The Greatest Generation - Four Octaves of Intelligence Range (S7E19)

Episode Date: September 11, 2017

When Worf fires a photon torpedo that goes off course, Picard and Data go on a road trip to retrieve it. Meanwhile, Dr. Crusher’s cure for Lt. Barclay’s flu ends up being a step in the wrong direction. How many arboretums are there? Is Nurse Ogawa’s relationship moving too fast? Is Kevin coming to Deep Space Nine? It’s the episode that’s a really beautiful tableau.

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I'm Adam Pranaka. I'm Ben Harrison. Broadcasting live from Norfolk, Virginia, I think. Have you been given instructions on how to pronounce the name of that city? Uh, I mean, I think the FCC would frown on me pronouncing it the way I want to. I, uh, I did a little bit of growing up outside of I did a little bit of growing up outside of NAFIC in

Virginia Beach is where I Spent some time up until the fourth grade my my family lived there. I Thought you lived in California until the fourth grade. I don't know why I thought that well I was born in California and then almost immediately moved to Virginia Beach Wow and around the fourth almost immediately moved to Virginia Beach. Yeah. And around the fourth grade we moved to Seattle. Mmm. Yeah, just Chris Croson, these great United States. Yeah.

And what I remember though, from that time, very specifically, is Nafik. Nafik. Which sounds a little bostony, I feel like. Yeah, well there's a suffoc in Boston. I can't wait to see you explain this to a fucking Suffolk County jury, you fucking cock, Saka. This is gonna be fucking fun. Yeah, it sounds suffocated.

It sounds fucking suffocated. Fucking suffocated. And there's a suffoc here. I just spent an entire day in Suffolk. What are you doing in Suffolk fucking suffoc and there's a suffoc here. I just spent an entire day in suffoc What are you doing in Suffolk? Well, I have an NDA so I don't I can't reveal much, but I was I was you won't be able to reveal it until a Future Jordan Jesse go episode I Was actually

Specifically admonished not to call this one into Jordan, Jessica, because the folks that hired me are fans of the show. Really? Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, I got this call that it was like, Hey, can you be in Virginia like the day after tomorrow? And I was like, um, maybe. And I like, I don't know, it worked

out that I could do it. And the lady I talked to, who's a, a, a listener, uh, to the greatest generation, and also Jordan Jessica, uh, said, like, oh, I want you to talk to, like, the founder of the, of the production company. It's just very unusual for us to send somebody on a job that he doesn't know personally. So he just wants to talk to you and get to know you. And by the way, he loves dick jokes. So just feel free to pepper those into the conversation. So first time I've ever been like sent into what is essentially a job interview and told lay the dick jokes on him.

This is actually without going into too much detail, a company that I believe has reached out to you for jobs in the past. And you were like way too busy with your big time production lifestyle. with your big-time production lifestyle. Well, I'm glad you could catch my leaving Ben. Because I tell you what, it's far easier for you to go to NAFUK than me to go to NAFUK. Yeah, these waning days of it being easy for me to go to NAFUK. How much longer are you in Virginia?

I'm just down here for two nights. It was a fly down, wake up in the crack of dawn, shoot all day, sleep one more night and fly back in the morning, type of job, so. Without breaking your NDA, successful shoot. You make your day? I mean? Yeah. I made my day. It's one of those things where you like send the foot of job and then you just have to like hope it Seems good to the other people. Oh, man. So there's a white glove job. I love a white glove job. I think I think it was

I mean, I was I was pleased with how I How it looked in the camera, but I'm sure you're familiar with this that sometimes you get something in camera and you think, God, that's gonna be great and then you get into the edit and you're like, damn it, I suck. It often works out differently from what you expect

in both directions. Like often something looks great in the camera and you get it up on a monitor and you're like, eh, but, you know, in the other way, like sometimes you'll shoot something in the camera just for coverage and it ends up being your favorite shot in the edit, so. Funny how that works.

Well Adam, things work out very strangely in this episode we came here to review. Why don't we do that thing now? That's one of the all-time great pivots to show, Ben. I think when TNG wraps up for us and they do the clip show where they go over the highlights of our podcast. Who's they? You're just talking about... you're making more work for us right now. No, I think what I'm proposing is that someone else makes a podcast about our podcast. And I don't think that should be us.

Too much work. Yeah. Yeah. Too tired Adam. I'm so tired Let's just let's just let's just go to sleep for between two and three weeks after our series finale and then start over after that Adam I'm a I'm a try-hard only child. I can't I can't allow that All right, I want to talk about one of my favorite episodes of the series, Bennett Season 7, episode 19. Genesis. Adam, Riker fucked somebody in a cactus patch. Ben, I think my primary question in this open is Ben, I think my primary question in this open is, they're at separate like sex arboretum that only writer knows about,

because the only arboretum we've seen is like a koi pond and a couple of ferns. This is that thing we discussed in that episode that largely took place in the arboretum with the children. It's like when Kaka was on the ship, the arboretum seemed like a bigger place. Yeah. And I,

And the next point is that, yeah, he was in the desert portion of the arboretum with the fetching new tactical officer, he says. The other question I had is does six pay not have any private examination rooms? Oh, that's a great. If I, hall, where's the screen? If I was Riker, I wouldn't wanna be in here in public.

Like Riker is the fucking first officer and he's gotta sit there getting a sex wound treated. Well, Berkeley is in there telling everybody about what he found on WebMD. And he's got to sit there getting a sex wound treated well. Barkley is in there telling everybody about what he found on WebMD. Well, here's the thing. If everyone in Six Bay was behind some partition screens, you would fail to get the frenetic directorial pace that gates McFadden is giving this scene.

It is, it is straight up like cold open in ER style. Like the ER is flooded with patients. Dr. Kresher is triaging everyone and the camera is just bounding from place to place. It's a really lively scene and it's very it's very cool that this is Gates McFadden's directoral debut and finale on this show. But like, you know, she takes kind of a backseat as a character in this episode, but she is front and center in the most complicated sequence of the app. I mean, we've talked about cast members directing for the first time. And I think most in most cases,

they choose to have their characters not be fully present or present at all in the episode. And occasionally they won't be very flashy, but holy shit, Gates McFadden, moving the camera around everywhere, a lot of foreground background complexity, like a lot of Holy shit, Gates McFadden moving the camera around everywhere. A lot of foreground background complexity, like a lot of strange and different compositions that we haven't seen before. She definitely has an idea for most scenes

and she goes for it every time. I was blown away. Yeah, a plus Gates McFadden. And it feels really different. It feels like a fun new way to tell a Star Trek story. She does a thing fairly often in this episode where people move toward the camera and away from it in a way that I'm not used to seeing before.

Most of the time the camera moves with the people. And the screen is just positively filled with people too. Like, there are some episodes like the last episode where it doesn't seem like anyone else is on the ship besides the senior staff. Yeah. But tons of extras throughout. It's like a curassawa scene. Like the way she composes the frame with people. It's crazy. Yeah. So there's a bunch of things going on in six bay riker Got into a a little roll in the hay and the hay was up cactus

Barkley that hay fucks back Barkley's doing some real like hypochondriac shit where he you you know, got some bad information out of the computer about how he has Tarellian death syndrome, which will go down in history as the dumbest Star Trek disease name of all time. Is it of or related to the Tarellians from season one, who had that ship that, Oh, with those Tarellians?

I think that's what that alien was called Tarerellions. Wow. And they were quarantined. Like is that is the death syndrome? What they had? They're quarantined for a disease that appeared to just make them kind of dewy. They're disease involves the midriff. Yeah, you know, crutches like you don't have that, you have something else, here's a little something for it. And data walks in with spot. I hate cats.

Davis cats. Spot. I love cats. And spot is fat with kittens. She's gonna be a cat mama in the next few days, and then Nersogawa admits that she is gonna be a new mama herself in the next few months. Things moved kind of fast with her and her boyfriend. Yeah, when did they get together?

Beginning of this season? I feel like it was only a few episodes ago. She was like, I don't think he likes me anymore. He's working a lot. Weird. Beverly is totally fucking pumped. Like Beverly's more excited than Ogawa. Ogawa plays these things pretty close to the vest, I feel like. I think this is also the first episode where we see Troy holding down a shift on the bridge. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. It's like season seven like other episodes also happened. It's maybe the most self-aware season of all of them. Yeah, it's amazing. Well anyways, where season of all of them. Yeah, it's amazing.

Well, anyways, this all goes down and we push to tidal sequins. And when we come back, the entrepreneur is pulling up to a field of asteroids, and they are going to use these asteroids in the way that hillbillies use cans on picket fences for target practice. And I guess the idea is that they've upgraded all of their weapon systems and Wurf is like really, he's really like, you know, chest out like I have enhanced the targeting system for increased accuracy.

This is gonna be a lot of fun guys, and they start shooting and one, two, three torpedoes get let loose. And two of them connect. And one of them just kind of like fierce off course. And it's off on a wild use chase. And Picard's like, well, we gotta get that thing back. We can't just let that thing fly around. And Picard and data are going to go on a road trip and hunt down this torpedo in a

Previa. Was that the torpedo that was filled with snakes? I wouldn't have kept that. Where did the snakes go? Like are they scrubbing the scorch marks out of engineering? Did they have to put the ship back together in that episode? Like, a lot of it got turned into other things, right? Yeah.

Like, I think at the end of masks it all went away magically, but I don't know if, like, if a fire was an engineering, the fire goes away, but I don't think the scorch marks do. But do like, does the terracotta totem that shows up in Troy's room that's made out of matter from the rest of the ship, does it go away and like that matter goes back to where it was? Because if so, I mean those snakes like turned back into warhead, right?

It's so clear that the canonical masks averse on the show, we're filled with questions about it. I mean, we could do an entire podcast episode about it. About the episode masks, yeah. We probably could. Yeah, podcast episode about it. About the episode masks. Yeah, we probably could. Yeah. That's my thinking. So Worf is like his fucking pissed and he goes down to 10 forward. I kind of got the sense that he was also pissed that data left the ship

and left spot in Lieutenant Barkley's hands. That used to be a worst job, you know. I wouldn't trust Barkley with a goldfish. I know. He seems like a terrible house sitter, a terrible pet sitter. Or if it's not gonna be psyched about looking after spot, but he knows how to do it. I think everyone's getting a turn with spot is the thing. Yeah, you gotta, I mean, like, when we go out of town and we have to like, leave our dog, we do try to rotate him through the friend,

so nobody is getting disproportionately stuck with the duty, you know, both literally and figuratively. But, uh, Lord was down in six bay and he's like, he's having his, he's like stress eating. He's got, he's just replicated everything and is eating all of it. And he's, uh, he's sitting there and Troy comes in and she's like, hey, like, thanks for waiting for me. Aren't we supposed to be on a date? And they're just both acting super weird at him. Wolf has replicated a bunch of those Disneyland turkey legs with a side of octopus. Two

great tastes that taste great together. Yeah, he's literally replicated all the things. It's real nasty. Yeah, he's a messy eater for sure. And Troy's side is up to him, and she's like downing her thermos of water. Wonder if the environmental controls are set properly. And it's like, I cannot believe how thirsty I am right now.

And also, I would like to eat caviar. Do we have any of that caviar that we spread all over our turkey? I'd like to get some of that. And then she starts going to town on a cup of caviar, like with a spoon. Ben, is that how you eat caviar? Like, just, you just spoon it in? I'm asking because I've never had it before.

I've never had beluga caviar. I've had like, cheap, plain old caviar. Yeah, I think you like, you like put a little bit on a cracker. That's kind of a nice way to eat it. I don't know. I feel like a Baluga caviar maybe is too fancy to put on a cracker, but I wouldn't know. Troy foregoes the cracker though. Yeah. She's eating it like she's like she eats chocolate. A little gross. Like gross in her own way is how she's eating. They're both eating grossly. gross in her own way is how she's eating. They're both eating grossly.

Hahaha. And so like the deal is, the gang is in a bad way. And they're like, acting increasingly weird and like nobody is noticing it until like a bunch of shit like hits the six bay all at once. And it's like, you know, some people think it's too hot other people think it's too cold Worf is in there and he's got like new loaf on the side of his neck and and crushers like what is this and he opens his mouth and sprays venom all over

her face. This whole scene is so disgusting. It's the makeup work on the Venom sack is awesome. It's so gross looking. It looks tender and painful. Yeah. I don't know how they did it, but like this whole scene just makes me cringe. I saw an old man in this supermarket

with one of those a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Did he spray you in the face? Now I just made sure not to buy anything in the vegetable section that he had like gone through. It's really like testing out all the avocados and I was like, no avocados for me, thanks. Dr. Crusher goes down like the girl in the Canadian PSA talking about kitchen safety.

I should have cleaned up the grease over there. It's one of the most terrifying images in the whole series I want to say. It's very upsetting. Like it just comes out of left field and it is so freaky, deaky, how she reacts to it. There's a scene before this where there have and some issues in a Jeffries tube that's that Barclay and Jordy investigate

and there's an aliens-style acid hole in it. Yeah. And when you see Wurf spray his acid in this scene, you put together that Wurf, I guess, has been cruising around the ship, spitting acid at stuff? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Like, why?

Why they're in particular Wurf? Ha, ha, ha. I guess this happens after he gets up out of bed. Like he has a night terror and he rips the stuffing out of his bed and makes like a stuffing nest on the floor. He's not sleeping great. No. I guess I guess he sleeps so poorly he gets up and and sprays acid around the ship. It's so weird that they have no security cameras

in any Jeffries tubes though. Yeah, why didn't they just watch the earlier part of the episode, the Joe Dwarf, going on a little Jeffries tube sojourn to spray acid at things? Tell you what, man, you see an acid hole in a Jeffries tube really makes you think about what an aliens TNG crossover would be like. Fucking hey! Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's also just like a lot of fun stuff for the different characters to do.

Like, I love that Riker gets dumber and dumber. to do. I love that Riker gets dumber and dumber. Barkley gets more and more manic because he's getting increasingly spiter-y. There's a great Troy wanting to turn up the heat and humidity and wharf wanting to turn it down, which is a classic workplace dispute, you know. There's a thing about Jonathan Freik's face that like he can, he can look so charismatic and great, but if he just slacks his jaw a little bit and like stares up in the middle distance, it looks so dumb. It looks the dumbest. He's got so much intelligence range, you know? Yeah, he's got like four actors of intelligence range. He's the Mariah Carey of intelligence. There's a lot of like find eat like for as broad as some characters get to play this there's also

some like find detail work like oh gala acts very subtly primate like like like in her little santa walk out of the McLaughlin group yeah yeah jordie is in a ton of scenes early on in this episode and then he just disappears total bullshit man this is bullshit I wonder what he turns into yeah I And a ton of scenes early on in this episode and then he just disappears. Bullshit, man. It's just bullshit. I wonder what he turns into. Yeah, I wondered if they just ran out of loaf budget because there is a lot of special

loaf in this app. And I can't imagine it's cheap to redesign as many characters as they did. So, this is all like, all going to shit and Picard and Data show back up in their, in their shuttle. And they're like, they're like flying around. They're like, wow, the entrepreneur is not where we expected to find it. Oh, but it's over here and it's like upside down. I really love this time jump. The jump in time, the jump in perspective. Yeah. The listing enterprise looks so creepy. The enterprise appears to be at drift. It's something I wonder about all the time, like why are all ships like clearly observing

the same vertical in the galaxy when that's not a- I wish you hadn't said that, Ben. What? You're gonna get like 400 emails now. What? Captain, we're receiving 285,000 hares. No, I don't know why either i'm just saying that four hundred people are gonna email you with their theory

well they're with their theories are ridiculous they shouldn't be they shouldn't be doing that but like one of the reasons i think is that the ship looks so weird from a weird angle like this you know yeah there made to be looked at from a weird angle like this. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So, there made to be looked at from a certain angle. I mean, I think that the film that we just toured had a lot of fun with turning your local vertical upside down when Picard and Orp and Captain Red shirt

walked across the bottom of the saucer section. But yeah, it like makes no sense. It's only justifiable from a creative standpoint because we are used to having there be a right way up. Really cool scene here where they sort of like, they tell the shuttle computer to match the telemetry of the listing enterprise and just sort of guide it in.

I don't just ram it in there like that. And they arrive in the shuttle bay, and the shuttle bay is all dark and kicked. Things are looking like a haunted house in there. Like they're on reserve power. They're here in animal noises. It's crap all over the floors. Spider webs everywhere.

It's a mess. And it's just kind of a mystery. They have no information about what's going on. And I think that's the scariest thing. They don't know if the ship got taken over or if somebody attacked them or if everybody was abducted, but they know that there's a lot of animals around. They agreed to hoof it up to the bridge, where they find, they find the guy at the helm just totally vivisected,

basically, like. Looks as though he's been attacked by an animal. He has died in about his gory away as that is possible on syndicated television. Yeah. Like he looks like he's been attacked by a bear. Like you couldn't actually show this attack because there would be too much blood.

You can show the aftermath of it though. Like if Werner Herzog were listening to the attack in some sort of weird captain's log, he would tell everyone that they must never listen to the tale. Oh, how would that sound out of? True, you must never listen to the tale. Oh, how would that sound at him? True, you must never listen to this. I don't have a burner in my repertoire, Ben. I think you do, but I don't. Oh, I have the world's shittiest burner, it's like...

Just off the bridge, they hear a banging from the ready room that they go and banging from the ready room that they go and investigate. And there is a crow magnon riker inside with like who has somehow become even more hairy. He's giving them the finger before being phaser blasted, like twice by data when he tries to attack Picard on his couch. I've normally Picards the one doing the attacking on his couch. Hey, I feel like they really saved Reikers butt here because if Reiker had gotten at that super deadly fish, he would be dead.

be dead. That fish turned into a jellyfish though. Oh, did it? But maybe it's a very deadly jellyfish. Yeah, Livingston de-evolved also. Oh, shit, I didn't notice that. Like all the pets de-evolved too. Jellyfish can be extremely deadly though. Especially if it is a prehistoric jellyfish I imagine. Yeah. So they go down to Six Bay and I think that they have worked out basically what's going on by this point, which is that they reach D.A.Volving into earlier forms of life on their home worlds. Everybody's DNA has like things in it that are not expressed genes, but

are just kind of like relics of earlier stages of evolution. And for some reason, all of this stuff is starting to get turned on for everybody on the ship. and they are starting to devolve into earlier creatures. And so Troy is turning into a frog woman and Riker obviously is turned into crow magnum. Nersogawa is like a, is like in on a biopad as like a cave woman. I'll cover it with hair. She's got kind of like a little bit of planet of the ape's vibes going on. This might be the most impressive makeup though. Who looks the best and who looks the worst,

do you think, in the makeup department? I might place Spider-Barkly at the bottom. Oh really? That really freaked me out. And then it's totally freaky, but he clearly looks prosthetic-y. Yeah. Warp looks terrifying. Warp from the other side of Six Base starts banging on the door. Warp is very scary. He's got like armor plating. He's got like the scariest exoskeleton. And yeah.

And Picard is kind of starting to lose it here. He's like the effects of this of this virus that are causing everybody to devolve are impacting Picard. Data's like, sorry bro, but you're also devolevolving and you're probably gonna end up like a hamster. Ha ha ha ha ha. Picard is so sad to hear that he's gonna turn into like a lemur or marmissette. Like, oh, what an indignity. The indignity of all indignity is that.

Yeah, there's nothing less captain-like than a pygmy marmissette. Ha ha ha ha. But yeah, so they realized that what Wurf wants is to bang frog Troy, and frog Troy, they know this because he bit Troy on the face at some point, and that is like a Klingon bone in ritual. And so they distilled some sex pheromones from Troy and put it in a hyposprae. And the idea is that Picard is going to lead monster wharf away from Six Bay. Well, data works out how to treat this virus. So he starts spraying it in the hallways and is like, you know, trying to divert

him to, wharf down one corridor and get on an elevator, but uh, but wharf finds him and it's like, there's a great like, you know, just getting the elevator door closed in time suspense scene. The amount of fear directed at wharf is like dinosaur like you like you can hear him stomping you can hear him roaring He is totally monstrous Yeah, and that guy had dyno damage on the bridge like it's very Jurassic Parky and They sort of veil him in darkness too. He's never totally lit and I think that really works in the favor of the fear. I wondered if this was the same or a similar costume to the one that we also don't really see that much of in the Darmak episode. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, they do look similar. It's that kind of like there's like, you know,

nubs and horns and spikes everywhere and they're kind of like some predator protrusions out of the face. Yeah, I don't know. It was a thought I had but I don't have any way of researching it. So we'll just leave that there. Maybe somebody else can tell us if we're right or wrong. Hey, try to bundle your corrections all in one email if you can. I think that'd be great. It'd really help us process those emails. I would say that the number one downside of having anybody care about this podcast is that anytime we get anything a little bit wrong, we don't hear about it once, we hear it, I bet it a dozen times. Yeah, that's certainly not something where you stoop in in any part of our lives.

Yeah, doesn't sound like my marriage at all. I thought it was interesting that not only did Picard demonstrate the traits of, you know, like prey traits, right? The hyper-awareness, the fearfulness, but it almost felt like he wanted to be prey, right? Like he volunteered for the job to distract Proto-Worf and get him away from six base so data could do the work. Did you think, what did you think about that? Because if he was true prey, it seems like he would be too scared to do anything except hide.

I think that that's like he's in that transitional phase. He's like not totally given over to the Crow Magnen Riker mindset, but he's starting to slip toward that, which I think is a cool place for a character to be, because you get to play the subtleties of that. So Picard leads him to the Jeffries tube that we saw early on in the episode, the one with the acid hole in it. And totally jumper cables the floor.

Yeah, they took it. And electrocute him. That bypassed the Berkeley and Journey did was just establishing that there would be a loose cable with electricity coming out. So that worth could be zapped. This seems profoundly dangerous. Yeah, how does Picard know

Wharf isn't gonna die? How does Picard know that the panel is, like does not conduct electricity? That's a metal panel, Adam. It should conduct electricity. It's a great scene. It's super exciting. Yeah, they just... It doesn't work, though. They just should have had, like, a yoga mat or something, not a panel. This goose chase allows data the time to finish the project of the retro virus. The idea behind it is they found the kittens that Spot had in data's quarters,

but they find Spot and Spot is an iguana with a cat collar. And so they're like, huh, maybe there's something in amniotic fluid that protects babies from this virus, and they discovered that nurse O'Gawa's baby is fine despite being in a cave woman. And so they reverse engineer a retro virus based on the amniotic fluid. And so data just puts it in the air, and it gets pumped out into the ship, and everybody goes back to normal. And they like get to like kind of sum up the episode with like the fun science

premise of it. And then Dr. Crusher lays it on Barkley that he's going to have a disease named after him. How about Barkley's photomorphic syndrome? And we get the like laugh line to episode of Troy saying, I better clear my calendar. That's probably the drop we'll use there. Is there any reason Ben that everyone shouldn't have crazy stretch marks from this? Like, especially Worarf, right? Like wharf has grown three sizes too big. Troy has had gills and now does not.

Like, they should be scarred to health, right? Like, you don't just genetically change someone and then change someone back and then like, is there something about scarification that can be genetically removed? and then like, is there something about scarification that can be genetically removed? Well, they do say that. Like, I understand you can't just leave everyone totally fucked.

Like, I understand that practically. But they do get past the fact that the doctor got her face acid it off by saying, she's gonna need reconstructive surgery, but she'll be fine. So I guess the implication is that everybody will have reconstructive surgery. They will have to schedule 1,012 reconstructive surgeries. Oh God. You better hope you're a senior officer or otherwise that way it's going to be a lot. Yeah. Yeah. you're just some unlucky

schmo up in the starboard in a cell with a bunch of stretchy skin hanging off you. I mean, if you are not feeling super confident about your looks, W slash R slash T acne or otherwise, I think, I think the cell duties probably pretty great shift to get. Yeah, you only have one other person to look at you there and if you need to end it all, there's a plasma duct right there. I know what I have to do. Yeah, there's a convenient way to go. Did you like this episode, Ben? Yeah, there's a convenient way to go.

Did you like this episode, Ben? I love this episode. Big fan! Season 7 really has some fun episodes. It really does. Season 7, a season which has gotten a lot of shit before we started, has very quietly had really great episodes and really bad ones. And I would rather have a season like this than a season that Basically is a constant C plus throughout you know, yeah

They really go for it. They really go for it. I love that Gates McVadden directed that directed it that made it more fun for me to watch And yeah, just overall, I thought it was, it was an episode that knew why it was gonna be fun, you know. I am not just happy that Gates got her shot. I'm really thrilled that she was so bold in her choices. Like, a lot of it's very busy, and a lot of it is very look at me style direction,

but it is an interesting direction on top of an interesting story, and it makes a really great episode that way. This feels like it's mountain worthy to me. It's at least one of the high points in season 7. I totally agree. Ben, one of the high points in every episode is the reading of priority one message. You want to do that?

Let us do that. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement on it? supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. Ben our first priority one message is from Brian it is for future Brian and it goes like this remember when the show is halfway over and you decided to send yourself a message here it is you finally caught up to the point at which you sent the message.

I hope life is going well and you still enjoy watching this show. Ben Adam. You guys are great! Shout out to the referers Jake and Sean. And it says insert Kevin Uxbridge bit here. In parentheses. Brian, you know that you can't just insert an X-bridge wherever you want.

If my presence was something that happened in every episode, people would go tired of me and I would go away forever. Potentially that is what has already happened. Potentially the host of the show have lost touch with what isn't as not funny. Between you and me and future you and me, I'm really hoping I get to go along to the deep space 9 portion of the program, but I'm really not sure if I'm invited. You ever get invited to a party, and if you don't show up,

this really matter. I could deadluck. Dauge are not great party guests, even though I have great appetizers that I love to bring to my friends and relatives. Even though with a passing thought I could end everything for all of them. I wind up standing in a corner Wondering how to strike up a conversation with anybody Trying to come up with conversational premises in my mind and talking them through with myself inside my own head And then by the time I actually Bring something up to somebody it just seems so overbaked and they just walk away

I could kill billions of people with a single threat and yet I Can I take that first step to crash a crowded room Talk to you an attractive older lady that looks vaguely like Richard Adam like we're shown. Adam, I don't know how to explain anyone's message. I was willing to go as far as possible until you ended it. This from Sarah and it is for present day Ivan. Oh, another time traveling one. And this says Ivan, his arms wide, Sarah at rest, Ivan, his arms open. Sarah at rest. Ivan, his arms open. Sarah at rest. Shaka when the walls fell.

Ivan, his face black. Eyes red. His heart open. Sarah, her eyes open. Ivan and Sarah at Tanagra. Ivan, Sarah, orbit, and Gwen on the ocean. Oh, let's see, I have extra characters. Please say Exocomp seven times, or as many times as you can stick here.

Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp. I think that was seven. Tathons, one of your strongest impressions. Oh, that's a damning with faint praise, Adam. Yep. Well, Adam, if people want to send priority one messages of their own, they can go to maximumfund.org, slash Jembo Tron, where personal messages are $100

and commercial messages are $200. And we'd really appreciate them because they help us to afford to make this show. Not many episodes left, Ben. I think almost the entire end of Next Gen are filled up with ads, so if you were thinking of sneaking one in before the end, get on it. I would be surprised if the end of Next Gen is entirely sold through by the time this comes out. But, uh, no reason not to, uh, get jump on the beginning of Deep Space 9. Yeah, be an early adapter. To that train wreck. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Hey Ben. What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drug Shimoda? I had such a hard time.

This is an episode where my Shimoda cup run a thover. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's data, it's barkly, it's dwarf, it's Troy, it's Picard, it's Riker. Like, it's basically everybody but the doctor. This episode is so much like the naked now, I thought. It really is, it's like, what if the naked now wasn't a turd? Right, and like for that reason, I'm giving my Shimoda to the entire episode.

As Shimoda came from the naked now episode, so too is this episode like a cousin to that. It really is. And it is totally wacky, dude. And the episode itself is having so much fun that, yeah, I mean, to me, the Shimoda is the whole app. Yeah, I feel the same way. I think we're gonna have to call that a daily double.

Yeah, I think so too. Dabok and Jalap, and Dinarga. A greatest gen live show is something you don't wanna miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, I'd make a pretty great name for a tour. Let's do it! The Share Your Embarrassment Tour is coming in August 2023,

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Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead. Oh, rats. Hey, hey, hey, oh, I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line. And boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art.

It's about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal,

stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two. What do you think? Ona Ross & Kerry, available on MaximumFun and Outdoor. Band, do we have anything nearly as weird coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season 7, episode 20, Journey's End.

The card is forced to relocate American Indians from a planet they have settled, while a colonist causes Wesley to re-examine his future. Do you remember this episode Adam? In the distance a pan flute player warms up. He's got a lot of work to do. Yeah. Yeah, I remember this is being the like good bye to Wesley, yep. It is. Yeah, I remember having kind of complicated feelings about the, I mean, like, I have very complicated feelings about the way Voyager deals with its Native American character. And I don't remember if this episode is as ham-fisted with that or not, but yeah, like, this is a series that doesn't traditionally have a great take on Native American culture,

so it should be at least interesting to review this one. Oh boy. If this episode that we just reviewed is Season Seven's Naked Now, I hope that the next episode is not Seafers and Heaven's Code of Honor. Just put it that way. Oi! Oh man!

That's quite a lead in. Well Adam, one way we lead out is by telling people to follow us on Twitter. You're on there as at Cut for Time. I'm on there is at Benjamin R. A. H. R. And you can use the hashtag greatest gen to find all the wise cracks and jokes and memes on there. And if you decide that you don't want to be a part of our social media, you don't need to reach out and tell us about it. That's a dick thing to do. It just makes us feel bad for no reason. It is a total opt-in thing. Just leave in silence if you're gonna leave.

What the fuck? What the actual fuck? We also have a really wonderful Facebook community, and we have a great Reddit community as well. Those are just rays of sunshine on social networking services that are sometimes not. So go check those out. And yeah, it's a good place to be. We should thank Dark Materia for our theme music and Adam and Gusia, Rags for our other music.

I don't know if you heard just- I'm going to keep calling him the goose. I did listen to his latest episode of The Pub where he interviews Jesse Thorn. We got, I guess you could call it a shout out at the end of that episode. Yeah, we basically got put on blast for calling him the goose when also our friend Chris Bowman is the goose. I call him both legs because that is a nickname that is associated to his last name. And that's the only kind of nickname I like to give. So maybe if Chris Bowman's last name was Gooseinger or something

he could be called the Goose. But because it's not I'm calling Adam Ragusey of the Goose. Man, you're only right. You and Jesse Thorne should start a who's a better nickname or battle podcast. It'll be like Iron Chef but forgiving out nicknames. The idea that Jesse and I could co-host a podcast is the idea of that is incredible. I would love that so much. I think I would try his patience almost immediately. The poor guy does not need any more migraine. He really doesn't. I am basically

a human migraine. Well with that we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek the next generation. An episode of the greatest generation that is taking some psychoactive cactuses and to go into the sweat lodge I guess Make it sound. Maximumfund.org Comedy and culture. Artist-owned. Listener-supported. you