The Greatest Generation - Eye Dumps (ENT S3E18)

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

When the Entrepreneur arrives at Azati Prime, Captain Archer goes deep on a suicide mission to destroy the Xindi weapon. But after a visit from Daniels and an unsuccessful attempt to die, Archer drive...s a wedge between the council as the reptilians bring the NX-01 to its knees. What’s the least dangerous thing a Star Trek podcaster could do? How could Insectoids sweep through Earth’s population the quickest? Who is the angel of death on a starship? It’s the episode that didn’t send back the bottle of brown wine.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in Starving. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument for me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the sun. Welcome to the Greatest Generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica.
Starting point is 00:00:26 It's a very special episode today, Ben. You know why? Are you talking about because of what you rolled or because of something else? Oh, because of what was rolled at the end of the last episode. We landed on a special square, a quark spa square, a neighborhood of the game of buttholes. I feel like it's been a long time since we've been here. It has been. Yeah, we've had other drinking episodes, but not one of the, you know, I was like,
Starting point is 00:00:52 maybe I'll like knock it off with the, with the booze a little bit, like the couple of weeks leading up to Vegas. No, that won't happen. I've got my glass of ice prepared here, which has melted pretty significantly just in between the back of my house and the studio. So I'm going to drink the water just to get that the fuck out of there. All right. While you drink the water, maybe I'll share what I will be drinking on today's episode. I reached into a cardboard box.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Okay. And I pulled out the last bottle I have. of Chateau-Dissoto wine. This was sent to us from Adam Tuck of Coaching Hill Vineyard and has maybe my favorite thing I've ever said on the show as its tagline at the top. It says, as dangerous as it gets for a podcaster. And what I mean by that is drinking wine that an FOD has sent in
Starting point is 00:01:54 with its own label. this wine genuinely of tremendous merit like yeah i'm not i'm not a wine expert but i know good wine when i taste it and this is good wine yeah this is uh this is actually a vintage 2016 racagino noir yeah so this has been aged quite a bit and uh i thought why not class up quarks bar a little bit today and uh honor a great f o d in the process i would love for Chateau DeSoto to be made available to people. I don't know. Would you have to clear the rights to Captain DeSoto or is it silly enough that you could just do it? I think it's silly enough to just do it. But, I mean, we should get back in touch with Adam Tuck and see what the deal is over
Starting point is 00:02:46 there. We really should. I've just poured myself a large rum, Adam. So that's what I will be sipping on today. Oh, cork buster. Oh, no! I might need to vamp a little bit longer until I can figure this thing out. What vintage is your rum, Ben? I'm drinking a Mount Gay Eclipse Heritage Blend. It sounds like having sex on a vintage bed.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Basically, what's going on over there. Did you get it out? I got it out. It's got a corky hole. I'm just trying to get a bunch of the shit out of it. Is it smell okay? Are we dealing with a corked bottle, or is it... That's just it.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Like, I wonder if I did that thing where I aged it too long. I'm really, really bad at telling whether a bottle is corked, so I could probably drink this whole thing, and it would be. Yeah, you're just smelling for dank basement. If you smell anything in the dank basement neighborhood. Honestly, it smells like wine. It smells a little fruity. Okay, good. You're good. I sent a corked bottle back at a restaurant one time, and the waiter gave me a ton of shit, and he's like, no, we're specially trained to identify when the wine
Starting point is 00:04:05 is corked. And I was like, I don't know what to tell you, man. It smells like, it smells like mildew. It's not good. This is why we have the whole thing of them pouring a little bit in a glass for you to taste. That's the ritual. I need to do the same thing. I, stupidly brought a stemmed wine glass out to the studio. Something I would caution you never to do. And there we are. There we go. It looks very dark.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It looks like one of the darkest red wines I've ever seen. It's almost brown. It really is. Dude, I don't know if it's turned or not. It tastes like booze almost. Like it tastes hot. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah. It might just need to lay down in the glass a little bit. Breathe, you know. Yeah, I like that. Let's go with this, Ben. It's a Quark Spar episode. I'm not sending this bottle back. Let's let that shit breathe. Cheers to you, man. Well, I am. Okay. Yeah. Let's go, Ben. We've got, as exciting as that Marin was, an even more exciting episode on deck today. Incredible app. It is Enterprise Season 3, Episode 18, and it's called Azadi Prime. Got free speech and guitar.
Starting point is 00:05:29 There is not even a cold open to this one. We are getting into it. We pull up. It's that red giant system. We've been promised. We learned that there's tons of Zindi security. There's like a security grid. There's lots and lots of activity with ships floating around it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We don't see the grid this episode. Does that bug you? Oh, like an actual grid in space. Like that episode of TNG where Tasha Ram Yarlane is in, you know, like and they set up that net and then data has to yell at a guy. That's my summary of that episode. But that's their grid, right? They're trying to make a grid to stop the Klingons from coming over. Someone had it memory alpha to say that that episode was the one where Data had to yell at a guy. That's my recap. Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it because they're satellites and it's just, it's just a detection grid. I feel like if you got the shield around the planet that Prince Vespa comes from in space balls.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I remember that. And the Rogue One shield? That's just like a hard shell. But a detection grid, I feel like you kind of want that to be subtle. You don't want to make it obvious that it's there. It's like a trip wire. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:51 You want it tripped. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You won't it tripped. That's a line I've been using on, uh, on interesting females my whole life. Only one of them's ever gotten me pregnant. You're never going to let that go, are you? Hey, you almost tripped my line.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And by line, I mean penis. Hello, I'm Tripp Tucker. I don't want you to get the sense that it's really, really skinny like a piece of wire. No. It's not. It's got a nice girth to it. If you were to drag a foot into my penis, you wouldn't break it. And you wouldn't set off a Claymore.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Something's going to explode, but it ain't no bomb. There's a bunch of ships that they pick up in a convoy. They zoom in on the front one. That's DeGra's ship right there. This is such a fun moment. I mean, this is as heroic. I'm not going to say as heroic as Archer gets this episode, because, like, getting the shit kicked out of him, I think, constitutes a big part of being a hero in a story like this.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But that whole, like, he's leaning forward in the seat and he's standing up, like, leaning forward. He's like, everything about him is like, we got to get this guy. And it's a big moment when he fingers the view screen and points it out. On board, Degra Ship is where we cut to next. And celebratory moment over there, not unlike a Quark Spar episode. We're all drinking to the big completion of the weapon. What an accomplishment. His toast is really something else, Ben.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Degra pour something out for his buddies. And he's like, here's to being single, drinking double, and exterminate and triple. And everyone's like, whoa. Okay. I feel like everybody is giving Degra pats on the back except for the lizardman. I'll reserve my gratitude for when the humans have been annihilated. No aquatics in this episode, no bugman in this episode. But I guess they didn't, they expended all of the CG ordinance on other shots.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So they weren't having insects and swimmers in this one. When you said that there are no aquatics in this episode, my mind went to the planet where they're building the bomb. Yeah. That must be where they live, right? My assumption was that that was an aquatic planet. They volunteered. Build it over where we are. That way we can actually do some of the manual labor. They probably regretted that right away.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah, we want to be involved, and then they're all getting chemocyte burns. Yeah, it sounds terrible. You know, the industrial accidents that are befalling them are, yeah, bad news for them. After the theme, it's clear that, like, we're doing real-life Zindy Council meetups on Degra ship and a bunch of time has given to like people being really stoked to finally do this in person. This is great. How much more efficient are we when we're all in the room together? Feels good. You know, it was nice to try the work from home thing on, but now that we're back in the office, you know, you're just like, you're coming up with ideas. You're at the
Starting point is 00:10:05 water cooler and you just strike up conversation. This is stuff that can't happen when we're all doing this over Zoom. Enterprise has been laying low behind a moon that obscures their position from the Zindy sensors, I guess. And on the bridge, they discussed this defense grid that is between them and the weapon they're trying to get at. And there is no way Enterprise is going to make it through this grid. The holes are too small. And also, like, if you take out one of the satellites, it's designed to, like, self-repair. So, yeah, they do pay off. that ship that we kept wondering about in a recent episode. Yeah, they kept that thing in the shuttle bay.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Only problem is, no one knows how to fly it. That task is given to Mayweather and Trip Tucker, and they tried to get themselves up to speed while on board. But there's this other aspect to the mission, too, right? Like, Tripp and Mayweather have to learn how to fly the ship, but we need to have some sort of facility with the Zindi language, right? because, like, we're going to get pulled over once we drive this stolen car into this territory. We got to be able to talk to the cops, right?
Starting point is 00:11:16 We don't know if the registration has expired on this thing. Like, we're going to get asked questions, and we don't speak click and pop the way the insectoids do. Hoshi is on the click and pop project, and Tepal hits her up about where she's at on that. Not very far. The translations do not go well, Enterprise. DePaul already a little bit punchy in this episode. episode, like a little bit not cool with the progress how she is making, kind of riding her a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:46 That's an interesting observation because of what happens with DePaul later on in the ep, like she's already a little tipped over into being her version of emotional, or emotionally raw for what's to come. Do you think this is burnout or something else going on with DePaul? Is it like that they have that other, what's the, there's chemo site and then there's the other stuff that you're supposed to coat your hole with? Is she just getting enough, like, low persistent dose of that stuff?
Starting point is 00:12:15 That's a great question. By having the Zindy shuttle on board and not really knowing where Topal's quarters are in relation to the shuttle bay? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. Could be affecting her. You know, she might want to rip some eyeballs out,
Starting point is 00:12:30 is what I'm saying. Yeah. Or be inside out, as the case may be. I don't know how Balkans decide these things. But I was just thinking about Tripp and Travis down there in that ship. They have to be so grateful that the insectoids keep their shuttles a little bit tidier than they keep their hatcheries, you know? They're not getting, like, dirty, they're not getting goo all over their uniforms in there.
Starting point is 00:12:55 That's a great call. It is dressed very differently than that on-planet crash ship situation was. Yeah, much less disgusting. There's some discussion right before Tripp and Travis depart between them and Archer, where Archer is at great pains to insist that they not make this a suicide mission. Like, this is Recon, and we're not going to get the information that you get if you don't come back. Yeah, you're only supposed to take pictures, guys. Just photographs. Under no circumstances, are you to engage the enemy?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Sort of seems like something you shouldn't have to say, you know? Yeah, say less, Archer. You're kind of making me nervous. He is as emotionally piqued as to Paul. He's just shown it way more. Yeah. These flying lessons do not go well. Like, there's that thing where you sort of fly the craft on the ground
Starting point is 00:13:52 before you finally take it out for the first time on its test flight. Yeah. And the initial flight, the first flight, goes as well as that first flyby they did of Enterprise in the first episode. It reminds me of a guy who's, like, getting into motorcycling and, you know, tries to get on a 150-c-c-c-bike before he's really, you know, learned the ropes. They leave the shuttle bay and immediately collide with the entrepreneur. There's a physics to this that makes it seem different from a normal shuttle in that, like, a shuttle is very straight ahead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But this Cindy's ship seems very floaty in a dimension. sense like it's sort of like we're space to have waves in it it seems very subject to like bobbing and turning and and floating around there is something about the way it moves that i thought was really great because it reminded me of model ship on a piece of fishing line yeah yeah which i imagine is really hard to accomplish in a 3d animation environment you know like there we've seen bad 3D animation, and this is not that. It's like good 3D animation to look like bad
Starting point is 00:15:11 model work. Yeah. Yeah. In a funny way. So the Zindy Shuttle makes it to the security grid, and they pass right through. This is great, except as soon as they pass through, here's a patrol,
Starting point is 00:15:25 comes right up and hails him. And this is like immediate shakedown for Hoshi's translation program. Insect Eric Estrada comes and like, they roll the window down, it's like, you know how fast I clocked you going back there? Insect Eric Estrada grabs, like, the external bone structure of its skull and, like, pulls it back like a hairline trick.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I didn't you see your license and registration. And if you could put an orange wedge on a paper plate, I would appreciate that as well. Has there ever been more done with less than Eric Estrada has done with the fake wig? trick that he does with his hair. It's fucking perfect. Yeah. It works every time. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So they do have this translation matrix that Hoshi made for them. And it's sort of, it feels very rudimentary. It's like speak and spell, not live universal translator giving you all of the feeling and inflection. But it gets them out of trouble. Like they're ordered to reunite with their, with their mothership or whatever. And they're like, gotcha. we'll do see you later and we cut back to the entrepreneur where suddenly they're getting scanned and there's no ships in sight they realize this scan is coming from the surface of the moon that
Starting point is 00:16:50 they're hiding behind and they realize there's an installation down there a complex maybe you'd call it a facility anyways it's down there maybe you'd call it a felicity even oh yeah I thought that place was great until the haircut and then it's just like I don't even care anymore Guys are gonna hate it Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:12 And I've got faith Of the far heart Legally it's just a far joke Exposure to oxygen triggers chemical reactions That turn alcohol into Acetylid Which makes wines turn brown
Starting point is 00:17:30 Oh maybe that's why it's so dark Yeah I was just looking into that Here's my search term Wine tastes like alcohol Dangerous question mark I don't think this is unsafe to drink I'm feeling good
Starting point is 00:17:47 I mean most of your hair Hasn't fallen out yet My field of vision I mean it's closing But like all it needs to be is here Right You just need to be able to see the screen So that you can be on
Starting point is 00:18:02 For the people watching the stream absolutely and i am yeah very much so you're doing great thanks i don't think we have anything to worry about i don't think i'm being slowly poisoned by this at all i think you're safe i think you found the least dangerous thing a podcaster can do this is exciting anything could happen anyways they're talking about this this place this felicity down there and they can't raise the alarm because of the moon's rotation like the zindi that are down there are facing away from the rest of the zindi i guess so there's nothing nothing to worry about in the short term but archer is pretty quick to react to this and he nukes the entire site from orbit it's the only way
Starting point is 00:18:52 to be sure fucking what did you make of how fast archer went from knowledge to action here he really went hard and fast, didn't he? Yeah. Three folks inside. RSVP, those guys. Amazing to see his after five shadow just instantly appear on his face. I think this moment is crucial
Starting point is 00:19:16 in the episode to understand that nothing is off the table for Archer. Absolutely. Like, I don't think anything he does could surprise from here. Everybody on the bridge feels weird and bad about this, including Reed, who pulled the trigger. It's like the boss doing something terrible at a holiday party.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like, whoa, you're not supposed to sing that song at karaoke at a work function. Yeah, like my, it rubs the lotion on its skin karaoke song. Oh, yeah. That was one of those. You do not want to see, like, the senior VP for your region do that at the holiday party. The Open Pike Night guys are holding onto that video, and we'll release it at a time when we're at our most sensitive. The Open Pike Night guys are very much the push-a-tee to my Travis Scott. I've always thought this.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Are they who we're having a podcast war against, finally? Are we heating this up? You know, another dangerous thing for a podcaster to do, given the footage that they, I know. Probably are in possession of. But let's fucking do it. I think we can smoke those guys. We're undefeated when it comes to podcast wars.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Tell you that much. So Tripp and Trav are on their bug shuttle, and they find something on a water world, which has lots of little islands, but nobody living on the islands. But they've discussed how this shuttle has high structural integrity. so they can go underwater with it. And they plunge in and like immediately come over an ocean ridge and there is the Zindi weapon in a construction apparatus. Let's be clear about this.
Starting point is 00:21:12 This is a planet-sized planet that is almost entirely ocean. They did not know where the weapon was under the water. And they submerged right next to it. Yeah, I mean, there was some talk of Tripp getting some readings of something. I feel like that explains it, but like, yeah, it's a whole ass planet. Were you looking around in the water at the thing swimming? I could swear I saw some Aquatics Indy in there. Oh, were they like waving goodbye to the shuttle as it went by?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Like the guy in the shipbuilding facility when the Enterprise leaves? You know what? They looked fucking tired of doing all the work. They're toiling. It sucks for them. Yeah. Anyway, they go full on inside this thing. This was unexpected, too. Mayweather and Tripp are flying their little Zindy shuttle around.
Starting point is 00:22:12 They go up in it. Yeah. We've talked a lot about how the prototype weapon was a lot smaller than we expected. This one bigger than I expected. Ships are going in and out of it. lot of them. There's traffic. They have to do like a full zipper merge to get in there. Like the heads of a magic shop, where's the regular size? We're already to woo-ho-ha. You skipped regular size, Cindy.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And we are immediately back in a McLaughlin group. Issue one. In the command center. We go through a dissolved transition to get there, though. I really like that. That's not something we get all the time on Star Trek. The rare dissolve transition and trick. Did you have a favorite number of frames for your dissolves when you were doing production? It comes preset at one second. One second is the default of a dissolve. Which is bad, which I never did. I don't know about you. No, yeah. It's like it comes preset it so I can mess with that. I was a 10-framer. 10 frames, wow. Like it softened the cut enough to like to not make it feel hard
Starting point is 00:23:24 but but like it wasn't this luxurious dissolve I thought I thought it worked under most circumstances for stuff I was working on I made a music video that had a lot of whip pans in it and I was trying to do dissolves between the whip pans and
Starting point is 00:23:40 I kept shortening my dissolves until I realized it doesn't need a dissolve in a whip pan you can do a hard cut and it's invisible sneak it right in there yeah Dissolve is hard to deploy artfully, I would say. Yeah. Like, it's very funny because all of the like consumer grade video editing things that have ever existed all the way back to video toaster put so much work into all of the weird video transition effects that they pack in.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Like cube rotate, star wipe, and they all just look bad for the most part. Do you think Dissolve as a transition is like for the past? Because I'm thinking of modern TV and movies and you don't really see it anymore. Yeah. And were you to see it, it might bump you a little bit. I think that they do it in like the Star Wars things to signal this is a Star Wars thing. But it was like, hey, look at this neat thing we can do in the 70s when they made Star Wars. And now it's like a, this is just so you're not.
Starting point is 00:24:47 getting it twisted this is a star wars thing sure i mean because star wars would still do an iris open iris close kind of transition and that's still fun and cool but they're the only ones that get to do that yeah yeah i like a nice long dissolve you know the one in space balls is great nice dissolve so what's happened here is we've dissolved from from the planet side to Tripp and Mayweather having returned to Enterprise reporting on what they found in their mission, and they are able to decide on a part of the weapon that would be best served to destroy it, were they to deploy a shuttle full of explosives to do it, except that would make it functionally a suicide mission, wouldn't it? Because if you were to go in there with a shuttle with all these
Starting point is 00:25:40 explosives like you're not leaving right you're not getting out of the shuttle and like dumping explosives out of it yeah and then leaving before the blast radius hits you you're you're just hitting a button from inside did any part of you wish that they had like preserved some technology from digamot and his people and sent somebody on the suicide mission with a brooch that they could stab into themselves i love that a lot I think that would be great Like they go into great detail about like The thing about these shuttles is
Starting point is 00:26:18 Once they get crushed There's a lot of guesses about how much suffering there would be Were you to fill up with a bunch of billionaires And then have that thing Get crushed up like Were anyone to volunteer for this mission It's a total mystery about a painful it could get So maybe we give you a poison brooch
Starting point is 00:26:34 And you stick that into your arm and hit the button at the same time that removes the possibility of any suffering. And Mayweather hearing this is like, put me in, coach. Yeah. I want this. And I want to pause the episode right here. I
Starting point is 00:26:51 wanted this for him. I love this for him. Because if you kill Mayweather in this way in this episode, he becomes the ultimate hero of Star Trek Enterprise forever. It's just like being back in the world. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:27:07 In some Travis Mayweather. Parents must be very proud. I should be the one to go. Forget it. Who are you? I'm the helmsman. I'm the only one that can pilot that shuttle. And your mom?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Very proud. That's true. Takes practice. I think I'm getting a feel for. I think I found reverse. An actual memorable thing for him to do, which they haven't really done for him up until now. Hard for Tripp to do it because he'd have to stab that brooch right into his nipple. I'd have to find some flesh
Starting point is 00:27:37 But in between But what if I miss? It's all ariola All the way down It's a moot point Because Archer's like, no It's got to be me I'm doing the suicide mission
Starting point is 00:27:51 This is a hell of a way to end a meeting Like as soon as he says that What else can you say? Like he's the captain All right Yeah I mean if you're gonna go With a bunch of billionaires
Starting point is 00:28:02 in a vessel of dubious structural integrity. Like, I got respect for you going yourself. It's a dubious can. Yeah. It's good faith to believe I can do parity. Archer is, like, going to get on the elevator after telling Travis, like, meet me in the shuttle bay for flight lessons in half an hour. And he gets on the elevator and is immediately aboard what we learn. is the Enterprise J.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And it's in the middle of a war. Enterprise J, kind of a wide king, as we see on the Master Systems display behind them on occasion. We don't really get an exterior shot of this ship at this moment, but we do see it in schematic. I'm going to say a better-looking ship than Enterprise E or F. Wow. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Harsh. harsh but fair it's something that we only see in schematic at this point but Daniels is there and he's in his ropey outfit just for some reason
Starting point is 00:29:13 miles of feces and urine going through the tubes like doesn't that ever drive you crazy like when in health class you're told like yeah the small and large intestine is like 40 feet long
Starting point is 00:29:26 and you're like that's impossible yeah if you took it out of you you could stretch it out yeah like you could go to the moon and back four times off of the length that your small and large intestine put together like that doesn't make any sense that's what's going on here with Daniels's
Starting point is 00:29:39 shit tubes and archer's like I guess because Dune is like 10,000 years in the future so like it takes that long to come up with the technology for the feces just to be processed in the thigh pads in your time it has to be processed everywhere
Starting point is 00:29:55 it's getting harder and harder to surprise you captain and yet Daniels looks warm and comfortable yeah Yeah, they're in that weird nebula that everybody had to sleep their way through. And presumably the J has some kind of shielding that protects from that nebula. But this is a conflict between the Federation and the sphere builders. And we're told that sphere builders are using those spheres to terraform the galaxy, essentially,
Starting point is 00:30:26 to turn it into a place where transdimensional beings can hang. They're kind of beings of mystery at this point, aren't they? I mean, they just have normal-looking ships. Their ships are kind of, like, dumb-looking, honestly. I thought so, too. They're, like, looking out the view screen, and Daniels is gesturing broadly. This is one of the great moments in Federation history. We finally get over on these fucking sphere builders, and it's great,
Starting point is 00:30:52 because it represents the promise of what the Federation is. You know what the Federation is, right, Archer? And Archer's like, what the fuck are you talking about? you've mentioned this before but it doesn't ring a bell yeah and daniels is like well needless to say federation is really important it's a bunch of different kinds of guys that all got together and they're not going to get together without the humans so if the zindi take you guys out just really shits on galactic history from that moment forward what do you make of how emphatic archer was in his defense about wanting maybe even needing to die at this
Starting point is 00:31:30 point and send someone else i won't do that no one tells me not to die god damn it i just took out an entire felicity from orbit i feel terrible right now this is the only way i can think of to atone daniels has got to do more than just say it's really bad doesn't he this is not enough yeah at this point archer has like moved through time and so he has this sort of way about himself that like he has the confidence of someone who's had a time travel experience talking to a professional time traveler and being like, I'm on the same level as you. I know what you're talking about when he kind of doesn't. It's rough. The message from Daniels is go convince the Zindi. Like in the way that you're trying to convince me, you know shit about time travel. Go convince
Starting point is 00:32:21 the Zindi that you know shit about what they're up to with their weapon and that they need to not proceed with the killing of all humans everywhere like if you sacrifice yourself like you're blowing the whole thing like you've got to live through this and you've got to convince the Cindy not to use their planet killer. Do you think there's
Starting point is 00:32:40 something about Archer's understanding of time travel that makes death seem a little bit squishy as a concept like a little less permanence than he might normally associate with it pre knowledge of time travel
Starting point is 00:32:55 yeah i mean interestingly we've learned from daniels that the results of actions taken and archer's time propagate through yeah the timeline in a way where daniels doesn't feel it immediately yeah so like daniels doesn't know what archer's going to do here pretty wild yeah you've got to be thinking like i mean daniels knows what he knows but i he doesn't know what i know i could be i could do anything at this point you know hey listen archer i see you're pretty dug in with the whole kill yourself aspect of this mission let's just pretend that there is a moment of doubt for you at some point i'm going to give you this little brooch in case you choose the diplomatic option at some point i want you to have this in your pocket uh this belonged to a zindy crew person who's on this very ship at this very
Starting point is 00:33:48 moment the Enterprise J. Let's just say if you're ever in a in like a, you know, a Starfleet bar and somebody comes up to you, you're going to want to have this in your pocket. Archer's like, why is it all wet? Daniels is like, well, that's because this is
Starting point is 00:34:04 an aquatic, Cindy. And Archer's like, I didn't think they did anything. Like, what? He kind of, he mostly wrenches on things. He's kind of a, you know, he's a laborer. He's not the brightest guy in the in the crew by any extent.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They work for the navigation cetaceans, like kind of a job without a lot of opportunities. Like, that's just where they're going to be. You wouldn't think that a huge tank full of whales would need, like, a janitor, but there you go. Yeah. He's scraping barnacles off of the navigation whales. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's also what he eats, amazingly. Yeah. To Paul and Archer catch up after this encounter. And he's like, I don't know, man. I just really am kind of hot committed on the whole killing myself thing. And she's like, I don't know. I mean, like, let's hear this Daniels guy out. He did prove to us recently that time travel exists.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So maybe, uh, maybe listen to him. This is that kind of ugly argument that a person can get into where they use the other person's words against them. like Archer's like To Paul you don't even believe in time travel So shut the fuck up Like you don't get to have an opinion here Yeah that never works
Starting point is 00:35:25 No it does not And she's also just She expresses doesn't want him to die Doesn't consider it to be necessary In one of the moments of this episode Where Jolene emotes here Like the mask of being a Vulcan slips Just a little bit in this scene
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah I think more and more over the course of the episode. Yeah. Catch up with Degra. He is having a hang with like, I guess like the main lizard guy. The main Liz? The Sliz, Liz?
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yeah. Do we have a name on King of the Lizard people? Oh yeah, we do. This is Dallum. Dallum. Dallum, he's got plans. He wants a bunch of ships. He wants four ships to go with the weapon
Starting point is 00:36:12 when it goes to take out the earth. And his idea is that, that many ships will be needed to chase down any Fugees that attempts to depart the system upon the destruction of the planet. Degra's really stressed out about whether the vortex can be made that is big enough to accommodate the weapon and for ships. Like we've been we've been stepping it up in the plugs over the course of weeks to get stretched out and ready to accommodate this weapon. I don't know if we can stretch it much further. to be honest.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I mean, and what Dahlum is riding for to use that description is that, yeah, I mean, you just need to get a weapon plus four escort ship size plug to get this thing worked out. Yeah. I got to say, aren't you on Dolem's side here? Like, why would you fly this thing unescorted anywhere? Like, I don't know. Removing the idea of like, yeah, we got to do the mop-up. duty with the refugees, like with the other ship, obviously. But like, wouldn't you want
Starting point is 00:37:20 something flying interference? Makes a ton of sense. I mean, it is a super weapon. Like, can it not defend itself? Like, can it just take out anything that comes at it? I don't know. I don't know. Super weaponally? I don't know. Or is it a one shot deal? Like, the other one kind of took its shot and then, and that was it. So. This argument is interrupted. with news that the moon base is late for their check-in, and if you'll remember, it's because they're dead and exploded over on the moon base. Not exploded in the good way where your muscles look good,
Starting point is 00:37:58 but the bad way where you're dead. There's a conversation here between Degra and Jinar where it's like two bad guys talking about the bad thing they're about to do and maybe the mixed feelings they've got during. Yeah. You know, we're about to be successful with our extermination, but also, you know, it's them or us, and that makes it complex, doesn't it? Women and children, et cetera, et cetera, and the arboreal guy's like, no, genocide is the right path.
Starting point is 00:38:27 We should do this. And we love women, am I right? Am I right, Degra? You know I'm right. I like that the humanoids and the arboreals are kind of like, you know, like, ultimately, like, we're more similar than all the. those other kinds of guys. We breathe the same way. Our blood temperature is very similar. Yeah. Legally, it's just a fart joke.
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Starting point is 00:42:32 Ben would rather die. Over on this Indy shuttle, Mayweather is giving flying and instructions to Archer. Archer having maintained, he will be the guy that stick flying this thing on its suicide mission. And Mayweather has to question at this point, now that they're alone, why he would lead the suicide mission. Archer being a pretty high value crew person, especially compared to Mayweather. He knows this. Archer's answer is pretty simple. He's done a lot of killing, especially lately and it is time to go for the most perfect game and that's himself
Starting point is 00:43:12 what if i could also kill myself mayweather yeah yeah what if this mortally zero-sum game i'm playing could end with a perfect score it's the reason of a crazy person and mayweather could do nothing to talk about of it Sorry I asked. But Adam, would a crazy person leave his dog in the care of a kindly doctor like flocks? This moment kind of bumped me because you know how dark archer's gotten when he doesn't outwardly emote anything during the rehoming of his dog on the eve of a suicide mission. Like, there isn't even, you can tell the person who wrote this episode isn't a dog owner or lover because, there isn't that last moment of like,
Starting point is 00:44:07 I love you so much, scritches, and then, like, he turns away and, like, bites his fist. Come on! You get your hands under those, those floppity ears,
Starting point is 00:44:17 you get the side of the face, and you might comment to the person, I wish I could explain this to him. Yeah. You know. The writer of this episode thinks that the cheese thing is that. The cheese thing is not that.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. Give my dog diarrhea on purpose is not that. Yeah. It sounds very biblical. Give my dog diarrhea in remembrance of me. Do this as off to see she'll eat it. Take, eat the cheese. Three writing credits on this one.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Ranan, Rick, and Manny. Yeah. Got together on this. Who knows? Who fumbled the dog ball this hard? Yeah. Yeah, hard to know. A real bumper of a scene here.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Dr. Vlax is like, I don't think we discussed this previously. Like, I feel like you're kind of dumping this dog on my doorstep. Yeah. Not really fair. Did you see a fire station logo on the door to Six Bay? What are you doing? There might be something baked into this scene that we're not talking about. And that is maybe the percentage chance that everyone believes this mission will be successful anyway,
Starting point is 00:45:30 versus them all believing they're going to die because this isn't going to work. Like, maybe that's the energy Archer has here. He's like, well, you're going to be taking care of Porthos for about, looks at his watch, three hours. Good luck. That's interesting. I mean, it's a question of like what we bring to
Starting point is 00:45:52 the viewing of a thing like this. And it's Star Trek. Like, they're going to save the planet, you know? Sure. Especially in prequel Star Trek. We know that the Earth will be fine. That's a great point, except for the thing that Daniel said about the sphere builders existing out of time and thus being able to control situations all over the map. Archer also says his goodbye to his crew.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Maybe a reverse of what it should have been. Maybe he should have saved this much emotion for the dog and just get. given a pretty perfunctory speech to the crew. But he really proud poppus them. I mean, and maybe this undercuts what you just said about their, like, feeling about the doomedness of their mission because he's talking about all of the other captain butts that are going to sit in that chair.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Of all of the captains I have ever known, I am the most angry. I'm so angry. Yeah. he's angry but these guys rule and away he goes yeah it would be great if he bumped enterprise for old time's sake like he he flurped the ship around like whoa oh like balks into the shields bounces off goes their separate ways and everyone on the bridge crew is like damn there goes a real one like he was always himself wasn't he he scrapes off the last e on the on the name of the ship
Starting point is 00:47:28 Enterpris The fuck is that Through the gritty goes Just like the first time through Like that's pretty much assured Yeah I like that he doesn't get pulled over I thought that the episode
Starting point is 00:47:41 Made a good choice Not having the You know The tips are out there on the highways But they're not catching every single speeder To Paul Has watched long enough She goes into the clarinet rental closet
Starting point is 00:47:55 Because that is her space to cry everyone knows you don't cry at work you don't you got to take that into the breastfeeding room or someplace private no matter who you are you do not cry at your desk
Starting point is 00:48:12 you'll never be seen the same way again yeah there's actually there's a second room now right next to the breastfeeding room for crying because it's like but I don't want to be seen going in the crying room I'm going in the breast room Because then at least it's a mystery
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah What's Adam doing in there? That's weird What does Adam identify as anyways? It's not appropriate to ask at work. It definitely isn't And it isn't up to me to I objectify his body And whether or not he has lactating breasts
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'll just roll those questions around in my own mind Those are inside thoughts She's having a real hard time with this And actually lets a tear go What does that got to feel like for a Vulcan? It's got to feel orgasmic in a weird way, right? Right. Like taking a massive dump after being super constipated.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Eye dumps. That's what she's doing. Yeah. Archer makes it there pretty quickly and comes up to that construction apparatus that the sphere was in. But the sphere was in it. It is no longer. I love Archer's taste. here. This is so disappointing.
Starting point is 00:49:28 They really did a good job with the reveal too. Oops, the only thing we have around us are these aquatics, Indy. Yeah. Finally a break. Yeah. Finally I get to eat. They're all sitting around with like
Starting point is 00:49:42 with like, you know, buckets full of coronas on ice. Yeah. Thank fucking Christ. I was speaking of beers. I've switched my intake to a one of my few remaining spotted cows. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I thought I saw that creep it in a frame there. That's awesome. Good job by you. I'm almost down to the bottom of my second glass of wine, and the reason I've slowed down a bit is because I feel like something about this is very strong. I'm feeling pretty drunk after two glasses in a way that two glasses of wine doesn't usually do to me. I think there's something about what's happened to this bottle that is a, strengthening it up. I wish there was a way to assess
Starting point is 00:50:28 like how much, like what the percentage. Like you can't like wave your phone over a glass of wine and... I wish there was a way to know if I was drinking poison or not because I think I think maybe like microdosing poison would feel very similarly to what I'm experiencing right now. I mean there's only a few lesions breaking out on your face and like you know when you bring your hand up to move your hair I can I can see that one of your fingers fell off, but the rest are fine.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I do feel like a very warm face feeling. I do feel funnier than I usually feel, which is also a symptom of being drunk. Like, you really think you're funny when you're drunk. So that's part of it. The bits are really cooking. Yeah. How about this moment where Archer goes to the coordinates,
Starting point is 00:51:18 finds no super weapon there, takes bangers, and then powers cut on his ship before we cut away. Like, he's in the dark and underwater. And I almost wish that they stayed with this moment a little bit longer because the creeping dread of that is really powerful. Like, use it. Every submarine film that's ever been made has used that moment.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And this episode cuts away from it and lets us just spin on that. And we learn in the next scene between Topal and Tripp in the Clarinet Rental Clause that it's been two hours with no. news from Archer, no evidence that a massive explosion erupted on that planet. He's like, to Paul, you got to be on the bridge. Like, this is important shit we're doing right now. And she is too bummed out, too sad, trying to put on a brave face that she's just being a stoic Vulcan and that if she's needed, she can be summoned easily.
Starting point is 00:52:19 But it's a real best of both worlds moment. Like, Trip almost goes into the, like, that's now your chair. Is it, though? I was close with Archer, closer than friends, closer than family, and I can say goodbye. I really wonder how the rest of the crew feels about a non-commissioned Vulcan officer being given the captain's chair on a starship in this way. Yeah. Where, like, she quit her job. She's a fucking contractor.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah. Like, there are people who would have real gripes. about that, I think, especially in a moment like this, especially with her being such an absentee captain. It's more interesting because of Trippin' Tepal's intimacy that he feels empowered to do this. And that she feels empowered to tell him to get the fuck out of her office. Like, it's a level of vulnerability that is really intense for this scene. These are now, you're clarinets. To Paul's like, I actually didn't know what we're in these cases. It's really what it is?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Huh. I won't cease or desist because you really think it's fair use. Archer's getting beat up in one of those interrogation rooms where you get your hands chained to the ceiling. Oh, this is great. I love this. His prisoner taunts of his captors are really tremendous
Starting point is 00:53:46 because he's getting beaten up by Lizardmen and he's bragging about the extinction of the dinosaur. Around 65 million years ago, most of the reptiles died out. Mammals became the dominant species. Oh, unfortunate. He has got a lot of lip for a guy who failed his mission. Yeah. And this is something that, uh, that Dallum calls him out on later. Like, do you want to die, dude? Like, what are you doing here? You're making it a little easy for us to beat on you. Yeah. Dolm also tells him that the enterprise has been. been clocked in the system and that they're going to destroy it unless he makes with the
Starting point is 00:54:30 information. I guess the information that they want is like, what are you doing here? And, and, you know, how many Starfleet ships are in the expanse. Like, what are we up against, basically? Archer breaks the spell here by, uh, by bringing up the idea of Degra's third mystery child. Yeah. And Dahlum's like, what are you talking about, dude? Everyone knows. was DeGra's got two kids. Archie's like, no, not me. I know. I know the truth.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Third Mystery Child. You know what? I was kind of a fan of DeGra before he was really famous. You know? Yeah. I think the stuff that he put out before he was on a major label was some of his best work. And I'm familiar with some of the deeper cuts. Let's just say that.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Anyways, I want to talk to him and not you. I'll tell him everything you want to know. Cut over to Enterprise. And to Paul, hey. Return to the bridge. Mm-hmm. Good job, DePaul. That's where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:55:28 It is clear by now to everyone that the weapon was not destroyed. And the question in the room is, what do we do now? Like, the expectation was the weapon would be destroyed, or we'd hear from Archer, or we'd be destroyed by now. So to Paul and Reid and Tripp Tucker are talking it over, and they're like, we don't want to just wait for whatever. How about we give this one more hour. before Topal goes through with her plan to go in by herself
Starting point is 00:55:57 and do a little Vulcan-style diplomacy. Also sounding a little bit like a suicide mission in this case. She's like, I'll just take a shuttle and I'll go in and I'll try. And they're like, huh? But you don't even have that little pin that Archer was given. Yeah. Pin seems important. That's going to be in one of your earth hours.
Starting point is 00:56:18 They're going to wait until Topal goes and tries this. That's a lot of time to kill. keep beating on archer. But in this case, Degra has actually gotten word about what Archer said. And so he's brought in and he does that thing.
Starting point is 00:56:32 That's great. He dismisses everyone from the room. Yeah. So they can talk privately. Or I guess if you're Archer, like, do you talk primately? Hmm. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:56:45 But they're humanoids and the primates are the Dr. Zeyas guys. So they can't talk primately. but like what are humans if not evolved primates it's a great point Adam it's not good terminology in the Zindy I've been saying this forever like I don't know if the Zindy came up with this or if you know the earth government came up with this
Starting point is 00:57:09 for the purposes of my word play I think we can agree that they are talking primately you know what I think I think the universal translator is to blame for this and therefore Hoshi is to blame for this she fucked this up Yeah. Because humans are primates. Humans are type of primates. Humans are apes. We're great apes.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. You know? We share 99% of our DNA with bonobos and chimps. Created by the great ape creator. Some would say we're damn dirty apes. Hmm. I wouldn't. I think we're quite clean generally.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah. All my parts are clean. Yeah. But anyways, all of the lizardmen leave and the conversation begins. and Archer has DeGra listening because he's got lots of semi-secret biographical information about DeGra's life and he explains like you guys are acting based on a lie based on, you know, wool that has been pulled over your eyes and I can prove it
Starting point is 00:58:11 and he taps that coin on the counter of the bar and DeGras like patting all of his pockets and he's like, oh shit I don't have one of those This whole idea that like When you destroy the humans you destroy yourself man Yeah The weight of that is in this scene Cut to later
Starting point is 00:58:33 Where Degra has this coin quantum dated This thing you took from Archer And he's out talking to the council Like... He's just talking to like mammals Yeah he's not talking to the whole council He's talking to his dudes about what to do about this
Starting point is 00:58:49 and there's like kind of a lot more discussion of Detroit than you'd ever expect on a Zindi ship maybe ever like if this were a bedible ass thing like how many times the word Detroit is said on a Zindi ship I would I mean I would set the line at point five
Starting point is 00:59:10 and it's basically a yes or no he described the pizza of this place and it's a it's a thicker crust with you know sauce on top of the cheese what we get out of this is a fair bit of news about the insects indy developing the secret bio weapon like that's the main thing that happened in Detroit right and that is driving a wedge between the insectoids and everyone else on the council they're like those fucking guys and and there's some discussion of like should we go to the big the bigger council with this information or should we like just tell the aquatics because
Starting point is 00:59:46 It sort of seems like the lizardmen and the bugmen are in league. But, you know, the council doesn't work when we're all kind of like making, you know, backroom deals among subsets of the species. I got a great question about the Zindy bio weapon. The reptiles made the bioweapon in Detroit. It wasn't the insectoids. Yeah. But if the insectoids wanted to make a bio weapon, why wouldn't they do?
Starting point is 01:00:16 just squirt a bunch of ropes in people's faces and it just transforms them into a zy insectoid protecting people at their core we have to help these children all of a sudden everyone on the council's pro zindian sectoid going along with whatever their ideas are because it's good for the insects we've seen one example of what this huge weapon can do maybe this this even bigger one what it does is sprays ropes all over the faces of every human Earth. What you do is you get a bunch of well-dressed Zindy insectoids wearing boot and ears on their chest. They're going around asking folks to smell their flower. Oh, Zindy rope. Zindy rope again. All of a sudden you're on our team. They could sweep through the earth population
Starting point is 01:01:08 very quickly that way. Absolutely. That's not their idea, though. They're not as smart as us. on the entrepreneur trip is basically chasing to Paul through the ship and into the shuttle bay and trying to convince her not to go on this solo diplomacy mission and if you thought she was emotional before brother you ain't seen emotional is this a word that's ever been said before is this diplomacide that's what i feel like to Paul is after and she gets like on the of a shuttle pod before she is stopped with news that Zindy ships are incoming. That, like, grabbing the elbow move always feels bad to see a man due to a woman in a show, right? And yet that is, like, the language of TV and film for time immemirium.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Like, I feel like that is a function of weak dialogue. If you can't write dialogue that acts as a placeholder for grabbing a, woman's arm, then, like, you failed. Write better dialogue, you know? Rick Berman is like, let's toss out these four lines and just have him grab her elbow. Now, is it, and I'm playing the part of Rick Berman here. Now, is it possible that Tripp could, like, grab her elbow and all of her clothes could fly off? Like, like, maybe she slips down the ladder into the shuttle pod and like, whoop. And he's just up there holding her cat suit.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Like, oh, dang. I didn't know. It came apart like that. Yeah. And then she climbs up the ladder and they got to make out because that's what they need to do. There's a moment where she's climbing the ladder and trying to cover herself up, but she's not doing that good of a job.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Can we write that into the script? I've seen everything. I've seen it all. Rick, sorry, standards and practices are not going to let us do that. Fuck! cut over to the bridge to Paul's hails of these four ships go unanswered
Starting point is 01:03:12 so we're left on this cliff when we cut over to the Zindy jail cell Archer unshackled he's already received a ton of trust in this scene he's asking for more trust he wants to address the Zindy council directly
Starting point is 01:03:27 and personally and man that's a big ask I think in this moment they're like I don't know he's like I really insist. You're fighting the wrong enemy.
Starting point is 01:03:41 A guy I know that has poop running through his entire uniform insisted that that was the case. We're running toward the last couple of minutes of this episode. Enterprise is getting absolutely rocked by these indie ships. Sparks and girders are flying and dropping. Also getting dropped as Archer at a detention center for more interrogation. That's because Dullum has taken control. things now, and the orders to attack Enterprise actually came from him. That's the way it's going to be. That's final. He has sort of superseded everybody and decided that he is going to
Starting point is 01:04:18 destroy the entrepreneur, and if there are any survivors, they can join Archer in their interrogation center. These fucking Lizardmen are acting like they'd run the place. It really feels like when we see these scenes of Enterprise being attacked, like this is the most amount of damage a ship named Enterprise has ever taken. Like it's it's an Enterprise C amount of damage they're taking at this point. Right. Like aside from like blowing up the whole damn ship, this is it. And people are getting blown into space. People are catching on fire and like rolling around on the ground and getting, you know, fire extinguishers blown at them. It's so much. People are recreating the Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here album cover.
Starting point is 01:05:05 left and right we get a super duper zoom in on the eyes of Topal in the captain's seat what does that mean this is such an interesting composition because there's so much chaos going on with the exterior of the ship being attacked
Starting point is 01:05:22 the interior of the ship being attacked and then like the stillness of a to Paul like almost scorekeeping in her mind yeah and that's it that's the way the episode leaves us did you like this episode
Starting point is 01:05:38 I can't pay Could for late Got no case Tempting fate I don't know man This might be my favorite episode of Enterprise I don't know whether this is the brown wine talking
Starting point is 01:05:50 Or not But I really thought this was great And I think it was great Because of how it just grew And grew in intensity Toward the end of it Like it started off with Archer Going on like
Starting point is 01:06:03 Insisting on a suicide mission and it ended with the possible death of not just enterprise, but like Earth at the hands of the super weapon. Like this crescendo of a tone was very persuasive. Like it just made me feel like this is one of the high watermarks of the series itself. I don't know how many episodes of Star Trek we've watched, but it's like dozens at least. I mean, I think we're talking about 591 episodes of Greatest Gen.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Yeah, and then a handful over there on Greatest Trek, too. 335. Yeah. When the credits rolled on this episode, I was shocked. It's a great moment, right? I was like, that's it? That's it? Like, I had no concept of where I was in time at that point.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I was so locked in on this episode. Why not to be continued this? I think that this is amazing choice It's an amazing To be continued is old-fashioned shit Like this is a modern television show You know You know what I loved
Starting point is 01:07:12 I loved the interior dish Of the bridge falling down Like a chandelier Yeah Like you know shit is bad When the chandelier falls on the bridge And Mayweather doing like a shoulder roll To get out of the way of it
Starting point is 01:07:24 Yeah Yeah Good situational awareness By a guy who Was presumably very occupied with maneuvering the ship to notice that the chandelier was hanging by a thread getting out of the way. When you know that you don't have to deliver dialogue, you can concentrate on all sorts of other things in your scene. Do you want to see if there's anything worth concentrating on in the priority one inbox?
Starting point is 01:07:48 Oh, yeah, I'm holding it together for that, Ben. Okay. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secured channel. You need a supplemental income. Supplement. Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra.
Starting point is 01:08:02 The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. We got a promotional one here, Adam. Hey! Goes like this. I'm going to get political. Star Trek has always been a socialist and humanistic vision of the future. Funding has been cut to public radio. I am calling for Friends of DeSoto to donate.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Hashtag rascals resist. And the call to action is donate to your local NPR station. Hmm. Ira the Gooch with this message. Fuck yeah. Longtime friend of DeSoto. Absolutely despicable what happened to public radio, and it will, unfortunately, disproportionately affect the most rural stations in the country. I mean, you and I, Adam, have lots of friends in those public radio trenches, and...
Starting point is 01:08:52 We have friends everywhere. Veterans of those public radio trenches, and I couldn't agree with the Gooch more strongly. Like, this is a direct attack on credible information being delivered to people all over the country. So if you've got the means and can do so, I highly encourage you to give a little coin to your local affiliate. I, for one, have stiffened my resolve. I know there are a bunch of public radio folks out there who see the value of these things. We're going to come together and make it happen. We're going to do it.
Starting point is 01:09:30 No one's going to take away our NPR stations. That's just not going to happen. We will save them. We got to. Ben, we got a personal message here. It's from Courtney and it's to Robert. Here's let that goes. Happy 40th birthday, honey bear.
Starting point is 01:09:45 You're aging like a fine Chateau Picard. You're the Jennifer to my Cisco. The ROM to my Lita to my ROM. Whoa. Does that mean exactly, Courtney? Oh, man, the ROM to my Lita, chew my ROM. Hmm. The Bashir to my Garrick.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Hmm. The prophets say to bring your batlet to Terak Boudoir. Hell yeah. Let's pawn far, baby. Wow. Courtney, a very well-written, a very seductive. No kidding. Priority one message here.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Robert. Lucky man. Time to go. Yeah. Time to go, dude. turn off the episode right now if you know what's good for you yeah Courtney well done
Starting point is 01:10:33 well met indeed our last P1 is from Samantha it's too Ben and Adam goes like this hey guys long time listener first time P1er my first episode of the show was Ginger Jesus I was riding my bike and decided to try this new Star Trek podcast I laughed so hard I crashed
Starting point is 01:10:51 I still have a scar on my upper lip whoa I've been listening ever since For nine years, I've never admitted to anyone what caused the crash. It was Dick Valet. Oh, my God. Oh, Samantha. Samantha, what the fuck? Ben, we got to stop doing this show, man.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It hurts people. This was Adam's fault in particular. He definitely said Dick Valet. Yeah, that was me. And on his behalf, I want to say that I'm very sorry for making a Star Trek podcast with him. I want to be clear. Ben apologizes not on my behalf ever. I do not apologize.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Amazing story. Holy shit. Samantha. Damn. What a secret. What a secret. What a thing to be withholding from your friends and relations. Good idea to withhold it, by the way.
Starting point is 01:11:51 That's a smart move by you. But like, you know, not in that. context, we encourage people to share the show with their friends. Like, you know, there's a podcast I really like. You might enjoy it too. Sure. Just don't tell you, it disfigured you. No, unless it's like a cool scar. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Thanks for getting a P1 to everyone who did one this week and highly encourage anyone listening to arrange one themselves. I'm looking at our inventory. We got a lot of availability on greatest gen, which is unusual. We're usually booked several months out.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I think people are going to want to get into this P1 inbox, especially after today's episode. Indeed. Because doing so is a great way to support the production of our show, Maximumfund.org slash jumbotron. Get in there. Hey, Adam. What? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? There's an inner life to Degra in this episode that is totally unscrutinized. Like, what I wanted to see more than anything was for Archer to tell Dallum the thing about the third child. And then I wanted to cut over to the bridge. I wanted to see Degra get told and for him to be like, like to spit out his coffee. Like, I'm Degra. My job is bomb. Like, like, what am I involved with this prisoner bullshit for? And for that to change his
Starting point is 01:13:22 entire life. Yeah. I think a lot is made of that moment where Degra is brought into the cell and he's like... Because he has
Starting point is 01:13:30 no memory of anything going on between him and Archer before. He's never met Archer. There's a way you have to be in front of the prisoner where it's
Starting point is 01:13:38 like tie us up, you're buttoned up, you're being stoic, nothing's going to rattle you. I want to see the part before the rattle. When Degra
Starting point is 01:13:47 permits himself to be like, what the fuck? What? No, guys. There's no third child. What? Everyone knows. I'm two child DeGra.
Starting point is 01:13:58 That's like the main thing about me. Yeah. Like, it's like my whole identity at work. They didn't have time for a last time on. They didn't have time for it to be continued. They didn't have time for that. So I get it. But like I'm going to make my drunk Shimoda DeGra
Starting point is 01:14:12 because there had to have been that moment, the moment that just melts his mind. Yeah. And that we never see the mind melting. deprives us, I think, of a great moment in this episode that we just have to conjure out of our imagination. My drink shemota is, I couldn't quite tell if it was one or two extras on the bridge during the big combat sequence at the end. It might be two guys, but in my, in my heart, it's one guy, because there's a guy that we see get like the traditional Star Trek, my instrument panel exploded, blasted me in the face, and I went ass over tea kettle. over the horseshoe.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And then I think it is that same guy a couple of beats later in the same sequence when a girder falls. He's like just gotten up from being blasted out of his seat and gets up and a girder comes out of the ceiling and takes him out from the back. And I just, man, I loved how that guy was just having like the worst possible day on Star Trek.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I love how understood the girder is as the angel of death on Star Trek. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know what? It's almost like its own character on the show. I love it. Good one, Ben. Faith of the fart.
Starting point is 01:15:35 What a fun episode, Adam. I can't even imagine what we've got coming up next. Is it called Azadi Prime Part 2? Like, this is not a to be continued, so I'm going to say it can't be. No. Our next episode is Season 3, episode 19
Starting point is 01:15:50 damage while dissension among Zindy ranks fester's Enterprise tries to recover from a devastating attack I don't see how the Luke boys are going to get out of this bucket Enterprise is looking pretty bad
Starting point is 01:16:08 yeah it's not not going great for the ship Ben the game of buttholes the will of the caretaker Quantum Leap I rolled the last one It's landed on Square 32. That's a Quarks Bar episode. Really wondering if we're going to experience the next episode in any kind of way.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yeah. A brown wine kind of way, even. We'll see. It could be anything, Adam. That's the thing about the game of buttholes. She's a cruel mistress. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Sometimes she's nice. I'm going to go ahead and roll this hundred-sided dye and see where we land. Do it. Oh, Adam. Narrowly avoided disaster. We're on square 87. Shula! Did I win?
Starting point is 01:17:01 Hardly. Doorstep of that temporal cold war. But a regular old episode for the folks next week. Just looked up Cording Hill Vineyard, a website that hasn't been updated since 2015. Oh, no. What does that mean? But this vintage is 2016. I just want to say at this point, I appreciate everything the Cording Hill Vineyard has provided me.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Up until now, I also want to dedicate this episode to Jimmy Layden, the owner of Cording Hill Vineyard who died in 2021, possibly the reason that we have not gotten an update on this vineyard or its status. by all accounts a great dude who is well loved oh buddy and uh i hope that i'm not drinking the last bottle that could possibly be gotten uh from this great place adam tuck you got to reach out and give us an update let's try and drill down on on the adam tech situation figure out what's going on yeah before adam pranika shuffles loose this mortal coil let's get some advice on on whether or not you should finish this
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Starting point is 01:18:54 Check out that show at Holsom underscore Pond on Patreon. A really special show, I think. People would like it. It's really good. I look forward to it every week. You want to know Ben a little better than what you know about them from Greatest Gen? There's a lot more under the surface. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Let's try and, like, come up with something actually compelling to pitch the people. Ben is weird. How weird? You'll find out on Holesome. With that, we'll be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Enterprise, an episode of the Greatest Generation Enterprise, where I am frantically trying to put Adam Pranica back together after his disastrous run-in with a bottle of brown wine,
Starting point is 01:19:38 just as the crew of the entrepreneur are trying to put their own ship back together. Yeah, I think I'll be okay. I had a brode before this. Good thinking. Yeah. I'm going to keep drinking this. I'm going to keep drinking this wine the rest of the afternoon. I feel awesome right now.
Starting point is 01:20:14 You look awesome, Adam. Maximum Fun. A work-owned network of artist-owned shows. Supported directly by you.

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