The Greatest Generation - It Could Be Bajillions (DS9 S7E21)

Episode Date: January 4, 2021

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I'm Ben Harrison. Why is today different from all other days out of it? No filters man. This is a Quark Spar episode. Yeah. It's all coming out. I raised my glass to you friend. I brought two glasses. Wow. What did you bring?

What are we working with here? Maybe you can help me name my order. Because I've got one in the front and one in the back. I've got my Don Ho, high ball ball glass filled with my homemade eggnog. Yeah, so you did like traditional eggnog is a drink that is put by. You make it and you put it in a vessel of some kind, you seal it and you put it somewhere dark and temperature controlled for a long time and let it mellow. You save it for a special occasion like a Star Trek podcast episode.

Which is not something that most people would think to do, right? Like put a bunch of eggs and cream in a jar and then drink it months later. Look, I'm not a scientist. I'm a drinker. And I can tell you that the outcome of this experiment is delicious. It's a leap of faith, much like the sausages I ate for lunch today, which I was like, well, I don't know how long these have been in the fridge, but they've been in there for a long time. Hopefully if I cook them for a while, they'll be safe. Well, as long as they're stuffed with nitrites. Come on, Adam.

I'm sure they'll be good. You know, I don't mess with. I don't want any gunpowder in my meats. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, fair enough. What are you drinking? Well, my, I also brought two. Wait, I got to finish, dude.

I'm sorry. Yeah. And then backing that up. I mean, how do you possibly follow that kind of introduction? Double tequila soda. Otherwise known as the greatest gen live show. Yeah, that's our official drink. Yeah.

I am drinking a spiced daiquiri. It was kind of my holiday twist on a beloved classic where I put spiced rum in place of white rum in my daiquiri. You're doing that thing where you put your leg up on an invisible rum barrel. As you introduce that drink, that's nice. So that's my first drink, a double DAC,

and then I'm backing it up with a mezcal neat. This is that coyote mezcal that a listener sent in on a recent mailbag episode. Very good. And I feel embarrassed that I can't remember the first name even of that listener right now because I don't have it directly in front of my eyeballs. My brain is broken.

You're doing the best you can. Yeah, and the best I can is gonna get worse and worse over the course of this episode at them because this is a Quarx Bar. That's a moving target, huh? It's been a long time since we've done one of these. No rules to the Quarx Bar episode except heavy, heavy drinking by you and me. I just had to turn off the heater in my studio.

I forgot that it was on. I hope that wasn't ruining the sound for the first five minutes of this episode. Heater in the studio, Ben. Who are you? Ben's wife? Yeah. My new work environment is in a Cinder block building that this time of year really gets chilly. I spent a lot of money having this building insulated before I moved into it. Well, you've said a lot of shit over the years, Ben, that has earned you your trip to Guantanamo Bay

where you record your half of the podcast. So you get what you deserve. Yeah, I've crossed a lot of people in the deep state and this is my reward. Yeah, a Quarkz bar episode, a sort of reward for the hosts of the greatest generation. If you're in a place that's safe to do so, I would encourage you to join us. Yeah.

If drinking is not something that you do, I would ask you to stay on the wagon. Yeah, please. And just enjoy how stupid we get. Take delight in knowing that you won't get as stupid as this. Yeah. Well, with that being said, let's get down to it, Ben. We've got a great big deep space nine episode to do here. Unclear about its crumb structure at this point,

but maybe that'll be more clear by the end. Hey, that's a call back to the last episode. I know. It's deep space nine, season seven episode 21, when it rains. Part 5. This episode opens with a Miggloffland group where they're kind of post-gaming the catastrophic outcome of the end of the last episode where

the brain used a energy dampening weapon to just lay wastes to a combined fleet of Klingon, Romulan and Starfleet ships and we've got reps from all three star empires here. We've got Admiral Beltbuckle. Klingon Fleet is the only thing that stands between us and the Dominion. We've got a ROM. You're still up number 20 to 1. We've got MarsTock. I am aware of that. And Chief O'Brien is the one giving them the bad news. The news is that 311 ships were lost or disabled by this green energy weapon, just a terribly chill amount of destruction out there.

Just kind of a reggae adjacent kind of grief happening. Yeah, an amount of ships that were destroyed that would be pretty hot on mid-90s alternative rock radio but almost forgotten years later. Yeah I mean something you put on for nostalgia nowadays. Not many people I think enjoy, enjoy this incident sincerely. But maybe. It was fun to see Chiufau Brian with frosted tips for this scene though. This is fucking spectacular. Yeah, Admiral Beltbuckle changed to a braided leather belt here.

Now for his look. What have we come to? Interesting bit, it trivia here, that there was one bird of prey that did not fall victim to this brain energy weapon. It's the Catang. The Catang. Feel like this is a ship we're familiar with, right?

We hear about the catang, for sure. They adjusted their tridium inner mix to fix some kind of problem and whatever they did, inoculated them against this brain weapon in a way that can be reproduced on all of the Klingon ships but not something that the Federation and Romulan ships can Copy because they use different propulsion systems. So It seems like the Klingon part of the axis. I'm gonna call them because Star Trek's writers didn't come up with a term of their own. They're the only ships that are going to be in play for the foreseeable future until federations, engineers and Romulus' engineers can come up with a way to mimic whatever this is. Everyone wants what's on that sweet sweet catang's ship, you know?

Yeah. Pass it around. Yeah. Puff puff pass when it comes to the catang. So the consequence is that it kind of sidelines every federation and Romulan ship at this point because you need time to retool those ships with the stuff that the Catang's got. And that means there are 1500 Klingon vessels as the only thing between the Dominion and the Allies here. It's a good thing that the Dominion force is not planting a subsequent attack at any point in this episode.

Yeah. So Chivo Bryan finishes his book report and leaves and the kind of heavy hitters start talking about what they're going to do about this. It seems like Mar-tox got a pretty good plan of kind of, you know, using ships under cloak and kind of keeping the dominion on their toes while holding the line. But they're going to have to kind of use the klingons for all their worth in the meantime. But they have a new ally, and that is Demar and the Cardassian rebels. And they're talking about how they're going to support this new rear action that Demar is talking about doing. Half his troops were killed in the assault on Rondak. I was a little surprised by the way this went because they're talking about,

like, you know, Demar is fighting a kind of war that he can't possibly know how to fight. He really needs to think like a rebel. People like Kyle Hudson. Is this like, he's a loose cannon, but he's the best kind of moment? I mean, there are a lot of references to a kind of guerrilla starship warfare happening here, both in space and then like helping the Cardassian resistance

with their own guerrilla style strategy. Did he get killed? Was there like a, hey, Cisco, sorry to hear about your friend, Cal Hudson dying in the battle of whatever, kind of tossed offline? There was exactly that, Ben. It was killed in a skirmish with the Cardassians.

And in saying that you're making me look up the episode and pulling the clip for this. So, but he forgave you. Happy to do it. There was exactly that moment. Yeah, I mean, the other person that knows how to do this, though, and the person that I was embarrassed my mind didn't jump to was Colonel Kira.

Yeah, who knows more about guerrilla resistance tactics than she? You want me to go behind enemy lines and teach a bunch of Kardashians how to be resistance fighters? And as interesting a foil for Demar as Cal Hudson would have been because she also fucking hates Kardashians. When Ceptin Cisco taps her for this job, she resists this for every rational reason. Yeah. Like, this is an awful situation to find yourself if you're her.

And it further muddied the water I felt like of the relationship between the bejorins and the federation in this case. Could she have turned down an order like this to the extent that it even is an order? The way the scene goes is sort of about her being persuaded in the wisdom of this order. Do you find that she's persuaded by the end? So, A kind of know and B, I think I didn't think of her because she's just been so underwritten

in season 7 in general. Like, she's barely been a character on the show in season seven. Like, this scene made me realize, like, oh, fuck, like, we haven't really gotten a cure-a-forward episode in a long time. Yeah. Her wants and needs have, like, been put so far down the list of priorities by the writer's room that I didn't even think of her when they were talking about resistance style warfare. It's a real shame. Squandering that great talent. Yeah. But it did excite me even though I didn't agree with what was happening and I was

resisting for Kira in this scene. What excited me was that she was going to be a big part of this episode, and hopefully a bigger part of the rest of the season. Yeah, also suggested in this scene is that Gerek can help. And specifically, like figuring out where Demar is and how to get in touch with him, because that is not something that has been established yet. This also, another thing where I was like, oh right, like, Garrick has all these like tendrils everywhere, but like, what's going on with the obsidian order?

Does it not exist now that the dominion is there? Was it like- They make a great ally at a situation like this? Right, like- Or not. Like, were they consumed by the intelligence apparatus of the larger alliance that they're a part of, or not, or what?

Like, did the, because the obsidian order always felt like they were kind of like steering the Kardashian empire from the shadows, right? Like, they were taking none of the credit, but doing all of the actual running of state. Yeah. It seems like they would have had opinions when Galdecoat like got them into this fucking relationship.

You would think you assume that they will rear their heads at some point. I mean, you would hope that the deep state would do something when things are as dire as this. Yeah. So that's our setup. Galde cotton, the cotton, gold to cotton. So I thought they were going to show the catang at some point, like the study of the catang, figuring out all of its parts.

Maybe the viewer could learn about how the catang works. Right. There's an outer field, an inner field. Right. There's the cloak, Majora. There's the deflector that some people think is a myth, but if you look under the inner cloak, it's in there. You know, lots of times utilizing the catang in a rear action strategy can bring a fresh new feeling to the entire proceeding. Right. And what's important is that we want what's best for the catang.

Absolutely. That's the first priority. Don't be afraid to get too close. Yeah. Is that what I'm saying? In 6 Bay, Bishir is waxing on about having enough organs for transplantation during wartime. I think this is a viable concern. I'm glad to hear it.

You're gonna need some organs. You're gonna need extra legs, especially. He's got quite a collection. This kind of felt to me like Dr. Bishir was inventing stem cells. Like a breakthrough that happened like a year or two later in medical science is kind of being yeah come up with here like a what if we could just like

squirt something into somebody's body and have it like fix the part of their spleen that is missing and he wants Odo to give him a cup of goo, please. I could have spent an entire episode in this moment. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha on the runabout as he's about to and go on the Kira mission. Can he turn the goo he left behind into mini-odo? He wants the goo back later. Yeah. It seems important to him, but is it like how long does it take for the goo he leaves to die? Does it need to go into the bucket for restoration? The way Odo has to? There are just so many gifts in this episode

of Bashir holding up a glass with a finger full of yellow liquid in it. I was like, I can't believe what luck we have. As some of the most legendary Star Trek shit posters in internet history, what luck the two of us have. I just feel very fortunate to be here at this moment. There's a scene much later where quark brings them coffee in the in the infirmary and I'm like, well, obviously, Bishir is going to accidentally drink Odo. That is the one place

that this setup is going to lead. Right. Doesn't happen. And I want the answer to that question. What happens if you drink go to yeah Does he metabolize or what I'll coat the inside of your throat like so much eggnog You're gonna eat chief wagons chilly take a mouth full of me Just the shot of him like putting his index finger into the into the beaker is like such a kinky way of depicting that. Like he could make the goo from any part of him, right?

Like he could take the beaker from Bashir, turn around and turn back and have it be full, but he put his index finger in it, like he's finger fucking the beaker. This moment is also an opportunity to establish a threat that goes untaken because much in the same way that a new special person may choose to leave something behind, if only to have to come back for it in a way. I kind of wonder why this was never turned into a like, I got to come back for that.

It's a part of me. And that's how you know that Odo is going to try his best to survive the mission. Right. Odo is not George Costanza trying to get back into the thoughts of a girl he's slept with. Or alternately the promise of enough material left behind that Odo would live if Odo Prime died out on this mission. We don't know the math of that either. And I wish we did. I really wanted it like the next scene to be Odo walking down a hallway and care to be like, Odo, are you an inch shorter than the last time I saw you? You know, like I wanted people to like, notice that he was missing a little mass.

If you had to remove mass from yourself, and not for any sort of like cosmetic way, in a practical way, right, you got to take a cup out. Yeah, where you taking it. The easy answer is yeah, my abdomen, like take some love handle out or whatever. And that's the bullshit answer.

Give me something important. For the purpose of this question, it has to have bone. I would say my lowest two ribs so that I could pull a Maryland man's hand, just for once. Yeah, that's a great answer. Yeah. Man, really great. That's probably two cups, just a tad more.

At this point, I think it's probably hair. And I think you measure hair the way you measure brown sugar. Like you can get two cups of packed hair in there and probably make me look pre-pandemic at this point. you could get two cups of packed hair in there and probably make me look pre-pandemic at this point. Well, you know, you're sort of like a pandemic billionaire right Adam, like you could give hair away

to everyone that's lost hair from the pandemic and have the same amount as you had when the pandemic started. You know, I broke my own rules because hair doesn't have bone in it. Yeah. So I need to come up with that. Shoot. I'm thinking about like pinkies or something. Pinkies is good.

What about like, hit bone? I feel like there's a lot of like extra bone in hips. You don't eat all that bone in there. There's so much bone there. Got a production buddy of mine, a camera operator, ended up getting a hip replacement surgery, and he's like 40. Wow.

And it was because, like, all the obvious reasons, like, camops are on their feet, shooting events, like deteriorated on them, just through a career of work. Yeah. No, it's... Like, the thing about hip replacement is, like, you need to keep replacing them at intervals. You're just never the same after it work. Yeah. Like the thing about hip replacement is like you need to keep replacing them at intervals,

you're just never the same after, it sucks. Maybe I'd want to stay away from the hip is what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe that's true. I mean, Camop is just, that's a hard job. The unsung heroes of production, man. Seriously. Back on Bajor, Kai Wynne is filling a tiny bit of regret about all of the knifeing of sobor.

She has done recently. Yeah, she's having to open her letters by hand now. But she is ready to let the paw rates kill kind of a lot of people. Like she's talking to, she's talking to Angel slash du-cat about like, yeah, like, once we let the power a set, like, obviously they're gonna like stand in judgment of everyone on Bejor and the people they deem worthy will survive and the ones that they don't, that's their fucking ass. It's so wild how much of a mystery the numbers are at this point.

Like, the whole question of who they deem worthy could be any proportion of Beijor's population, right? Perhaps I could help. Totally. It made me think a little bit about like, we don't really know how many Bejorans there are on Bejor. It could be billions, it could be millions, whatever. It could be Bejorans, there are on Bejor. It could be billions, it could be millions, whatever. It could be be billions. Right, it could be. But also like if it's just a kind of arbitrary portion

of the population, it kind of doesn't even matter, right? Like what Guy Winn is now doing is going to cause deaths on a scale and she is willing to do it because it will kind of further entrench her power. It's really fucked up man. It's so fucked up and it's so fucked up to watch somebody do that. There's almost a tragedy in it.

It's not a simple matter. I think it's been easy up until now to draw an equivalence between GolduCat's evil and Kiowind's evil for convenience because they're both going after the same goal. But their paths really have been different, right? When gold to cut talks about the blood on his hands, there is a shitload of blood on his hands. There is soulbores blood on kaiwins hands. And that he's able to draw an equivalency between the two in order to encourage her to keep moving forward is incredibly fucked up because as evil as Kiwin has been

up until this point, they're not the same. They haven't been. Right. It's also interesting to watch her like a recoil from his touch in these scenes. I thought my place touch in these scenes. I thought my place was in your bed. Why wouldn't you look at me during?

That was before I knew who you were. Because he has been deceiving her up until now and now like all pretenses dropped. I thought she'd still let him knock it out though. I mean, at this point, what's the difference? He knows he has the staying power to get her there, right? You know, Goldukat has been the captain of a Klingon bird of prey before. He knows all about how the Ketang works.

I've had enough of your distractions. Back on Deep Space Night, they are pretty excited about the impending arrival of their buddy, Gauron. Yeah, there's gonna be a ceremony for Martak with all the fixings, the works. Gonna get the banquet table out. Get the gawk piled high with all the fixings. He's being inducted into the order of

grish. Everybody's pumped about it. There's a little bit of business to attend to, which is that Kira and Garrick are going to be running off to work with Demar. Offscreen Garrick got in touch with Demar and made this arrangement, but there's a bit of an issue, which is that as the Rambo of Rambo 3, Kyra is kind of the worst possible person to be going, because her last name is Spetsnots. So they sort of need to downplay how Bajora and Kyra is. I really love looking at this scene through a modern lens, because you can tell what So they sort of need to downplay how Bajuran Kira is. I really love looking at this scene through a modern lens because you can tell what they're trying to do.

They're trying to, she's all that Kira into a Starfleet uniform, which is fun. It's a fun reveal. But it begins with a minute of men criticizing how Kira looks and what she's wearing without revealing that later. And I don't think that scene plays as well today as it did back then It's so fucked up because like as a child of the 90s You're like, oh man like my all of my all of my conditioning is so problematic

Yeah, and yet when they put Kira in the Starfleet uniform and have her walk down the spiral staircase and quarks while playing Kiss me. I was like I was there for it. I was like Kira wins. She's so hot. Yeah She's the bomb. Yeah, and she's a commander. How do they decide like they field promoter? To be in Starfleet, but then they also three-pipper I wonder how the how the equivalency works, right? Like is it? How do they decide, like, they field promoter to be in Starfleet, but that they also three-pipper? I wonder how the equivalency works, right? Like, is it?

Yeah. Is major, like, a lieutenant commander and colonel is a commander? I feel like we're coming off as nerdy, micro, nerd bullshit people that want to know this stuff. Get a life! But I really feel like this is important. I want the scene where they decide what the PIP equivalency is across Bajoran to start fleet.

Yeah. That would have been nice. Odo changes clothes too. To a guy who looks like he runs an antique store at a tourist town. This is how I dressed when I lived in Palm Springs. I think it should be fine when we go behind enemy lines. I actually have an entire section full of old dolls if you'll follow me. And if you're interested in dust, take a look at this dust jacket.

I actually should have brought this up earlier. We only accept cash. There is an ATM down the block it does have a limit of $200. I would also just based on experience recommend a long shower after leaving my store. I find the smell just kind of sticks to your clothing. You're the line nurse, a bit. And the meringue comes to a fore. And the meringue comes to a fore. And the meringue comes to a fore. What are you doing? What are you doing now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Exactly. So back over with Demar and his resistance cell, they're arguing about who to accept help from

W. Slashar, slash T. Kira. There's a little bit of discomfort involved with this idea from their perspective. It's not just from Kira. Right, this is setting up the racial tension that everybody is worried about even further. And specifically, like, Gold Resort is like, Demar, like, of all of the Bedurans I've heard you talk shit about. What are you doing here?

Kirin Arese, a certain skill she's willing to teach us. Yeah, Kirin is the one you hate the most. And now we've got to depend on her, kind of fucked. I can't believe what I'm hearing. Speaking of fucked, Gauron shows up at Deep Space 9. He gets the full greeting of War of Marta, Cisco, and Admiral Ross. But I kind of thought that they should have pulled out

the formal whites for this, right? Admiral Ross, but I kind of thought that they should have pulled out the formal whites for this right like this is ahead of state and We know that they make this costume and and we know that they made Picard get in the start-fleet uniform every time I had a state showed up on The big D it makes the conclusion to the scene better if they're in whites because if you're dressed up and nowhere to go Mm-hmm Admiral Belt buckle and Cisco's disappointment of about not being invited to their party is much more pronounced if they're dressed up for it That would have been great not even invited worth gets invited because he is a Cling on and because he's sort of been kissed into the house of Murtak

but also like there's so much going on there from a TNG watcher standpoint, because Gauron can't act publicly, like he owes Wurf anything, because of the big secret. And so he's like, cool, great. Well, we'll just act like worse, a tabula rassa, good for him.

He's now a Martockman. He's now a martokman. He's no longer a mogman. And they all like head off to to go get shithouse drunk together. And, and yeah, like Cisco and belt buckle standing there in their whites, just with their jaws on the floor would have been a much better moment. We're deprived of the scene where beltuckel tries to choke down blood wine. We know he's not a confident drinker. Yeah, it should be illegal. I mean, I like how they're treated like a couple of narks.

This is the holiday party scene at any workplace. Right. Like, you go and you find your tribe, you're not necessarily going to go do shots with management. Yeah. You want to buddy up to those guys in specific moments, but not moments like this. The people you could really buddy with are Bashir and O'Brien, and they're speculating about why Ezri has been avoiding Beshear up until now.

Yeah. Beshear even asked her directly and then got called away on Bizz and this is kind of a scene we return to several times in this episode which is Beshear and O'Brien kind of talking over their social lives. Well, Beshear does work and O'Brien kind of talking over their social lives. Well, Bashir does work and O'Brien does not. Can I just say how much I like a examination bed being used as just a place for O'Brien to lounge from time to time in the scenes? He's totally kicking it on bio beds like, hey, what's going on with you bud?

One great thing about the future is that they don't rely on the paper for the examination table, so O'Brien isn't constantly crinkling around on that thing when he relaxes. That's fun. Yeah. Anyways, the scene is just like an embarrassment of riches for us and making gifts about what a piss freak bishier is. You sure you don't imagine things? It's true, and the ever presence of Odo in this glass being the dot that the earlier

scene points to. Can Odo hear what they're saying? Or when Odo is reunited with this material, will he know what happened in its presence? There should be a show Bible just about Odo and how his body works. Yeah. The joy of Odo has hyper realistic pubic hair in drawings inside.

But she is doing some analysis on the morphogenic structure of Odo. We see like a microscopic image of what this material looks like. And I would say that it's hard to describe this is looking like anything but a flock of dicks. Yeah, if your late 90s computer screen saver looked like this. I think it's a fireable offense. The aforementioned Esri walks in and O'Brien gets the hint after a couple of hints that it's time for him to go.

Yeah. And Bashir has made some kind of like creepy mentioned stove, Brian. Yeah, I mean, I've summoned Esri here so that I can use my position as her personal doctor to put the moves on her, or Brian, to his credit, it's like, what? It's not an ethical or something. Well, what's going on here seems pretty pervy. And as there is gonna kind of confess her feelings

for Bashir in this moment, she is not doing it in a way that I would recommend. It's kind of the confession of love in the terms of telling somebody about their diagnosis, kind of things she's doing. It's an order of operations thing, right? Like you never want to confess your love for someone after also confiding that you fucked someone else. Yeah. He totally interprets everything she is saying as, I'm still a worth gal, and he is reading his worst fears

into things that don't actually confirm them, but he's kind of distracted before she can clear this up. She is saying the word love while he is Distracted by his his medical readouts because They're giving him some bad news and he radios up the runabout that Kira Odo and Garic are on to say Odo has the flake Solution Did you get a weird vibe from Bishir's attitude

on this FaceTime? It is so weird and serene, the way he looks and the way he does his line reads as he's breaking this kind of news. I felt like something was off here. Yeah, he's kind of smiley, like, hey, like, there's nothing I can do. He's not that I can do. Yeah, he's kind of smiley like, hey, like, yeah, it felt unintentional. Like, I don't think this is a isbashir a founder situation, but there's enough off about it that it

definitely hit me. Almost like he enjoys breaking this kind of news. Are you sure about this? Because here is like, while we got to turn around, my man is sick, we got to get him into the hospital. The only course of treatment I'd recommend is a lobotomy. I'd stick an ice pick in your cranium and just stir and stir and stir and stir and stir and stir and nothing's happening. Not not you, Odo, you, Kira, just to spare you the pain. You would not remember anything about your life, but at least you wouldn't remember the pain of losing Odo. Kira is, you're right, feeling this moment in a way that Odo is either unwilling or unable to

at this moment in time. And Garek's like, I'm just going to go hit some buttons. Yeah. This is obviously an important part. I'm going to go stand in the back of the run about and take a look at that fruit bowl. See if it ages super rapidly or not. Just something I've heard happens from time to time. Moment later, if I do not stick your junk in the fruble. My balls were pretty high and tight

before and now they are really dangling. I love that all of these scenes of Beijor for the foreseeable, the establishing shots are all at night to sort of ground what's happening here in a kind of secret thing that's happening when people who could stop it have gone home, you know? Yeah, and the secret thing that's happening in this scene is Goldu-Cott is kind of tiptoeing around in Chiwin's office and looking for the Necro-Pamacan, and he finds it and he opens it up. I like how you hear the muted brass instrument of spycraft here when he sneaks in.

Like there's a musical late motif here that's helping. One thing that kind of bumped me out of this scene is he's supposed to be like on super stealth mode, but then he opens the book and starts talking out loud to no one. Like, we know what's going through his head. He doesn't need to say out loud. What have you been keeping from me, my friend? The thing about Goldu-Kat also is that he never needs to be physically sneaky.

Like his, his sneakiness comes from his power and his planning. Yeah. And so to see him kind of slink around, he's too big to slink. This sneaking a peak does not go well, enterprise. DRAW! This is why you're told all the time you never want to read a book at night without a light on it, really strange your eyes. And and when gold to cut tries his eyes get really strained yeah his eyes turn square you cannot see anymore the hubris of gold to cut has finally

been broken he finally jacked off enough to go blind. Foo! It happened as a warning to everyone. You should have, uh, you should let the hair on his palms be a warning, you know, like take that as, as a sign that you need to, to back off, but no, he powered through. He jacked off right through that guardrail and right in a blindness. On DS9, it's cling on ceremony time, which means no palm is safe from the blade. This is something that that belt buckle and Cisco talk about in a pretty fun way. Yeah, they're going to have to get involved in this and that comes as a surprise to belt buckle. Bellbuckles got very soft palms.

It's the thing. Yeah, his hands all soft like he never did work. Big rich emphasis, your daddy's big wins work. If Thelbuck can't do a shot of Romulan ale, what are the chances he does the palm slash without fainting? He's definitely gonna fain, right? And that's why we get the elliptical edit to later. Like we cut to bandage basically.

Yeah, we do cut to bandage and they're like, wow, what a what a shitty ceremony shitty ceremony the klingons throw. And Gauron's like, you think that's Sarah Mone was shitty? Wait till what comes out at the after party? I'm taking a much more active role in commanding my troops. This is so humiliating for Martak because it's in front of everyone.

Like he thought this is supposed to be a celebration in his honor. And it is in a way because the celebration is like, you've done so well that I'm rewarding you by taking you off the thing that you hate. You've been complaining so long about the paperwork and the admin stuff. How about you leave that to me and also the credit? Yeah. It's about credit consolidation, right? Yeah. Garon does not want to let somebody else be a bigger hero of the empire than he is. And so, and it really changes the mood at the after party. You should be happy. You're a warrior again.

The shears on a face time to starfleet medical, talking to Ensign thank you for holding your call is extremely important to us. And he's just not getting anywhere with this guy. He's trying to get Odo's medical records and they're classified and this customer service agent is just not able to elevate the call to a person who can actually make a decision. I thought it was really on point that the hair and makeup department put Bashir in a short bob with a lot of really insane highlights for this scene This is just really carrying his way through the Starfleet medical phone system. A real Julia Collin-Davison, like the first season she got to host Test Kitchen. They've since dialed that way, way back in a better way. Yeah.

But yeah, the power bob. It takes a pair of tongs and put some paper towels and oil and then grease is up the grill just to make sure that it builds up the non-stick polymerized surface of his grill grates. Make sure to demonstrate that before Starfleet Medical basically slams the door on his inquiry. He does not have the proper clearance to get Odo's medical records from them because Oto's medical records are classified. He does get passed around the phone tree a little bit though because Commander Hilliard is on the blower next. And before Commander Hilliard makes with the files, he has some questions to ask first.

Yeah, what are your intentions with my files, Julian? Right, it's clear that Sigma 9 clearances required to access these files. Yeah. And so, like Bashir does his duty by both pleasing that booty and answering the questions. But Commander Hillard's like cool, thanks for answering. Bye.

Yeah. He doesn't make with the files at all. It becomes clear in this scene that like a patient's life being on the line is not a needle mover for Starfleet Medical. And like I think that it's very interesting that the two officers, Bashir talks to and this FaceTime are in red turtle necks. He's a blue turtle neck, they're a red turtle neck, and I think that they are coded as insurance adjusters,

not as doctors. Sounds like a typical bureaucrat flexing his muscles. I love the backstop for this episode and hopefully, like going forward, being that you can't have a cure to this thing fall into dominion hands. Right. So we can't even allow you to try to make a cure to this thing. Right. What are the chances? It obviously would fall into their hands and then, and then we're fucked. Everything that goes to deep space now and winds up on the other side of the line somehow. And this is the thing that Hillier kind of alludes to.

He's like, well, did Odo touch another founder at any point? Yeah. And it's clear that like there's been a, I mean, there's been an unfortunate amount of contact between Odo and other founders over the years that kind of makes you wonder. Really makes you second guess telling your sexual history to a physician, you know. In the aftermath, Bashir tells O'Brien what happened in the Reppelmaa. And I love the conspiracy of Bashir and O'Brien together, passionate out.

I also love O'Brien kind of trying to play Devil's advocate. He's like, I don't know if you remember the last episode, but Earth got fucked up. Like maybe people are paranoid and don't know where they should place their trust right now. Hey Bashir, you never ask about me. Keko was back on Earth visiting our grandma at the time of the attack, but you never ask about it. So I guess I'm

gonna keep this to myself, my grief. Yeah, what is I wonder if we will see Keko before the end of all of this? I hope so. That would be right. It would be right, but also like it feels like she is she a wave for the war. I don't know unlike Cassidy Yates who was not going to be sent away for her own safety. Kiko is like, Oh yeah, that sounds great. Actually before O'Brien even finishes the proposition, like she's booked passage back to Earth. O'Brien's got a great idea here. He's like, you know who might have Sigma 9 access clearance, Ben Cisco. He can get things done. In the Star Trek caves, Kira, Odo and Garek are kicking it to DeMar and Galrosot and the rest of the Kardashians about how to run a resistance operation.

And it's like, hey, you guys are mainline army. You're, uh, your generals fighting the last war kind of guys. Uh, you go to war with the army you have, and not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time. What you need to start doing is thinking in a totally different way. You need to spread out. You need to have small independent groups that don't know much about what the other groups are doing.

So, if they're captured and tortured, they can't give up key information that would foil the whole thing. Demar, I don't know if you have a mom or even a mother figure, they could be a comfort woman to someone like, or that brain guy, but that's a way to survive the war. Hey, listen, even change later, I know is probably like aching for the comforts of something right now, anything. So, Demar, if that's a sacrifice, you'd be willing to make. Excellent.

Everything Kira says makes a ton of sense to the degree that I started to lose faith in the resistance here, because come on, man. You put all your spoons in one basket. You do really need to spread out here, and not keep all of your guys in a Star Trek cave. She's just a lot of interesting stuff. Like, it's not just that.

It's also like you need to be willing to attack stuff where other cardacians will die if you attack it. If they are collaborating, if they stay loyal to the dominion, then you need to be totally willing to end lives if it will advance your cause. Because if you're unwilling to attack targets that contain cardacians, that's going to be used against you. Tomorrow is a quick study on this. Like, Galbra Saut is like, fuck that. Like, we're attacking Dominion and Breene targets only. And tomorrow is like, no, like you're right. We need to

look at like the low hanging fruit, the stuff that will really hamper the Dominion's ability to prosecute their war and if Sometimes that means a cardassian garrison is gonna get it like that's the price we need to be willing to pay like We're in this. It feels like the light bulb moment. Yeah, it's the entire reason the cure was sent. Dama, not another word, resets. Speaking of the right person to put on the job, Bashir has gotten the medical files. He asked Cisco to call in a favor,

and he got the scan of Odo that Starfleet medical performed back on the trip to Earth where founders were everywhere. And it's like, it's a hell of a scan, right? Like this is a ton of data. He's really excited about looking through it. But they noticed that this is seen as about like both, Bashir has decided that Ezri is not a tree.

He can bark up and O'Brien being like, what are you talking about? I just talked to Wharf and Wharf was like, yeah, it's over between me and her. So she's playing the field, I guess. And also, then I'm going like, wow, this file from Starfleet Medical is clearly doctored. It's a fake.

Hey, O'Brien, hold on a second, I'm going to turn around, I'm going to turn back, okay? It's a fake. And O'Brien is delighted, he fucking loves, wouldn't be sure does character work. Yeah, yeah. You're really originatically announced, aren't you? Yeah, and what they realize is that this is the doctor, Dr. Mora that discovered Odo, the named Odo by naming him unknown sample, is the person who actually made this scan.

Starfleet medical made a fake medical record using Dr. Mora's data and tried to pass it off to Bashir as the genuine article. And this is the argument, though. They're like, this, it's definitely medical would not pass along a fake file. Like, that's not what they do. This is more of a section 31 thing, right? Yeah. And they start knocking it around a little bit and they're like, yeah, this is section 31, isn't it? Because it's worth it to let Odo die to keep a cure from falling into the Founder's gooey hands. Like, that's a section 31 thing all the way.

Yeah. Morning, morning, morning, steams sweet, morning, morning, morning, morning, morning, morning, steams, stop, have a time. In the wardrobe, war for Marthacker, discussing Galaron's reasons for taking command of the fleet. And it's clear that he just wants the credit for the victory. Marthock's going to clear a shit out of the office, and I'm excited because I want Galron to be a part of the show up until the end. I think that's going to be a good get for us.

It's a little sad to see Marthock fill his banker's box with like his photo of... Yeah. This is my prized targ. Ha ha ha ha. Ah, some of my favorite eye patches. I find even a warrior should decorate his workplace with personal items. Ha ha ha. Here's a cactus, an earth plant given to me by Cisco. Here is a revealing, but not too revealing photograph of my wife, taken in a cling-on shopping mall.

And don't tell my wife that here is a pen that has lursan betor wearing bathing suits. But when you tilt the pen the other way, the bathing suits, come off. Did you say pen? Yeah, you know what are you referring to? Those pens that have like a lady in a bathing suit? No, I don't know. What is that? What? There's a type of pen atom that you buy in a tourist town.

Do I have to look at bathing suit pen? There's like a lady and a, there's a lady in a bikini and then you tilt the pen and the bikini comes away. Oh, are you familiar with this type of pen? Naked lady pens are what I googled and they are what I got. Yeah. All right. This is a famous type of pen. are what I Googled and they are what I got. Yeah.

All right. This is a famous type of pen. I'm surprised you haven't encountered this type of pen. You know, as an enthusiast collector of classic pornography, I thought I would have already known about this. A tip-and-strip pen. I'm seeing as a term of art for this type of pen. That's big fun. Sign an important document with the tip and strip.

Hey, that's how you make sure that the recipient gets the wet version. If you know what I mean. Yeah. So back with the resistance, the parties are arguing about what is and isn't appropriate conversation among the group. This mixed group that includes Kira and Odo. And Eric. Kicking some shit to Odo about like,

wow, how could you even collaborate with the Cardassians? Like aren't you all Cardassians? It's like that scene from Roxanne, where Steve Martin gets called big nose. Like the record scratches in the cave, everyone gets quiet. You didn't just accuse Otto of being a collaborator, right? What are you getting?

I don't. The stack is blown. The room is cleared out. Nobody really wants to, nobody wants Kirit to come for them the way they sent for her. Like she's gonna flip them shit that they cannot handle, but cooler heads prevail. That's such an interesting point.

Like the moment you trip her wire, I'm not sure you can predict what would happen. Right, like she has a fucking dustbuster on her hip. She could fucking cut everyone's head off in the room. But she's also a company woman. Like, the whole reason she's there is because it's mission above person. Yeah. And she takes her rage out on a bunch of empty canisters in a different room. She's a pretty fun physical acting from the novice there where she kind of walks into

this room where all of the supplies that they've brought for these cardacene rebels are stacked up and just punches and kicks until she's cooled off a bit and uh... Odo walks in and it's like you broke all your little canisters. You're just like Captain A. Hab looking for his whale or whatever. I don't know what it weigh, Elias, and I don't know what I've never read the book. I've never read a book aside from old mystery novels from earth. Kira is like good talk and leaves. And then Odo being left in the room looks down at

his hand. And he notices the flakiness. Yeah, he's got the flake starting to starting to present. And he does not tell Kira. Now he pulls his sleeve over over the top. He does. It's that sucking in that change later did when she met with the brain, right? Like the I can't let anybody see this. You wonder like what that feels like, right? Like to hold the look when you know that if you're not focused on it, it will go to flake. I mean, it's like that moment. You recognize that you have bad posture and you like snap back to good posture.

Yeah. I'm gonna do it on. Oh, this feels better. I'm gonna keep a cool head. It's permanent night on Beijor, and we're back there again when Kiwin enters Gold to Cots' quarters. He's still blind, and just sitting in a chair in the corner.

I feel like we skipped some scenes, not you and me skipping scenes of describing the episode. I mean, the show itself skipped scenes to get us to this point, because he's just on a stool in a room just sitting there blind. He's been abandoned. You've abandoned my goal. And she doesn't tell him that she's entered the room immediately. And yeah, like he feels like real scared and that's only going to get worse because she's

here to kick him out of the palace and into the gutter. She's got a pejoran security guy to kind of grab him by the scrap of his neck and throw him out. I think the scene is the moment where you can decide whether or not the show has done a good job in making the case that Goldicott is evil forever or if at any point you could marshal any kind of empathy for him. Yeah. This is the inflection point. Like, did the show do a good job or a bad job in that? And what is a good job in a bad job?

Like, are you supposed to feel empathy for him or not? Right, or are you supposed to be like, finally, Golducada's getting what he deserves? Because out of the palace and into the gutter means he is not there to be, to shepherd the evil plot of the Pahraiths, right? And as was referred to before, like the Pahraiths sorting out all the Bajorans

is going to happen at him instead of with him conceivably. Right, it's such a complicated moment for him. It's an interesting sentence because the sentence of Hobo Duca has terms that go as long as a site is gone. There's the idea presented that like you're out in the gutter until you get your site back and it's up to the pyarase to determine how long that is. If it's gonna happen. Tommy, listen to me, please.

But Tommy! W.D. Bo-Dan is so happy to do this. Like a tertiary character. We get a couple of times in this episode and he is psyched to throw him out on his ass. I only wish we saw it. Yeah, like why deprive us of the scene of the door flying open and do caught flying into the heap of rubbish, right?

It is worth a remote for that, isn't it? Should have. I think so. Instead, what we're given is like the pleasure that Ki-Win gets from this moment. We get close in on her and she does the smile of an evil person. Now I've got the power rates all to myself. On Deep Space 9, Galron is sharing his strategy with War from Martak. The strategy is to go on the offensive. It's not to lay back in the cut.

It's not just to hold the line on the border. It's what the Dominion would least expect is going on the offensive, and that's what he wants to do. He's a big believer in the element of surprise, and the surprise being, wow, your whole alliance is completely fucked up. I can't believe you would try something like this right now. It's so familiar to anyone who's ever worked a job anywhere for the war to be under new management.

A new manager has never been to your store before, has never been to your neighborhood. Doesn't know anything about the customers, but it's just like, I'm the new manager, and here are my new ideas, and this is how it's going to be. It's an amount of hubris that feels right at home for Gauron. Isn't it interesting how similar that is to Kiwins motivations? Like the go for glory. The glory play is what they're both doing. And Gauron has like always been that.

I mean, he's been that for two different series of television, but in a way that is just off of being as grody as it feels with Kiwin. Yeah. I don't know why he slightly seems less awful than she does, but he does. I think it's because it's never been put in terms of how many of his people are going to die

because of. That's a great point. And she has always confronted with the numbers and is like, doesn't matter to me, I'm Kiwin. Yeah. Back in the infirmary, we get our button. It's Bashir and O'Brien talking about what to do with these fake files. Does O'Brien have a job?

Does he have, is he, like, the last episode we were like, yeah, like I just spent 18 hours reconfiguring the EPS conduits on the hood. I need a break with my buddy and my model of the alamo. The thing that goes unsaid in all of these scenes lately is how fucking thrilled O'Brien has to be. Without, he's got no domestic responsibility at all. As it would seem. He can chill in the bar as long as he wants. He never talks about missing his wife and kid.

Man made prison, you're doing time! He's down for whatever. Just chilling on the bio bed at his friend's job. Well, his friend works, but he doesn't. No, maybe a little later he'll play some video games. Yeah. Maybe jack off three or four times and then go to bed. It's a very like Italian lifestyle, right?

Grab a crawler, have an extra large, three polymers, take a big dump, that's kind of the routine. Like they like, quirk shows up with a tray with coffees on them and it's like, wow, you like came down the street from your other business with coffee for us? I thought it was weird as hell that they called this beverage coffee.

Is this the first mention of coffee in a long, long time? Why isn't it Ratcagino? Everybody drinks rat cajino. What are they doing? This is like drinking falters, yeah. Instead of the good stuff. Quark knows Odo is sick. That's a way to learn from this scene. Somehow he knows it. And he's hoping the coffee can help solve the mystery. He wants to help, but he doesn't want anybody to know that he wants to help. But she's too distracted to drink the coffee, which is the moment I thought for sure he'd reach

for the Odo and take Odo to the dome. I thought so too. Please God, I've never wanted anything more than that on this show. And what if he like really got a taste for it? Like, I thought I like urine, but this is incredible. You know, it's actually better, the second time through. It's like a glass of microscopic penises. Bissier can't drink anything, and it's sad. You can tell this pains him. Cause usually, he'd be going for the beverages at a moment like this, but he's figured it out.

Yeah. The day Odo was at Starfleet Medical three years ago, that was when he was intentionally infected with the morphogenic virus. Yep. Starfleet did this intentionally and counted on him infecting others. See? They're like, hey Odo, why don't you go into that public restroom and sit down on that toilet seat? And then you go back, go back to the station and then sit on all the seats back there. And Odo, for some reason, was like, oh, hey, you're saying I don't need to wear a mask

to protect myself and others. And then it's revealed. Like, now we get our mission for this O'Brien Bashir team. They need to get the cure. They need to hide the cure. And especially they need to hide the cure from section 31. And then it's like cut to black. We aren't even messing with transitions into the credits at the end of this, at the end

of these episodes. It's pretty stunning, right? It's like this section 31 thing that has seemed like a semi-late monster of the week, a couple of times, is actually like maybe the biggest villain in the whole universe. The founders maybe are bad, but the section 31 are genocidal maniacs that will stop it nothing to stop them. And that is a pretty stunning revelation. Did it stun you enough to like the episode, Ben? You really want to do this. Here, now, okay, okay, let's do it, do it.

Also, a drink check is what I want to do. I'm almost to the bottom of my double tequila soda. Oh, wow. I really mowedered. I'm maybe halfway through my second beverage, the coyote miscal that I'm drinking here. That's the coyote? And I'm way past done with the Spiced Dackery.

There's a lot I liked about this episode. I think it was a very well-directed episode, an episode directed by Michael Dorn, who I feel like doesn't get as many turns in the chair as some of the other cast member directors, but I think turned in great work with this script. Yeah. I think like maybe it's a recency bias, but the couple of episodes leading to this one felt like much more cogent thrusts toward an end game. Then this one, this one felt like it was kind

of like burning time and adding complication in a new way that, you know, I found a little annoying, I guess. But I would say overall, I'm feeling positive about this one. How about yourself? This felt like an interstitial episode. This felt like connective tissue to me. That's not saying that the episode is bad. I'm saying that I'm feeling more and more like all of these episodes are meant to be binged and not taking as singles like we're doing.

Right. I think it only benefits the viewer if you were to really crush these in a take-all afternoon and watch the last run of DS9. Like I think that's the intention here and I wonder how satisfying it was to a person watching it week to week. I think we're given the benefit of watching it in chunks the way we've been doing for the purposes of our production. But I don't know how, in episode like this works in isolation on its own with a week before and a week after. I get the sense that it doesn't work as well.

And all that being said, I like the episode, but it makes me wonder. Yeah. It's interesting, because this is a show that predates binging. They couldn't have written this with the idea that people would watch the next one immediately after it in mind. Right. And and yet I think you're right. It like works better that way. Well, one thing that works 100% of the time is our priority one message system. Ben, what do you say we go over there and see what we got? You're gonna get now fight from me.

Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, our first priority one message is from the GOOACH!

The GOOACH I think is almost up to a free sandwich on his priority one punch card. His message is to Ben and Adam and the FODs and the message goes like this back in the before times. In the long ago of the 2000s I made a call. I chose Facebook over Twitter. Now, you have forced me to return to Twitter. Wow. I don't know how it works. Hashtag, A time, At Ira the Gooch. At me? Yeah. Ben and Adam FOD's helped me out here.

Friend or follow me? Whatev. Hashtag clam beer. Clam beer sounds good. Someone out there help with the Guch. The Guch who has helped us so much with the support of many, many priority one messages. Guch, if you really have gotten 10, I will absolutely give you a free one. And I'll extend that offer to anyone any other of our

Of our friends at the Soto Wow 10 priority one messages. I'm gonna give you a free one for the 11th gauntlet thrown the punch card has been invented here today Yeah Is at Ira the Gooch a Um, is at Ira the Gooch a... A real account? Is that... have you uh, looked into this? I love Ira the Gooch's account. Last tweeted in 2013. And then, getting back on to Twitter November 18th.

That's a long time away. I mean, here's the thing. There were no good social networks, right? Now they're all evil from one extent to another. But we appreciate the the Gucci's work here. Certainly do. And a hashtag Glambier. Just a tattered P1 punch card over there and I wear the Gucci's wallet. Yeah. Adam, we have another priority one message here. That is from Eric. It's to Adam and Ben.

It's so many of these P1s lately are to us. I know. It's intense, but here it goes. Hey Ben and Adam, long time viewer. First time P1er. Love the show, can't believe I got through. I've been wondering, how do you curate all the movie and TV clips that you use in the pod? Is there a catalog or do you use your encyclopedic knowledge to hunt down a scene from a 30 year old movie?

Also, are you still answering five star review questions if so? Buck, I'll take my answer off the air, Eric. This is a really good question. And no one's gonna believe my answer, which is too bad, because you'll have your opportunity to answer this question. But personally, when I edit an episode, as I'm going through it and making cuts and thinking of drops and stuff, none of this is coming from notes. Very little of it is coming from our conversation. It's coming during the edit where something happens that makes me

think of a moment in another piece of media that I go out and get. Like it's very improvisational during the edit in a way that's extremely satisfying as a creative person because you get this rep right now that we're having, but you also get a second rep to put a hat on a hat whenever you want to. I think it's very much the same for me. Like occasionally I will think of something that a moment in an episode makes me think of

in another thing. A character makes a similar turn as another piece of media. And sometimes that will be a kind of latent thing in my notes that gets totally washed away by the conversation we have about it when we talk about it in an episode. And it's a bit like improv, right? Like you may have an idea about how a scene is going to go, but you have to be willing to flush it down the toilet if the game takes it in a different direction. You have to be willing to let it go.

Yeah. Any form of editing is about killing your babies, right? It's like, whatever is gonna make this the best thing it can be in this moment right now is the thing I wanna do for it. And forcing it into a corner that it doesn't fit well in is a temptation that I think is best resisted in the editorial process. So like, there are things in the world where I,

I do keep like a little list of notes. Like if I see something in a show that I'm watching that just feels like, oh shit, like this could be a drop someday, I will like, I'll be like, okay, what episode and what's the time code, and I'll just write it down. And I have like, I have, I have 30 things in a note on my phone that are like that, and most of them go unused, because I just they're rarefied, you know, like I'm not, like I'm not going to use them unless there's a perfect moment for it. I feel a little stunted in that way, like I'm not gonna use them unless there's a perfect moment for it.

I feel a little stunted in that way because I don't have a similar series of notes. I'm just depending on the comedy stuff that stuck to me over the last 10 to 20 years. Well, I think that my note is probably a reaction to how good a memory you have for that stuff because I'm always impressed with your ability to draw on some very specific moment

in a movie from 1987 that just is like, impregnated in your mind in a way that I'm like, oh, I've seen that movie 15 times, and I didn't remember that guy said that at that moment. I can't explain how this is worse. I'm sorry. I wish I could. Yeah, but good question.

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I think you're now looking at kind of the back half of 2021 for P1s on this show, just based on what I'm seeing on the calendar. So if Yeah, if you if you have something Time sensitive think about it in kind of six-month terms and think about it in Star Trek Voyager terms. Yeah, specifically Absolutely. We've got a brand new show coming. We sure do Hey Adam. What's that been? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda!

God, I don't know. I can't decide who my Shimoda is going to be. It feels like it's an O'Brien Shimoda. He hasn't been seen at work in now a couple of episodes. He was kind of called up for it and I think it was the last episode right there. Like what are you doing playing with your dolls in quarks and he's like I just worked a double. Yeah and you know like you can't dispute he was on the little D when it was destroyed.

So he was at work that day. I'm not going to go defiant a ratio on that moment. He does work quite a bit. We don't need to see it for there to be proof. But it does seem like he's chilling the most lately in a way that is very admirable. Maybe because this one is so difficult for me, I'm gonna make O'Brien my Shimoda.

Speaking of the defiant, I kind of feel like more airtime in this episode could have been given to missing their ship. Like, there was a little like, yeah, she was a great ship and you'll have a new one eventually kind of kind of shit talked, but like, I feel like the Defiant is a character out in the show and should be mourned as such. Many people felt that way, Ben, and what I read in the production notes was that they really thought a lot about whether or not to do her like that. And they felt like much like destroying the galaxy class a couple seasons ago. Like this was a great moment to emphasize how serious the circumstance was. But the thing is, like, you do need that time to grieve

an important loss Yeah, and if we are really made to care about a ship the way that you're describing Like there should be a look out a window Specifically they got a cut to the wide shot. We never cut to the wide shot for the little D and I think that's sad Yeah, what about you, Ben? My Drunk Shemota is a soulbore, another legend that we stand in this episode. Cut to the wide chat for soulbore. Yeah, he got a knife in the kidney. Got done real dirty.

I think he's my Drunk Shemota for not sending a copy of the dirt he'd uncovered to the Washington Post, you know. Yeah. Like, that's your first step. RSVP SoulBoar. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all.

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People love that nth degree episode, right? Oh, shit. If I roll a six, that's where we go. But you never roll a six at him. Never do. Speaking of things that are the number 21, the next episode is see his and seven episode 21 when it rains. Wait, no, that's what we just watched.

Shit. The next episode is season seven episode 22 tacking Into the wind. Kira masterminds a plot to obtain an enemy weapon While Wurf investigates a dramatic power shift within the Klingon Empire. Here's the thing This show owes the Navisitor from here on out. Yeah. Every single episode should be a Kira episode to the end.

It really shit. In many ways this series started with her. Like the idea of a resistance warrior having to live on a ship with Starfleet right above Beijor during like in the aftermath of the Cardassian occupation. It was as much or more her show as it was, Ben Siskos. I think it's only right if she brought it home. I hope she does.

You're required to learn as you play, roll. Roll that bone, Adam. I rolled a fucking one. It's all I ever do. I rolled a one. Tula! Did I win? Harvey. We're on square seventy three. Cool. There we go. I don't know what it is about this game and me. It's statistically improbable,

I would say, that I roll as many ones as I do. I would love, I know that there's some friend of your soda that is capable of doing a statistical analysis of your roles. I would really be impressed to see what your likelihood of rolling a one is relative to mean. I'm just scrolling through the admin page and it looks like there's quite a bit of ones in the last 120 rolls. I mean, every other roll has got a very high likelihood of being a one, I feel like. It sure seems that way, but what it means for you and me is a regular, old episode.

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