The Greatest Generation - Irish Wank (DS9 S2E1)

Episode Date: February 26, 2018

When an ex-investment banker is sentenced to hard labor in a resort town, Major Kira goes behind enemy lines to rescue him. But when the stories he tells the tourists don’t end up holding any water, it’s up to Bajoran leadership to decide whether to keep his legend alive. What is proper "stream etiquette"? Why are dance crew contests still a thing in the 24th century? What are Klingon food safety rules? It’s the episode that questions the age limit on holosuites.

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With some alcoholic beverages this time around, I'm Adam Pranica. My therapist says never to do this. I'm Ben Harrison. You know, my lovely wife, lovely and smart and all of the good adjectives. Recently made a deal with herself. She's like, I don't want to drink anymore on weekdays. Yeah. That's something that we can stick to.

That's a noble and good thing. Let's save the drinking for weekends where it belongs. Non-school nights, she says, and this was a deal that I said to her face was something that I couldn't join her in. Because I have a job, Ben, and that job is pod primarily now. But honey, it's for work. And here I am ready to clock in with you with a high ball glass full of bourbon.

Alright buddy, let's clock in. Where do you drink in today? I'm drinking a golden state bay bread cider. Is this a, yeah, a hard cider made out of apples. I haven't drink it a lot of cider lately. I'm, I'm trying to go gluten free. It's a, it's a nice thing to drink. And I, I, I found in New York that I had a hard time

finding a cider that didn't taste like extra sweetened apple soda with booze. Yeah, that's real tough. Two sweet ciders seems like the standard and that is no good. Yeah, yeah, don't need it. And I fortunately have had pretty good luck. I don't know the brands out here on the West Coast as well, but I've been finding that my hit rate of trying one and liking it has been pretty high. And it's

because of all that dryness in it. That's a more disappointing than going up to a bar and the only cider they have is sweet. Yeah. Get out of here with that. Yeah. Take that woodchuck and flush it. I Went to a Sidravia in the Basque country of Spain several years ago and the cider was quite dry. I Bet it was Petriteji. Have you ever seen it? Try it out. I enjoyed it

Got the Benjamin R. Harris in seal of approval. Yeah, they enjoyed it. Got the Benjamin R. Harrison seal of approval. Yeah, they put that on all the literature. The sticker on the bottle says, I tried it. Benjamin R. Harrison. Yeah, if he say it was a funny scene because it's kind of like a, they've got kind of like a steakhouse type of vibe where you go in and like like you basically pay them $25 a person and they

just bring out like some salad and some steak and a glass and then like as you like you can go back into the room full of like you know 50,000 gallon barrels of cider and just an employee will be around like tapping a different barrel from time to time. And the way they, like, it is such an abundant resource there that when they tap it, it is just like spraying across the room, like a stream of piss and you just hold out your glass to catch a bunch of it. But like, a lot of it is just going on the floor.

Is anyone there just like with an open mouth, trying to catch it like that? I thought about it. I was kind of stranger in a strange land and like there was mostly locals. And like there was definitely a point where I was like drunk enough that I didn't realize it was my turn to stick my glass into the stream.

And everybody was looking at me like, fuck are you doing? You're wasting so much cider. When you're stranger in a strange land, there's two things you don't want to do. Ben number one, you don't want to just watch the stream and not stick your glass in front of it. Number two is you don't want to close your eyes, open your mouth and put your face in front of that stream. Right. Yeah. There's, there's's a there's etiquette to be followed, you know You just you know you got to wait to do that until you see somebody else demonstrating that that's okay Adam we're here because we have our new board game mechanic in full effect

That's right. People are going to go that biz slash game. Is that what we said? Yeah. Yeah, people are really loving the idea of this game, Ben. And that's encouraging because we surely didn't want to ruin the show. No, no. Come on. Who would ever accuse us of that?

I think, uh, I think this is gonna be good. I'm excited that we are here in season 2 of Dear Prisprision Earn It'll be interesting to see what if any differences we will discover in season 2 episode 1 The Homecoming homecoming. Ben, this first scene occurs in Quark's bar. Familiar opening to a deep phase 9 episode. Yeah, nothing surprising here, but maybe the only surprise I saw was Quark's giant belt buckle

and that he sort of dressed like a carpet store Santa. Like he's more, he's more rotund and jolly here than I remember in season one. And that's how I found out there was no Santa Claus. Well deep space nine has been good for Quark. He's in great spirits. He's in great spirits because he did Odo a salad. I figured we'd been adding to this throat long enough. It's time we call the truth.

Truth. Having watched the wire, I feel like I don't quite buy that Odo isn't wise to what Kortka is doing. You know, sometimes a criminal will turn in another criminal to like open the market up for himself, right? Right. But Odo, having gotten a hot and actionable tip from Quark, like he made arrests based on this tip, is totally perplexed as to why Quark would help him out with some information like this. In a post-currency society for some people, not quirk,

but some people. Right. Information's the true currency, right? Yeah. And that's what he's throwing around. You know, Odo is not going to take a bribe, but he will take a pocket full of that sweet, sweet information. So the angle winds up not being that quirk

is trying to free up space in the black market so much as he's just trying to confuse Odo. You're up to something. Why would you say that? Because you're always up to something. Which I like. Like, yeah, like one of the rules of acquisition is like, get your opposition off guard by declaring peace. It composes the hell out of your enemies. I love ROM in this whole sequence

because the initial conversation between Odo and Quark is framed with ROM like clearly listening in in the background while pretending to polish the bar. Yeah, he's basically doing everything except like sticking his head into frame from the top. Yeah This is definitely like the series indicating like this rom guy is gonna be more of a character now And he's also like doing helping us get a little exposition because he's like Quirk. Why the hell did you do that? Quirk basically turns to camera and tells us why.

So we open with this very tactical Quirk situation where Quirk is making, like, you know, he's making galaxy brain moves, you know? He's that meme where the mind has has accomplished the entire galaxy I want to see the galaxy brain meme redone with the furringy head But then like the next thing he does seems so uncork because It's like I mean, maybe it's it's kind of quirk, but the lady he's dealing with, you would think kind of works the same way.

Right. And she really doesn't. Like, she's got this earring. Cardassian gave you a pejorative earring. He asked me to take it to Bejor. Said whatever I showed it to, it understand. There doesn't seem to be a financial angle there. No terms are discussed. He just takes it off her hand.

So it's like, what is Quark just doing favors now? In a mixed station universe, it sort of feels like airport rules would be in play, right? You don't want to hold onto someone's, some stranger's bad. Just like I wouldn't expect Quark to want to hold onto this earring, not knowing its provenance, right? Like purple-haired cat suit lady seems to be doing that grift that all attractive women seem to be able to do to Ferengy, which is like sort of seduce them into doing their bidding. Right. Or just be like a guy on a street with a fucking watch that he claims is a real

roly, you know? Yeah, that's maybe a better description of the scene because he doesn't ever assume that it's going to get him into trouble. We need Quirk to take a pit stop at the Antiques Roadshow and get an insurance valuation on this thing. I would ensure it for at least $1 million. You know, like for it to be plausible. I feel like Garrick would be a great host for that version of the show, and PS9.

In lieu of Marquil Walberg. Yeah, yeah. God, get Marquil Walberg out of here. Get Garrick in there. Yeah. So yeah, she just gives him this earring saying like she, like anybody bejure and will know what to do with it is basically what she says, which is also confusing because she's on a bejure and space station.

Yeah, kind of bully for her, right? Yeah, like if you don't want money for it and its potential trouble, which is sort of implied here, drop it on the promenade and walk away, you know? Yeah, the earring ends up being from Cardassia 4, that's said straight away. So already quarks got to feel like this thing is hot. And the person he takes it to is Major Kira. And he takes it to around a kind of pervy basis of like entering her quarters. As she's changing and she's actually dressed in

blowing up a pizza oven attire. Right. Yeah, she may be my favorite costume for Nanaa Vizator so far. Yeah, we have to assume that she came from blowing up a pizza oven, I guess. That's all she likes to do in the Hala suite. Just like, pizza oven, level 47.

Start program. Yeah, she's like having a little meditation, just reflecting on the pizza oven that she just blew up. And she turns around and there's quirk and he's like, hey, I got a little, well, something something for you. And he doesn't even try and sell it to her. As soon as we fade up in Kira's condo, I was thinking, oh, we haven't seen Kira's condo before on the show.

And then as soon as I said that... I was wondering what your quarters looked like. And then, like, make himself at home. Surprisingly, Worf-like apartment. Yeah, pretty Spartan. I don't know if that's because it's a Cardassian space station or because Kira is kind of a war flight character. She's the warrior of the show, you know? Her rank should earn her one of the best

condos, I think. Yeah, it seems a lot smaller than the one we've seen Cisco in, right? Right, it could really, I mean, it's clearly not an open concept apartment. Therefore, we don't get to see the entirety of it. Yeah. Get the property brothers over here. We got to knock some walls down. This is not gonna have good resale value. People are looking for that open concept.

Not great curb appeal from Bejoa, either. So she takes the earring and storms out and Cark is like, well, consider it a gift. Yeah, and this is like, this adds more batter to the cake that is the idea of Quark being in love with Kira. Like throughout season one, they're implied affectionate moments from Quark to Kira that are unrecoited. And so, like the idea of Quark being okay, just giving up something of value to her, makes a little bit of sense to me, in a way that he would never let that fly for anyone else, without wanting something in return. Yeah, I don't blame him.

Ollie wants in return as her love, man. Yeah, that's our cold open. and return to his love man. Yeah, that's our cold open. And we come back from title sequence and Jake is running into his dad on the promenade and Jake is pretty pumped because he has just landed a first date. He has to girl out. Well good for you and now you've come to the old man for advice. What does Satan do?

And he wants his dad to consult with him on what he should do with this girl. His ideas all sound too erotic for Commander Cisco. But at the same time, they sound totally rational, given what there is to do on this dumb station. All there is to do is go to a Holliswee or go to the apartment and watch TV. Right.

What else are they gonna do? And to both of these ideas, Ben Sisko is like, no way. You need a shaperone for things like that. And also, like, she's way too young to see fuckbokai. And what you like doing to him in the hollusweet. Is Jake allowed in Quarks? Yeah, because he hangs out with nog there sometimes. Yeah, like I wonder, like is Quarks like TGI Fridays where it's as much

restaurant as bar? Yeah, I feel like that's a fairly accurate thing. It doesn't seem like there's any other restaurant situation there. Well, there's the repulmat, right? And I think in later seasons, there's a Klingon restaurant. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like the ethnic food of Deepspace 9.

I'm sure that's really popular. Yeah. That was just... Yeah, you can smear all the fish row you want on your turkey leg. The rokeg blood pie has been under the heat lamp for 13 hours. Yeah, you gotta be careful with that stuff. You know what, I bet Klingon food safety rules mandate that all food must be in the danger zone, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. You let that manay sit out in the sun to test the metal of your warriorness. So yeah, Cisco's suggestions are, do something in public with her. Where are the straight jacket? Do a ride along with Odo.

Ha ha ha. Ben, it made me think of presupposing that you ever knew what you were doing. Huh. Well, we're, well, we're some of the first date ideas that you had when you were first dating. I remember not really having a lot of great ideas myself

and they mostly involve just like renting a movie or hanging out with them all. Yeah, I've a distinct memory of of like that middle school moment where you like ask a girl out and that is like a meaningless gesture in middle school because it's like you can't like go anywhere or do anything. Yeah. But with But anybody you don't have a car like you're definitely not

going to like ask your parents to take you on a date. It's so dumb. And it you know it was that classic like we would pass each other in the hall and it be more awkward with each other than before I had asked her out. Kind of a deal. At least you had the ask her out part down. Ben, I feel like what I did primarily was like not give the thing a name and hang out for a while until she got bored. Well, it backfired big time because I went home and said, like much like Jake here, I said to my mom, hey, I asked a girl for my school out and she said, well, I don't know about that.

I'm going to have to call some of the other mothers and see if they're allowing their their children to date. Oh, no. Yeah. You got mom blocked. That's a hard lesson to learn. Yeah, You got mom blocked That's a hard lesson to learn yeah, I didn't learn that lesson as soon as possible to yeah, unfortunately But yeah, that that was like a like a moment of like no no no no no no no Don't call anybody. I just I said that to get a rise out of you. It was not true. Ha ha. Silly me, I'll always make in jokes. My mom was friends with our school's counselor.

Ha ha ha. And I asked a girl to homecoming when I was a freshman or sophomore in high school. And my mom, unbeknownst to me, had asked the guidance counselor what the story was with this girl and found out from the counselor that she was not a good person for me to be dating.

My mom totally, she did not ban me from going out with her, but voiced her displeasure based on the sleuthing that she did about this girl and talk about breeding mistrust. Yeah. That was not a good moment. You can't do op-second girls, Ben. No, that's gonna backfire as a parent because you put together a few incidents like that as a parent and your kid is just never gonna tell you anything ever again. And guess what happened, Ben? So they're having this conversation where

Cisco is counseling Jake to walk around in public with this girl, which, you know, the cheapest date possible. So not terrible advice. But we can get some of those big lollipops. Yeah. But the nice, flair pace. She'll love that. Kira comes up and is trying to get Cisco's attention. And he's really not reading her for how urgent this seems to be. He's like, yeah, whatever you want to talk about, we'll talk about over lunch and starts like ordering coffee. You know, it gets that like that super 90s commuter mug

of coffee and order some food and she's like, I need to borrow a runabout. And he starts prying. He's, he's curious why, why is she wants to take daddy's car? You really don't want to ask me that. Much like Jake asking his dad to take a date to the hollow suite, here is asking for the keys to the car, right?

This is very paternal behavior happening from Benzisco to other people on the station. Yeah, he's not exactly leaping up the opportunity to do his first officer a favor and So he starts kind of prying stuff out of her and it turns out that it's about this earring This is an earring with the crest of a hero of the Bajoran resistance The resistance leader the greatest we ever had Lee Nalus the Lee Nalas holy shit

That's Lee Nalas's earring that's the reverence that people treat both the earring and the name when it's spoken Yeah Everyone's heard that girl's a real story. Yeah, I have already heard the story wasn't he reported killed in action I wish I knew the like relative strengths of pejorans and cardacians are pejorans I knew the like relative strengths of pejorins and cardacians are pejorins like physically weaker than cardacians. The way humans are physically weaker than Vulcans. It seems that way. And if that's the case, then Ferengi is definitely at the bottom because we saw

Kira throw quark across his own bar. Yeah, well, we do have the operating theory that Ferengi are very light. They have bird bones. Sure. Sure. Sure. I'm willing to co-sign that theory. Kira wants to go on a Rambo first blood part two hostage rescue mission. To Cardassia Ford, rescue a Bichorn prisoner before.

And she wants a runabout to do it. She's only supposed to take pictures. Just photographs under no circumstances. Are you to engage the enemy? Kira, major. Half German, half Indian. It's a hell of a combination. The other thing that we probably should talk about is that they find some graffiti in the hallway. And this is graffiti that is associated with the Bajurian terrorist-ish organization called the Circle.

They're an extremist faction who believe in Beijor for the Bajorans. And me try annually at the secret country mansion in Colorado, not ads, the meadows. I don't know about you, Ben, but when my graffiti are scrawled in yellow paint, I feel like that's especially threatening. I don't know why. Yeah. Is this Star Trek's first graffiti?

I feel like the klingons are known for their graffiti, right? Oh yeah, they tagged up that space station on Discovery, didn't they? Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, and they got that poopy on that one ship. Yeah, you want to avoid that if possible. That was not intentional graffiti.

They bombed that one starship where they tagged it up and it said all you see is, and then on the other starship, it said crime in the city. You have any more before we move on? I don't know. We'll probably just have to edit in some wild style drops.

Yeah. I love how we basically, we cut to her quarters and like it's her getting ready, except it's almost again like using the date analogy like it's her getting ready for a date. Kira's packing a small bag but Cisco doesn't want her to go alone, which is why he's brought O'Brien to be the wheel man. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Every crime needs a good wheel man and Kir is a great driver, but this O'Brien guy drives

like he doesn't care if he lives or dies. Because he doesn't. He's kind of a baby driver, if you will. Sure. Yeah, he doesn't want to get back to his family even though he has one That's the funniest part of like when Kira and O'Brien board the runabout and get ready to go Kira's like look this mission can end only one of two ways We bring back Lee Nallis we don't come back at all

And oh Brian looks at her like so can I just choose the second one? Haha. Just like, what I'm trying to tell you Brian is we're expendable and he's like, is that mean your family wants you to come home for dinner? But, if you don't show up. Doesn't really matter. Oh Brian's like, you take me to Kardashian for? You take me with you so we can start a new life?

Live the quiet life. Yeah. Yeah. O'Brien coming into this, into this operation made me realize something that I hadn't even thought of in the entire first season of Deep Space 9 is, who hates the Cardassians more? Kira or O'Brien? He totally Cardassia explains Kira in the apartment before they go.

He's like, I've seen how the Cardassians treat their prisoners. Like Kira hasn't liberated camp after a camp full of these atrocities. Like give me a break. Like that line again was meant for us. That wasn't meant for anyone in the room. Right. And what they, what they should have done is something like Alice Waters going to that farmer's market in New York

where she says like, uh, this is a prison camp and he goes, I've seen how Cardassians treat their prisoners. It's bad and she goes, yeah, I know, I know. I know all about it, asshole. Here's the thing though, they give O'Brien this throwaway line about how he knows this stuff, but when they get to the planet, they don't allow him to have that memory visited upon him.

He has totally squished those feelings and he's a total pro on the planet surface. And I was hoping for a little bit more unhinged O'Brien in this moment. Oh, like getting, like having a PTSD kind of moment. Well, not even that, but like have him really relish the idea of shooting cardacians down there while on the clock. Like this is something he doesn't get to do normally. Yeah, and it's not that he hates the cardacians. It's that he hates what they made him become

So let us never forget Yeah, yeah, he really does keep us cool. He they they approach the camp just on foot like they there's a little like fun and games with talking to the foot. Like, there's a little like fun and games with talking to the, talking to the radio substation that's tracking their progress across Cardassian space. They've tricked out their warp signature to look like something else and they decide to put down on Cardassia for evidently not the seat of the Cardassian Empire because it's just this planet is just a heap of rubble. They're gonna need all these rocks broken bit. These guys are there to do. This is definitely like the Rambo camp, right?

When they beam down, this is a real outdoor set. I was totally blown away. This is a real sunshine. Yeah. It's a real sunshine. Yeah. It's a, it's real sunshine. There's like late season six TNG level depth of shots where you can see like more than a hundred yards in the distance. You have an action set piece where like people are falling down hills and shooting beam weapons and stuff. It's great. It's a lot of fun.

Their opening gambit is, Kira is a Bajorin prostitute that is for some reason here and O'Brien is her pimple. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And then, and then, and then. But what would it cost me for an appointment? More than you could afford. Yeah, the unbelievable part is O'Brien as a Pimp. Yeah, O'Brien as a Pimp, zero cents. Kira could be anyone. Like, she is a chameleon.

Like, she's almost too excited to be playing this part, I think. Yeah, the prisoners here doing the hard labor are noticing this scene going down. What's this all about? I'm not quite sure. They've all like pretty much noticed, so they're like ready for it when the drop happens. Yeah.

Kira starts like, you know, punch them and knocking out the guard. She turns off the perimeter fence. She, you know, Brian start pegging the other Kardashians that are walking around and they get everybody to escape. It's a real desperate escape attempt. It's more Rambo 2, like, you know, we are barely making it out alive with you guys kind of shit. From a technical perspective, this scene blows away so much of season one. There's so much happening here. It's more exciting shot compositions than you normally get in Trek. Even in TNG, when they had outdoor stuff, just be doctor, crusher, and Picard walking around

in the wilderness. This is like 30 like, 30 people running toward Canron. They're like firing lasers back at the, at the Kardashians who are, you know, shooting, shooting beam weapons at them. Guys falling down hills, rocks exploding. It's a, it's pretty wild. Do you think that the Kardashians are just bad shots? Or is it on a fundamental level, a pulse weapon is less accurate than a beam weapon because a beam weapon is its own tracer? Yeah, I don't know.

Like, I wonder about the way O'Brien used his beam weapon because he would like aim a shot and then click the button and it would miss. But he's never like, what I would be doing if I had a phaser is just waving it all over the place at people. Right. You know? Like using it as a cutting torch.

Yeah, but maybe if you, maybe if you move it around too much, it could melt in your hand or something. I don't know. Yeah, we need some phaser backstory here. Like have him toss it to like one of the bejurins and say like, like don't wave it around too much. It'll blew up in your hand.

I don't even know what accent that was man. That was bad. They make this weird decision in this moment. They're getting out with like dozen prisoners and they're like, like we're not gonna escape these four remaining Cartassian guards. And one of the prisoners is like,

who's like, I'll stay back with four guys and we'll fight them off. If you give us your phasers, you get this dude out alive because if Leonalis survives, it's a big deal. Everybody not those Ford guys gets on the runabout and they're like waiting and they're like, oh man, we're gonna take off. Once those guys get back here and Leonalis is like,

don't take off without those guys, man, don't take off without those guys., don't take off without those guys. And the major has to make this like horrible decision. We're just gonna have to leave them behind. They're gonna have to be sacrificial lambs. When Kira makes this decision, it feels like a professional making a tough choice in a hard spot. But the aftermath of that decision is never talked about,

and it's barely even reacted to in the moment. As you think that was weird? I thought it was weird. I think it's like a little bit building up to the reveal of Outlean Alice later, but I was also just like, so fucking take off and beam those guys up, right? Like how many times in Trek,

have we seen somebody in a hairy situation get beamed out of it? What's preventing that? Oh, Brian's like counting down the time it takes for these two giant Cardassian warships to enter orbit and they're just waiting. And like the pregnancy of them waiting seem so nonsensical to me. Yeah. Kira turns to a Brian, she's like, hey, do you know how to use a transporter beam? And he's like, duh. Does my answer mean whether or not we'll be staying or going back home to Deep Space 9, where my wife is? What are you doing now? Exactly.

Let's talk a little bit about this lean Alice guy. He's got that sort of leathery, sun-soaked ruggedness to him. He does. An airs out, tasselhoff type that you'd find on like your late 80s action television show like Airwolf Pilot Guy or like Baywatch Nights antagonist. He looks sort of anonymously good looking. Yeah, anonymously 90s hair. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, it's not 90s hair that calls attention to itself the way ginger Jesus would. He looks like the bartender in a resort town. You know, yeah, like like good looking for there. You do enough shots with him and he tells you like he used to be an investment banker, but he just fucking couldn't take the stress. Yeah, yeah, that's Lee Nallus, aren't you? He's living the dream. And like for a moment, you think about whether or not you could live that life too.

Yeah, like Lee Nallus is like, is, his beach bar chic. You wanna be living that Lee Nallus lifestyle. You go to a hotel conference room, you take his class, the lean-alice lifestyle. Right. It becomes evident that it's just a time share pitch about halfway through. Oh man, I knew that there was some reason they were giving away blinders. Lean-alice took a little fire on the way out,, so when they get back to the station, he's

got to go to 6 Bay. And it's like everybody that comes off of this thing has to go to 6 Bay, but he's in a bad enough way that they get him to the station, like make him go through the airlock, and then they beam him from the hallway to 6 Bay. Ben, when you only have a single camera, what you need are your actors facing the same direction, which is why it's so convenient that Lee Nalus' injury was on his back.

So he could lay on a stomach and talk to Dr. Bishir while they're both facing camera. Yeah, I thought it was interesting that he didn't take a bath or like get cleaned up at all while he's getting treated. Like, I guess whatever he's getting treated for is that bad that they don't have time to like clean the filth off of him.

They didn't wanna show the delousing scene when they brought him on board. What do you think are the bugs that are on him from Cardassia for? Yeah, probably really gross. Um, Kira runs into Cisco's office to like tell him how the op went and is very embarrassed to find that, uh, Cisco is FaceTiming with GalduCut. Yeah, you get a knock first before going into Cisco's office for a variety of reasons, Ben.

One of them being that he may be face timing with DuCat. And that might be something that enters into the vernacular as another way to say whack in it, right? Right, face timing with DuCat. Yeah. Yeah. Like, do you think that DuCat is tipping Cisco? He's like, Cisco is like camming for DuCat. Yeah, just as a way to earn some extra

money. I could see that. But it ends up being one of those tension and release moments pretty fast because Kiris is not comfortable being there, but it's quickly disclosed that Ducat is all about apologizing for the idea that these bejorans were in this camp because they weren't supposed to be there because it's of some treaty and so he boxed up the rest of the bejorans, sent him back to Deep Space Nine and gave a humble apology for the situation even happening. And I hope that our quick response to this unfortunate situation will prove once and for all that Kardashian is no longer your enemy. We get a real tiny scene in this episode in Quark's Bar after it closes and it's

Quark and Ram counting money and dividing them, dividing the bars of Latin between themselves. And it is one for you and six for me. This is a situation that grows in irritation for Ram as the count continues because it's just so dispiriting. Yeah. To see all that Latin, I'm going to the other side of the table. Well, he should have negotiated for a better percentage in the LLC when they founded Quarkromco LLC. Yeah, which rule of acquisition is it that makes six to one fair on the split?

It makes it seem like Ram has a piece of the bar, right? He owns 1-7th of the bar. Yeah, yeah, so Ram slinks away in a huff. And from stage right enters the Jabba walkies who hold quirk down and brand him on the forehead. The have like the branding iron of the future. I don't know which is more troubling. The idea that Quark's bar has such poor security when money's on the table,

or that the Jabawakis are still a thing at the 24th century. Yeah, you would think that winning dance crew contests would only have so much shelf life, but it seems like it's like the Blue Man group. Like they've been able to build an empire out of it. I'm shocked by this. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha They get quirk to six bay and I guess Bashir is like is Not just a good doctor, but he's a good doctor Tadoff as well

Yeah, often the the more painful procedure is the removal and not the installation yeah of of either your brand or your tattoo Yeah, I gotta say, Quark is lucky that they did this on his forehead and not on his ear. Yeah. Because that could have like really dulled his sexual, his sexual sensations, you know,

and that would be really horrible. Yeah, a few people brand the tip. Then for good reason. Yeah. I think it's about this time that a Bajurian government politician shows up played by Frank Langella. Well, Ben, it may surprise and disappoint you to know that I was so shocked by Frank Langella's presence here that I did a little research. Oh, man, that's how the

board game works. I know, dude. I know, but it's Frank Langella. He deserves a little research Sure, do you like to hear what I found? Lay it on me brother He did this role uncredited Wow, which is why you won't see his name in the credits He did it because he at this moment in his career did a lot of stuff for his kids sake He he knew his kids would enjoy him being on Star Trek, so that's why he did it. Wow.

It was the same reason that he played Skeletor in the Masters of the Universe film, which is a part that he played wearing a skull mask, Ben. Yeah. You may know the skull mask as the same skull mask that is worn on that one weird skull head looking dude in the Klingon calisthenics program that warfuses on the holodeck it's the same mask Ben. Do you see how I connected those dots? Holy shit. Thumbtacks and red

string man. I happen to know that you've record this podcast from your basement and I'm just picturing the you know know, the, the cork board, the wall that has several lined up milk bottles full of piss, the, the crazy scribblings on blank surfaces of wall that, that you use to, to arrive at this. Ben, those milk bottles predate my investigation. Hahaha. Franklin Jella also was a, in a long-term relationship with whoopi Goldberg. No shit. Yeah, he was her steadman for a long time.

Yeah. Alright, RSVP Franklin Jella. Oh no, he's dead. Didn't he die? It's hilarious that that was the one bit of research I didn't do. No, he's not dead. He's 80 years old. Damn it.

I mean, yay. Boy, we just went through a lot of emotions just then. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of emotional, Jake is on his fainting couch. Sad that the bejorin girl would not go out with him. Yeah. Because of his humanity. Yeah, it turns out that the like the circle, you know, most, most well-known via their

dance crew, the Jabowakis, are putting out a xenophobic ideology among bejorins, that bejor is for the bejorins, and we shouldn't allow all these aliens to interlope. It's very much the Vedic-Win idea. idea, it's it it cropped up a lot in season one and is now like encoded in the ideology of the circle. I don't understand why Bayshore is so nationalist about this stuff. Like they've got factions on their planet worshipping come monsters in their own house. Yeah. Yeah. That should figured out first. Like it makes a little bit more sense for the Vulcans to be this racist, you know?

Yeah. Like, yeah, like we don't really let anybody not Vulcan into our science academy or our expeditionary force because we've figured everything out. Yeah, there's like an intelligent strictness to it that you can sort of understand. Yeah, there's nobody living on a moon in orbit of Vulcan that's like, hey, I'm not leaving here, I just finished my pizza oven.

What kind of oven was that been? My pizza oven. He's speaking of lasagna. I'm into my third beer atom, leave me alone. Things got slippery pretty fast. I'm trying to give the people what they signed up for. I give you a Frank Langella story, and you start drinking like the man's dead. Yeah, man.

I'm holding an Irish Wank, Wake for a man that's still alive over here. After the podcast is over, I'll be holding an Irish wank. I'm probably like a quarter Irish, you know. As far as I know. I've seen that mustache. I'm ready to believe that. So this is the part of the episode that sort of pays off the idea of Lee Nallis, a guy who's not comfortable with his fame.

We get a couple of scenes where like groups of bejorins are following him around the station, like wanting a speech. He finally gives that speech when when Frank Langella beams up. And every moment after this is just filled with this sort of dread about Lee Nallis. He understands that Kira took him back home to erect him as a leader, but he doesn't really want to be given speeches, and he doesn't want to be given the responsibility of being this great new leader because his origin story is flawed. It's the thing that was animating him not wanting to leave

Cardassia for without those dudes. He didn't want them to sacrifice themselves for him. And this begins a debate about the difference between a person and a symbol. It's the K-list question all over again, right? Like the truth of Goal's Arrayal's legend is fairly far off from what the legend is. Like everyone thinks Lee Nallus killed a 10-foot tall Cardassian with his bare hands and he's this hero figure that is worthy of worship and Lee finally levels with Ben Cisco and he's like, look man, this guy was naked and small. He was hanging dong just chilling in a lake.

Yeah, Gull's a rail, like, should be ashamed to die in that manner because I was a little bit embarrassed about the whole scene, but like, the people needed a story, right? And so they latched on to it and they telephoned it into this legend. Yeah, his legend really got out of control and and it's not something he likes or wants he doesn't want to be Legend he doesn't want to be a symbol of hope for anybody and Cisco's like they still need you. This is something that fate has visited upon you

And it might not be comfortable, but you're in a very unique position to unite your people because Bejor is fucking falling apart. Like people are fighting down there like the Kai is dead or gone or whatever. She's on planet the room. I am not dead. I am not. Adam is excited to quote the room because he just saw it for the first time. Feels good. Now I can tell those jokes. I like how you and I are doing a podcast right now and also sending jokes to each other via text that aren't on the podcast. We're really playing three-dimensional podcast chess here. Yeah, it's amazing.

Like, when I edit this episode, I'm sure I will discover that we were far too drunk to be doing this. You're also too drunk to realize that I will be the editor of this episode. Oh, shit! Gold to cotton, the cup, the cotton, the cotton. So... The end of the episode is a pretty intense scene in Ops, where the minister shows up to announce that Lena Ellis has been given the title of NaveArc.

I don't know, man, if they're like making up a title for you I might prefer it to sound a little less like something that needs to be lanced well anyways there's a series of shocking revelations here uh... lean Alice has been given a political title that is the first of its kind.

It's a great honor, but he is also the the new Kira. He's been made the Bajoran liaison officer to Deep Space Nine. They took her Jorb. Yeah, and she's been stationed back on Bajor. Yeah. She can do a lot more damage to the myriad pizza ovens down there if she were to live there.

Mm-hmm. So that makes sense. She can lead the anti-pizza oven expeditionary force. It is. You wouldn't believe the conditions I found them in. I filled with the sort of a thousand pizzas, the ones they couldn't bake anymore. Buried in an open grave. Some of them were even used for gluten-free crust.

Oh, it's awful! One of them is hard to talk about. Oh, it's awful. One of them is hard to talk about. It was just for deep dish. So this banger, this emotional banger is dropped on Kira and a to be continued banger is dropped on us. It's a first episode cliffhanger. Yeah, and when you start the episode, there's no indication given that this is going to be one of a several, you know,

like I've and I think that that is like in the context of this era of television, pretty, pretty otre like the, the average TV viewer is not expecting big fat arcs getting unfolded on them all the time. And Deep Space 9 kind of blazed this trail in a lot of ways. Like, I think, you know, X-Files was there for it too, but they, uh, they don't give you any warning that this is going to be a cliffhanger at the beginning. And I don't even think that like the story structure gives you any warning for the first half, you know. No, this was super surprising.

You kind of think that this is just going to be a, a quick little like Rambo story. And it winds up really not being. Yeah, there are a lot of times when the credits can ruin it. And one of the ways that it does is when you get a part one in a title of episode, yeah, or sometimes you get a cast credit, sort of like what they did with Michelle, yo, by making her an and featuring credit, right, instead of a full bird cast member, like, you know,

she's not long for the show if you get that credit. So good on them for not betraying any of that head of time. It really served the surprise for me. Totally. It's a lot of fun and looking at the titles as listed on Amazon, they have blown that surprise in listing them as the homecoming part one, the circle part two, and the siege part three. Did you like this episode? I did. I think that this is an episode where I, like, it's not really an episode that's there to be liked or not liked because it is really setting the table. And I think that that's a really cool

and interesting idea, like an episode that is entirely about putting pieces on the board. I guess I like it in that sense, like the sense that you sit down kind of expecting an arc, either like an entire half of an arc or an entire arc based on what we're used to so far. And it's not that it's like this new thing. It's this new idea. Like what if we not that, it's like this new thing, it's this new idea. Like, what if we kind of introduce a whole bunch of characters and a whole bunch of motivations and power structures

and like volatile elements, and it almost feels like the first episode of a series, you know? Yeah. It's introducing so much. It is, it's almost like hitting the reset button on the entire show. And from that standpoint, I think it's a really interesting exercise and I am really excited to see what the next couple episodes have in store for us. I might go a step further, Ben, and to say that if you removed the entire first season and made this the first season, the first episode of the series, I think it works. Yeah. I think it works without any backstory. There's enough restated here about Kira's cardacene experience, about what the cardacians are like, the relative guilt, the guilty feelings

that some parties feel about their actions during it. I think it totally works as a pilot. Yeah, standing alone. I mean, this may have been the smarter entry point to the deep phase 9 story. Yeah, if I didn't say it before, I'll say it now. I like the episode for the same reason that you did. And I hope this means that better things are ahead for the show as it starts second season. Yeah, it's an exciting new way of doing show. Well, speaking of things that are always better than the last, let's check our priority one message you spend.

Let's do it. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. Yeah it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.

Ben our first priority one message is from Andy K. It is for Adam and Ben and James Tricky. Who used to work at Product Madness and introduced me to this podcast. There's no T at the end there because I think they ran out of characters. You could have just stuck with pod, you know, like we've've really, uh, we've really put that out there. Message goes like this, Ben, hey guys. Hey guys. Thanks for all the pods. Every Monday, day, day, and UK time. I'm standing at my front door waiting for the latest episode to download, so I can listen to you on the way to work. You guys rock!

for the latest episode to download so I can listen to you on the way to work. You guys rock! Please. Can you ask Kevin Uxbridge to say thank you to my friend and former co-worker, James Tricky, for introducing me to this pod? James, what you've done for me is something I could never fully repay, because I've never had any money of my own. One of the horrible secrets about my real-doubt business is that I've shipped every single model I have on consignment. To be honest, they have not sold well, via the intermediaries and middlemen that I contracted with. You see, well, I have the powers to exterminate and entail rage.

My powers fail in the area of marketing. You'd be ashamed to see the season 3 episode of Dragon's Den, where I appeared pitching my business and was laughed out of the room because I had no numbers to lean on. No customers, to be honest. And let me strongly discourage you from staying up late, watching local cable channels. Because the commercial that I filmed with that college students, it now turned out well. I am embarrassed that I attempted to produce a commercial by posting on Craigslist in the first place.

That is partly on me. Actually, no, the day I think about it Craigslist is exactly where I should be selling these jewels. I don't know why I tried to be a whole sailor in the first place. I should sail direct to the customer. I digress. Anyways, thank you so much for putting us in front of so many new people. Back to the customer. I digress. Anyways, thank you so much for putting us in front of so many new people.

Well, Kevin, you've made a great case for your products and you've done a hell of a job in thanking our friend, James Tricky. It's like, it's like Kevin is like a craftsman, but he sucks at the sales part of the job. It's almost like that's a whole different skill. Like so many artists, he's concentrating on the craft. I understand that. I feel like that's why my film production business basically collapsed. Yeah. Well, I would argue that my film production business collapse because I spent too much time day drinking and recording a podcast. There's a second message. It's from Susie who I believe we met at our first live show in Seattle.

Well, I may not I may be missing. We go way back then. Yeah. And this message is for leaf and Danny It goes like this. Remember how much fun we had drinking with Gauron on the Star Trek cruise this year? It sure was a blast when he put that triple down in his pants. Thanks for still being my pals! Going on adventures with me and drinking all those drinks.

Too bad others couldn't join us. Also, Danny, you still have that crush on Adam after 190 episodes? Oh, damn. Much like my favorite kind of beer, Ben, I am very crushable. I wonder if they ran into our friend and our friend and Kilser on that cruise. I think that would have been cool I am not positive about the timeline, but I'm thinking it may be two different Cruises that we're talking about because Ann Kilser went on the very recent one I think they're talking about the previous cruise. I feel like Ann would have told us about a triple in the pants of of a galron

Yeah, well, I think we'll probably be coming back through Seattle on the 2018 Tourer, right? That's the idea. So maybe you can meet Danny who has a crush on you. Yeah, that'd be great. How's Sine, whatever Danny would like me to sign? How's that? You better talk that over with your wife at him. Alright that's fair. Well if you have a message that you don't need to talk over with your wife before sending you can go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo

tron where personal messages like these cost $100 and commercial messages like some other real great ventures cost 200 They're a great great way to support the ongoing production of this program and keep us Way steep in the alcohol required to produce it. So thanks Hey Adam What's that been? Captain Picard, are you anyone, Lizzie? Hey Adam. Who has that been? This is to find yourself a drunk, some... I don't know. Drunk Shimoda!

There's like the truest Shimoda is the oblivious in the face of dangerous Shimoda, right? That's what Shimoda was. Yes. Stacking those chips. Sure. So to me, it's Odo. Ooh. Odo, Odo two times in this episode.

The first time when he spots that graffiti on the wall, any mentions that like, look you guys, this is not a big deal. This is in a low security area of the station. I don't think there's anything to worry about here. And Cisco's like, what the fuck man? Starting now, there are no low security areas of the station. And that makes a ton of sense to me.

Ben, why is there such a thing here? Doesn't make sense. And this ties totally into the second reason for Shimoda, which is there are no cameras on the promenade, outside of Quark's bar, to see the Jabba walkies run out of there after branding him. Like, you have people putting up nest cameras all over their homes at this moment. And in the 24th century, you don't have as much as one security camera inside or outside

a Quark's bar. I think that's ridiculous. If Raker can catch up on an episode of the show in order to be ready for the next part of the episode that he is in. Exactly. That should be a technology here. And because Odo so oblivious in the face of these, you know, fairly easy to solve dangers, like it would cost him 200 bucks to solve this problem. Yeah. Uh, he is my drunk Shimoda. What about you, Ben? Um, my drunk Shimoda is, uh, I, I think it's the same guard that we get the extended conversation with when it is prostitute proposition

time. Mm hmm. But, um, uh, it is the Cardassian guard that we first see when we reveal the camp. Because this guy, there's a major one that's collecting rocks and putting them in a basket and he gets rifle butted. And then this Cardassian just struts off. And he is like, I guess he's walking down a hill, but the way he's strutting is just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

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Yeah. Gotta get that gold press. That's gold press. That's gold press. Am I right? Oh, yeah. Am I right? Oh, yeah.

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Netflix has it as, after Minister Jero dismisses Major Kira and sensor back to Bay-Jor, Cisco angrily confronts him about his actions. So, the thing I've noticed about the Netflix ones is that they are written by somebody who clearly watched the cold open of the episode. Yeah, that's the best. That's why they're so funny. Yeah.

I'm definitely on team Netflix caps will going forward, dude. I think they are unintentionally funny. I think reading both is the only way to reveal the funny. Alright, fair enough. At least for me, because I don't remember the series that well. Well, I think the thing we do at the end of every episode now is to break out our board game. Yeah.

And, uh, and roll our six-sided die to see what we end up next. So you had to... Gach, that is slash game. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. And we're gonna generate a rant number between 1 and 6 because we are rolling a virtual die. And the number is 5. Tula! Did I win? Hardly.

So that'll be spot seven, which is a clear space on the board. Unadulterated by some crazy mechanic that we or our listeners came up with ahead of time. So that'll be a regular ass episode next week, but hopefully it'll be a lot of fun, because it'll be the middle of an arc, you know? Your empire strikes back is always the best episode in your trilogy, right? Try to think of a bell curve,

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