The Greatest Generation - It Isn't Quite Spooky, But It Is Upsetting (S4E17)

Episode Date: December 5, 2016

When the Enterprise responds to a distress call sent by a ship full of dead bodies, what the away team finds over there keeps everyone up at night. But when sleep issues threaten to kill everyone on the ship, it's up to Counselor Troi to find a solution that may have something to do with her weird pot dreams. Is this episode a sequel to The Naked Now? Will a B-plus Pacino impression cut it on this podcast? Could Riker's hair be an instrument for measuring the crew's health? It's the episode that's basically Nagilum's wet dream.

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and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Welcome to the greatest generation of Star Trek Podcast by two guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek Podcast. I'm your host, Adam Pranicko.

I'm your other host, Ben Harrison. I just bumped my microphone with my beer. Sorry about that. Oh, look at you. That's a little bit of podcast fluid to keep this thing going. just bump my microphone with my beer. Sorry about that. Oh, look at you. That's a little bit of podcast fluid to keep this thing going. That's what you need, isn't it? Yeah, it's that time of day here.

It is, back on separate coast, where we belong? Do you want to open some baseball cards to kick this show off at them? Baseball cards with Star Trek characters on them? Yeah, that's great. Not baseball characters. The game is five cards stuffed. The game is exceeding.

They're simple. What are these just the cards there? I have to pluck a pigeon. They're not even really characters mostly. They're mostly just episodes. I feel like that's a concept you sell in the room. So they're not baseball cards. Nope. I feel like that's a concept you sell in the room. So they're not baseball cards.

Nope. So they're cards of television show characters. Nope. They're baseball cards about episodes of the show. Oh, I got a fun one. Oh yeah? Right on the top. I got a comic book card. Oh cool. I have a fun one. Oh yeah? Right on the top. Ooh. I got a comic book card.

Oh cool. I have one of those. It's the cover of a comic book. It's DC's. Star Trek the next generation. Issue 77. Neat. It's like some really angry Starfleet officers on the cover of this one.

Episode 77 is called Gateway. Four years ago, Solonage in based life forms experimented on members of the Enterprise crew resulting in one casualty. Oh. Lieutenant Ed Hagler. Brother of Hornet Captain Nora Hagler. Now the aliens are back and Hagler wants revenge. Wow. You know, Starfleet officers tend to really be all about revenge, right? Yeah. That's a common theme in this show. Of course, there would be a comic book about it.

Could really use the Lea Brahms revenge episode that we know is coming. Yeah. I've got a lot of repeats. I don't know if I have all these but I know we've opened up every single one of these between the two of us. I've got devils do. I've got time zero part two. I've got win the bow breaks. I've got yesterday's enterprise and the last one, probably the funnest of the pack is for the last outpost, the episode in which we meet the Ferengi and the guy who tells them that they call him Tim. The dominant image on the cars, that guy represented with beady little eyes, but in silhouette in front of him is riker unmistakably standing on the edge of anybody canyon and uh... man if we ever do another t-shirt at him i i really want to do an anybody canyon t-shirt yeah that would be ideal and someone put together a postcard

for our show based on a different uh... a different place but i feel like the visit anybody canyon tourist postcard would be a really great idea. You know what? Oh, I just had a great idea. It's the anybody Canyon t-shirt, but we get a shirt that's a deep V. And so it's all about that cleavage. You know what I'm saying?

Is there an arrow that points to the V part? I'm with anybody Canyon. Yeah, it's even more rickery. It's got a deep V. It's got anybody Canyon, which is interpretable as a boob's joke, and it's sexy, and we can have it come from the Riker collection. Did you say it's sexy with visible air quotes? It's a podcast. It's a non-visual medium, Adam, which is probably related only slightly to the episode we're reviewing today.

Season four episode 17. The Halloween episode of Star Trek, the next generation, Night Terrors. Is it really a Halloween episode? It sort of feels like a Simpsons-esque tree house of horrors episode of Star Trek the next generation. Yeah, it sure does. It's an episode that begins with some creepy, creepy, deepy music, and the enterprise is like pulling into this star system that's got two two stars it's a binary star system and they are looking for a missing star

fleet ship called the USS Bretaine and within 20 seconds of entering this star system they have found the Przene episode over. The idea of a ship being a drift for a couple weeks is scary as fuck though. Like, and I might a few times this episode just go out there and sort of make the case for why this shitty episode works. This is one of them. Like, this is a real event horizon type opening, like ghost ship style. Yeah, I would concur with that conclusion. The Britaine, there's a lot of parallels

with the Shimoda episode. What's the Shimoda episode? Time bandits. Naked now. The naked now, yeah. God, I can't believe I forgot that. That's foundational, man. I should be kicked off my own Star Trek podcast.

So the D pulls up alongside the Britaine, and they do the scan for life forms. And they get some weird signals back. So Picard decides to send over in a way team. Troy is like, yo. I need to come to. They beam directly to the Britann's bridge and they poke around for a good two minutes.

Before Riker walks to the bottom of the Britann's horseshoe and sees the captain with like a cutlass stabbed through his chest. Yeah, was it a dude or a lady captain? I just meant like the royal hyz. Sure, sure. The weird part isn't the gender of the captain bin. It's that this ship has been a drift full of dead bodies for weeks,

and the smell isn't the thing that tipped them off. It's so fucked up, like Riker's sort of Riker squints at the gore in front of him. Yeah. But good Lord, could you imagine how that bridge smelled? These officers have been dead for weeks. They make a bleak references to these ships being self-cleaning every so often. And I wonder if that has something to do with this, if decay smells are mitigated somehow

automatically by the ship. But yeah, there are a bunch of dead bodies and they are dead in all different types of ways. And it's sort of a negilum wet dream. Yeah, yeah, you got 100% this time. It went great. But yeah, Troy is like, hey, there is somebody alive here and he's right behind door number two

and they pry this door open and there's like a weepy and distracted man, you know, hunched up in the corner and he's kind of like, he's not with it, he's not there in the present, but he's alive and fairly unscathed seeming. So they're looking at him and sure he's like, this dude, this dude is betasoid. I can just tell. I can tell by the darks of his eyes. Yeah.

His jet black eyes is huge, huge pupils. It didn't seem because he was not wearing a starfleet uniform, that he was a member of the crew in the same way that Troy is. Did you get that sense? Yeah. What was his you get that sense? Like what was his role on that ship? This is a weird ship because it's also, there's also some people in those like dumpy uniforms

that you see Federation scientists swearing from time to time. Yeah. Like sitting at control panels. So presumably they're like bridge crew, but not officers or something. I don't know. It's going on over here.

And this is not a galaxy class ship with families. This is a del Sol class starship. This is not even hood class. Yeah, it's very subhood. So they bring this guy back on board and they strap him to a six bay bed and they put Troy to work on him. They're like, can you get through to this guy? He's just catatonic. Yeah, he's not moving. He's not saying anything. So Deanna does that thing where she talks with her mind and her mind alone. Uh-huh. It's a little echoey.

I'm right here. And he is not into either talking verbally or with his mind at this point. Yeah. He's spewing all sorts of sentence fragments and stuff that doesn't make sense. Oh, there. Moistus. What you got is a shell-shocked betasoid on your hands here. It's going to be a tricky bit of therapy to get him back on his feet. And it seems at this point there is no music box left on the pertain for Troy to use on him as a prop.

I wasn't anywhere near that system. I had nothing to do with destroying his mind. It wasn't me I swear. It may have been another doubt. But not me, Captain Becurd. Genocide is not my bag these days. I'm more of a salesman. I tend to dovet conventions and ply my trade as the galaxy's foremost crafter of sex dolls. I wouldn't need to music box somebody. I can be open and honest about who and what I am now. That's the freedom you gave me Captain Picard. You should have punished me for my crime, but in Fjid, you gave me a beautiful gift.

I think I'm done. You really... That's like the only character we do anymore. You took this on a beautiful journey there. Well, anyways, the order of business is like, let's bag up these bodies, bag them and tag them. Let's see what we can figure out about this one betzoid that survived whatever happened. Let's get this ship, the Britaine,

powered back up and head back to Federation Space. And then we can get onto our next adventure. At this point, like, I think is when they realize that the Britaine is stuck in the mud and they can't really figure out why. All the engines seem good. The, you know, deuterium injectors and plasma manifolds are great, but whenever they put their foot down on the gas pedal, it just spins its wheels and are re-strategizing around the idea of towing the Britaine with the tractor beam. But meanwhile Dr. Crusher brings some captains logs to Picard's attention. She's been looking through the captain

of the Britaine's YouTube channel and this woman is not super healthy looking. She looks pretty unhinged. She's like ripping at her hair while talking about, you know, paranoid delusions of her first officer trying to overthrow her. Adam, we know that a starship captain can basically be as crazy as they want to be, and their first officer will never go crimson tied on them and removing from power. I'm captain to this boat. That's Jett of fuck up!

I gotta believe that Picard's watching this video and going, that's never gonna happen to me. I mean, first of all, I have no hair to rip out. Yeah. Yeah. So we smash cut from this to a bunch of dank Chiba clouds. Troy is standing in a room. His cloudy is a studio that Snoop Dogg is recording in and everything is green so you know it's pot and

And her feet are lifted off the ground so she you know she's high and She tilts toward camera so you can get a load of her sweet sweet cleavage and the two dots of light in the distance are like and the two dots of light in the distance are like yelling crazy shit about two moons and two eyes or one moon orbiting two eyes or whatever. And she just keeps yelling. It's a total space buffalo bill voice too. Like they put it through the buffalo bill filter.

The buffalo bilter? Certainly they do Adam. Am I drunk? I got started early, Ben. So yeah, this is, it turns out a dream. You're gonna fucking ding the Buffalo Builder, aren't you? No. I damn it.

I'm, I typically ding funny things that you say. Not, not funny things that I say, Adam. All right fine So pressures on if you if you don't want Buffalo built or to be the title. It's on you It's sending messages to Troy like was she a great big fat person Help me get this this set you in the back of my friend get this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, that's what we were trying to figure out. And I like, I love that line so much that I wish it was in silence of the lambs.

That's what we're trying to figure out. Your Pichino is B plus. Like all my impressions, it's not that great, not that terrible. I sort of got who that was supposed to be. Anyways, so Troy's having these crazy nightmares about being in a weed dream and that kicks off maybe 20 minutes of just vignettes of characters walking around the ship, having hallucinations and you know perceiving things that aren't there, getting freaked out, the works, you know, like this is your emo crewman working with Jordi on the brutain, hearing voices on the ship. Jordi has to tell him that's not how it

works. A random fight thrown in between Keiko and O'Brien just to like remind you that they hate each other's guts but are nonetheless married. O'Brien going to drink in 10 forward and a crewman telling him ghost stories Just a bunch of fun odds and ends. It's weird how little you see in all these vignettes, right? It's all it's all telling and never showing Mm-hmm even miles and Kiko's telling Ovella scene is like is miles

Accusing Kiko of something that we never see have never heard about up until now and we'll never hear about again Yeah, like the the Ensign John Mulaney character on the on the pertain like does the same thing He's hearing stuff, but we don't really hear it the way he does if this was a true honoured house story You think we would see a little bit more, but always see our reactions. I don't feel like that was particularly effective in raising the tension for me. Did that work for you? No, and I think you really hit the nail on the head. It's all telling and no showing in this episode.

Once we've gone through that series of vignettes, they're just having a McLaughlin group. If you walk, date is like, here is the type of space rift we are stuck in. Like, there's no moment of discovery with that. Yeah. They've just got to figure out how they can make a big enough explosion to get out, which is like the dumbest fucking solution

you could possibly imagine. Then you like, go back for some more weird experiences, you know, Captain Picard getting convinced that he's being crushed by the elevator, the doctor standing in the huge morgue and all the bodies sitting up all at once, which is a fun scene because she drops her iPad and I was immediately like, oh, that's 89 dollars if she has Apple care. Ooooo. The doctor seems to be the only person on the ship besides data like who can control herself with these waking nightmares.

Like, she actually closes her eyes. Go away. It opens them again and her nightmare has subsided. Like, yeah. That's the only version of that that we get. Everyone else seems to be pretty crushed under the weight of these things. Well, the doctor is the one that figures out

what's happening. It turns out that there is something wrong with the universe this time. Yeah. That's early in her to kind of like working through that, I guess. It shows her being dedicated to science in a way that many previous episodes have abandoned in her character.

Yeah. So I thought that was cool, but yeah, it's just, it's a bunch of scary moments and it all leads to Captain Picard realizing that they're all basically losing it. And so he calls data into the ready room and it's like I think putting putting the ship in data's hands maybe the worst nightmare of all Adam Yeah, I thought he was on probation It's a tiny principle with a pretty face. Are you not finding within yourself to stand up telling truth?

You don't deserve the wealth that you never bought. They do sort of a great passage of time here to demonstrate the way in which the crew is falling apart over the long term. And I think to me, they've just gradually turned down the water pressure day after day because you get some real terrible hair here as the days go on and that really shows more than anything just how unhinged everyone has become. I love like just like just through Rikers hair alone.

Yeah. Like you can really see. You can really see how fucked up things are. Like, it goes from being like, like perfectly quaffed to just like, just a hot fucking mess. He's like full Bernie Sanders by the end of this episode. It really made me think about the hair and makeup person's job for an episode like this

because it's one thing to style bad hair. It is quite another to style just unkempt hair. When it's a character that you know to be pretty put together and whoever was on the scene for this episode did a great job. I think I think hair and makeup all around deserve some credit for this one because I think a lot of the time when characters are supposed to look like fatigued or run ragged, they really overdo it. And they slow-bub a couple of times.

But for the most part, the transition is pretty subtle and pretty well executed. And it's not like at the end when Picard needs to go back and freshen up to become Malibu Picard anew, he doesn't look like a guy who's just super tired, you know? Yeah, man. I thought they did a good job. Part of what's happening is that there's a power drain on the ship and like the lights have been turned down to compensate for this and I think that helps save what could be not a great makeup situation if you're putting bags under people's eyes and whatnot.

Like it helps sell it a little bit when you're in the dark. Yeah, another super expositiony scene is when the doctor comes and has a pre-packaged explanation for what's going on, which is that for whatever reason, this tycon's rift is causing them to not be able to get REM sleep, which is like it's a necessary part of your sleep cycle, a real thing, and because they're not getting it, they're starting to lose it, and unless you can figure out a way for them to get some sleep.

We will all go insane. You know, eventually brutally murder each other like the people on the pretendin'. There's a fun brand of conflict between Beverly and Troy over this whole REM sleep thing. Because every time Beverly brings it up around Troy, Troy is like, oh, I know, and my problem is exactly the opposite. I'm having super intense REM dreams and their nightmares.

And Beverly is like, great. Like good for you. Like she's sort of trying to cozy up and be someone who also has a problem, but it's not linearly the problem that everyone else is having. Yeah, it's like that friend who kind of doesn't realize how narcissistic they are and always kind of turns your problem into a story about themself. Right.

It's like, oh yeah, you're breaking up with your girlfriend. You know, I dated a girl once and a beautiful girl, but we had problems with our own, and let me tell you, it was sad times for me when we broke up. Anyways, good seeing you, buddy. There are a few great scenes of non-gribal acting with Gates McVadden, where she'll throw Troy a look like in one of these moments where it looks like she's gonna kill her.

Troy might be the first casualty here. Yeah, nice through the chest. Polar down by her hair. Yeah, she's like, I dropped my iPad about two days ago and I'm really pissed about that. And now this, uh-uh. So they've got a plan, which is they need to make a big explosion. They rigged up the ship to put out a ridiculous amount of energy when they fought the Boergs. And so they're going to try and set up the same thing with deflector control where they shoot a beam of energy into the tykins rift and see if that does something. And so they get it all set up and they pull the trigger and much like

the Borg's episode, it doesn't do anything. It's wildly unsatisfying. And... Right, Rikers, can I say fire this time? Because it's like no. No, that's not happening. I want to say it this time. Can you imagine being Riker and this failing for the second time in like less than a year? He's got to be so crushed.

Yeah, it's like maybe this isn't actually a good weapon after all. Why do we keep doing this? The camera pans up after this fails and Warf is standing at the horseshoe and he just looks so fucking so fucking crestfallen and wordlessly he just heads to the elevator and heads to his room where there is a table set out just out in the middle of his quarters where there is a box with a knife in it, a dish and a couple of beakers full of poison, I guess. He just has this shit out, like ready to go at any time. And he puts the knife in the bowl

and starts like treating the blade with some of the standing by poison. He's in. He's in. You can really understand why he sent Alexander to go live with his parents. Like his quarters is not child safe. Not child safe in the least.

You go after Frisbee and get a little bit of that in your mouth. You're done. You don't want to spill all that on your GIGOs. Yeah. It's also right at the base of his wall-o-weapons, which I thought was fun. I don't know if we've seen that before. I know we've seen a weapon or two here and there in worst quarters, but this was an angle that shows that he has a wall that's just like a collection

of different bladed weapons. Morph basically lives in a shop class. Yeah. You're going to hang bladed weapons on your wall. We recommend wearing eye protection at all times. We recommend using a pegboard with metal hooks so that you securely affix your sublates to the wall. I'll look a hardwesterous, carry a nice pegboard selection and there's really no wrong way

to do it, just as long as when you tug on them. They stay firmly affixed to the wall. Now your trash collector will come and pick up your old poison. If you set it in a jug right next to your garbage can. Check with your local has to decide and pick up policy. In some municipalities who may have to take these items to the dump. Yeah, so like Wurf has got the knife. Like at chin level, ready to drop it in and

Was he about to put it in his mouth? It almost looked like he was gonna open his mouth and push the knife like in to the like brainstem Through the back of his throat. I have so many questions about how he was going to do this But he stopped in the nick of time by Troy who does not observe a door policy. If he walks right in. Yeah. Well, I don't think that the doors to worst quarters could be any easier to get through because that dude has problems. But she manages to talk him out of stabilizing himself to death. And she like escorts him to 6-bay. And then she is back to telepathically communicating with the Betasoid.

And she comes up with this idea that he and she have actually been communicating with aliens that are also stuck in the rift. And the dream she's having is in fact the telepathic communication that she's receiving. So she in data meet with a super sleepy and distracted captain Picard and come up with the idea that the best way to get out of this is see if the enterprise has something, some chemical that can be combined with what the aliens have to form a big enough explosion to blow the rift apart. Hey, do you want to make a creepy explosion with me? It puts the explosion in the basket. It does this whenever it is chilled or else it gets the house again.

So they get to work on this and they are looking through the different elements they have on board and tries like, wait, stop, go back. And they've scrolled past the element hydrogen. They most abundant element in the universe. And she's like, that's the thing I keep seeing in my dreams. It's not the binary stars. It's a hydrogen atom with an electron circling around a proton.

So maybe the aliens are just asking us to give them hydrogen. Because everybody needs hydrogen, right? And they come up with the plan, like super last minute, Troy's gonna go to sleep. She's going to tell the aliens, we're about to shoot some hydrogen at you, get ready. And they put the plan in motion, they shoot out the hydrogen. And they're just thinking it's not gonna work when... Voila! It works! Huge explosion in space! The Enterprise zips off in a unknown other alien ship zips off in the other direction.

That we never see again! Curious about this ship! Because it's like, it's so unlike any ship we ever see. It's like a ball of crystals or something. And I would have liked to get to know those aliens. That seems like an interesting alien. There was much who's not where they? No Kevin, you got all of them, I promise. They're free, everybody's safe, and data,

and his last act is acting Captain, tells Picard to go get a nap. The end. Space madness really seems like a, you get a space madness episode every season, don't you? Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah. My love is a piece of long and chill for that

which long and thus have a busy. Tell me more, you're number four, yeah. Did you like this episode, Ben? Yeah, I kind of like this episode. Kind of do too, because it's such a departure. It's so weird. Like, it's not a surprise that you get this episode in the same season as you get day to day.

Like, this is a fucking weird season. Yeah. The structure of the episode is basically like, there's like four scenes where it's just densely packed exposition and then a bunch of spooky vignettes, like separating them. And the spooky vignettes are all pretty good, I thought. Like, aside from the Kiko and O'Brien one, like they're all pretty good. The show does spooky pretty well, but it's disappointing that they can't do scary at all. Like, the ingredients are there to make something scary. Space is scary.

An empty derelict ship full of dead bodies is scary. And it's weird that it just never quite feels that way. I think the, I think as close as the episode gets is the scene in the morgue where the dead bodies sit up because that's, you're actually seeing something at that point. The rest of it is just sort of head cannon all the way through. I think that scene really scared me when I was a kid. It's a terrifying image, you know. When they cut to the wide shot and she's just surrounded by kind of shrouded bodies.

Yeah, I think it really shows how fucking boring Miles and Kiko's relationship is because like, they're cutting around the ship from scary thing to scary thing and their moment to shine is a fight. A fight where O'Brien believes Kiko is cheating on him. A fight that they could have had in any other episode when they weren't under some alien influence. I think they filmed it for another episode and it hit the floor and then they just forked it into this one. Yeah.

Well, this isn't quite spooky, but it is upsetting. BELL RINGS God, you could call this episode that. That's a great review. Ding. Adam, I have something on my instrument panel. Wanna make sure it's not a false reading? Should we check for some priority one messages?

Boy, that was just in the nick of time. Ben, I was holding a knife up to my own throat. Wondering if we'd have one of these. I already won message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. I need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. Yeah, it's extra.

How do you trust alone? Could be enough to buy this ship! Our first and only priority one message for this episode is of a personal nature, a personal pan priority one message. It is from Marie and it is for Nilos. Ben, I feel like every P1 message is another hurdle of pronunciation to somehow jump across. I hope we got this one right. Message goes like this. Hey Nilos, hope you enjoyed listening to this app by two guys who give great pod.

It's very non-ladish, Rudy. Oh man, I see that deserves, that deserves some of your stink bed. Can you do that one? It's very non-ladish, Rudy! Bet you're doing the gumbo dance right now. Thanks for never being a sput-nick while you work on your hobby. You're my favorite, coolly-by-ever. With you, life is never middle finger. Lots of love for Marie, the Gigi, the Taz, and the Teeter. Hey, that was fun. I love these people that have as many esoteric jokes

built on jokes in their own relationships as we have in our podcast. Yeah, yeah, feels good. These are our people. They're just like us. This a birthday message, did you think maybe or just a, just a hey, what's up? Maybe, maybe it's just about gumbo. Like maybe, maybe Nilo is just making gumbo and this is on the occasion of a nice dinner. Hey, I think that any gumbo is worth celebrating with a P1.

Absolutely. Gumbo is delicious. Well, if you have a special meal coming up or a holiday or an occasion you'd like to celebrate by having us read a message You can go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo tron to sign up for a personal message which costs $100 and a business or corporate message for 200 it really helps us produce our show It really helps us produce our show. It really does. Yeah. Hey, Bann.

What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a haunted drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda! Yeah, my drunk Shimoda in this episode is data. And it's from this scene where I think it's the scene where crusher is explaining to Picard that they're not getting REM sleep.

And there's just this funny moment where she's kind of, they're all pretty fucked up at this point. And she's kind of like forgetting words and stammering through this exposition. And it's just like boarding exposition. And there's just this moment where data is like, what the doctor is trying to say is, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, it's like, let me just get the rest of this exposition out of the way. And then we can

get back to the episode where spooky things are happening. I wish he did that more often. I know. It just cracked me up when it happened and I enjoyed it. How about yourself? You have a Shimoda? I do and it's sort of a moment, a Shimoda moment. The bar room brawl breaks out and tend forward and you can just sense that glass tables are in trouble.

And like any good bartender would, it turns out Gainin keeps a shotgun under the bar. And she whips out this brown gun, dials it up and shoots it at the ceiling. And what happens is one of the worst effect comps, I think we get on the show. There's like this weird glitter and smoke that comes off of the ceiling.

And it goes in front of and behind the wrong people when it cuts to the reverse shot of the group. It looks sort of like one of the default particle effects settings in like an after effect. Like a particle system generator that comes out of the box and after effects, not an aftermarket plug-in. And this is one of the default settings is kind of useful at the ceiling.

I have so many questions about this scene. Like, does anyone else know that she has this? Has Picard sanctioned this? Is this one of those Steven Segal under siege weaponized bartender on the crew situations? Like, I love that she has an alien shotgun back there. I love that she will brandish it. But there have been other fights and tend forward before.

Where was she for those? I know. Why didn't she make an example of someone by shooting them with it? That would have been fun. I also would have loved to get the shot of the guy reading a newspaper on the toilet in the on the deck right above just like having a beam of light shoot up through the floor right between his legs. Tear the newspaper apart and have his face revealed. That would have been a nice little comedic moment.

It also breaks can and two because you remember in Star Trek 6 when, uh, when they shoot a phaser in the kitchen and they destroy that pot of mashed potatoes and the alarm goes off. Yeah. You aren't supposed to be able to discharge a weapon on a starship without all sorts of alarms going off. Evidently, guidance weapon is made out of plastic or something, and it shoots something that isn't detected by the computer.

Oh, yeah, it's like that Clint Eastwood movie where he plays the Secret Service agent. Yeah, yeah, the gun is made out of, it's like 3D printed. Yeah. Anyway, that scene was amazing to me, and it was sort of a throw away, but I loved it. There's a lot that's amazing about that. Good call, Adam.

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This crisis will affect your identity. Walkins here. You really walk in depth that title of episode. Walkin has entered the building. We should do walkin title of episode every time now. Okay. This is the Jordy bodysuit episode, isn't it? Yeah, it is.

I think it gets full lobster claw in this one. God. It's like all they know how to do. Okay. I guess we have to see it. I like this one. I like a Star Trek who done it. You know? I confuse this episode with the one where everyone D evolves into like spiders and monsters and like the whole ship does it.

Yeah. I confuse that with this episode which is not that. This just affects Jordy, right? Yeah, yeah, it's like something that happened to him on a mission, on a previous ship, and the biological forces at work are so strong that nothing can stop him from developing lobster claws. are so strong that nothing can stop him from developing lobster claws. Great. Well, I am super pumped to see that. I mean, it's the lobster claw trilogy episode three. Can't wait to see that criterion collection box cover.

Yeah, we're gonna have to... What's great about the lobster claw trilogy is that the claw has three fingers. A trilogy has three episodes. Yeah. Put it together. That's great marketing. So in that, are the two episodes with the traveler

mushed into one? Yeah, I guess we're really talking about four episodes if we're talking about. I think the Traveler right come back another time too. They just can't quit the Traveler. It's like, hey, this was like a B-Mineus idea. Let's make it a late motif across the entire series. I feel like we have sold five or six B plus ideas that never come back and they keep hitting this fucking lobster hand thing over and over again.

Well, it's a box set one way or another. We don't know how many entries there are in it. It's true. It's one of those DVD cases with like a file oflofax and the middle of it, just full of discs. Just add more discs to it as many as you want. Yeah. Good times. Well, we don't have any vetoes available at them, so that is what we will watch next. All right, I guess. I promise I will. next. Alright, I guess. I promise I will. And I promise that we will keep making episodes as long as everybody listening goes to MaximumFun.org slash Donate. It's the way that you can contribute to this show on a monthly basis and it keeps

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So, on that upsetting note, we will be back at you next week. Upsetting note for an upsetting episode. We'll be back at you next week with a great episode of Star Trek the Next Generation and a little, little, 3 episode of the greatest generation. I like your lobster voice. Boy, we really tried it out all the impressions this time, didn't we? Well, some of them. Notice I didn't describe those impressions. Maximumfund.org Comedy and Culture, Artistone,

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