The Greatest Generation - Hardline Dill (ENT S2E7)

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

When a secret mission from the Vulcan High Command brings another of T’Pol’s past lives into focus, Captain Archer acts like a petulant baby until she invites him along to help out. But once they find Menos on an icy moon, T’Pol’s pickle-brine memories test the developing trust between her and Archer. Where do Vulcans keep their information? What’s one thing everyone knows about seat belts? Which type of trivia is in short supply? It’s the episode that’s been harboring pickle resentment.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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I'm Ben Harrison. We talked about pickles. It's actually kind of a while back now on the show that we talked about pickles. I think months ago, we were talking about Grillo's. Uh-huh. What else did we say about Pickles? Do you remember? I don't.

I don't at all. Anyway. I don't remember this conversation or many conversations really. It inspired my childhood best friend, Michael Hoffman. He doesn't care at all about Star Trek, but he listens to the beginning of our show sometimes. And he caught that and sent us each a jar of pickles. And I thought we should honor that pickle conversation by trying these out on the show today.

Is it your thinking that this is going to be a recurring segment, a pickle Marin, if you will? Yeah. Do you like pickles? I think they stink. Are these kosher? I love pickles! Pickles! Pickles.

Conspicuously crunchy. Pickles on the side. I'm crazy about pickles. I'll say I'm looking for a pickle. How about two six? Okay. I'm crazy about it. I'll say I'm walking over a pickle. How about two six? Okay. Who wants a pickle?

Pickles! I want pickles! Pickle John, everybody wants to open a pickle John. I don't hate the idea of a pickle, Marin. I feel like that could be a thing on the game of Buttholes, if we could find a way to to tie it back into the show. I have very specific pickle tastes and pickle disinterest. Yeah, you're not, you eschew the sweet pickle. Am I right? I do.

In all its forms. Even in like a daikon radish at a Korean restaurant form? No, no, I like those. I think that's fun. I guess what I'm saying is like, I'm totally down to eat a bunch of pickles on our show. But if this starts getting into like all pickles are good pickles, let's celebrate the pickle, let's enjoy sweets as well as dills or whatever, I might just quit the show. I couldn't do that. Yeah, I'm a hardline dill.

I like a bread and butter pickle on like a hamburger or whatever. Because I don't usually put ketchup. So that can be like the one little bit of sweet in my flavor palette on my burger sometimes. Yeah. I don't know. That doesn't work for me. When you go to Chicago, do you not get the neon relish on your dog? I do, but the offset that the sport pepper and the celery salt and all the rest of it does to that, it kind of knocks down that aspect in a way that works for me. Yeah, I don't know how to play this because I'm so used to being the one with the toxic food takes that

nobody wants to be anywhere near that like when you have such an obviously wrong food take, I'm a little bit at sea. Yeah, I think it might surprise you how many FODs feel the way I do in comparison to how many FODs ever feel the way you do about a food digger. But Ben, for the longest time, I thought you had stolen my jar of pickles. Pickles sent from your childhood friend, Michael Hoffman, a friend who I also have a text relationship with who texted me separate from you to say, hey, has Ben given you the pickles that I sent? And I was like, hey, Michael, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Ben didn't say shit.

So I've been harboring a kind of like, what the fuck, Ben, have you done with our pickles kind of resentment over the last few weeks? And I'm really glad that we're able to make it right. In my defense, they just showed up at my house and I didn't, you know, it was just two jars of pickles in a box and I was like, oh, these must be some delicious pickles for me. And there was no communication of give the other half of that to Adam. Sure, I'm the one that gets in trouble

when foodstuffs are left on my porch that I just consume without question. Look at you. Oh, these are all for me. They got to be. No mistakes here. I saved the second jar just in case you didn't get a similar shipment. That was right to do.

And I recently transmitted it to you. So this shipment came to you without a note, without anything. It was a box with two jars of pickles in it. It was a box with two jars of pickles from the company that sells these pickles. Epic Pickles out of York, Pennsylvania. Did we get different kinds? I got garlic dills. Yeah, that's what I got as well. I got a note about the name. This seems like some real modern edgelord,

kick you in the dick pickles. Like pickles so pickly, it'll fuck your shit up. Like when you call something epic and then out of the other side of the mouth, you categorize them as mild garlic dills. We'll just see what you got in the jar here. Epic Pickle Company. Yeah. Well, I think we should give these a try and see if they live up to the name.

One time, Michael Hoffman sent me a selection of peanut butters from his favorite peanut butter company. I called him up and I was like, holy shit, I have never tasted peanut butter like this. What the fuck? I didn't know that it could be this way. And neither is your dog. And he was like, congratulations now,

you will only ever want to buy $11 jars of peanut butter. And I then went to the website of the company that made that peanut butter. And sure enough, a kingly sum asked for a jar of that peanut butter. The first hit is free. Ben, one observation I have about this jar of pickles is that it is absolutely full of stuff.

Yeah. You look at the brine and it's got whole garlic cloves in it. It's got peppercorns. It's got leafy herbs, which I'm going to guess is dill. Yeah. It's got the seeds of the of the cucumbers. I like saving my

pickle juice For other pickles. Yeah, like you can fix a pickle that you don't like by sticking them in juice that you do I've I've found this out through experimentation My wife's mother keeps pickled brine that she got from like a pickle place in the Lower East Side, like one of those pull the pickles out of a big wooden barrel on the sidewalk kind of places. And she gets, you know, regular ass store pickles

and puts them in that brine and it tastes great. The mother brine. Yeah, it makes a ton of sense. Also, you know this, maybe some FODs don't, marinate your chicken in pickle brine. Yeah, it makes a ton of sense. Also, you know this, maybe some FODs don't, marinate your chicken in pickle brine, especially before breading and frying it. It's a fantastic thing to do to your poultry products. All right, I'm pulling out a wedge.

I'm gonna pop it on Mike. Oh. That's satisfying, right? Yeah. I thought this was full of spears, but look at, did you get this on top? Yeah, there's a little handful of chips on top. You could make like one hamburger with the amount of chips you get. What is this, a hamburger for ants?

You're going spear, I'm going to go chip. Okay. Lechaim. Cheers. That is a nice pickle. The flavor's there. I like the flavor. No crunch though. You're not getting crunch? It's not crunchy enough.

I got good crunch on my spear. Maybe I gotta get a spear instead of the little disc. Oh yeah, the disc is less crunchy. All right, I'm gonna go for a spear. I wonder why that is. Oh yeah, the disc is less crunchy. Alright, I'm gonna go for a spear. I wonder why that is? Yeah. Spear is crunchy. The chip is not.

What a nice gift this was. Our thanks to Michael Hoffman, if you would like to send us pickles. And by now, I think you're fairly certain of what our specific pickle tastes are. I'll eat anything. Bring it on. Get in the DMs, contact Bill Tilly, and if you are so generous, maybe send some jars to Bill and Wendy and Rob and all the rest. I think... That would be tremendous.

I don't want to make any of our production team feel bad for missing out on Pickle Time. Yeah. Adam, we find ourselves in a bit of a pickle on today's episode. Do you want to get into season two, episode seven of Star Trek Enterprise? It's called The Save-All! To Paul is just up late reading. What do you think this is? You think this is like a novel or is this like Surak talking about the foundations of

logic or some shit? Vulcan hentai is just a bunch of symbols going into the holes of other symbols, you know? Like typography nerds really get off on this. Like I'm sure there's a name for like, you know the G that's not like circle and hook, it's like circle and lasso underneath? Right, right. You want to just put an I in that lasso, don't you?

I've heard that Klingons get particularly horny around that one, because they're seeing two holes, you know. I mean, you want to take a capital H, stick it in that lowercase g. You know what I'm talking about. Really spread that lowercase g out, you know. That's typeface action, isn't it? You like that lowercase g, don't you?

You know, lowercase g put its ass in the air presenting. No one likes getting interrupted during reading time, Ben. No, it's extremely annoying. You're trying to wind down for the day and you're clearly, clearly like in getting ready to go to sleep mode and somebody hails you and it's like, what are we doing about, you know, picking that stuff up at the hardware store tomorrow? Who's going to go? And it's like, oh, do we have to plan this right this fucking second? Anyways, this is a lady on the phone who tells T'Pol that they've located Manos.

Manos is less than three days from their current location and T'Pol is very interested in this news and would like to be reassured that they're positive that this is Manos. Holy shit. The Manos? Oh, oh man. That's exciting, you know?

You know, in certain cultures and languages, they just call him Hands. That's like a fun gangster name, you know? Like if you were in Goodfellas, you'd get like Johnny two times and then you'd get Hands. Right, yeah. Cause he would be the guy who stole stuff. Sure.

Or he'd cut off people's hands. That's probably better, isn't it? I like that Simpsons character, Hands Mole Man. Mm-hmm. I do too. Who doesn't? He's good, right? Drinking has ruined my life.

That's our cold open. That's all we get for the cold open. And when we come back, to Paul approaches Archer, who is like, I've never noticed this part of the captain's mess, but there's like a there's like a single, you know, like most restaurants have like two tops and four tops. And then like if they have a bigger group, they'll push a couple of four tops together or whatever.

They don't usually have the the the wonders, you know, for the the lonely guys that want to come in and have a nice restaurant meal and read a book. That's a pretty exciting idea. The idea of the single seat out in the middle of the restaurant. I mean, it's obvious that's what the bar is for, but God, what a flex. Yeah. Yeah, he is, he's having his breakfast toast in there and she comes in and she's like, Hey, so your boss is going to call you about a thing. And when he does, he's going to tell you that I need a shuttle pod and a pilot and I'm going to be off the ship for three to five days. So this is just me warning you that that is going to happen.

This is just me warning you that that is gonna happen. The most interesting thing about this scene to me is the power imbalance. Who has the power in this scene and how it gets traded in the conversation? Because the scene starts with that energy of like a kid telling a parent, the principal is gonna call you about something that happened at school.

So be ready to hear this. But instead it turns into the energy of like, I know more than you, the captain of the ship I serve on and you should expect that this is going to come. And also everything that I tell you isn't really an option. You need to permit me these supplies and the time to do this thing. This is not something that Archer finds agreeable, I think emotionally on any level. He is such a little bitch about FOMO in this scene. He wants to know everything. Where are you going, T'Pol? Why can't I go? You're talking to Admiral Forrest without me? What are you talking

about? After so many trust building moments between these two characters, a really blunt reminder that she is also sort of a babysitter. While she is technically under him in the rank structure of the ship, she is there to keep an eye on him. And when the Vulcans tell Admiral Forrest to jump, Admiral Forrest is gonna ask how high, 10 times out of 10. And that trickles down on Archer. And yeah, she's like very tight lipped about this. It's a matter of security as far as she'll go in describing what she's even going to be doing.

And he is clearly very hurt. Thanks for being so enlightening. Dismissed. We cut over to a McLaughlin group. Issue one. It's a strange McLaughlin group because nobody has been read in on what this highly classified mission even is. Like Archer didn't get much more from Admiral Forrest

than he got from T'Pol, it seems like. So he's just telling the crew like, yeah, so T'Pol's gonna be off the ship for three to five days, and we've gotta park it in this one-star system and figure out what to do with the time. Must have been a really difficult decision to let the Admiral Forrest footage hit the cutting room floor. I mean, anytime you have the chance to include a sexual icon,

Starfleet Admiral Forrest, you gotta believe that you wanna do it. Von Armstrong is a name that I could see being that of a hunk of the year type, you know? Especially if it's spelled V-O-N. I feel like that's sturdier, more target. Yeah. So they discuss a few different ideas for what to do with the time.

And, uh, Mayweather finds out he's going to be the pilot on this one. Did you get your hopes up here for anything at all that might be Mayweather related? Any aspects that would help us get to know this valued crewman? It would have been an interesting version of the episode if it had just been T'Pol and Mayweather doing the A-story and having to talk to each other about it at all.

I mean, not, not to cut to the end, but like, if this episode begins with T'Pol's feelings about offing a guy during a mission when Mayweather's got to do that, I would have loved that. It would have been a very interesting version. Cold weather gear, restraints, phase pistols. That's all anyone knows about the sort of mission ahead. Like, you know, there's like the screenwriting advice

of like throw away the first 15 pages you wrote and start the movie there. This kind of felt like that, you know, like to Paul saying what she's gonna need for the mission. It would have been a really fun place to drop in at. Well put, yeah. Because, like, we already know that Archer's big mad about this, and that's what the next scene is about also.

It's just Archer sitting in his quarters, being a sulking little baby, and tool coming in and confronting him about that. It's the way that he's mad that I have a really hard time with. Like, no one is surprised that the Vulcan High Command keeps information close to the vest.

To the robe. Need to know basis is really what they're all about. Right. I don't get what Archer thinks he's achieving To the robe. Need to know basis is really what they're all about. Right. I don't get what Archer thinks he's achieving by making T'Pol feel bad about the circumstances that everyone has already agreed with. Like this is the way things are.

Yeah. I'm with you, Ben. A lot of people don't think things be the way that they are, but they do. Anyways, yeah, she talks to him a little bit about the backstory here. She used to be a security officer way before she was a science officer. And there is a place called Agaron that is like a planet that the Vulcans are now pals with, but that wasn't always so, because when the Vulcans first met the people of Agaron, their society was super corrupt,

and they contracted with the Vulcan security services to infiltrate all of the corrupt aspects of their society and like, decorruptify them so that they could get their shit together as a society. Which is kind of like a concept that we've heard before, right? Like the episode where they picked up that Vulcan ambassador and she was super chill, Fanula Flanagan. Yeah. T'Pol seems to have lived many past lives.

This may or may not have been the mission where she learned how to dodge, dodge, roll. I was expecting to see some of that this episode. I love a dodge, dodge, roll. Yeah. But anyways, like the, it was like hundreds of agents that were dispersed throughout the society with their Star Trek loaf alterations so that they would blend in. so that they would blend in and they all eventually were disinfiltrated and went back to the Vulcan

home world, except for a handful of holdouts. That's such a fucking Scrabble word. Like, I'm going to put dis in front of infiltrated. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I challenge. That's a, that's a word, right? There were a couple of people that held out and became fugitives.

And T'Pol was in charge of rounding up six of these people who decided not to be Vulcans anymore, but to continue their assumed identities as Aggaronians, I guess. Hmm. Aggarites, who knows? She got five of the people she was supposed to grab. This is the sixth that she is going to go get.

And she would like Archer to tag along for the mission secretly because she feels like she needs someone that she can trust on this one. And it ain't Mayweather. Just like being back in the womb. Who are you? Ensign Travis Mayweather. Parents must be very proud.

When I was a kid, we called it the sweet spot. Who are you? I'm the helmsman. I guess growing up a boomer has its advantages. And your mom? Very proud. When I was a kid, we called it the sweet spot. Who are you? I'm the helmsman. I guess growing up a boomer has its advantages. And your mom? Very proud. That's true. Takes practice.

Other than keeping Ensign Mayweather up at night, I'm not sure what we expect to accomplish here. Does this moment in some way make Archer's negging work out? Because on the heels of all of the shit that he has thrown at her, for her to go like, I'm gonna need you on this one, Cap. I'd prefer it if you were involved because I trust you. After being an absolute dick to him throughout, it just, I don't know. I don't know, Ben. It makes me bang my head against the wall is what it does. And I'm wondering if after seeing a polo ball being manipulated in this scene, you aren't up for banging your head against the wall. When we play another

game of polo, polo, or boy-o. I told you, best sport in the world. One part basketball, one part swimming, one part wrestling. I didn't know it was such a rough game. Oh man, I didn't even see that coming. I guess it makes sense. There was water polo on screen in this episode.

Very exciting sport. You should learn more about it. It's the hit trivia game within a podcast, Ben, that asks one simple question. Are we talking about polo, the water sport, polio, the chicken, or polio, the disease? In a special, fun variation on the theme, Ben, I will ask you three questions.

Okay. Each question will have an answer. That answer will be either polo, poyo, or polio. This feels like it's going to be easy. Just, just for the record. I'm putting that up top. Listen to your confidence as the guy who has biffed every single game of this that we've ever played. All right, all right.

Let us begin. First question, which of these is most associated with the post-serial company? Polo, the water sport, polio, the chicken, or polio, the chicken. Or polio, the disease. Mmm. Okay. So, like, I'm trying to remember

if Wheaties ever had a water polo person on the box and also whether that's a post or like a General Mills. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Oh, you know, I'm thinking about like, crusting a chicken breast in cereal, and, uh, you know, making a...

Wiener Schnitzel kind of thing out of that. What do you call it? Krusty breasts. Milanese, yeah. Love them. Uh-huh. Or polio. I mean, this is a, you know, transnational organization. Maybe they had some kind of like health thing,

the initiative that they did back in the day, back before, through vaccines. We beat an entire disease. What a concept. All reasonable possible answers. I'm just stuck on the idea of using a breakfast cereal as a breading, because I do it with like crunched up pretzels sometimes, but. Oh, I've never dipped breasts in pretzels. You gotta try it. Which is what you're saying that you enjoy doing.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay. I'm gonna go with pollo. Wrong! Gah! The answer is polo, Ben, because the Post family, all of them, were major polo enthusiasts and patrons of the sport. No kidding.

Yeah, how about that? Emily and all the rest of them? All the rest. Question two. The Hawaiian style of this gained popularity in the 1950s. Okay. The answer possibilities are polo, the water sport,

poyo, the chicken, or the disease known as poyo. I mean, like, tiki culture was ascendant in the 50s, so I could see, like, some kind of Hawaiian preparation of chicken being something that went along with that. But I feel like that's just like teriyaki or something. And while the Hawaiian people are excellent at water sports, but with their invention of surfing, I don't feel like there's a great way of sectioning off the ocean in a way that would engender a sport the way water polo is played.

I'm going to say- See you, just in yourself a knot. Like the disease under went some kind of metamorphosis that was originally endemic to the Hawaiian Islands and then got out. Right a like an iron lung with like an outboard little float next to it. Which is an iron lung painted with like beautiful tropical flowers Hey, that's gonna help you feel better, right? So I'm going polio wrong What the answer is?

Pollo been referring to teriyaki style chicken. It was teriyaki chicken Yeah, you should have gone with your first instinct on that one. I thought the Japanese had invented that. Yeah, not the case in my research. Okay, wow. Which was extensive. Okay. Final question Ben. This activity was most popular in the summertime. We're talking about playing polo the water sport, eating polio the chicken, or catching polio the disease. Well, I mean, I think a lot of people caught polio the disease from swimming pools, so

could be that. Eating chicken, I mean, cookouts, fried chicken. I mean, it does feel like a summery pursuit. The way that dark meat is stews and steaks and sitting inside a dark room with a white tablecloth kind of a vibe. Sitting inside an iron lung, getting down on a plate of chicken.

Yeah. I feel like when I see water polo, it's always being played inside. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Like indoor pool kind of chicken. Yeah. I feel like when I see water polo, it's always being played inside? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Like, into indoor pool kind of energy, so... I think I'm gonna go polio again. I'm going to the judges here. Okay. Okay.

Six of them are nodding yes. Ding! Ben, you are correct. Wow! You've gotten an answer right. Peak polio season was in the summer, and it was often spread in public swimming pools. Yeah.

So catching polio. Very popular. Correct answer by Benjamin R. Harrison, which means he has answered correctly one out of the three questions in today's game of Polo Boyo or Polio! I didn't know it was such a rough game. I told you it was going to be easy as fuck. I believe that's your best score ever.

Easy as fuck. Anyways, Archer agrees to go on this mission, even though she won't tell him much more about it. We learned from her that Manos became rich because his job was to infiltrate like a smuggling operation that specifically was smuggling webs. We've got to have webs. He's the key. And specifically bio weapons. Now he's super rich and he's used all of his vast wealth

to try to stay a couple of steps ahead of the Vulcan security people that would really love to grab him and bring him back in. She got really close to nabbing him one other time and it was on Rysa. Do you feel like with the lifespan of Vulcans, the statute of limitations on some crimes is just fucking crazy? Like add a zero to whatever they are at our culture.

Yeah, that's only fair. Yeah. In a corridor on the way to the shuttle pod, Archer throws the keys to the ship to Trip. It's like, hey, you're the acting captain now. Look at you. And anything even remotely associated with this mission, you can't tell anyone. Do not tell anyone what's going on here. And it's not like Tripp even knows enough to say. He's just as in the dark as anyone who would ask. Pete I do feel like that has to undergird some of Tripp's inability to act running through the

rest of the episode, right? Like, not really being sure where he stands as he's being left in charge, uh, feels very unmooring. And, uh, we head down to this planet and it's a snow planet and we're in a bar. First place you go on snow planets, almost always bar. And it's full of all kinds of rowdy, loafy aliens. They're poking around for this guy that they're there to chase. And Mayweather just kind of gets left to watch the door and that hopes that that's the only way out of this criminal's hang.

I mean, you sort of forget about Mayweather a number of times this episode in a way that is unfortunate. I mean, I think it's good here because of the way this scene unfolds. Like they're starting to look for him and DePaul sees his reflection in a thing. And I thought there was really good choreo when like she turns around and then there's this kind of shuffle where people are bumping into her and he disappears and is like hiding under tables and stuff. This is a restaurant that is absolutely full of Loafy aliens and Bruce Davison. Like there is no, you know how sometimes like it's been fashionable to have like a giant hood

and not just a useful hood for weather. There is no hood size big enough to cover up a Bruce Davison and obscure him in a way that's effective to keep him hidden in a place like this. Yeah. He really stands out like a sore thumb. Yeah. There's a lot of shuffling about and him getting lost in what is not a very big crowd, but I thought they did a great job of making it very plausible that they were losing track

of him in this room. It feels like a very full restaurant. Yeah. Archer jumps up on a table to get a better view of the space and gunfire breaks out and all kinds of chaos is going off in this restaurant. And it is Mayweather who we've forgotten back over by the door who slips into the crowd and grabs Bruce Davison and gets him down.

They cuff him and perp walk him out of there. And that's the end of the episode, Ben. Great success. Yay. I'm wondering what's going on on Enterprise absent its captain and first officer. We find out in the dining room, the captain's dining room,

where Tripp Tucker is acting like a kid who got left home alone for the first time. He has invited Dr. Flax and Reed to eat with him and they can get anything they want. TripTucker has gone ahead and ordered for them though. Yeah. Bangers and mash for you and the nobile sausage for the doctor. Very nice.

They got them beers. That's fun, right? He wanted them to watch some some water polo with them. And it's very uneasy hang like, do you ever see the lonely island video, just two guys and we're having a good time? Yeah. That's the energy here. They are not quite sure what to do with their arms. These are not people that just go hang out with each other on a regular basis. Yeah. I mean, God, imagine inviting Reed to any hang at this point. Flox tells Trip about this virus that he's detected circulating on board, and he'd like to inoculate the whole crew. Trippp's a little bit of an anti-vaxxer, so he's like not ready to just give a full-throated

endorsement to this plan. Because the side effects are injection site discomfort and explosive diarrhea. Oh, I thought that that was the side effects of the disease. I was like, yeah, like let's fucking for sure inoculate against the poops. That is not how I read that scene. Yeah, so he chooses against certain diarrhea.

Yeah. In a way I kind of understand. I hate to be responsible for giving the crew the runs. Okay, that makes more sense to me. I thought that this was just him being like completely unable to make even the smallest, most obvious choice. But yeah, because it's like, I don't want to make a call on that.

I don't want to make a call on whether we're powering down the warp core to recalibrate the torpedoes. I mean, that seems like an easy no in retrospect because who gives a shit about anything we do with the torpedoes? They don't work. Let me get back to you is the refrain that TripTucker has for all requests of this type. Yeah. Hoshi lets him know that the Vulcans are very keen to speak to Archer and yeah, he just keeps kicking every can he comes across gets kicked down the road.

I don't hate this, especially with how little information he has about anything. This is a poor job of delegation by Captain Archer here before he leaves. Sure. He really didn't empower his employee to do anything. Set him up for failure is what I think he did. Either he completely empowered Tripp or he didn't empower him at all. Like it doesn't really feel like it's been well defined. And back on the planet after the most successful fugitive pursuit in history,

they have taken this guy to the harbor master. The harbor master like looks over their paperwork and is like, yes, you do have the legal authority to extraordinary rendition this guy off planet. Unfortunately, we just started de-icing the landing pad and it's coated in acid and that acid won't neutralize for the next four hours. So you better hang out. And they're like, well, what about our prisoner?

And he's like, not my problem, guys. Ben, this is like, you know, sometimes you watch Family Feud and one of the questions is like, how did they even have eight top answers to a question like this? Like for the question, how do you keep T'Pol, Mayweather, Archer, and their fugitives stuck on this planet? I feel like if I had guessed cover the launch pad with acid, you would get buzzed. There's no fucking way that's one of the top eight answers. And yet this made the list. Blocked in by much larger spacecraft.

Yeah. Show me. Show me a mechanical issue with shuttle pod. Can't take off. Show me exorbitant docking fee that was not advertised at the beginning. Show me everyone in the bar recently inoculated with the vaccine that Dr. Flax mentions up on the ship and is now sick with diarrhea and can't travel.

See, that's a long one. That's like a big double height one. Yeah, you can see it on the board that that's a really big answer. Good answer. It makes a whooshing sound when it rolls over. Yeah. So they're like, OK, we're going to take him back to the bar and like tie him up.

And there's this kind of offhand comment about how this guy works alone. And suddenly we're in this weird yellow flashback, kind of like pickle Brian colored flashback to Paul chasing this dude, Manus. We see effects choices related to memory all the time. Lots of fun colors and transitions and music and treatments given. given, where does through pickle Brian measure to you as a way to convey confusion or the accuracy of a memory or whatever? Because by calling attention to this, what I'm saying is you see this effect very rarely in a way that makes me suspicious.

Right. Like, I don't know that we can trust any of this, right? Like, it kind of, in a Star Trek context, it could be like weird simulation. Like, kind of reminds me of like Tom Paris remembering doing a murder over and over again in that way. Riker abducted by clicker aliens. You're referring to when he got schizomed? I am, yeah.

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Ben would rather die. So they're talking to Manos back in the bar and he's like, I'm not a smuggler. I'm a nice guy. I'm a family man. Like, the only reason I'm getting arrested right now is because the Vulcans can't handle one Vulcan not wanting to, like, do their Vulcan bullshit anymore. Can you blame me for running?

I just wanted to live a different life and, like, that shouldn't be a crime. I at one time worked with bad people, but I don't anymore. Yeah. I'm fine now. Not only that, I'm a girl dad. Tin man. Check out the enormous hollow puck of pictures that I keep on my person every single day,

and like they reach in and pull out this puck. This puck is like an ashtray in a Vegas bar in the 60s or something. It is absolutely enormous. Extra, extra big. Yeah. This is the sort of thing you want to wear in a chest pocket to protect you from a bullet. Maybe it does double duty as that. It's got pictures of his family and a digital copy of the Bible. He does that thing where he's describing his job, but he's describing his job in a way that makes you feel sorry for him. Like, yeah, you know, all I do is

traffic and spent warp injector casings and you know what exposure to those do over the long term. And he kind of looks out from the middle distance like, oh geez, guy, really? Wow. You don't meet a lot of aged injector casing haulers is a thing that is said. It's like, what are we talking about here? I'm supposed to retire this year. I got my last haul coming up and then I get to go home to these sweeties. Hopefully I don't have too much ionizing radiation damage that I won't be able to at

least make it to their 18th birthdays. He does that thing like with the story though, which is like, he does not say that what DePaul is describing him as isn't true or wasn't true at one point. Like, look, they told me to go home. I didn't go home. I understand that's bad, but that's all I'm guilty of. And T'Pol cannot deal with this. To say that she's like bad copping in this scene, I think is accurate because like she goes at him with a knife and you think she's going to like bury that knife in his birdie or something, but no, she's like slashing at some seatbelt material and wraps it around

her boots because evidently the straps on these seatbelts are acid proof. And by wrapping her boots in this material, she goes out into the cold, walking on the acid covered runway, heading for Maynos' ship, which she believes to be filled with weapons. Everybody knows that seat belts are acid proof, you know? Yeah, that's like the main thing about seat belt restraints.

Yeah, and she goes like, she gets right on board his ship. She must have jimmied the lock or something. I think this is the sort of planet you just leave your shuttle unlocked on. Yeah. Yeah. It just seems like a nice place. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so she's like in there and she's like remembering more of this memory. And there's some like, there's some scenes where it kind of seems

like she's like being held down on a table and getting like attacked or assaulted or something. Yeah. It's getting scarier and weirder, but she just like finds a bunch of barrels of, uh, of spent warp injector casings on this ship. She's thorough too. She doesn't just like open the trunks and see a top level of these casings on this ship. She's thorough too. She doesn't just like open the trunks and see a top level of these casings.

Like she grabs a piece of metal and kind of stirs around Yeah, yeah. In these boxes. I like that detail. Yeah, it's like when like the loaf of bread is delivered to the prison, they cut it in a few places to make sure that a file wasn't baked into the middle of it.

Oh, she is so disappointed. Like as emotive as T'Pol could ever be. That's what she is here. She gets this name in one of the memories, Josen, and it's Maynose yelling to Josen, we don't know what this means. And we cut up to the entrepreneur where Trip and Hoshi are having a conversation about what do the Vulcans know about us?

He's asking a bunch of questions like, has this guy been to Earth? Has he ever seen a picture of Captain Archer? Is he going to buy this? Because Trip is dressed up in a captain's uniform with captain's pips and is going to attempt to give this Vulcan captain the impression that he is in fact Captain Archer because it is now weird that he hasn't responded to the hails of this Vulcan ship. Love Tripp Tucker wearing a four pip uniform here. Yeah. Oh, captain, my captain. It's pretty great. It turns out that this urgent message that the Vulcan captain was supposed to

get to captain Archer from Admiral Forrest at fleet command is that Cal beat Stanford seven to three. Do you think that that's in polo or is that in football? That's a great question, Ben, because it is now time to play our second round of... Come on. We can't do another one. Those are growing more and more difficult to create. I don't envy the challenge you've made for yourself.

There is just not a lot of polo trivia to be had. Well, there's plenty of polio trivia. Sure is. Tripp gets off the phone real quick, and we cut back to the planet, and DePaul is back from her jaunt across the acid-y landing pad with the bad news that Maynose may not be fibbing about just being a lowly injector hauler.

Do you believe him here? I mean, it's such an interesting moment in the episode because he has really done a great job of selling that he is a normal man. What do you mean, normal man? He's just an innocent man. You can't overstate the work that a Bruce Davison does in these moments. He reads as very credible. And also you're trying to do the math of like, why is DePaul so jumpy around this guy? And why are the memories pickle brine colored

when they could be just merely black and white? Like We've said this before, green means bad It does mean bad In Star Trek, green is coded for bad guys or bad memories. Yeah, so she's like, I got to speak to this guy by himself. Can you guys clear out? And so Mayweather and Archer just go to the other

side of the bar and so Paul starts asking him questions. He wants to know who this Josen guy is and it's like, I liked the way the scene was written in retrospect because it's like a question that makes zero sense to him when she asks it. Like, what are you talking about? Pretty great. And he's like, yeah, like, I don't know, you got like bonked on the head by a coconut after I last saw you on Risa, but he was another Vulcan that did not want to go back and rehabilitate his Vulcan-ness. He just wanted to, he wanted to be a chill ass dude with a different kind of facial loaf. This is a moment in the episode where T'Pol has a full blown freakout, like yells at Maynos before getting up and leaving. Where is the take where Archer and Mayweather look at each other like,

Whoa! Did you see that? Vulcans are supposed to do that. Yeah. Like, I wish we had a little more dust on that part of it because these takes, like T'Pol has done this a couple of times this episode, she's spicy as hell and it's unusual and no one describes it as being that way. Yeah.

She totally loses control and it's over this memory of shooting this guy, Josen, like her shooting him specifically, and she doesn't understand the memory. And so she flips out at this guy and then she, instead of attacking him, just goes over to Archer and it's like,, man, I need to talk to you outside because I'm having a bad time here. And when they go outside, she's like, it wasn't six fugitives that I was sent to get. It wasn't six. It was...

seven! You just hit G8. -♪ If you like Kinga, come on out... -♪ Which is another weird tape. You just hit G8. Which is another weird tape. What a strange way she's behaving today. She'd forgotten all about it and what she has dug up is that she went through a Fulara, which is a memory repression ritual that she did. Also name of a great character actor, Fiannula Fularla. Fularla Flanagan.

Yeah. So she felt really shitty and unsettled about the fact that she whacked this guy, Josin. She went to that sanctuary that the Vulcans had the secret listening post built into the reliquary of, and had this ritual done to erase the memory and all of the bad feelings surrounding it. So she could go on being an unfeeling, coolly logical Vulcan. The reason she felt complicated, I guess, is he's like, in the memory, he's like going for a gun and she shoots him and he dies, but she didn't actually know whether or not he was gonna shoot at her. And I guess, Maynos has like really tried to play

that element of it up. Like he was a normal man. We were both innocent men. He wasn't violent. He just didn't want to be a Vulcan anymore. Big bad feelings and she's starting to wonder if that guy was innocent and if maybe Manos is too by extension. But then they hear a noise and they go back inside and the entire bar has been consumed in a conflagration. This is a planet where there is so much snow and ice that they do not stock public gathering places with fire extinguishers.

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Wow. So excited to see one. That's like seeing a celebrity. Did you go up to it or did you leave it alone? Cause in LA you're really supposed to just leave it alone. Yeah, you know, I didn't have the guts to say anything, you know, cause like, I'm sure it would have been flattered if I'd said like, Hey, I really appreciate what you do, keep up the good work.

Yeah. You know, no way. Anyways. We said a little more to Edward James almost when we met him than we did to this POS system. Yeah, Adam and I got invited by a friend of De Soto to go to a play and Edward James Olmos in the lobby of this play,

and Adam had like an extended conversation with him about baseball. Yeah, he's great. It was really cool, he was super nice. Big fan. I couldn't really hear anything you guys were saying to each other because it was loud in the room and I didn't want to like loom over him and lean in because it was like, it's fucking Edward James Olmos.

He's a legend. Yeah. You're, you're self-aware about your looming. Yeah. Yeah. Let's consider it. So, Frank's and Olmos, I couldn't quite get it up to talk to either of them. Yeah.

Yeah. Pretty classic. ["I Can't Do The Parody"] Mano's stating the reason for starting the fire is he would rather burn than go back to Vulcan and be like reprogrammed out of this mission. This does slightly undercut the argument that he's like a humble family man who just has like a dangerous job hauling hazardous waste. What about your family, Manos? Do you think they'd rather you burn?

He's a girl, dad, and a wife guy, but not that much of that. Do you think that they were real? Oh, I mean, that's a fucking huge puck to be carrying around if they're not real. Yeah, they got to be real, don't they? So they go for his ship to see if he's there, but when they go inside, he doesn't appear to be there. And Archer is almost like taunting to Pollyers.

Like he's, he's messing with you and you're fucking losing it, man. Like your emotional even keel has been falling apart since you met that guy. Do you think the reason Archer was such a dick for the first 15 minutes of this episode is to make this moment seem more grounded in their relationship reality, like to appear

not so off-putting because, oh yeah, this is like, they can talk to each other this way. They have this entire episode. Because I think if you just have basic archer from the beginning, this might come off as like, whoa, way over the line, like traumatizing someone who's been traumatized. The other Starfleet captains that we have spent

significant amounts of time with, let themselves lose control emotionally so seldom that it really feels important when it happens. The like one time a season that Janeway will like completely chew somebody out or Cisco or Picard or whatever. Like Archer is so much more fragile than any of those captains in that way. It almost seems like if Archer were buttoned up and professional, you'd be like, God, what's wrong with Archer?

Something, something might be really upsetting him. Is he been replaced with a nub and bug alien or what is this? They're like, we're gonna go mess around, turn on the heater, because it's so fucking cold on this ship. And Archer and Mayweather go up to the bridge and they find this panel that's got something hot under it. And it's a conduit that is running a ton of power that they didn't think would be running a ton of power given that the ship was powered down. And they mess with it and back in the cargo bay, a holographic wall disappears. And it turns out Manos had like a secret hidey hole on this ship, which is another thing that makes me think,

maybe Smuggler. There's something about the composition of Archer holding a Dustbuster with his arm around Mayweather in the pilot seat that made me go directly to the scene in Pulp Fiction where John Travolta is waving around his gun and shooting the guy in the back. I thought the scene after thisp Fiction, where John Travolta's waving around his gun and shooting the guy in the back. I thought the scene after this scene

was gonna be them putting blankets and bedding and stuff on that flight deck in order to operate the ship afterward. I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked up Republican shit. I thought they were gonna blow Mayweather away in this scene. Wow, they were gonna fill Lamweather away in this scene. They were gonna fill Lamar him? Yeah, yeah.

Instead it's the big reveal. Archer and Mayweather get on the scene and they are told to lock themselves in a closet together so he and T'Pol can leave safely. Finally someone shoved Archer in a locker, where he belongs. Yes, and big Starfleet Nerd is an accurate description. They agree to do this, and when T'Pol goes to enter how the code goes, Archer shoves the door open and it flings T'Pol across the room. And then Archer races across the deck to John Woo a couple of phasers that he finds and just goes, Ham on Manos.

Amazing. This firefight doesn't last very long. Manos gives up. He surrenders almost immediately and he's like coming out and they're like, ha ha, you're not so tough after all, are you Manos? And then he slips through a little trap door in the floor and drops down out of the bottom of his spaceship. What? I didn't see that coming.

If this were a video game and you were playing archer, like you'd be looking around the room, like you'd be using your left radio button to like look all around. And then there would be like a flashing triangle at the switch at Maynos' feet. You're like, oh, what's that about? That's interesting.

Why is that one piece of the scenery glowing in that weird way? Yeah. Pretty hard to miss. It's not like Maynos is some sort of Moriarty. He's not like some super brain at all. No. It's just, you He's not like some super brain at all. It's just, you seem like you're a super brain

when your opponent is Jonathan Archer. Yeah. So they are after him really quickly and then T'Pol has this moment where she's like got the gun on his back. It seems like she's gonna like shoot him and he's like, you're not gonna shoot me. And then she's letting him walk away. And Archer has to be like,

T'Pol, like your job is not to be Judge Jerry and Executioner. You're just getting him and bringing him back. Somebody else is gonna do that part. You're not here to like resolve whether he's the bad guy or not. And I mean, if you wanna feel feel a little bit like an executioner, shoot this guy in the back and take him down.

That'll make you feel a little endorphin rush, huh? For the first half of this scene, I was like, did the writers forget about the stun setting? Like, she can just shoot him. Yeah. Right? Shoot him! Of course she does, but I was like,

what's the big holdup here? He is way down range in an interesting and exciting way. Like she pops him from like 30 yards. I don't know how long 30 yards is, but like it seems like a great distance in my mind. It's probably a lot. Yeah. Anyways, turns out this guy did have biotoxins aboard.

Despite to Paul's extensive search earlier, she missed a locker full of glowing bottles of toxic sludge. A refrigerator, you say. Full of limish green beverages. You're thinking Julian Bashir would be interested in what Maynos is smuggling? Think so. I mean. I think very much so.

What do you have to drink or eat to make your pee lime green? Probably a lot of brode, right? That's what brode does. Brode does that, yeah. Yeah. This is a cooler full of brode piss. Maybe if he'd like gotten to stay in the game, like if T'Pol had never apprehended him, because Vulcans are so long lived,

even though he appears to be of a different species, he could have survived to the Deep Space Nine era and smuggled some of his stuff through Deep Space Nine. This would have been a great storyline. Like, oh, suddenly Bashir and Cork are on the same side of an issue because they're like... That's fun. ...trying to smuggle Bashir some yummy, delicious piss to drink.

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. This is great. So he was guilty. Yeah, he was a bad guy after all. Do you feel proven right based on your suspicions or did this come as a surprise to you? I would say at this point it wasn't a surprise, but I liked how long the episode was able to keep the ball in the air in terms of making us wonder whether this guy was as bad as he

was cracked up to be or not. It seems fairly trivial that we end the episode with Archer getting the keys back to his ship from Trip Tucker, who remains curious about what Archer did on that mission. Nothing much is really resolved there, but what happens in a very interesting way is to Paul comes to visit and she's there to reassure Archer that she is okay. She doesn't need a leave of absence. I found it interesting that that was her mission in this scene.

Right. And also to extend the offer of friendship reciprocity. Like if you ever need someone that you can trust the way I needed to trust you, you can trust me is what needed to trust you, you can trust me, is what T'Pol says. Yeah. And do you feel like on a baseline level, that was ever the case?

Like do you think Archer doesn't trust T'Pol? I find her extremely trustworthy, more trustworthy than Archer. But I think that that trust felt a little violated at the beginning of the episode when she was telling him, like, how it was about to go because she had been in touch with the Vulcans and that was gonna mean that Starfleet was gonna be telling him to do something. Right. I like that aspect of it.

And I also liked the way T'Pol is trying to understand why she behaved the way she behaved. She's like, yeah, I think I kind of, even though I didn't remember the stuff that I remembered in Picklebrine later, I think I had like an inkling that I was gonna need someone that I could trust, not just on a like, get my back when someone's shooting at me standpoint, but also, hey, get my back

when I'm having like a really fucked up emotional experience that I'm not really prepared for. Yeah. I love the idea of categorizing memories that you can't really trust or are really sure of as being pickle brine memories. Yeah. That's a shorthand that I can get with.

That's more and more of my memories just in general. Indeed, yeah. Adam, did you enjoy this episode? I wonder if I would have liked it better if, instead of the resolution that puts our characters in the room having the very literal conversation about trust, if you don't just have them report to the bridge and their stations and like knowingly look at each other and get back to work, if that isn't a superior ending to what this is, I think I reflexively prefer

a more ambiguous ending than a let's tie bows on all of it to resolve. I think you can convey this information in a more subtle and satisfying way. And I think the episode as a whole was interesting and I like learning more and more about T'Pol's past as a super agent or whatever, but I think my issues with it have to do with that final scene. I think you don't just get or restore trust by going, hey, you can trust me from now on.

And the other person going like, cool, yeah, definitely. That's not how trust works, you know? Typically, no. I was also just thinking it would have been cool if the final scene had instead been Bruce Davis' character getting out of it, you know, on the Vulcan ship, like somehow like escaping that. It would be so fucking cool. I would have loved that. Well, Adam, do you want to see if anything has escaped into our priority one message? See if we've got any Bruce Davison's in there, Ben. That would be exciting. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel.

Need a supplemental income. Supplemental income. Supp a little. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship. Oh, we got a promotional Priority One message here, Ben. Here's how that goes. Over the last several years, my partner has inured me to the dulcet sounds of your singing. Since then, I have come to enjoy your pod, not just because I love my partner so very much. He is willfully gift-averse. So I plan to get this promo to pimp our own podcasts. If Ben has the time between dad duty, I challenge him to up his game by learning more with other new players of D&D or try something new.

MTA Mage with veteran players warping reality. Wow. So this is in reference to sometimes heroes D&D with editing that reaches to see Wendy's boots and Ombligo del Diablo, where a bunch of lost folks are finding their way together. Are these references that you get as a D&D player, Ben? No, honestly Adam, I'm confused about what the name of the podcast even is.

Sometimes Heroes and Obligo del Diablo podcast. Okay. It's a actual play podcast of the homebrewed Mage the Ascension. All right, now we're onto something here. Now we're onto something. Mage the Ascension is the game. And the show is called Obligo Del Diablo.

All right. All right. Wow, well, it sounds like a hoot. Del Diablo. All right. All right. Wow. Well, it sounds like a hoot. I'll give it a try. I'll try anything once. Ombligo is spelled O-M-B-L-I-G-O. Yeah.

All right, Adam. Our next priority one message here is from Ethan, and it's to Ben and Adam. It goes like this. Just finished a timeline watch of all Trek everywhere and used TGG slash TGT as DVD bonus materials. And suing time jumps between the pod release date made me face the strange parallels that shattered relativity, time ran amok with cause and effect, but now I'm a visionary.

So hey, all good things. Big thanks for adding giggles to my two year trek. Wow. What a cool project. That's a well written P1, Ethan. Yeah. Love the wordplay of that. Very fun. I've long toyed with the idea of doing a timeline order rewatch of Star Trek, but I watch so much fucking Star Trek for work.

I don't know when I would fit that in. Yeah. There's a quality to the memory alpha website that I've encountered on occasion where it'll give you a little pop-up window in the bottom corner. And it'll play clips in linear time of the Star Trek universe. Oh, cool. I mean, you'll go there for research.

And what'll end up happening to me is I'll end up, like, focused on that box, telling the entire story of Star Trek beginning to end. It's amazing that they're able to do that. And a great big project, it sounds like. Yeah. Hundreds and hundreds of hours. Boy, what are you doing with your life, Ethan? Now that I think about it.

Ben, our final priority one message here is from oh, Meshophonius Chefers everywhere. Oh no, they heard the beginning of this episode. And it's to Kev. Here's that message. Even though you eat popcorn every time we watch Enterprise, thereby triggering my mesophonia. And even if you don't believe mesophonia is real,

parenthetically PSA it is. I love you so much. And I'm so grateful that we listened to this pod together. Not anymore. Shout out to fellow sufferer, Nat. Love, nooms. I'm guessing that Nat and nooms are no longer fans of the show. I mean, it's encouraging that the Mesa phones have gathered

each other up together all in one place until we can figure out what to do with them. Probably a smart idea. Yeah. Where they can't be bothered by the things that we do or the sounds that we make. Yeah. If you'd like to talk to us about Misa-phonia or send us a very cryptic message about your podcast, consider doing it by going to maximumfun.org slash jumbotron and booking yourself a P1

today. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda this episode? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda. I had one written down and then I think I figured out what he was supposed to represent over the course of talking about this episode with you.

Cause in the flashbacks in the pickle brine that DePaul is having, there are these scenes where she's like writhing on a bed or something. And there's this like very crustily faced old Vulcan standing over her. Very scary image. And I was like, who was that guy? Why was he attacking her? And I guess I just

like didn't realize in the course of the episode that that was a depiction of the like ceremony that made her forget her memory. Yeah. Like, I don't know why she would be like writhing and seemingly in pain or something during that ceremony. It seems like the opposite of the way a Vulcan ceremony would go. Sure seems like it. But, uh, yeah, it was like, I was like, who the fuck was that guy? So I guess for just kind of confusing me, uh, old ruddy faced Vulcan is going to be my drunk Shimoda. If you could go through a procedure to remove a memory.

If you could go through a procedure to remove a memory, you might be welcome. You gotta wipe the memory of going through the procedure too, right? This is my point. Like the eternal sunshine of a Vulcan mind, ness of this, like they just didn't do a complete job. You gotta wipe and then you gotta wipe the wiper

and then you're done. Seems that way to me anyway. Yeah, yeah. I think you've hit it on the head, Ben. Just the, these Vulcans are supposed to be smart people. You would think that they would know to cover their tracks or something like this. If that was the point,

if the point was removal of the offending memory, you would also need to remove the method of removal. You would think. How are we smart enough to have thought of that, but the Vulcans aren't? Yeah, like, are they just such incurious people that they're like, oh, I've had something removed from my memory.

Don't wonder what that could be. Poor T'Pol is like, Julian Blaylock is acting her ass off in this episode, trying to be like, you know, I was fine. I went through the procedure and then all of a sudden, someone in my life referred to the situation and it absolutely shattered that crazy Vulcan ritual I did. If the mention of the moment is sufficient to destroy what the procedure

is done to you, how good is the procedure? Doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Make it make sense, Ben. If it was a Vulcan ship in Star Trek, the next generation during that episode where everybody wanted to know why Data was lying to them. Yeah. They would have just been like, we don't care why Data's lying to us.

Forget it. Who gives a shit? Incredible. Faith of the fart. Well, Adam, do you want to go over to gach.biz slash game where we keep the game of butt holes, the will of the reichardt quantum leap, and prepare to roll that 100-sided dice while I tell you about season two,

episode eight, the communicator. Is this the history of the Combadge? Give us a bottle episode that's just going to the crayon factory. Oh yeah. On Sesame Street or something, you know? Yeah. That'd be cool as fuck. Wouldn't that be nice? Archer and Reed return to a pre-warp society that is on the verge of war to recover a lost communicator. Wow. Hmm. It seems like a great length to go for a lost tech device. It really does.

But here we go. Let's see if there is a great distance to go when I roll this 100-sided die, Ben. Let's do it. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Oh! We have landed on square 13, which is so, so, so, so, so close to a porthos eight-my-note

square. Too-la! Did I win? Hardly. Narrowly missed it. So, so, so close to a porthos ate my note square. Chula! Did I win? Hardly. Narrowly missed it. Could have been a very strange episode, but as it is, a very normal episode for you and me

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