The Greatest Generation - Hard to Hide a Gun in a Bathrobe (DS9 S4E21)

Episode Date: July 15, 2019

When Kasidy Yates is accused of smuggling for the Maquis, Captain Sisko doesn’t believe it. But when the evidence becomes incontrovertible, hers is just the first in a series of double-crosses he’ll experience that day. Where are all the octo-pip admirals? Is Ben anti-karaoke? What does a Cardassian bathrobe look like? It’s the episode that smells good…through a door!

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I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm Ben Harrison. And we are having bad days, both of us. Bad days, bad couple of days. Yeah. Things aren't great for us right now, but one thing that I learned again today is the healing power of making this show. I stepped up to the mic and I was like, I'm too cranky for this shit.

It's not going gonna work this time, but it works every time. Yeah, I always, I mean, a better mood after recording Sash than I was before. And there might, I mean, I don't know. Sometimes getting drunk has the opposite effect though. And this is a drunk, I said. We did land on a corks bar.

It's true. The last time we rolled the dice. In terms of the Quark's bar, pretty clear. It's not a like drinking contest or like century club situation. It's like two guys at a bar. Two guys at an open bar. Yeah.

Maybe I should say. Just talking about an episode of Deep Space Nine. I think you make a great point. And it makes me want to break out in song, to be quite frank. Pffft. Yes. Making part about Star Trek today is sometimes less than great. The game of buttholes, will of the prophet, deals cruel twists of fate.

Wouldn't you like to drink some beer? Sometimes you wanna go where every shmouda is drunk And your friend can take a dunk You wanna have that bit moments with friends who've done the same And talk like KERN without feeling insane. You wanna go where friends of DeSoto are more than just Adam and Ben. You wanna do a drug-a-sode of greatest Jen. K-K-K-K-K-K. Alright, I don't have a second version.

Wow. That was great. We didn't pre-plan that at all. That is amazing. I will tell you that the just peak behind the pod curtain, I wrote that in between recording an episode of Greatest Discovery, which we just finished like 10 minutes ago. And that is fantastic. And I also figured out a way to play a song that we could both hear. That was like magic. Shocked by that. Yeah. Aren't you an anti-carryoke? Is that a

thing that that I know about you or am I confusing you with someone else? Um, I've done karaoke a few times. I kind of feel weird about doing karaoke in a private karaoke context because I feel like it kind of goes against the the ethos of it. But I also don't know enough songs well enough to do it in public. So it's weird how like the private karaoke intimacy heightens the the risk. I much prefer an open karaoke bar to that. Yeah, and I think that there are a lot of people who feel exactly the opposite. Yeah. One thing that we have learned about ourselves since starting this project,

I would say even, is that we're fans of being in front of a crowd, you know. Oh yeah, huge fan of that. Okay, maybe I'm wrong. No, you're totally right. It's weird to contrast reluctance to private karaoke and 50,000 downloads of a great occasion episode. Yeah. I don't know, that's squares, but here we are. Is that the private room or is that the public room? I think we've interrogated this and it is the public room, right?

Well, that's the case. That's the case. I don't want to compare myself to, like, Seinfeld. Like, I don't want to talk to one person. Why would you do that? It's insane. I don't want to talk to one person, but I love talking to a room full of people or whatever. But... Oh, wasn't that an Al Gore thing, too? Isn't that, like, what his deal was? He was so bad. Oh, yeah. And small groups, like, rate on big stages. A lot of people don't realize

that they were roommates at Yale. What? No. God, I was so ready to believe that. Al Gore was roommates with Tommy Lee Jones. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

I love the idea of confusing Tommy Lee Jones. Jerry Suntel. Tommy Lee Jones has heard Al Gore crank it. Oh, yeah. Is that amazing? Tommy Lee Jones has disregarded a gym suck hung on the door and walked in on Alan Tipper going at it. I don't know what to make of that.

I was never caught cranking it in college. It seems like a situation fraught with that kind of danger. Yeah, were you in a dorm where it was just a, like a door onto a hallway? Or? Yeah. Okay. Because my dorms were always, it was always like, there was a living room,

a kitchen and a bathroom, and then there were two bedrooms and each bedroom was too beds, you know? Like, I feel like the risk of getting caught cranking it is substantially reduced when you have a bedroom door that can be locked that doesn't lead to the hallway. Yeah. Anyways, I've thought a lot about this.

I think one way to pivot in the episode is to give ourselves the opportunity to describe what we're drinking. In my case, I am drinking the green room, which is to you and me, just a great big tequila soda. In a giant frosty mug that I got out of my freezer. Oh wow, you do mug in the freezer. I do mug in the freezer. Do you put beer in your freezer mugs? I almost never do that, but lately I have been using them more and more.

I don't know what got into me. Because I think serious beer people, which I don't think you should live your life like a serious beer person. That's not what I'm saying. But serious beer people frown on the ice cold glassware because there's a precipitate that comes out of beer when it touches an ice cold surface and you get the little flakes in your beer. I have serious beer people in my life. Some of my best friends are serious people,

which is what allows me to say what I'm about to say. That is the classic defense of somebody who is serious beer personist. I like to be refreshed from my beverages, and those people can fuck off with their beer temperatures. I would rather have mine cold. Mm. Speaking of being refreshed,

I'm drinking a victory brewery summer love golden ale. That sounds nice and porgy. Yeah, that's good. I really like the victory family of products. Their pilsner is one of my favorite beers in the whole wide world. And that- I don't drink a ton of beer these days.

Yeah, I mean either. I've really like drastically cut back on most alcohol and beer in particular, but I figured for a quirk's bar I would crack a couple of brew dogs with my buddy Adam. Do you want to get into the episode? Yeah, let's get into it. Kind of a serious one today, as we talk about Deep Space 9, Season 4 episode 21 for the cause. We open in Captain Cisco's bedroom and the triangular pillows of his bed. Cisco is having sleepovers with Cassidy Yates at this point in their relationship.

Things have really progressed. You think he's putting a sock on his door? Because he's living with Jake, of course. Jake should move out. He should. Jake is old enough that he should have his own place in a monious society where the economic pressure of that is not stupendous.

I feel like that episode is coming. It has to be coming. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder. But there It has to be coming. Yeah. Yeah. But there never seems to be any of that tension in their roommate relationship. Right. Yeah. Jake is not like a slob. He's not. He doesn't have annoying teenager habits.

Yeah. He is very slightly rebellious in that he doesn't want the career. His dad always imagined he would have, but he's not like, fuck dad! Ugh! You know, like, he's not the impetuous teen. No, and he's not running the station out of hot water with a shower jacking either. I know.

He's a little bit asexual as a teenager, which is, I mean, some people are, but weird for a show in the mid 90s to make a teenager such a great roommate, which he really is. Yeah, weirdly asexual for somebody who goes on as many dabo girl dates as he does. Right. Ben does Cassidy use a device to change her clothes and style her hair because there's a little bit

of a magic trick in the scene. Yeah. Where she gets up from bed wearing one thing and then she leans in for a kiss wearing something else. Yeah, she has that Chanel eye box that Lilo uses and the fifth element. I like this bit of magic. It's not even referred to as a thing. It's so subtle, you might not even notice that it's happened. There's no sound effect to it.

Yeah. She just steps out and steps back in. Maybe too subtle for its own good. Cisco really likes the way this lady smells because the second she's out of the room, he checks his own triangle for hers. He gets under the sheets and smells the spot. I am a starfleet officer. Hervys this go. Geez. Get in there and root around man. Gross.

We cut to the wardrobe and it's Eddington leading a MacLaughlin group. Is your want? Which seems a little unique and fun. A unique and fun, not just in that, but also in that he is delivering a Muglavlun group about highly sensitive starfleet information. Right. Two people like Wharf and Dax and Kira, like bangers are in this room. Yeah, this is your senior staff and Eddington, who I guess is a Lieutenant Commander, is privy to some pretty highly classified shit that the rest of the gang needs to be briefed on. Yeah, which is also weird, right?

Like, why is he the only one who knows this stuff? Why all the secrecy? I don't know. I mean, like the episode where he betrayed Cisco, he was doing it on behalf of some Starfleet admiral, right? Yeah. So presumably he's got communications channels with Starfleet security,

but you would think that like, Wurf would also have those. Maybe Wurf turns off his combat when he goes to sleep in the little D. Oh, yes. Cell reception is terrible out there. So let's see if we can recap this meeting. Eddington's in there saying that

there's a shipment of industrial replicators that the Federation is secretly sending to the Cardassian civilian government. And ordinarily, this wouldn't be a big deal, but they need to keep this on the down low, because if the Mayquise find out about it, they're going to want to intercept them, take them, or destroy them. They're not going to want wanna allow this to happen. And there's this demilitarized zone that separates the federation from the cardacians, and it's right next to the badlands,

and it's just a whole confluence of complexity here. And the DMZ is the disputed territory where the makeweas are so cranky about where the lines got drawn in the peace treaty. And if you'll recall, like the makeweas' whole deal is to disrupt the relationship between the Federation and the Cardassians because they are the aggrieved party. Yeah. They've been the ones many times who've been asked to leave their planet for the sake

of a treaty. This is the whole Cal Hudson thing. Right. And the case that Eddington is making is that the fact that the cardacians are so busy defending themselves from the klingons all the time leaves them fairly vulnerable to the make-wice. Like the make-wice are actually a not-insubstantial threat to the cardacians now that they have to fight a conventional war in addition to the insurgent war. Cisco does the math on the situation. He's like transport ships, the little D. Why I think Alessine warped to this mission. And so he does. He puts warp right back on the little D and

sends them out. What are you doing? You know Adam there's a case to me made though that Worf is the best person for this job now because he's had a pretty major fuck up. He's feeling the heat from that. He's like the least likely person to shoot a 737 out of the sky full of civilians. Quark asks him later like what would happen if he had to shoot the shipment of replicators or if it's like, I hope I get to. Sounds great. I mean, I learned a valuable lesson a couple of episodes ago and I will definitely not shoot

a transport ship. That's the briefing and everybody clears out, but Odo and Eddington stick around. They've got something fairly sensitive that they wanted to talk to Cisco about. And that is this. They have developed some fairly compelling circumstantial evidence that Cassidy Yates may be selling shit to the Mayquise. Captain Cisco is rightly incredulous about this and wants proof immediately,

but there isn't really much of it. These are suspicions. This is not an accusation, and that is a parsing of words that they actually do in this scene. Right, they don't bring an octopip admiral in interrogated fully, but the suspicion is there and one thing that is discussed is like,

maybe we should step up our surveillance of her and really like go into her shit. And he says like, You can't just invade her privacy based on your suspicions. And Edding did say something outrageous in this moment. He says, if she's really a marquee, then she's no longer a federation citizen.

Yeah. That is not how due process works. It's not, but it sounds contemporaneous to extraordinary rendition. Yeah. Except for this predates that, you know, as like a thing that people were talking about politically, like it's a pretty terrifying idea, right? That the second year loyalty is deemed to have flagged

an Iota, you've foregone all of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship. Pretty interesting concept that Eddington's alluding to here. Especially for him. Yeah, it's interesting that it comes from his mouth. And right, I think that it does. I wonder what to make of it. Like, is that actually true?

Or are there like people in Federation security who have leave unilaterally to determine that somebody has forsaken their citizenship. If so, that's fucking terrifying. And the Federation is not the utopia we've been led to believe it is. Cisco is nervous in this scene for another reason, and that's because the Joja is purported to have been in contact with the Mayquise and Cisco's cargo has been in that ship He kind of itches himself uncomfortably with that knowledge That that ship has been around. Oh, I hope they're packing a vest for the show chef. Oh, no

Presents a plan to sort of step up surveillance, but Cisco kind of dismisses this out of hand. And then like right before Odo and Ennington leave, he sort of obliquely recommends a search of her ship under the cover of some sort of other thing. Right. And Odo's like, I wish I could, but one of my best transportation investigators is no longer on the station. Go to Compton, Compton. Go to Compton.

So, we got a sporting event on the station, Adam. This has happened once or twice before. It's definitely an established fact that people spectate racquetball, but it seems like now they are spectating live in person. It's not on closed circuit TV from Quark's bar anymore. Kirik kicks the ass of whoever she's playing in spring ball, and I want to know who she's playing.

I know. It really seemed like that person was going to take their helmet off, and we were going to get like a big hilarious reveal. Yes! We'll play it from up there. It's Gyanin. We know that Gyanin would have won if it had been Gyanin. Really weird. This is a scene that's all about Garrick and Zial.

Zial who looks a little different now because she's played by someone else and they're sharing glances which could be seen to imply either an attraction or a suspicion between them. I wondered why Zee-al got recast. I thought that the lady in that part was great. Yeah, I thought so too. Not that New Zee-al isn't, but this episode isn't close proximity to the other one. It's weird to do a recast like four episodes apart or whatever. Yeah, I mean, I agree that this performance is also good. And the loaf does a lot of this, but she does look a lot like the other lady, I want to say. There is no like satisfying conclusion to this scene. It's be sure you're telling Garek to take

it easy on Z-All. Right. And to pay more attention to the game. The case be sure you're telling Garrick to take it easy on Z-All and to pay more attention to the game. The case has made that Garrick is quite curious about Z-All's presence on the station and that is potentially hazardous to him because if it's not Goldu-Cut that would kick his ass, it's Kira. Yeah, why would you want the trouble? She doesn't seem worth it. I wouldn't play around with her if I were you. I kind of feel like they should make a deep space nine cookbook bin of all of Ben Sisko's abomination. Because the next scene... Everything is just cut up carrots badly.

So what he's making is a stew on top of spinach lingueini. And what he's putting on top as a garnish is cubed carrots, raw. Or maybe butternet squash, not a thing that would be good. There's like a fun bit of dialogue here between Cassidy and Cisco, where Ben Cisco's like, yeah, I'm making this monstrosity. And I think, is it Cassidy or is it Jake?

One of them is like, yeah, like your neighbors love smelling your cooking down the hall. I mean, I know we've both lived in apartment buildings where you could smell someone else's cooking. That never smells good. I don't think. Nobody's cooking smells good through a door. Yeah. It's funny, right? Because you walk into somebody's house that's cooking

and it's always exciting, you know? Yeah. But it doesn't work. If you smell it through a door, somehow, somehow doors filter out whatever is pleasurable about smelling cooking. The doors change everything. Who understands that?

I don't know. Cisco is not slick in this scene because he keeps kind of trying to pussy foot around what she might be doing on her next run. She is a trucker essentially. And he's like, so, uh, or a head and through Montana on that next run. And you chance you're going to be in Billings? Ish! What route do you take to the Drian system?

I think if there's one thing we know about Ben Sisko is that subtlety is not his strong suit. Don't you make a regular cargo run to a neighboring system? Yeah. At any level. Who is your daddy and what does he do? Right. Like, how did he ever get with Cassidy H to begin with?

It's funny because I think that Avery Brooks actually does have a great command of subtlety in some of the choices he makes in performing this character, but the character has no subtlety. Right. Which is really funny. I wonder how frustrating that is for an actor to be capable of something like that and to play a character who isn't. I don't know. I kind of get the feeling it's a choice though. Yeah, we cut to a very brief turbo lift scene

where Garek runs into Zial and that meet cute happens where everyone else but them gets off of a turbo lift. Yeah. And they flirt and joke about their mutual need not to fear each other. Which is how Cardassians flirt, right? Yeah, I mean, the upshot is them assuring each other that neither has anything to fear from knowing each other. And that's a pretty dangerous footing to start any kind of relationship on even if it's just friendship.

It would have been to ham and cheese to have just put morn on the turbo lift and then he gets off having just crop tested it. Do you think morn rips rips particular ass? Oh man. With how much he drinks. Yes. Probably far. It's pretty bad. I feel like he's got to be a gassy guy. But like before there is no

strong resolution to this relationship, they sort of agree not to fear each other and then they go their separate ways. We've learned a lot about the intentions with which Andrew Robinson was playing Garek recently. Right. Garek is sort of coded as not straight. They never come out and say it in the series, but I wonder how this reads from a queer viewing of the show because I never get the sense that Garrick is interested in a romantic relationship with Ziel,

but I'm watching it from an unsubisticated like cis straight white guy standpoint. Because I think Bashir, at least in the writing, is definitely concerned that Garrick wants to bang Zial. The way I saw it was that any romance derived from them looking at each other was on the part of Zial in her receiving of the male gaze and not Gary in his giving of that. You know, I feel like she's taking it in what could be interpreted as a romantic fashion, but it's not being transmitted that way. But I don't think we're retconning that based on what we know from what Andrew Robinson

has said about his character. I feel like it's in the show. Yeah, I mean, he might actually be attracted to her. I don't know what to make of it. And I wondered if he's gay, then this whole scene reads as much funnier in some ways because it's a friendship flirt, but maybe being misinterpreted by everybody but them as that, as something more than that.

Also, attraction can be not romantic. Right. For a while, I worked in an office building where I was one of like six people. My age, like everyone else who's in their 40s and 50s and then half a dozen of us were in our 20s. And you are attracted to being around people that are of similar ages or backgrounds. And I feel like if you're one of two

Cardassians on the station there's gonna be an attraction there and it may not be romantic But like they want to know each other yeah, and that it that seems to be the implication Regardless of whether or not anything's loaded Romantically here. Yeah for sure, down in the docking ring, the Jeosha is being held up for six hours by station security. I'm really tired of being insulted. Who are claiming that they need to do a level two inspection of Cassidy H. his cargo because of a virus that has broken out on Bejor, and she is complaining to Odo that that's gonna

really fuck their schedule up. They're trying to make a connecting flight in Minneapolis and they're not gonna catch it if they leave six hours from now. This tomeculine virus that they're scanning for, and you can pick it up in a place like an antique store or an old town district. For you know, you're just gonna take that back to Marietta.

I don't have to drive no idea what you did there. Talking about Temecula, the city in Southern California, Ben. Temecula Canyon. It's known for the surrounding Temecula Valley wine country with its hillside vineyards and many golf courses. Canyon. It's known for the surrounding Temecula Valley wine country. Uh-huh. With its hillside vineyards and many golf courses. Okay. I'm just shouting out my my listeners in Temecula, Ben. Oh yeah. What up Temecula? Temecula in the house. Look out for our greatest gen tour hitting old town

Temecula. And the holiday and express there. Yeah, yeah. The booking agent dropped us shortly after we announced our intention to do that. Yeah. Yeah, now we're booking ourselves. It's nothing but Victor Villain Temecula all the way down.

We are not good at business. villain, Temecula, all the way down. We are not good at business. Cassidy is so pissed at the idea of being detained here that she actually goes to Captain Cisco on a FaceTime. Yeah. It asks to be let out of it. And this is such an interesting scene, Ben, because I completely understand why she would do it, but she does it basically in front of Odo and the security team.

Right. Like, they should be insulted by this. This whole, like, if mom says no, ask dad thing that she does, but you never get that part of the conflict. I wonder about this, like, my wife works for an influential politician, and I always wonder, like, if she got pulled over, could she, could she drop that and like get the cop to let her go, you know, if she got pulled over for speeding and said the right thing, would it make a difference? But she's the kind of person that would never, ever, ever in a zillion years do that in that context. It's just not how she rolls.

Zillion years do that in that context. It's just not how she rolls. But Cassidy definitely like, you know, still making eye contact with Odo while she's on FaceTime with Cisco going. Ben, please. I respect that motivation from her, but like neither is there a bit of conflict on her end in her background, nor is there one from Ben Cisco going,

ah, Cassidy, you're really putting me into a pickle here. Right. You're really breaking my balls here. I got to write reports about this to my superiors and explain why this one ship got released from this regulation. And this is an area where subtlety I don't think serves the moment because if that exists here, it's so subtle

as to not even be felt. Right. So she gets to go, but he makes it happen. Yeah, but the little D is on her tail and cloaked. It is alpha quadrant cloaked to sneak after the captain's girlfriend. I love the context clue of this sequence, Ben, because we never see like blurry exterior little D. Instead, we see all of the stations in that cloaked blue. Yeah.

And this is something we've been taught as viewers for the last couple of seasons. Yeah, the lighting on the bridge changes when they're under cloak. Cisco changes his soup from a hot soup to a gispacho. Yeah, so suddenly he's having a Vichy swas soup. Yeah. You don't want to work the microwaves while you're under cloak, Ben.

Oh yeah. Let off all kinds of emissions that are detectable. Little D's orders are to follow the Georgia and only take pictures. Ew, seriously? Ben, and this is one of the most fun missions, I think, in movies or television. Yeah.

Brian is doing a thing on the bridge of talking about controversial politics with his coworkers. So I, he doesn't get invited to dinner parties. Yes. Outside of his decision not to attend dinner parties. No kidding. And also just like lipping off to Worf. They should be hunted down and destroyed.

Not for defending their homes. He's talking about the make-wease and Worf is like, I would never become a terrorist even in the context in which the make-wease became terrorists. And Brian's like, I wouldn't tell that to Major Kira. Come on, man, that's your boss. He's a lieutenant commander. You're a fucking unlisted man, like you can't do that.

Eddington is great in this scene because he knows not to talk about these matters while it work. And I like that they resisted the temptation to like put the camera in Eddington's face and show him grimacing as they as they talked about it. It's in keeping with his character like he's the tryhard annoying guy like and that and it doesn't tip you off. But they also like let you forget that he's there a little bit like it seems like it's just going to be an O'Brien War scene. Yeah. And then O'Brien turns and it's kind of like almost a reveal

that Eddington is also sitting on the bridge. The real revelation of this scene is that a Mayquees Rader pulls up to Cassidy's ship and receives its cargo. Yeah. So the suspicion has been confirmed. At this point, no matter what happens in the episode, we know that Cassidy is working

with the Mayquise in some capacity. What are you doing now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, off of Cassidy's hands. Yeah. Like, that's the kind of ship that the make-wee's used, but it wasn't a make-wee's, it was somebody else, or she was deceived into doing that. She didn't know what she was transporting or to whom. It wasn't me, it was the one armed man. You know, something like that. Like if it was that, if it was she didn't know, it makes her look like an idiot and a, and a rube. Yep.

Which is, that would dishonor that character, you know, she's not an idiot. No. But I was trying to make her an idiot because I didn't want to believe. And I think that that's like a very powerful, like a really sophisticated and cool storytelling idea. I think the B story here struggles to rise to the tension of the A story because back at Garrick's, Zial has visited his tailor shop and she invited him for a Cardassian Schwitz. Yeah. Because she has the honey stick of a Cardassian

sauna Hollis wheat program and she doesn't want to go alone. Yeah she got the the Burke Williams honey stick. And I guess the cardassians are always a little bit chilly around everybody else. Their desired temperature is quite a bit higher than that of other humanoids. So their son of program would be lethal to anybody but a cardassian.

Yeah. But it sounds like a date, right? Like, sauna is a pretty sexy first date. I was wondering if you might be interested in trying it out with me. Yeah. It's either sexy or gross, right? Yeah, if it's not nude,

then it's actually a lot more gross because I can't believe that what they're wearing is gonna be very breathable. It made me wonder like does Gerek have electric blankets sewn into his clothes? Oh, interesting take. It would be really fun if Gerek was always wearing a parka.

Be weird if all cardassians had a spit valve at the bottom of their clothes. What all the sweat out? Gross. You never see Garyx sweat, though. No. Maybe they don't sweat. He is real stunned when she drops this invitation off, though.

Yeah. Might be the only time we've seen him really off his guard in a major way. He takes her up on it, though. Yeah. No reason not to. That's go do cuts, do it. Jake and his dad are breakfasting the next day. And Jake is ordering some some weird garbage out of the replicator. And sis says like, what the fuck are you eating?

Jake is like, oh, this is a great breakfast that Cassidy told me about. Have you heard of Mentos and Diet Coke? It's my new breakfast. You know how Cassidy makes a foamy white substance come out of you? Look at this. She also makes it come out of my breakfast. Gross. This breakfast irritates Captain Cisco.

What happened to Juzenot me? The very idea of it is disgusting to him. There's a lot of classified information at play here that he cannot divulge to Jake. Instead, he gets a weird dad, which is almost worse, right? Like if he were to just tell Jake the truth, it would be less weird than Jake, I want you to have all my things if something bad were to happen to me

Weird handshake like the lingering hug Yeah, Jake is like that are you drunk? Like I'm sorry about breakfast dad. What's with this? I love you man routine I'll go back to oatmeal and orange juice if you'll just be normal with me again. We don't need to become blood brothers, you're my dad. Yeah, weird. Jakes like, this would be a bad time

to ask for my own apartment. Ha ha ha ha. Dad's seeming very clingy right now. Ha ha ha. And you know, when you know shit is bad, when you're accusing Ben Sisko of being clingy because that level of clingingness is bonkers. Yeah, at the McLaughlin group, they are talking about what to do about this Cassidy 8 issue.

And it looks like what she was transporting to them was either medical supplies or food. As we've seen from Jake's breakfast, food can be weaponized. You never know what kind of foam is going to be deployed by the medics later. Right, but it's still a really bad look and Ben is very pissed off. Dax wants to stop and talk it out with him and he's even addicted to her. This mistleted me. Where's Kira? It feels like it's odd that she's been sidelined from all this.

It's an episode where I wanted to go and dax to talk more. And it's an episode where I wanted Kira's perspective more. And I think that it's an episode that's aware that it's missing those two things. Yeah. and I think that it's an episode that's aware that it's missing those two things. You know, like the don't tell Kira about your opinions about terrorists' warf scene. Right. Telegraphs the Kira element and the dismissed old man with Cisco telegraphs the DAX thing.

Like, I did miss the special relationship between Kira and Cisco, though, where they tend to talk about hard shit. Yeah. And that she's never being confided in. It would have been interesting to me. There's just no time. There's just no time.

It's a single, it's a single episode arc. Yeah. Cisco sees the evidence and he is totally crushed. Like that's the big takeaway here is that like it's incontrovertible, it's real and it's bad. It's really and it's bad and he has to kind of keep on a smiling face because Cassidy is back at the station and she comes to see him.

You know, she's got another cargo run to make that night but she wants to hang out for a minute in between cargo runs and he can't divulge to her what he knows. I think this is my favorite scene of the episode because it's pregnant with that breakup energy. Like where one person is acting like everything is normal and the other person is so clearly not down. And like it felt like a breakup was on the table

here in the scene and it doesn't happen. But that's such a real thing, right? So intense. One person has checked out already but hasn't mustered the courage to say it yet. It was really well done. And they don't ham up Cisco's performance here either. Like he is as subtle as he can get.

And you can tell like she lies to Cisco's face. Like she lies to him five or six times in a row about where she's been and what she's going to do and she's specific about it. And like that specificity makes it so ugly. I've got some kind of viral infection in one of their colonies. In fact, I can't stay long. I'm supposed to make a run tonight. It's specific as it either betrays a certain amount of guile, right? It's break up energy, but it's also a fair energy, right?

Yeah. Like, she has a very, a very specific cover story. Yeah. Jake comes in with a honey stick of his own, and this is a fantasy baseball game between different areas of Yankees and Red Sox and Ben declines to go on this third-wheel date. So I guess Cassidy and Jake just go on the date together. Baseball games are long. Like they just go and watch a baseball game for three hours. Yeah. Okay. They can zip by if you get enough $18 beers. Yeah. So you

can't get smashed on Hollisweep beers though. How much does a baseball game beer cost in Seattle? I want to say like $10. It would be like shit. It would be like the middle. I think you can get a beer to Marinor game for $8 and I think you can get a beer for $12. Like, I think there's room to play in the middle of those. I think the cheapest beer at Dodger Stadium is $16. That's why you bring your your works in. Save the beer money and just bring in your spoon. I just jazz gum before the game, you know. That's just a nice day outside. I hope of a little jazz gum before the game, you know that's just a nice day outside the hope of a little jazz gum Yeah, jazz gum father-in-law dodge your dog Panama Yeah, so with them sideline,

it's really like the Eddington Cisco Little D show. I had a problem with this Eddington Cisco scene because the default commander of the Defiant as far as show Canon is concerned is Worf. Yep. And they have this conversation like Eddington is like, well, if I'm here looking after these replicators that are coming through in this big shipment,

who is gonna command the defiant? And Cisco's like, I guess I have to do it. I mean, in retrospect, if Eddington isn't able to make the case for the crew complement being split the way that it's decided, I think his plan sort of fizzles. Yeah, the idea that Warf and Cisco both need to be on the little D, he needs that to be Ironclad.

But what is so persuasive from Eddington is that he makes the case that he doesn't want to have to make a battlefield decision that is related in any way to a Cassidy 8. And he's right, but also he's wrong because the one person who is worse for that situation is probably Ben Sisko, right? Yeah. And you know what, I'm gonna put a hat on top of that hat.

The one person who is worse of all is Forf. Who has, That's where I thought you were going. Who has a history of shooting transport ships when they shouldn't be shot? Yeah. So Cassidy ate his immortal danger. Yeah, she's in mortal danger, and I think maybe suspects it.

Yeah, because of this airlock scene, right? Yeah, he walks down and says like, hey, why don't the two of us just get away from everything, run off to rising? We won't even pack a bag. We'll walk straight out of here, get in a run about and go. Your crew's good, my crew's good, they can handle things without us. And she's like, I know that what we're about to do is super dangerous,

but it's not run about to rise at dangerous. So, no. To borrow a bit of Tamarion language here Ben, this is really a scene of Pacino and Danero at the diner in heat. Yeah. Cassidy knowing like she's been made and Cisco can't do anything about it yet. The Tamarion's really love that movie and really like all of Michael Man's work. Even some of the more uneven later stuff, you know.

Did you also see it as Cassidy knowing? Yeah, I think that's in there. Like I think her character is really savvy, you know. Yeah. She'd have to be to be caught up in as the go-between here. Right. I think that the thing that happens in this story is that Cisco and Cassidy are both in this story is that Cisco and Cassidy are both so invested in their belief systems and in their love for each other that they kind of are blind to the world happening around them. Because the little D follows the Shosa into the badlands. Stop chasing me! And it is Odo that puts it together. Yeah.

This doesn't make any fucking sense because the Shosa is just like in a holding pattern, hanging out for hours and hours, waiting for their contact. And he's like, this is not the slick, dead drop terrorist shit that we have come to know the Maycrease 4. Think about it. If anyone but Cassidy Yates was on the Zozo, would you be commanding this mission yourself? This is a good Odo scene in a good Odo episode. In a season that I feel like has done a lot of work

in disputing how good Odo is at his job. It gets good to be reminded that like he has a job and he's good at it and the scene is an example of that. One main cast character that does not fit into the editing to plan of getting them all on the little D is Kira. She's got a couple of more story beats back aboard the station. One is slamming Garek up against a wall. If you do anything to hurt her, I will make you regret it is clear. If we tries anything funny with Zial, and the other is her getting shot by Eddington. Oh! Because he needs to take over

and not have her interfering with his evil plan. This scene is shot in such a way that, like, there's something baked into the compositional DNA of it where you know someone is going to be shot here. Like, did you get that? Yeah, it's like, Old West Town empty street somehow. Yeah, I agree.

He phasers Kira and then he turns and phasers a pot of mashed potatoes, leaving just the whisk and the potatoes and he walks out of the room and locks the door. He explains to the Starfleet security yellow shirts that there's a little bit of a change of plan with the replicators They're gonna load them up onto a Vulcan ship. We actually get to see this Vulcan ship like plugged into the station and Boy, it just looks like a heap of laundry like it is it is such an indistinct ship It's built for utility in that style

Yeah, that is all happening while they're putting it together on the little D out in the badlands, like they beam over to the Joseph. You are tortured by self-doubt and fear. And Cisco is accusing Cassidy of having drawn them out to expose the station to an attack, which is a much worse thing to suspector of having done than what she actually has done.

Right. This is just a sad scene like cast people playing dumb and then being turned like not great. And I think that like maybe a little bit undercut some of the work the episode does and not compromising her intelligence. Agreed. And I think that that would be like fairly inexcusable, except for Cisco is also kind of compromised. And I think it is in that way of two people who are in a relationship. Like sometimes in a fit of anxiety or whatever we can convince ourselves

that our most beloved people are doing something bad against us, right? Yeah. Like that's a real thing that happens in relationships and the idea that Cisco goes to the worst possible thing for Cassidy to have done is very realistic, I think. Yeah. What she's actually done is kind of fall for a big plan that Eddington put into place. Like, she is sympathetic to the Make Weas cause and has been used as a pawn by Eddington

to draw Cisco away from the station. So Eddington can hijack these industrial replicators and disappearing to the wind. If you make her any more intentional, you remove the idea of her being a patty. And it's the only thing that makes her forgivable is that she's being manipulated, right? Like she's irredeemable if she presents as any more motivated than she is.

Yeah, because if she's plotting on a level any higher than that than she is. Right. Yeah, because if she's plotting on a level any higher than that, she's a villain. Yeah. So the little D needs to get back to deep space 9 on the double. And it's a little bit creepy because they're hailing and there's no response. And that's because concurrently, Eddington has been briefing Starfleet security about the loading of these replicators and then telling everyone not to communicate with anyone outside the station or even in the station.

It's like a radio blackout happening. He played chess when they thought they were playing checkers and they get back and the deed has been done. They're talking about it in Ops. The major has recovered from her phaser blast. And, you know, Cisco's feeling like a real joke. Like, you got his pants pulled down when a face time comes through from Eddington. And Cisco goes and takes that call in private.

And it is a pretty intense, like, villain gloat. The only reason I've contacted you is to ask you to leave us alone. I really, really like this scene and I really, really like the message. I also really like how it's composed, Ben, because Eddington might as well be looking at the viewer here when he indicts Starfleet and paints it in a light that maybe a Star Trek viewer hasn't seen it before. Not to both sides it too much. What are you Roderick? But I get it and Cisco does not. He is totally closed off to what Eddington is saying here. He does not see that side of the argument at all.

And I thought that was just a fascinating difference between the two. Benzisco does not have an open mind when it comes to the portrayal of the Federation. He doesn't, but also Eddington is a zealot, you know. Like the way Eddington is talking about this, he's slavering. He's so fucking ripshit pissed with the Federation. Yeah. And he says that the Federation are as bad as the Borg. Like, if we're gonna both sides, like, that's,

that says both sides he as it gets. Yeah. And that just isn't true, you know. The Federation made a treaty that didn't work for some people, but generally speaking, the Federation is about providing the most freedom possible for the most people it can. And that's why they're trying to get the Cardassians onto a peaceful footing with them. Like they're, they want, they want everybody to be in the federation eventually. It's interesting that Cal Hudson had a very similar argument and also just totally bounced

off of Benzisco's combat, you know, like Benzisco's bulletproof to this argument. And it doesn't matter who is presenting it, it could be one of his best friends or it could be someone he doesn't really like, like Eddington. Yeah, like you cannot see O'Brien giving voice to the shit, he gives voice to in this episode in Benzisco's presence, right?

Yeah. Because O'Brien knows that that would be his ass. Look, I just found Eddington very persuasive here, and it doesn't mean that I necessarily agree with everything that he said, but the math equals no remainders here. I found his argument compelling, and it made some sense to someone in his position.

All right, all right. All right, all right. Steve, sweet, more, more, more. Steve, here, buddy, more, more that sucks. But if the costume department just neglected to see this as an opportunity to develop that, that sucks. I want to know what the Cardassian bathrobe looks like. Just give us a bathrobe.

It could just be a Terry cloth bathrobe. They give quirk a brand new tunic that's made of grandma's wallpaper, which is like a sixth one of the season, and they can't go to Costco and get a Terry cloth bathrobe for a couple of actors. I think you got to put them in some robes. Yeah. Yeah. It turns out that Ziel's intentions, intentions for this were extremely

innocent and non-dady, you know. Yeah. She was not inviting him on a date. She was inviting him on a, like, let's get together as two people with some similar background. And like, I want to, I want to get to know the, the planet that I can't live on and that you can't live on. Like we were both in a lot of ways isolated from our people and maybe we can be friends about that. I mean I wonder if what we're getting here is a is a Bashir and Garrick breakfast. Like is this going to be done on the regular who knows? Yeah, Garrick definitely had all the status in the Bashir and Garrick breakfast Yeah, in the opening volleys of that. Yeah, and in this is he comes to this terrified right he comes strapped

He has to like put the gun down to enjoy the hang You know, I don't want to go back too far, but I wonder if why they're not in robes is because there's a context to that that could skew too far into the romantic area. Like, like by being close to naked, is that not even a thing that you want to allow in two of you, where's mind? Like, because she's significantly younger than he is for one, and two, if a romantic entanglement is not something that you want even hinted at,

like you can make that case through clothing. Yeah, and it's also just really hard to hide a gun in a bathroom. Indeed. And grease that thing up. Well, the button on the episode, Ben, Indeed. I gotta grease that thing up. Well the button on the episode, Ben, is pretty dark and that's at the airlock. Cassidy-8's has come back alone on her cargo ship.

She's left her crew with the make-wease and she chooses to come back, she says, because of their relationship, because she still loves him, she has returned. But if you're only watching this scene and not listening to the dialogue, I would find this credible, but she comes back to go to jail. I don't understand the logic here. What relationship is she preserving by doing this? I think you could make her a very interesting character by making her an outlaw on the run. I think you could make her a very interesting character by making her an outlaw on the run. Every once in a while, sending facetimes to Sisko the way that Eddington did earlier. Why not preserve that tension?

Here's the thing, man. Jail is not prison. Like, there is a little bit of a case to be made that she was deceived. And she did do some stuff that I think is bad, but she says, I'll be back. I don't think that her as an interesting person to introduce to a storyline is over by any means.

You know what's crazy is that her defense lawyer is Ron Canada. When she ends up going to trial, so interesting choice to bring Chipok back. Yeah, cool. You really want to do this here. Now, okay, okay, let's do it. Did you like the episode, Adam?

Yeah, I think there was a lot to like here. Did you notice that the security guy that she gets taken into custody by his name Lieutenant Reese? I did, and it's the same guy that Eddington throws the keys to the station too earlier. He had a big episode. Do you think that that guy is like the son or grandson of Lieutenant Reese from Star Trek Discovery? I mean, I think we know that the writer's room of discovery are great big fans of DS9. They've mined it for a lot of trivial information.

So maybe, could you? I just like that idea a lot. I'm here for it. I like the episode's interest in like presenting a challenge of dating someone who's political beliefs are different than yours. And I like the parallel suspicions of Asisco and Yates and of Egeric and Zial. There are two great big bangers dropped at the end of this episode. The Eddington thing and the Cassidy Yates thing. It feels like it's a lot of

Star Trek in a little Star Trek bag and I think I tend to like the episodes that really swing for the fences the way this one does. A lot happens here, and I liked it for that reason. What about you? Yeah, I liked it too. I think there's some uneven stuff and some, you know, like I wish the way Garek was intending to relate to Zial had been a little bit more, a little boulder in the way it was presented. I think it may have taken some of the drama out of it.

This might have been the opportunity to kind of secure, you know, Garek's legacy as a, as a gay or, or, or, or at least queer character. And I think it's a, that is preserved in this episode that his, his, his coded queerness, but, but it has not said explicitly. And, and I think that's too bad. But overall, I think it's a pretty interesting story and a pretty good episode. Well, one area of our show that is fairly explicit are our priority one messages. What do you say we head over there and see what we've got?

I'm into that. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. A supplement on it? A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Then our first priority one message is from Stephanie,

Eric, Oscar, and Neil, and it is for Andrew. That message goes like this. A shout out to our favorite captain, sending you all the love from your number one and the Ion Collective. We miss you. Do you think Ion Collective is Eric, Oscar, and Neil, like as an acronym?

I do believe it is an acronym About a lot to drink Adam Stephanie does not make the acronym. Otherwise, it would be the Sion collective, right? Stephanie is number one clearly I know What does it mean? She's a lieutenant on his ship? Clearly and we have another priority one message here and it is from And we have another priority one message here and it is from Comeron Ingborgs and it's too dagel beamsy

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You will like. Ben and Adam big fans. Take word for it. Wow. I read that one along with you and that was every word of it. In the correct order. It read like a drunk priority one message. Yeah. Or it's just very deeply coded.

I feel more inebriated having read it than I already did, which was very. Kenar in Vermont sounds great. If that is indeed what Kenar in VT means. Yeah. Love Vermont. Yeah, that's a nice state. Well, if you have a priority one message of the coded, normal, or commercial nature, you can take it on over to MaximumFund.org slash JoboTron where personal messages are $100. Commercial messages are $200.

And both of them go a long way in supporting the ongoing production of the greatest generation. Hey Adam! What's that been? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I am going to give my drunk Shimoda to Quark, who in his scene with Garrick does not appear to know measurements. He says his pants are a meter too long. I thought he was just using hyperbole in that moment.

Oh really? Oh, I took him literally. Yeah, you might be right. I thought he was just being like, being like a wise-ass. Yeah, I took him literally. Yeah, you might be right. I thought he was just being like a wiseass. Yeah, I mean, maybe... Being a wiseass can get your drunk Shimoda, though. That kind of kneecaps the logic around my Shimoda. Now, I don't know if that was correct, but there is no right or wrong in choosing a drunk

Shimoda band. What did you pick? I picked Cisco for keeping Eddington in a position of trust. Yeah, that was bad. I think if you are the commander of a space station, you probably have leave to remove somebody from your command if you don't trust them anymore. Yeah.

And that opening McLaughlin group reveals that Cisco is still letting Eddington take highly controlled information from Starfleet and disseminating it to him and his staff. Yeah. I would never want to get information from Eddington about what we're doing. We saw this coming too. In that episode where he was double crossed the first time by Eddington, Sisko is like, hey, anyone wearing that uniform gets second chances for me. Yeah. I'm easy A Ben Sisko. And it came back to bite him in the ass just like we thought it would. It would have been great to just have a scene where he goes like, you cowhuts in to me Eddington, you really

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