The Greatest Generation - Freshening up the Hallway as She Goes (VOY S6E23)

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

When Burlap Kes shows back up on Voyager, time travel is her motivation for a trip down memory lane. But when Prime Kes convinces herself that she wasn’t groomed by Captain Janeway, she finally warms up to the idea of returning home. Which planet has the slowest orbit around its star? Why aren’t Vidiians interested in Ocampa guts? What do plants in the airponics bay crave? It’s the episode that has a few new security measures to suggest.Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

William Shatner wrote, directed, and starred in the fifth Star Trek film in the winter of his 57th year. Over the next three decades, the film has been pilloried as one of the worst entries in the series. But when Shatner had fallen on hard times becoming primarily known as a television pitchman for a travel booking website, The recent share your embarrassment tour earned him a sudden, unexpected second run at celebrity. Well, everyone knows that Star Trek V is a catastrophic failure of a film that nearly ended the franchise.

What this tour presupposes is, maybe it isn't. Let me ask you something. Why would a reviewer make a point of saying someone is not a genius? Do you think I'm especially not a genius? You didn't even have to think about that. Did you? The share your embarrassment tour. Coming to just a few more cities this year.

Tickets still on sale at greatestgendtour.com. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your back, shot. I'm Luke. I'm Captain Captain. I'm Brinjane where the U.S. is. Boy, I'm dirt. I'm Captain Captain. I'm Brinjane where the U.S. is.

Boy, I'm dirt. I'm Duet Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranaka. I'm Ben Harrison. I did a surprising thing at a live show. I think it caught you off guard.

I regret doing it. I introduced you before me. Oh yeah. Yeah, we usually go on stage and say our names. Yeah, but you said my name. And then I had to say your name. I wanted to set the tone that anything could happen. Leave your preconceptions at the door. Did you regret it?

Cause I didn't pick the ball up and run with it. I felt like I picked the ball up. I thought you grabbed that ball. Yeah, no, I didn't regret it at all. Okay. That was a great tone setter. Okay, good, good. We've been having a ton of fun on the ball. I thought you grabbed that ball. Yeah, no, I didn't regret it at all. That was a great tone setter. Okay, good, good. We've been having a ton of fun on the road. Good shows all over the East Coast.

Yeah, a little peek behind the pod. We've just returned from a week out with four shows in the previous week, like the week just before this episode drops. We will have just come back from St. Louis and Austin. Mm-hmm. And we will have had tremendous, super successful shows in those places, I am sure.

Yeah, it's no doubt. I mean, what we can promise is fun. They've all been really fun. At some point on tour, you said that you were like reminding me to like get my gear before we left the venue or something. And I was like, thanks. I probably would have forgotten that if you hadn't reminded me and you were like, I'm

here to remind you to get all your shit. And you're here to remind me that this is fun. I thought that was a pretty spot on statement. Was that not? No, I agree. It just makes me a little bit sad that sometimes you forget that this is fun. I mean, it sometimes makes me sad that you sometimes forget stuff. That's what makes us the, the Yen-in-Yang of the whole thing.

Yeah. Yeah. It's more fun for me when we have other shit. Yeah. It runs in my family. My father is a thing, forgetter. And I like him and a thing, forgetter. Yeah, yeah. One time my parents drove down here from the Bay area

and they have an electrical car. So they had to stop somewhere and charge. And my dad left like two of their suitcases. Why don't you leave the car on charge? My dad left two of their suitcases at the charging station, like three hours north of LA, and they didn't find out until they got to LA, so he had to drive all the way back up there and get them. The logistics of this baffle me, because the idea of getting the suitcases out while

you're waiting to charge, like, I get that. Maybe you've got something in your churletry bag back there. You need to retrieve, but leave them out there. This suggests that you set the luggage away from the car in such a way that you would not see the luggage when you left your spot. Yeah, I don't know how it happened either, but it's, you know, it's not not me. I can't, I can't drag my dad for this behavior because for sure 100% whatever the gene that determines leave us leave a suitcase somewhere I have. Do you think that's nature and that nurture? I think it's 100% nature.

I don't know. It gave me so much anxiety growing up. All of the things getting lost all the time. Yeah. And like all the being late. I didn't get the being late gene. My dad has the being late gene also. Like the, oh yeah, we got plenty of time.

And then like, I don't think we walked into a movie theater, not mid-previews rolling, and credits my entire childhood. I never saw all of the previews until I started going to the movies myself. Oh, and that was peak preview time. Yeah. In those days. Yeah, back when it would be like, in a world.

Back when you got like three previews and now you can count on like a half an hour of previews. It's this perfect for your dad situation. Yeah. No, the world has changed to accommodate him. But but it drove me absolutely crazy, you know. The world did not change to accommodate a character on the show we're here to talk about Ben. No, no. And she's pissed. She's very cranky, very interesting episode of Star Trek Voyager today.

But I think we should stop dancing around it and get right into it. Yeah, let's put our hands on the core of this episode, Bennett Star Trek Voyager Season 6 Episode 23, furry. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. This cold open really gives you a sense of how many Gears Kate Mugru has. I really love this because she is so pissed.

You rarely see her this pissed that it kind of gives away the ending a little bit. Yeah, like you can see her being this mad at like Tom Paris or even maybe Chicote, but this amount of pissed. It's like trying to snap a connects onto a Lego, you know, they're not designed for each other. Her being this pissed at two Vock. Then I really don't know if this happens, but if Tom Paris ever gets his pit back, will his cake look like a giant pip? I would love that. That golden fondant, super flat top and sharp corners.

It's like a tough one to replicate. This was always something that I feel like Tom and Harry were hassling too, Valkybout, like when, like how old he is and when his birthday is. Yeah, they did foreshadow this a little bit. People have been wondering. But it took Janeway and her brilliant mind of a scientist to get to the bottom of it. So it's not long before you hit the big three digits, huh? Indeed. Our birthdays always measured the same, both from the base and also how many orbits your planet takes around its sun. Oh. And wouldn't that suggest that ages aren't really a number?

Hmm. In the same way that they are here? Yeah, I don't know. It's really weird that she does a human birthday ritual at him to celebrate her finding out about his birthday. You must believe things there is important as I do. Hahaha. Otherwise, we can't be friends.

The shocking revelation is that he's won. He's got that one birthday candle. You know, in an episode about Kess, that's real fun. I guess Vulcan really takes its time getting around that star. Yeah, it's a slow mover. This is one tall candle sticking out of this erotic boob cake. I guess that's an endorian boob cake. Hi, welcome to sexy cakes, the erotic bakery. Oh, yeah. When Janeway leaves him behind, you know, he's just gonna Rub his own face into that thing That is not a vulcan customer because is that the promise of the erotic cake is that you're gonna mess around with it

I don't know I still don't know. Yeah, it's very sexy. I've never even been in a room with an erotic cake Mostly when I see videos of them, it's people sitting on them though. Right. Is that what VOR is? I still don't know what VOR is. I'll tell you when you're older. I was really stressed for TuVoc

having to like leave that cake in Janeway's office when they come out to the bridge. Like nobody has an eye line to it, but I wanted to go day to be like, oh, what's the cake for? What are we celebrating? They definitely smell the candle smoke, right? Yeah.

How could they not? They can smell it on the bridge and they're like, God, the Janeway really just take a dump in your ready room. Did the old match trick? They rid of the stink. She did it with two valk in there. Happy birthday. Weird.

So they're called out under the bridge. They've got a distress signal from an incoming vessel that has one o'compin aboard. Yeah, we don't see many of those. Not way out here. Yeah. So, they get a hail from this vessel and on screen appears burlap kiss. You treat Voyager like a lady.

She'll always bring you home. She seems real tired. She's doing like that droopy eye thing. Maybe she's high. Maybe she's like totally baked. Is that why her eyes are drooping like that? Please, let me get my board. We had such a weird ride share driver while we were out on tour,

like as soon as we get inside, he's like, hey, pay no mind to my crazy bloodshot eyes. I promise, I'm not high. I had not looked at this man's eyes. I mean, I know that that sort of betrays that I don't really look people in the eyes much, but I had not considered that he might be high until he started talking about how he wanted us to not worry that he was high.

Yeah, I feel like that could have been an angle that old cast takes here. Yeah, yeah. The that could have been an angle that Old Kess takes here. Yeah, yeah. The pace of this scene is really amazing, right? Because you see her and you aren't in that shock of, oh my God, it's Old Kess. She's old. What the hell happened to her face?

Before she's like, I gotta come aboard, no time to explain. And then like as they're even thinking about the idea of this, she zooms on in there. Yeah. Right on in there. How old do a compens get? Is this like realistic amount of aging for an O'Compah of her age? There's a couple scenes with Naomi Wildman that make me think, like, if she's aware of how fast Kess ages and if she were ever to encounter old Kess, that would be traumatizing, right? I'm gonna look like you in like five years.

Whoah! The ship is facing them as she makes this request to be my board. And they're like, yeah, yeah, we'll get the like docking ring ready so that you can connect up. But she just speeds up, crashes into the ship. And they get a really amazing effect shot of her walking down a hallway after having wedged her ship into the front of Voyager, presumably. She's doing that thing where she's freshening up the hallway behind her.

It's an action movie. Freshening up the hallway as she goes. Very scary. After the theme the bangers haven't stopped and they're actually growing on all decks. They get worse and worse, but they're like, oh, thank God, she's headed right for the warp core, which is where we keep our most dangerous thing. So nothing bad is

going to happen. This scene where she walks through a force field, I think really says a lot in a very short amount of time about just how powerful she is. Like even more than causing all the freshening up, that was the moment to me that was like, she's not going to be taken down by phaser rifles or anything to me that was like, she's not going to be taken down by phaser rifles or anything. It's clear she's very powerful from all of these scenes, but because she's wearing a robe and she's old, it's also clear she's very cold. Yeah, she's chilly as hell. She's angrily heading to the thermostat. Does anyone have a blanket? She makes it to the warp core and

easily disarms seven and BLT and gets over to the core itself and puts her hands right on it. The warp core is sharing its power with her and she's gaining strength from the sharing. Peel T runs over and tries to like shut the warp core down or something and catches some warflightening for her trouble. Yeah. Kess is glowing while touching, eventually disappears. And seven, you know, radios up to the bridge like,

hey, so some bad news. Kess has disappeared and BLT is dead. RSVP. Now seven and BLT haven't gotten along for the entire run, right? There's to be a little bit of seven that's like, oh, so that happened. like, oh, so that happened. Did you detect like relief or sadness on Tom Parris's face at this moment? That's a great question.

Yeah. Parris does not volunteer to leave his station at this moment because it's like a, it's kind of a blank face like look up and absorb this news. But it's not a like, absorb this horrible news necessarily. Am I making any sense here? You could kind of read it as as Paris is like,

man, like I'm gonna give one of those Delaney sisters a call, I think. He's such a pro though. He didn't even leave his post. Well, the others fled. He stayed at his post. So we cut back to engineering now, and Cass reappears, and she's still all burlapy. But then she like backs away from the warp core, and the burlap disappears, and she's got

like a season one Cass outfit on. Of course, it's locked in. But... This one to me, very careful, because I'm a man to say this once. There are some parts of this episode that aren't easily peniturable due to its visual language, but I really liked this sequence. The like, Kest disappears, Kest reappears in the same place. And like the context change is just Jane way burn and and BLT being alive. Yeah. And I like the way the the time travel part of it is something that you kind of come

to understand over time. Like when BLT walks in, it's not, this is time travel. This is season one. It's like, oh, what's not, this is time travel, this is season one. It's like, oh, what is going on? Like this not happened, did she go to a different version of reality? Are we in a different dimension or something? And you start to get a sense of that when BLT asks know, like, what are you doing down here? And she starts talking to her like, this is season one, like, oh, yeah,

the captain wants me to like get a sense of the ship. Cass, what are you doing here? Well, I walked out the Arpanics Bay and that took a left into the corridor. And then a riot into the turbo lift, took it down four decks, passed the guy selling naval oranges. I watched an interview with Bill Hader about the Californians recently,

that he and Fred Armerson had just been doing that as a bit with each other, and then Fred Armerson went off with another writer and made it into a sketch. That's fun. And he'd done it like, you know, his Californians accent every time they'd rehearsed it and in the rehearsal that they shot. But only when they were actually live on air, did he really put the English on and then you hear. I

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Fun. So when Kess makes it out into the hallway. She asks the computer for the exact time period she's in. And this is 56 days into the Voyager's time in the Dequad. I think every Starfleet computer should be programmed this way. If you ask what year it is, the computer should alert someone that a time travel may have happened. Yeah, it should put you in stasis until the security people can get a sense of what's

going on. Exactly. Yeah. So, knowing that Voyager has been in the D quad for 56 days, Angry Kess makes her way to 6 Bay and steals a hyposprae from the doctor. A doctor who we are reminded is far more annoying a couple of seasons ago. He's actually tempered out quite a bit. I'm just a hologram after all.

He's still doing the thing of trying to come up with a name. He doesn't quite seem to have the same visual acuity of the doctor that can spot the ball under the cup and the three-card Monte, because this is very obvious what she's doing with this hyposprae. Maybe he's just incurious. Maybe he sees that she's got the hyposprae but just doesn't care.

I mean, he's just up in his own head about his own shit. Yeah. He's not noticing. He shares some really curious thoughts about like the relative attractiveness of the Videans and maybe like some of them may have really beautiful personalities. Mm-hmm. So, Cascos down to the airponix bay,

which we also haven't seen in a really long time. And there she finds like original flavor casts who is wearing like basically the same outfit but in brown like one of those species where like the male is like really, really colorful and the female is really drab or vice versa. Oh yeah, cast primes plumage is very unsatisfying

compared to angry Kess. Yeah, angry Kess is the one that does all of the attracting of the mates in this species. She does the toki toki toki and then hypospraise. Kess Prime to the ground, it's easy. She didn't even see it coming. I think we've established that Kaka, Kaka, and toki, toy don't work.

Her next step is Nielix's restaurant, where Nielix is serving some god-awful-looking burger creation to Tom Paris. I kind of like the look of this greasy Nielix. Gotta say, do you really need the top bun on a burger with a patty that big? I don't know. I need the top bun. I want with a patty that big? I don't know. I need the top bun.

I want to pick it up and eat it with my hands. I don't want to eat it with a fork and knife like a damn Frenchman. But it looks like there might be an egg on top. It just looks like it looks like a mess. It looks like a knife and fork or to me. I do not believe in a burger that's exclusively a knife and fork. I think at that point, it stops being a hamburger and becomes something else. Is there argument about naming the burger

or that the burger is bad and gross? Because Paris walks off with it. I think it appeals to Paris. Paris has the same taste in food as you. Yeah, it's true. We like the same things, exactly. The tension with Cass is so much fun here, right? I think here more than any other scene because there's so many people around who don't

know who she actually is, and there's so much affection from Nelix towards someone who could freshen him up at any time. forward to tonight. Actually, I have a lot of work to do in a sick day. But I already reserved the Habitek. It seems so dangerous. Yeah, especially with coffee right there. God, how much were you waiting for a coffee to be thrown in someone's face? Coffee to be weaponized in any kind of way?

It was driving me nuts, this whole episode. Yeah. Her almost smile at the end of the scene is low key, the most terrifying part. Like, this sent a chill up my spine. Especially that Nielix reads it so wrong. Like Nielix reads it as restraint from smiling where Kess's reality is that it's restraint from throwing boiling

coffee in Nielix's face. She is really, really mad. She takes this potentially weaponizable coffee and walks off and we catch Janeway and Chico Tei working on the Videan issue in Janeway's office. They are the threat du jour. They are worried about running into more of them. She's not gonna broke any of his sympathetic Videan opinions in this meeting.

Pretty uncomfortable. Some of the stuff that Chico Te says. Yeah, she doesn't throw a coffee at him or anything. When the get gardeners come Chicoote, I'll make sure to tell them that. Sounds great. Kess comes in with coffee and learns of this vidian threat that the ship is going to be on tactical alert, etc. She spills some coffee as kind of a ruse for getting to stay in the captain's office when the captain has to go to the bridge.

How many times have we seen and heard this in TV and movies, the intentional spilling of a thing, and then a line of dialogue that is something like, oh, I'm so clumsy from a person who intentionally did it? It seems kind of cliche, right? Like it's a thing. Yeah. Am I crazy? No, it's definitely a trope.

If anyone ever tells you, oh, I'm so clumsy, you need to be suspicious. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like asking what year it is. It's like, what are you talking about? All right, so two new programs where saying should be put into the computer at this

point. Yeah, exactly. It's a rouge so that she can stay in the captain's office and I guess look at this computer. She asked the computer to set it to masturbation protocols as soon as the door is closed. She just loves the smell of burnt candles. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Best place in the ship to whack it.

Yeah. Janeway and two-bock are actually meeting with Ensign Wildman about an idea for some kind of neural agent that would knock out the Videans should they board the ship. And they're talking to her about this possibility when Kess comes back out looking very satisfied. And as she walks across the bridge, slushed even. Yeah. Two-vock notices her and she notices two-vock noticing her. Something is weird.

Like it smells like even more just struck matches in there. So maybe you can use that to cover up the smell of all kinds of other things. Yeah, that'd be great. There's a McLaughlin group is your one with the whole senior staff. Remember the EMH having to be remote for the McLaughlin groups? Both Pepperidge Farm and this episode remembers. He's on screen. They're all scheming for their next encounter with the Videans. A lot of space vacuol talk.

Remember space vacuol's right? I do. Losely remember space vacuols. Remember how much of a pain in the ass they are for navigating? Yeah. It's going to be a problem up ahead. It is. And they're working out this scheme whereby the computer will do a lot of the navigation

for them because Paris is just not going to be fast enough. Paris seems to take some umbrage with this. He's a real manual transmission kind of guy. And all this talk of cruise control really bumps him out. Auto navigation the entire way. Yeah, it's a shame. You know if this works, you might not have a job, Tom Paris. You'll be working in the 6th bay forever. So they're talking about the possibility of having a shuttlecraft out in front helping with the navigation and two Voktas's out. Delta Flyer might be good for that, but with its way better sensors than a normal shuttle.

And they're like, the fuck you say? Adelta what? Paris is like, I haven't told anyone about that. Program that I code named. That's just been part of my masturbation protocols for a little while now. Camera whips over to Paris. Whoa! Ha ha ha!

What did he say? Ha ha ha ha ha! Paris is not gonna have any chill about this. Yeah. He don't get to know what he truly thinks. No one gets to know what two bucks thinking here. It is so unusual for him to pipe up about something that's just wrong or weird. I think it really should merit some more scrutiny, right? It should merit a like, hey, let's get the doctor to like wave a medical track card at your

forehead just to double check everything is screwed on right, you know. If someone had to scan me every time I misspoke or mispronounced anything on this show, all of our records would take like six hours. But two bucks so precise and exact, I think anytime he gets out of his lane a little bit, I think that's a good idea. It would make sense, but they don't do that. And then, exactly, I think anytime he gets out of his lane a little bit, I think that's a good idea. It would make sense, but they don't do that.

Paris finds Kess in a brat-class shuttle. Just how am I saying your money, Buster? Dicking around with the controls, and she has kind of the same excuse for him here as she did for BLT earlier. Oh yeah, like the captain wants me to learn about the ship. So I'm just getting a sense of like, how the navigation controls on a, on a brat class might work. This is classic poor tab hygiene here.

Like, she's got to get another tab open when Paris shows up, right? Cause he sees, he sees all of it. Get a boring spreadsheet up, he's not gonna right? Yeah. Because he sees. He sees all of it. Get it boring, spread sheet up. He's not going to ask. Yeah. But instead, she's got the alluring curves of navigation plan plotted on the screen that involves the Voyager turning all the way around and going back to Ocampa.

This is another scene that reminds me a lot of the scene with Nelix in terms of the character's close proximity. Like, when Kess was so close to Nelix in the mess hall, things feel so much more dangerous. And in the same way in the shuttle, they're like right next to each other. And Paris is so innocent with his, like, you get to remember this was like the version of Paris that was into Kess,

quite a bit. And like did not give any fucks about Nielix's relationship with her. Like he was definitely like willing to destroy that if it meant hooking up with Kess once. Yeah. And what he doesn't know is that he could be freshened up at any time, even in the holodeck later where he's invited her to a teacher piloting. Yeah. Don't do it, Paris. Don't go in there. That's what sucks about that cold open scene

is that you can tell she learned how to fly but not how to dock her shuttle with the voyager. Right. Should have been suspicious the whole time. Well, some people were and they tried to report it. But... Yeah. So we get a scene with Tuvac.

He's trying to get on the elevator and Naomi Wildman walks out of it. This was very confusing to me because I was like, is TuVoc like caught between two time periods? Is he like living on the ship simultaneously in two time periods or something? Because Naomi Wildman isn't in this era of Voyager. That's a point well made and I think it's an example of like, you could either view this confusion as useful to the story and what it's trying to do or like unnecessarily confusing.

Right. Because I too for a moment thought that he had been blurping between timelines, but that's not really the case. between timelines, but that's not really the case. No, so he follows her down the hallway and he makes it into Cargo Bay where he finds seven of nine and all the board kiddos on their charging pads. And was that like Lieutenant Kerry? Lieutenant Kerry?

Ugh, where are you doing, huh? Yeah. I miss Lieutenant carrying. Lieutenant Kerry? Ugh, what are you doing here? Yeah. I'm Miss Lieutenant Kerry. Yeah. If you squint your eyes, he reminds you of O'Brien a little bit. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular.

What's gotta be intentional, right? Yeah. The next scene in Nielix is Corders. It's a rough ride, because Kess enters and plays this voicemail message that Nielix's quarters, it's a rough ride because Kess enters and plays this voicemail message that Nielix left for her. And it is the sort of nauseating voicemail from a partner that is not for anyone else's ears.

It's just like... It nauseates angry Kess so much she does that jerk the tablecloth under the dishes trick, but there's no tablecloth and all that the dishes fall over. Computer and music. I, again, just cannot believe the restraint this show has with its glass table tops. I know. I know. I know. No freshening up goes on. Instead she goes over to the computer and reaches out to another ship.

And finally persuades the person on the other end of the line to pick up. And it's a fucking Videon. What do you understand the terms of this deal to be really? Like, on offer is, look, I'm going to give you all of the tactical information on Voyager so that you can dig in those guts. In exchange, I want safe passage to the O'Compah home world. Is there a reason that you can think of or remember that the Videans wouldn't want the O'Compatant guts? Like, would they spoil too fast? Because they age so quickly?

I mean, who knows if this guy is making this deal in good faith, but she can always freshen him up when she's on board his ship. I mean, the way to really break this episode is why doesn't she just freshen everyone up and take Voyager? I don't know. Maybe too hard to work the ship by herself? And she's old. I mean, look at her. She's too old. She can't even see over the steering wheel at this point. She's so old. At the end of this conversation, when the Videans like, boy, you sure are pissed at those people on the voyage or what's up with that. Yeah, like I'm totally unethical organ harvester,

but pardon me for saying so. It seems like you've really got a B under your bonnet about betraying all of your friends. What she says is they abandoned her. Yeah. That's all we get. If you were wondering how Kess Prime was doing, she's being kept in a dresser drawer in the Erponex Bay, angry Kess checks on her, and the next scene, and then like just puts

her away. Yeah. Like she's a pile of sweaters. So she, you know, gives the other Kess a little injection, and then I mean, crucially, when she was talking to the Vadien, she was talking about wanting passage for herself and one other person. And I think that if I had been slightly smarter, it would have been obvious to me when it cut right to her taking care of the other cast, that that would be the other person, but I instead was like, wow, who's it going to be?

Is it Nelix? I mean, you could make the case that she's so angry that it could be one of a number of people. Right. Yeah. So she starts hacking into the tactical database of the foiger, and we cut up to Janeway's room where she is inspecting her captain's trinkets and Tuvac is reporting all of these hallucinations he's been having as he walked around the ship. He doesn't know who the angry wildman is. What a lucky bastard. He doesn't know who these cybernetically augmented people are. I can't explain it, Captain.

Good job, Tuvock, like actually reporting something fucked up to a commanding officer. This is a good start track character right here, doing what you should do in an episode of Start Track. Shockingly rare in the canon, but he does it. And he's talking to the Captain, given all the details and he's like, yeah, like I don't think I'm high,

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Toovac tells Janeway that like, yeah, you know, sometimes Vulcans have hallucinations, but we never have premonitions. What's so unusual about what he's saying is that he's pretty sure that he can see the future. Yeah. I think it's Janeway that actually characterizes these as premonitions. And so she, because he's like, he's saying anticipation. And she puts the label premonition on it and orders the computer to just like scan around two-vac continuously all the time.

And he's like, Captain, those who would give up freedom for safety deserve neither. And she's like, all right, Tuba. Like, we've heard the slogans before, but this is for the safety of the ship, not for you specifically. I like your Tuba compression. It's great.

Great. Captain, would it be possible to turn off the sensors for when I make poopy? Because you don't want these things to be on the whole time, right? There are certain parts of Vulcan biology that we do not share with outsiders. Perhaps if when I struck a match, the censors could be turned off. A logical plan. So Voyager rolls up on Vacuole Country and everyone's on edge about the Videans and about these hundreds of course corrections that are going to be necessary to traverse the vacuoles.

Yeah. And it's pretty clear from jump, like it's not going to be a smooth ride. It's going to be like one of those rides where the driver is constantly like on the gas and the brake. It's just not a comfortable ride at all. It's one of those classic boss that maybe over-delegates, moves where Janeway's like, okay, this super stressful, high stakes maneuvering

seems to be well underway. You guys got it from here. I'm going on lunch break. Yeah. We're time to leave. Janeway. I'll be in six Bay. I'm speaking of leaving the bridge. TwoVoc has another oopsie where he thinks he gets a ship on sensors that might be the ambush that they've been stressing about. And he's like, oh yeah, like I'm a little under the weather.

What do you think Commander T, Tukotye? Can I go to? Ben, to me, Tuvox observation reminded me of the cold open, though, because this thing had a collision course, right? Oh, yeah. I think that's an important distinction because all of Tuvox hallucinations or premonitions are like things that happened in that pre-credit scene, right?

I guess so, yeah, or... I guess not all of them because the alcove and stuff is different, but... But they're things that are like plausible, like, he doesn't think it's Videans, I guess. Yeah. Anyways, Janeway makes it down to Six Bay, meets up with Doc Holliday and Ants and Wildman who are working on this neural agent that will cause the Videans to fall down, go boom when they come on board.

And the doctor and the captain kind of go off in a corner together and the captain starts Soto Vocce, playing the EMH for information, private medical information about insulin wildman. I like this scene. The very real tension between a doctor and someone who isn't the patient, yeah.

She really cuts through the hip abulchit with rank though. Yeah, well in the safety of the ship. Yeah. The EMH doesn't ask for any verification on how, like, just how would her status of pregnancy bear on the safety of the ship, but he does divulge that Ensen Weldman is pregnant. And Janeway now has a bit of evidence that what Tuvac is going through is not just Tuvac losing it. It's being aware of something that is actually going on in some way.

From the doctor's perspective, this got to feel so weird to like disclose something like this must feel bad, but also like it's fairly innocuous. Yeah. And the larger scheme of things to him, but when Janeway wheels around and leaves right away, that is going to be a bizarre feeling.

Yeah. Damn. What did I say? How did she find out? I mean, I know I said something bad, but like, yikes. We cut over to Tuvac in a corridor and he is straight up, like, wobbling around, hearing things. He's hearing, like, the dialogue from the cold open in his mind.

And he finally staggers into engineering. And when BLT asks him what's up, he just straight up collapses. Yeah. He sees the ghostly image of Burlap Kess killing BLT. But then when he falls over, present BLT calls in the medical emergency and smash cut to two-vac writhing on a bio bed. Well, angry case is there like helping as a nurse, which is not great. The best part to this episode or when angry case is put into proximity

with people we care about. Without anyone knowing her true identity or knowing in what kind of danger that they're in. And this is maybe like the best expression of that is like when angry Kess is depended on to give life-saving aid to Tuvac and you can just tell like she's fucking with the clip show devices on his head.

Yeah, it seemed like she turned it up to 11, right? Yeah. Does that mean it's louder? Is that any louder? Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's really scary. Yeah. Later, Tuvac is sedated.

And Janeway is there to see what Tuvac's come into contact with. You remember that scene where she asked the computer to keep an eye on him? They like have a report generated by the computer and it's that report that indicates its tachyons that have been swirling his parody during the time of these hallucinations. What mean tachyons, Ben? Time travel.

Time travel. Exactly. This confirms all the suspicions that they had before about the two Vax visions. But you don't get the sense that that gets them any further toward understanding what's going on because Janeway walks right out and walks up to Kess and is like, hey, so like you're also sort of telepathic. Like, are you experiencing any of this stuff? It's interesting, like, later season casts, I think they would have hit up more often with a, hey, what do you think, Kess? Mm-hmm.

Kind of question, but early season casts, they almost completely ignored in this way. Yeah. So it does seem kind of novel that Jane Waywood asked the question here. You know who else is getting ignored, though? Fucking voric. Yeah. who else is getting ignored though? Fucking Vorik. Yeah, what's up with Vorik? Vorik's having a really bad day off screen.

He's also hallucinating, but it's like, he's like remembering year of hell and shit. Yeah. Angry Kess denies feeling any differently over the last few days. And after this, Angry Kess has a meeting with Evidion from before on the FaceTime, Svidion's getting pretty lippy for a guy without really anything to bargain with. He's just a guy who's going to get a lot of great intelligence information for basically

nothing in return. Well, he's also getting lippy because he's harvested a lot of lips lately and he's been just kind of adding them to himself. Yeah, the lip consumption grows ever greater. The more they have to have these conversations, that's why he's so impatient. He looks especially necrotic for a Videan, don't you think? Hey, Ben, is this the standard of beauty in Videan culture? Like the more grotesque you look, maybe that's what makes you captain.

Yeah, it's the most beautiful Videon gets to be in charge. Yeah. And their beauty standards are sort of the opposite of ours, the dead are the better. So they get attacked by this Videon ship and Cass is like transmitting the tactical information to them. And we get to see those grappling hooks clamp on to Voyager. I thought this whole sequence was really cool, like the special effects and the way they rendered

these scenes looked great to me. And when those grappling hooks grab onto Voyager, it can't break free. Because grappling hooks are strong. They really are. I like the implied kinetic energy of like something being shot with weight, add another starship,

and it kind of bouncing off of the hull a little bit. There's like, it's not just a projectile. It's like something grabbing in a really interesting way, like a thoughtful way, effects wise. All of the physics of these moments Are really effective and really feel like big ships doing big stuff to each other. They're just doing big ship shit Yeah, just doing big ship shit with my friends There's some Vadeans that think it's fun to do bad things that are boarding the ship. So, Ensign Wildman and Tak-Holo Day get ready to deploy their neural agent, but their

computer's not working. And they trace this to the Airponex Bay, where Angry Kess is doing her bad stuff. It would have been really fun of, like, once the realization drops that, like, fun of like once the realization drops that like someone is double crossing us. Like they have their shield frequencies. They have, they have answers to every possible defense Voyager has. If Janeway suspects someone else. God damn it, Harry Kim. It was you, Harry Kim. I knew it. Harry Kim, stop betraying us to the Videans. If our guest was just wrong, that would be amazing. So she's like, I'm leaving the bridge during a very exciting moment again. So she can go down to the Araponix Bay and it's like firefighting through the ship with

Videa and shooting their organ harvesting guns at them. Meanwhile, angry Kess wakes up, Kess prime and starts trying to move her because all of her controls have been shut off. She can't do the site-to-site. She was trying to do. Yeah. And Janeway catches her in the act of moving the other case. That's gotta be awkward, right? Yeah. I swear I was just moving her.

I was just trying to live out my lifelong ambition. You know, there had to be some thought in like, is Janeway going to carry the dust buster or the big giant rifle? If you're negotiating with someone, you want to carry the dust buster, right? Yeah. It's less aggressive looking. It's really hard to get cooler heads to prevail when you're waving a rifle around. Yeah. Test freshens up Janeway, knocks her against a wall and tries to make a break for the door, but there's a firefight out there.

And you don't see any of it, but just the phaser beam is going back and forth, which I really liked. It's great. Yeah, you just have to shoot coverage in the hallway. Yeah. Even I could do that. Now Angry Kess reveals why she is so angry. And this is a very interesting scene. She has thought about the young person that she was when she made the decision to leave O'Campa

and go with the Voyager crew and feels as though she was manipulated into doing that. And as though as though she was manipulated into doing that. And as though this rosy image of people who explore strange new worlds and seek out new civilizations was essentially grooming. Like her life has been ruined and she's been taken away from her people unfairly by people that were more sophisticated than her and had more power than her and that she regrets all of it.

And herself can't get home because she's too old and she's grown too powerful. She would be rejected by her culture, but she can forstall a terrible mistake for a younger version of herself. It seems so hopeful when they sent her away in that episode, right? Like, she'd become so powerful, freshening things up. Like, it was an agreement that she was almost too dangerous to keep aboard. She had to go practice freshening up somewhere else and go on her own adventures and stuff. Yeah.

And it's not like she didn't want to do that. It's not like she went against her will, but like what she describes is time away, recognizing that she could not figure out how to freshen things up without hurting people. And she blames Janeway and the crew for putting her down that path. And what I understood her plan to be was that if she took

young Kess and took her back to the O'Compan planet, it would get Kess out of the timeline where she hitched that ride on Voyager, remove that one from the table, and then the bad timeline won't happen. And she is rip shit pissed at the Voyager for having put her in a position of having to do this. It's a very intense scene because we're cutting back and forth from this to like Chico Te and everybody up on the bridge like fighting the the Dian ship and trying to break free of these grapples.

Am I reading too much into this in a film paper kind of way where like the sequence is cutting back and forth from a story of a character talking about, you know, leaving their home and feeling pulled away, wanting to return to like scenes of grappling hooks, yanking pieces of hull plating off of the ship in a very, you know, dramatic and painful way. Is that giving you too much credit? No, I think that's very intentional and I think that's a good read. This scene where Chicoate is the captain and he figures out a way to get the ship free of these hooks and then gets one of the great Chicoate fires of all time.

Seriously. I was so hyped of all time. Like seriously. I was so hyped up at this. Like, please give him a fire. Give him a fire, he gets a fire. Yeah, fire. They send a full volley of torpedoes at this Videan ship. Everybody that's been knocked down on the floor, down in the Air Pontix Bay gets up.

And it's like, like Janeway and Kess are like trading blows. And it's Janeway firing her phaser and Kess firing her freshen up mind ray. To the point where Janeway cranks the phaser up to 11 and hits Kess with a beam that's set to, oh. How badly did you want this to be the remix setting? From conspiracy. How badly did you want this to be the remix setting from conspiracy? Just explodes her head in her torso.

These air panic plants are soon going to be feasting at something besides air and trails. It's what plants crave. So her birdie turns into an old birdie. And when she checks in with Chicoete, he's like, yeah, I think things are stable for the moment. Later in engineering, Tuvaq demonstrates to Janeway what Kess did in there. She used the power of the warp core

for time travel reasons. And that means that a time traveling Kess could always have that available to her. Kind of a scary thought. They make a plan to be ready. And this plan is hatched in Six Bay where Janeway turns off Doc Hollow Day and just she and TuVoc

talked to Cass Prime about what to do going forward to prevent angry Cass from doing this to the ship again. And so we smashed cut back to TuVoc's birthday party from the beginning of the episode, the birthday party that he was none too thrilled to have been sprung on him. We get the distress call, they go out to the bridge and it plays a little different this time. Janeway realizes that this is the thing that they made the plan for and she orders And she orders, deck 11 evacuated. She is not telling anybody what's going on. Like, Chico, Dick keeps going,

like, are you sure? And she's like, yes, I'm sure. That's what we're doing. Let me ask you a question. Like, we see a lot of the same footage all over again of Kess boarding the ship. Yeah. Do you wish that we just heard that instead of saw it?

I thought the repetition of the scene exactly bumped me, but if we stay on the bridge and we just hear the bangers happen, yeah, I think that would have been fun. I think for the time it was such an exciting effect that they're like, we can use this again. Yeah, this is Star Trek making Star Trek for value. Yeah, this is Star Trek making Star Trek for value. Yeah once again, but so just Janeway and

TuVoc joined Burlap Kess in engineering and a holographic representation of Kess Prime appears and it's sort of a like, Hey, if you're watching this, I'm dead, but you're here. And here's what I want you to know about me. Hey, it seems like you're about to not treat Voyager like a lady and thus it will not be taking you home. That was unusual that like, Kess could have been given an infinite amount of time to record this message. and it is extremely truncated into like a 10-second snippet that's like, hey, try to remember the good times. It wasn't all bad, right? Right? Okay, see ya. Gonna give it to Janeway from here. I really hope Janeway's in the room right now. There's coffee in that hollow recording because you didn't want this to happen again. Yeah, I mean, it almost seemed like it was made just to be

enough of a distraction that burlapcess would give Janeway and Tuvac enough time to get down there. Yeah. Janeway invites burlapcess to stay on the ship and continue the voyages. I think it really says a lot that at no point in this plan is Neelix involved. Yeah.

As a manipulative device like as a, well, you're the closest to her. Like if anyone could speak to her so it's you, that is not on the table. This cast remembers making that hollow recording, but had pushed the memory down so deep and gotten so consumed by her anger that she was surprised to see it. It's really said that she's been having such a bad time off the Voyager. She doesn't describe a lot of her bad time again. Like she gets a couple of scenes where I think that's available to her. She doesn't really describe it with much detail.

She just says that they were like angry and confusing years. Yeah. And it seems like maybe she could still go home. This part I don't think was as clear as I had hoped. I was like, okay, so where is she gonna go? And how is she gonna get there in the transporter room? They're like wishing her a good bye. And Nelix gets another chance to say goodbye.

And Nelix won't stop staring. Why don't you stop staring, Nelix. And she beams away and we see that it's her own ship she was beamed to and it cruises away. That's the end of the episode. What do you think of this one, Ben? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like press and I don't like you. I love this too.

I think it's really well executed across the board. It's exciting and it moves and the special effects were really great and the dilemma was so interesting, but I found myself sort of wondering what it was trying to say, because the closest comparison I could come up with for what old Kess was angry about was grooming, like being too young to consent to or make informed decisions about the things that were happening in her life when she was on board the Voyager and having been then kind of let go into a cruel, cold universe that didn't have anything for her and that she had even less guidance in than she had when she was aboard. And when she comes back to redress this as a grievance, she is confronted just with

like a tape recording of her younger self going like, I'm happy and this is good. And like, there's lots of people that in their young life would have said, I'm happy and this is good. And then unpack those times later in a therapeutic context or just, you know, in remembering them and realize that there was a lot about it that was actually horrible, you know, in remembering them and realize that there was a lot

about it that was actually horrible, you know. Yeah, I'm with you, Ben. I think this might be another case of like a Star Trek episode not really having full conviction or full confidence in the reasons a character is doing a thing. Like, to get two moments in the episode for Kess to very clearly state what is wrong with her and why she's feeling the way she is for all those years away and to not be able to articulate it, I think makes this episode ultimately dissatisfying. Like, I needed a why to this and I just didn't get it. Like, I understand you're upset, Kess.

Like, everyone can see that. You're freshening up. Everyone you see out here. You freshened up. Miriam hallways. But like, you gotta help us help you. Like, give us some detail and that she's just angry and confused. I don't know, like, make it biological, make it like the pace of

her aging has advanced in such a way that like it makes her dangerous and destructive, you know, maybe her practice being out in that shuttle was about, you know, trying to get a handle on those things before they, before they consumed her. But there's no tradition or history of the O-Compans that would suggest that that's a part of what she's going through. Yeah. I just wanted a reason more than what we got. And I think that really would have helped this episode because it really had a lot of interesting ideas.

You know? I agree. And the grooming thing that I think we're both picking up on is also such a like current topic of conversation in the discourse or whatever that I feel like it was hard to read that as anything but but maybe that wasn't like quite how it was intended in this episode. So I don't think there was any chance it was intended in this episode. So I- I don't think there was any chance it was intended in this episode. Yeah, so I sort of feel like

it must have hit really different in the day it came out. But it's really hard for me to cast my mind back to that mindset. So it's an episode that didn't sit super well with me from a message standpoint. But in terms of production and execution,

highest marks. What did you understand was going to happen to Kess after the credits? Like, I think this was another part of the episode that kind of bumped me. It was like, she got really angry and confused being by herself on that shuttle. So the answer to that is like putting her back on the shuttle and sending her to an O'Compan planet that she is positive would not accept her. Yeah, I mean like that is interrogated a little bit like what it is, what about the O'Compans leads you to believe that there's no way that they would accept you. I mean, I know that it was like a kind of closed and conservative society, but I think a couple of freshen-ups could change their mind.

Yeah, yeah. Now I'm Euro-Compan-Queen. The name-rate that doesn't like that can catch some of this A fresh, you never think you don't want to make me mad. So she's also kind of like the Hulk in this. Yeah. Yeah. God, that should have been the credit sequence. She gets back into her ship and they play the piano sweet from the old incredible Hulk TV show. With that change alone, this is an apex episode.

This is like on the mountain with that. It's a good punch up. Do you want to see if there's anything at the priority one in bucks? Oh, yeah. I don't think anything's going to make me angry in there. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement.

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Thanks for that message. Definitely a cause we can get behind. And yeah, it's it's whack how many lives have been ruined by like incredibly stupid drug arrests for simple possession. And our next priority on message is from Captain Catherine Janeway and it's to the crew of the Starship Voyager, and it goes like this. We're alone in an uncharted part of the galaxy. We've made some friends here and some enemies. We have no idea that of the dangers we're going to face,

but one thing is clear. Both crews are going to have to work together if we're going to survive. That's why Commander Chicoeté and I have agreed that this should be one crew a Starfleet crew And the camera pans down to Chicoate's hand and you break the pencil What do you think are the chances that this could have been a a make-wee's crew? Like wee's?

How hard do you think Chicoate was riding for that? Were they just outnumbered was that was that the only thing? Yeah a Hmm. Then we got a second priority when message here kind of related to the first. This one's from Captain Catherine Janeway, it's to the crew, the Starship Voyager. That message goes like this, we'll seek out new worlds and explore space. But our primary goal is clear. Even at maximum speeds, it would take 75 years to reach the Federation. But I'm not willing to settle for that. We'll be looking for wormholes,

spatial riffs, or new technology to help us somewhere along this journey. We'll find a way back. Mr. Paris, set a course for home. So I think that's just the straight line from that pilot episode, right? Yeah. No edits. No. It's just the straight line from that pilot episode, right?

Yeah. No edits. No. It's good stuff. It's nice. Yeah, feels good. To remember how we got ourselves here. Yeah, and nice on this particular episode,

that's a good bit of time travel for us. Time travel. Yeah. Well, thanks to everyone who got a priority one message, whether you're a time traveler or not, head to maximumfund.org slash JemboTron to set one up today. We really appreciate it. Hey, Ben. What's that on?

Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! Drunk Shimoda! I'm going to give it to the doctor for reprising his role as an annoying doctor. Hmm? Computer D-Activity Image. That had to be fun, right? I've made a give it to the doctor for reprising his role as an annoying doctor. Computer de-activating image. That had to be fun, right? Yeah.

I think that that might be low-key one of the trickiest acting lifts in the episode. I think the reason for that is that his character seems to have undergone the most character change over the seasons. And it was very noticeable what a different type of guy he was back then. So, I don't know, it really amused me. I thought he did a great job with it. And he is my drunk Shimoda. He really has grown to kind of read the room.

A little better. Yeah. kind of read the room. A little better. Yeah. Ben Mishimoto is Chicoeté, the enthusiasm with which he fires the torpedoes really unmatched. I crave it. I crave it so often. Ultimate payoff here when he shoots those bad boys.

I just loved it. Like, I think Robert Belchand really, this is all he's got left, really, as an actor, unvoiator. The occasional torpedo fire. And he really does a great job here in this scene. It was a bigger, better episode for him than we've had in a long time. Yeah, you just had to time travel back to past Chico Tay. To get a little more character development out of him. That's what we got. Go ahead and get the wheel. Why don't you head over to god.bizslashgame

and fire up the game of buttholes. The will of the caretaker. Well, I tell you about season six, episode 24, life line, the doctor seizes the opportunity to save the life of the man who created him. How's he gonna do that? Fuck, I find him, man. How do you even know he needs saving?

I'm confused. Yeah, maybe Barkley gets back in touch. Eh. Eh. Eh. Don't love that. I'm confused. Yeah, maybe Barkley gets back in touch. Uhhh. Uhhh. Don't love that. Don't love that. I mean, I know we're going to make a great episode out of whatever this is. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't want to turn off friends of Disoto to the next episode. Maybe something that will turn them on is how we will experience it. For that, I'm going to go to the game of Buttholes, the will of the caretaker, where I can tell you right now I run about to on Square 90. Savon! One Square ahead of Space Butthole that would take us to an eighth degree up. Three squares ahead. A more enamored power out. Beyond that, I think what happens if I roll something greater, I think we just go back to the first row I think that's how the game works. I don't know you're required to learn as you play

Roll let's find out what happens Ben I've rolled at two Woo And that means we're in between Mornhammered and the Space Sput hole at square 99, a regular old episode for us. How about that? That is spicy.

My goodness. I am happy that next week is going to be a regular old episode that I need a little more time to recover from all of the jet lag and tour tiredness before I do a power hour. Although a friend of DeSoto brought us shot glasses on the road. So I guess we could finally do a power hour where I have a shot glass, right? Yeah, that's how we do it.

I guess we've received other shot glasses. Maybe I have done one with an actual shot class before. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I wouldn't remember. Obviously. If we get to a power-hour app, we should do that episode together. That'd be fun.

That would be really fun. Well, this has been a load of fun overall, Adam. And I sure appreciate all the folks who support the show by going to MaximumBund.org slash join. Without whom none of this would really be possible. I kind of think Wendy Pretty for producing and editing all of the stuff that we do here at Greatest Gen.

She's the greatest and has a full-time job with benefits because of the large s of the friends of DeSoto. I mean, she would be, she's like super employable, she would have a full-time job with benefits without the friends of DeSoto. Yeah, she could leave it any time, she says it often. Yeah, she has a full-time job with benefits at a company that she actually likes working for. Right, yeah, pretty great.

We gotta think, we great Bill Tilly, the card daddy, runs our social media and Adam Magusia. We made our original theme music, the Janeway song. Of course, riffing on the work of the one and only dark material, who made the original Picard song. All of the folks that support this show in one way or another are deeply appreciated. You know, one of the best parts of being out on tour is meeting so many friends at a

sodo and so often we hear from them. Thank you for creating the communities that we've met so many friends or in some cases like partners or whatever. And I just want to say like we did not make those communities. Like the FODs did and do, and it's just amazing that they exist as such positive great places for so many. We're like a bit of grit inside of an oyster, and the communities of friends of DeSoto are the pearl that formed around that grid.

We met some folks from the FuckFokai Facebook group. I'll let you figure out what that group is for. Just amazing. Every day I'm learning about a new group of FODs who have assembled around a unifying theory or idea or type of fun. It's just great. Find them. Hashtag greatest gen just great. Yeah. Find them. A hashtag greatest gen is how you find most of them.

With that we will be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and episode of the greatest generation Voyager where Adam and I have a unique opportunity to save the life of Adam and I by not drinking so much beer. Cause it's not gonna be a more enamored episode. That's not, yeah, keep them on ice. Yeah. Don't move the car to the youth, it's a different vibe. Make it sound, make it sound. Make it sound. Don't move the car to the car to the car to the car to the car to the car.

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