The Greatest Generation - Hair Metal Pinkertons (DS9 S4E15)

Episode Date: June 3, 2019

When Rom gets an earache, Dr. Bashir puts more into his head than just medicine. But after the employees of Quark’s go on strike, concessions of any kind are hard to come by. What is Dr. Bashir collecting in those thermoses? Who’s got nostalgia for the D? Is Morn a scab? It’s the episode you’ll want to listen to after being sick in bed.

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I've thought a lot about the tagline of our show that we're a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I don't think we realized how fundamental to the ethic of our show would wind up being over time. Yeah. When we started the show. Yeah. It's a big part of the thing, you know. It really resonates with people. It pisses a lot of people off you know the

people who aren't embarrassed right and and think that are being embarrassed is somehow a referendum on them not being embarrassed boy what's it like to not be embarrassed by your interests I would subscribe to that newsletter. Yeah. I don't know. Like I think it's cool to be like self-affirmative and proud of your own shit. It's just not how wired. Yeah, no.

Yeah, this isn't an indictment on the many good people who are proud nerds of this and any other interest. But yeah, I mean, I think that's always gonna be my relationship to this material. Like, I love it, I love it deeply, but I'm not putting it out on the street. Yeah, there's also the kind of person that's like super embattled about their nursery

in a way that I like can't really get with. You know, like if you say something, if you say you don't like something that they like then their pissed off at that God I just could not care any less about someone not liking something that I like right Someone like me. Yeah, I guess I said something that About superhero movies on here at some point that somebody yelled at me about on Twitter I don't remember what it was and they didn't give me some point that somebody yelled at me about on Twitter. I don't remember what it was and they didn't give me any context when they yelled at me about it. It's just like,

like, I don't know, it's the fucking biggest cultural force in the universe right now. Like, I don't think anything I say is gonna do anything to stop it. Like, take the W, man. Also, like, who cares what we say? You're the one caring about it? Yeah. I'm an idiot. Yeah. I admit it in the subtitle of my own podcast. Yeah, but speaking of times, we've been embarrassed. I have a bad bit moment that I thought I would share with you Adam. That's the good way to go. Oh, that dude with bits, bits, bits. No matter what, you're always doing bits, bits, bits.

No matter what, you're always doing bits, bits, bits. I was doing bits. Bad bit moment. Bad bit moment. Lay it on me. So, usually these are times we did a bit out in the world in a context where it wasn't really a time or place where bits are being done and they didn't land well, whatever, but you were actually there for this one.

Oh. And I wrote it down because it was so painful to watch this bit just burn up on the launch pad and that fucking school teacher and the cockpit and nothing we could do to save her. I'm a little unclear on the timeline of when this episode comes out, but I think we'll still be in the midst

of our friendly fire tour of duty, our little mini tour of friendly fire that we're doing this ring. And the tour like came together super last minute, like we announced it way later than we would normally announce. It was like literally like a call where we got on the phone with our booking agent and what I had understood In talking to you and John was that we were going to cancel the tour in this phone call And what we wound up doing was booking the tour and like going like okay. I guess we have to announce it like tomorrow Oh fuck the way you want to do something that

Can cost you a lot of money right? Yeah, so so it was, you know, it has been a bit of a hectic spring for us as a result. And I wrote this down during the call because there was a lot surprising me during the call, but this maybe surprised me the most that I did a little bit and did not work. The bit was we were like kind of,

we were all kind of like taking each other's temperatures. Are we doing this tour or not? And I said, sure. I want to get on the road again. The light by love is making podcasts with my friends. And I just want to get out on the road again. And you laugh now. But there were like, it was like Rob Schulte edited in a fucking crickets drop on that fucking call because John Are you booking agent Josh and you Yes, I gave me a Clean five seconds of silence like we wouldn't have even had to like cut clips to edit in the the cricket sound effects because there was silence there

It is like Willie Nelson, no, nothing. And that's a musical reference that should hit all of us. I thought that, like, I am the least likely to get that reference of the four people that were on that call by far. That was the most shocking element of it. It's like, like, I thought that there's no way that could have been been. Did that be our booking agent, right?

And then I was in this weird position where I was like, did nobody get that? Like, did they not note? Am I the only person that knows that song? Sometimes in a conference type call, you know, your audio will drop. And you may be moved to ask if everyone's still there. That's not a question you want to ask after doing a bit.

No. Because that just seems like super needy. That's a bit needy. Yeah. So the confusion I had in that moment was like, A, did nobody know the song, and therefore not get it, or B, was it just so profoundly unfunny? Like, you would think that my close friends and colleagues would give me at least a courtesy

laugh on that one. You're not wrong. I will tell you that, I mean, I remember the moment now that you've reminded me of it. I want to believe that it was, we had spreadsheets open and calendars open, and I feel like my attention was divided between the call and like the logistics of what we were talking about. And by the time, like retroactively, my mind heard what you said several seconds later, like the time, the time for natural laughter was over and the one sound that I hate more than any in the world is performative laughter.

And I wasn't going to do that to you or for you. And maybe that was the conflict in my mind at that point. Is it possible that everybody had that problem though? Everybody was looking at a spreadsheet when I said that. I mean, I can tell you one thing that I would bet all of my possessions on and my own life on is that John did not have a spreadsheet open at that moment. John was in a car or a bathtub or a or a or pooping or yeah, any number of things. But yeah, that he did not have a screen. That's for sure.

I have a question, because I really like going on tour, and I feel like we always have a lot of fun going on tour. But I remember at some point, either during that call or right before it or something, you said something like, oh, you know, Ben always like is the one that's really like wanting to go on tour. Is that true? Do you really wanting to go on tour. Is that true to you, not like going on tour that much? That's a good question. I think I'm one of those people that feel better about it once it's over

than in the run up and during. Wow. And that's not to say that it's never not a great time or something. I just, like, the logistics of those things I are like a self-imposed stress. Like, you make fun of me a lot for how organized I am about things, but it's just like the only way that my mind-confunction is to, like, spreadsheet shit out. And, like, that's the way I understand how things work. And my need to do things like that to every little thing is even more pronounced

when it comes to four people and hotel and flight information and who to contact the venues. It's just an order of magnitude problem. If we got to a point in our career where we had like a tour manager who just told us, you know, like tomorrow you have to be in the lobby at this time and we didn't have to have our fingers on any of that stuff, would that make it more fun for you? You know what this is related to? It's like, I think John and I were having this conversation a couple of days ago. Like, we have done our best to construct a professional life that on the surface should

be stress-free, but in reality, it's incredibly stressful because of the self-imposed schedule concerns that we have on any given day or at any given week. And it's like what having a podcast producer does to alleviate that stress for some shows. Like the analog to that is the tour manager possibility that would alleviate a lot of that stress. Like we've said before, like the most stressful moments in my life are the hour before doors while we're still tacking a show. And so I guess that's like a long-winded way to say that if you were able to remove everything

beside the performance from the door, that was stressful to me. I would 100 times out of 100 choose to go out on tour, but like it's all the other, it's all of the eels attached to things that, like, there are so many of those other concerns in opposition to the one fun thing that happens on tour that, that like, the math is bad. Yeah, to me, for me, like, the time in between walking out on stage and like shaking the last hand and taking the last picture in line, in the line at the merch table afterwards is like, as much fun as I have

most years. Yeah, I agreed. Like it's so fucking great. No question. Yeah. And it feels worth it to me to do all the like logistical stuff, but it is a fucking mountain of logistical stuff. And I will say that like it's never so much that I feel like we shouldn't do it. You shouldn't feel like I'm being dragged out. There did you that stuff. If I didn't want to do it, I wouldn't do it. Okay.

I'm stubborn enough to not participate in a thing that I don't want to do. Yeah, I would not expect you to agree to something that you weren't into 100% for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that is to agree to something that you weren't into 100% for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that is to say that on future tours, I, I hope we don't agree to a thing that we then do several weeks later. I like a little more pre-production time.

Yeah, I think that this rule, this friendly fire tour has been of particular stress just because that amount of time we had to put it together was a quarter as much as we usually get. Yeah, like getting ticket counts for show six months in advance is a pretty chill message to receive instead of the one for six days from now where you're like, get it up. This could be the situation. Well, all that being said, it is really fun to tour. And when we tested our ability to tour back in the day

with our two captains, one nexus tour, we had no right to think that we would have the capability of putting on a fun show. Neither of us were performers prior to that. I'm really glad that we went out on that first tour and did it all ourselves. We really were introduced to what you have to do to do a show. And that first four show run. It made me appreciate all of the benefits that a booking agent Grants and how much easier it is to tour when when you don't have to

Like there's a lot of shit behind the scenes that goes along with touring that that can be both easy and hard depending on On your relationships to certain people, so right. We're in a better place now for sure Yeah, we sure are we're very lucky lucky to have met the people we've met. And I think we're lucky to have found a way to put on a show that is fun for people to come see, because I really like doing it. I think the main, main, main best thing about what we do is like we have the control of what we're doing, and that is related to the episode we're going to watch today, Ben. Wow.

That is a fucking professional level pivot. Right? Shit. We control the means of production, Ben, for Uxbridge, Shimoda, LLC. Let's see how it works at Quark's bar as we discuss Deep Space 9 Season 4 episode 15 bar association. Do you realize how it kind of all this is? No, of course you don't. Love our Burton episode.

Bullshit, man. It's just bullshit. Yeah. So this episode starts with the little D coming home with a broom on the mast. They've been out in the gamma quadrant. They've made a clean sweep, no gem in the dark. Warf briefly rode the conning tower

in their escape from the G-quad. Yeah. There's a little interaction between him and Dax that kind of like, uh, it's like all super pro and then a little dab of flirtation peppered in. Mr. Warf, you're in love. Yeah. With the defiant. There's like a fun double-talk happening between Dax and Warf.

But for someone eavesdropping, what they're hearing is, is Wharf is like a guy with a car that needs tinkering all the time. Wharf has fallen for his ship. Yeah. And I like that DAX has like an extra dimension of this conversation that she understands that he clearly doesn't. Yeah. You know, like, like, she understands that they're flirting and he is flirting, but he does not understand that they're flirting. They clearly have chemistry together, but I still don't know why she likes him. Wurf has had a bad season, I think, in season four as a character. Yeah. He's not been particularly good professionally.

He's definitely not good, personally, with his family affairs. He just killed his brother. Yeah, and so like besides their interest in mechleth versus batleth training, I'm at a loss for really what it is that attracts them as people. Sometimes that's something that you can't quite put your finger on man. Love. Finds a way. It's pretty hard for me to imagine what my wife likes about me. Yeah. But I don't want a question at too much. That's right. You don't want to crush that rabbit. Worf just wants to have sex with the Defiant. Put it right in the Warp Core. I feel like we're going to get over the course of the series a lot of establishing shots in Quarks of O'Brien and Bashir wearing X kind of weird garb

on their way to the Hollisweets. And it's kind of a weird reverse walk of shame, right? You've got to go through Quarks to go to the Hollisweets. Yeah. And they seem to be the onlyks to go to the Hollisweets. Yeah. And they seem to be the only ones that ever do that kind of walk. Yeah, and they're in their game of Thrones cosplay.

You know there's a version of this walk where a bedraggled Dr. Bashir emerges from a Hollisweet, like with his hair messed up and he's super sweaty and gross. Like, you never see that version. Nobody's ever in in their quarters, putting on their, their gimp outfit and they go like computer site-to-site transfer at the Hall of Sweet too.

Yeah, that would be preferred, wouldn't it? Right. Yeah. I think I have the holographic dominatrix flag them for an hour. They don't want everybody to see what they're into. You only see them going in and not coming out. Yeah, I feel like over this series,

we are also going to find the directors and show runners of this program, find ways for Lita to bend over and pick something up off the floor in an establishing shot. Look, I'm gonna believe that this is not Levar Burton direction here. I think this is just a sensibility that the show has,

W. Slashar, Slashji, Lita. Right. No one really catches either O'Brien or Bashir in their weird warrior garb, or Lita's bend over in Quarks, because Quarks is kind of deserted. Yeah, it is, it's like B the Jorn Lent, basically, right? Yeah.

Or the Jorn Ramadan. They've all sworn off the pleasures of the flesh, and that includes hollow sweets and gambling and drinking. And yeah, like there's the davo girl with the prodigious underboob has nobody to spin the wheel for. It's a real shame too.

And despite this, Rahm is being forced to work through an ear ache. Oh! And given the size of those ears, you can imagine what an ear ache is like. It hurts! It introduces the question of whether or not quark is more of an uncaring boss or an uncaring brother.

Yeah. Because he displays absolutely no mercy. I really like the little chemistry experiment that happens here. This is something that happens fairly seldom, but often enough that I think it's a bit of a star-track trope, the like chemistry experiment at the bar, where like one solution is introduced to another and it like foams up or changes color in a cool way. And then Ram dumps this concoction in his ear. You're kind of like the misdirection

is that he's mixing a cocktail for more. But in fact, he's making something corrosive to pour into his ear to deal with whatever is ailing him. I gotta say, like because it's Ram, I expected this liquid to come out of his other ear. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Cheers! Yeah, exactly. Like, it would tell you so much about their physiology. Yeah. Lita comes over expressing concern for what Ram is going through and Quark kind of jumps down her throat. I pay you to spin the double wheel, so get spinning.

And we actually cut to Ram's POV, a rare POV shot for a Star Trek. And it's like blurring in and out. It's just a vignette of Lita's boobs. Hahaha. Last episode we talked about how I got like incredibly sick on your birthday, get away in Mexico. Uh huh. This was as sick as I've ever felt. You were boob vignette sick?

Well, there were two hours where I was in bed in my room. And I was panting because breathing through my nose was slightly more uncomfortable than breathing through my mouth. And in the wake of that, like I was sick all day. I was in, I was very uncomfortable all day. But there was a point at the middle of the day where I was like, I was like, uh,

I've been sick and bed for like eight hours. Maybe I should jack off. You know it always helps pop, I feel better. Like maybe it'll make me sleepy and I'll be able to sleep through some of this. Like, would that have been the worst walk-in that your wife could ever do? Concerned wife or her sick husband? Oh my god! What are you? You fucking piece of shit. You're not sick.

So was this all about trying to find some time to do that? All of your friends are upstairs. You've never been too sick to Jack have been. That's how we knew it was serious. Yeah. Bashir can change current's appearance, current's memory, and his genetic code, but when it comes to ROMs ear infection It is a big big challenge and be sure kind of kind of gets into it with ROM a little bit on on why he might have let this go on for so long because

ear maladies for for angies can get pretty serious. This is a three-week-old ear infection and You know if you've got like a staff infection in your ear, that could be lethal. That's a lot of spilled product going into the ear canal over that amount of time, right? Yeah. Quark is gonna notice that's not just alcohol evaporation. That's more than the normal shrink that would be anticipated by a bar.

Rahm mentions as an excuse that, you know, there are no sick days or vacations or paid overtime at quarks, like he had to work through his illness. Yeah, he didn't have free time to come into the, into the infirmary and appreciate. Kind of tosses off fairly casually, like, oh, he's former union.

Yeah, but she's also like tending to a novelty thermos collection as he dispenses this advice. I know. Yeah, it almost looked like the like sports drink section of a 7-Eleven over there. Yeah. What was that about? I don't know.

That is like such different prop design than we normally see on this show. Yeah. But Rom is back together and speaking of Jack and it, he's back in Quirks Bar and lead us like, what happened to your ear? And he's like, oh, I've been, I've been umoxing myself too much.

Is it the first time there's ever been a reference to masturbation on Star Trek? I actually looked this up at him because it caught my attention. It's the first reference to masturbation in the history of television. Wow. Wow. Yeah. The thing is like you've got to pee after umox or else you're going to get an ear infection. Yeah. Yeah. That's how orcs for for for rinky. And it's your partner might just might just slip off and go to sleep, but you got to get up and pee.

And that's it seems unfair, you know. Yeah. Go to cut. Go to cut. Go to cut. So. So there's an all hands meeting at Quarks and Quark announces that he is cutting everyone's salary by a third because cutting salary is better

than doing a layoff. Well, they've got this great deal in capitalism where the workers suffer when the company is not doing that well, but there's no upside for them when the company is doing great. Yeah, there is no profit sharing situation at Quartco. They don't issue you stock certificates as you vest in the company. There was a time in one of my many retail jobs where the company I worked for did do profit sharing. Wow.

If you were an hourly employee and the company had a particularly good year when it came time for the yearly financials, some of the profits were shared among employees, but that was a long, long time ago. And the idea of that almost seems quaint right now. Right? Yeah, it does. This same company I worked for was like many of the companies

where there was a strange relationship with union and non-union employees wherein non-union employees looked at scants at union employees. And the company itself was very, very, very discouraging of the union employees and the idea of forming unions to the degree that the understanding of such a concept

was actively suppressed and ridiculed. There's anti-union propaganda that like pervage just the way they are talked about. Like the image of the union employee is like lazy and entitled and like taking breaks all the time and stuff is like, it is a poison in our culture that I totally have

like drank that Kool-Aid at times in my life, like working on film sets and you're like, oh, the fucking teamsters are like taking their break right now or whatever. And it's like, yeah, because human beings don't need to work 24 hours a day. And I think you don't really realize like who's interested is in that you incorporate ideas like that in your assessment of people who have chosen to become members of a union.

They're like relying on you not to ask that question of yourself. Absolutely. The first union interaction came when I was 15 years old and I was working like my very first job was at a grocery store and I worked at a union building and I worked maybe 16 hours a week for minimum wage and I had to pay like $60 a month in union dues and that was a big portion. Yeah. That's a big percentage of a kid's take home pay.

Totally. At that point and it really like a kid's take home pay. Totally. At that point, and it really, I was an unsophisticated idiot, and I still am, but that was a bad introduction to that. Lemonade was a popular drink, and it still is. That's a bad introduction to the concept, and it took me a while to come around to the idea of all the benefits of such a thing. Yeah. Historical and otherwise.

But anyways, Quark announces all of these wage decreases to everybody. And Ram is the one that comes and sticks up for everybody. He kind of zaps Quark as the meeting breaks up and is like, hey, like these people are already living paycheck to paycheck. You can't do this to them Yeah, and you can't do it unilaterally and without warning and And Quirk is like, I'm the bus. I can do whatever the fuck I want like if you don't want the job You don't you don't have to keep it. Yeah, and ROM like levels a thinly veiled threat in that moment If you don't reason the pay cuts

You're to regret it. Mechleth training has continued to pace between war from DAX. It's not a 2B continued, but it really just like picks up a story thread from the previous episode. And that's like, I think something this show is starting to do more and more. Like we're just living in a world where a storyline that didn't quite wrap up in the previous episode can find life in the next episode. Evidently, a warrior does not use the locker room shower in the hollow suites, because they're headed back home.

And they hear a rumble from the air duct and a daptarian falls out of the ceiling tiles onto the floor. Near warfs quarters. Do not move. Yeah. He's carrying a bunch of warfs shit. Why would you steal a tooth sharpener? Why would you break into the only click on on the station's quarters?

Find a different target, I think. Yeah, find a target of a guy who's not likely to be coming home with a sword in his hand. Yeah, the worst. So Warf brings this crook to Odo's office and has him booked and kind of lights into Odo. Kind of gets up on the old high horse and starts to make the case that Odo is terrible at security.

What I want to know is how such a security breach was allowed to occur in the first place. This is a conflict that they've already kind of had. Like the first minister, Shikar, is visiting the station episode, had a lot of this stuff in it. And Odo happens to have an iPad at the ready, like for quick draw with a bunch of like, episode recaps as written by the Netflix corporation

of Times War Fucked Security Up. This is great. On the enterprise. Yeah. Like, I think that you got to find better instances of worth doing bad at security, because these ones, like the, like, Feranghi's using two worships

to take over the enterprise and a guy tricking them into thinking he was a time traveler and stealing shit. Those are not worth fault exactly. Yeah. And this is two episodes in a row where the warf-odo conflict is alive and well. And I like it. I'm here for it.

I do like it. In a secret meeting of employees of Quarkco, Rahm has made the case for unionization. He's distributed cards, and he would like them completed and filled out. Yeah, the meeting is pretty intense because all the Frangies have a bit of a stutter when they use the U word.

We're going to format a what a Union you get to fun random for Angus here in this scene It makes me want like the foringy book of baby names because rule and Grimp are like they feel like names that a computer has come up with like combining Combining letters into into a somewhat pronounceable name. I love it. I wish we got like one of the other non-Leader aliens perspectives because there's like three or four dabo girls and maybe like a cocktail waitress among the assembled group of what will come to be known as the restaurant in casino employees guild. And they just don't have speaking roles.

There's two vorangies that speak up and Lita and then the yellow underboob lady and everybody else are just extras. And I would have like to know, like, is there unified support for this idea among the non-ferengues and it's the fringes that need to be brought around or what? Yeah, and that's a good question because so much of the passion weight falls to Lita. And I think that is mixed results because Lita is the one basically lighting the burn barrel immediately. And like, your eye for a lot of reasons

catches her in the background because she's lead, but also she's the most expressive and excitable during these moments. I do like that she's sort of the few clothes of this situation. I go ton for ton, Norton Cove, and in a manhail. Given what her wardrobe usually looks like. Anybody that gets the Maituan reference in the audience

is gonna be really delighted by that one. I sure didn't, I'm sorry. That's James Earl Jones' part in a movie about like unionizing coal mines in West Virginia. Wow, all right, we've got some homework. So, Fruel and Grimp are resistant to the idea, but Rom is super persuasive. That this is like what Rom does.

When he is supremely motivated about a topic, he is very articulate and persuasive with people around him. You think about the qualities of leadership, and Rom is not an emblematic example of any of the things you think of. And yet I feel like this is one of many examples of him kind of writing for what's right

and like getting people on his side about it. I was thinking the other day, like why is Rom not an impression we do on this show? Yeah. And I think it would seem cruel in a way that I don't think that any of the impressions we do are intended to be. But there's this other aspect of his character, which is that he's like a righteous dude.

They all adore it. Yeah, I mean, he is inspiring. He truly is. And he wins everybody over. Like, the thing that everybody, Ferengi in this room is scared of, is the FCA, the law enforcement body of foreign culture. And they're like, the fact that you've said this basically means we're all fucked forever for the rest of our lives. We will have the FCA hounding us. And he's like, good, like let's fucking strike a blow

that will reverberate even for them. What you need to do is keep this relationship alive. The line of communication must be preserved between Rahm and Bashir, because for as passionate as Rahm is about constructing this union, he knows nothing about unions. And so as a subject matter expert, Bashir needs to be involved. And so Rahm pays him a visit mid-sist pop

because O'Brien is there. He walks into our slash popping. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien, except I've got a disgusting siss to the back of my neck. Yeah, and I guess that's what all of the thermoses are for. What Bashir does is like light a match inside one of the thermoses and then put the opening around the siss. Fucking snake-tank you. It's gross, and it's funny. a match inside one of the thermoses and then put the opening around the cyst. Fucking spectacular. It's gross and it's funny.

It's one of the lighter moments in the episode here. I thought it was funny. I like, the thing that hit me in this moment was, why aren't there like weird, like, oh, you got like a rash from a cardassian bowl and it's like something really weird looking or like I want like a weird space disease you know like it since it's a cyst it's something that is only talked about and not shown. Let's do some weird loaf on the Maccachivo Brian's neck you know like let's put something let's put

something real real out there. Give us a space cyst. Yeah I want a space cyst. Sounds threatening. Anything sounds worse when you put space in front of it, right? Right. So, so, Ram is there asking, like, what do I do? And, and O'Brien is like, oh yeah, like I come from a long line of blue-collar people. And one of my ancestors in like the 1900s was a union guy who shut down the coal mines or whatever and that's like that's how they

extracted a better contract from the management and that is like the first time ROM has encountered the idea of like a work stoppage as what a collective bargaining organization might use as leverage to get better pay. Oh Brian turns to be sheer and he's you know what, we should actually do that as a Hollisuite program. Let's do the union program. And Bishir is like, cool. That's great.

Yeah, awesome. So what do I wear to that? O'Brien comes from a long line of martyred union guys. And this again, very inspiring. My ancestor died heroically as a Union man. He got shot a whole bunch of times. You remember when Lieutenant Dan talks about his, like, the generation after generation of Dan's who have died in battle and like they do the montage of like them all falling dead on the battlefield It would have been great to see like

Kalamini made up in different Make up like like like falling into a burn barrel falling into the gears being shot and thrown off a bridge Throwing his Cebo Yeah, stabbed with his own picket sign. Hahaha. Fun. They could have used the set from San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

My dad was involved in a labor action in San Francisco of restaurant workers in like the 70s, I think. And he was a fucking scab, wasn't he? No, somebody from the restaurant poured sugar in the gas tank of his VW bus. Has there ever been a more San Francisco story than what you just told? No.

Pretty far out, man. Yeah, I come from a long line of people who were at almost self-parademic image of the time and place that they found themselves in. For example, in the mid to late 2000s, when I was a hip-hop music video director, living in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, who had a cocktail business on the side.

If someone were to give me a character sketch for a television program, I would say it was two on the nose. A little two on the nose. Yeah. It feels like it's been forever since we've been to ops, been like, like has it been five episodes since we've been here? Anyway, we returned to ops because O'Brien... I had to rebuild the set. Yeah. They only rebuilt the part that O'Brien needs to inspect because he's crawling around under worst station. And this is a moment for O'Brien and Worf to have a moment where they reminisce on the good times, on the enterprise D, on

the big D. Times which in retrospect weren't great for both because in a chief O'Brien it worked kind of way. Chief O'Brien does not miss those days, he actually likes all the action that he gets at the station. Have you any idea how bored I used to get sitting in the transporter room waiting for something to break down? And that feeling stands in opposition to Warf, whose nostalgia for the D takes the form of predictability. Like he knew what to expect over there.

He knew where everything was. He knew who everyone was. He knew his quarters weren't going to get broken into. Well, and I think that it's interesting because deep space nine kind of provides O'Brien with a thing that Wurf had on the D, which is like, there's always something to do. And O'Brien is describing a life where like, he basically never had anything to do on the D.

I think there's a strange relationship between O'Brien and his appreciation for being needed. You know, as a thing that works both in work and in family, that wharf clearly does not require in his life from either. He resents being needed by both his family and his workplace. Yeah.

And it makes them very different. It's two people trying very hard to connect and being so different that they kind of can't. It's an interesting scene in a fairly uninteresting B storyline. I wanna say. They should be best friends, shouldn't they? Because if what Wharf misses more than anything

is the big D, there's O'Brien. Like there is a person that embodies that time for him. Yeah. There it sits. And he rejects it. Nostalgia is a very toxic impulse. Is there a buddy John Hodgman is right to say? Yeah. So Court comes back to the bar and finds a tablo of all of his

employees assembled there to tell him that they would like to renegotiate their contract. And Quark basically thinks they're doing bits. Yeah, this is a bad bit moment for Quark. Yeah, basically. Like, you know, he starts like reading through the list and laughing and laughing and and then gives just like the greatest face of all time when would ROM announces that they are going on strike. Like, like the Quark react to that is perfect. Lita does a yeah over ROM shoulder that is reflected and amplified by Quarx in creduity here.

It's like 11 out of 10. Is your read on it that Quarx in that react is still like you guys are fucking idiots? Like, oh fuck you, you're going on strike. How hilarious. Or is it like, yeah. It's because of it's not that it's a bad take. No, it's such a sophisticated acting choice. Yeah, yeah. It's because of it's not that, it's a bad take. No, it's such a sophisticated acting choice. Yeah, agreed.

But it also gives us like one of the funniest faces we've ever gotten on the show. Yeah, it truly is. It's, it's tilly card worthy, for sure. This is a strike and a picket line that pays customers not to enter the bar. Is that what they're doing? Kind of a new spin on striking laborers.

Are they giving out Latinum? Yeah, to not go in the bar. Wow. Yeah, and I don't know if it's fruool or grim, but they're like, boy, I sure hope we have enough slips to wait out the strike. That's such a funny detail. I didn't realize that's what they were doing.

I thought they were handing out pamphlets or something, but thinking about it in that way, the naivete of, we'll pay people not to go in, is such a true thing that Rahm would actually come up with. Yeah, it feels like a very natural idea for him to have. They really should have stationed some of the picket line near that side door because later on when O'Brien and Bashir like betting on who's gonna go in

and who's not. Like they need some slips of Latinum up there. Yeah, so there's like a brief interaction. Like Odo comes in and Quirk has an army of hollow quarks working in lieu of his employees and he says like, he says you should arrest those people, beat up the people that are fighting for their own rights out there. And Odo is like, yeah, like I probably would.

I'm more naturally on your side on this than I am on their side. But I have strict orders from Katz and Cisco, not to impinge on your employees freedom of expression. So we cut upstairs and O'Brien and Berser are like, actually like taking bets on who will scab and who won't. I like this game a lot. Yeah, Paclids are scabs.

We see a Paclid in there. I thought it was interesting that we didn't get to find out whether Morn was a scab or not. Wow, Yeah. Cause like, he's always there. I think it's cause the truth is you know he's there. But that might be the most obvious answer. But they don't want you to hate Morn. Yeah, you gotta love Morn.

But Warf is also a scab, which is a shocker. So much lately feels like happens off-screen. Because once Warf enters, O'Brien's like, oh no, we've got to educate Wurf on what's happening here. And so Bashir and O'Brien follow him in. We've got to human explain this to Wurf. Yeah, they have a pretty clear difference of opinion when it comes to labor versus management. And then we basically cut to the break to tell the story, which is a fun bit of comedy through edit.

Yeah, I liked it. And I liked the, I liked that it was a red blue gold trio in the in the brig. Yeah. There's three guys who have like very different approaches to dignity, but take their dignity seriously, and it is really fun to see that undercut in this scene. Yeah.

I feel like Bashir should be more fucked up for throwing over a table by Wharf. Yeah. I don't think it's bad to have had a little more blood there. I would love to see a neck brace. To be quite honest about it, I was in a pale, I'm fucking in pain. Mr. Bucket, I have to reverse back to my state. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore.

Anyway, Cisco is like you guys are fucking idiots and you're gonna spend the night in jail. I'm not gonna do anything to help you right now, even though I could. Cisco gets the opportunity to spend the night in jail. I'm not going to do anything to help you right now, even though I could. Cisco gets the opportunity to be the taciturn teacher figure of this scene, you know? He is loved by these three, but they also need to be punished. But Cisco does take a meeting with Quark, who thinks that, you know, Cisco is going to be naturally aligned to him, not doing the math on the whole like socialist utopia that Cisco comes from.

And there's a pretty astounding reveal about the arrangement that Quark has, W-slash-R-slash-T-Rent in this scene, which is that apparently he owes monthly rent on this bar but has not been paying it for years. And he doesn't pay his electrical bill or anything. He's been earning a profit, a huge profit over the years, and yet pays no taxes. Cool. Fucking hate it when I find that out about a company. Pretty shitty way to be a good citizen.

This is a hell of a revelation, Ben. And this is something that Cisco uses as leverage against Quark. You're a very generous people. He's like, if you'd like, I can run your tab. Would you like that? Because if you don't, you should bargain. Would you like me to, like, mo, send Barney's bar tab to NASA to get tabulated? You owe me $70 billion.

Yeah, so that really hits Quark where it hurts. And so Quark has to bargain with Ram. And at the 40-minute mark in the episode, we finally get a, like, so much goes on said between Quark and Ram in this episode. And one of the things that is not said until this moment is the fact that they are brothers. And he's basically saying, like,

you're hurting me as a brother. And I need you to end this strike. And I will essentially bribe you to do that. Yeah. Which is classic union busting tactic, trying to appeal to the averis of the leader of the action. And it does not work. To Ram's credit, he throws the Latin them right back in Quark's face.

What's happened to you? The stress is heightened almost immediately because by not resolving the situation then and there, we cut right over to the appearance of Brunt inside the darkened bar at Quarks and he's there to end the dispute by any means necessary. And instead of like holding a Billy Club and like patting it against his palm, there are some soft-focused in the background as his heavies. Brunt has rolled through with hair metal pinkertens. Yeah. And naturally, Brunt and Quark are aligned here, because Brunt and Quark both have an interest

in quelling this uprising. But there's like a meeting of the strikers that we cut to that they're starting to feel like they're on their way to victory. Did Grimp look a little bit like Nog to you? Yeah. I wondered if they used some of the the nog loaf or something like that. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Because it's, I don't think the actors are related, but he just,

he seemed a little bit like nog. Yeah. I don't know why. When Brunt confronts the assembled strikers, there is not an even split of resistance and and not resistance. Frual is basically on the ground in in fear and shame because what Brunt is threatening is that should you keep striking your family funds on Ferenganar will be seized and and you will be like you will receive a house of moge style punishment on Ferenganar. And Brunt looks down at Fruel on the ground, offering to suck his dick. And he says, Fruel, you idiot, my dick is up here. And he points at his ears.

Yeah, the return of Brunt, uh, it's really throwing his weight around. He's a heavy and And really twisting them, like the idea of retribution against their families is really scary. And I think maybe one place that this episode fails a little bit is the idea that they decide that that's okay,

like everybody decides that they're okay with their families being fucked over also. Yeah. I mean, I imagine that some wood and some wooden... Ron makes the case that like, oh yeah, your bank account back on Ferenc and R will be liquidated, but you wouldn't be working as a bartender if you had a really impressive bank account. But that's not the extent of Brunce Threat. As the episode comes to a close, we cross-cut between this strike and what Wurf is going

to do about his living situation, because in the aftermath of that bar brawl between Wurf, Bashir, and O'Brien, Wurf is just unsettled enough about his circumstances there to say fuck it, I'm moving to the defiant. Which seems like a really out there kind of plan but you'll be living out there all by yourself Because to our knowledge no one lives on the defiant. It just sits empty like an RV on a parking pad, you know I know yeah, I mean every time you cut to the exterior of the station and then D in the little D isn't on a mission or something There's like a big tarp over it because it's not totally watertight. Like it's kind of a depressing place to live, but yeah, it's where

Wurf wants to live. Yeah. He likes that federation architecture. On. Sweet. Lord. You need everybody. Have a time.

A significant moment in this episode is Ram walking lead a home after More, more, more. Do you hear everybody? More! Stop! Have a time. A significant moment in this episode is Rom walking lead-ah-home after a hard day of striking. Yeah. And she kisses him goodbye at the end of it, like a friend kiss and Rom takes this as something that means much, much more.

Were he able to blush? He would be a rosy pink at this moment. Yeah. And Quark kind of emerges from the corner of the hallway, like cigarette smoking man in the ex-vials. Yeah, there's a lot of shadows to lurk in on the space station. Yeah. Like you could never do a scene like this on the D. And one of the things that this episode does really well is, is misdirect who you think is in trouble. For striking, because what's happening right now in this scene is quark, is like, look man, you need to be taking brunt way more seriously than you are,

because I've seen the Noscons he's got. And I don't want you to get hurt. Those guys will say, play dumb, jot, human. Yeah. Like nobody's business. You're not just in professional danger, you're in mortal danger. But Ram is not who is in mortal danger. It turns out it's quirk.

Right. Prunt kind of pitches this at him. He's like, we can't make a murder of Ram. Yeah. So we're thinking about beating the shit out of Lita, but I'm too personally sprung off of Lita to do that. So the only other person that is really close to Ram is you. So, sorry, but I know we're on the same side of this thing,

but we're gonna have to beat the shit out of you. And when we cut to the infirmary, Quark is fucked up. Quark is fucked up the way Bishir maybe should have been. Yeah, you know, that's a great point. They didn't have enough of the, uh, of the Bruce color to go around. He's got the neck brace, the technological head bandage. Does it hurt?

Of course it hurts. Too bad. I didn't think Rom would have it in him to gloat. Like I just didn't think that was in keeping with how gentle he is, typically as a person, but he has that capacity and that's what he's there to do. They come to an agreement here, which is like a lot of political progress,

a little bit disappointing. Yeah. But a move in the right direction. Disappointing because the true deal is in private and not in public. Yeah, and that the union is dissolved. Do you think the dissolution of the union is also a lie for the public, but actually is still there in private? It might be a lie for quirk. If quirk believes that the union is dissolved, that's what needs to happen for him to make

the deal, right? You know, the great thing about a union is that you can dissolve a union and reconfigure a union whenever you want to so it's not like by saying we're gonna dissolve it now that does not limit the Possibility of it happening again Right so yeah the the agreement is basically like dissolve the union and will and we'll do We'll do the demands in the in the new contract and And that will get branched off with both of our backs.

And that's pretty much the button on the app. It's a happy group of employees at Quarks. And the twist is that Ram takes this labor action across the finish line and then quits. Which is great. He got a new job. He took the correspondence class. He's working nights He is a customer and not an employee and Ben that is a great great feeling

It's very satisfying to enter a place where you used to work as a customer instead He looks great in his little uniform. I agree one other final uniform. Hey, agree. One other final piece of the episode is that Wharf does in fact move to quarters on the defiant DAX, gives him a housewarming gift of Klingon operas, and Wharf strips his bed in order to sleep directly onto the metal sheet. So that's that is that. Yeah. That's where he's living and he's fine with it. Did you like the episode Adam? I like it when labor wins. Obviously. Yeah.

Kind of a lot happens in this episode and I'm really looking forward to a ROM's relationship with Quark going forward. Where deep in the territory of Deep Space Nine episodes that I have never seen. So what's coming is going to be a complete surprise and I'm here for it. What about you? I really like seen. So what's coming is going to be a complete surprise, and I'm here for it. What about you? I really like it too. It's such a funny episode, because it really does feel like a bottle.

Yeah. And yet, so much changes in a way that is going to like change the dynamics between everybody on the show. Yeah, we are in Quark's bar all the time as a location on the show, and it's going to feel very different with Ram not there. The idea of a romance between Lida and Ram is an established fact. They didn't get distracted and forget about the idea of Dax and Wurf being on a romantic collision course. Yeah. and Worf being on a romantic collision course.

Despite the shit he's going through, like that's still totally on the table. On an empty defiant, no one can hear me jerk it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ben, why don't we see what we've got for a priority one message this week? I'd love to do with that. Pryority one message from Starfleet

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Drunk Shimoda! Two actually, they are the no seconds throwing darts at each other in the background of one of the quark's bar scenes. Just like, we know so little about the Nosecans except for the the one TNG episode, the Nosecans who stabbed Picard through the heart, one of the great TNG episodes, but like you learned so much about them in what they do in their free time. It's Dom-Chot and Games of Pain and these two nosy-cons throwing darts at each other make them my Shimoda.

What about you? Before I get to my Shimoda for this episode, I have something fairly unprecedented, but I have to do it. Wow, okay. In watching this episode, we discover that Paclids are scabs. They're willing to cross a picket line

to fucking patronize a bar. Pretty fucked up. And my last, uh, the Pac-Lead, uh, a Pac-Lead was my, Chimota in the last episode. Whoa! That's right! I am gonna strip that Pac-Lead of Drunk Chimota status. As a result of my disapproval of the packled scab ethos. More like scabled. Yeah. Fuck packled, fuck crossing picket lines. Wow. I'm gonna give my Shemota in the last episode

and I apologize to Colin Dinsmore and the fine folks that run the greatest gen buckea. That's something they can just strike through, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's within their power. I'm going to retroactively give my drunk charmota to Kern in the last episode for how silly he looked in that weird cardassian,

biopad triangle thing. OK. And then for this episode, I've got to give it to Quark for the O-face he makes when the strike starts. Yeah, that's a crazy face. One of the great faces in the whole series, I think. I laughed so hard when he did that. Yeah, I rounded a couple of times.

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