The Greatest Generation - Gagh Dream (VOY S3E6)

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

When B’elanna Torres starts sleeping through her alarm, her vivid dream life makes her work life difficult. But when she realizes that their alien visitors are responsible, their terrible secret won’t stay in the dark for long. What is a “Dry Maron”? Have we come up with the next great merch item? Who is on the leaderboard of awful aliens? It’s the episode that misses an alien social cue!Exchange scarves for goods at PodShop.bizSupport the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Bringing one of the U.S. is... Boy, I'm just... Captain... Captain... Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison.

I'm Adam Pranika. Why so down, Adam? Why so gloom? Oh, I'm excited. This is... This is what makes our show legendary, right? No other Star Trek podcast is willing to die for their art. The way we're possibly doing today

by setting up a recording studio in our bathtubs. Yeah, we haven't moved to the bath just yet. We thought we would do the Marin here in studio. We're doing a dry Marin. A dry Marin. Is what they call it in the business, right? Right, yeah. I think that the like public media professionals

coined that term. Right. I was getting my tub prepped. I thought I would hit it with some all-purpose cleaner and give it a scrub before I filled it with water and soaked in it. Great idea. Yeah, make yourself the dirtiest thing in there. Yeah, yeah.

One of the things I thought to do is, you know, there's that cover that goes over the upper drain, like the one that the overflow one that's meant to... Oh, you're talking about the hurl? Yeah, the hurl at the top. There's that cover to, you know, that makes it a little bit more... So you don't overflow. Yeah, but the cover is just a piece of chrome to make it look a little bit nicer. I thought, oh, unscrew that.

I saw this life hack where somebody unscrewed that and turned it over so that the opening is on the top of that. That way you get an extra inch and a half of water in your bath. You know, depending on the circumstance, an extra inch can make a whole lot of difference. Literally, so I was like, I'm gonna do this life hack from the internet, and I pulled out my Swiss Army knife

and began to unscrew it. It's so fucking corroded that it just fell right off. The screw broke off in the device. I don't have a hurl cover at all now. I broke my bathtub today. You're just hanging hole in your bathroom now? Yeah, I'm hanging hole. I will not get the benefit of the extra inch.

In fact, I'll have no one will. The opposite of that. And I'm going to have to go to a headwist or a home center to fix my tub now. What you need is that as seen on TV product that you can wrap a busted pipe with. Oh, yeah, the flex seal. Flex seal.

I have some of that too. I, so we talked about the flood in my office, I think on the greatest discovery. So, committed listeners of the Uxbridge Shimoda family of products will already know that I had a fairly intense day a few days ago where lots of water was coming into my studio and my garage and I bought like the full suite of flex sealed products to address some of these issues. We got to get with the network on doing a sponsorship.

We'll see if it actually is as good as it appears to be on commercials because I just went around in my garage like basically flex ceiling every joint that I saw water come through. Wow. And that was like literally like half an hour ago as of this record that I was doing that. But they're like we're going out of town. We're recording this before the holidays. I'm going up to see my folks in the Bay Area. It is scheduled to rain the entire time I'm gone, which is just a terrifying contemplate.

I wouldn't leave, man. Yeah. I don't want to make you feel bad about this decision. But I'm just generally paranoid. Yeah. Just as leave, man. Yeah. I don't want to make you feel bad about this decision, but I'm just generally paranoid. Yeah. Just as a resting state. Yeah. I can't imagine how this will be tormenting you

while you go. It's gonna be... I'll go visit your house if you need me to, man. Oh, man, really? Yeah. I'll check on it for you. I'm gonna come over to your house tonight. I'm gonna throw you a spare set of keys

so that you could swing by and check. Cause that would ease my mind greatly. I'm gonna throw you a spare set of keys so that you can swing by and check because that would ease my mind greatly. I'm not that worried about it because the big problem was a drain that was stopped up that I cleared the problem. And I know that it's cleared, but- That was a hurdle that you were able to recover. Yeah, and I've poured several test buckets of water

down this drain to make sure that it's still- Water and other things. Yeah, so we'll see if the flex seal works, but I would not wanna put that stuff on my tub because it's the kind of tape where you peel it off and then you have to peel off a backing. Yeah, because once it's stuck, it's really on there. Like you could lift a tub out of a bathroom using flex seal.

Yeah, yeah, so I think that the duct tape would be temporary enough to try. I don't know I would go with the flex seal. Wow. Well, it sounds like we hopefully have solved a couple of problems, but we have one big one unresolved here. We have a massive, massive problem at him. We have to review an episode of Star Trek Discovery from the comfort of our home bath tubs. I really wanted to put this off. Yeah. I think there's nothing else to do

but to fill the tubs and get in and then talk about Star Trek Voyager Season 3 episode six. Remember. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes. I'm not dreaming about. We're now in the Tubbs.

We're in the tub. I decided to duct tape up the hurl, so I could get a full bath tub, and I wouldn't have it, like, you know, little drain noises intermittently throughout this situation. I think we can come up with a new greatest gen ruler. Are you ready to add to the list? Yeah, it's been a long time. Always fill your tub up to the hurl. Yeah, yeah, it's a good rule.

Like who's filling their tub up halfway up to the hurl? You don't want to do that. It's just a waste. That's a half measure. Yeah, that's not what we do around here at the greatest generation. I've already got wrinkly fingers. We've been dealing with some tech issues. Yeah, I had a real big problem over here on my side. You've finally solved the tech issues and you're like, okay, we're ready. I'm going to get in the tub now and I was like, man, what a

good idea to not get in the tub until you know it's gonna work. Yeah, if I had been trying to tech the show from inside the tub, I don't even know, man. I'd probably just drop my laptop in the water and end it all right here. Just call it. Yeah. Well, we get a classic episode start here, Ben, because it's one of the classic TNG-style Uber trip missions we got going. Yeah. It's one of the classic TNG style Uber trip missions we got going. Yeah, the Voyager is providing a ride home

to some Anarians. Anarans? Yeah. Anarans. And in exchange for this hookup, the Anarans are trading some technology of efficiency. But it's an even better deal than that because they also get their friendship.

And babes. Yeah, we see one of these babes in engineering. Who is he? He has wasted no time making eyes at her. Yeah. There is a minor flow problem. I'd be happy to help. He's all up in those conduits, clearly.

But this babes, Jessen, has kind of an overbearing mother figure in here too, and you gotta get rid of the mother, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, you don't want her to know what you have planned. You gotta get the mother out of the way, and you gotta get the third wheel out of the way, and that's who BLT is. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, I've kind of got the contours of this episode figured out. This is gonna be an episode about Harry Kim having a StarCrossed romance with this babe that's on board the ship doing science with him, and then they're gonna get there,

and he's gonna have a terrible decision to make because he stay or does he, you know. Right. Let her fly free or something like that. Classic Harry Kim's story. But no, not gonna be, not gonna be the episode we get today instead. We cut almost immediately to a scene of BLT waking up in a bed. And having kind of a Dawson's Creek Lake Trist.

I thought this was like, oh, that's cool. I'm gonna fake like, I'm gonna turn in early and instead go have a hollow novel to myself. Yeah. This is not a hollow novel. She's having a Gach's dream. I've, I feel like I haven't noticed how low profile her loaf is until this episode. Like you get some really good close up profile shots of her. That loaf really does not pop off the forehead.

Yeah, you can barely see it, like you can barely see so much of our baretees underneath the bubbles here. Ben, did you get with some bubbles today in the bath? I didn't, I went with some Epsom salts though. I thought that might be nice. That's nice. I couldn't find the bubbles I was looking for. So I went with the closest thing I could find was scrubbing bubbles and it came in a little like pumper spray. So I just filled the tub with those and then put the hot water on top. It's giving me a nice little

tingle. Oh good. I'm not worried at all, Adam. I think you could argue also that there's some fragrance benefit. What's the thing? It's kind of an essential oil's effect. Yeah, of the extremely powerful detergent eating away at your parody. I can really feel it all over. It's really attacking all of my heros. So instead of just throwing the laptop in the water, you've decided to go with a more slow motion solution

to today's problem. Yeah. It's exactly it. She gets referred to as Carina in this fantasy. Yeah, normally a lady would take great umbrage with being called by someone else's name in a situation like this. But BLT kind of rolls with it. fantasy. Yeah, normally a lady would take great umbridge with being called by someone else's name in a situation like this, but BLT kind of rolls with it. Yeah, she's cool. Yeah.

She also is surprisingly cool with the fact that her boss came into her apartment and is standing over her bed, asking her why she's late to work. Boy, not a good look for Jakota here. What is he doing? He would have been so easy to show the attempted call and the attempted doorbell ring just to get Jakota off the hook. I mean, the other thing that crossed my mind is, is he worried that this is some kind of Paris-like subterfuge and that she is being bad at her job to trick him and other people for some spycraft reason.

And that's why he's on her case like this. Belana, wake up. The moment you start to think about the creep factor of H. Dakota in BLT's room, it's totally redirected by BLT disclosing everything about her sexy dream to Chicoetay on the walk into work. So as far as HR violations go, like I think it's probably, you just cancel

each other out here, right? They're both fired. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she really spills the beans about what has been flooding her basement lately. She leaves no detail unsaid. I was deeply uncomfortable by how close they were talking about it. Physically close, right?

Like, they're in engineering going over this, and Chico Te is standing like six inches from her face while she tells him there's like steamy bodice ripper romance that she's been dreaming about. You could look at this scene and think that this was a kind of flirtation that BLT is laying on Chico Te though, right? Like I think there's a version of this that reads like that. Like, I think there's a version of this that reads like that. I guess, yeah, like I want you to call me Karina. Yeah. Next time. I don't know.

It's a very weird scene. So we cut to Paris and Kim walking into the mess hall, which has been totally redressed as an Iranian mess hall, I guess. And Nelix is bending over backwards for these people. It's like he's the one out to impress someone instead of Kim. Right.

Which is an interesting read. It doesn't seem like Nelix is into any of the Inarians, the way Kim is. No. But he is just as interested in impressing them and celebrating parts of their culture in this way. What happened to the tables and chairs? The narins don't use them.

Like I think low key, one of the funniest things about this episode is how far off Nielix is in terms of recreating a realistic version of their culture because we find out later that the dreams that BLT is having throughout this episode are on Anaria or whatever the planet is called. Which looks absolutely nothing like what Neelix came up with for the mess. In the way that none of his recipes resemble the ones he's trying to make either.

Like the curtains are too peccat. This is the nailed it with Nicole buyer of having an ethnic restaurant on board the ship. Yeah, this is the nailed it with Nicole Byer of having an ethnic restaurant on board the ship. Right. Kim leaves Nelix and Paris to their own to go hang out on the eating rug with his new lady friend. And we pan over to the captain who is just wrapped as this man plays an instrument that is, you know how like if you cross a keyboard with a guitar, you call that a keytar? This is like a boob tar.

Yeah, it really is. Like Janeway is bathtub horny for George Brels, Pogo Ball, finger blasting in this scene. It's amazing. There's coffee in that of the piece of music. She's like, man, this is great. I would love to be able to shred like you. And he's like, well, maybe you can. Why don't you give it a try? And she sits down and shred she does.

Yeah, it's because Jor Braille gives her a non-consensual music lesson. And it totally overwhelms her. And he apologizes for misunderstanding what she wanted. Like, he thought she wanted to sign up for kind of a weekly lesson plan where you pay up front. And it's very difficult to quit at any time. Yeah, this is a missed alien social cue, essentially,

is what we're made to understand here. In their culture, what transpired between them would be sort of an invitation to telepathy, and that is not what Janeway thought was going on. And the dude is super embarrassed by this, and really makes the case for like consent is super important to us as a culture. This is not how I meant for this to go down,

and I'm super humiliated that it went like that and I am sorry. Yeah, it comes really close to becoming a diplomatic incident and it comes close to really nose-diving one of the main ship economies of the music lesson industry. And Tuvaq was like getting ready to fucking vaporize this guy over that. Yeah. You know, this is national defense level issue. How do you stop this? I mean, when Tuvac does it, he has to actually physically touch you, but these guys can be about an inch away

and still get the same effect. In another part of the room, Nielix is showing Chico Tei his disinfecting balls. The inarins are very hygienic. This is a technology that he picked up from the inarins also. And they both kind of wonder where BLT is, but Chicote knows. Chicote really knows where BLT is.

I was a little bit worried that he was gonna put her on blast to Nelix, like, oh, she's been having horny dreams, Nelix. Yeah, but in that previous scene for whatever reason, after spilling all of her beans, like every single beans she's got to Chico De, she's like, don't you tell anyone about all these beans? So Chico De keeps the bean word mom and BLT goes back to the

land of Nod where she is talking to her, her kind of overbearing father about how that boy that she keeps cavorting with is no where she is talking to her kind of overbearing father about how that boy that she keeps rewarding with is no good for her. Dad does not want her dating, Nathan. This dad is dumb as hell. Like you get to check all the rooms if you're suspicious of a secret companion.

You really do. You gotta have your head on a swivel. This is the actor that played like the the senator in the X-Bed movies. Oh yeah. Most first two X-man movies. He's also the dad from the Harry and the Henderson's TV show. Oh shoot. That's right. I recognized him. So he passes her a glass of the passes her a glass of the blue drink of not fucking Dathan and walks out and out from behind a curtain appears Dathan. If Nate is the shortening of the word Nathan is

date, the shortening of the word Dathan? Yes it is Ben. Yes so dad having been satisfied with his counseling of his daughter gets the hell out of there leaving the the secret lover to emerge from the room behind there to get back with the makeouts. Only this time there's a lot more chafing than before. Chafing then before. And BLT burst awake in her bedroom. Yeah. I'll hot and sweaty. The next day she has a little meeting with Chico Te.

It's mostly business, but then she's also, this dream is more than just a bodice ripper Chico Te. I'm having, I'm like the story unfold in stages. Yeah, it's like a lucid dream, but it's, but serialized. Yeah, it's a serialized lucid dream is what it is. There's more going on than just a love affair. I'm having a relationship with this man,

but my father doesn't approve, so we have to sneak around. It's like each new dream advances the story. It sounds like a hollow novel. What it feels like is actually happening. It sounds like the sort of dreaming where you wake up feeling very unrested. Yeah, it's not akin to sleep at all. You get to wake up and do sheet laundry, like on top of that before going into work. Yeah, there's a wet spot in your bed, so you've got to get the dehumidifier going in your room.

God, what a hassle. So she's like out in the hallway on her way to work when another dream hits her and she's like in a courtyard on this planet which doesn't look a thing like what Nielix did to decorate the restaurant. And it turns out her dad is kind of, it is in fact kind of a political figure. He's giving like a benediction for this new Anaran initiative to start branching out into the cosmos and doing colonization. They're going to start like conquering other planets, I guess. And the imagery is very, you know, 1930s Germany, right?

Like the color palette and stuff. Oh yeah, and dad is there to display some nationalist nepotism to his daughter. He gives a speech about terraforming and then gives BLT a medal. What's weird is that everyone gets a medal besides Chubacaka in this scene. Yeah.

Something I've never been able to figure out. He did everything everybody else did. He was just, he was an equal participant. Right. It's fucked up. She's also changed into like a leather field martial uniform with a balls broach on it for some reason. This is a broach that I need to be looking for

at the merch table, at the next brooch that I need to be looking for at the merch table at the next Star Trek convention I go to. Anar and Truknuts brooch. I mean look we found filling out our own merch store incredibly difficult for a variety of reasons. We started a merch store during the supply chain crisis which was a great move by us. Yeah, I mean, but what my theory presupposes is, maybe we've been going about it all wrong by going for like, drinkware and clothing. I think balls broaches are more than available right now. How many expert Shimoda truck nuts do you think we could sell

if we put those up at podchop.pix? Easily eight to 10. That would be great for us. Yeah. So, Nathan finds BLT in a dark hallway after this presentation. And he gives her a hand job right there in public. Yeah. Like, over the clothes H.J. is what it was.

It's really intense, really steamy. Yeah. He can't be seen with her and he can't be like around her, but they make a plan to meet up day after tomorrow. Yeah, there's a big party at BLT's house that night that are dads throwing, so that wouldn't be a good time. Even though are dads totally oblivious to the other rooms in BLT's house. Yeah, right. Seems like she could get away with it if she wanted to. He's not even curious about why there's a pair of shoes

at the bottom of that set of curtains at the window. Yeah. And if the fascist imagery and speech in the earlier scene didn't tip you off to what a bad dude, Karina's dad is the jackbooted thugs asking for papers please from everybody when Dathan leaves this little trist, should be enough to tip you off. Boy, oh boy, band, the problem I had in the last Nielik's episode has returned.

I am just incredibly hot. I am just sweating. Yeah, and you're doing airpods, so you don't even have the big over-the-year headphones to sweat your hair up. I thought I'd make a improvement to the system by going airpods, and it's definitely better than the cans.

The cans were too sweaty last time. I'm not suffering, but I also didn't draw a super-duper hot bath. I tried to dial it in, which could come back to bite me as I get closer and closer to hypothermic, I suppose. I want to add cold water to this tub. Oh, yeah, give yourself a shot of cold. Oh, yeah, here we go. Oh, that's nice. There you go, buddy.

Yeah. Now I can feel it. It's cooling nicely. This is going to be a bad idea in about 20 minutes. Your AirPods ever fall out because I feel like I was thinking about that and then I was like, you know, they fall out just often enough that I think I would basically guarantee ruining them if I tried to wear it in. What we are is in danger of getting up to the heroo. I got to compensate by doing some emptying here. Oh yeah, little laxies. I've taken some tub water and greased my hair back. The people watching at home will be able to tell that my hair has changed. Yeah. The people watching at home will have reasonable complaints to be made about this episode. Okay, I've hit the stopper again.

Stopper is stop things. I hope you didn't hit the stop button on your record at them. No, I never do that. We want this episode to last forever. I'm going to get back up on the mic. I had to lean back to accomplish that feat. So Kess finds BLT passed out in engineering, which kind of surprised me because I thought she was just like in the hallways when she had this vision so it seems like maybe she like caught the vision

and kept walking a little bit before falling down. Yeah, it sure seems that way. Pretty fucked up. BLT wakes up in 6 Bay where the doctor seems fine and no one talks about how or why the doctor is back to normal after having this program completely wiped and grafted with doctor Zimmerman's a couple episodes ago, which they really should take five minutes out of this episode to totally describe. I mean, they should have taken five minutes out of the last episode, but this episode he actually has a couple of things to do, so

maybe it would have been nice in this one, but he seems fine. She is not. There's strong evidence of telepathic activity in your frontal lobe. And what he describes is that she is not having dreams, but in fact memories. And there's evidence that these are being telepathically injected into her, but they're real memories. He looks at her square in the eyes and is like, have you been taking music lessons? Luckily the doc has a device that's going to stop these dreams, but BLT does not want that.

She's willing, like a lot of people, to risk brain damage for a more intense climax. Yeah, she's basically saying, like, don't put the tin foil hat on me yet. I'm only an X-2. Right. And he's like, well, your way of structure play is super dangerous, but if you're doing it with supervision, I guess I can sign off on it. That should be an Apple Watch activity thing.

Like you hit the icon that's just belt around a doorknob. And it automatically dials 911. If your heart rate flatlines, it just works the way it ought to. So this is now a new diplomatic incident that they're going to have to deal with with the NRNs and BLT is given like a couple days off work, right? This is nice. Yeah. Janeway sees that she's struggling.

Why don't you go ahead and take the next few days. We're on an Uber trip anyway. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Hang out. We'll make the ship more efficient without you. I'd rest a lot better if I had some answers. So they meet up with Jor Braille, the old instrument player

from the party before, right? I wonder if he's related at all to Jor-L. Superman's dad. I think he is, man. Cool. That's neat. Jor-Brale looks like he is wearing one of those visors that you buy out of Skymall that has hair sewn into it to make it look like you have hair.

I was just thinking of hair shirt as punishment, transposed onto a hair visor as punishment. Like, if you want to look like you're trying to sleep on an airplane, but also definitely do not want to sleep on an airplane. There's hair visor. That should be a square on the game of buttholes. We have to wear a hair visor while recording an episode. We gotta do the show blind.

Just imagine. He suggests that this is maybe an accident. Like there's something about her unique alien brain anatomy and the presence of all of these telepaths, maybe her mind is kind of like organizing a bunch of scattered telepathic signals into a narrative, but she's clearly confused, like the stuff she's describing doesn't really comport with anything about their history or anybody's real memory. So he feels just terrible about it, because they're so consent-oriented as a people, but this was just an accident.

This is suspicious, right? Can you take one person's word for it here? They kind of put all of their trust eggs into Jor-Brell's basket, don't they? They do. Jor-Brell just seeming less and less trustworthy by the minute. But I mean, Janeway seemed satisfied enough

with Jor-Brell's explanation that on the one hand, she's like, well, I mean, this thing's going to resolve itself once we drop off these guys at their Uber destination. Right. And we'll be on our way. But like, nothing's going to stop us from continuing to investigate during. So that's what they decide to do. For once, Tuvac is not like the most pro action character in a scene. He's like, oh, you're going to keep going?

Wow. I wonder how long it's been since I did anything that surprised you. Are Tuvac and Kess the only psychics on board at this point? Yeah, I mean, that's interesting. You'd think you'd want to involve a Kess or a Brad Duriff where he to be alive in a situation like this. Shouldn't Kess be warming some people's coffees up?

Really? So, be able to waste no time in going back to her quarters and taking off the device that the doctor gave her to prevent these dreams. And jumps in bed and wakes up in her alternate reality talking to her father about the regressives who are the people that he is trying to round up and get rid of. I mean, the line is there just being moved somewhere else where they can live apart from everyone else because the regressives are unclean. They don't wash their hands before they eat. They don't put on underarm, deodorant before they go out. They're just no good and we gotta get rid of them,

but it's just a difference of opinion. We're just gonna move them somewhere else so their problems are theirs and our problems are ours. Pretty interesting ideas there by community. Yeah. No, you liked those ideas, huh? problems or ours. Pretty interesting ideas there by Kareena. No, you liked those ideas, huh? I didn't say that. I personally found them repugnant, Adam. I'm sure you did.

Hahaha. Yeah, I mean, it is fairly obvious what the analogy is here. This dark analogy and outside, Kareena is there to kind of work the door. She's a door person at the camp where the regressives are made to live and are being made to move. She's out there scanning bottle openers and they call Daethon's name.

And Daethon doesn't show up. And this really concerns BLT, who wonders where the hell her boyfriend is. Did you want him? Did you tell him he was on the list? I didn't even know that he was. And she isn't able to figure that out before someone running out of the camp runs into her and knocks her over

and that causes BLT to wake up. Yeah, I mean, this is a very uncomfortable scene because like right before that happens, like there's a woman that's like, where are you moving us to? Why are you wearing balls on your shirt? And she doesn't really have good answers to any of these questions. Yeah. I mean, kind of more scrutiny to the brooch than their plans for resettlement, really. Yeah.

Kind of a lot of time taken with the jewelry of the Inarins. Seriously. So she runs down to the quarters of Jora Morrell, who is the older lady that was that was cock-blocking Cam earlier. Yeah, I feel really bad about my earlier feelings about her. I thought she was kind of a creep. Getting her rocks off watching her daughter and Harry came get together. That's not what was happening at all. Instead, we find out that this is her story. She's living under an assumed name and that she is beaming these memories

into BLT's head to safeguard a ugly truth about the inarins. And I mean, probably the most miraculous thing about this scene is that she is clearly collapsed on the floor right next to a glass coffee table at home. God, it's so close. I mean, I think if this was TNG, BLT would have come in and this lady

would have been going through the glass coffee table, right? I mean, I don't want these words taken out of context and weaponized against me, but I really wanted to see an old lady go through a glass table here. Just for old time's sake. This being the internet, I'm sure that somebody will take on bridge with that atom. Yeah, yeah. The story isn't over though, so this old grabs the back of BLT's neck and finishes all over BLT. Don't let the memories die. The rest of the story is fucked up. It's about Karina feeling weird about her complicity and getting a last visit from Daithin who is like we're we're

getting out of here. We're going because those transports that are theoretically taking my people to the other place are probably just vaporizing them the second they get on board. We never hear from anybody that goes there and this is bad stuff. And then he has to hide because daddy fascism comes in. And this is some full Holocaust shit, you know. He's really trying to pull the balls over her eyes. The speed with which BLT changes her mind in this moment and gets with the program is the darkest part, right? Like the boyfriends in the next room

thinking that he's safe because he's always been safe in the very next room because dad's an idiot right uh but what ends up happening is uh as BLT is gonna give him up BLT is gonna let him down haha haha I didn't even realize what you were doing to me at all realize what you were doing to me at a hunt. Anyway, this is sad as hell, because Jereth is grabbed and perp walked out to, like, this stuff was just ready to go. Dad's in there talking to his daughter, and then, like, the very next scene he's walked out of his house into the front yard where they have posts set up to burn these people alive.

Yeah. These people have perfected a lasagna beam technology that turns everybody into a piece of Zah. You know Zah is slang for pizza, right? False. It's lasagna. Could you imagine being chafed to death? Ugh.

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No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans, but we're actually, we're podcasters.

Yes, probably. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. I think a lesser show would have cut back to BLT, like regretting the complicity in this,

but no, BLT is a true believer. Watching her boyfriend's edges get melted into a kind of melty, bernie cheese that really makes the best part of any lasagna if you get that corner piece. Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. And there's a button on the memory. The button is years later describing how it was this great thing that they did to the regressives to help them relocate

to a bunch of children. The last step of any genocide is the cover-up. And it's some real dark shit. Yeah, the teaching of the younger is especially gross feeling. They destroy themselves, but we can learn from their mistakes. Can we see the bowel breach? And BLT wakes up and finds that the old lady has shuffled loose this mortal coil. RSVP, old and RN lady.

If this is her story, she doesn't come out clean at the end. This is motivated by regret of doing the wrong thing your whole life. She's lived a life of comfort off the decisions she made as a young woman. She's a bad person. Yeah. She's a bad person and she should feel bad. Repenting is good, but you can only repent so much. So in the mess hall, the anorins have assembled, you know, getting ready to end the Uber ride, they all kind of agreed that this was a five-star experience. And, uh, Jor-Brell is like pretty psyched that they're in, in a city where you're allowed to have an open container in the car. And, uh, he gets interrupted by BLT who's fresh off of her

experience going through Jor-Marelle's memories. He's trying to make a toast with the red drink of sneaking ingestus past theie and BLT bursts in to really ruin this party. She tells everyone in the room about this story. This is most uncomfortable captain. It's a big rant and you can see Harry Kim is really agitated because he knows that this is going to screw things up for him and the lady he's been sweet on who takes some issue with what BLT is saying. She's like one of the people that speaks up and goes like

sounds like you had a really messed up dream but that's made up shit we never did anything like that. I really like how ambivalent everyone is to BLT's story here. You see the furrowed brows of to BLT's story here. You see the furrowed brows of not really understanding what this is all about and maybe believing and maybe not believing. Like I like how the entire group doesn't all of a sudden take BLT's side because the circumstances of this revelation are so unique. Yeah, the emotional gravity of them are so present for BLT, but she's the only one that actually experienced this. Everybody else is like, uh, okay. Right.

And Jorbrell just kind of explains it away. Like BLT is talking and talking and Jorbrell has a sort of explanation for what she's talking about. There's just like the pieces of her story don't correspond with any historical record that Jorbrell is aware of or may do be aware of. And like this is the ambiguity of this scene and of this episode that makes me really think it's powerful because I don't know whether we are

to believe Jorbrell or not. And it doesn't really matter if we do. Right. Because that's consistent with the moral of this story, that it's the erasure of the knowledge that is the true enemy of justice. Yeah, so the poo and the Punch Bowl has kind of ruined the party, and the captain asks BLT to circle back with her in an hour. And the next scene is that meeting

where the captain and BLT talk about what went down and what BLT experienced and the captain is like, listen, like it's pretty compelling and it's fucked up. And I wish there was something that we could do, but we have no law to fit their crime. And also we don't really have any right to get involved, and BLT is like, that's fucking bullshit.

They murdered that poor woman on our ship. Yeah, but Jane Wade does have an extremely subtle recommendation for her, which goes like, you know, there are still a few of the inarins around if you wanted to prostilitize to them before they're gone and she takes this opportunity to do that. Yep. Fortunately, well, Kim is out of engineering.

She meets up with Jess and the younger woman down in engineering. After being told that there's no evidence of murder in the old lady's autopsy report. And Jessyn reveals that this mind-meled that they're capable of doing can go both ways. So if BLT is cool with it, Jessyn can like hover her hands over BLT and relive the memory that the older lady shared with her. Yeah, the narins have the power to go from blow to suck. And so they do, and Jessen wakes up in that initial bedroom trist scene and the entire episode repeats. What streaming service did you watch this on?

Because when we pop into the dream, Jessen is at the top of a cliff holding a little girl. That's about to fall. And then I got an entirely different episode after that. Oh, weird. Yeah. I watched on Paramount Plus, the best streaming service. Good.

I feel like I want to bust into the boardroom at Paramount, BLT style, and tell them about the atrocity that they're covering up that is the Paramount Plus app. It's a grave injustice. You're complicit in the worst streaming service ever. When you want to watch a different episode than the next episode in a series, you can't just click on the continue watching and then click into the series details.

You have to go find that series somewhere else in the app. What, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, the the jaw braille of Paramount is never gonna understand this. It's just denied, denied denied denied. Yeah. Wow Adam well did you like that? I'm a star-checked philager. You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bullets, I don't like press and I don't like you.

It is uh obviously very heavy-handed with its analogy, but if you're okay with that, what it is really is an episode that Roxanne Dawson absolutely takes over. And I love that episode given to a main cast character to just run with. And there isn't a scene in this episode without her. She owns the entire thing. She's given, it feels like Roxanne Dawson has been given many episodes where she's made to play multiple characters or versions of herself or whatever, which, as we've said

before, is one of the great challenges to any actor. And she has graded it. And she's great again here. And I was just really delighted by her work in this episode. She made the episode as good as it could possibly be. And that's really why I liked it. What about you? Yeah, I feel very much the same way. I recently learned that Roxanne Dawson is a working director in Hollywood.

I've been watching that show Foundation. And she's directed like a bunch of the episodes of that. Really? That's a big show. That's the Apple TV show, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's an Apple show and her episodes are particularly well-directed, I think. That's cool. I'm gonna have to watch that. That's like hard sci-fi, though, huh? It's a show that I definitely watch on nights that my wife is out doing other stuff. That's a poor shot show, huh? Yeah, not really, not really to her interest things. That's a poor job show, huh? Yeah, not really, not really to her interest,

but it's a really weird show, but I like it. I'll have to check it out then. Maybe on Knights that I'm ever alone. Well, yeah, I thought this was a good episode. It is a bit heavy-handed, but I think that the point it's trying to make is not like genocide bad, which a bad, heavy handed episode about genocide would be doing. It's more about like, here is how normal people accidentally become complicit in gen...

People who would not like themselves be riding for genocide, you know, in the course of their duties, like actually being complicit in it, is more the point it's trying to make. And I think that that's a more trenchant point and makes it a more compelling episode and a more disturbing episode. I was sitting there watching it going like,

God, this is so fucking heavy. I can't believe I'm gonna be sitting in a fucking bathtub talking to my friend about it in a minute. Yeah, but that's sort of our magic power. This is what we're able to do. This is what we're best at, Ben. Yeah. All right, I thought the episode was terrible.

It made me feel really bad. In my particular genocide, there is only one person that is complicit, and that's me. I didn't come up with a name for the Hushnok that would bias everyone against them like regressives. That just makes them sound terrible. With a name as bad as Hushnak, you don't have to rename them. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that the anarens are worse than me, and I'm not that bad. Yeah, I'm just looking at the leaderboard of awful aliens, Ben. And taking up one spot as the anarens,

ticking down one spot is Kevin Uxbridge. Congratulations, Kevin. What is it about the Voyager that they keep getting to be friendly with aliens that wind up being awful? Like, this is like very much a rinse repeat of what went down with the trail who turned out to be the people that subjugated the pine cones. This is the storyline of every late 90s movie for a time like like he's too good to be true. Yeah. And he ends up being a murderer or a creepo like that's that's happening here with the Voyager. Any time the Voyager gets the hookup going forward I'm gonna be extremely suspicious. Yeah me too.

Well Adam do you want to get into the priority one message inbox and out of these tubs? I do. Let's do it. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on secure channel. Need a supplement on top of the month. Stop a month. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, our first P1 is from Ian and it is to Adam and Ben, plus future IN. It goes like this.

Adam and Ben, I've been a listener and donor since pre-disco, but thanks to the pandemic and working from home, I finally managed to nearly catch up, so this is my called shot from mid season 7 of DS9. If I manage to catch up before this airs, I'll get a second P1 to complain about having to watch Voyager, Adam's style. Panflutes, Brinner Drop. Wow, kind of playing chicken with yourself there, aren't you Ian? Yeah. I really want Ian to catch up so they have to buy another P1, but it will be so long from now when it comes out on the greatest generation. Just due to how many we have booked for 2022 already,

I'm maybe Ian, if you have in fact caught up, consider getting the follow up P1 for the greatest discovery, because I think that'll come out a little quicker. Yeah, thanks so too. And we almost never have P1s from greatest gen that communicate with P1s from greatest discovery, so that would be nice. Also Ian, complaining about having to watch Voyager? Hey Ian, you got to watch Voyager dry, not in a bathtub. Count your lucky stars. You didn't have to do it from the tub.

That would be really like a commitment to the bit if we also had to watch the episode in the back. Yeah, it's not give our game designers any more ideas. It's a good Friday, yes. Our second priority one message is from David, it is to Andrew, and that message goes like this, Happy Birthday! Apologies if this gets stuck in a temporal anomaly. Better late than never.

Thanks again for the baby shower whiskey and for all the trek watching memories. I hope you make it back down here soon for a visit and maybe we can go have some Not legal in New York fun at the range. Wow You well and happy new year Wow Not legal in New York fun at the range. What do you think that means? I'm guessing driving range and I'm guessing not legal Doing drugs. Yeah'm guessing driving range and I'm guessing not legal doing drugs yeah the driving range maybe it is it gun ranges that why the photon drop get

got played there oh that makes sense maybe it's get drunk and go shoot guns or something like that are there a lot of shooting ranges in New York I don't know I actually don't know the answer to that question I know that they have them in California but I yeah see them all the answer to that question. I know that they have them in California, but I maybe I see them all the time and basically every other city, but I don't remember seeing them in New York. Yeah. Maybe they're not legal in New York. Who knows? Maybe that's what makes having not legal in New York fun. Yeah, maybe that's all it is. Wow, well, happy birthday to Andrew and thanks to everyone who got a P1 on today's episode. If you'd like to get a P1, head to MaximumFun.org slash Gembo Tron and book it today for to come

out later this year, maybe. Don't let that discourage you. Get in there. Get in there. Get in there. This line moves fast. Hey Adam. What's that been? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?

Incredible. Drunk Shimoda! I didn't think I'd find one, but then he announced himself without saying a word when BLT goes back into engineering to talk to Jessin. Yeah. There is a person keeping an eye on Jessin, who I believe to be just sort of a security person, maybe like a chap around figure. He gets relieved of the duty of looking after her, right?

I think there's a way to be a chapaperone where you're not just staring at a person smiling creepily. Your arms crossed. And that is why this person is my Shimoda. Yeah. I think BLT is right to relieve this person for those reasons. For just being weird. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be weird. Just let her do her job. That's my Shimoda, what about you, Ben? I gotta give it to Nielix just because the image of Anara that he had in his head, the thing he was going for when he redecorated the restaurant was so, so far from what we actually see when we go to there. It's great that his instinct was like,

just throw a bunch of shit on the walls, like most restaurant ideas. Yeah, yeah. Like the episode never makes comment of it. We never see, maybe President Dayonara, they've gone with like a different decorating style. I choose to believe that is not the case. I think that this is an episode that is,

in some ways, the C storyline is just, Nielix is wrong about things. Right. Which used to be a through-lime to every episode. Yeah. So it was a nice return to form for Star Trek, Co-in Voyager. Yeah. Feels good.

It does. It feels really nice. Objection of it will do this without you. It will do it. It will do it. It will do it. It will do it. Well, are we going to have a good feeling episode next week, Ben?

We're going to be dry. At least I hope. Yeah. I think it's impossible for us to land on this square again, because we're on square 28 naked now square. It looks like the only thing in range that we could hit is a delta flyer that will jane-wass all the way up to a measure of a man episode on square 87 if we hit it. Got to say I'm really glad to be putting this square into the rear view. Like that's the danger of taking a a chute back down. Right. It's a possibly hitting this one again. We've spent so much time trying to get off the second row that once we got on the third row,

we got on a lot of troubles. Yeah. Yeah. The third row makes the second row look like the first row. It really does. And our next episode is season three, episode seven, sacred ground to save Kess's life. Janeway must test her own spiritual beliefs

by undergoing the secret ritual of an alien religious order. Okay. This sounds like fun. Sounds like a very sysco-y kind of, uh, kind of job for Janeway in the next episode. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Uh, alright, I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bone.

Wish me luck. Good luck, Ben. Adam, I've rolled a two. Two-la! Did I win? Aw, mate. Put this on square 30. We stay on the third row, but next week's episode will be dry and regular. Much like my poops. Very aspirational. Yeah. It's really great to be here.

You don't mind me saying so. Mm-hmm. Good role by you, Ben. Good show by us. You know, I think we always rise to the occasion when there's a challenge laid before us. Yeah. That challenge in this case being getting naked and wet.

Do you think people can hear the nudity the way you can hear a smile through the telephone? Oh, God, I hope not. We weren't tubiting. We didn't have video going. Just in case anybody was worried about that. You didn't. Adam was tubiting. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm really looking forward to next week's app and I think it's going to be great, especially because next week we will, we will have, I actually, as of this episode, we will have a producer on this show, Adam. I mean, you won't have edited this episode, but when it comes out,

she will be, will be her first day on the job of the expert Shimoda podcast factory. Pretty great day one. You clock in the work and you see what your boss has have done. Turns out they've recorded a tub show. Cool. Cool first day.

You see if I can call my old boss and see if I can get that gig back. It's a good thing. Oxbridge Shimoda looks like anything else on a resume and not too dumb Star Trek podcasters recording their show in a bathtub. Like the specifics of it aren't gonna show up on her resume, which is good.

Yeah, her next thing will hopefully be unaware of what she's done to her career. Yeah, we're really excited about that. Yeah, Wendy, pretty welcome to the team. We are so, so excited to have you. Yeah, and you can begin to check out her work over on the greatest discovery. Yeah, that'll be happening right away.

We should thank all of the friends of DeSoto who support the show on a monthly basis, who have put us in the very fortunate position of being able to hire Wendy. If you would. Yeah, that doesn't happen without the support. For sure. Yeah, if you'd like to support the show,

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