The Greatest Generation - Guilt Bank (VOY S7E10)

Episode Date: January 22, 2024

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We've always said it, the most dangerous thing a podcast host can do is drink what has been sent to them. Oh my god, I'm two tall boys of cider and a big of mead in now. I'm gonna live out in the studio, maybe forever. The only time I'm truly happy is when I'm sick. Yep. I think beer has more bubbles than mead. Oh my. Oh.

Who, who, who? This should have been the Mead power hour. I know. Instead it's a mess. This is the part that hurts. I'm Cameron. You know how this is gonna end, right? I'm going to encourage us to split this episode in two pieces

Wow, I think this should be the first greatest gen cliffhanger. Who kidding? What do you think? I'm fully against it. Gonna get into a great big argument about this one. I bet And now the conclusion is to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage. Watch your back, Charlotte. Look. I'm Captain Cap, printing where the U.S. says forward. I'm Captain Cap, printing where the U.S. says forward.

I'm Captain Cap, printing where the U.S. says forward. So these peace talks go like this. Look, the holograms have this technology to sort of holo terraform a planet, but they don't have all the ingredients to do it. If Janeway could just find it in her heart to give a little bit more technology to these folks, they'd be able to do this. And she's like, well, I have some reservations

about sharing more technology. And Chico too is like, oh, come on, I am in the room. What the fuck? Chico is like pointing at everyone in the room, like Dr. Mark Akuchimoya, Donik Akuchimoya, Tuba Akuchimoya, no Akuchimoya for you, Janeway.

None for you. None of it. I'm out. Janeway is like, I've given enough technology at this point and now it's Dennis Fectus. She does not want to give anymore. She does not. I don't want to do my last four shots, but to do them, I have to open

yet another can. I'm going to, hey, confidentially to FODs. I'm looking at you all in the camera. Ben could have said that he was done, he had succeeded in the power hour. And Benjamin R. Harrison opens a new beer to do the last three shots. Everything you need to know about him is in this moment.

This is a, I think this is higher, fuck this is 6.1 ABV. God fucking damn it. Ben you did it to yourself. I should have looked at that when I bought it at the fucking right aid this morning when I was walking my dog. Yep. You really should have. God dammit. We both should have done a lot of things a long time ago to prevent this moment from happening. Here we are.

So they start talking like, okay, what if we like do this for the hollows, but we like pull all of the violence out of the program or like take subroutines out that make them assholes. Seemed reasonable. And Dr. Mark is like, what the fuck? What if we like just tear me out chemically castrate the hollows? Yes.

And. Yes, and they don't realize what that sounds like to him. And Janeway's like, I don't want to turn this into a holographic rights debate. And Dr. Mark is like, well, from your fucking ivory tower, you don't want to turn into an Alemabic rights debate. How fucking convenient for you. It's a very fleshy ivory tower. Yeah. Meanwhile down in the mess hall, a full blown bar fight has broken out

in the field hospital. What did you think was gonna? What did you think was gonna happen when you put a field hospital in the muscle? You turned your bar into a field hospital and failed to account for the fact that there might be a bar fight in a field hospital? You need bouncers!

Nelix is installed two dozen POS systems to account for the enhanced appetites of the Herodian. I thought this was a cool scene because it's one of those scenes where it's obvious that the fight is a distraction and that the real thing is this guy running over and using some computer in the mess hall to get comms and send a distress signal to other Banes. They never actually like overtly explain that. They're like, oh, they're sending a signal somehow. But like, I love that there wasn't like a scene where the Banes were like whispering to each other like, we got to get a distress signal out, you know.

They just know. Yeah. Instinctually what they need to do Just learn to rely on instinct All right, Adam 10 seconds left in in the power hour Here it is. This is my last shot. I don't know. I don't know if you're gonna finish your beer or whatever But I'm gonna keep going. Yeah fucking damn cheers. Cheers to you buddy That fucking damn. Cheers. Cheers to you, buddy. Yeah, I've got maybe half of a 16-outs left to go, and I'm gonna finish. I'm gonna just go to sleep. And you've got to finish, too, because you just cracked that beer.

I did. Why did I do that? Why did you do that? You're the drunk Shimoda now, Ben. What I love about this scene is how in-charge Tuvok is. He goes in there, dustbuster out, and just starts phasering people, like many of them. And bullseying them. And he's shouting and giving orders. He's just too late to stop that one heroge and guy from getting the signal out,

but he puts down whatever's going on in there. If it didn't take 17 seconds to get places on ships, he would have had this licked in the butt. Is that a term? They should have just gassed the mess hall, right? Yeah. What is it? A nestazine? Yes.

A nestazine. A nestazine. Does it work on a erosions? Does it not? A nestazine. It works on a erosions. See, that's the commercial jingle. That's not even a song parody,

that's just a commercial jingle. Yeah, it is. Okay. I was like, you know, 75% chance that's like an indie rock song from 1998 that I don't know. No, yeah, no, that's an original, an AP original. So back on the bridge, Janeway goes forward with the

deflector dish hologram shutdown plan. And when she pitches a voluntary version of this at the Bajoran leader on the FaceTime, that doesn't go well. And then she threatens the hard way. And that's when this guy hangs up on her. And it is full on battle stations at this point. I love the hoodspot of this guy, I don't.

I've had a cop lean in the car window of a car I was in and say we can do this the easy way or do it the hard way. And the people I was with and I chose the easy way. Well, that's because the car you were in was a Volvo. It was a Saab. And you were you. Different Swedish car. But yeah, it was a crime while white situation. But Iden's white, come on. No one's whiter than a Bajoran. The thing about Bajorans, especially Bajoran religious figures who have rank is

there always is this undercurrent. This, this like ghostbusters to pink slime of like evil running through them. That's true. Yeah. You can't trust this guy. The pitch is like, let's, we're gonna turn you off and load you into our computer and then we'll take you somewhere and turn you back on. He's like, yeah, right. I heard about what happened to Moriarty.

There's no fucking way. Yeah, it is the Moriarty punishment, isn't it? And it's just a diplomacy fail. Like it is a, the Voyager set themselves up for a big diplomatic pitch. And it is, it is shut down cold by the other party. And they're like, okay, well, we got to do it the hard way then and Mark is like, cap, like you, you got to like,

you got to be cool with these guys. You have no idea what they've been through. And he's, and she's like, I don't give a shit. And she sends him to the elevator and you watch him trudge into the elevator having been like absolutely radicalized by that interaction. I really, really love how much of that walk you see

and how much of that walk you don't see. Like it's a really good editor. Yeah, like he is soft focus in the background while Janeway is making that decision and then you cut to inside the elevator But there's isn't that there a thing though like Robert Ricardo could be like your Out of the bridge and like sulking right There's like this middle point that he chooses that is such a great choice for an actor where he's like, he's not peacocking how fucked up this is. He's not like Paul Rudd and wet hot American summer

where he's like, oh! Like, he's not even half of that, but he wears it. He really does. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an order. That under spirit. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving in you have just crossed the line.

What he does instead of going to Nelix's restaurant to help Banes, he goes to Six Bay and helps Hallows. And he gets on FaceTime, like secret FaceTime with Aiden and he's like, hey, I'm going to listen, you got to do the right thing with this, but I'm going to give you Voyager's Shield Frequency so that you can beam me out. I'm going to tell you how to counteract this attack that's coming. And Aiden's like, okay, all right, we're gonna do this. It's as if someone on the D hailed the cube at the end of best of both worlds part one.

And I was like, hey, you know what's coming? Main deflector dish. But you know who that was? That was Picard actual. He knew about main deflector dish. It was coming from inside the ship. And he had been compromised. He'd been reprogrammed at that point.

This is that. This is that, but Mark hasn't been reprogrammed. Can you reprogram him or something? Yeah. This just feels so dirty though, because he's in six bay by himself doing the secret message. He's like, look, you gotta promise me not to attack Voyager with this information.

And Bajoran guy's like, oh yeah, I'm definitely not gonna do that. It's the last thing I would do. So they try the pulse, Dr. Mark gets brought over. They try this deflector pulse and I thought the effect was super good. Like the deflector pulse. And I thought the effect was super good. Like the deflector is sending its thing at them

and then like they send their thing back and it sort of looks like flame crawling up the, you know, the spray of fuel from the refuel plane or whatever. That is a great call. Cause we've seen tractor beam disbursement before in a very similar way. This looks so much better.

It looks great. And like what's going on in engineering also looks great. There's like warflighting flying all over the place and BLT sort of like risks her life to like get a force field up around the warp core to like save the ship and she gets war-flighting and then like the they beam her out before bugging out and she's like all singed on a on a gurney right in front of Dr. Mark and he takes great umbrage

with the fact that the Hallowss have abducted his friend, but he's like, all right, well, I'll treat her. This is real cult leadership when the Bajoran guy's like, I could have done a lot worse, you know? Yeah. This isn't so bad. You gave me the keys to the kingdom and I showed restraint, did I not?

Yeah, yeah. This shot of Voyager, I love where it's cropped because Voyager is dark and adrift, but we're not like right up on the ship. It's cropped in sort of a corner of the frame. It's nice. It looks great. Because it's like, it's not the wide shot of a ship about to explode.

It's like the medium wide of a ship dark in space. We cut to the interior and it is like, they're doing like triage in the warp core. They have to have flashlights and stuff coming down there. No one gave me a flashlight. I'm over here in the dark. He's right and I just gotta squeegee this stuff up. What using my, I mean using my nose obviously but I always use my nose.

I think what's the most hurtful is the assumption that this is going to keep happening because I'm in charge of whatever this is. Hey, Egypt, there's been a lot lately about your prowess as an engineer, and BLT has been abducted and you're not even brought up or helping fix the warp core or anything, but I'm here squeegeeing. Where are you? Your absence is conspicuous. Huh. Huh. This is also the moment where Janeway's like,

I wonder how they were able to repel the pulse we shot out of the deflector shield and Tuvuck and just go to her like, oh, you're not going to like the answer to that question. I admire Tuvok's like dramatic restraint because he comes in and he's like, they managed to figure out the frequency of our pulse, you know, within moments of something, something. And they're like, there's like back and forth and back and forth. And then he's like, also the doctor transmitted something from sickbay right before being transferred over to their ship. And they're like, what?

Are you fucking kidding? That's not the first thing you said when you came in here. I'm gonna ask you a question. While also telling you that I really did like this episode, While also telling you that I really did like this episode, is one way to make this episode much, much, much better is to have Tubak also experience Ponfar during. Like, what if he's also incredibly horny this episode? I feel.

Oh, that's too many problems in an episode of Star Trek Voyager. And yet I kind of crave that. There's something really great about the establishing of the people that are fighting hollows, being really worried about the Voyager when Tuvok is fucking hollows in the holodeck. But much better would be the hollows trying to abduct the woman that Tuvac is actively nailing in the holodeck.

See, in Tuvac's holodeck program, all of the Vulcans are wearing Vulcan colored tights. Right, and that's just that cool. It's confusing, you know? It's too confusing. Too confusing, okay? And he's like, I am not oppressing this hologram of my wife. I am not trying to tell you how to dress. I am only stating it is confusing to me.

A flawed man. The perversities of the patriarchy have had as many horrible ramifications for my psyche as they have for yours, though they have affected me less disproportionately badly. This is both the deepest and the most shallow episode of Greatest Gen we've ever done. But like, like, Aiden would be flipping out if he knew what Tuvok was doing in that holodeck, you know?

Oh my God, that would have been incredible. Yeah, like that's what you write toward. Like what about, like we see later, Aiden notices hollows on other ships and he goes to liberate them. That's part of his cause. Spoiler alert. But there is an infinite amount of hollows

that could be generated on Voyager for liberation. And what a weird sabote to throw into this episode to just sort of blow it up. Right. Like what if he just needed to take all of them? Every pool shark that you ever had at Sondren's like needs to be liberated. Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean Harry Kim promised the sort of liberation that Aiden can actually deliver on. What about like, like can they liberate black and white hollows from the Captain Proton universe?

And like, what would it re-like for them? Like, is it too silly? You're black on one side and white on the other. I am black on the right side. I don't think it matters what color they are, Ben. I think hollow is hollow. That's big of you. Yeah.

Wow. So we get another walk and talk with Janeway and Chacote. Janeway is fucking furious now that she's realized that Mark has betrayed them, but she's also again blaming herself. This is Janeway as Benjamin R. Harrison, the episode. Like, every time something bad happens in this episode, Janeway's like, well, the buck stops with me.

Ultimately, this is my fault. And I've never identified with a character in fiction more than Janeway in this episode. Wow, really? Yeah, I had a long conversation with our buddy, the Goose, Adam and Goose, earlier today. And I was like, yeah, like one of the interesting things I realized about myself in therapy is like, guilt accumulates to me and like my like strongest impulse is like pull it all in

It's not a bit. It's not a character. I play on podcasts. It's my real thing that I need to fix You are a weird guilt bank. Yeah, and that guilt is Totally insured by the FDIC Well, it's up to two hundred fifty thousand dollars per account Well, it's up to $250,000 per account. But I got a lot of accounts, brother. You do. And so does Janeway in this episode. She's like, ultimately, I feel like this is my fault.

I should have seen this coming. He was really identifying with the cause of those hollows and trying to become a social hollow justice warrior. And I shut him down and I shouldn't have. I'm Captain Captain Prince Janeway. The youth who had sent for a doctor. I'm Captain Captain Prince Janeway. The youth who had sent for a doctor.

I'm going to kill it. Really interesting tension between Janeway and Chico Te here. Because Janeway is like, there's no way the doctor would be on their side. Doctors on team Voyager, right? And Chico Te is like, not so fast. I did stop him from going to a conference. That could have been the last draw.

Yeah, he attempts to throw himself on the guilt grenade and she's like, no fucking way Chico Te. That's my grenade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back on the prey ship. BLT is pissed to be there. She's very pissed. This is not a surprise.

She wants to go back to Voyager and he is like, you know, that's great for you. I can't go back personally due to the fact that I have just directly betrayed Janeway and the entire crew of Voyager. Yeah. Helped I didn't fuck the ship over. And she's like, how dare you ever do something like that?

And he's like, aren't you a Maquis? Maquis? Absolutely savage dunk. It's always interesting to talk Maquis at Maquis, isn't it? Yeah. It kind of undoes the argument that BLT has here in an interesting way. She doesn't really have a argument with him at all, right?

Like... No, the doc actually does a great job here in this conversation. He did not see this coming, the abduction of BLT, but he is willing to use it to his advantage, which he sees as asking her for help augmenting the cellular network that the hollows have planned for this planet that they're going to go to and set up so that they can live in peace away from all the Banes and all the people that want to kill holograms. Interesting idea, huh?

Look, if she can just get this hollow transformer going, I mean, the promise is she'll be let go. Yeah. She'll be a free woman and... Just help the cause. And Mark can go live in Bees with all of his hollow friends. Yeah, and Kajal the Kajasian will help. What was her race again?

Yeah, that was the drunkest way to say that. That has ever happened. That was the drunkest way to say that. That has ever happened. That was amazing. So, uh, so meanwhile, we have a little bit of a confrontation between Simon, Simon Tarsus. We're both doing it. It was a weird, weird night. I mean Simon Tarsus. We're both doing it. It was a weird, weird night.

Simon Tarsus. And what's his name? Adol. What's the guy's name? Oh, you're obviously talking about... Eden? Aiden. Is that what they did?

They took Eden and changed one letter? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. To the Andorians, he's unpronounceable. So Simon Tarsus is like, yeah, I don't trust this organic that you've brought over here. And Iden is like, hey man, I'm just trying to like light and put out candles here, like as is part of my religion.

And Simon Tarshess is like, hey, I was replicated based on Starfleet, so I'm a godless heathen. Sorry if I don't get everything you're doing, W slash R slash T, the religion of Bejor. Not all of us were programmed with your spiritual beliefs. I like this guy. I thought he needed to play a bigger role, honestly.

Like he sort of has a natural frizz on with his leader. And I kind of thought it would have been interesting if, you know, toward the back quarter of this episode, he had found common cause with Voyager. Yeah. Yeah, I found his Simon Tarsus-ness distracting. They should have changed his hair or given him more loaf or something.

Yeah, yeah, make him a fucking endorian. Yeah. Or a tellerite. Because I think you know at this point how important the drumhead is. Like, I think he's too famous. He's too famous for the drumhead. Yeah, I think I think we're in agreement on that. Yeah So, uh, I'm so drunk man. Yeah, this is this. I'm so drunk and I have a sore throat and body aches This is brutal. Let's get to the end of this. We've recorded for more than an hour and a half. This is more than anybody pays for with their monthly contribution at Maximumfund.org slash join. I'm really glad you brought that up, Ben, because if anyone deserves anything from this, it's windy.

Who has to put up with this shit? How about no! God. We don't deserve any help at all, and yet she does. Yeah. So BLT gets introduced to the whole gang, and it's another, like I guess it's just another like reveal of all the A-quad aliens that we're not used to seeing in Voyager. It's neat to see them together in the same room, huh?

I like it. Yeah. It might be the most AQUAD aliens we've ever seen on screen at the same time. I like the Breen. The Breen are fun. The Breen's fun. They have a good sound.

That's like some of the best sound design. Yeah, it's big fun. Why hasn't Paramount Plus done anything with Breen? Oh god, you just did it, didn't you? Paramount Plus is the worst streaming app ever. It fucking sucks. It sucks so bad. It would be an amazing self-own if they sold out to HBO Max. Any amount that HBO Max pays for Paramount Plus is more than they deserve.

Holy shit. What a great deal for them. Yeah, wow. My rewatch of this episode just stopped 40 minutes in, like, black screened. I had to, like black screened. I had to like shut off my TV and restart it. Dang, weak. Because that's just how it is. When you roll with Paramount Plus.

It does seem like worse since the new year, right? Like any Paramount Plus usage seems like it's fucked up in some way. I told you I met the guy The guy who runs the Paramount plus app at Star Trek day. I told you I sat next to him at Star Trek day Yeah, he introduced himself to me is like yeah, I'm I'm the guy I do the app He seemed with it Nobody that makes the app is not with it. The people that are not with it are the like,

rich lunatics that live in 45 million dollar houses in the fucking hills with infinity pools that don't know what normal people want or need. Normal people want and need things that work. And this is not that. Anyways. In the ass lab, the power's back on. And those Herojan ships will be on them soon, Ben.

Yeah. They don't have a lot of time. And it's weird because it doesn't seem like the Hollows are running in stealth or anything. And so like, they're, I guess like, you know, trying to, trying to use the Herojan tracking to their advantage, right? Sure. Yeah.

Cause they're good at that. And Donik is like, you know, hey man, like I want to, I want to be here. I don't want to go back to the erosion, they suck. Like I have no romantic opportunities. I became an engineer, you know, I'm not a hunter. Like the girls all like the hunters. It is so clear that Donik, he's just different. He doesn't belong over there.

Donik, let's just say he's built different. When they get on the FaceTime, Janeway is like, you know, Donik is more of a Nelix type. He doesn't belong with you. Yeah. And he doesn't like the family business. Like his grandfather and his father were both hunters.

And he liked the opportunity to branch out and do something different and that only exists because of what Janeway gave. It's not like he wants to not be involved at all like he really does want to see the mission through but in his own way. Yeah he wants to be behind the scenes. He likes being behind the scenes. Yeah he doesn't have to be in front of camera. No, he's an Aaron Waltke. He's going to be a very successful writer. Yeah, yeah.

He doesn't want to be in front of camera. What a trick. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. The alpha of the heroine takes great umbrage with the idea that Donik would not want to be returned. And there is a really, this is maybe my favorite part of this episode, that look through the view screen react

of the heroine slapping the other heroine on the heroine ship. Yeah. And for some reason falling off the platform that they have on a heroine ship when you look through a view screen. Like, for some reason falling off the platform that they have on a heroge ship when you look through a view screen, like, for some reason the heroge and want to be looking up at their, at the people that they're talking to on the view screen. Yeah.

And it feels like it is much more for the falling off the platform when you get slapped than it is for the seeming like you're on a lower footing psychologically from the like camera looking down at you standpoint. They've done this a million times in Star Trek. You're shooting the shot and the reverse shot to stand in for the view screen stuff, but they specifically shot the Voyager reverse shot

as a react to someone falling off a pedestal on the Herojenship. Because when a pedestal on the Heroge and ship Because when you cut over to the Heroge and ship you see their react. Yeah looking down where the guy fell off the pedestal It's amazing. Donica's like leaning forward to be like, oh damn that guy got the shit slapped out of It's such a great moment. It's incredible. I love it. If whoever had been technical directing the Oscars the year that Will Smith walked up on the stage and slapped Chris Rock had had A, the presence of mind, B, the timing, C,

the like, godlike intuition to cut on the slap. Cut from one camera to another. Cut from one ship to another on the slap. Holy shit. Absolutely masterful moment in Star Trek. And yeah, this guy gets slapped. He takes over the hunt and he's like, hey, Voyager, if you wanna be involved

in hunting these hollows, you can do whatever the fuck you want, but if you get anywhere close to them, I'm hunting you first. Yeah, I'm not gonna distinguish you from the prey. You're all prey. Yeah. So Donik has a weird idea here.

He's like, yeah, you know, we can go along with this in a way that keeps us hidden from them if we just get into their wake. Yeah. And he's got the solution to this method. Like he knows the way to get in there so that they can't be seen. The erosion ships have like a whole portion behind them

they can't see on sensors or anything. So they tuck in right back there. I love science fiction that, that supposes just the big rocket engine. Yeah. That's what the Herojanships look like. They've had a bunch of rocket engines in the back. The back of a Herojanship is indistinguishable

from the back of Spaceball One. Yeah. Yeah, it truly is. It's great. So meanwhile on the hollow ship, BLT is working with Kajala. And she hasn't really decided whether or not to help the hollows figure out their cell tower thing.

But she sort of gets like between Kajala and BLT, like this sort of gets worked out where BLT decides like, okay, I'm gonna help wrench on this thing. Some interesting like Kajala is a Cardassian hologram, and that is uniquely triggering for BLT, but she's sort of like reconnected with her starfleet origins enough by now that she's able to get over that.

This scene drove me crazy though. Did it do the same to you? The idea that Kajal is a Cardassian or maybe she's just programmed to be a Cardassian and the implications of both of those and whether or not either of those are true, like there is no conclusion to this. I love that there's no conclusion to it. It doesn't matter. Right, like because it's a discussion about stereotypes.

Like are stereotypes true or are they not? Like do they come from a real place or do they not? Like. You're just a person, man. Yeah, Kojala's just a person. And by man, I mean person. I cannot wait to open the next show with my apology. Or they might be giants song cover.

Or your, they might be Giants song cover. Yeah. Person man, person man, head on the head with a frying pan. Back over with Dr. Mark and the Bishoren leader. Dr. Mark is low-key missing his old life. And the Bishoren leader is like, hey, I missed being killed sometimes too. Voyager will never take you back. You can't go back there. What you've done, they'll never forgive it.

And then as sort of a prize, he's like, hey, you know where we're headed? Doc's like, no. Bajoran man is like, hey, we got a planet in mind that we're a planet in mind that we're gonna drop in on. And guess what? It's Y class.

The doctor's like, whoo! I know all about Y class. It's bad. It's where we dropped off our clone Voyager crew. Yeah, it's no good. It's no good. And the thing about Eiden is that he's like, yeah, the best part is that it's so

poisonous. We're gonna set up our holo terraformers there. It's gonna be great for us and terrible for everyone else. I love that he's kind of shaming Dr. Mark in this moment like, oh, you're, you're so roped into their fucking mindset that you're not even thinking about how much it doesn't even matter for us. You really need their oxygen, don't you? Ugh. But like, also, you know, every time we've sent a space probe to Venus,

it's lasted like an hour max before the fucking surface has like consumed all the materials. So like, I don't know. It stands to reason that's where women are from, Ben. Wow. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam! Adam's drum. Cut to the next episode. I have a prepared statement to read.

I'm sleeping in the studio tonight. I didn't expect you to go in cell in the first episode record in the new year, but wow. That's not in cell. That's just having weird opinions. I'm all out of my brusky beers and my mead. Oh man, okay. I made it, Ben.

I made it to the end. I'm still sipping on my fourth cider tallboy here. I had, yeah, I had two 16 ounces and then this 500 mil mead. That's what it was and I feel great. God damn. They're all about 6%. Good for you, buddy.

Voyager gets right up into the bane hole. They're right next to it. The radiation is going to prevent anyone from finding them in there, but there's two bane ships. So the alpha of this situation recommends that the other circles around the nebula while they head in and sort of drive the hollow ship to the exit and the Voyager like tucked right into the bane hole, follows them in and listen, when in the heat of passion it is not uncommon to slip out of the bane hole it is not uncommon to slip out of the bane hole when things are going the way they're going. Especially if you've hit some boppies. Yeah.

He's us back in, Tom. You can do it. Try. And that is what Paris is able to accomplish despite the turbulence. I'm so glad that Paris is on the bridge instead of in Six Bay. Yeah.

Oh, God bless him. He's the one who's probably the most concerned about losing the dock. Yeah, that is a subtext that I feel like they didn't play up enough in this episode, but he's gotta be stressing. I mean, he's also stressing because his wife has been objected

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They're working on it and there's kind of like a passage of time at it in this scene because Aiden doesn't want to go to the Y-class planet until they're ready to set up their hollow society. And so like BLT is like hard at work with Kajal, getting the optronic relays, et cetera, up to spec. And they're ready to go and they're like their bangers dropping all over the place. And this is when Mark steps to Haydn and is like, hey, like so, if we're building a society, like I'd be as they, I cannot go back to my ship

given the horrible fucking thing I just did. If we're building a society, the thing that I would pitch for myself is in terms of a job is a minister of culture. So if you were to think of the most annoying job I could have. I just want you to assume that that's the job that I would have. Yeah. And, man, Eiden is like, no man, we're not taking any of their fucking culture.

No organic culture. We're not doing stuff that they do. We're doing our own new shit. And this is where he kind of like drops the mask a little bit. There's a moment here that was so perfect for a thing I just read about recently, which is the prophetic perfect tense.

Have you heard about this? No. The prophetic perfect tense. Have you heard about this? No. The prophetic perfect tense is where like a religious text describes a future event that they are so certain about happening that they refer to it in the past tense as if it had already happened. Whoa. So, Aiden uses this prophetic perfect tense starting here in a way that really blew my mind.

Wow. A metal light arose and slew the mighty Alpha. He gathered his people unto him and delivered them to freedom. That's awesome. It's really great. Because the situation is that Dr. Mark was like, why are you like dogging out my appreciation of Mozart? Like you follow the Bajoran religion.

I find your enjoyment of the arts fairly annoying. And I was like, no, I'm making my own new shit. It's like a whole religion about a guy who was just a humble hologram getting hunted by Banes. And then he rose up and became a being of pure light. Yeah. It's a great story, bro. But when you turn it into a cult, it gets pretty dark. And it seems like the hollow scales sort of fall from Mark's eyes and he runs right to BLT

where he's like, hey, I think I might have made a really big mistake actually. This is a great moment because I think ordinarily you'd really want to stop Dr. Mark's balls here, You'd really want to stop Dr. Marks balls here, but there is a I don't know like the way he puts this the way he feels in this scene. I really do feel bad for him I feel bad for him too. And I think that BLT has had a Moment or two with Kajal that made her See what he saw in these hollows. Right, and I think it's important that it's BLT too, right?

Like as a Mayqueez? Totally. It was never going to be Chakote and it couldn't be Tuvaak, so it's her. We spend the next few moments of the episode watching a attempted intercept of the hollows as they exit this nebular and it doesn't go great. Like the Banes can't get them. Voyager is like still tucked into the Banes butthole and what they do, the hollows is set up on one of those alien ships that has the oppressed hollows on it.

And Aiden gets on the FaceTime with the commander of this two-man ship, two-man three hollow ship. And he's like, hey, you gotta give your holograms to us or we're gonna kill you. And Dr. Mark is like, hey man, like can you chill out a little bit? And it's a big intense scene.

They disable the other ship and they liberate the hollows and then they fucking kill those two organics. It's tough here, but it is tougher once they go meet the three hollows that they beam aboard and it's just like three Lennies. This is the thing that BLT has such a huge problem with. Like BLT articulates something that no one else does, which may be a disparity between real life and hollow life. BLT is like, you killed real people for these Lennies?

Ah! It's not like they're sending their best. Yeah. It feels gross. And what's grossest is that like, there's no hope for these Lennies. Yeah. Like it's not like you can give them better programming

or whatever. This is all they're ever gonna be. Right. There's something about the like, scope of their programs where, when he's like, we'll load intelligence into them. Like they can't have that because of something. Not gonna happen, dude. Unable to process command, please restate.

This is crucially the same scene where Eidans like, they're not Linnees, they're children of light. And as soon as you start using that kind of terminology around your flock, that's real culty business, isn't it? It's really culty business. That's volleyball and colloidal silver type of talk right there. You sort of wonder if he like knowingly withheld any of that type of terminology around Mark.

He definitely did. Yeah. Yeah. So the ship has finally arrived to the planet that will be their home. And it's time to holo terraform, right? It is time. Uh, they got the thing. And this is when, uh, Voyager decides to lick shots at the beehull of this

herosgentship. It's an amazing moment that is completely sexually neutral in the episode, but cannot help but be sexually heightened by a review on Greatest Generation. There's coffee and torpedoes full spread. I can't help but heighten it. And also I can't help but talk about the fact that when all of the Herojans have been like knocked down on their butts and they get up

and like start announcing the status of the ship, one of them wipes a bunch of bones off of his screen. That's bones. What falls from the ceilings on a bane ship is not girders. It's like junk and bones. But this is like what would happen if you were to have an earthquake in a non-chain seafood restaurant

where their decorations are just nets full of bones. This is what happens there. Yeah. Justin, stay away. Do it. Anywhere the yogurt says, do it. Captain's got talent.

Anywhere the yogurt says, do it. So once they arrive at the poison planet, there's this idea that like, Aiden is gonna transport the survivors of the attack on the heroge and ship to the planet. So they can continue to be hunted, right? Yeah, like he wants to do to them what was done to him. And when Mark protests this a bit,

he's like, hey, like that's fucked up. And Aiden's like, you know, they could take it. And Robert Ricardo's take when they cut to the close up of him, like processing what Aiden is doing is like, that's like his Oscar real moment. It's so fucking good. It's really good. Yeah, it's not just hunting, it's revenge hunting.

Yeah. And we cut to the veins being beamed down to this planet that they like are not adapted to live on and they're like gasping for air. Aiden takes his ship into low orbit and Voyager has disabled all the Bane ships and wants to run to their defense. And it turns out that the only defense

that can really be provided is provided by Kajal and BLT. BLT realizes like, hey, like I didn't stole Dr. Mark's mobile emitter to go down there and hunt these veins. Yeah. So Dr. Mark could be sent down on the cell tower that we sent down there. Hey, can we give him a BFG?

Also? Yeah. Seems like they can. So Dr. Mark gets one of those fucking Bane guns and goes down there. And one of the like biggest laugh lines in all of Star Trek when you see him materialized with this fucking huge gun on the surface. It is cartoonish. And so silly. I mean, it's a gun that is designed to be wielded

by an NBA player in loaf, you know? It's not Bob Bacardo's fault that this gun is so enormous. It's so silly. It looks stupid with anyone wielding it. And he finds Aiden getting ready to take out the alpha bane. While the alpha bane is like arguing against being taken out because defenseless prey is a poor trophy. You know, they're in the Star Trek caves and like the camera racks focus and Dr.

Mark is back there with this huge fucking gun. It's kind of a the most toys moment, right? Except Dr. Mark is back there with this huge fucking gun. It's kind of a The Most Toys moment, right? Except Dr. Mark actually shoots. Yeah, and also, like, like, Eiden has just said his cool catchphrase, but hasn't killed his victim yet, you know? Defenseless prey makes a poor trophy. I don't collect trophies. Put down the weapon. The 90s action movingness of the scene is so apparent. Yeah, it's so good.

It's great. And so like the Delta Fire is now in flight in the atmosphere of the planet and they've rescued BLT. Just checking in, Tom and BLT are still married. Yeah. Am I making any sense here? Aiden gets wasted. Yep.

And they need to persuade the heroine not to kill the rest of the hollows at this point. You know, everybody gets beamed up and there's this like moment in, it's another walk and talk in the hallway where somehow Nelix gets the like diplomacy, conch toss to him and talks the Banes into not taking the hollow ship with them. I mean after what the mess hall has been through, I kind of get this.

Yeah. Throw him a bone. Throw him a bone. I think that the problem with this scene is that they've finished the conversation in front of this, this Bane's other buddies and like, like what they are pitching him on is like, hey, like when you go back to the rest of the Banes, like you need to be able to talk about this in a way that makes you seem awesome and not like a bunch of dicks. Yeah.

You know? It's great. Don't do that in front of people. Like arrive at that conclusion in private and then, you know, whatever send them off. You don't want to walk in on that conclusion. Yeah. So they send the the Banes off

and then, you know, Donik like wants to clean up his mess. He feels like he and Kajal can do that together. Is it Kajal or Kajal though? I got Kajal. Kajal. There's like an offer of the Moriarty treatment to Kajal. And she was like, no dog.

Do not want. I don't want to wind up at the Daysterm Institute. Give me a break. And like, Donik has like, you know, there's been a lot of a lot of blood spilled over the expansion of hollow capability. And I just want to like, do my part to clean that up. I don't know, man. Like, there's something about Donik's whole deal that is very,

like something could be very pervy about the idea of this. And that it is not says a lot about Donik, doesn't it? I guess so. Like I'm just gonna stay on board with this hollow lady and I'm gonna keep turning wrenches until it seems like things over here are gonna be figured out. I don't know, man.

I don't like that. We'll see if our two types of loaves can need together. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, man. I also think that like there are lots of problems in the world that were like created by engineers, not really considering the ramifications of what they were doing.

And in this episode, the engineer is made like the hero and the solver of all problems. Yeah, so I don't like them getting cover. But that's the resolution of the story for those two. But what's the resolution of the story for Dr. Mark who betrayed his entire ship and caused all of these problems? Can he return to work?

Well, that's established for sure by the fact that the next scene is him at work in uniform. I love the idea that there's a version of this where Dr. Mark is in his quarters or something, like in civilian clothes. Well, I mean, like he talks about it, right? Like I'd be in the brig if I wasn't the only physician. It is hypermagnanimous for Janeway to be like, this problem is my fault because when you trace it all the way back, it really is my decision to give the heroge in this technology.

I mean, that's pretty generous, right? It's so generous. And that's not to be confused with Suey Generous. Do you think it's appropriate for Janeway to take responsibility for what the doctor has done here in the way that she does? I don't think it is. I think it's too far. Yeah, I didn't quite jive with this decision by Janeway.

I'm definitely on the doctor side with how surprised he is that it's happening. Yeah, like he, I'm also on the doctor's side with how surprised he is that it's happening. Yeah, like he... I'm also on the doctor's side of like, let's throw out a bunch of like, doable time. Like, let's throw about some punishments that are... Like, I can totally fucking do because I feel guilty as hell about what happened. But I was shocked by the choice Janeway made here. How can I punish you for being who you are?

I think that this has been a bit of a theme with the doctor, like a betrayal that feels like, can he ever come back from it? And the judgment is off, you know? Yep. The choices he makes don't math. And when the stakes are this high, like it doesn't feel like you could trust him.

You can't have the trust of a whole crew in your hands and then give that trust to someone you barely know and have been trustworthy in that moment. Like this is the crucial moment of this episode is like the doctor asked Aiden not to betray him and his trust in that moment when he gave the shield codes over to him. Yeah.

You can't do that. You can never give the codes. No, you cannot give them up the codes. But can you enjoy this episode, Adam? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bullying. I don't like friends and I don't like you. I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullying. I don't like friends and I don't like you. I'm a stupid.

I enjoyed it quite a bit. It gave us a ton to debate. I'm thinking about the ethics of a hollow person. I'm thinking of the hollow people who deserve to live. Sure. I'm thinking of the class Y planet that they could have populated. I'm thinking of the ethics of a flesh colored yoga pant.

How troublesome that is. Or the lack thereof. Yeah. Yeah, a very thought provoking episode was this. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I think maybe the best of the season seven episodes up to this point. What about you, Ben? I also really like this episode.

I think that I feel much the same as you. The best art challenges you and provokes debate. That's exactly what I said and how I said it. How much I considered the choices of all of my favorite characters and whether or not they did something that I agreed with or not. And yeah, man, it's a banger. Like I don't necessarily agree with everything

and I think that there are like places where it could have been better, but overall, a banger. I agree. It banged for about two hours. With our having litigated this episode completely, let's check the priority one message in box, shall we? Okay. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel.

Need a supplement link. Okay. Priority One Message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel. Need a Supplement link? Supplement. Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship! Ben, our first Priority One Message is of a promotional nature.

Hmm. Interesting choice. That message goes like this. We all know FODs are a creative bunch, but what my theory presupposes is that few writers love to edit. Hmm. Need help with structure, web content, depotting plants or eliminating all errors everywhere. Aaron Kieserman, PhD,

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FODs receive a free sample edit of up to 2,500 words. Hey, that's a lot of words, Ben. That's a shit load. I'm a- Holy cow. I'm a copywriter from back in the day. That's a couple of articles. I'm kidding.

So you're saying I could get my space opera up on its feet in Microsoft Word and fire the first chapter over to Aaron Kizerman and get a fucking sense of whether I'm on to anything or not. I think that's what Aaron Kizerman's saying. Damn. You know, it's great. There's nothing about this P1 that suggests that you'd have to owe Aaron Kizerman credit in any way.

I like that. I like that a lot. Why don't you take the Aaron Kizerman polish? He's offering it. It's right here. It sounds great. What was that website again? kaiserediting.com That's K-A-I-S-E-R E-D-I-T-I-N-G

Dot com Damn. I gotta do this. I gotta get on this. You need an editor, Ben, and I think this is the right one. The first volume of my 10 this is the right one. The first volume of my 10 volume space opera awaits. Yeah. Malota, the opera.

Malota! I don't have the rights to that. I wish I did. Can't wait to read it. Our next priority one message is of a personal nature. It's from the Gooch who, you know, we've heard from a bunch and it's to Ben and Adam. I don't know if we've ever had the Gooch reach out directly to the two of us. The Gooch always referenced on this show. Yeah.

So it goes like this. You called it in a recent marin. I am the clinic director of a mental health clinic that does a lot of telehealth. One of my clinicians was talking with her client about his financial hardship after a messy divorce. As he talked about this, a big thumbs up floated up on the screen incredible that's so perfect why

did they build this into our computers why didn't we have any say over whether they would build this into our computers no one considers the sarcasm of these things yeah I just got kicked in the nuts. I just lost custody of my kids. There are some things that a motion graphic or an emoji or whatever just can't encapsulate. Yeah.

This is what the Gooch knows. This is what we all know. Yeah. Maybe they should have gotten Pixar to do those animations. Like they could really get it like a deep and complicated emotion. I know. There you go. Ben, our final priority one message is sent from Giles or Giles. I'm gonna go with Giles. And it's to me and you.

Message goes like this, thanks for making my first rewatch of Voyager in a while more enjoyable than previously thought. Also thanks for the SYE tour in Minneapolis, which was delightful. Despite the guys sitting all the way in back of the theater during the meet and greet, having the chance to ask Adam about bathtub episodes was great, solely for how much pain shown on his face when I asked this question. Yeah, you get it.

Yeah. I don't know. I just try to be real in those meet and greets. If you ask a painful question, you're going to get a painful face. I remember that moment. I don't remember the guy sitting all the way in the back of the theater.

Yeah. Maybe he worked there or something? I don't know. That was a long time ago. Yeah. Thinking back to the Minneapolis show, one of the great shows. Was one of the great shows.

I think the greatest show is yet to come madam that's the one we're gonna do at SF sketch fest later this month it's true one thing I can guarantee the guy sitting all the way back in the theater at the Minneapolis show he's not gonna be there that guy that guy's not invited that guy Wouldn't worry about that guy unless it's de-fest it de-fest it is for sure invited de-fest it is invited to all the shows Just like guyless What the fester needs to figure out is de-fest it can be on the list if de-fest it just asks De-fest it pays their own way You know that.

I know. Well, everybody that sent to P1 has deeply appreciated on this episode, and if you'd like to join their ranks and become a P1 sender, head to maximumfund.org slash jembotron and set yours up today. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible.

Drunk Shimoda! Oh, boy, did I. This is a time code Shimode, my friend. This is early in the episode. So when they first show up at that site, on the, I guess it's the training facility, they call it, the space station where the Bains practice hunting teach their young, teach their pimple-faced teens.

There is a shot. I think if you start your play head at like nine minutes and 25 seconds, you'll see this. Cameras swinging around and it's kind of like panning left. And as it pans left, you get like the knees and feet of a couple of crew members that just sneak into the shot. It's a very rare kind of error in Star Trek. You never see the fucking boom mic dip into frame.

You never see shit like this in Star Trek, but it happened here. You're saying 925? Yeah, 925, like somewhere between 925 and 928 or so. You see a cup, it's a glimpse. I don't see where you're looking. Did I write the wrong time down? I'm looking for feet.

What are you talking about? Yeah, I don't see any, any mystery feet, man. Okay, nine. Go a little bit back. Okay. Left side of the frame. Tuvac is in the foreground.

Paris and red shirt, you know, frame right. What is happening here? Are we looking at different episodes? Maybe the time code's off. Oh, you know what? Are you talking about Tuvok walking toward camera? Yeah. Okay, I'm now, yep, I can see, I can see crew guy.

There's crew guy in there. I see T-shirt guy. I'm sending you picture of what I'm seeing. There's T-shirt, there's knee, I think there's two crew people in this. Oh, you know what? I can't take a picture of him because that's the one thing Paramount Plus does well.

They won't allow a screen grab of their streamer. Yeah, I get it. There's a guy wearing a t-shirt back there. Yeah, and it's incredible. It's a very, very unusual error for there to be in a Star Trek show. Like, boom, Mike in shot is something that is like a classic in the IMDb Goofs section.

Crew guys fully in shot is so weird for a Star Trek episode that whoever that was is my drunk Shimoda for this episode. That's a great choice, Ben. I'm just gonna give mine to Janeway. I think the way she ends this episode with Dr. Mark is, I appreciate sometimes the bow untied on an episode like this.

This just seems like a bow ripped off of the present and like thrown in the bushes. This is too unkempt. You don't like the Benjamin R. Harrison style of captaining. Yeah, I don't know. I need a little stronger of a captain in this moment. So she's my Chamota for this one. Good Chamota, Adam.

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in a different time period Now that sounds fun Does sound fun, but how are we gonna be watching this one Adam? I'm gonna tell you how Ben Because I've gotten a goch that biz.com where the game of Buttholes lives. It does. It's only appropriate that our runabout is on square 100. That's the Mornhammered Square. That's why we've done this to ourselves. It's why I've put my marriage in jeopardy.

You're required to learn as you play. Roll. I'm gonna roll a die that will tell us where we're going next. Here we go. Ben, I've rolled a four, which means we are on square four. It's a regular old episode. Chula! Did I win? Hardly.

Wow. An episode not in any danger of ruining any relationships ever. Mm. Fun. Yeah. Mm, fun. Yeah. Great. Yep. Yeah. Wow.

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