The Greatest Generation - He’s The Dick & The Rubber (DS9 S5E17)

Episode Date: December 9, 2019

When Odo meets a femme who’s visiting the station, he quickly discovers that she’s more fatale than she appears. But when the crew goes into gossip overdrive, it becomes clear that this woman is j...acking much more than just into computers. What does it cost to bring your own honey stick to Quark’s? How does the categorical imperative apply to coffee shops? Is there such a thing as a Klingon Restaurant Health Inspector? It’s the episode where the edible takes hold. 🖖GET TICKETS TO GREATEST GEN KHAN II: STAR TREK III🖖 Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate
Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecisoto for labor.com. That's friendsofdisoto for labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. This episode was recorded well before we got the sad news of the death of Renee O'Berge and Waw, who in addition to playing Constable Odo on Deep Space 9 had just an incredibly long and successful acting career that included parts like Father Mokehi and Mash and Chef Lewis and the little mermaid
Starting point is 00:02:36 and Paul Lewisden on Boston Legal. He was really, really great and he will be missed. And I think you recorded something like this, not knowing exactly how to put how you feel about somebody that we've spent this much time with, but didn't actually know personally. The death of an actor can be hard to process because an actor's life's work lives on well past the moment they're gone. And in the case of Renee Orbears and Wab, we have several more seasons of Deep Space Nine in which to appreciate his great work. And I'm glad that we do. So yeah, we're just thinking about, you know, everybody that knew and loved him and feeling grateful that we've been able to enjoy his work over the years and we'll get to continue enjoying his work. Among the family Renee leaves behind are his wife and children as well as
Starting point is 00:03:32 a whole lot of friends and fellow actors from through the years who are now sharing some really great and fond remembrances of him. And we definitely recommend you seek those out because they are putting together a picture of a man who was so much more than a great actor. He was by all accounts a great man. Truly. So we hope that everyone who knew him are comforted by his memory and those that didn't know him continue to appreciate his great work as we will long into the future. Renee O'Barrison, while was 79 years old. He'll be missed.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Sorry to open the show on some bad news. And sorry, if we are the bearers of that news for you, weirdly, this is a very odocentric episode that happened to come up today. So if you're still feeling sensitive, totally understood, and this is a very silly episode about Odo as well. So, you know, do with that information what you will. We are sending love to his friends and family and co-workers and... uh... on with the show, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Here's to the primus crew in Starfleet. Engage! New Bencheroops has called the better version of Star Trek Podcast. Deep Space Nine. Welcome to the greatest generation, Deep Space Nine. It's a Star Trek Podcast about Deep Space Nine. A couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek Podcast about Deep Space Nine. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison. It's the first episode we are recording post Thanksgiving. Ben, what are you thankful for?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Oh, man, I'm definitely thankful for this show and the friendship we've built amidst it. I mean, we're friends before, but I think it's... And the ruins of this show, the friendship that we've built. Yeah, I mean, I think the show has inevitably brought us closer. Yeah, how could it not? We're like two podcast hosts stuck in a turbo lift. We've just got to see this thing through.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Choose a corner to be the toilet. This may take some time. Let's not waste it. I'm thankful for the people that make comments about the show online that don't hurt my feelings There's very few of those anymore band You know you you suggested that we get like Five star comments that are questions about the show and then answer those questions on the show Yeah, that'd be a good thing to throw out to the friends of DeSoto
Starting point is 00:06:24 Maybe that's an episode we can record and release later on in December. I'm wondering if we've already suggested it. It seems like something we may have already set out loud. Well, here's the thing. If we have or we haven't, maybe it would be a good idea to restate or not, you and I had come up with a great idea of getting more iTunes ratings because, you know, I think this is a show that could be in the 10,000 5 star rating atmosphere and it's just not. Yeah, no we're close to that.
Starting point is 00:07:00 How do we goose our viewers into more five star ratings? And I think one of the best ways might be to give them something for it. Like the answer to a question. Right. And here's the thing. There seems to have been some sort of interface change on Apple podcasts. And I don't see any way to sort these by recent, recent see. So this could be, this could be one of our classic greatest gen plans that it, that is impossible before we
Starting point is 00:07:35 even launch it. Right. Right. So whether or not this works, we're going to encourage you to go to Apple podcasts. And before you say it, I know not everyone listens to our show via Apple podcasts, but it just so happens to be the easiest way for us to comb through whatever the system is we're going to use for this Q&A. Listen, I know you that out there have strong feelings about what podcast app you choose to use. And that's fine. You don't need to tell us. Yeah, to each their own. To each their own. I'm an overcastman personally.
Starting point is 00:08:12 That's fine too. And bully to all of the people that click the little star in their overcast app when they enjoy an episode of the greatest generation. That's great. So go over to Apple Podcast, leave a five star review. That's crucial. Slightly less crucial, but still almost as crucial, is leave a nice comment and a question that we can answer on the show, and we'll do our best to do that on an upcoming episode in December. Maybe we'll have Rob put on like a radiation proof suit and have him sift through reviews and find a couple that we can answer.
Starting point is 00:08:50 When it's tough to do, ask Rob. That's the saying, on greatest, Jen. Rob is more emotionally stable than either of us right now. Yeah, what makes you say that, Ben? Did you have a difficult Thanksgiving? My Thanksgiving was fine. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm enjoying a Coca-Cola right now because I, I, my fitness goals I was, I was able to see through the Thanksgiving period and, and through to the other side.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So I'm rewarding myself a little cheat day. Hey, that's nice. Yeah. I ended up frying a turkey for the first time. Oh, right. And this was kind of, this was kind of something that got sprung on you, right? You didn't go into the day intending to fry a turkey. Speaking of cheating,
Starting point is 00:09:43 I think the cheat code to turkey cookery on Thanksgiving is most definitely the deep fry. Yeah. And I was on my way to a family gathering where I knew that turkey frying would occur. Upon arrival, I was field promoted to turkey fryer. You're the kind of person that I feel like everybody can feel a lot of confidence in if, hey, if this turkey frying shit needs a captain, like we can field promote Adam to that role and we are not going to be concerned about his competency.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah, but I mean, here's the thing, like the expectation whiplash of, cool, we're not hosting Thanksgiving this year. I'm going to go chill the most somewhere else and bring an awesome side. Yeah, suddenly morphing into Captain of Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's tough, especially when the especially when the edible takes hold. Oh, yeah, did you have jazz gum complications? So I mean, I had never done this before and crucially, did not read about how to do it properly. Yeah. I mean, what I knew was that you were talking about taking a marijuana edible.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah. The joke around the family at this event was boil the oil. And oil's not a thing, the boils, that's the joke. Yeah. We got our oil up to too low a temperature clearly. And I, here's the thing, when you're the captain of Thanksgiving, you need to shut out all of the other voices. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And be the captain. A ship cannot have more than one captain. And this was my problem. I put the turkey in before the oil was ready and it resulted in a turkey that was not done. Hence, the double fried turkey that we ended up having. What's great about a double fried turkey is that you let the turkey rest obviously
Starting point is 00:11:44 because I'm no dumb dumb. You let it rest, you carve into it. After taking its temperature and its temperature reading as done, we started the carve, it was clear. Those juices ran not clear. So what we did is we took the legs and the wings and shoved them into the orifice and then and then re lowered the turkey back into the oil. Wow, you made a turduck in out of just turkey.
Starting point is 00:12:17 This is a image I think I sent you. I'm not sure because it is a very fun picture of a Thanksgiving crime. So we lowered the monstrosity back into the oil and all of it's parts fried into each other. So it was. It was a fucking mess, dude. This looks like something that would keep John Carpenter up at night. Yeah, it's a real existence. Looking... Looking turkey.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It was a very cronin' burric Thanksgiving that we had. Turkey tasted fine. The skin, of course, tasted awesome because that's what you get when you fry poultry skin. Sides were awesome because sides are awesome. And I mean, here's the thing. This is something that you and I know very, very well. A late dinner, no matter how good the food, feels pretty unsatisfying when people are expecting a dinner at X.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Right. And you, and dinner hits the table at X plus 150%. So. Yeah. No, that's satisfying. the table at x plus 150%. So, yeah. That's satisfying. I had sort of a similar experience where I did 80% of the cooking for Thanksgiving bird inclusive, and I also got a false pause on my breast. I did the, you know, the probe into the breast and it read is that possible.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It read is done. Well, here's the thing. I got like one of those heirloom breed birds. And it just had really deep breast meat. Like I was putting it in what I thought like deep enough, but not so deep that I was gonna be touching cartilage on the other side. And- No, so deep to put her ass to sleep, if you would. Right, yeah, this bird had an LA face, but an Oakland booty. And I just didn't, I didn't get anywhere close
Starting point is 00:14:18 to the center of the meat when I took its temp. So I was like, oh man, like I'm like, I'm like seven to 10 degrees over right now. That's the thing out of the oven. Yeah. And then when I, you know, I rested it for 15 or 20 minutes and went to carve it. And like you said, I discovered, I discovered I had a medium rare bird. Yeah. It's deeply disappointing in that moment. This is why when Christmas comes around, I only cook a fine fat goose. Oh yeah, that goose doesn't give you that problem.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You can serve goose medium rare, huh? It's not a problem. You can serve goose medium rare. It's like duck. Oh, that sounds pretty good. It's all dark meat. That's a beautiful thing about goose. It's a, you can cook it as long as you want.
Starting point is 00:15:03 It's gonna be good. Or you could like cut off the breasts and sear them and leave the inside raw. And that would be pretty good. Lord, love a duck. So do I. Wow. Well, lesson learned for next year, I guess. A long enough amount of time for us to forget how this Thanksgiving went. Yeah. People are going to be sick and tired of Thanksgiving talk by the time this comes out. Yeah. Well, onto the next one. That's what the advanced 30 seconds button is for.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah. Up until they hear the music that tells them that we are about to talk about. Deep Space Nine, Season Five, Episode 17. It's a simple investigation. What? Do plan and this favor are not simple at all. No. Far from it. No, and that's a big surprise. Yeah. Every time. Here's the thing about the 90s and specifically the late 90s. I don't believe you can costume a person with a garment over their heads without Corn Holyo vibes. Right? Yeah. Yeah. We get a Corn Holyo lofster. He's like asking Siri what time it is. Computer time. I'm sorry. I can't help you with that. And sliding secret items into his sleeves,
Starting point is 00:16:46 but this man obviously needs to teepee for his bunghole. My bunghole will ask the questions. You know what an alt to this alien might be, is that maybe it's not just a garment, like a head scarf or whatever, maybe this alien just has great big traps. Mm, he's like, what's that X-Men guy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:10 What's he called? There's an X-Men guy that's always like running through walls and stuff. Everybody's called. This guy is doing those shoulder shrugs big time, build up the traps. What did you got to do? That's what I learned from someone who came through
Starting point is 00:17:23 the line in Austin, a group of gym charmotors with the GYM spelling. Some guy came through and he had tremendous traps. I couldn't help but come in. Yeah, I did have great big traps. And he's like, hey man, all you got to do is do those shrugs. And I was like, I'm doing the shrugs. I'm not getting the traps. That guy was a trap king.
Starting point is 00:17:47 You know what it got me to do the very next time I went to the gym? I went up a lot of weight on those shrugs. Really? I'm gonna get traps thick. That's what my goal is. Jesus. I'm not gonna turn into a cornholeio though. I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Those traps be too big. What are people gonna think of us when we go on stage? And I have my regular old dad bod, and you're all trapped out. Well, people are gonna think we're trying to just work out our issues in our own specific and personal ways. I guess so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:20 This is a fun instance of what do you do with the carpet after you phase vaporize a guy in their quarters. We see this all the time in Star Trek. Someone gets a phaser set to gore shot at them. Juggernaut, that's who I'm trying to think of. Juggernaut will flatten you. That's right, it is Juggernaut. That guy's got big traps. He's got a hat that just goes out. He's got an up to single on his hat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You need that kind of hat if you got traps. His traps connect above his ears. Now. That's how big they are. Those are two developed. You don't want to fully develop your traps to that extent. The guys got muscles where like Arnold Schwarzenegger would look at him and be like, ugh, gross.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Anyway, shout out to all of our friends in the Jim Shimoda subgenre, working those traps, but not too much. Tastable traps. Tastably trapped that. This guy answers the doorbell and a couple of aliens who look like they may be of the same planet, but maybe a different ethnic subgroup as that guy that Saul Rubeneck is friends with in that episode where data is one of all the toys.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Lulululu. Is the gun one of them has the giveaway for that? I don't know, that gun. Seems like that kind of gun. It's a prototype for a baron tea disruptor. He thought it was set to stone, but it was set to carpet cinch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And like a kid whose parents have left for a vacation and then they've like had a party they need to clean up after, they are like, what do we do about this carpet stain? What do we do now? I thought it would've been fun if they'd gone into his shower and discovered a bottle of conditioner and gone, what is this? I don't think I get that. Because they have such dry, frizzled hair.
Starting point is 00:20:12 All right. They got a condition, Adam. All right. All right. I'm back. I'm back. They got to use that conditioner, especially if you're going to be in an episode like this. Yeah, and these guys, these guys are in a fair amount of it.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. So this cuts to a scene where Bashir walks up to some friends of his in the bar. It's Dax, O'Brien, and Odo, and Bashir whips it out. It. Oh. There's a honey stick of a hollow program program and he starts casting all the parts in this hollow program. They're all generally pretty excited about playing characters in Bashir's Jack fantasy. All of them, but Odo who is decidedly distracted today. It's a real wet hot American summer type vibe. Like why does Odo get so uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:21:06 when we talk about Hollisweat stuff? Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, why does Odo get so uncomfortable when Bashir walks up with a container full of yellow liquid? Might be another question. Is that one of my people or is that more piss? Oh, it's just a honey stick, I see, I see. It's very confusing.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah. He's an excellent investigator. This may be the deep, deep future, but it's encouraging to see how excited people remain about new video game day, right? Yeah. Like a very bespoke sounding video game, right? Like Bashir has a personal relationship with its right? Yeah. Like a very bespoke sounding video game, right? Like Bashir has a personal relationship with its creator.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah. He said it's the most elaborate program he's ever designed. Be like, if you knew the person that made jazz horse and we're like, this is a lot like the old jazz horse, but it's way bigger. You would think that quirk
Starting point is 00:22:00 would have a problem with this, right? Like I would assume that he would want you to rent the video games from him and not bring your own. Is there a honey stick corkage fee at corks? Yep, that's what I think. I really think so, and it's a scene that get cut. Yeah, that would have been nice. I mean, cork, it's a little tiny bit to do in this episode. It's trying to voice some food or drink on a lady that's sitting at the bar, which I think is a very reasonable request on his part. As the proprietor of a restaurant and
Starting point is 00:22:32 bar, you know, every, every seat needs to be generating revenue. This lady's just sitting there free loading. I recently went to a, like, I know you're gonna hate this, but like a little sandwich shop coffee bar place. No place to sit, because every seat was occupied by a laptop or some shit like that. Yeah. I left.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But places have policies against laptops. I didn't order anything, because there was no place for me to sit, it made me very sad. Quark knows better. Like everybody knows I have like much harsher rules for myself about this than the rest of society does. But I won't even look for a seat until I've ordered something at a coffee shop
Starting point is 00:23:17 because I think it's unjust to occupy a seat before you're a customer. I actually totally agree with that. It's one of the few areas of your self-flagulation that I can get with. It's like the categorical imperative applied to coffee shops, but it works for me. I mean, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's just how I choose to live my joyless existence. The lady at the bar that Quark is giving shit to is named Arissa. We'll find out later. And there is some flirtation confusion between she and Odo. In that she thinks he is flirting with her and he is tripping over himself to prove that he's not. He could be forgiven for being drawn to this woman and she could be forgiven for assuming every man walking up to her as one thing on his mind.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Right. She says something very funny in describing him. And that is she describes him as having bedroom eyes. Yeah. If anyone I had ever slept with had bedroom eyes that look like this, I'd be getting dressed pretty fast and getting the hell out of Dodge. I remember distinctly the first time I ever heard that phrase was my student film as directing in college and the lead actress was had to make out with a ninja.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So it was kind of like a simulated make out because the guy had a mask on. And it just kind of like I needed to like I needed to get to a point where I both like we believed that she would actually she was actually actually, like, into this ninja. And she said, oh, I could just do bedroom-wise before we kiss. And I was like, oh, was that look like? And she did it at me. What?
Starting point is 00:25:14 And I was like, whoa, my god. Yeah, that'll work. I always sort of assumed that bedroom-wise was either a thing you had or did not, not a power. To her, it was a facial expression she could put on. It was one of the tools in her acting Swiss Army knife, and it was very effective. See, to me, not a lot about that movie worked, but that scene did. To me, Bedroom Eyes is just that thing where you wake up and you have a pillowcase crease.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Crash your face. Like a big scar. Go to Cartoon. The Cartoon. Go to Cartoon. So, Adam, this lady is played by Day Young, who people will remember from the TNG episode Masterpiece Society. I used to go on the night and night and I'm going on.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Delicious. Yeah, who could forget? She's the scientist that got to go on the entrepreneur and leave her genetically planned community. You know, it's interesting how some faces can be unfamiliar just by virtue of a different hairstyle. And if you look at pictures of both characters side by side, they look like very different people, but some faces, you need love to obscure, to make an actor look different.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And the actor who plays this character is very chameleon-like in that way. You know, all it takes is a haircut for her. Yeah. She looks very different. Her headshot on IMDB, she has red hair and couldn't look more different. I mean, it's a more contemporary picture and she's still working from what I can tell. But yeah, it just doesn't look the same at all. So, Odo is distracted enough to walk into a wall on his way back to the office. And then we pull back to reveal in the wide shot the two traps aliens from the very first scene giving their interaction bar room eyes into show theme song. They're gonna kill her.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah, it doesn't look good. It does not look good for Arissa. In the cargo hold after the theme song, it's Odo and Kira inspecting some items. And this is some Gok trivia here. Gok is transported live, obviously, because it's gotta be consumed that way, but I thought for sure, I thought for sure it would be frozen for transport and then thought.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Oh, yeah, put it in carbonife. That should be safe. Not the case. It's live and we know this because a tentacle is reached out and grabbed Kira. Is it a tentacle or is it one of the gocks? A tentacle, grab my hand. Gocks? She's holding her hand out like, oh, I got tentacled. Is it a tentacle or is it one of the gags? A tentacle, grab my hand. Gag. She's holding her hand out like, oh, I got tentacled. Is are all those gags connected in a bowl of gag?
Starting point is 00:28:12 If gag is strong enough to lift the lid on its container, is it also smart like a cephalopod? Like could it escape and leave? Oh, alright, I know cephalopod they're smart, and leave? Oh, I, all right. I know several of Pods are smart, but don't try and gach shame me. It's delicious, okay? Yum, yum, yum. And then, and then like,
Starting point is 00:28:34 from a food handler's permit perspective, like, is it okay that the gach touched just a random person on its way to your plate? That probably makes it more exciting for most going on, right? Yeah, you probably want it, touching a lot of people. You probably don't want to wash your hands before eating gach. You know, the late great Anthony Bourdain famously wrote that there's risk involved in good eating, you know, and specifically, he related this to oysters, which, you know, can occasionally make you sick.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And you're amazing. And I believe that the Klingons have built an entire cuisine around that premise. This scene with Kira is a representation of everyone's feelings about Odo, which is if there's an opportunity for him to not be alone, he should take it. And so Kira is very encouraging about Odo, which is if there's an opportunity for him to not be alone, he should take it. So Kira is very encouraging of Odo seeing this mystery woman again. Yeah. I was really glad that they didn't write her as the woman that puts male colleague in the
Starting point is 00:29:38 friend zone, but then also doesn't want him to date anyone else. Right. Yeah. also doesn't want him to date anyone else. Right, yeah. Like, I think that that's been a storyline on a lot of TV in a, anyway, that's unfortunate. And, and I like that she was really encouraging of him, you know? Right. I know you're using that term pejoratively too.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like that's like the friend zone isn't real also. Yeah, right. I'm referring to people writing. Yeah, it's a shorthand for what we understand this to be on television shows, for sure. Yeah. So given this little push of encouragement, Odo heads back to his office and is delighted to find that Arissa has been arrested. Yeah. She's been arrested. Rissa has been arrested.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah. She's been arrested. Right? I guess, I guess she has. I guess you have to put it that way. She's arrested for breaking into a computer and that's a thing that you can't do on Deep Space 9 but it's made easier because she's got a poor internet because she's a cyberpunk.
Starting point is 00:30:42 She keeps scratching at this. She's got like a, like a data port, a venereal disease or something, because Odo has designed the data interfaces on the station to cause itchiness, redness, and other forms of irritation to people that might attempt to penetrate his computer firewalls.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Or do you know better than to trust a strange computer? You can't just hot swap into the DS9 computers with your neck nobid. Yeah, you gotta pack a vest for your neck in the city of sex. She's been waiting for someone named Tavid Ram. This is a person she describes as helping her find her daughter, a person that she gave up 15 years prior. So we begin on kind of a sob story for Arissa. Yeah. And the, you know, the, the data port is something that Odo looks on with great skepticism. Like why, like that, that's basically gray market equipment. It should be illegal.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Why would you get it if you weren't doing bad stuff? And the other part of this ob story is that she grew up on Fanea Prime and she is an inherently untrusting person and a person who, you know, has some, some real tough breaks in her past. I mean, this is like straight out of the film, noir, femme, fatale, playbook, right? Like, she goes seem like a pretty fatal femme. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And she's got her mark here too, because Odo strangely eats this up. He's ready to believe her. Everything she says, even though she's committed to crime. In case you'd forgotten, I'm facing charges for trying to break into your computer. All it takes is her bedroom eyes to evoke this feeling from him. Speaking of film noir, it really struck me how straight this episode is shot. And I wondered if there was any temptation to make it more stylistic
Starting point is 00:32:48 in the way of a noir because it really does. I mean, it's a Star Trek is a place episode that uses all the tropes of film noir to tell a story. Yeah. But they don't use the tropes of film noir to light it or unpack the action. I am happy about that choice. I think it makes it a little bit more subtle. Yeah. Yeah. So, Odo takes it upon himself to protect Arissa. He starts by taking her to her new quarters, which is a fun bit of business because as soon as the doors close behind them, he has them transported to his own quarters,
Starting point is 00:33:26 which in any other context would be hella creepy. Yeah. I mean, I think that there are a few times in this episode where Odo's behavior verges into the creepy. Yeah. The idea is that she is in protective custody because the guy she was there to get this information from has been vaporized right but she's also in trouble for breaking into the dead guys locker and finding this chip. I've been following you. I didn't know that's I think that's about when the explanation about the fact that she doesn't in fact have a daughter at all, and her real reason for being there is on behalf of the Orion syndicate. And this is a criminal organization that she would like to leave very badly, but the
Starting point is 00:34:22 Orion syndicate doesn't take kindly to defectors. There's no leaving the O's Indicate when you're in your in for life. She drops this name, this guy named Dreme, as she works for, or is trying to get herself out of working for. Yeah, and she doesn't want to be flushed down the Drain. She admits to you living the life of a kind of a hacker type. She hacks with her body, hacking for money. Yeah. She does what Drain wants her to do.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And this protective custody is a way for Odo to make sure that she's safe. It's be think like Odo could protect her in a lot of ways without just keeping her in those quarters, right? Yeah. You could like put her on a run about. We've seen a couple of shots at the station where there's like a about, we've seen a couple of shots of the station where there's like a Voyager class starship in orbit around it. Like that seems like a pretty safe place to keep somebody away from the Orion Syndicate.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Hey, Wharf, would you mind if one other person stayed on the little D with you? She could even stay on the other side of the ship. Yeah, I'm not gonna make much noise. They do turn up this data crystal that it's just a Macuffin. It's like, what is this information? We're going to have to decode it and find out. And that's part of why the protective custody is just
Starting point is 00:35:57 buying some time while this data crystal, which is very heavily encrypted, is worked over by Dax and O'Brien. This relationship between Arissa and Drain was pretty toxic because while she started out as a cam girl, Drain ended up being one of her biggest clients. And this is a kind of camgurling that made them very close. And then, a dream started using her contacts against them. Like, he would take her contacts and manipulate steel from and kill those people. Pretty dangerous person this dream.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Mm-hmm. And I feel like they do a good job of every time her story changes. You never feel like she was the bad actor in those stories. God, that is such magic here because that happens. I feel like three or four times fairly early on in the episode and you should give up on her if you were, but you just never do. You're like, this lady that works for this criminal syndicate Seems like a bad person. No, no and not only that but like Odo should look fucking dumb
Starting point is 00:37:16 For trusting her and he doesn't look dumb. Yeah, he or at least as dumb as he should He's obsessed with her and he's pretty thirsty too like you keep threatening to have me stripped down an Examined I'm trying not to read too much into that. He starts talking about like I will quit my job and protect you personally so that you can testify against Drem. And she's like, wow, that's like kind of an absurd offer. If it how dangerous that would be. And that's sort of when it comes out that this is something that Odo sees as an opportunity for doing some penance for those moments when he was collaborating with the cardassians where he kind of looked the other way on some pretty severe injustices. She's super blown away by his offer and he's like Look, I I live forever. So it's actually not that big of a sacrifice I've been told I can get my old job back no matter how long it takes to work back to this point
Starting point is 00:38:18 Actually oversaw the execution of three innocent people and still kept my job Now that's job security. I'm really not concerned about it. I can't state that emphatically enough. Anyways, I've got to go ask perhaps the most unlikely character on the show for some dating advice. Bye bye. Right. He basically leaves a conversation with her, it goes directly to the hollow sweets. And this is a great scene because she isn't a moving car.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And Odo is outside of this moving car. What we don't see or hear is Odo fling stoning his legs outside the limo. You don't know how bad I wanted to re-edit this scene with just that pattering of foot sound effect outside the car. Yeah. It's great. There's a, there's a Nicholson Baker novel called The Firmada where this character gets the super power of being able to snap his fingers on freeze time and he mostly uses it
Starting point is 00:39:22 to like write erotic novels and leave them in women's purses, but as you would. Yeah, he's definitely not using it to fight crime or do anything good, but there's one moment where he freezes time while he's on the highway and he looks down and the road is like still blurry and he's like debating whether he's going to like kill himself if he steps on it. Oh, I wondered that. Like in the hola suite, like, is it just giving you the impression that your car is and he's debating whether he's going to kill himself if he steps on it. Oh wow. And I wondered that.
Starting point is 00:39:45 In the hollow suite, is it just giving you the impression that your car is moving, or is that actually moving holograms past your car and under it? What's the thing that's moving? Yeah. It's a good question. But Odo gets in the car, and this is a very season five technology asking Bashir for dating advice. Like he is the last person that you would go to in any other season of this show, but I think makes it credible person for Odo to be addressing these questions too.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Should Dr. Bashir be genetically able to seduce better than most people? Hmm. He can like emit those pheromones that they sell in the back of CD magazines. I mean, either that or if he's been genetically edited to be better than a normal person wouldn't, wouldn't one of the betterments be in seduction? His dad is like talking to the doctor and he's like, what about if he had a great big crank? Free testicles. I just like really nice looking, like beautiful, not lumpy in any way.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Bishir gives one of the great short but powerful monologues that his character ever gives. He makes the case against regret as a concept. He's like, do the thing that's hard because trying and failing is better than not trying and regretting it. And it's great advice. It's great advice for anyone. We choose to go to the moon and disdicate and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
Starting point is 00:41:25 It's the right advice and said well, you know, like there, you know, it's basically no risk, no reward, but also you don't want to look back at all the opportunities that you didn't put yourself forward for. The end of this scene, a eye patched O'Brien peaks his head through the window with a pistol and it's great. What's great about the scene as O'Brien, Pixas head through the window with a pistol, and it's great. What's great about the scene as O'Brien
Starting point is 00:41:47 does not break character. Ever. This isn't fair. Odo and I were talking. Didn't anyone ever tell you, you shouldn't stop for hitchhikers. He's the one that was sort of reluctant about being the bad guy too.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And he's like, if you're gonna make me be the bad guy, I'm gonna be the bad guy full time. So he is. He wants to enjoy himself. Yeah. Odo goes back to his quarters and finds that Arissa is still awake. And he could become a bed probably
Starting point is 00:42:16 if she was uncomfortable with the mattress that he had. Yeah. How firm would you like it? And that could go for the mattress or the penis I create. Why even have a bed if you're me? I mean, really, I've thought about this. I mean, it's a guest bed, but I could be the guest bed, and therefore, wouldn't that just be preferable to anybody
Starting point is 00:42:40 because I can customize it? The sculpture in the middle of my room is actually a fold out Get a lot of this I could be anywhere from 250 to 7,000 thread count up to you The thing about a fold out bed is that it's not a great sculpture and also not a great bed. It's the worst of both worlds. They get down, Adam. God, you just know that Odo can fill her up, right? And she says first, how is it that Odo can't make a plausibly human face but makes totally realistic nipples?
Starting point is 00:43:36 What comes out of Odo when he nuts? Probably a lot. I probably a lot. He asked her like, did I do okay? I think for your first time, it's worth getting it on the table that it's your first time before you start. I think a changeling should have total confidence. He could basically make a vaginal cast inside of her. Like, there is nothing good though.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I don't know. Does he even have to thrust or can his dong like mechanically work it out without him needing to do that? He can just turn himself into a Sibian. God, he really could, couldn't he? Changelings have to be the best lovers in the universe. This made me wonder, like, she says he was like,
Starting point is 00:44:33 he was good at it. It makes me wonder, like, has he practiced in the hollow suite? I wonder if they ever toyed with the idea of her being just fucking blown away by his sexual prowess. Like, totally worked out. Like, woohoo! Holy shit! Like, Odo, I do not believe you because, whew!
Starting point is 00:44:59 Mama wrecked. I read a fun bit of trivia about the scene, which is that Renee Avershanva shaved his body for the scene. Yeah, I believe it. Dolphin shape. Speaking of Jim Shimoda, looking pretty toned in the scene, good for him. Yeah, it does look good. Do you think that they put, like, foundation makeup on his body? Oh, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:45:24 To, like, smooth it out? Yeah, you know what, and I bet you could get away, that's a good question. To like smooth it out. Yeah, you know what, and I bet you could get away with that in a pretty great way because of his face, right? Yeah. When this thing about being a changeling is no refractory period, right? Does he come? Like does he experience sexual release?
Starting point is 00:45:44 They should have had him do this when he was human. Like when he had a human body. Yeah. Too many unanswered questions like this. The reverie he's in is very believable, right? Like he seems to have enjoyed this almost as greatly as he enjoyed the golden handshake. He's got bedroom eyes and pillow talk to go with.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Too bad I'm not a change lane. Oh, we should let that stop us. Back at ops, Kira and Dax are gossiping. They know what's going on, and so does everyone else. Yeah, Wurf is pissed that he knows what's going on. Do you think, do you think everyone on the station knows because they heard it. He let it go after so long, he was so pent up.
Starting point is 00:46:35 O'Brien's like, oh, I'll be working on the plumbing for weeks after that. You're not supposed to throw the rubber in the toilet, Odu. He could self rubber. He's the dick, Odo. He could self-rubber. He's the dick and the rubber. But if he self-rubbers, doesn't he just still touching her? Technically. You know what, Eve? He can have safe sex,
Starting point is 00:46:58 but he can also have it both ways, because he feels everything. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't, he can't lean on the argument that it doesn't feel as intimate. She's like, I'm gonna need you to use protection and he's like, I'm allergic to latex. That's a good thing for me.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Boop. I'm using lambskin now, which is also me. And she's like, that's kind of gross. I don't really want that in there. Do you prefer foreskin or cut? Or we could try it both ways and he could let me know. Going forward. Wow. Everything's on the table. Yeah. He's a great lover. Cause she seems pretty happy too. And that's, that's that's
Starting point is 00:47:45 important. Length, girth or both. Kira and Dax are gossiping but not about his sexual prowess just that hey good for Odo. Yeah finally getting some and this sort of gossip is without honor to war. And besides Odo is quite capable of taking care of himself. Sisko likes it. That's nice. I didn't like that look for Cisco. This is not a post gossip future. The gossip is not scarce. Now, that's another running theme through the episode.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Like the fact that information is getting back to Odo through other people, like, you know, Kira heard it from O'Brien, who heard it from Beshear, who heard it from Dax, who heard it from Odo, you know, Kira heard it from O'Brien, who heard it from Bishir, who heard it from Dax, who heard it from Odo, you know, like all of these, like Odo's businesses in these streets. This is small town deep space nine. And you know, like playing the telephone game that the story is just getting crazier and crazier.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Like, did you hear Odo's crank is like four feet long? He actually strangled her with it. He's got a giant blue Dr. Manhattan tongue. Did you hear he has nipples? What the fuck? There's a little dot on the exterior circle of his ariola, just like Dr. Manhattan. He's got like a whole Dr. Manhattan thing.
Starting point is 00:49:03 We ain't fucking trouble. A Rissa goes to give him a little bit of a pinky and she's like, there's nothing here. Pfft. I'd like to have candy if you want. She's like, whoa, wait you big. Wait. Wait you big.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I'm not gonna put my whole fist up there, Odo. I'm lightly kinky. Odo is like shrunken bottle, rake his eyes. Whoa, ha, ha, ha. What's happening in the ops is that Odo's late, and that never happens. He finally shows up for this meeting with Cisco,
Starting point is 00:49:40 and that's the time. Better him than Arissa, am I right? Oh! Cisco and that's the time. Better him than Arissa. Am I right? Oh! This gives Arissa just enough time to jack back into the computer again. Yeah, jacks into the mainframe. Yeah. Transmit some code and we cut to the cargo hold where the two assassin guys are hanging out and they say,
Starting point is 00:50:04 The woman asked to make a deal She gives us the crystal dreamlet to go. There seems to be sort of a smart alien and a dumb alien so we don't have to kill her Don't be stupid. It really is a Georgian Lennie situation with them, huh? Yeah, these interstitial scenes with these two just serve to remind us that Arissa is in danger. I think I think they carry a crucial weight like because without them Arissa would just be jacking into computers and jacking Odo right and they do feel dangerous because they they don't seem competent per se but they
Starting point is 00:50:41 Have done a murder and are still at large on the station, you know, and they don't present as being fearful of anything or anyone. Right. So it's at about this moment that another Corn Holyo comes to Odo's office. This is an operative in the This is an operative in the addanian government. He runs Arissa as a spy and he explains that the memory chip is in fact the the catcher of the the backup of her
Starting point is 00:51:16 of her mind because she was altered to the look human and then sent to infiltrate the Orion syndicate without her memories because one of the things that Drain does is he has telepaths like troll people's memories to make sure that they aren't spies trying to infiltrate his syndicate. It's real clever. It's super clever, but everyone I know is a big but this is the worst possible outcome for an embedded spy, right? Like
Starting point is 00:51:50 you must keep the spy with her mind erased away from the chip that has her mind in it, right? Yeah. Why is she getting so close? She is they don't explain that is my point. I guess I'm not quite clear on why she became interested in getting this crystal. Yeah. The Idenians really should never have let the crystal out of their sight.
Starting point is 00:52:15 No, no, it's bad crystal method on their part. Oh, man. So with this explanation being made, uh, Odo is like, well, shit, we better get that, that data chip back. Uh, but when they get to the science lab, they find O'Brien's been KO'd because I guess in the science lab, you aren't allowed to have a pistol to defend yourself like you do in the hall of sweep. Well, there is a risk gone too. There is a risk doing those roundhouse kicks, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:49 More and more. More and more. More and more. More and more. More and more. We cut to the cargo bay and it's a RISA and the two Finneons having an interaction in there. I mean, RISA initially believes that the deal is
Starting point is 00:53:06 going to go off without a hitch and she will be safe, but it's the Lenny alien on the scene that puts her life in danger. Tell me again what kill is George! Right. She doesn't see him there. He has hiding behind a crate. And here's the thing. When you do blackjack dealer hands to prove that that you're not Carrying There is no version of that that That shows you aren't carrying a second person with a gun with you
Starting point is 00:53:37 This is like exactly like the dr. Bersier. I presume where there's just no consideration given to the fact that there are other places in the room that you can't see. The risk is a terrible spy, but she would have been killed dozens of times, but she doesn't think she's a spy. Yeah, yeah, this is this is part of the muddiness to her character, I think. Yeah. So, she's got the chip. She's just about to hand it over when Odo, who has concealed himself as like a crate up on the second level,
Starting point is 00:54:15 goes gold, and they together knock these two guys out. They're gonna hurt you until you're dead. That's what kill is. What? Why did you tell me it was sleeping and then having pancakes? And then the day is saved. Kind of a slap-dash fist fight though.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Like it does not seem like a foregone conclusion that they're gonna win when this gets going. It feels very A-team to me. Like the doors open, they're like, whoo! Yeah. He jumps off the tap rope. It's over very quickly. And then it's a close-up of the chip going into her neck
Starting point is 00:54:54 under the supervision of Dr. Bischier, who is basically reinstalling her memories. It's got to be weird for Dr. Bishir to add memories to a person instead of taking them away, right? Well, you know, like, Odo is trying to seek some penance for bad actions in his past, and maybe Bishir is as well. Much like a vasectomy, I was told that lobotomy was irreversible.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Ha ha ha ha. Bishir mentions that this is just the first step in the process, like he's got to wheel her into surgery. And at this moment I was like surgery for what, are they going to take out the port? But no, they reload her. They'd reload her back up. Because she's a trap salient. Yeah, she's given her own hood
Starting point is 00:55:43 and she comes back to say her farewells to Odo and explains that she's actually a married woman. Yeah, this... She comes back to basically scorch the earth. Like Odo doesn't need this. I don't know what... Like she's definitely not there to provide comfort. And she's, I guess, there to provide closure. What I'm trying
Starting point is 00:56:06 to ask is, why is she here? Like, what is her motivation to do this? Yes. She says that thing about like that, like, that was a real person. And she really loved you. And still does in a way. And I wondered which of those two things she was referring to. Right. Like, is she saying that that person is still to some extent a part of her personality? Or is she saying that as a trap salient, she loves him a little bit, but not as much as her husband? Do you think part of the surgery that Bashir did on her was putting her totally wrecked vage back together? Jesus. Bashir is like, you know, I was only expecting to work on the loaf, but I do have extra
Starting point is 00:56:56 loaf. And by the looks of things, yeee. You had a little bit too much fun. Yeah, like post-surgery, Arissa, and that's not her name clearly. She's never gonna forget Odo. Yeah. In a number of ways.
Starting point is 00:57:14 She's gonna be taking that with her wherever she goes. Yeah. But yeah, this does seem like I seen that is optimized to be the most hurtful to Odo. Every time Arissa takes a strained free poop, she'll know. that is optimized to be the most hurtful to Odo. Every time Arissa takes a strain-free poop, she'll know. That's the Odo effect. I heard it from the front and I heard it from the back.
Starting point is 00:57:38 But when you're Odo, you hit it from the front and the back at the same time. To the window, to the walls, to the gold drips down my balls. When the person who was a Rissa leaves, she leaves Odo to be alone, while the single flute of being forever alone plays. And that's it, we fade to black and then credits. That's our ep.
Starting point is 00:58:03 That is the ep. Pretty sad. Did you like the ep? Where has this odo been the whole time? The odo that is cool and confident and professional around a woman he likes. I was thinking a lot about it, and I think the difference is that a rissa flirt and kira doesn't, right? Hmm. I can think of a lot of moments in my life, in my romantic and sexual history, where it really helped when the other person hit the ballback, when it didn't feel like you were lifting
Starting point is 00:58:34 the entire weight of flirtation. And I think that makes a difference. So, Eryssa plays the game, and it makes it easier for Odo to get in there. And play as well. Well, when she's interested in a way that Kira does Odo to get in there. And play as well. Well, I mean, she's interested in a way that Kira does not appear to be. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I think Arissa's a great femme fatale, and she runs that game from that femme fatale playbook in a way that is fun. Like, she picks out the perfect mark, and she does all of that looking away while talking that a femme fatale does. Like, I did not laugh at her. I laughed with her in all those scenes.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Like the turn away manipulation that is just so unbranded. Yeah, it's like, it's like simultaneously a heavy episode and a light episode. Right. And I, like, that is a tricky thing to pull off where it's like, I didn't feel like the episode was asking a ton of me emotionally, but I felt what the characters were going through and I enjoyed the adventure of it, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, especially because a genre app can feel really hack and cheesy. And I think, you know, getting back to your observation earlier, I think not shooting it in a noir way helped it not feel that way. Right. It didn't, it didn't, uh, pot up the cheese in the way that Star Trek occasionally can when, when they're doing an emphatically genre episode. Yeah, it's crazy to say that about an episode where you see Odo's nipples that they didn't that they that there were limits that they chose not to Not to experience, but yeah, yeah fun Do you want to see if we have any priority one messages? Gotta do that. Let's see if these priority one messages have nipples Ben
Starting point is 01:00:21 Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplement only? supplement? supplement? supplement Yeah it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben our first priority one message comes from Andy K and it is for Adam and Ben.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Sounds like it's for you and me. Okay, what are those guys? Message goes like this. I've been a fan of you. I love one of them. Yeah, the other ones, you know, I'm indifferent. Honestly, I love neither. Message goes like this. That's very hurtful. I've been a viewer of the Silly Embarrassing podcast since the beginning, but Adam's song Ben's gonna talk about Africa is the single dumbest thing I've ever heard. On the self-proclaimed work of idiots, I literally cried with laughter.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Thank you, I love you guys! Wow! A well-deserved P1 of praise for my official theme song on the program. I mean, that cuts both ways, right? Praise for the dumbest. Yeah. We have a lot of this show left to do in the years ahead, but it appears as though, according to Andy K, I am the leader in the clubhouse for dumbest thing ever heard.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So thanks, Andy K. Adam, our second priority one message is from Kingsman, and it's to Ben and Adam. Another P1 for us. So nobody out there at a birthday this week, apparently. There are so many people in our viewership right now that are so angry. Think about those people and how hurt they must be right now. You then have to maximize them to find out maximumfund.org slash Gembo Tron and make things right.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, I'm looking at our schedule in the weeks ahead. Looking pretty open. Yeah. Sneak in there with a Gembo Tron. Gating it. The message from Kingsman to us is just a single symbol, very short message, and it is the Egyptian hieroglyph for a palace. You know what, for this episode, that is well-timed.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, this is the second penis image we've seen in this episode. Yeah, very true. this episode. Yeah, very true. Yeah, it's a it's a unicode character too. So if you have if you have a you know a certain version of unicode that includes the hieroglyphics, there's a dick hieroglyphic, apparently. I'm looking through this here. There's also one of a dick with some drips coming out of it. You know, dick hieroglyphics is my favorite indie rap group. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a wrong thing to be addicted to the dick like a hair wand fiend. You know our our priority one message spreadsheet suggests our viewership might have predicted the end of the world happening after
Starting point is 01:03:27 at our around December 30th. It is not a lot after that. I can't explain it. Get on those 2020 P1s, guys! Yeah, it's easy to do. Just go on over to Maximumfund.org slash Jumbo tron where personal messages are $100 and commercial messages are $200, both of which are a great way to support the ongoing production of this program. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, let's make a pretty great name for a tour. Let's do it. The Sherry Reembarishment Tour is coming in August 2023 and we've got a bunch of dates in a lot of great places. Go to greatestgentour.com to get more info. That's greatestgentour.com for dates
Starting point is 01:04:38 and ticketing information for the Sherry Reembarishment Tour. I'm Jordan Morris and I'm Jesse Thorne. On Jordan Jesse Go, we make pure delightful nonsense. We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We got stupid with Judy Greer. My friend Molly and I call it having the spaceweirds. Pat Naswalt. Could I get a ball-rock burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you. And Kumail Nanjiani. I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use. Come get stupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look, your podcast apps are open, just pull it out.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Give Jordan Jesse Goat try. Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead. Whoa, Raff's hit. There you go. I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy, what a line.
Starting point is 01:05:27 These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short necks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this line. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah?
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ohno Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two.
Starting point is 01:05:56 What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun or dot org. I don't. Brian, I love the passive aggression of a guy playing a character he doesn't want to play in that Hall of Sweet program Never breaking character even when it's totally appropriate to do so. He's like He's like I didn't want to be eye patch guy, but good luck getting me not being not to be eye patch guy Yeah, from now on fuck you guys. Yeah, I love that. I love that too What about you, Ben? My drunk Samota is Odo, and it's for when the guy that is her handler that shows up the spy handler, and explains what her job was and that she's been a deep-cover secret agent for two years.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Odo is like, but that's so dangerous! Like, he gets pissed off that a spy had a dangerous job. And I just feel like Oh, no, knows that spies do dangerous shit. Yeah, he knows better. He does dangerous shit. He's not even a spy. You want to know real danger? Try having sex for the first time.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Try participating in a hollow sweet video with Julian Bashir. You're going to be ducking all kinds of fluids, flying all over the place. Wow. One thing we can't possibly duck is our very next episode. Ben, how, what are we going to see? And how are we gonna watch it? Well, I'll tell you what we're gonna see. Why don't you head over to Gach that Bishslash game and fire up the game of buttholes, the will of the profits. We are going to be watching season 5 episode 18, business as usual, jumping at the chance to finally erase his debts, Quark accepts a position working for an arms dealer.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I mean Quark has always sort of worked for arms dealers, right? Yeah. This is just making it official. I guess. Well, our little runabout is on square 52 and two squares ahead is a quarks bar. A couple squares after that is a looking at each other during. So, oh man. Those are the stakes of the roll. You're required to learn as you play roll. And here we go with that. Tula! Did I win? Well, what I have rolled has landed us on square 55, which is the meat between a sandwich
Starting point is 01:08:53 between a quarks bar episode and a looking at each other during. So, face to face to the left of us, a Joker to the right. Here we are stuck on Square 55 in a regular old episode bin. Wow, a regular one. How about that? I'm looking forward to reg app. Yeah, you mean both. Just as I'm looking forward to signing off
Starting point is 01:09:19 with another classic segment of us reading our own credits. The viewers out there may be surprised to learn that we've never read the credits to the show. We just make them up on the fly. Yeah, we try to remember the parts of it. Sometimes we forget a part. Sometimes we forget to thank somebody that we couldn't have done this without. Yeah, we're doing our best. Doing our best to thank first and foremost all of the friends of DeSoto who go to MaximumFund.org Slash Donate. How about this idea?
Starting point is 01:09:48 As a holiday present to a loved one, get him a membership. And MaximumFund.org slash Donate so they can listen to all the bonus episodes and stuff. Yeah, what you'd be giving them is a box full of bonus episodes. So many bonus episodes. Probably in the hundreds network- wide, but just for the Uxbridge, Shimoda, family of shows, probably near a dozen at this point, right? Oh, more than a dozen, several dozen maybe. Dozens. Yeah, maybe two dozen. It's possible north of 20 bonus episodes at this point. Yeah, that's value right there. That's value for your $5 contribution every month.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Come on. Yeah, that's the gift that keeps on giving. It's true. We also really got to thank Adam Ragusia, who made our custom theme music. Of course, he based it on the music of dark materia, which is our original theme music. And then Adam Ragusia went on and became a celebrated YouTube cooking celebrity. And you can check out his cooking videos on YouTube. You just search Adam Ruggusia. I celebrate him every time I make a chicken par.
Starting point is 01:10:56 And he's a good thing to do. You season the cutting board, Ben. That's what you do. And you cook it in wine every time. Every time. We got to thank our buddy Bill Tilly who makes trading cards, collectible trading cards that you can collect by following him on Twitter at Bill Tilly 1973 or going to his Tumblr. I think he's getting them up on the Facebook occasionally these days. Bill Tilly is really the wine that we cook this show in, right?
Starting point is 01:11:28 Yeah. Speaking of social media, join the Jim Shimoto group, join the regular greatest Jen Facebook group, join the Reddit. Join all the things. They're cool people. Did you say Jim Shimoto with a G? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Double shout out. Double shout out to Jim Shimoto. Oh my waitlifting Jim Shimoto's out there working on those traps. With that, we'll be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And an episode of the greatest generation, which is moving on from Traps Day, is working on arms instead. Make it sound. Make it sound. You'll know the God of the youth. Make it sound. You'll know the God of the youth. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. You'll know the God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of God of and artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist artist

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.