The Greatest Generation - Gagh.biz (S1E4)

Episode Date: February 5, 2016

Tasha Yar inadvertently breaks up a happy marriage, then gets into a UFC-style fight to the death with "the other woman." If that story isn't intriguing enough, it's also terribly racist! Also, why is everyone okay with kidnapping? Where is Worf? Finally, we discuss names for a website we don't need or want.

Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Hello and welcome to the greatest generation, a podcast by two people, a little bit ashamed to have a podcast about Star Trek, but I guess not so proud as to actually prevent them from having one. I like your inflection, the greatest generation.

Yeah. I like your inflection, the greatest generation. Yeah, I think, you know, we're on episode three. I think it's time to start testing some stuff out, maybe. Yeah. I'm one of your hosts, Ben Harrison. Yeah, and I didn't introduce myself. I'm Adam Pranika. I think that was my fault. I stepped on it.

Well, if anyone listening is trying to look up either those names, they're fake. Yeah, yeah, and if you did happen to find any any search returns for them, those aren't us purely coincidental. Right. Right. Pretty common names. Yeah, I think. Yep. Yeah, there was a guy in my college with the same name. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Yeah, idiots. Fuck you. Don't even try to send us emails or voice mails or go look at a website that we may or may not be thinking about having. Yeah, one thing we need to talk about is what our domain name is going to be. And the first thing that came to my mind was starship.enterprises. Cause that enterprises is a top level domain, but obviously that's long gone. Is there anyone who works at the internet,

internet that would just give you a wedgie for revampaging about a domain like that? Yeah. just give you a wedgie for even asking about a domain like that. Yeah, so I also came up with Darmock.exe YZ in reference to a beloved episode of Star Trek, the Next Generation, Darmock. Is Gach.biz available? The other one that I came up with, which is really like, and you may agree, as embarrassing as the fact that we have this show in the first place,

which is 1701-D dot Enterprises. Oh God, that is just the atomic wedgie of Domain's right there. How do you spell Gach? I'm, you know what I'm sure there are some Star Trek nerds who are super positive about how to spell it. But they're, yeah. Let me see. Okay, so first I have to Google Gach. Yeah, yeah, we can edit out the search part, but I think it's important to see if it's

available. That might be my favorite of all the choices. Oh, this is fun. The first auto fill when I search Star Trek Gah is Star Trek Gah Recipe. Let's see what comes up there. That might be a very special episode of the greatest generation where we decide to make that.

Oh, wow. It includes cow tongue, bay leaves, garlic, bread crumbs, rubbed sage. This is just like a lingua recipe, pretty much. Well, you'd be a fool to cook your beef tongue without those bay leaves. This is on clingon.org. Bay leaves, the warriors herb. Man, this is an upsetting rabbit hole. I don't want to go down it any further. Just when you think that we're we're being super nerdy and even having this podcast you find

an even bigger nerd or set of nerds having their own website for stuff like this and suddenly I feel a little bit better. Yeah, it's one of the very comforting things about being a fan of Star Trek is that I will never even come close to going as nerdy as it's possible to go. Yeah, we've got a lot of wedgie human shields to throw in front of us before any of the jocks come looking for these Star Trek nerds. Okay, well, Gach that biz is available at the time of this recording. Surprise, surprise. Oh, okay.

And it's the proper spelling. Yep. That's G-A-G-H. We should, you know, like edit this part out for sure, but we should be naming our episodes. Yeah. And I guess we haven't done that. I don't think they should be the our episodes. Yeah. And I guess we haven't done that. I don't think they should be the name of the episode. I think they should be like canonical to our recording.

And the name of this episode, if it were to be Gak.biz, I think would be great. Fair enough. Name of episode two could be Drunk Shinoda. I think Drunk Shinoda might be our top contribution to podcasting in the entire run of this show. Like, I don't know if we'll ever get back

to that level of sublime particularness. We really need to nominate a drunk Shenoda for every episode. I think that's important. We keep a spirit alive. Okay, okay. What he might be in heaven right now, stacking computer chips and giggling like a like a special child. Yeah, he'll always be alive in our hearts. So if we're going to narrow it down, I would say that our top two contenders are 1701-d. Enterprises and got that biz. I'm going to throw in a wild card, got that catering.

What do you think? That's a thing. Yeah, dot catering is available. Oh, God. Just to me, anything. Dot biz is inherently more funny. It's always funny, aren't you? In the regular. And I can't even explain why using any sort of comedy math, it just works. Anything.biz is inherently more funny. It's always funny area. Yeah.

And the regular. And I can't even explain why using any sort of comedy math. It just works for me. We could have both and they could both go to the same place. Listen, if we get both, it's going to be like more than $30. So I think we just have to pick one. If somebody wants to make like a troll us and buy the other, fine. But my vote is Gokdab is, and not just because I came up with it.

It really fires off the tongue, like the F word. It's two F words put together. Yeah. I love it. Okay. And it'll look great on a T-shirt. Yeah. A T-shirt that will sell to no one.

Yeah, because we don't really want to like engage with this more than we have to. I'm really excited to come to the Gach and actually put the video of that up on our new website. Yeah, yeah. We're going to use this website for all sorts of things You're more ambitious than I am Adam. Should we get to the episode? Yeah, let's hit it This is a code of honor and I'm starting to wonder if there was a reason I liked this series.

Because we are three episodes in and and it seems like each episode is a bigger turkey than the last. So if you're if you're a network and you're buying syndicated shows and this is like notably the biggest syndication series ever like you have a choice you have a choice you don't have to buy this show how many episodes are you watching before you sign on the dotted line the line that is dotted yeah to buy Star Trek the next generation I think most of the people who bought the show didn't see this far no yeah if they had I think I think they're definitely not buying and this I think most of the people who bought the show didn't see this far. No, yeah. Because if they had, I think they're definitely not buying. And this I think, if memory serves is like an episode from the first season that really typifies something about the first season of the next generation, almost like, in cuts, like you could confuse this for the original series, like,

it'll be like a camera angle, one, cut to camera angle two, and you're like, did I just go back in time 30 years or? Yeah, the blocking of the scenes looks very original series. The music even was like, sort of overtly cheesy. Yeah, and like every time they go outside, you can tell that the psych is about five feet away

from the back of the actor's heads. Yeah, everything's got a shadow on it, even the sky. Even the sky. So here's the premise. The Enterprise arrives at LON 2 to acquire a vaccine that they need for some other planet and the people on this planet are the only people capable of making this life-saving medicine and they are vastly less technologically advanced than the federation.

They're not members of the federation and they are comparatively primitive in terms of technology. So the enterprise shows up looking to pick up some of this vaccine and the ruler of LIGON2 or at least the guy that they're dealing with. Is he the ruler? Is he just a ruler? I got the feeling that he was a ruler.

Yeah, he doesn't seem to be like. That's not clear. Totally supreme or anything. I think if he were, the planet would have died hundreds of years ago, the guy's an idiot. Right. and it would have died hundreds of years ago, the guys in the idiot. Right, so anyways, like every other dude on this show so far, he falls hard for Tasha Yar. And he's also totally blown away that they have permitted women to have roles

in their society other than a land owner, I guess, because he comes from a society where women own the land and men protect the land. So he abducks Tasha Yara and that's sort of the big problem of the episode that the enterprise is trying to solve. And it's a big, like, it's the first prime directive episode. It's the next generation. It's really like, it's trading drugs for hostages.

Yeah, oh yeah. It's the story, it's sort of some Oliver North shit, right? Yeah, yeah. A lot of Reagan going on in this episode. That is the Reagan years, I guess. episode. That is the Reagan years, I guess. You know, this the abduction is already a kind of puzzling choice in the script of the many puzzling choices that were made in this episode. Yeah, they spend basically the first 10 minutes of the

episode establishing what a fucking badass Yara is like anytime somebody steps to her She like flips them on the floor She takes them to the holiday at one point and shows that she's a Pretty serious badass when it comes to a keto and then somehow He grabs her and is able to transport her back to his planet without her being able to wrestle out of his grip or whatever. Well, they refer to it a couple of times later on. Like, is it because she feels some latent attraction to him?

Oh, you think so, maybe she unouters. Maybe she's hugging me. Yeah, I feel so safe in his arms. Oh, yeah, I feel so safe in his arms. Oh, yeah. And I don't know if we've explicitly said this yet, but I think we probably should. The Ligonians are all black and styled in a very like coming to America, ask racist, African-type clothing. It is terribly racist. And, like, they're, I mean, setting aside for a moment,

like the idea that they're all, like, pretty jacked black people. Right. Who have, they're wearing, like, kind of open shirts and vests and things. And they're probably oiled up a little bit. I'm gonna say. The planet they live on is like a Las Vegas version of Aladdin. The planet is like an all-inclusive Mexican resort.

Like, it's just, yeah, it's like, what? Really low rent. Yeah. Like if this is the best they can do, it's troubling. But they've got the drugs. It's what you experience if you travel to another culture but stay within like a western milieu the entire time.

It's like the equivalent of a beach resort in Egypt that only Americans and Brits go to or You know any beach fucking resort anywhere like that is a safe place for Cruise ships to pull into So it's definitely has that feel also like Where the fuck is Wurf? During the entire thing. Yeah, Wurf definitely hasn't come into his own as like the Klingon warrior character

that he winds up being. And also, I guess isn't really in the security apparatus of the ship at this point. He's kind of a con officer i think dumb choice yeah they start warf in a red uniform which uh... really really liked flies in the face of everything we know about warf but uh...

so pecard is really like is is really like not sure what to do about this until he decides that what Lután, this ruler character has pulled is a counting coup or an honorific show of heroism that he needs to kind of get on their cultural wave length to deal with. He can't treat this like it's a criminal abduction. He has to treat it like it's a respectable show of honor, and there are like procedures within the construct of that honor to get Yar back. But another wrench is thrown on the works when they go down to the planet.

And they are basically on the verge of getting her freedom. And Lután declares that he wants Yar to be his first one or wife. And that comes as a big surprise to the Enterprise crew, but also his current wife, Yaraena. Yeah, she's not happy at all with this decision. No, she's fucking pissed. And her... She's pissed and she's ready to kill.

Yeah, so her response is challenging. You are to a fight to the death, which is apparently the only way their culture has devised. I guess there is space-faring culture, right? Like they have orbital defenses and stuff. Right, and they can transport places like they seem pretty sophisticated. And every underway except interacting with anyone else. Right. Yeah. So, uh, so, Yarr has to train for this fight. And one of the things we find out is that they, uh, we find out is that they fight with these fist weapons that are... It's like you stick your hand inside of a ball that has spikes coming out of it, and the spikes are poisoned, and they're like, it's a very sophisticated poison that can kill you instantly.

An interesting part about that scene is like, you know, the weapons are brought in in these big toolboxes, these big red toolboxes. And I think there's like three or four of them. We only ever see one. Yeah, I'm not sure if that was because they were all the same or they had like a choice, but they chose the same weapon. Yeah, it's like bird beak looking one, the spiky bird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a ball with a bird beak and spikes. But that that's seen ends with them looking out the window down into the courtyard where this fight is going to take place the next day. And Yareena is practicing on the jungle gym that they are going gonna have this fight on.

And I just, I felt very bad for the actress that they cast in this part, because she's definitely like an actress, not a dancer or a martial artist of any kind. And- They clearly just told her like, fuck around on the monkey bars down here. Yeah, and like flail around.

It's embarrassing. It's bad. Yeah, it really is. And like they don't even do her the courtesy of like going into a very tight close up so you can't see what she's doing. And there's a lot of motion blur. Like it's like a wide shot of a jungle gym with a grown woman twirling around bit.

It looks like a special needs kid practicing larping. Yeah. It's just mad. It's really bad and not intimidating at all, but they play a, you know, there's a music queue there that's like, oh my god, Yarr is fucked is the emotion that we are trying

to evoke in the audience. The music queue they should have used when they separated the ship in episode one. Right. Oh yeah, that's a great point. Yeah. The fight pops off. They established very early on that this poison is in fact super deadly when Yareena's poison

punching device flies off of her hand and hits a guy who's just sitting in the audience Right over I think they got to do something about those seats right next to the yeah, yeah like a Gallagher show You need like a like some some plastic wrap to hold up if there's ever a splash Yeah, that's ever a splash. Yeah, that's a tough break. I mean, that's, I think, why you want to bring your glove to the game. And in this scene, we sort of realized that, uh,

Heygon, who's the kind of major domo or second and command to Lután, uh, is more emotionally engaged in this fight then uh... he probably should be uh... if he weren't secretly in love with yareena i just noticed that yareena and yare are like ridiculously similar names what the fuck

that's just lazy anyways the enterprise crew has like worked some shit out. So the second yard obviously wins the fight. She like jumps on top of Yareena and they get transported up to Sick Bay, presumably, well, the, the Ligonians, you know, walk around and act outraged that the body isn't there for them or whatever. I can't remember where in the episode this happens, but there is a scene like randomly peppered in where data and Jordi are talking about jokes.

I feel like it might be right in here where data is like trying out some bits on Jordi and Jordi doesn't think they're funny. Yeah, and it, Jordi has clearly been through it a hundred of times. I think he even mentions that. Like Jordy tries to leave and Jada blocks his progress. I think Jordy was joke-raped. Yeah. Yeah. That was also the scene where he shaves with that little blue thing. Oh yeah. They never really come back to that. We never really see grooming, right? Yeah. Like this blue cube doesn't even light up. Yeah.

LeVar Burton just sort of holds it around his face. Right. Yeah. Maybe they meant to like wire an LED into it and the prop department dropped a ball or something. This is three straight episodes of like prop department bullshit. Yeah, I mean, I think that especially in this era of television, first seasons of shows really didn't get much budget to play with. We were talking on my other show about the X-Files recently and how the first season is just like a real slog in terms of set design and budgetary choices because they had zero money.

But by the time the show's popular, they really have a lot to work with. Yeah, they're famous the little more house money. Yeah, I think the same is probably true of trek next generation Anyways, this all gets resolved when lutean beams back up to the enterprise and is outraged to discover that yoreena is not in fact dead very much so but

the fact that she was dead momentarily, and then revived, I guess, means that, I guess whatever property right claim he had on her is dissolved, and then she decides to pledge her property rights to Hagon. And this is like the weakest moment of a very weak episode, because it's sort of like an awkward way

of tying up a alien legal dispute in a bow. And it's like, hard to really bring yourself to care about the legal systems of this racist caricature of what it would be like if Africans had a whole planet or something. They'd try to peanut butter over a little bit more conflict like having to do it the prime directive and why, you know, they can't just go and take either the drugs or Tasha Yareback by force.

And that's another example of like Picard basically turning to camera and explaining to the dumb viewer You know the reasons why they can't end this episode after 10 minutes right and I think hey guns parting line is you may excel in technology, but not in civilized behavior. Yeah, that's fair I guess so like that's a real game, respect game, moment right there. That's very, yeah. So anyways, they get their fucking vaccine and you are so okay and then Lutana is duly chasing by the entire

proceedings. Yeah, now, now Hagon stuck with her. Yeah, good luck, Hagon. Good luck with Marina. If her, if her, if her love making is anything like her display on the fighting field, good luck. What would you call that fighting rink? Probably really spasmatic and probably not a lot of rhythm.

Probably a little bit of a lane, Beness kind of, oh yeah a lot of rhythm probably a little bit Elaine Bennes kind of oh yeah kind of rhythm to Tough episode I read on the Wikipedia page that the director who Determined to cast only black actors in the part of all Igonians was fired for being such a racist. So go figure. It's not necessarily something that was in the script. And in fact, there's a couple of moments in the script that make me think it really wasn't

intentional on the part of the screenwriters, not to say that the screenwriters are without blame here. Right. the part of the screenwriters, not to say that the screenwriters are without blame here, but they like present the Ligonians with a ceramic horse from some era of Chinese history at one point, which makes me think that maybe like the honor code that they were, that they sort of intended in the script was maybe more loosely based on an Eastern like samurai honor code or something like that. But it's yeah it's and it's like an episode that everybody that has been interviewed about that was like a actor on the show is sort of embarrassed to have been involved with.

Yeah, they should be. It's also instructive of this era of television where they're like, wow, did we just do something really racist? I guess we'll have to put it on TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And no, like this is a season that basically has 30 episodes in it. Like I think they could have done without this one. Yeah.

Yeah. Ugh. Well. This was another episode that really took full advantage of the awkwardness of one Wesley Crusher. Oh, yeah. Uh, who, his mom left in the turbo lift for like, I wanna say like a good five minutes. He's in a turbo lift with the door open.

I was really hoping when that scene started because the scene starts with just like the turbo lift door opening on the bridge, pressure walks off and then you see Wesley like poke his head around the corner. And I was really hoping that that would just like the door would close and it would sort of go uncomment it on that he was just like curiously like peeking at the bridge. See,

that would be way more sophisticated than what we get because when I was watching that scene, I was waiting for like the ding when you have the elevator doors open too long like like someone's hitting the call button from another floor. That person must have been so pissed. Yeah, yeah. Like there's a shift change on the bridge at some point and and Wesley is just like holding the door. Well, Adam, you and I both know that that's not the only turbo lift shaft that accesses the bridge, but we do know that. Yeah. But we also know that Wesley is Beverly Sun. Right. Even though Beverly takes every opportunity to tell Picard that she

introduces him as Wesley my son. And that made me think, I don't know if you caught that. She's like, do you remember that you banned Wesley my son from your bridge? Like, yeah, we get it. We know who he is. Yeah, it's like in a student film script when one character turns to the other and says, look, David, you're my brother. So you know that I, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah. So who is this lady who has a vested interest in this young person? Doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah. And they finally like let him sit at the con, right? Yeah, this is, this is Wesley's first time, first time working on the bridge as though that's okay. I think we're all lucky he wasn't invited to sit on someone's lap. So he takes the con and then we go about our business with the rest of the episode. I think, I think a full day passes. And by the end of the episode, I think a full day passes. Like, and by the end of the episode, he's still there.

Did you know? Right. Picard beams back up and he's like, he turns to a riker and he's like, what the fuck is going on here? And rikers like, oh, yeah, like, that was my fault. And like, yeah, and you know, Wes is not going to leave once he sits in the chair. He's probably just pissed and shit in it. For like 36 hours. Yeah. I mean, I I like to think that this is a post bodily function future in the same way as a post scarcity future

but Wow, we can only hope we can only only hope. Yeah. I mean, it sounds wonderful. The series has never made an effort to show what bathroom time is like in the 23rd century or 24th century or whatever it is, but... It's a missed opportunity. We see Tasha Yare boning down with a robot, but we aren't mature enough as viewers to see someone use a urinal. Pretty messed up, man. Pretty messed up. You'd think that they could at least get like a

three shells joke going or something like that. Sorry. We're just skipping around here, which I like. You know when Tasha was giving Lutann the whole tour of the holodeck? Yeah. Like at first they give that job to Ryker, did you notice that? Like, hey Ryker, why don't you give Lutann a tour of the holodeck? Show him, show him how that works. Oh weird, yeah and then. I think, I think we were we were moments away of seeing something really fucked up Yeah, he put the finger in a skull I actually have a program running right now that is not exactly appropriate for a diplomatic occasion Hey, can you just wait down the hall

Let me change these settings. Let me let me squeegee down the black and yellow walls. Oh, I'll holler when, uh, say for you to come in. How much more impressed would Lutana have been if he walks in and it's just like a ferocious orgy? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man, that riker. God, I think they even say like, like, no one knows more about the holodict than Commander Riker will have him show you. But it's, it's Lutan

himself who wants the tour from Tasha. And I can tell he's, he's, uh, his, uh, his, uh, his man who knows what he wants. Yeah. His junk is taking the lead at that point. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Do you believe that, uh, that Yara was in fact attracted to him? That was some level. No, I don't. And I think the, I think we were made to think that, but I just, the way that's sort of another element of the racism in this script. It's like the over-sexed African character that is a somehow a threat the white woman kind of thing.

Yeah, I mean, there's that, but also like they give it such little emphasis. Like, I think Troy asks him, asks her, asks Tasha Yard. Like, you're totally into him, aren't you? Like, she sort of like, seed of doubt her. And then she sort of admits it, but she's real melee mouthed about it. It's not convincing to me when she says that she's, what does she say? It's attraction, but not love or something. Which are two totally different things. I don't know. I thought it was a weird, especially like the relationship between Troy and Yard. They're supposed to be friends. We don't know. I thought I thought it was a weird like, especially like the relationship between

Troy and Yard. They're supposed to be friends. We don't ever really see them act friendly to each other except when when Yard tries to steal some scarves in the last episode from her. And then Troy just kind of sledge shames her a little bit. Like, I don't know, that was weird. That was not convincing to me at all, and dealt with in a really awkward way. Yeah, I don't think the writers of this script are like big dance average readers. I don't think the writers of this episode know what love is. I want to know what time it is. It's time for a new segment called Who's Our Drunk Shinoda?

Oh man, I think Troy probably would be my nominee. Uh, yeah. She wouldn't be mine, but I totally get that because she's acting in a manner that's pretty far out of character. We don't really get what she's doing or why. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty good. It's a pretty good vote there. I am going to vote for Heigon my drunk Shunou Denominee.

He seems like someone who might be drunkenly infatuated with a woman he can't have. Yeah. And like, can't control himself. He can't keep himself from yelling out during the fight because he needs to protect himself. So that seemed like kind of a drunk move to me. So my vote for Drunk Shunou does Hagon.

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Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. I am La Cuita's aboard. You are aboard. Let us talk about this next episode, though. Okay. So, next episode is the last outpost. This is the Federation's first ever encounter with the hostel, Thievis Ferengi race. The Enterprise. Just one you thought we couldn't get any more racist. Yeah. Perhaps the most explicit Jewish stereotype

in television history. That is nonetheless carried through to the next two spin-offs of the series. the next two spin-offs of the series. Yeah, so I guess the enterprise and some Ferengi get sort of trapped in some sort of force field from a presumed dead planet. It turns out to be the portal, a gatekeeper, the last surviving intelligence of a superior civilization that was wiped out by their stars, Supernova, the portal captures both races, scouting teams, and test if they deserve to be spared or put down as hopeless barbarians. Yeah, I mean, I think the reception is sort of in lockstep to our feelings about it right now. Far too comical to be taken seriously in any way.

Was the description of the frangie and also while completely ridiculous, they're genuinely hilarious. So, I mean, I think this is one element that was severely lacking from the episode that we just saw. It wasn't really anything intentionally funny, intentionally unintentionally funny about the episode that we just saw. It wasn't really anything intentionally funny, intentionally, unintentionally funny about the episode that we saw. No, it was just uncomfortable and weird. Yeah, so the one thing I really strongly remember from this episode is that the Ferengy's

weapons are these blue power whips that shoot lightning bolts. They crack them over their that shoot lightning bolts. They crack them over their head and lightning bolts fly across the place and hit people. Yeah, I had a farengy action figure that had a little plastic bull whip when I was a kid. And I thought that that was like, everybody's got a fucking Reagan in Star Trek.

And I really like the creativity behind that is like a different approach to a weapon. And I think this might be the only time we see that in the entire series. You know, if Indiana Jones had a whip like that, he wouldn't have had to pull out his gun and shoot that guy in the bizarre. That guy with the Cimitar?

Yeah. Yeah. You know, the only thing that can stop a bad for Angi with a whip is Indiana Jones with a whip. Is that how the saying goes? Yeah, I think. Who's going to correct us? No one's listening. Nope. It's a good point Adam. It's a good point. Yeah, keep your emails coming. No one. I keep your emails coming, no one. Well, I have good news at the end of this episode. As we've been talking, I registered us the website, Gawk.biz.

That's great news. And I also registered us 1701-d.enterprises. Just because it's too good not to have. We're going to get tired of spelling out Gawk to all of our friends, trying to direct them to our website. So I don't know that we will be directing anybody to it. So you're a good friend. Good point.

A lot of things are crystallizing here. Yeah. Well, I think that probably just about does it for this, this app. You got anything else to add or? Now, I think we've, we've been through everything that we found embarrassing about the show. Hopefully, things are going to get better. Do you want to use your veto on the next one? No, I want to see these for Angus. How about you? Yeah, I guess so. You know,

the one thing I do remember about this episode is that the ship reveal was a big thing. The forangi fly into the Enterprise backwards. Oh yeah. And then they just sort of like pull the e-break and flip it around. Oh yeah. That's supposed to be really intimidating, right? I don't know what. That might be the only thing I remember from the entire first season. It's that ridiculous that moment was. The rest it. You've shed out of your memory is traumatic Yeah, so far for good reason. Yeah, well We will be back at you next week with that episode. I've been Ben Harrison I've been Adam Prantica. Don't Google us. Don't call. Don't write.