The Greatest Generation - Hairy Fingers with a Galaxy Brain (VOY S4E9)

Episode Date: July 25, 2022

When Captain Janeway decides to ditch the nebula and try her luck in open space, she defies the Doc and endangers herself one too many times. But while Chakotay downgrades to season-one status, Paris saves the two-parter by sending Janeway what she needs to finally go down with the ship. What type of role play is Kevin into? What would Taffer find in Annorax’ walk-in? Why isn’t the year of hell an actual year? It’s the episode with tiki quantity and quality!Support the production of The Greatest Generation. Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Just a little bit of bearish about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranika. I'm Ben Harrison. Adam, why is this episode unlike all other episodes? Because it is a Coco No-no episode. I almost forgot. Another Coco No-no. Incredible! Coco No-no is a hell of a combination. Drink will be gone.

I think I've had enough already. This is gonna help me. Another Coco No-no. Bullshit. Another Coco No-no. Coco No-no. Coco No-no. More is better. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for this one. I have. Well, I mean, not to correct you. So I prepared a teaky drink times four. Whoa.

Hahaha. Hahaha. Do you ever just get it in you like you're I'm dedicated to the drunk right now like I I'm ready to go. You've been in a hundred square foot room by yourself for the last two weeks. You deserve it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to expand the square footage of my mind by way of a teaky drink.

Fan, would you like to know what I'm drinking? I'm very curious. I'm very, very curious. All right. I did a little bit of research and I let my fingers do the googling and I found a site that could tell me what teaky drinks I can make with the stuff that I have or could easily get. And one of the ones that I thought I could most easily make was something called a hale kulani. Have you had this? It sounds familiar but I don't know it's by heart. Here's what's in it. We got over-proof bourbon. Whoa.

I have plenty of that. So it's the over-proof bourbon backbone and then pineapple juice, lemon juice, orange juice, as the acid sour, a bar spoon granitein, half an ounce of Demarera syrup, a brown sugar syrup, and a dash of angusturabitters. Now, I made four of these. I made a large format version of this,

which I have filled my... I know I said I was gonna go coconut. Yeah. Cup this time, but I wanted to go clear glass because I wanted to see the color. I looked at these ingredients and I was like, well, this might be a pleasant shade of red. It is not, Ben.

It is brand new motor oil brown. Yeah, it's kind of an orangey brown, I would say. And that leads to a question. Is that an unpleasant color? Do you feel like most teaky drinks come in strange glasses that are opaque because they probably don't look good? Like they're all, most of them are going to be orangey brown, do you think? I think that that is probably why a lot of T.E. drinks come in mugs.

I was in Santa Barbara with my wife over the weekend and I ordered a drink called a Miami Vice at this place that we went to and I've actually seen this before. The Miami Vice has a combination, peanut collada and strawberry daiquiri. Oh yeah, I've had those in Hawaii. And I've seen them done up and down. This place did something, I have no idea how they accomplished it. It was a side by side Miami Vice.

Whoa, cool. The glass was shaped like a conch on its side. And somehow half of it was pink frozen beverage, and the other half was white frozen beverage, and there was like a pretty, like unbroken line of division down the middle. Wow. It was like a conch of plenty.

Yeah, booze. It was delicious. Well, what are you drinking now? Well, I had a bit of a teaky crisis when I got into my kitchen because I had looked earlier in the freezer and spotted some frozen pineapple. So I was like, well, I'm going to make something with my... It is well have my ropes taste good.

Yeah, yeah. I'm going to have great tasting ropes and a teaky beverage hang with my friend Adam. And I went in there expecting to throw frozen pineapple chunks into the blender and chase it with rum and some other stuff. I get the blender down, I put a bunch of rum into the blender and I go over the freezer to grab the bag of frozen pineapple. It was not frozen pineapple, but frozen mixed root vegetables. Adam.

Boop. Boop. So I abandoned that. Tell me that you made a savory, tiki drink. Yeah, it's parsnips, rootabegas, and carrots. Wow. Oh, and get me my veggie shake.

Yeah, so I had to kind of pivot midstream. And so what I've done is I made a blender drink, and the blender drink I made is kind of a teaky throw things in until it tastes good. So I think you are uniquely able to do that. I have filled a Vitamix blender almost three, I would say three-quarter to the top. I've nearly overfilled this blender picture. Wow. Just pouring rum in and then putting in some lime juice and then adding something sweet and then you know giving it a taste and then like, yeah, it's not strong enough. Add a little bit more rum. Could could use a little bit more sour. Add a little bit more lime juice and by the

time I had it balanced the way I wanted it. I had a great big beverage. So I think you and I are in similar straits as far as how much alcohol we have on hand for this. Hey, hold it up to the camera again. I want a screen grab that. I've chosen a Kirk Tiki mug for my beverage vessel. Cool. Wow. Looking good over there. I think we have the quantity right. That's for sure. Yeah. And let's see if we can bring some good quality to today's episode of the greatest generation. It's almost a certainty, Ben, whenever we have a drinking episode, it's going to be a classic or a fucking train wreck. One or the other.

or a fucking train wreck, one or the other. Well, train wreck allows for a great pivot bin, a spectacular destruction of a giant vehicle. Also on the menu today, boys, at the end of Star Trek Voyager season four episode nine, year of hell, part two. Cheers, buddy. Cheers to you, Ben. Reaper, of course.

Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Oh, man, I mean, the drink I made is delicious. I did that thing where it called for a lot of sweet. Yeah. And I have to the sweet on my Hale Kulani. Yeah. And I think it's better for it.

I think you got to be real careful with those online recipes. You can always add sweet later. A lot of them are going to get you into the cruise ship territory of sweetness. And you don't want that. Oh, Ben, before I forget, let's get into the bread zone. It's a good point. We got to get into the bread zone. And if I perish during this episode,

Adam, bury me facing down. You know, even before seeing that episode, I would have buried you face down. But now you can like, play this recording to my wife and she'll know that, you know. Yeah. When she glimpses the recording, she'll understand. Yeah, when she glimpses the recording, she'll understand. Adam, it's day 133 of the year of hell. Sure is. Not even halfway in. Janeway has done the thing that all starship captains do when it's their last best idea, fighting a superior enemy, taking that ship into the nebula.

Yeah, they're hiding in the nebula. She says that they've been left vulnerable to spatial anomalies. And I was like, damn, like, are there so many spatial anomalies that like most of them, you don't even notice? Like when a spatial anomaly is big enough to like penetrate the ship is when it rises to the importance of having an episode about it. Yeah, sure seems that way. They have bailed.

They've bailed on all of it in this nebula. I wonder if this is a couple of episodes that is only possible in the digital starship era of Star Trek. Like, could they have ever practically modeled this ship damage over the last couple episodes? No, I don't think so. I think that, and I think that the way this episode goes is almost entirely a product of the digital starship era. Yeah, I think so too. We actually get to see inside the ship where some of this pink smoke has penetrated the hall and... You hear this, like, as soon as you board a federation starship, if pink smoke enters the cabin, you put the mask on yourself and then ends in Kim.

In that order. If you are traveling with an excuse. Yeah. If you have a lap, Ensign Kim, came in arms. Yeah, I mean, and try to save yourself before you save Ensign Kim's dong. Right. I mean, it try to save yourself before you save Genshin Kim's dong. Right.

I mean, it doesn't seem like Janeway is that interested in saving herself. She is almost single-minded in her interest in self-sacrifice, and this is the scene that kind of sets that tone. Really continues a tone from the last episode. I want you off your feet for the next 48 hours. Impossible. I've got too much work to do. She's marching around her beguarded bridge with the EMH following behind her.

And he is really pissed about how many liberties she's taking with her own safety. If Ensign Kim made a musical instrument that was like a cranky old instrument that like the arcade fire would use, but made it out of stuff he found on the bridge. Do you think he'd call that a herdy-gurder? Mm. Yes, I think probably.

Okay. I mean, I think any Star Trek character could do that. I don't know why it has to be in some Kim specifically. Well, I mean, he's there. Yeah. And he's not blind. I think there's two qualities of one of the last remaining seven crew people on this ship. Did the EMH ordering the captain to stand down and not be in command anymore, enter your head as a thing that he might suggest in this scene, because she is like ordering him

to treat her for her bad lungs, and he's like, you need to stop, you need to take a break. Dr. Zorders. Captain Zorders, triaxen, now. She didn't wanna look weak in front of Kim, so she took the full head of the pink cloud, like right into the lungs. Yeah.

And she took her mask off, she took a big, long, full of pink cloud and said the scorpion is ready. Yeah. Intimidating him. As Rick Ross would put it, it burned her chest. And she's walking around the bridge, just hacking up. And that's because her lungs bridge, just hacking up.

And that's because her lungs have been burnt. Yeah, the alveoli are singed. Yeah. The ship isn't really bad shape. One Nasell is all the way dead. The other is offline. They can't really move. They can't really do anything. And the situation is really dire

and that's how we get into theme. I love how you hear it and you love how you see it because in this pan around the bridge, I mean, the passage of time as told by a visual is so apparent here, like by the time we get to the view screen, it seems as though there's some sort of like welded together shield outside of the view screen, which is broken and there is like just open space.

Yeah, it's bad. Yeah. Don't like that. When we come back from the title sequence, Chicoete is in jail on the time-weapon ship. His mustache has really come in and is nice and full when they open the door on this jail cell. I don't think they anticipated this reaction because like you can tell what the show is going for. Passage of time through facial hair. Right. It's a technique is oldest film itself. Like train coming into station. It's in that film. Yes. You see the train conductor. You see his beard growing up there But when your actor looks this good with facial hair

You don't get what the episodes trying to make you feel I look at Chico Te here and I'm like, God dammit looks awesome Yeah, he is not suffering at all But that's not what the episodes trying to make us feel. Like this is supposed to look like suffering. You've had us in isolation for two months. We've been scanned, poked, and prodded. The episode threw me for such a loop because the next scene he comes in like clean shaving and I was like yelling at the TV screen. Give it back to Stash! No! Like, the episodes like look at how this man has been abused. Muscat.

But the abuse happened between the cell and the dinner scene when they had to forcibly shave him. Yeah, very sad. Yeah. You hate to see it. He is led into Anorax's dining room where Anorax is like stroking the triangle shaped box with his wife's hair in it. Yeah. It's a in it. Yeah. It's a hair doll. Yeah, it's gross, right?

There's a big feasts laid out in front of them. They're talking about how entranesigent Paris is. Yeah, this is a tough scene because all Interax wants to do is talk shit about Chico Tay's buddy. And that puts Chico Tay in an awkward spot. It's not a great look for anorax. But Paris shows up. And in another classic, like,

this is what they're going for and it isn't what they get, kind of situation, you can't put Paris in a deep V and not expect. Yeah. Some real power moves. Yeah. And Paris just looks fucking great in this thing. I mean these guys They've been in isolation for two months and suddenly they just look fan fucking tastic

Yeah, like they look like they've been on vacation for two months. Yeah, they're looking strong and good Yeah, and they're invited to eat at this buffet that the Kurtwood Smith character has put together Yeah, and this is another scene like on paper. I feel like it's fine it to eat at this buffet that the Kurtwood Smith character has put together. Yeah. And this is another scene, like on paper, I feel like it's fine. This is a mustache twirling asshole, you know, monologuing his, you know, like in the way that a lot of bad guys do you lay the heavy is the head that wears the bad guy crown.ie is the head that has the weird like lizard circles on each temple. But Kurt Wood Smith is so good at giving this thing his credibility.

His character, the Kurt Wood Smith credibility and the confidence that you have in an actor like him being able to sell all of what he's saying, is so apparent because the camera is just locked on him and it stays on him and it doesn't move. And when you have an actor this good, you can do that. It makes you look great as a director. You don't need to get the like, Chico Tay React to tell the audience what emotion to be experiencing at this moment.

He is spectacular in this scene and in a few others this episode, he's just so good. I was thinking a lot about how Kurt Woodsmith has such a career of playing unlikable assholes. You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy. I do. Do you? But that I like seeing him every time I see him

and I feel like he has that like, unlikable asshole typecasting where I would still like go up to him in an airport and say I'm a big fan of his work, you know. I would never expect that to be like a part of his real life character, you know. He's definitely on Mount Character Actor. Totally. And like, sadly, one's definitely on Mount Character Actor. Totally.

And like, sadly, one of the surviving Mount Character Actors that we have right now. Totally. He's great. Super charismatic. And he, like, part of the pitch is like, man, if you guys only knew how much you messed my program up being on your ship that's not in the part of the galaxy it's supposed to be in, like all of these Variables I try to account for how could anybody account for you? It's nuts. Yeah

Yeah, like the grudging respect of a bad guy saying like you almost had me there in the first half I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I love this too. He is really big-dicking this extinction buffet that he's laid out for everyone. Like, in that dramatic flourish of waiting until Paris has something in his mouth before going, you know that's the last one. That is the last dim sum that will ever be made of that kind. That's... That is the last dim sum that will ever be made of that kind. That is so far.

It's like they're eating tombstones. Yeah. You didn't even ask what they wanted on them. It's true. Pepperonian cheese. Yeah, once the cart goes by, it just disappears forever. Yeah. It's sad.

But he's actually got a really nice guy pitch here. He's like, hey, so I'm gonna spare voyage. I'll let you guys go. You're non-combatants. You never wanted this. So I'm gonna hit your ship with my weapon and it'll take it out of this timeline and Probably you'll just go home. It's professional courtesy. Like I'm trying to get home. You're trying to get home We're both hobos. We're all hobos. All of this is being said at the table and all I'm thinking about is, so it interacts like pulling in the orbit of these planets and then first beaming a bunch of food on board.

And then time shooting them out of existence is that what we're not seeing? Because that is an amazing order to give, Obrist, like, hey, Obrist. Find out whatever like the four star restaurant is on this planet, beam some stuff up. Yeah, find the best restaurant and beam their walk-in cooler into our walk-in cooler.

And then we'll hit the big button. I wanted to know all about how this food was being stored and preserved. Yeah, it's a question that I wondered about too. Like taffers in the SUV outside of the time ship, watching anorex beam the food into the ship and he's like, you know what, you can steal the menu items from another restaurant and you can't steal the vibe of the place.

The concept. Your time ship has a great location, but it's totally badly lit. Nobody can see it from the highway. When your bar and grill exists out of time, how do you expect anyone to find it? I mean, you claim that your restaurant is outside of space in time, but the bathroom sure isn't. Yeah. The pitch is basically like, you tell me where Voyager is, your restaurant is outside of space and time, but the bathroom sure isn't.

The pitch is basically like, you tell me where Voyager is, I'm going to reset Voyager to an ideal version of its own time period. And Tom Paris is like, no deal asshole. I can tell a ruse when I see one and she co-tays like, wait a second, let's hear him out. Paris's point is well taken. Like, how can they trust him? It seems insane to do that, but Anirax makes the case that it's not about trust. It's about them both needing the same things. I sort of wondered in this moment

if Chico Te and Paris were nonverbaly communicating. Like they had decided who was gonna play bad cop and who was gonna play bad cop and who was gonna play good cop Because it does sort of feel like Paris Bad cops here, but then I was like wait, so if Jacob is the good cop. He's the pro genocide cop Fuck like right. I mean, I guess that's as good as you can get as a cop, but I Always said if Mashiope was the good care You should have seen Rashadan with the hoosnack.

He made me look like a peach. I actually got into some role playing with Roshan wearing. I would wear the police officer's uniform. It was Velcro to be clear. She would also wear a police uniform. The mere shade of me wearing a badge would not only flared her basement, but every basement in the quadrant. Delta Round-Four was a very slippery planet that day.

I don't know Ben, I would agree with that hypothesis, except that this is a bad Chico-tey episode. Yeah, throughout. I was wrong to think it, but I thought it because I was like, Chico-tey, you just heard the thing about all the civilizations. How are you going along with this? If he is playing a weird game, it's that kind of like get in good with Anorax. Cause Anorax is like, look, Jakote,

I like the cut of your time, Jib. Yeah. You're someone who really understands the nuances of being a time lord in a way that few people do. I mean, there's one person that probably understands it outside of this room, but. I'm a traveler of all of space and time.

Way too annoying to invite to this dinner. Ha ha ha. Back on Voyager, there's a meal of a different kind happening, right? The final seven, sit at a table in the mess hall where they are enjoying a kind of coffee that you couldn't even consider coffee really, because it's like crushed up MREs,

put in a coffee filter with a boiling water poured over the tap. It's a nauseous pour over. Yeah. I call it the elixir of endurance. Ensign Kim seems to like it. Not bad at all. Maybe he is the only one. Ensign Kim eats ass, though.

Something about it reminds me of being in the world. Get out, Harry. Who are you? Harry Kim. Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you? They come as come as a pair. Who are you? Harry Kim. Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you? They come as come as a pair.

Who are you? Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim. And you're mocked. Very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim.

Chummy. Chummy. And you're mocked. Very proud. Harry Kim. Who are you? Harry Kim. Of course he does.

So that makes sense for him. Janeway drinks vegetable broth for fun. Right. So should it taste good to her? Is the question I had in my head. God, it does not. I like two vux take the best here though. His face and the micro expressions it goes through after consuming this.

I, I mean, feel. There's a lot going on here. Yeah. He's suffering greatly. All of his other senses are enhanced because he's Yeah, yeah, I also just like the blunt it is offensive seven of nine dunk on it. This fucking talks you're bad. I like that naming it the elixir of endurance can mean a couple of things, like a thing that you're meant to endure being primarily the definition. But staying also has a guest part in this episode and he's like elixir of endurance, you say. Hmm. Yeah, exactly. Coffee's not coffee, coffee is sex.

What a trick. Coffee, drink, do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. It's day 161 and they're just in bad, bad shape. They're, you know, everything is a fucking mess on the ship. But I really just like trying to patch the ship together, but being stuck in this nebula does not seem to be helping.

Janeway wants to get out of the nebula. We've got to get back into open space. Seven does not totally think that that's a great idea, and is also willing to just give voice to that. Janeway kind of puts this in a aspirational way, right? Like open space, guys. Yeah. It's why we're in Star Trek to just be out there. No one wants to live in this nebular forever.

I mean, they've been in there for months, and she's like, we need to go find, like, make some friends, take on anirax for real. It's fucking crazy. They've been in there for months and no one has found time to like push a broom around. No, no, they've got much bigger frisk to fry than dirt on the floor at them. Yeah, that's true. So Janeway is like, fine.

We're leaving tomorrow morning and no one can tuck me out of it. Hahaha. Later on, two valkets seven are walking through the hallway, and two-vac is like, hey, so you know, when the captain says a bad idea, and you just say why you disagree with it without like reading the room,

that's not great in a chain of command environment. Yeah, we don't do that. I like this two-vac seven relationship, though, like that they are forced together in this way for this kind of exposition. They're a fun pair. Yeah, they're fun pair, and they kind of think in similar terms,

like they're extremely procedural in their thought patterns. So it's a scene that has that on the one hand, but then this incredibly intimate friendliness between them on the other hand, because as they're walking seven is reaching up and moving dangling cable bundles out of the way so that two vac doesn't walk into them.

So there's the dialogue is all about this like trying to understand an illogical situation through logic. Right. But the visual of the scene is this very like sweet and tender thing that is happening between them. This is such an interesting two-wheeled episode because he's never not himself, even at his most desperate. And you could almost forgive that if he were to break down a little bit. He's an awful shape. Yeah.

He's torn up. Yeah. One of the reasons I realized in this episode that I hate this time-weapon ship, Adam, it looks just like Babylon 5. Yeah. We get like a beauty shot of it in the next scene. It's Babylon, it looks exactly like Babylon 5. They just stole the design of Ben5. Five. The year is 2258. The name of the place is... If I were flippin' through the channels and I saw this establishing shot, I'd keep flippin'. Yeah.

I don't want to watch this show. Yeah. Give me out of here. Not interested. Get Bart, block master, off my TV. I don't need to see it. Ha ha ha ha. A board the ship. Chic Te has sort of teamed up with

Anorax and is trying to work the problem from Anorax's perspective. And he's like, got it. Rogue comment. There was a rogue comment that Voyager adjusted its course to avoid. If we go hit that with the time weapon, it will take that comment out of the equation of all history and Voyager will never have had to adjust course. We never would have entered Granham space. We would never have met you, man. Let's just go get that comment. Yeah. And anorax is like, great idea.

Hit the button, simulate it, see what happens. Anorax is like, not so fast. Obrist, beam aboard several dozen ice cubes from that comic to use for cocktails later. Extinct ice cubes, I feel like are gonna really add a lot to the buffet that I'm trying to enjoy in the next room. Yeah, I mean, say what you want about Anirax's

genocidal mania, he is a Bon Vivont. He enjoys the finer things in life. He's not gonna destroyidal mania. He is a bon vivant. He enjoys the finer things in life. He's not going to destroy everything about a culture. You know what's weird is like how definitionally different aniraxic is given his interest in consumption. He likes eating. He does. Yeah.

Uh, he's not anorex. He's anorex. Exactly. Yeah. I guess anorex would be like, if you don't like, $1,000 bills, right? Mm.

Yeah. God, this is the sort of drunken wordplay that just really floods the FOT's basements. Yeah, just because this people do turn their, their podcasts off. Hey, don't let your fingers slip. Yeah, of the button. Which button at them?

And she goes to his like, all right, hits the buttons and oops. It's a fucking disaster. Mass extinction event. Yeah. To coach a through erasing this one comment, would have erased 8,000 civilizations. He probably took out anorex's body count in one go. Anorex does that thing like after a T ball game, when his kid kind of like has the opportunity

to hit in the winning run and doesn't. Kind of gets down on one knee with to co-, to say, look, but everyone's done it. Everyone's destroyed a thing in the universe and realized the consequences of that. Yeah. Take me, for instance, we used to be at war with the Realnar. And then I went and aimed this heavy weapon at the Realnar.

Thought we were going to win the war, it was great. But turns out the Realnar had an antibody that our people needed to survive a plague. It killed millions of people. Ah, so sad. Right, so everyone makes mistakes to code David. Point is you just need to dust yourself off and just keep genocide-ing.

Genocide your way out of it. Genocide your way through it. If you've genocided yourself into a hole, just keep genociding until you come out the other side. That's good advice. Lition to him. I don't know if Kevin Oxbridge could get on this guy's level because Kevin Oxbridge stopped at one, you know.

Yeah, he was one and done. I didn't serve my Kevin Oxbridge could get on this guy's level because Kevin Oxbridge stopped at one, you know. Yeah, he was one and done. I didn't serve my preveness through genocide, but I also didn't keep doing it to try to try and find my reward as a puzzle. If Anirax could, he would totally Roshan Oxbridge, his lady. Yeah, he would, but he can't. She's in that triangle. Yeah,ridge, his lady. Yeah, he would, but he can't. She's in that triangle. Yeah, all he has is hair.

Ethan, what is this? Is this a hair doll? I was thinking maybe shoot that beam at a mirror, man. Because it seems like the man in the mirror. I'm hitting him with my time beam. Who? When you wanna erase another race, just looking at me and shoot the beam. Na na na na na na na na na na. It's really the flourishes that make that work.

Not so much the lyrics. It's everything around the lyrics. Yeah, I didn't delay recording by two hours so that I could write something. Yeah. Yeah. Smart move. I thought of it at the moment Adam. I thought of it and I went with it.

Fuck you. It was great. Alright. I liked it. Why don't you believe me? Because you're being a jerk about it. No, I'm not. You're being a jerk!

Not you too. I'm telling you I feel away and you don't believe me. No one believes me. Objection noted. We'll do this without you. Do it. Do it. Objection noted.

We'll do this without you. Do it. Do it. Do it. Objection noted. We'll do this without you. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Stay 180. A million little rocks come flying at the Voyager. They got out of the nebula and into the path of a bunch of rocks.

Yeah. This sucks. This is bad. Ordinarily, the ship has defenses for a little rocks. Yeah. It's one of the easiest things to defend against if you're a Federation starship, not this time. Captain, with the flictor down,

those micro-media-roids are beginning to erode the hole. Emergency power to the deflector. Non-available. They gotta get to deflector control. Janeways, on the case, She leaves everybody else on the bridge. I'll take care of this. Feels like a Star Trek generations call back here. This is the Kirk moment.

It really is. And instead of getting nexus, Janeway gets barbecued for her trouble. Tell the doctor on the coming back with severe burns. Captain, do it. She knows she's gonna get barbecued. You gotta use the back of your hand on the door, right? Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I realized that the door was hot. Yeah. This is a bad scene. She picks up a piece of paneling and uses it as a Captain America shield before running in there. And she knows too. She knows she's gonna be fucked up. I like how she psychs herself up for this.

Yeah. And Inji goes and she gets it turned on, but the camera pans through the smokey, flamie room, and we see a Janeway that stayed at her post. Yeah. It really turned her into burger. Yeah. Not a great look.

And we see, you know, a similarly fucked up exterior of the ship, also looking really bad, really chewed up. And then the dock, you know, working on Janeway. What's my condition? You suffered third degree burns to approximately 60% of your body. The dermal regenerator got hit by one of those micro-medias, so he's not able to fix the scars, but she's going to survive.

Right. I was kind of expecting the scars to be way worse based on what she looked like when she was in that room Well, you can't see under the uniform Ben. There's a lot of percentage of body covered with clothing. Uh-huh. Were you able to save my nipples, Dr? I was famous in the Academy for my butt. It's my butt okay. I mean, this is one of those scenes where the doc is like, look, I could partially fix

your scars, but those are just the mental ones. What I can't fix are the scars in here. Any points to his own heart. He makes himself slightly non-corporeal and points inside her body at her heart. Right, and he's like, look, Cap, I'm gonna need you to stay here a while for those injuries, the mental ones. And this suggestion does not go well for the doctor

because Janeway Pivots right into, well, maybe I will just shut you down. Yeah, pretty savage. Like the argument over whether she is fit for command seems pretty much like it's over before it starts. It seems pretty obvious that she is not. She has metaphorically destroyed all her little ships. Right.

And he is not a human doctor. So he is like, unslightly shaky footing trying to invoke regulations that give him the authority to end her command. And he kind of needs to like feel her out on whether she's actually going to kill him if he does it. Right. Because while he's in the right, it's kind of a toothless gesture because there's no one there's no one to enforce it Yeah, you better grab a phaser Because before I give up command you'll have to shoot me. So it's tough. He invokes it and she calls his bluff and

She's like, hey, like put it in your log. I eat quartz marshal for breakfast and we'll deal with it when we get home man and Also fix my nipples. I can, and I will. A few weeks later, day 207. Man. Hey, did it bug you that this wasn't an entire year when all was said and done? Furious. Absolutely furious.

How dare they call this the year of hell? Two thirds of a year of hell. Yeah, anyone could do that. I could do time like that with my eyes closed. You know what? Take off my nipples right now. Check in with me next January. I'm not gonna need them until then. Yeah, I'll be fine. Toughened yet, Neppel is dead in that. Janeway and Neelix are taking inventory of the damage on a deck and they find their way into Chicoete's quarters. And for some reason, her tricorder is set to find pocket watch. Yeah, it's like, it like beeps louder and louder and louder until she finds the gift that he tried to give her in the last episode scandus deck for guilt

I tell you what Ben if I had to try quarter set for guilt the strongest signal will be coming from me Yeah, yeah, I would challenge you To turn that on when I'm also in the room. Yeah. Let's see who it makes a louder noise next to How about Janeway in the action tank top. Yeah, she looks fucking awesome. She's wearing the jail pipes at the end of first contact look Yeah, yeah, and she adds the pocket watch to it. Could be her tricorder has found some feelings for a certain tub building first officer, right? Mm. No.

She could also could have been scanning for that. He didn't replicate a tub in the fire orders and leave that in his quarters. Now, he's got a stick you could hang a bin to a no. Mm. Got to get him back on the scene. We do. She hangs the watch from a belt loop

where it's so pendulous, like, that it would be sure to slap her in the ass and the vages she walks, right? Like, this is an uncomfortable watch hanging maneuver. Well, I guess we know a couple of places where she didn't have third-degree burns. We can start using process of elimination, Adam. Sounds great. This doesn't hurt me at all. I'm fine. It's actually quite pleasant. There's coffee in

that breast-take-ift. On the time ship, Paris is kicking ob obriss ass in some kind of board game. Right. The genociders of Catan, maybe. Me and Roshan play that over the time. We love it. The worst part is familiarizing yourself with all the rules. European resource management games. Just love them. I'm a big fan of the

Pirate Victory as you strategy. This is kind of a con by Paris. Paris is trying to get in with Obrist. Yeah, he's like that guy in every prison camp movie about World War II that is like the dude that can get stuff by buttering up the guards. And he's really starting to kind of understand Oberst's deal. And Oberst tells a story about, like, yeah, you used to like, you know, celebrate my brother's birthday whenever it came around, but I realized he died like hundreds of years ago, and it felt a little sad and pathetic after a certain point. When you're on a time ship, all holidays feel hollow, right?

Wow, that's why they probably call them that. Mm. Yeah. I feel like Paris really has a lot in common with Obrist. Obrist fucking hates his job. Yeah. That was Paris not too long ago. Yeah, Paris has been there.

Yeah. He's done that. Yeah. He finds Chicago and he's like, dude, great news. I've got this Obrist guy eating out of my hand. We've got a plan, man. We can take out the time crystal that runs the ship.

And once that happens, like the ship is in real space time, and it's fucking weak. Like any normal weapon can totally jack this ship up. If that happens, like the ship is in real space time, and it's fucking weak. Like any normal weapon can totally jack this ship up. I gotta tell you, the scene is a low-key, awful look for anirax. Because who is leaving Paris and Chicoeté alone to just conspire like this? I mean, he may be a man out of time, but he's not very smart. Yeah, I wonder if it's just that he's like been doing this for

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Did you feel like these roles could or should have been reversed? Because how is Chicoete of all people not down with mutiny? Like you'd think that Chicoete as make-weez would be riding for this and Paris would be the company man argument, but it's not. I mean, I think Chicoete's argument is like we might be able to end this and use the time weapon one last time to like solve his problem and solve our problem. And Chico Dei is fucked up in this scene, but I think that he thinks his way is the easier and better way out, but yeah, it's fucked up.

Like, anorex is an enlightened man. The timing of this couldn't be better, because he's like in the middle of threatening Paris at the end of this, like, well, we can go back to make-wease rules if you want. Ticot is like I punch people in the face for dinner. Yeah, but the next scene is a well-timed genocide. Like, he thought he had like kind of talked anorax out of the genociding things to solve his problems mindset. Yeah. And was like,

let's think about like asteroids and comets and shit that nobody's going to miss. Right. And point the weapon at that. And interact is like no dog. This is what we do here. We genocide. When we come up with a cool idea for a genocide, we do it.

As a degenerate gambler, I definitely saw some of that in anirax here. Like he's got a hunch. He thinks he can beat the machine or whatever, and he starts making bets. When time offers you an opportunity, bets, bets, bets. And he also believes like that kind of gambler superstition, like the world is out to get me,

like time is mad at me personally. You know? Yeah, I definitely feel that. Like when he busts out and it doesn't go the way he wants it to. I know, I know. It feels like cosmic to him. Yep. Yep.

That's how it feels. It's silly. I mean, this is done so casually. And I think that's part of the point, right? Yeah. And it acts as like, I'm following a hunch. We're just gonna do this thing and see what happens. And Paris is like,

whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Am I making any sense here? Androx is like not on the bridge, man. And like the Rosadine Chicoetase face. Like this is fucked up. Did you not see what just happened on the bridge?

Yeah. And Chicoetase, like you're not on my time level, man. Like you don't see things the way I do. Me and Anorax, we're like this. We're like two fingers crossed with a bunch of hair wrapped around it. Yeah. We're like hairy fingers. We're hairy fingers with a galaxy brain.

And we just see time for what it really is. This kind of moves Chicoate's needle though, because Cote confronts anorax. It's like I was just trying to talk Paris out of this whole mutiny thing, man. And now you do this. You make me look like a fucking asshole. Right. Right. Taffers brought in the best negotiator in the quadrant to talk to Paris. You don't even train your staff.

You don't even train your staff. Chicoote is a real every species matters type and anorax thinks no species matter. That's kind of a wild tension to experience. Because everything anorax is doing is about getting Keanu Prime colony back on the on the board. Like the bumper sticker on Chico Tei's car has like a bunch of weird colored stripes where the flag stripes would be. Right. And Interax's sticker is like a blank sticker. Yeah.

You wouldn't even know a sticker's on his car. Why did you even take the resale value of your car down if it's just an empty sticker? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, what it should be is like a hair sticker. Yeah. I mean, say what you want about the tenants of Jicote's religion, at least it's an ethos.

Jicote knows the score though. He's like, if I were to say something like, Keanu Prime, that mean anything to you? And Annerax is like, how do you know that? And Chico Tay is like, well, you've given me in Paris full run of your ship. Like we can do anything here for some reason. We've looked through your computers,

we've found all the things. And I know that that's like the thing that you're really trying to get back. And I think it's strange that you have a hair doll on your desk. I'm just going to say it. The hair doll is weird. I don't like it. I didn't make that.

It fell out of your hair that way, and I want it back. It fell out of my hair this way. Give me a bag. I want it back. And the way you caress the triangle, yeah. That's weird. This is all I have left of her. So did...

Here's the thing, in order to get the hair doll, Anirax would have to understand the potential of his weapon. Like, he would have had to get the lock of hair before being captain of this ship, right? Like, so many meals of food that he steals before cultures that he genocides. Yeah. He has to steal the hair and then go on the mission

and then he would have had to realize that he killed his wife in the process. He got aboard the ship. He said, be me a lock of hair into this triangle and then we're gonna to go fly away. And that beam is much of my wife's hair into the walkin cooler as you can. We're gonna kill that species and we'll come back and see if she's okay. Taffer is inspected the walkin cooler, the time ship, and he is not happy with the amount of hair

in the walk-in. Even in Specter walked in today, you'd be shut down! I'm your diserver! This is disgusting! No one wants to see this! Shut this kitchen down! No one eats here! You're gonna kill somebody! I thought immediately that this Kiana Prime issue

was a perfect wedge that you could drive between anorax and his crew, because they may be bought in for the like make our species, the all-powerful people in this part of space mission. For sure they don't really give a shit about anorax as fucking wife, right? No, no one does. That's what's so insane. Yeah. This is not a great scene for AirRax

because he's like, look, I'm not only a man with a hair doll, but I also feel like time has moods and feelings. So if you can't get on my level, I don't know, I don't know, man. Maybe you're not as into this whole genocide thing as I thought you were. I mean, yeah. And if you're not, like, maybe you should go. Yeah.

Yeah, you're really harshing my pose here, man. So Chico Te has finally kind of let the scales fall from his eyes, and Tom Perris is able to rope him into the start of mutiny and blow up the time core plan. But the blowing up the time core thing is a one shot deal because it's impossible to destroy a temporal core on a starship unauthorized. As bad of a Chico Tay episode as this is, this is a really great Paris episode, I think. He's got the power, Vee-goin'. Yeah. He's got great ideas.

He's proven right, I feel like. Totally. When all is said and done. And he's won the argument, I feel like, with Chico-te. And he's like laid all the groundwork in the background. Like he got Obris to give him a radio. And what the fuck is Chico-te doing? He's just palin' around with Anorax?

Yeah. Chico-te, you pick bad friends, man. You fucked up, Chico-te. But... But you're in the anorax in CESCA. You've got a terrible assessment of people. Oh, hey, guess what, Chico-te? Anorax is pregnant, and guess who the father is.

Jesus, Chico-te, keep it in your fucking pants. I've still got a lot to learn. So it's day 226. The Voyager has succeeded in convincing some aliens to help them out. I don't know how they did that when they pulled up in a bucket. You have got, this is the moment that strains the most credulity here is by not seeing the scene where Jane Ways like you're just going to have to believe that we've got a chance here.

Come fight a war with me. I'll be an ally. I will fight by your side. Yeah. In my just as good spaceship. Yeah. This is not a good look. It's the Nihidrin and the Moassi.

Yeah. And they're down. They're down for the cause. They're down for the cause. We never see a Nihydrin. We never see a Moassi. No. The crew kind of splits up.

Some people go to Moassi ships. Some people go to Nihydrin ships. The crew's like, we don't even know what they look like. Like, are you sure? Are you sure we can just beam over there? Yeah, what if they don't breathe the same stuff as us? We ask before we do this.

Maybe all they breathe is pink nebula gas. Ha ha ha. Do I need to wear a mask for this? Kim's like, yeah, like I wanna wait and have somebody else beam over first, just in case there's nebula gas over there. What do you make of us never, like they made a big deal about seeing

like Janeway shattered T cup. Why don't you show us that clarinet? In what condition is the clarinet? In Ensen Kim's quarters, is it playable? Yeah, there would have been a nice like, elijayic moment before Kim goes away on the mission. Like, you know, like a, there's kind of an old naval tradition of a captain walking the

deck of the ship on the eve of battle. Sure is. There's an old naval tradition of the Enten going to his quarters and playing his bent and half clarinet. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, he played that clarinet one last time, Enten Kim. And you leave it behind. Go hang out with the Nihydron.

I used to live in North Brooklyn, and one of my favorite things is when somebody would open up a Nihydron on the street in the summer and the kids would play in it. Such a classic move. Yeah. Yes and yes, we know it's more of the U.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S So they leave Janeway to fly voyage or solo. Like that's how the split up works. Yeah.

So he's talking about it in terms of going down with the ship. Yeah, there's no covering this up. She's pretty transparent about the idea of auguring the ship in at some point. You can see it on a few of their faces that they're going to speak up in protest, but the doc is right behind her and he does the finger across the throat,

like just let her go, man. Kim is like, I should take the clarinet as what you're saying, because chances that the hydrant could replicate that, probably not good, right? She's like, yes, and take this pad that I got from Tom Paris' quarters. It's labeled tax documents.

He sent it he'd wanted it if I ever died. Do you have any idea how valuable the last porn in the quadrant is? It's all fucking aliens. It's the nuclear porn suitcase. Guard this with your life. This is the only thing that's kept crew morale going as long as that's what. You actually shouldn't touch it with your bare hands. Here, take these tongs. Oh man. It's the spot gloves. Yeah.

So the plan is this, they're going to attack. They're attacking the time ship. The reason they feel emboldened to do this is that they got a message from Paris from the time ship orchestrating this whole thing. They're going to shut down the temporal core. The star fleet will attack. It's going to be beautiful. Yeah.

Janeway talks about the Voyager, like it's a classic Camaro and two Voc is like, I do not understand car culture. This is just a place where we worked. I have no emotional connection to this office building. Yeah. She gives them a goodbye hug that was really sweet. I mean, like it's, it was sweet of her. It doesn't mean anything to him.

I don't know, man, this moment really touched me. Like people saying goodbye in the ways that make sense for them. It was meaningful that Tuvac actually, like, did the embrace part. Yeah, I mean, he's stiff as a board, but he does hug back. I mean, there's definitely some daylight

between those groins. Yeah, the middle school teacher came through with the flashlight and made sure. One of my favorite shots of this episode, like in an episode that had a lot of really good shots was when Tuvac leaves and we stay on Janeway and that one unbroken single that like follows her around the horseshoe into the chair. Yeah. It was a nice moment because like

in an episode with so much action to just have a moment to breathe and be in a moment, I think was important. I thought it was great. And this was that moment. Dave, 257. Not quite a year still, huh? Still well shy of shy of a year hey are you well shy of how many shots do you think was in your picture by the by how many shots a shot is an ounce and a half well not in my house it's two but I'm saying like how how drunk are you feeling I'm about to polish off I just did my last refill basically. I still see, there's sidecar there. All right, let's get this thing going here. I'm gonna simultaneously do this.

So Adam is drinking from the straw while pouring from the pitcher into the glass so that he can pour out the last of the pitcher while not overflowing his glass. I did it. Wow. That was a great move. Very impressive.

Yeah, I do need to do a refill. I'll show you my picture. Wow, look at that. I've had quite a lot. It's your body, who am I to judge? Do we have different TNG teaky glasses? We have different ones. I have a red and a brown.

Mine is a TOS teaky glass. It's Kirk. How about that? Which Kirk, Pine Kirk or Shat Kirk? I think it's Shat Kirk, but it's stylized enough that I suppose you can make the case for either. This is fun. I'm having fun. Fun to do bad things.

My friend Miriam got me this. She works at the Skirmals Center where they had the big Trek exhibit. And she saved me one. How nice. Yes. So I would say I put 12 ounces of alcohol in this. God, if I put one. I think your drink is stronger because while I had over-proof bourbon, like the house shot in my household is two ounces. And even though the recipe called for 1.5s, that was poor in twos. Yeah. So I did two four times. But how over-proof is it?

Because everything I did was 80 proof. The best I could, I mean, is what is the qualification for over-proof? Because the bourbon I chose was a hundred. Oh, so that means you're... Because I don't have anything like specifically overproof, I just chose the highest test bourbon that I got. Yeah, but that's 25% more alcohol per ounce than 80 proof. Oh, and I also poured 25% more total alcohol by volume in here.

Yeah, so I mean, somebody can make a spreadsheet and figure this out, but. You know, Wendy would be great at this. Oh, yeah. She's great at spreadsheets. This is one of the things that we discovered after we hired her was like, Hey, Wendy, can you make a spreadsheet

for how I'm destroying my life? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Yeah, and just the rate of that make that spreadsheet and then just share it publicly like make one of those Google sheets where you can anybody has the link can look at it to columns give us two one for me and one for Ben. How many ounces did you have eight so you had eight total ounces of overproof eight ounces of overproof. Yeah yeah. Wait, so I don't wanna do the math, but I think we're probably really close. No one can do the math. It's impossible. Look, it's not about math. It's how you feel. And I feel great.

That's good as I felt in a long time. I'm glad you feel great, man. That's why we came here to do this. Yeah, sometimes you just get one for a drunk. You just aim your ship right right at the time ship. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. It's day 250. Here's it so weird. Like the show is like, Hey, there's a passage of time here. But Janeway sits down in a chair. And then a month later, they 31 days ago. And she's in the same chair. She hasn't moved.

Yeah. That was a long time. She was just sitting there. They should have to peel her off of that thing. I mean, like we've talked about how like they need all of the crew on Voyager to keep their ship going. And the ship is fucked up now. Yeah. What was she doing the entire time?

Do you think maybe? Sometimes I could come over to the Nihidrin or Moassi ship and just take a shower or whatever. Because that's the thing, right? Like, can you use the transporter system on their ship to beam the poops out of me? Because our transporter chief isn't an escape pod, somewhere deep in a crenim space.

The motor complex goes deep with Janeway because she could have some comfort in these 31 days. It does not appear as though that's happened. So the mechanics of this fight are that everybody has been given the technology of these temporal shields that the Voyager figured out that saved them from the time weapon the first time. So when they go to attack,

interacts as ship, interacts as like, who gives a shit? Like we're getting attacked. We're outside of space at the time. Like, it doesn't matter. Not a big deal. And then it is communicated to him that these people have temporal shielding.

And I felt like Chico Tei kind of fucked up again here. This is such an awful Chico Tei episode. Because he's like, Interacts, like, Janeway wouldn't be attacking you unless she knew she could hurt you. Yeah. That's just like, not how she rolls. Like, Janeway wouldn't be attacking you unless she knew she could hurt you. Yeah. That's just like, not how she rolls. Like, don't tell him that. Shut the fuck up, Chico-te.

I feel like this is very crimson tidy here too, because Oberst is Webs, and he's like, serotoniously typing stuff at a station. Yeah. Like, you gotta have Webs. Webs is the key. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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they were kind of human shields, weren't they? Wow. Yeah. They don't even get the dignity of an on-screen moment. Yeah, they've just gone. They're gone from time. Oh, you know what? I bet we know who was on those ships, too, because when Janeway divvied up the remaining crew, I wasn't thinking about who was over there, but they were split between those two ships. Yeah. Is there still another Nihidron ship? Maybe they're on that other one?

I guess it doesn't matter, right? I can't tell the difference between a Nihidron and a Moasi. Whoa. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I look, I feel like I'm in a safe space.

I'm with a friend of DeSoto, I could admit that. I think the greatest Gen Facebook group is going to take great umbrage with this position that you've bravely struck out. Hey, you know what? I can't tell the difference. Wow. And furthermore, I hate both of them. God damn

The attack does not go super well and it turns out when super well. And it turns out when anirangs converts over to conventional weapons to fight back, the conventional weapons are also super powerful. Yeah. I mean against a Voyager that fucking suck shit right now. Yeah. Janeway is like looking out a force field directly into space. Yeah. I don't know what kind of ship hits the Voyager, but they get hit real bad. I love this sequence. Yeah. Like this midair collision. Yeah. Is so rugged. Another thing that is like very much a couldn't have done it in the pre digital era. In the same way that like cutting yourself is less painful than like if you're using a rasp grader and you grate yourself in a way that like doesn't break the skin.

That's what happens to voyage your hair. It's graded by this by this other ship and it's so painful looking. It only breaks the skin in one place. There's a hole on the bridge. And their weapons are knocked out. All of the ships that went to attack the time ship eventually are out of commission and can't attack and the captain orders everybody to drop their temporal shields and she says the craziest line of this two part episode.

If that ship is destroyed all of history might be restored. Biggest if in the history of ifs. I'm almost positive. My nipples will come back. If I crash the Voyager into the time ship. Yeah, her conviction is that if they undo that ship, all of the damage it's done, will also be undone. Yeah, something time paradox. But also they're committed here. Like they're done for anyway. Yeah. What else could she do? True. It's a hunch that I feel like has a lot of merit. Like if you're going to gamble, I think this is a reasonable

gamble, given their position. Catherine Janeway was the captain of a Federation starship for several years. 257 days. She lost both of her nipples and destroyed her ship crashing into another time ship. I dare you to do better. I dare you to do better. I dare you to do better.

I dare you to do better. I dare you to do better. This episode's gonna alienate a lot of people. If your butt survives, though, because hers did. Hey, we're having a lot of laughs about Janeway here. This is a great Janeway episode. I fucking ride for her so hard. Her bad assness throughout and up to this moment, I am totally into fuck yeah, like absolutely ram the ship

into the time ship. Do it. Fuck them. Yeah. If we're going down, we're all going down in a scene that very much mimics the teacup crashing to the ground in part one. Interacts runs into his office to see his triangle full of hair,

fall off of his desk and crash, and a little lock of hair phases out of existence before his very eyes. Oh, what's he gonna jack at with now? It was all for nothing! There are so many audio clips to pull from slackers having to do with his hair doll thing.

It sucks. He's devastated. It's all he had left of his wife. It's the only way he can get himself over the top, over his skis. The ship blows up. It's another praxis style explosion with a wave that generates outward. And as it dissipates, we get a captain's log and a pristine starship Voyager entering the frame.

Yeah. So pristine, there's no moment of like, whoa, what was that? Like no one recognizes it, recognize it that... No one recognizes that there's anything out of sorts here. There is no year of hell. The year of hell never happened, Adam. Janeway's log. All is normal with my nips. I'm just on the bridge thinking about how great these nips are doing.

Not to mention my butt. I'd say this is cause for celebration. A vessel is approaching off the port bow captain. Oh, man. It's the cranium. And it's that guy, that guy from the first episode, the guy we hate. The guy ironically, who has no hair, which is also symbolic because of the disappearance of the hair in the previous scene.

Wow. God, I love that film paper. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Nice paper. Yeah, and she's like, hey, what's up, man? And he's like, hey, you know, this is like disputed territory. You're in crannum space, but, you know, keep your head down

and travel on through. And you shouldn't have any problems. I love how professional this interaction is. Yeah. He's like someone at a gate at a facility. Like, hey, just got to check ideas and then wave you through or whatever. Like, she's like, we then wave you through or whatever. Like she's like, we're just dropping off a pizza.

Pepperoni and cheese. And so they decide to go around crannum space, given this warning. Yeah. And then the astrometrics lab is gonna come online. That's gonna be great for them. Yeah, Chico, just like, hey, let's do some kind of party in honor of the astrumix, in honor of the astrumixers, in honor of the blah, blah, blah. Sounds great.

We'll replicate some teaky drinks to celebrate. Why don't we smoosh a bottle against the astrumetric lab? Have a great time. Yeah. It'll be great. Button on the episode. Oh my God. He'll be great. Button on the episode. Oh my God. He's alive.

You really recognize what a big hair freak anoraxes in the scene because he's made his wife grow it out learn. He has her come over to his side of the desk and he's like just choke me without hair. She wraps her hair around his neck twice. It's that long. I'm Kurt Wood Smith. I am really into hair. Oh, man.

He's such a workaholic. Yeah, come on, man. It's breakfast time. Why are you fucking working this hard? I sell myself an anterax. I saw a dark future for me. Wow. He's there working on his time computations.

I mean, does it matter? Does any of this matter, Ben? I'm asking about our show. I'm not asking about the episode. But I'm also asking about the episode because the suggestion is, Anorax is gonna come up with a time ship eventually. Yeah. And this didn't change anything. Or did it? Yeah. The suggestion is, Anirax is gonna come up with a time ship eventually.

And this didn't change anything. Or did it? Yeah. Are you asking me if I like this episode? I'm only a don't wanna do it. Do it. Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow.

Make it yourself. Yeah, did you like it? No. You like that? No. The end sucks. I think that the end is a total day who's ex-monkey to it. It's, it's like a bad outer limits twist ending. Oh. I

think that there's so much to like about this episode. There's so much about the production of it that is exciting and good and fun. But don't go to anirax's house, right? I don't think they stick the landing. Yeah. Yeah. And that really disappointed me that that button really made me feel away about the whole thing. Shit. I Didn't love it. But I loved the episode and the two-parter as it was. I feel like this could be an Entire sci-fi series the idea of people cruising around in a time ship trying to make things right. It could be a whole thing.

Yeah, for sure be a season of discovery, right? The idea of stuffing this into two episodes is interesting to me. It sure does seem like a discovery season for sure. Yeah. And God, you're right, the ending sucks. I wish we didn't get that. But as a counterpoint, Janeway has never been a better captain or a more interesting character

or hotter than she's been the last two episodes. Like when she turns it into totally focused captain mode, there's something really inspiring about that in a way that, like that is a special gear for a starship captain, and she's got a different way about it, and it works for me. I think she's great. Yeah, I wish it wasn't so zero sum with Chico Tei though.

Like it kind of feels like they thought they had to like, really take Chico Te down several pegs in order to make Janeway seem great. This episode is an atrocity for Chico Te. It is really bad. Yeah. We've almost downgraded him to like season one Chico Te as a result. It's not good. I don't want that to happen.

I like, it was on such a great trend. Yeah. And then he had that cool mustache. God. What about the mustache? The second the mustache comes off, the coach loses it. Yeah, bring back the stash.

I think they could really do it. Yeah, I would love to see somebody cosplay mustache to go. Bring it back. Wow. Well, it's been an emotional roller coaster. I'm finishing the last of my blender drink. Wow. You have, I've been talking too much.

I got to take this thing to the dome. Yeah. Do you want to check the priority one inbox? See what's going on in there? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that is a... That's cask strength right there in the P1 inbox. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

I need a supplement on that. A supplement on that? A supplement. Yeah it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben, our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. Someone paid to have a message on a drunk a soda. Oh, I feel bad for them. This poor bastard. Here's that message, remember, when author Robert C. Murray sent a P1 to TGD to tell FODs about his books. The Titan Run trilogy? Probably not. Because like Kern, he forgot to mention his name. Robert Seymoury, yes, that Robert Seymoury.

Wow, not the other one. Rob loves TGG-SlGG slash D. Kind of like that as an abbreviation for both shows. That's why TGG slash D. Yeah, so much. The D threw more scarves to his fave pod hosts to advertise his books that have spaceships people and spaceships and people leaving spaceships. To do stuff on planets, not Earth, in the future. The whole ebook trilogy is $6. $6! Damn, that is a deal. Nothing. Robert, you gotta raise your prices, man.

See TitanRunTryLigogy.space for more. So here's the thing. I'm looking straight into the camera right now. Yeah, well everybody at home can see that. Friends at Disoto. There is $60 of booze in my drink. I think you... I think you've got $6 to drop on TitanRunTrilogy.space. The place where you can find amazing sci-fi books by the Robert C. Murray. I, you really pour top shelf shit for a tiki episode when you actually participate in one. My overproof bourbon is the good stuff man. Man. I need to get cheap over proof is what I need.

Yeah, chover proof, they call it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh, Adam, our next priority one message is from Mark Allen. It's to Adam and Ben as thanks for great pod. Goes like this. In 2015, I started my five year mission to watch all Star Trek everywhere. In 2020,

I discovered the greatest generation and I've been marathoning it while writing my dissertation. For me, Jake and Nag became rumies and Kern is the most recent impression. I'm interested in seeing when I catch up to this message and we'll send another when I do. Wow. Wow. So we'll hear from Mark Allen in like two years. Yeah. I hope Mark Allen isn't writing their dissertation about us and our bad impressions.

I hope that's what Mark Allen's doing. Wow. Look, here's the thing about dissertations and about all the college papers. It doesn't fucking matter. Just write something that makes logical sense in the context of your paper and it's fine. Any professor is gonna respect that. I was interpreting this.

What do you think you need to do? The confidence in your paper convictions. It is what's gonna get you that 4.0. I was kind of interpreting dissertation as maybe a PhD left for dissertation in this context. I don't know why. Yeah, but maybe it is. I feel like it might actually matter when it's for your doctorate.

I mean, how often do you think of your college course work band? All the time, it haunts me to this day. Ha ha ha ha. I wish I could go go back do it all over again. Yeah. Ben our final priority one message is from Gabe of Starbase 69. Wow nice. There you go. It's to Ben and Adam. The message goes like this. Serendipity demanded that I follow up on my previous shout out to Starbase69 Nice on the day that P1 dropped the references to the episode called all hat and no loaf Hmm. I got results indicating that my brain tumor got dexter remicked by radiation and shrunk by about 90%

Compared to before treatment Fuck yeah, thanks for keeping me laughing through it all Gabe. Hey, I'm no doctor. I Think the radiation's working buddy, dude. I would keep doing that Fucking rules. Congratulations Gabe. Yeah, man Shrink that fucking tumor fuck that shit fuck it fuck that tumor Yeah Piece of shit just get that shit out of there. Yeah, look at that fucking right. I'm a piece of shit out of there Get that rotten garbage out of your fucking head

Yeah, you get that tumor out of there like you ask for it ask the surgeon for it flesh it down the fucking toilet Yeah, throw it on the ground and stomp on it. Yeah, that's what it deserves I have a dog pee on it and then flush it down the toilet Gabe you rule. Yeah, don't take any shit from this tumor. Yeah, seriously Kick that tumor in his fucking teeth. I love it. If you would like to get a priority one message on the show, the way to do it is by arranging it at maximumfun.org slash jumbo-tron. It's a great way to help keep the lights on around here while also supporting yourself. What? I mean like you know commercial, aren't you? Oh yeah.

Support yourself while supporting us. Yeah that's exactly how it works. Or like What? I mean, like, you know, commercial, aren't you? Oh yeah! Support yourself while supporting us. Yeah, that's exactly how it works. Or like making your friends day by supporting them. That's good! You know, on their birthday or whatever. It's support in Miriam directions. Yeah.

It's like they give of spider-mans pointing at each other. Mm-hmm. But I support instead of spider-mans. Yeah, it's all spiders men. They are. Hey Adam. What's happened? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?

Drunk Shimoda! You've got a character in an episode that can't be reasoned with, can't be controlled, can't be contained, busts out of a uniform. Whoa. Where's a watch that smashes their badge and butt whenever they walk anywhere? Yeah.

I mean, my, my Shimodo is Janeway. She is a rogue aton. Yeah. She's out there doing what she wants to do. Yeah. And I want to do it with her. She rules out there doing what she wants to do. And I want to do it with her. She rules.

It's fun to do bad things. It's fun to do whatever you want. And that's what Janeway is doing. This is Captain's Paragot of Shit. She doesn't want to drink the shitty coffee. She doesn't want to keep the shit in this fucking nebula any minute longer than she needs to. No.

She's ready to smash that time ship. And I think to me that's it makes her the Shimoda true Triple true. What about you Ben? I think For the reason that it seems like he is pulling the most Isolationer chips out of the episode. I've got to give it to Chico Te. Yeah. He is totally doing that. He fucking sucks this episode. Yeah. It's Shimoda for the bad reason, not for the fun reason. Yeah.

Yeah. Dark Shimoda. He's my dark Shimoda for this episode. I feel bad about it. I hope he has a better rest of the season. Yeah. Cause the beginning of season four has been a rocky road for our friend. I mean, I think bringing back the beard would go a long way. Yeah. Yeah.

Bring the facial hair back online like the no sells almost starship. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. I'm really close to finishing the last sips of my drink, Adam. I'm fucking smushed right now. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Are you too smushed to type goch that biz slash game into your browser? Oh, no. I'll do that right now.

Well, Adam, the next episode of Star Trek Voyager, season four, episode 10, random thoughts. of Star Trek Voyager season four episode 10, random thoughts. Well, on Shoreleave on a planet of telepaths, Belana is arrested for a murder that is blamed on her violent thoughts. Wow. I mean, this seems like something that Paris would know a little bit about. Given his experience on that one planet

with the super foxy lady with the dog. Yep. Yep. You know, no stranger to the false accusation. That's what I'm saying. That's an interesting comparison. I wonder if it'll come up in the episode. Ben, I have gone to the game of buttholes the will of the profits. That's not what it's called. Ben, I've gone to the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker where I have glimpsed our runabout on square 12. Yeah. It's a Cocoa Nono episode. That's why we did all this. Yeah, that's why we are the way we are right now. If I were to roll a six,

it would mean a quarks par episode next time around. And why not just do that? Like why not just lean into whatever this is that we're trying to do here? It doesn't matter. We can. None of this matters. I'm gesturing around the room.

None of this matters. You're required to learn as you play. Role. Don't roll six, please. I'm gonna roll the die. I have only rolled a one. Shula! Did I win? Classic Adam roll, we're on, it's where 13.

It's a regular rolled episode. It's a dry out episode, really. Lucky 13. Yeah. Yeah. Thank goodness. That's us. Yeah, man, let's hydrate for the next episode. Yeah, that's a good idea, right? That does sound like a good idea Adam. You know what sounds like the best idea? Stopping this My life is a mess and I can't get off this ride. Whatever it is. Yeah There are no breaks for us.

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I think that probably puts you in an advantage. You think she'd defend me? I doubt it. She's not that kind of lawyer. We would not want her to defend against. Yeah. You know what? She'd probably let us burn. Yeah.

We'd be better for her if she did. Absolutely. Yeah. She would be like a balloon with a lead weight that suddenly got snipped off the bottom of it. Yeah. You would rock it to the top of American society. Yeah. I'm gonna get you, you'll be caught on the you I'm gonna get you, that's the right one Make it, make it, make it, make it, make it, make it, show

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