The Greatest Generation - Gary’s Glitter (VOY S5E6)

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

When Chakotay and Kim are the only survivors of a terrible math accident, they’re ready to go to extreme measures to set things right for Voyager. But when Captain La Forge shows up to stop their plan, survivors’ guilt leads to an all-in bet on changing history. Who is the fax machine of this episode? Has Garrett Wang won every single Star Trek prop auction? Did Harry kill someone for this mission? It’s the episode that predates the Christopher Nolanification of time travel!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Boardhead. Do it, Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I've been to our postage facility, Adam.

Oh, did you make the post office aware of our new rules and regulations? Yeah, I walked in there doing a Bill Marbit and all of the postal workers thought it was great. Oh wait, so what am I supposed to do? I'm supposed to go into the company mail call slack and look at the... Oh God, we've got a cross... we've got to cross rem, you know what I mean? You get to do that thing where you look at one thing and then another and make sure that they're the same. Crowd revenue. I think I'm seeing cross reference a crash, per per per per per per per per per per per

see. Ankill us or so I'm going to open the ones that I can confirm. We do have photos of from the senders. Okay. I'm going to go ahead and get into this. Alright. I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47.

Verify? It is code 47, sir. Starfleet emergency frequency. Captains eyes only. Did you also get the letters to their families? And the embarrassing photographs and all those? No Compromet was included as far as I could tell. Hmm, what about these flat ones?

Like these can't have glitter in them, right? The thing is, Ben, the flat ones could have the most glitter. Yeah. Get a more glitter in the flat ones than anything else. Boy, you said it. Should I just throw caution? I mean, like, this is like, we're in the transitionary period between

system and no system. Should I just open all this shit? It's your keyboard, pal. Okay, I'm just gonna open the ones that I have confirmation on. God, this is so much more complicated. Yeah, we did a bad thing. Why did we do this?

We shouldn't have let this back into our lives. I opened a beer that just has too much flavor. Oh no, not too much flavor, Adam! Oh no! Too much flavor. Just try to enjoy the notes. Alright, this first one here is from Anna in Woodstock, Georgia. I like the flavor that's enjoy the notes. All right, this first one here is from Anna in Woodstock, Georgia.

I like the flavor that's between the notes. Mmm. Of course, but... So you should have just had a jazz gummy as well, you're saying. Yep. Just as bad on it. Just as bad. Okay, good.

That's fine. Oh my goodness. Wow. Whoa. This is a baby blanket. It's a beautiful Wesley Crusher themed baby blanket. That's amazing. In the acting Ensen colors. Look at that. Oh, there's a there's a letter here. I didn't see the letter at first. It fell out. It goes like this. Do you've been and Adam, earlier this year my friend Patrick, who introduced me to TNG when we were kids, welcomed his first kid into the world and to celebrate, I had she who is my wife

make a fitting present for his son. When I heard you and your wife were expecting, I had to ask her to make another for your little one. There's a small thanks for the countless hours of laughter you had brought back. Hopefully it brings a smile to your face and is subtle enough to fly under your white straight-art. I had planned to get it to you beforehand, but hopefully your son hasn't yet become a being of pure energy and will get to enjoy it.

Adam, not wanting to leave you out. Oh, yeah. Okay, I'm paying attention. I have included something special for you as well. How do you get there? However, well, Ben gets the result of my wife's many weeks of careful labor. You get the result of a night of drunkenly rewatching lower

decks. May these coasters bring you laughter. And if not, you can at least hurl them at the hecklers at the next Atlanta live show, but not Terry, she was sweet. Thanks again for the years of house. I can't wait to see you next time you're in Atlanta, Kevin. I can't wait to be in Atlanta.

Yeah, man. Atlanta is a treat every time. Oh, man. Those look great. You've got a Maestro Da Vinci clockwork master-paterry automation coaster. Clockwork Master Pottery Automation Coasters. I love it. That's great. Man, these are nice. They're like the cork-backed. I wonder if these are of the same style that we sell on PondChamp.biz. I wonder. They look great.

We have Drunk Shemota Coasters over there that are also corked back. Oh, PS, can I get a Harry Kim drop? Something about reminds me of being in the womb. What up, Harry? Who are you? Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you?

They come as come as a pair. Who are you? Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim and your mom. Harry Proud. Who are you? Harry Kim. Chummy. Chummy. And your mom Kim and your mark, very proud. Who are you?

Harry Kim, chummy, chummy, and your mark, very proud. Harry Kim, who are you? Harry Kim. Shout out to my completely different friend Patrick, who bought tickets for us to the first Atlanta live show before you even telling me about the podcast, which resulted in my binging all of the TNG run in about four weeks. Thank you for introducing me to this silly show. You truly are the Adam Drunk on Tlaxian Champagne

to my Ben angrily screaming at his own mistakes. Yeah. Everyone has a co-host they identify with. Oh man, well thank you Kevin and thank you to Anna, she who is Kevin's wife, for this beautiful blanket. Did Anna make the coasters too? Seems like she's doing all the work over there. Yeah, it seems like she's pulling all the way.

I recently went on a trip to New York with my wife and baby, and I packed two scarves, both of which were knit by friends of DeSaudau, because they are the two best scarves I own. And my wife didn't suspect the thing. They're both Star Trek scarves and she didn't know. I have had a Wesley Crusher scarf draped over the back of my office chair since I received it. Yeah, that was one of them.

I have not found it since we moved. Oh, man! I'm still holding out hope. Yeah, you're... I still think it's somewhere. It is a beloved thing to me. As beloved is... what is that? The...

The Montucky Tapestry that Picard drapes over his chair? Yeah. They do go to... They go to a red state in that episode and observe the locals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's great. It's got to be weird to make things for babies knowing that they will be covered in

loose yellow poop, right? Like, that's just that blanket's fate, huh? That is. That's how that works. Alright. Next package I have here. A confirmed official package. Alright, next package I have here, a confirmed official package. Alright, good.

This is from Ryan and Delmar and why? USPS box that was closed with duct tape, so some really serious business here. Yeah. Something intense inside this box. Yep. The letter's right on top. Oh my goodness. This is a very formal, like it's on letterhead. Looks like a resume or a cover letter.

Oh wait, this is from Ryan Richmond, the phalloc doctor. And it goes like this, Adam and Ben, please find and close some phallocs, small, medium and large, all with flake faces. Also, I sent peppermint pigs for the holidays. These are an upstate New York tradition that I thought two liberal-minded guys would love. You get to smash a pig with a hammer and then eat their delicious insides. Hopefully you enjoy peppermint and consider this a bribe to you come closer to Albany for the double dumbass tour to colon, let's kill God. Hahaha.

Wow, that's an early front runner for the name of our next tour, I have to say. I love it, let's do it. Thanks again for the amazing P1 read, for the FALOCK, check it out again at phallock.com. Hey, stop trying to work promos into our show for free, Ryan. You know, I happen to know that there are some open

performance space up around Albany. I'm not sure if Nexium still has the contract for those locations. Oh, yeah. But like I know, I know they're unused at the moment. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna do kind of a combination like business success, seminar, slash, extremely vulgar Star Trek podcast. Yeah.

The hell of a combination. Ryan says, as of today, over 1100 hits and a few solid leads on the website. You know what that has been? The greatest Gen Bump. Yeah, that's the greatest gen bump. PS, I'd like to echo the sentiments of the Miriam FOD's out there. Keep up the great pod. You guys have been a delightful oasis during the last few difficult years. PPS, and this is in like handwriting that only a doctor could do. So I'm going to try and struggle through reading this.

Yeah. It says PPS, the only thing harder than giving away Star Trek stuff is giving away Star Trek kids stuff. So I used it to pack the box. Sorry. We've got a kids Star Trek uniform. Oh my god. This is like an original series, I guess.

It looks handmade. In blue. Oh, we've got a bunch of 3D printed phallox here. Look at those. Are these broken or do they just require some assembly? There's moments. I'm worried that they may be broken. Oh no.

Oh no. Oh, I see, wait. You gotta check the instructions. They're not broken. There's some assembly required. Not broken, not broken! Not broken! Not broken!

Wow, I have to say, this is an ingenious design. Because you just know how to handle it naturally, don't you? Yeah, it's like the Kirk camera in banana, you know? It fits perfectly in your hand so you know there was an intelligent designer. Did this guy also design bananas? We got some pepper but bin waxes another starfleet uniform. Ben, I'm going to ask you a question.

It might be a gross question. What do those uniform smell like? They just smell like they're made out of like They look antique is why I'm asking they look no that very old. These are like fleece fabric They're these are a modern fabric. Oh, yeah, yeah So if Daronne ever wants to go as a starfleet he has an option of going as a wants to go as a star fleet. He has an option of going as a commander. To roamed a couple years away from fitting into that one. Or a lieutenant.

You could swaddle to roamed in a uniform like that. This would be like next Halloween at the earliest for sure. But it might work. It might work. That's great. These are great. Thank you so much, Ryan. I can't wait to shatter a pig. Cannot wait. Are you gonna have to enjoy that when the wife is out of town?

Yeah, that's considered trife in my adopted culture, so that's something I'm gonna have to do when the cat is away as it were. It's just too easy. Alright, next confirmed box is a very suspicious looking. It's from Chris in Maple Valley, Washington. It is big. It's packed with gaff tape. This is even more serious than the duct tape one. Yeah.

Yeah. There's like a million dads in the world that make the like, oh, I'll fix it with duct tape jokes. They ain't got shit on the like off fix it with duct tape jokes They they ain't got shit on the dad's that fix it with gaff tape, right? Well, I mean they don't have the budget that the people who fix it with gaff tape have clearly Imagine spending that much on tape you used for a box So I'm a little unsure what to do here because the part that I'm looking at that would be the obvious part to open says, top, do not cut on it.

All right. I don't know how you get in without cutting. Do I cut at the bottom? Do I cut there? I think that's what you do. I go in from the bottom. Here's the thing, I don't want to criticize too much. But if you've already written on a package,

a do not open message, maybe just keep on writing, I don't want to criticize too much. But if you've already written on a package, a do not open message, maybe just keep on writing, maybe write where you do open. I don't know. Okay, I'm gonna, I think I'm, I think I'm- Watching you fucking struggle with this is so maddening.

I'm not struggling, I'm doing fine. I'm just trying to not, I'm trying to not ruin, you know you should go to Ben's birthday party. He doesn't have a lot of friends. Mom, I'm just gonna watch him like struggle to open presents. I don't know. For like an hour. Alright, we have a letter here. It's to Ben and Adam. It says, Dear Ben and Adam, I accidentally spilled Ractagino on my keyboard while watching TNG, and the resulting short circuit briefly opened up a temporal butthole during which some files

appeared on my computer. The data I received apparently originated in the RISIS system. I loaded the files into my 3D printer and the result was something I felt you needed to see for yourselves. I'm sending this to you because I couldn't think of a better place for it. There was a document attached, which I'm also including all the best Chris. That's a well-written letter Chris. The attached document from Commander William T. Riker, USS entrepreneur quote, big D. Starfleet UFP 1701-D. Dear Commander Riker, the high council of the rice and heat knee wishes to congratulate William T. Riker on reaching Gold Press Latinum status

on Rice and loyalty rewards program. This impressive accomplishment entitles you to free lifetime membership at the exclusive Jamar Roan Zone resort and casino. The sounds like a season three of the white lotus, am I right? Yeah. We are also pleased to offer you this limited use replicator token, which entitles you

to create two personalized horgons performing your signature Riker maneuver. We look forward to seeing you at our luxurious resorts again soon. Sincerely did you come yet? Asterovropes, Supreme Chancellor of the Rice and High Council. That of course came on this delightful... That is great.

...postcard. They sell these postcards at the... at the Rice at Gift Shop, apparently. So, there's an interior box here, and this is a shiny black box that looks like it's got kind of a 3D printed buckle of some kind. All right, so I'm opening this up.

And uh. Oh, wow. So what we have. Whoa! Our two full-scale, raker-themed, horror guns. two full-scale raker-themed horkons. But with one leg up for swinging it over the chair that the raker in question is about to sit down in. And this box is like felt-lined. The packaging is like as impressive as the 3D print, honestly.

Unmentioned in the letter from Chris is one raker Horgon is none, and two is one. Yeah, that's why we have two. There's one for each of us, you know? That's great. Wow. If we go out on tour with the Riker Horgons, we can leave one safely at home, you know. Great work. Yeah, it really stupendous work. That is...

fantastic. I can't. Yeah, it really stupendous work. That is fantastic I Can't really amazing him. All right. I'm back on being glad we have the channel open for For the gifts all right. We have one last package here that I see a verified Sender photo of okay. All right. Oh, man, and this one is from Adam and Calgary Alberta came all the way from overseas in Canada wow we were just talking about Calgary Alberta the other day what an interesting coinky dink just because we did a show in Edmonton one time and basically everybody that we met was like

why did you do this in Edmonton when you could have done it in Calgary? I had to drive all the way from Calgary. That is not a distinct feeling after most shows that we do. We get a bunch of why did you style questions. A lot of packaging here. Interior box wrapped in some black tissue paper. There's a letter to us here on the outside. Easy to find.

Points for ease of finding. Wow, this is nice. Hey stationary here. Dear Ben and Adam, I've never sent anyone an unsolicited marital aid before. Wow. But this just felt right. Use it however you see fit. Be it active duty or finding its place among your impressive Horgon collection.

I love your shows, keep up the good work. Cheers. Adam. PS, I sent a P1 in August with a list of weird names. And I was chided for not sending a pronunciation guide. What I sent was the pronunciation guide. perfectly delivered, so thank you. Wow. We chied because we love. Yeah, we do. What Adam is sent is a Leonardo's eventually ornithopter model. Wow!

It's subtle! I think this is a product that you can buy. Yeah, like from a museum. Like a museum gift shop. The horneous product that you can buy in a museum. Yeah, sure is. Oh, man, and it's all the parts. It looks like wood.

Yes, it's made from wood. Just like Maestro would have had access to back in his day. That's great. Wow. Well, we have a few more packages here. I'm going to have to get with BT on verifying the senders before we open them, but thanks to everyone who sent something in.

This was fun, I'm glad we got back in the swing of this. I am glad to. Good job, friends of DeSoto, that was nice. It's a new year. It's new package opening fun times. Yeah, back in it. Yeah. Back in with additional screening.

And Adam, we have a new episode to talk about today. A new old episode of Star Trek Voyager. Would you like to get into it, my friend? What a way to kick off the new year, Ben. What an episode to kick off the new year. Star Trek Voyager Season 5 five, episode six, time less. Rebirth course. Unless you've got something a little bigger

in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Ah! It's a Lovar Burton episode. I noticed that. I mean, it was hard to ignore at a certain point. Right, two credits. We'll do that. We open on the ice world of Hoth.

Yeah. Yeah. You hear all the wind whistling. This is probably that same planet that spot crash landed on in that movie and watched the destruction of Romulus from the surface. I really love how long these figures are shrouded without knowing who they are. You know, like the familiar beeps of a tricorder give away that they're starfleets. Yeah. But besides that, you don't know who these guys are as they're trudging through the snow. It kind of reminded me of the away mission on Ceti Alpha 5 also. Yeah. They're, I think in the same away mission jacket and pants that Quark and Odo had

to share. Remember in that one episode where they're stranded on a mountain and like one got the pants on the other jacket. Brown, you agreed to take turns on your caress. Nice call back on those. What they find at him is a Voyager sickle. Yeah. I love the flair for the dramatic. They go through the trouble of wiping off snow from on top of the ice. When there's a quarter mile of the ship in front of their position,

uncovered by that snow. Yeah, unlike a perfect ice-skateable sheet of ice. a perfect ice-skatable sheet of ice. Yeah. Like Wayne Gretzky's backyard growing up sheet of ice. Striking image. See in the silhouette under the ice like this. Really cool stuff. The glacial fractures are stable we find out after the credits. So they get to beam inside.

And when they beam in, the Voyager is in really, really bad shape. Would you say this place is a tomb? Not exactly the way I remember it. Man, I'm getting some really strange readings in here. I mean, it's in bad shape, but also the ice has preserved the birdies. Yeah. So there is no smell, which I think is useful because when they take off their face masks and take in the fullness of the thing, we see that it's Kim and Chicoche.

I kind of regretted hearing the description of the episode at the end of last week because I think at this point I might have thought that this was a naked now. Yeah. Call back like, oh, they got the naked now disease and everybody's an icicle again. Right. It's icicle in icicle. Yeah, right. Wherever you look. Yeah, it's not like you open the shower

and a frozen body falls out. It's you open the shower and the whole fucking starship is frozen. They turn a corner and someone is inside the flutter stuffed animal. Yeah, frozen in place. Yeah, that'd be really sad. It's Harry Kim and Chicoce. They take off their their hoods and their ski goggles and balaclophas.

They're exploring the ship. They say that the gel packs are frozen solid. So the computers all fucked up from that. Yeah. I love all this. I love how the sets are treated. I love how atmospheric it feels, especially with the sound.

Like, things that are frozen have that specific sound, and everything they touch is frozen. So even when it comes to like putting a puck onto a wall computer so that they can try to operate it, like even that has that specific crunching, it's really great. The sound design and the design of the snow and frost everywhere is super good.

Sometimes when you see that stuff in TV and movies, it can look really fake, like whatever they're spraying on, whatever flocking they're applying. It looks good when it's still, but then when somebody wipes it, it's like very clearly not snow or ice. Yeah, I mean, even the flocking on Chico Te's hair

looks very realistic. It does. Yeah, the computers aren't great. They get to the bridge. The bridge is, I'd say, I would like to see this footage in HD, because I'm guessing that some of what they did to protect the bridge set from all the ice that they brought in would be a little bit obvious

because you can see like crinkly sheets of plastic on stuff in a couple of places. But yeah, the bridge is full of frozen corpses including a Janeway sickle. Yeah. And then they a Janeway sickle. Yeah. And then they find a seven sickle, and that's somehow great news. What were you hoping for here?

Because like I remember being very struck by when they're sort of taking stock from what the computer can tell them, that I wanted to know if the ship could fly. I was at this moment in time believing this to be a salvage operation. Let's take the ship with us. Right. And they sort of allude to the idea of crushed decks and stuff.

And at that point, I was like, she won't fly. They can't even get anything going. And that mystery of what exactly they're doing there, the longer you can stretch that out, the better. And I thought that was a really effective here to tease what they're doing here. You wanted to find out that they were like rich people that live in the Midwest

and they could flick a switch and it would defrost the driveway. I wanted some plot edging. This is what I wanted. And I got it. Chico Te broadcast up to Tessa. And Tessa's on the Delta flyers. She's just some lady.

Yeah. What's she doing up there? She beams up the corpse of seven. Yeah, they're just gonna leave Janeway down there? That's not what they came for, man. Yeah. In Six Bay, Harry Kim has put a puck on a computer panel and gets the doctor going. Please take the nature of long time no see.

I'm super. I go by Harry now. The doctor is shocked when he materializes and sees what a mess the Six Bay is. This is a fun moment to return to later on because what we learn from this moment is that the doctor wasn't on during the mission. Like, they turn the doctor off

during one of the most dangerous things the ship has ever done. Why would they do that? Yeah. Do you think, like, did he turn himself off when it was clear the ship was gonna crash? Yeah, he was like, well, fuck this. I don't wanna, like, live through trauma.

I'd rather not know. Like if you were on an airplane that was going down and you had the ability to like just go to sleep, wouldn't you? I would probably choose to do that a little early, like earlier than most. When you were done jacking off, I mean, I mean, I think that it's like one goes with the other, right? Like when you're in your refractory period, it's so much easier to fall asleep. Yeah, that's true. It's just one less thing on your mind.

We're here to change history, says Jakote. Yeah. That is a movie preview line if there ever was one. Yeah, that's like next level like reality show contestant. That's one step above. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make history. Yeah, that's like next level like reality show contestant. Yeah. That's one step above. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make history.

I hit pause a couple of times during this episode. And something has happened to the Paramount Plus app, and I don't know if you've noticed this. Again, do not use it. So I wouldn't have. I feel like I am queuing it for Paramount Plus. And I have notes been because when I paused the episode, a Sonic print ad appeared on my screen like for the hedgehog or for the place where you buy a hot dog and a slushie, the hot dog and a slushie

restaurant on the application that I pay for to have without ads. Wow. You've really got to be paying a discounted CPM for an ad that somebody is paying not to see, right? Like, like Sonic has to anticipate that like a good percentage of the people that see that ad are going to be actively mad, both at Paramount and Sonic for showing them that, right? Isn't there more value at self advertising

than a Sonic ad? Like if I'm watching a Star Trek show and I pause it, tell me that the next season of Picard is coming on at a certain date. Like, that would make some sense, right? Yeah, yeah. Hey, well, we're talking about it here, Adam. And now Sonic's gonna get the greatest gen bump.

Work, didn't it? God damn it. Fuck! This fucking worked out great for them. Not even hungry. 30% of the friends of the Soto, you know, like the people that aren't going to foullock.com just got in their car and drove toward the closest Sonic, you know. Yeah, it really works. It's really sad to think about.

After the commercial, we come back to an office party and engineering. I loved this. The way the warp core is all multicolored and everyone's clapping, there's like different frame rates happening. Like it's very atmospheric. It's slow motion flashback, but then we go to full speed eventually. It's the unveiling of the quantum slipstream drive,

which appears to be something that you can modify a normal warp core to do. Right, right. We didn't see any of this modification happening. I like that BLT smashes the champagne against the railing around and not actually against the drive itself. Yeah. Good move.

It was very wise of her or doesn't miss the railing. Yeah. It's a long way down to the bottom of the warp core. Yeah. It looks like she gets kind of soaked by this, right? I thought the same thing. Like Roxanne Dossen plays it off. I mean, we're praising how good of a smash it was, but like, the longer you scrutinize it, the worse it is. Yeah. Yeah. She's stating their dripping while the

captain gives her grand eloquent speech about the next generation and interstellar propulsion. her grand eloquent speech about the next generation and interstellar propulsion. And this is a bit of counting your chickens before, is it not? The longer you think about it, the more shocking it becomes. Like they're toasting pre-success, which can still get you pregnant, Ben. Right, yeah.

It's like every scene with a control room has the moment where the papers go up and people are toasting and then there's like an ominous Facts coming in that nobody's noticing and that's the role that Tom Paris plays in this episode He's the facts machine. Yeah It's a very Stephen J. Cannell type of celebration here I just want to meet the big careful, because I want to say this once. I want to meet the big careful, because I want to say this once. It's a very Stephen J. Cannell type of celebration here, isn't it? Yeah, I spent so many days. He would love this.

You really would. No one liked a good time more than Stephen J. Cannell. Yeah, like nobody partied harder than Stephen J. Cannell or Seven of Nine, who is completely white girl wasted off of one glass of champagne. You're intoxicated. Impossible. I really love how her drunk Borg's talking is.

Like the perfect combination of drunk speak and Borg's. Yeah, yeah. Whoever wrote this dialogue, perfect job. It's so funny. The borg, I love you man, moment is really good. You are my mentor. Yes, we are as one. How would you like to be the server at the office party of the office where you work? Because I saw a couple of engineers floating around with a tray of champagne and I'm like ouch.

Yeah. That's tough, right? Hey, Gary, since you didn't really help on the quantum slipstream drive for the big party, we'd like you to hand out champagne. Gary, maybe take an hour off of your shift of dusting and wiping all of the flat services and engineering. And maybe dispense a bunch of the champagne and pass it out. That'd be great. So BLD, who should we have passing out the champagne? Well, so remember, Gary got most of the Who should we have passing out the champagne? Well, so remember Gary got most of the calculations

for tying the quantum slipstream into the EPS manifold wrong and it cost us a week of work and we just had to go back and redo everything we asked Gary to do. I kind of think this is the first thing I can think of that Gary wouldn't fuck up. This fly that Mielec gives me L.T. I totally forgot about the fly.

We must talk about this fly before moving on. Try to imagine a fly the size of a squirrel. What did he call it? The fur fly? The talaxian fur fly. And it looks exactly like it's named. Tlaxian fur fly auction is the search term I'm putting in. Oh no. Garrett Wong, also the winner of that auction bin.

Ha ha ha. Oh man, he's posted on Instagram of what it looks like now. What's all that white crust on it? Oh! Yeah, I mean, this would be a thing I might display. Instagram of what it looks like now. What's all that white crust on it? Yeah, I mean this would be a thing I might display under glass. It's gross as hell. I had this little fellow preserved. He hung in my engine room for six years. Cute. Wow, this did sell on eBay at some point for $355. Oh, that's value. In 2008.

Somehow this is more disturbing than the nub and bug. Because it's hair, right? There were only five bids on this. Are you fucking kidding me? Is there a guarantee of authenticity on that product? Let's see. I'm trying to scheme the description. Doesn't think I'm going to certificate of oxenthicity, but it does say the fur is worn

off in a few places. No, I bet. The head and one of the legs have broken off, but are included and can be reattached. Then why don't you do that before selling it? This is a person that didn't care to get top dollar. Yeah. That's not how you make bank in a Star Trek auction. In the same way that seven is great at talking drunk, the faint praise that two-fuck levels on Mielex here in reaction to this fucking fur fly is great. He shuts him down.

Mr. Mielex, you are an unending source of astonishment. I thank you, Mr. Vulcan. Tom is looking over some readouts on a screen and he's like, dude, I don't feel good about this party. This is bad. Like, this is not good. This quantum slipstream, there's a phase variance and it's going to fuck up.

And Harry is like, man, you need to chill all the way out. Everybody believes in this but you. And if it's going to help you get over these bad feelings, why don't we go down to the holodeck, turn off the safeties and simulate this so that we can feel something anything. Pairs is like, don't you think it's weird that we've all learned how to fly the quantum slipstream, but no one has learned how to land it? Yeah, what's Jane way up to? This is that moment of the episode where you're like, how does this group of professionals not know this before the party?

At what point is the party floated? And everyone joins in unison, yes, this is a good idea and the right order to do things. It seems crazy. And Harry Kim has this real hit me again energy when they run the simulation for the 27th time and die. He's like, yeah, no, no, no, like,

it's just about putting the calculation in in time, man. Like, let's just run it one more time and perhaps it's like, dude, we've run it so many times. This is not going to work. Yeah. It's too cludgy. I got other things I want to do on the last day of my life. The results of this simulation are kind of a drag at the end of the party. It's like the aftermath.

They're still like red solo cups with half a beer in them, all over engineering, and streamers still hanging from the rafters. Someone's got to pick up that confetti. I know. Like Gary, get in here. Yeah. This is Gary's glitter. Wow. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man.

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you put like a bunch of olive oil and Italian dressing on the sandwich, right? Isn't that what it is? Just exactly what I was gonna say. Yeah. Let's put Harry in a shuttle. We'll put that shuttle out in front of the ship. Harry will relay the variance back to Voyager

so that the ship can compensate for all the problems that it would run into without the shuttle out front. What TNG episode was that? Was that booby trap? Were Picard had to do that? Yeah. I feel like they could have just said, let's booby trap this bitch.

And everyone would understand and we will have saved three minutes of conversation. Oh, Gary. Gary, glitter, now! Oh, Gary. It's also kind of calls back that time that Harry was being a bastard to Tom Paris and then like Tom, like wouldn't let it drop and Harry had to do all the risky

shit for the rest of the episode. Like, why does Harry have to go in the shuttle? Look, another question, probably not highest priority, but if Harry is out in the shuttle, who's running stick on Voyager? Yeah, seriously. Like, there's a lot of unproved who-sort. Yeah.

I was shocked that no one mentions that Paris is the best pilot on the ship. Yeah, Paris Not a part of this program. He's got a pilot Voyager. That's the reason. I guess so But it seems like the riskier piloting would happen on the Delta flyer It's the math skills that Harry is being hired for for this job If I transmit the code back to Voyager using my clarinet, that would be the most efficient way to do it. There's sort of a sunk cost fallacy in this. Here's like, we've got to still proceed

with the quantum slipstream because we put all this fucking work into building it. We've spent months on this. We've got these crystals that are already decaying in the warp core. We gotta got these crystals that are already decaying in the warp core. We got to use the crystals. Crystal. This all feels like the confluence of the worst vehicle design moments in human history have conversations like these, right? Like it's a super cold day, but Challengers got a launch, baby. Like we can't hold this thing up. Look at

all the work we've done. These are the executives that chose to ship the 737 max before it was actually safe. But in, I mean, to the credit of the first like 150 times. It gets at the end. If only. And by saying that, I mean, I think different decisions get made if those are the risks. Right. Objection noted will do this without you. Do it. Do it. Objection noted will do this without you. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Dumped a bit of a bucket of ice water on what was supposed to be a pretty celebratory We'll do this without you doing it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Dumped a bit of a bucket of ice water

on what was supposed to be a pretty celebratory night before the big day tomorrow. But Chicoote and the captain keep their dinner date. And Janeway has really pulled out the romantic stops for a dinner where it goes unstated, but the tension in the scene is very much that Chicoete is sad about her impending reunitement with Tom Mervins. For the clothes you love to live in.

It's so weird because if you were to just watch the scene on mute, you would think this was a sort of lovers quarrel. Like, there's intimacy in the way Janeway touches him. Yeah. The way the lights are down low and the candles are lit, and this is a proper meal and the first quarrel. Like, there's intimacy in the way Janeway touches him. You know, the way the lights are down low and the candles are lit and this is a proper meal and stuff. Their facial expressions look argumentative, but not in a heated way.

But the dialogue is all professional. Anybody that ever had like questions about whether you should ship these to is immediately disproven by the energy in this scene, I would say. Chicoote is like, I really feel like I should use protection. It's a responsible thing to do. And Janeway is like, I really feel like the risk is worth it. Jam it in there.

I want you to hit it raw. I want you to hit it now, Chicoote. This may be your last opportunity. There's coffee in our last night, and adult quadrant. I'd say that's special enough. We get a nice transition here because that pre-mission report

that Chico Tay was holding onto with one hand dissolves into the frozen mission report of many years later. It stayed right there. Even when they crashed on a planet, it stayed on the table. Yeah. So we cut back to the future, I guess, and old Kim and old Jakote are in the locker room area of the Delta flyer getting out of their away team, Garb, talking to the doc.

Were they describing the scenes to the doc that we were just watching? That felt a little unclear. Yeah. The doc is like, why are you telling me about the sexual tension of your dinner? Ha, ha, ha. Is that really your main to what we're doing here? Yeah, like what do you imagine I'm gonna do

with that information now? Well, I'm here to tell you as a medical professional not using protection will increase the chances of pregnancy. Should go today. Sounds great. Listen, like, yes, the majority of the adults sexually active population does have herpes, but like you should also like use a dental dam. Like, that's the medical recommendation, all right? The doc is a great proxy for the viewer here

because he's asking all the questions we would have about where and when this happened and what happened to the crew and like all the follow-up questions come out of the doctor's mouth. And the summary is that Janeway Crash landed the voyager during this slipstream drive mission, and the Delta Flyer made it all the way home without them.

Yeah, the Voyager crashed like on the doorstep of the A Quad. Everybody on board was killed on impact, but for some reason not turned into cat food. Yeah. The bridge of the Voyager did not look like the bridge of the event horizon for some reason. This is the most we've gotten to look at Harry Kim, yet in this episode, and he is so dark and angry looking.

He's acting like he may be Mayquise now. Mayquise? He really is, yeah, I got that energy too. He tells the doctor like, when I got back, I got really into Paul Verhoeven movies, and that's why I look like this Isn't it a little late for that? Yeah, he and Chico did really seem to have a hate on for Starfleet for abandoning the Search yeah, and Harry has also just been living with a lot of guilt because the calculations that caused the slipstream Trip to fail were the calculations

that he was making. So he spent 15 years feeling like survivors guilt but also reworking his math. But he's got to let a anger too, right? It's not just the guilt part. He's angry at Starfleet. He's angry at himself. He's willing to commit crimes to get back to this point. And he's willing to break the temporal prime directive, which is why they got seven's body from the surface. He stopped playing clarinet years ago. Yeah. He doesn't have any sort of creative outlet anymore.

He's like, I used to almost be like a sex addict, I would say, and I haven't fucked in like 10 years. Part of it is this sort of mud flap. I'm hanging off the back of my head. Yeah, I've made myself somewhat unfuckable. Like, I know that I still have the like super sexy bone structure, but the hair is really doing me no favors. Yeah, I've got the sort of leather jacket and generalized affect of a guy you don't really want to talk to in a card room.

Who puts down his name on the list as like just a city, like Chicago. No one's actually named that, but that's what everyone calls him. Yeah, weird. So they start explaining to the doctor that the reason that they grabbed seven's body is that she has an interplexing beacon in her head, and that will enable them to send a message back through time.

Just like the Borgs did in first contact. Yeah. Borg, sounds Swedish. And they can prevent this shitty-ass future from ever having occurred. Yeah. All we need to do is desecrate her body, kind of massively. That shouldn't be a problem. She looks reasonably well-preserved.

And then plug those parts into this other thing we got from Starfleet. It's a real rogue mission. This is a real, like, Star Trek III situation that the doctor has found himself in the middle of. Like, they already stole the Delta flyer. They already rated the like warehouse that they keep the arc of the covenant

and also the Borg material and still some extra thing that they need. And their fugitives, like, there's like word that Starfleet is on the case and looking for them and is like several hours away. They're wanted for treason. The prop that I wanted more than the fly was this red box, this pelican case, looked amazing. Classified pelican case.

Yeah. Check that into my veins. That thing is awesome. That is really cool. How much did you want an entire season about this heist, though, because so much work was done leading up to this, that I could have used a four episode arc. Man. For sure.

Seriously, I mean, this is a season of Star Trek Picard or Star Trek, just get free, that they're describing, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. But yeah, so they stole this thing and the Doc meets Tess and he's like, what's her deal? Kim's description of this is so bizarre. He's like, they're doing sex together, you know.

You know? He put his thingy in her thingy. And now they're just, they just hang out all the time. I don't like it. Yeah. Yeah. Even decades in the future, Kim is made to watch. It's also like kind of implied that like,

Chico Tay has still got a thing for Janeway, right? Like when he's talking to Tess, it's clearly like, yeah, here in her voice still, still really intense for me. Yeah. Yeah, they hear like a moment of audio from a log. She records and it it totally stops them in his tracks Yeah, really sad stuff. The scene is so weird though too, right because Chico Te in this very same scene is like look babe I know everything we've done together for 15 years has been about erasing you from my life. But now that we're up to the moment of truth, I just want you to know we don't have to

do it. You just say the word, babe. We'll cancel this whole thing. This signal we're broadcasting into the past, it will erase the fact that we were ever in a relationship, that we were ever live. And test is like, well, how would that make me look? Chico Te, if I did that. Hey, you thought you were doing a sunk cost fallacy thing

at the beginning of this episode? Ha, ha, ha. I saw what you're face did when you heard that moment of Janeway's captain's log. Yeah, you basically nutted in your silver away team suit. We haven't taken a bath together in years. But really, Tessa is as supportive as anyone can be, and that may be the most science-fictional part of this entire story.

It's she's like, yeah, cool, just like many other people who you've fallen for, Chico-te, I will soon be erased from the record. Whatever that cult leader thing that Chico Te had that made him good at leading Mayquise. Mayquise? Must be at play here. You think he's reverse-cycologizing her? Yeah, she is so down to just erase everything

about herself for him in this way that is like, really creepy. Would you steal for me? Yeah. Would you take the brand test? Would you erase the last 15 years from your life? Damn. That is real ride or die.

Yeah. It's real time ride or time die, isn't it? Mm. Oh, everything sounds cooler when you put time in front of it. Right, got to get the, Latinum get the, Old, better large, rich, here.

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Uh, G-Wong. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah. You must have spent a lot of those residual checks. Ha, ha, ha. On props, he could have just taken from set. Why did he do it like that? So, you know, he's helping them, like, configure this skull to, like, get the broadcast

signal that they need to send the thing on or whatever. Yeah, that's a well put. Kerry Kim is talking about their heroic homecoming. The only two survivors of the Voyager incident were really fetid when they returned. Like lots of speeches, lots of admirals, like slapping them on the backs. And to matter fireworks,

a Vulcan children's choir, Apple Mac and Tyre even wanted me to marry his daughter. I also did sex. Hahaha. Like I did sex. Ha ha ha ha ha. Like, I did it like a thousand times in that first week. It was awesome. I touched so many boobs. It was cool.

It was really cool. You would have loved it, Doc. Kind of an empty description of the celebration, right? Because while they're smashing just constantly, in between the smashes, Kim feels the sadness of what he feels like is his responsibility. And he signs right back up to go back into space.

He's like, look, I cannot smash like this forever. I need to go back up, search for Voyager. And so he does that for a while, but... If I keep going like this, my dick is gonna fall off, and then years from now, it's gonna be in an online auction for screen-use Star Trek prop. They can tell that sometimes I have to use the clarinet. The doctor at one point was like, hey man, that sounds like you got it pretty good. When you went back, they really treated you right.

And Kim was like, no man, you have no idea how shitty it was. I really love this episode for Garrett Wong. And I think this is the scene that's why, because you need to have both gears to tell a story like this. You need to have the, I'm uncomfortable with the attention I was receiving for doing the heroic thing. And also the, there's nothing I've ever hated more than the organization that made this entire thing possible.

And then betrayed me. And carrot Wong has both of those things. But mostly what we've gotten from him after five seasons has been just like arm swinging, Ensign Kim playing clarinet and occasionally being the stick man of the ship. You know, like this edginess to him, I kind of crave it.

And I hope that there's more of this in the remaining seasons of Voyager because like, I think there's something here. I know. There's almost like a lethality to it. Like, did he kill a guy to steal that box with the board guy to minute? I would believe it after this scene.

Yeah, no, like the dark Brandon of Harry Kim is like a thing that I can't even believe that they wrote an episode around, given how little of that they've given him to do in the preceding seasons and like is that what makes it hit so much harder is that we just not gotten a whiff of it at all and now it's like there he is Yeah, there were the occasional TNG episode that gave like Marina Circus a whole bunch of shit to do and a death to get to with her character that just made you like mad at other TNG episodes

for having so badly underused her. Yeah. And this episode kind of smacks of that for me with Garo Long. Yeah. But the upshot of this scene is to convince the doctor to join team fuck with the timeline. Like they tell him about how illegal what they're doing is, and they're like, so, you know,

like you can help us or not. And the doc is down to clown. Yeah, I mean, where else is he going to go? I mean, I'm sure he would enjoy a hero's welcome. Like part of it is, like there's a little bit of salivating happening when Kim tells the doc like about their heroes welcome. Right. And that, you know, it wasn't that long ago that the doc was fantasizing about his own hero's welcome. Yeah.

Once he returned. Right. That's not a part of this. So we cut back to the past and the Voyager is in space with the Delta Flyer out in front of it, and they're getting ready for a brush with history as it were to crew on the Delta Flyer, Chikote, and Kim go through the checklist. We find out that the lunch is going to be Salami sandwiches, and I have to assume that this is a big part of why Ensen Kim fucked up his math. Like getting a bad lunch on like a really important day like this.

No problem. I'm a vegetarian. How can it not be related? I wonder why Star Trek got so far away away from cultural culinary touchstones. Like the way Keko would share food with O'Brien was like made into a punchline on Deep Space Nine, but it was a representation of like Japanese culture on the show in a way where I feel like, Selami sandwich kind of betrays what Instant Kim could be enjoying on a trip like this. In a way that kind of made me sad. I mean, Janeway made Biryani for Chicoate in that earlier scene. Yeah, I guess you get one of those per episode. Yeah.

Yeah, one good dish and then we have to balance it out with one bad dish. Yeah, there's only and then we have to balance it out with one bad dish. Yeah, there's only one example of chef signaling per show. Is seven hung over in the scene? I was so craving a call back to that. Oh. This is the day after the party. Yeah. She was drunk for the first time.

It would have been great if they're like, why is everyone talking so loud? Can we dim the bridge illumination by 20%. How would you guys feel about me doing this stuff from the ass lab, given just it being a lot quieter and easier to focus on my work down there? Yeah, that would have been great. Yeah, so they get started on their go

and we now start to kind of cut back and forth between the president and the future. And man, I think that the cutting in time stuff in this episode is a really great combination of script and direction because it is so lively and so like when it puts you off balance and you forget like which part of the timeline you're in, it felt so purposeful.

Because we cut back, like they're getting ready to go and now we're back with like tests in Chicoetay on the Delta flyer and they get warned by Captain LaFourage, not to do the thing that they're about to do and like the, the risky thing that we're about to do the thing that they're about to do. And like the risky thing that we're about to do being the thing that is being built toward in both timelines is such a fun dynamic. And such an unusual use of like,

inter timeline cross cutting. I'm really glad you get 50% more than just a cameo by LeVar Burton going, I'm Captain LaForge and I have a ship. I'm just here to tell you to draw down like you get more than that because this scene between him and Chicoete is pretty interesting. It really is. Because they're kind of at time travel heads about what they're trying to negotiate here. And it's funny how equal 15 years of recorded history is to, in Chicoet de his mind, all of his family and friends that he's made on Voyager. Like, I'm not going to let that go.

Just like the Forge isn't going to let go with the last 15 years for him. I'm asking you again, stand down and return the transmitter. You know I can't do that. And you know I have to try to stop you. It's really intense. They have a kind of a game-recognized game,

like, agreed to disagree at the end of this. Like, you got to do what you got to do. I got to try and stop you. When I see the galaxy class coming around the corner, I will not hesitate. I was headed toward the heat comparison. That's the discipline. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Chico Tate talks about how few attachments he has and his lady in the background is like, What? I told you I would erase 15 years of my life for you. What was on that shit when you took me on the date and I was telling you about how I studied graphic design at Parsons and then you took me to your weird house that has no furniture. Did that mean nothing to you?

What is being alone but not lonely even mean? Kind of the same thing I think. Yeah. I know you don't want to do it. Do it. Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself.

Back on Slipstream Day. Bangers in the stream. That is what they are. Yeah. And this is the moment where Harry Kim has to start calculating the corrections in the phase variance that need to be sent back to the ship, they send them back to the ship, and it's like, oh, like this, like this did not work. Yeah. Because the phase variance fixes for a second, and then it goes back to being bad.

And Harry is like being asked to, you know, double check that he carried the one or whatever. And he's like, I can't. I wonder how much they toyed with the idea of not showing the entire timeline of the Voyager crash and whatnot. Because the reality is by them remaining in their future timeline and nothing has changed and Tess is still there and all that, like that's how you know that the mission was not successful. But when we cut back and see the entire ship crash, I don't know, I like seeing the ship crash. I'm not saying that I don't want to, but.

Yeah, because like they send the information into Sevin's head, and Sevin is like, I've got corrections coming into my Borg thing after they lose contact. They go with it, and here's the thing. I think when they crash, the thing that my mind went to was they crashed because the time paradox is rogue Kim and Chico Te caused this thing the entire time.

Yeah, but that's adding the complexity of a modern viewer onto a show that existed in a decade where the Christopher Nolanification of time travel had yet to occur, right? Yeah, I guess maybe. I don't know. This is not said explicitly, so you may have a point here, but it was definitely where my mind went and they're starting asking themselves, like why didn't we disappear?

Why is history not fixed? And we get to see the full crash, we get to see everybody on the bridge, get turned into cat food. All hands raised for the fact. It's really exciting. Yeah, it's ugly. It's an ugly crash.

Back to the future, Kim is incredulous. Chicoeté is upset because they're caught in a tractor beam. And once the tractor beam takes your ship, you can't escape because tractor beams are strong. I don't know why the scientists keep making them. Yeah. And the doc is like, look,

but the way time works is that like you can try again. If you're sending messages into the past, send one a second before the message that you sent to the past. Do it again. And Kim is like, I don't know what to change. It took me 15 years to come up with a solution that I sent back already.

We're in a tractor beam right now. You're telling me I have a minute to come up with a new solution? Fuck that, I can't do it. I won't do it. And this is another scene of Garrett Wong and like his explosiveness that I thought was great. I loved seeing this. I killed them, control yourself.

They trusted me and I killed us. They're too. Yeah, I'm feeling sorry for myself and feeling so overwhelmed by failure that I can't think outside of the box that I've been in. And my idea was like, what if the message goes back to like the day before and says like, don't do the slipstream. What if you send a message to the day before and you tell seven to grab the champagne bottle from BLT and smash it against the warp core. And then use the rest of the bottle to stab BLT. Yeah, that would stop it.

But there are 30 seconds from a warp core breach on the Delta flyer. And like everyone's content to ride this out, like whatever message that Kim can come up with, that's the bet. Like I bet he's going to figure out something. We're going to stay on the Delta flyer until it explodes to allow it to happen. And back in the past, we see what the new message is. Seven of nine gets the message like the scene we saw before. The new phase corrections are entered,

but this time instead of slipping out of the stream and damaging itself, the Voyager slips out of the stream along with the Delta flyer. Yeah. And kind of falls out of this brand of warp. And they're like, what the hell happened, Seven? And she's like, what are, like, I put in the corrections that happened inside my mind in a way that none of you can verify

and it collapse the slipstream. And they're like, are you fucking hung over? What's going on? Seven psyched. He's like, no, I swear. Can everyone just stop yelling at me for a second? Please, just please lower your voice. Please lower your voices. I'm begging you. Seven is made to look so bad. Seven is made to look so bad. That's my way. I could really just use a biscuit, like a sausage, egg and cheese biscuit. I think that would really make me feel better, right? Because my stomach, oh my God.

I have had Rhea like five times. I was asking for a broad last night at the party. I forgot my broad, but like, you all forgot your broad? Really? Yeah, that's bad. You gotta squirl him away in your coat parkets. Yeah. I've been fine in mine.

Yeah, yeah, it's like finding a mask from like early COVID in a coat pocket that you haven't worn since that winter. Oh, do not like that feeling. That happened recently to me. Look at this cloth handmade mask that a beloved friend made me. Yeah, yeah. So we get a captain's log and it's like, I have ordered the dismantlement of the slipstream because it's too dangerous, but it did save us 10 years.

So using it for just short spurts that save us 10 years at a time is not a good idea for reasons. Hey Gary, seriously? There's still shit all over the floor in here. Like, we cannot have a workplace that looks like a fucking dorm room Gary. Oh, you were gonna wait until we got home to clean up? Fuck you, Gary. Fuck you. Yeah, you think we're going through the plasma fireworks

and being fetted by the admirals when engineering smells like stale beer and has like beer pong tables set up everywhere? Are you kidding, Gary? I was sad. The dismantlement of the colorful warp drive. I liked how it looked. But there's a newfound optimism having saved

ten years of their trip. Yeah. Yeah, they turned that L upside down, didn't they? I really did. And Harry Kim is having a conference room bum out where he's like going over his math by himself and the captain comes in and she's like, Hey, you need to cheer up too because we verified the calculations that seven put in.

They came from you, man. Before I show you the contents of the tricorder, I also want to say you need to stop playing the clarinet in my chair on the bridge. You're doing that spit valve thing in the very middle of the seat. It does not look good. And she's like, I have a log entry for you. And he's like, you mean like what I did to the flotter toy? And she's like, no, no, no, that's not what I mean. I mean, like a personal log that came in with the signal to sep and you can watch it.

Do you think Janeway watched this first? She kind of had to of, right? Because what if this is a like sports almanac situation? Like, isn't it not her duty as a captain to as timeline police, there's a responsibility there, right? To make sure that future Kim doesn't give this Kim a bunch of information that could fuck them over. That guy's a criminal, that guy killed people.

So you're saying the temporal prime directive confines her duty, So both to please that. That booty. Yeah. And also protect the timeline back. Yeah. Yeah. I watched it. It just in case you're wondering. Yeah. I had to watch it. I think you broke the episode Adam. I don't think it works. He plays this tricorder message. And it's just a bunch of bits from Future Kim, like, you fucking mess. Look at you.

You son of a bitch. Look at me. Hey, man, we stole some things. Yeah. We killed some people. You have it in you. You have it in you to be the bad guy from a Paul Verhoeven movie.

Just look at me. Look at this. Can't you just picture me in like a warehouse full of cocaine or whatever? Yeah. Or like holding two oozees and like saying, you know, no time for backup. Yeah.

Yeah, I haven't played clarinet in 15 years, dude. I'm fucking. I'm fucking. I'm fucking. Jigote thinks that he is the only person that's hitting that and the camera pans over to Tessa. Yeah. He's wrong. Yeah. Guess what, Bob?

I just erased the last 15 years, but I want you to know the potential is there. Take it with you. Did you like this episode, Adam? You know, I'm maybe you to know the potential is there. Take it with you. Did you like this episode, Adam? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like Bolin, I don't like Fred, and I don't like you. I really did. It's a fun episode to watch. It's a fun episode to talk about. I love timeline storylines. Jane Whitetails came at the end.

Time travel stories and paradoxes are fucked out. No one likes them. No one likes thinking about them. I do. I love this shit. This is great. Notably I love this as a Garrett Wong episode. Yeah.

You know what, as much as this does for Garrett Wong, it continues to cripple Robert Beltrane as Chico Te here because like a romance between him and Tessa is demonstrated by what exactly dialogue like this is all dialogue and no heat for Two people that I wanted to see a little bit of steam with yeah, you know like what is hot about them? It's all tell no show. Yeah, I didn't like that like do you think Cesca crippled Chico Te in the on-screen Make-outs department like was that so difficult for people to take, given what happened there, that we just don't, we don't do that with him anymore. Yeah. Because people want to ship

Janeway and Chicoetay and we just like, we don't even want to tease them. I don't know, if that's the reason, that's a bad reason. I think that it's really just comes down to, you know, there's so much time in a single episode. No time for a handhold. Ben? Like where on the Delta Flyer would you even put a bathtub? Yeah. That's true.

Does Chicoetay handle Paris's balls at the controls? Yeah, I think so. We don't get any of that. I don't remember seeing any of that. We don't get the stealing of the Delta flyer either, which is a bummer. I'm grateful for what we do get, and I'm not upset about what we don't. What about you, Ben? I'm grateful for what we get as well, Adam.

It's a whole new year, so I'm trying to approach these things with gratitude. And I thought it was a very fun episode. I found myself pausing a lot in the previous episode. Maybe to get a Carl's Jr. hamburger or something? Yeah. Subliminally, you're feeling like that's what you want. I was pushing through it, you know. Like I liked the episode, but it wasn't the most entertaining.

And this was like super entertaining and fun. a way like I am on the record as having great misgivings about time travel as a device and Star Trek Mm-hmm time travel but in the case of this episode it really worked for me and I thought it was a lot of fun Yeah, good job. Good job. Levar Burton. Yeah, fun stuff Well, you want to see if there's any good jobs in our already on the box? I'm gonna bet on a fair amount bit. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on top.

A supplement? Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. First one we got in here at him is is of a promotional nature, and it goes like this. Do you like stories about cute space nerds solving science mysteries together? How about funny little drawings of said space nerds? Curious to find out how a whole planet fell off the grid? Leaving everyone trapped inside a video game and then parenthetically not sucked-is.

Check out Carboniferous, a new thing by the author of such beloved webcomics as Curvy and The Narts. It's reasonably short yet surprisingly thick and meaty. Curvy and The Narts was the name of my high school band. Ha ha ha. A new free episodes drop every week as we hurtle towards the exciting conclusion. And it says, start at page one by going to bit.ly slash read my comic all lower case. How did you even get that URL? I cannot believe that that was available, but it was.

Wow. What did you even get that URL? I cannot believe that that was available, but it was. Wow. This is a comic by Sylvan McDull, and he would like you to go to bit.ly slash read my comic today. Pretty cool. Going for that greatest Jen bump. The comic bump, especially bouncy. Yeah, that's a big bounce when it comes to the greatest generation.

These seem like very nice nerds in this comic. Carboniferous. I love the art style. Sylvan McDull has some real talent here. Yeah, check it out. Bitt.ly slash read my comic. Really beautiful character designs and color. Ben our second priority one message is from past Cody.

Well, it is to future Cody. Okay, so it sounds like it's sort of is on theme with the episode we just watched, right? Yeah, good call. Or is it, I guess it would be future Cody sending a message to past Cody would be on theme. So this is the opposite of the theme. It is, yeah, yeah.

All right, here's that message. Okay. okay future Cody I know you're drunk right now working away through the back catalog worried that all the therapy you're doing is for not because life is shit so I'm here in the future somewhere tell you that life is totally worth it. And awesome. Wow. Keep at it, buddy. Love. Uh, future you. Future Cody, don't you worry you're pretty little head about life being shit. Until you've eliminated every member of a species in a fit of rage. You don't know what that feeling feels like truly. As the perpetrator of a genocide who afterwards really questioned

whether life was worth living myself, I found a new way and a new return. And can you believe that when I went to attach tattoo parlor to commemorate all of that they misspelled the word Regretch? Few people know the best tattoo artists in the quadrant were Hushnak. Didn't really think that went through. Against the jokes really on me at the end of the day. I think that went through. I guess the jokes really on me at the end of the day. Ha ha ha ha.

I wasted my self on my own paternity time. What I'm trying to say is, you can find myriam reasons that make life worth living. Our final priority one of us, such today is from Kimberley, and it's to Ben and Adam. Goes like this. Ben and Adam, I'm a long time viewer from back in 2016 after Oxbridge, but before the boy became an Ensen. Wow. I've always been a bit behind and vowed to thank you

for the laughs when I eventually caught up. You've gotten me through some of the worst, dad's death and bad breakup, and added to the best, meeting he who is now my husband. Wow! Wow! I look forward to finally starting Greatest Trek. Thanks! Wow, Kimberly! That's awesome! I can't believe we got you through bad stuff. I'm excited we got you through good stuff and I'm excited that you're gonna listen to Greatest Trek. I love how Kimberly used every character in the field.

Like sometimes there are spaces, sometimes there are not spaces. Got the whole message in. Yeah, it's good stuff. Congratulations, Kimberly. Yeah, if you'd like to get a message on the show, head to MaximumFun.org slash Jembo Tron. Is that one up today? Hey Ben.

What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! Oh boy. You know, I'm tempted to give it to Harry Kim just for being like the most like compelling character in the episode. And he is compelling.

But I think I'm going to give it to Tessa for being a character that sort of seems to show up to be the person that chicoate is having sex with and no other things. Like God, he must fucking knock it out for it to be worth a racing 15 years. She is like yeah yeah, like sign me the fuck up. If I could keep going, like, if there's a bed on the Delta flyer, like let's steal the Delta flyer and go erase history, baby.

Many people believe that the reason I am so docile in my new career is the lobotomy. But the one thing that I remember is having been so thoroughly fucked. That I don't need to remember the last 15 years of my life. Yeah. I was surprised to learn this actress did 28 episodes of ER, and then it has basically not worked since, since like ER and Voyager. You cash in residuals if you were on ER, baby. Yeah, maybe she's just set.

God, that rules. That is a good fucking business decision right there. Yeah. Nice one, Christine Harnos. Yeah, why not? Yeah. Well Adam, it's time to head to goch.bizslashgame and find out how we'll be doing

the next episode of the show. Hey, can I tell you who my drunk Shemota is first? Uh, yeah, I guess we could fit that in. Is that possible? Yeah, we could try. All right. Okay. It's Harry Kim because his character

is so compelling. Oh, okay, cool. There you go. So it kind of already said it? Yeah, but you didn't know you were saying it. Yeah. All right. Well, let's move on. What do you say? Yeah. Okay, Adam, it's time for us to talk about next week's episode. Of course, that's going to be season five episode seven, infinite regress. Seven of nine begins exhibiting the personalities of people that she assimilated as a member of the collective. I mean, I don't feel like she actually did the assimilation,

right? She just kind of looked the other way. You know what, Adam, that's the same tune that people that say card bears no responsibility for Wolf 359 sing. Uh huh. It's like, you know, it's like, it's such a general action.

You can't blame any one drone. So that's it. I don't think so. That's at the next episode. It's gonna be at seven, just trying to explain it away. Ha, ha, exciting. Of course going to be it's seven just trying to explain it away. Exciting. Of course, to find out if there will be any modifiers on next week's episode, we need to head to gach.bizslashgame where we keep the game of buttholes. A wheel of the caretaker, or a runabout is currently on square eight.

A couple of squares ahead we have have the caretaker himself square, which would randomize us. And then a couple squares after that is a Coco No-No, which would be a teaky themed episode. You're required to learn as you play, roll. So, once you see what I hit, when I roll this dice. Exciting roll coming up. Could be anything.

But it isn't Adam, I roll the three. What? Tula! Did I win? Harvey. I sanded us right in between those two things. Damn. And it's just nothing but a regular old episode next week.

All right, I can get with that. Yeah, yeah, that'll be fine. I'm not worried. Nothing but a regular old episode next week. All right, I can get with that. Yeah, yeah, that'll be fine. I'm not worried. I feel like that's the prevailing expectation of a friend of the Soto, is a regular episode. Mm-hmm, yeah, our dry January can continue a pace. Dry January in the streets, very wet January in the sheets.

That's what I'm doing. Yeah, it's a real gusher. I'm pissing myself while I sleep. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. This is just about wraps it up for today's episode, but we should do a little business here at the end of the show, right? We got some, yeah.

Some strings to tie up. Happy new year to all of the friends of DeSoto who support the show. Make the show possible. Make it year to all of the friends of DeSoto who support the show. Make the show possible. Make it possible to put Windy Pretty, our producer on the salary. Thanks to that very same producer, Windy Pretty, for keeping our episodes on the tracks, on time, on schedule, on quality. Under budget?

Yeah. Yeah, thanks, Chef. We don't have a budget. Our budget is whatever it takes. Yeah, yeah. Hey, if you like our show, you might like some of the other shows on the Maximum Fund Network. That's our beloved podcast network.

A lot of great stuff over there, including another Star Trek podcast about new track. Give that a listen. Maybe that should be your first stop, if you ever head over to Maximum Plendout Oregon to peruse their offerings. First rule of self-marketing, Ben, is you want to use the name of the project.

So I'm going to say, greatest trek is the name of that show. Oh, yeah. It's about all the new Star Trek programming that the Paramount Plus network is streaming all over us weekly. They're having a bit of a dry January. That's true.

Yeah, I imagine a social media manager, Bill Tilly, not taking January off of anything. He's on our socials. Wherever friends of DeSoto can be found online, you will also find Bill Tilly there, making it a great time for everyone, and we appreciate him too. I sure do.

We also appreciate Nick Dittmore, who designed our show logo and many of the items you see over at podchap.biz, our online merch store, which is no longer just a joke, it actually exists and sells things. Yeah. And we gotta thank Adam Ragusia, the composer of our original theme music, the Janeway

song. Of course, taking some inspiration from Dark Materia in that work, check out Adam Ragusia's YouTube channel and his podcast, they fucking rule. Yeah, they really do. And with that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager. It's like, got a lot of personality problems. Yeah, like any other episode, I guess.

Yeah. But this one has extra. I can show. org. Comedy and culture. Artist-owned. Audience supported.