episode for the first time in so long. Like, I personally, I feel like my tolerance is so high that, like, the idea of being offended by this is almost laughable in a weird way. But, like, I totally understand how people could watch this episode and think that it's crap and, like, never want to see it or talk about it.

But I just don't think that's in my nature. Like, I kind of want to watch something and think about it and talk about it, you know? Yeah, I think that that's a fair point. I mean, I think that loving any big franchise is an act of occasionally being really disappointed in that franchise. And that cuts across all of the kinds of things, you know, that like your baseball team routinely disappoints you if you're not a Dodger or Yankee fan. Like, your Stars Wars and your, you know, The Hobbit movies and, you know, like all of those, like anything that is like a big, like, cultural phenomenon like that invariably has missteps. There are only high highs because there are also low lows to measure them against. So, you know, I don't even know if this is the worst episode of

Star Trek. It's probably, do you think it's in the bottom 10 of all Star Trek? I'm almost positive this is not the worst episode of Star Trek. I'm fairly confident it's in the bottom 10, but maybe at 10, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it could be. be right at the top of the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what I'm saying. Well, stay tuned for Priority One Messages up next, and after that, a brand new segment. Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplemental income.

Supplemental. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, our first Priority One message is of a promotional nature, and it's from Evelyn. here's how that goes. My sister-in-law is not an FOD, but is a neat author who just self-published

a new novella called I Have No Mouth and I Must Meme. It's a cute story about an AI who gains sentience and befriends another AI, the two bondover grumpiness towards humans and grapple with their place in the world. Let's give author Stephanie Clay the greatest gin bomb. And the call to action is to down. download a book on your Kindle called I Have No Mouth and I Must Meme.

I really like the title. I like the premise. I also, I really love a novella. Like, I'm a very slow reader and it is often really nice to just like pick up a book and read it and put it right back down. Like getting through one is often a really satisfying experience for me. let's give it the bump. I have no mouth and I must meme for Kindle. Our next P1 is of personal nature. It's to Ben and Adam.

It's from Jesselin in Los Gatos, California. She says when Ben said his intro to Judaism rabbi was trans and kicked off a wholesome episode with a 10 out of 10 oven of Akhnai drash, which I assume is short for midrash. I knew I wanted to pull the P1 trigger. I'm a trans. band's choir teacher.

So I don't have many scarves to give. And I'm a Jewish musician whose hobby is plain spotting at SFO. So I just love the parisocial joy of loving what y'all love. Enjoy the scarves. Wow. So Jocelyn has a little bit of an Adam Pranica part of her soul and a little bit of a Benjamin Harrison part of her soul. Yeah, I'll wave to you next time I'm landing or taking off at SFO.

Jesselin, fun fact about SFO. My father spent many years in the facilities planning department there, and there's like a power plant building on the outskirts of the airfield there that he designed. So if you ever like looking out at the airfield there and you see a building with a jaggedy top, that's my dad's work. Well, you should give Jezel and your dad's old keys. Yeah. I'm sure he's still got his badge somewhere in his huge pocketbook. All aging parents have their badges from their place of employment. It's just a reality.

Ben, our final priority one message is of a personal nature. It's to you and me. It's from Ryan from Sacktown. Oh, hey, Ryan. Usually that goes. Hey, guys, congrats on rounding the track on the TNG era. It's been great going on this trip with you. I'm glad you guys are going back to TNG, but would love more Baywatch as well,

including Baywatch nights. Nice. Those ups were a delight. Question, what undeveloped Star Trek show do you most wish had made it to screen? Ooh. Yeah, what was the one that was going to be the sequel to TOS, but didn't happen? Are you talking about Star Trek year one? Yeah.

Oh, no, that's one of the newer ones that they're talking about, right? But there was like a Roddenberry one that was like on the launch pad, and then I think maybe they decided to turn it into the first feature film or something like that. Here's the thing. This isn't era-specific. So, like, an undeveloped Star Trek show that a lot of people are talking about now is legacy. But I feel like Marina Surdis had the greatest reaction to that ever, which is, like, no studio is going to pay half a dozen 70-year-old actors to be in a TV show. Like, that's just the fact of it. Like, it's not going to happen.

And that crystallized it for me. Like, I finally let go my hope when she said that, like, obviously. that feels like what would happen. In the spirit of the really bad ones that you are maybe glad to have to compare the really good ones against that one that Andy Weir got in the huge dust up online over talking about having pitched to Kurtzman and thinking that Star Trek had never had anything to say about politics

and the best part of it was space battles with Romulans. It might have been an interesting exercise in making overtly bad track so that we can appreciate how good we have it so much of the time. I think that's another great example. Like any time in Andy Weir or Noah Hawley or a Quentin Tarantino, anytime anyone interesting is involved in making Star Trek and you hear about it for a period of weeks and then it goes away, like I'm always intrigued by those possibilities.

It would be so rare for a franchise like this to put its IP in the hands of somebody with a signature style. And like, you know, the MCU movies are like they are all of a piece. Like they have a production style and a, you know, like one time I got my hands on like the MTV DP guide. Like, like here are all the jaunty camera angles and wide angles that you need to get when you are getting coverage. for an MTV thing. And that's how the MCU feels. Like there's not that much coloring outside the lines you get to do.

And I think it would be really cool if they did more of that. But who knows. Yeah, I think so too. Well, thanks to Evelyn, Jesselin, and Ryan from Sacktown for their priority one messages. You can do the same

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Ben, it's time for a game that I imagine will play only once. It's called But What a Public Speaker! Ben, this episode is widely condemned as racist by both cast and critics with Jonathan Frakes calling it a racist piece of shit.

Brent Spiner saying it was racist and the worst of the series. Michael Dorn called it the worst episode of Star Trek ever filmed. Wow. So he puts it at the bottom of the bottom. But... Imagine you're at a Star Trek convention. And a speaker from one of the panels has dropped out suddenly. They're looking for a replacement because they have to fill this slot.

You have been chosen to. to be that voice. Trouble is, we already have the PowerPoint set up and we can't change the topic. The title card on screen, you can't cancel code of honor. Ben, your job is like a bad dream.

You must improvise a short speech describing one favorable quality about this episode, and you must make it sound sincere, convincing me of your honesty. You cannot betray your true feelings about this episode. You've got to act. And I've got to really believe what you say.

Your punishment, if you are not believable to me, is a choice. This speech becomes what we post on social media for this episode. Or you must share a picture of yourself playing Agamagnon in the childhood version of The Odyssey without context. But if you win, if you can pull this off and make me believe you, we will use a different clip that makes you look appropriately hostile to everything this episode is about, a greatest clip montage of you airing all of your grievances out in a way that makes you look great. Everyone will love it.

Everyone will love you because they know where you stand on the way. this powerful issue. The stakes are high. People will say, how can you not be offended by this? But what a public speaker. When you are ready, Ben, you may begin. I want to start with the concept of virtue signaling. You know a secret, Mr. Spock? Everybody's virtue signaling. This has become a little bit of a term to abuse people online for stating a political preference or a belief, but even counteracting such a belief or saying that you don't like virtue signaling

is itself virtue signaling. And I think this episode does teach a valuable lesson about virtue signaling because everybody on the ship is at such great pains to treat this culture with respect while the production that is inventing and imbuing the culture with facets is treating it with the greatest disrespect. It is very rare to see the opposite of virtue signaled. And that is what is being done by the production.

While the crew, our heroes on the Starship Enterprise, nonetheless, are at pains at every step of the process to signal their virtue. In closing, going to cite what Picard says. We could fucking destroy these people. We have a ship that would tear this planet apart. We could grab our vaccine and go and leave them in an expanding fireball like Denzel walking away from something he's just destroyed. But we're not going to do it because that's not the kind of people we are. And maybe, just maybe, it's not the kind of people. we want

producing and writing this show either. I feel like I'm Captain Bacard. I've got to start clapping. Ben, that was incredible and impressive. I can't believe you just did that off the dome. I, for one,

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