The Greatest Generation - It’s a Neutral Sausage (DS9 S4E8)

Episode Date: April 15, 2019

When Worf teams up with Dax and Kor to liberate a Klingon relic from the GQuad, his life suddenly feels like it has a purpose. But when that selfsame relic starts to exhibit One Ring-like properties, ...it’s anyone’s guess who will survive their long trip in the Star Trek Caves. How are we supposed to keep track of Worf’s pariah status? What’s the best way to have a moderate amount of fun in Vegas? Is Dax more racist against Vulcans than Ben is against Lethians? It’s the episode where we go where no targ has gone before! Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:02:56 That is a salt bomb. Yeah, that's how I'm doing. That's a salt bomb. Right. I had some risotto in the freezer that I took out and heated it up for a lunch today. And then I was just like, k out after it. Like we were, I sat down at noon to watch my star track in preparation for recording today with my bowl of risotto. And after I finished eating it, I was like, I was like, unbelievably tired. Is that something that carbs do?
Starting point is 00:03:26 They like fatigue you? I, yeah, they sure do. I'm shocked that you froze risotto. I just made like way too much of it one time. You get an Erin senior, that shit man. I do that sometimes, and then I'll like put them on a salad for lunch, which I'm a fan of, but this was a volume of
Starting point is 00:03:46 risotto that I was just, I did not believe in myself to get through it in time before it went bad. It is, God, risotto can really be a brick. And so yeah, I think I think the outcome was pre-ordained for you, Ben. I was looking at like a week of eating risotto for like two meals most days for an entire Ben. I was looking at like a week of eating risotto for like two meals most days for an entire week, and I just, I couldn't. I just know, good. I had to freeze.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I had to freeze. That's a death sentence, Ben. My God, what happened to this man? Yeah. It was good though. It had a sweet Italian sausage, pumpkin, and asparagus in it. I am not a sweet person when it comes to sausage or pickles. They're not actually sweet, they're just not spicy, Adam.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Sweet Italian sausage. It's just not the calibrasy. All right, all right. It's just a sausage,ibrasy. All right, all right. It's just a sausage. It's a neutral sausage. I'm just stating a preference and you're just fucking piling on me, man. Yeah, and I'm saying you need to broaden your horizons and go by yourself a chub pack of sweet Italian sausage and get with the program because they're perfectly good.
Starting point is 00:04:59 What? Spicy ones are also really good. I just sometimes don't get the spicy kind. Hey, I'm Benjamin R. Harrison. I'm gonna buy an entire chub package of sweet sausage and eat it twice a day for an entire week until I die. Yeah, yeah. That's not the way to enjoy anything, Ben.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Ha ha ha. I have a freezer full of delights, and I can make all kinds of great lunches for myself with a drop of a hat. I keep my delights in my nightstand where they belong. I fucking hope you don't have spicy Italian sausages in your nightstand. Ben, I've got a proposition for you. A new segment is what I'm proposing.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah, I loved your character on the wire, Proposition Adam. You made it look like you were running an electronics repair shop, but really you were running the whole west side of Baltimore. They cut my character out of the show. Deep, they did not test well at all. More confusing than anything. Ben, I'm holding in my hand a pad of Star Trek Madlibs known to you, me, and everyone else as the world's greatest word game.
Starting point is 00:06:08 This was a mail call, and I guess it was the last episode. Friend of the Soda Synthesian. So I propose as I lick the tip of my pencil that we play a little game. Yeah, let's do a madlib. One, two, and you people, you're all, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of Star Trek. Madlib, madlib.
Starting point is 00:06:31 There's no sex in here, stop. So I'm kind of Star Trek. Madlib. Are they TOS or they like a particular era or do they span all areas? Oh, it looks like, it looks like it's TOS. I would say that a dis-comforting amount of Star Trek merchandise is TOS.
Starting point is 00:06:53 You know? Yeah. Give me that TNG merch. That's not my Star Trek, Ben. Yeah. It's just not. But we'll mad-live it. Ben, first question. First thing I need is a place. Give me a place.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Rysa. Now give me a noun. EPS conduit. And now a silly word. Loaf. Does it? It doesn't tell you what part of speech it just wants something silly. It just wants a silly word. Yeah. I hope that love is silly enough. Now just wants something silly. It just wants a silly word. Yeah. I hope it's low-facil enough. Now I need a number. 47. And now a verb. What tense? Present. I guess
Starting point is 00:07:33 to phaser. Yeah. Yeah. Put it in whatever. Plural noun. Dobbo girls. Noun. Glass table. Plural noun. Holodex. Animal. Targ. Adjective. Last one. Cybernetic. See, I'm giving that there could be great folly in that. You're trying to own the lips, Ben. Let's see how it works out as I read to you the most famous intro ever and I'm gonna need some musical accompaniment. Ryza, the final EPS conduit. These are the voyages of the Starship Loaf. It's 47-year mission to phaser strange new davo girls to seek out new glass tables and new holodics to boldly go where no targ has gone before. Pretty fun. And then
Starting point is 00:08:41 Q Cybernetic Music is the parenthetical at the end of the video. Wow. You did it, Ben! Hey, I think that's a lot of fun. But that felt very on-brand for our show. Yeah, yeah, that works for me. Very fun. Well, do you want to get into the episode now that we've had some fun?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, let's fill in the blanks on Season 4 episode 8 of Deep Space 9, the Sward of KEE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE-REE Do you realize how incredible this is? Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! No, of course you don't. A Lavar Burton directed episode, Ben. A Lavar Burton directed episode in some familiar Star Trek settings. Yeah. So we start with our buddy, Kor, the Dahar Master, relating a battle story at Quirksbar talking about some some excitement that took place on maybe like Mustafa
Starting point is 00:09:54 Warrif is dropping some eaves on this guy and And he and Quirk kind of connect over feeling weird about this, right? Yeah, because Quirks problem is that all of the stories are sad or blood-filled. In a way, he doesn't like. Nobody is earning a margin on anything in this story. And Warf sort of sees these as the fish tails that they are. Right. Dax comes over to Warf and she's like, oh, let me introduce you to my good time buddy, Core.
Starting point is 00:10:25 We've gone on adventures together in the past. And Wharf doesn't want to because Pariah status seems to be back in effect. I can never keep track of when Wharf isn't a pariah. You mean both. It really, I think, mostly has to do with how he's carrying himself, which I think is something that you
Starting point is 00:10:45 and I can learn from. Periah status comes from within. Clearly. I mean, I just thought it was funny because like, I don't, like, I guess this became an issue when he came on the show and like helped the federation kind of one up the Klingons, but I kind of missed it, I suppose. Anyways. Dex does Warf a salad, though, right?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Dex sees that Warf is off on his own, like sitting in a puddle of his own shame and makes the introduction. She's a good wingman. Prune Juice and shame. Salmon combination. And Core and Warf hit it off because they both dislike galron so they're both anti-rons. Yeah, yeah. I've never seen a a Klingon safe pleasure to meet you. Right, that was so weird. Like nice sturdy handshake and a couple of pumps like where's core from?
Starting point is 00:11:42 You're like how to make friends and influence people since we last met him. Yeah. Yeah. One thing I noticed in this scene having to do with this handshake is that, uh, course hands are smooth. And I think if you know you're going to be shooting hands close up, you got to make course hands a little coarser than a man who has been washing dishes his entire career. You know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 He looks like he never did work. Yeah. And that's not, you know, what we know about Corsh that he swings his own bat lift. What we come to know about Corsh is that he's looking for the sword of K-Lis. Yeah. As he unfolds this, you know, like, and Worf has heard, of course, legend. He's got, he's pretty famous as a Dahar master. Worf is like, can't we just reproduce the sword the way we reproduce Calus?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Like we can, we can make that in a lab. It's probably a lot easier. Replicated sword? Yeah. As Gore talks about the quest that he's on to recover the sword, we get some real great vintage war fives. Yeah, Dustin him off. Yeah, it's really it's fun to have them back on the show as another main cast character. He kind of keen and reacts. They're very, cast character. He kind of keen and reacts. They're very, they're very related to what Keenan Thompson does on SNL, I think. Yeah, or do you think Keenan got it? Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:13:14 fair. It should be Warf reacts. The pitch here is that while clone Kales is technically the emperor, all of the power lies in Gauron's hand, and neither of these guys is super hot for what Gauron is up to these days. So if they got the sword of Kales, they could get it back and give it to the emperor. They would be hailed as heroes of the realm and the emperor could kind of like summon political power to himself
Starting point is 00:13:50 and rebuke the bad leadership that is Gauron. Cause apparently the emperor was not for the whole invade Kardashian thing that the Klingons attempted. The debacle. Yeah, it kind of got publicly defied, which, you know, not a great look to have the Emperor make his wishes clear
Starting point is 00:14:14 and then get ignored. Right. Yeah, it appears as though there's kind of a sword in the stone story being told here. Like whoever possesses the sort of Calis is going to either be imbued with a great amount of power or have the ability to give that power to someone else. Right. So, so Warf is like, yeah, like this could be like this is worth this is worth fighting and dying for it. Like
Starting point is 00:14:41 this is a great quest to go on and And I will gladly join up with you guys. If you'll have me, like he's still very deferential to CORE here. Yeah. But CORE is a fucking drunk and he needs Dax and Wurf just to keep him upright. Right. Yeah, Dax does the grown up thing of like I've had enough fun for the evening.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So I'm going to call it. I'm not going to have that last drink that everybody always regrets having ordered. I have become the master of this. I've become so much the master of this that you've made fun of me for example, not drinking the hoof. Yeah, you're the master of going to Vegas and having a medium amount of fun. Really cool Adam. That is God that's cold but true. That's why it hurts so much. So, so, DAX splits. Core dumps the remainder of her blue drink into his blood wine. You do not want to be graveyarding drinks in that fashion, right? No, because that's probably like a Romulan spritz or something like that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And you add that to blood wine, which we know to be like extremely potent. Of course, this tastes exactly like a long Island ice tea. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, and I guess Warf is just drinking prune juice. Unclear. He does not seem like he's been partying. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:33 No, but Warf never parties. He's not a, he's not into having fun in that way. He's like Vegas, Adam, according to you. Yeah, pretty much. He's like, uh, you Vegas, Adam Adams a ton of fun, you don't know. You could get him a hoof full of frozen margarita. You give it to him. Instead of going like, hell yeah, hoof arena.
Starting point is 00:16:53 He goes, fuck you man, I've been trying to maintain. Let's be clear. I, we keep litigating this over and over again. My problem was not the hoof. My problem was not the idea of the beverage. My problem was specifically margarita. Like that was a leader of margarita you were giving me. You were giving me diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And that's what I couldn't abide, man. Like I always assume you already have diarrhea. So how could I give you something that you already have? That's fair. You know me very well, but But I think in that circumstance were it to be Were it to be repeated a a simple two ingredient cocktail would would be preferred? Sure, I doubt you're ever gonna get me another drink again Like I think I think I really turned you off to the idea in a way that's unfortunate. I regret it. I'm sorry. I go through life just whistling somebody would give me a
Starting point is 00:17:49 frozen margarita that I didn't even have to go go to the trouble of ordering and paying for. That's all I want. I was loving my podcast partner the way I would like to be loved. You think Bri and Bill aren't going to be like hammering you with hoofs the entire time where it starts like Las Vegas together, it's going to happen. This is going to be great. It's going to be nothing but smash burgers and hoofs all the way down. Hill, yeah. And roll and crap spin. Better believe you're going to roll some crap with me.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Never going to get that drunk at him. How dare you. You roll crap at the end of every show. It's the same thing. So stumbling back to his hotel room late at night after presumably quite a bit of crabs and hoofs or opens the door and is greeted by our buddy, the Lethian, the guy that made Julian Bashir a prisoner of
Starting point is 00:18:47 his own mind. I think this is a different Lethian though, because that Lethian was exploded, right? Oh, yeah, I guess. Yeah, but, you know, and I'm not proud of this, but I have a really hard time telling Lethian's apart. Oh, shit. Yeah. Really? Do you want me to cut that out?
Starting point is 00:19:05 I didn't, I had no idea you were a Lethian racist. Yeah. I mean, now I have like the lightning always looks the same to me. I don't know. They always want to grab you by both sides of your head. Like classic Lethian, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a stereotype for a reason, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:27 How about this show calling back what we thought at the time was gonna be a one trick alien? Right, it's still a one trick alien, but doing the same trick. This, let the in's name is Soto, Ben, who is not a chill boss whatsoever. Not the best boss I've ever had. No.
Starting point is 00:19:47 A soda, perfectly chill. Yeah. Regular old soda, not cool. Soto is played by a guy named Tom Morga, and Ben, have you looked up this guy? Tom Morga was in the last episode also. Tom Morga is in a quote unquote, too many credits to list capacity for
Starting point is 00:20:06 Star Trek. His resume goes back to the motion picture. He has been in everything. Do you know what he's the most notable for to me and you? He was the stunt double for Freaks when Admiral Roundhouse Quinn took him over the glass table. Wow. He went through the glass table. Wow. Yeah, Tom Morga is someone that I wanted me at Star Trek Glass Vegas. I think we've talked about him before.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He's kind of like a Lieutenant J that you don't see us face that much. Like I feel like he's often put in love. He's free-streamed Lieutenant J. Like he's a real blink if you miss him, sort of guy. If you click on the cast on the X-ray feature on Amazon, he's a... It crashes the app as soon as you do. No, he's in like a hockey mask, because I think he played Jason in some...
Starting point is 00:21:00 Wow. Yeah. Good credit. Yeah, but also funny, amusingly illustrative of how anonymous his face is, you know. So something that happened back in the bar was that Core produced a rag and this rag is something that he believes belonged to K-List. It's an artifact. Yeah, it's a shroud of Turin situation where like they look at it and they're like, oh yeah, the imprint of the sword is right on it.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So like, apparently every Klingon intimately knows what the sort of Kale, like the kind of imprint the sort of Kaleus would leave on. Right. Yes. Yes. This held a sort of Kaleus. Yeah. And so before they go on this mission with Kaur, they need to confirm its authenticity.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And this is something that DAX is able to do. Yeah, she takes it into her lab, she pulls the plastic card out of the case and breaks the outer case and reads off the sequence of letters and numbers and can confirm Shroud is authentic. I concur, sir. To be quite honest about it, that is an apparel. I'm fucking an apparel. Mr. Bucket, I have to revert back to my state. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore. They can't go on this field trip before asking dad for the car.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And so they visit Ben Sisko, who is shaving with the same razor as Jordy does in Codavonor. Yeah, that was really fun to see that again. If you even begin a sentence with, I'm thinking of using a Cody vonner prop in this episode. I think that's a conversation, enter in a lot of circles around. I think if, especially if you're not a black director asking for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Right? Like, everybody would be like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't want to be the one that says yes, you know. He was weird later when Wurf, instead of producing a mechleth, took out a spiky bird to use for fighting. You don't want a lot of coat of honor references
Starting point is 00:23:04 in your sci-fi show, I don't think. No, they do a lot to minimize the memory of that episode. Yeah. For the reason. Yep. Got, have you gone back and looked at the reviews of that episode from from Star Trek Legends? Yeah. I feel like Jonathan Freaks called it a great big pile of shit or something like they do not pull any punches when they talk about that
Starting point is 00:23:29 Up. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I'm surprised that they even released it to the streaming services to be Among the ones that get streamed. It's it's really bad. You can't just Delete embarrassing history, you know? Like I, I know like politicians delete their tweets all the time. But this isn't that. Like I think I don't think that they embrace the embarrassment that is that episode,
Starting point is 00:23:58 but I think it's good that it exists as an example of how far the show has come. Like it's like a warning. Really? Right, yeah. Yeah, the parents of young children that are being groomed to direct episodes of Star Trek tell them about that story at night.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Mind your peas and queues or y'all direct something like that. So the story, such as it is is that the Herc, I'm part right there with break boom. I had to come up with Bongo Rock. Stole the sword in a bunch of other artifacts from Kronos, which is the new Kronos pronunciation that we're getting from discovery. And they've put it in a museum inside the G-Quad.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And this museum was discovered by a Vulcan survey team there, and so that's where they're headed. The Hurt attacked Kronos a thousand years ago and stole a bunch of relics of this kind. The Hurt must be pretty badass, right? I know. And I wondered like where the Klingons, like Kaleus had lived and died at that point in the history.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So presumably they had a fairly militaristic culture previous to being torn to shreds by the Herk, but that's something that we've heard them talk about that often, and I can see why. You know, if I think the moment... That's proud of what they did when the Herk showed up. The moment the Kalish emerges from the Matrix goo as the test tube cling on that he is, I drive him on over to the Herk.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I think they'd find that very surprising. Hey. You again. One thing I found, one detail I found funny in this episode was that Kor has been serving as the ambassador, the Klingon ambassador to Vulcan. Yeah. That has got to be the worst job, right? Like that's something that you get when you're trying to be,
Starting point is 00:26:04 like they're trying to get rid of you. It's like being sent to Siberia in the Russian military or whatever. Of course not anyone's first pick, right? I think we can agree on that. Like what a fucking mess it must be for him to live on Vulcan. Like attempting to behave himself around those guys. Yeah, what a nightmare. Just drunk all the time and I like oh god this dude. Jesus. Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:29 he's He's you know like we were given throughout all of Star Trek like this picture of the jovial Fun warrior race of Klingons, but core fucking sucks But core fucking sucks. The argument for getting to go out on the runabout is that this could put the federation in the position of having provided critical material to the recovery of this sword and then when the emperor consolidates power around himself, he would, you know, owe them a favor, and maybe the thorn in their side that is Gauron's chancellorship would go away. So, so Cisco's pretty eager to give the green light to this project, and the three of them, DAX, Core, and Worf head out to the G Quad. Out in front of the wormhole core attempts to,
Starting point is 00:27:27 we are the Rio Grande, them, in a speech before going in. There's another thing that you won't know if you don't listen to the greatest discovery. DAX and Worf were like, oh god, like pinching the bridge of their noses, like can we just get on with it, please? Yeah. Cora is, you know, like the self-mythologizing impulse
Starting point is 00:27:54 that he has is something that I think is really fun in this episode. And like at one point he like comes, he was like clearly sleeping one off in the back of the runabout and he comes down. He's like, I just had a fucking great dream. And you were there and you were there. And then there's a great conversation starter
Starting point is 00:28:12 that you never want to hear. Yeah, but Core loves his dead bros. He really misses King and Kohloth. He wants their statues to come alive and for them to ride with him again. Is that a thing that happens? No. The statues coming alive thing?
Starting point is 00:28:27 You just had a dream. Yeah. And then he had to change his pants and underwear. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. So that's to me like core out a little bit of a wet dream. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm going to have to go back in the back there and clean up the the bunk that he was using. You think they're hot bunking in the Rio Grande?
Starting point is 00:28:53 That sounds like a this DS9 title of show, right? Yeah. Do you think a chorus playing hide the turd? Gross. That's grosser than my comment. They're both the same. They're both references to the same email that we got that one time. Yeah. Come to a foreign.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a foreign. Come to a planet and it is a very familiar environment. It's the Star Trek caves. It's right. The Earth. Our burden knows how to direct an episode that takes place in Star Trek caves.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Outside of stage 17 on the lot, there's that plaque of all the things that have been shot there. And it's just 40 plaques of Star Trek, Star Trek, you're stage nine, Star Trek, the next generation. Like, it's like a wallet full of children's pictures that just like expands and like, it's the floor. Yeah, the accordion style credits. I feel like that cliff is definitely, was definitely in the chain of command episode.
Starting point is 00:30:09 This all looks very familiar. It's lit a little differently. It's kind of more... Warf was in that episode. He doesn't remember this though. I know. Yeah, he should know these caves like the back of his hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 You get a real sense of like Temple of Doom vibes here, I thought. Like with the idea of recovering something of great like religious or cultural value, but what they don't lean into at all is the booby-trapification of where they might be. I thought that was that would have been an interesting place to take the story, but they don't. Which is definitely on your mind because that's a big issue in Chain of command. Yeah, yeah. And like there's so many similar ideas here where there's like, oh, there's like a force field here or there's a thing that looks like a wall, but it's actually a hologram and a force field.
Starting point is 00:30:55 But they, you know, they're pretty quick to get through the first force field, which the Vulcans did not succeed in getting through. It's like, DAX is 10 times smarter than the Vulcans did not succeed in getting through. It's like, Dax is 10 times smarter than the Vulcans. She's just like, does a little tricording and they setting up, they set up a couple of little devices at the foot of it and they're through. She's really kind of mean too. She's like, fucking dumb ass of vulks.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Good evening. I've never heard that particular slur, but, she never stops using it in this episode. It's like, it actually kind of starts to trouble core. Yeah, he's like, I lived on Vulcan for five years, and she's like, God, the smell of those vulks must have just repulsed you the entire time. Speaking of smells, the show finally describes a smell of a bad place, and I love that. I think you're, how is it?
Starting point is 00:31:49 They get the force field down, and they're like, oh, gross. Yeah. If you were to open up a Herc museum of your own, I bet it would smell pretty bad in their hubbend. Smell like you're Herc in it. What is Herc in it in your mind? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Like, like, spin-in records, like cool DJ herk? Kinda sounds like herking it could be, uh, could be like Jack in it. I don't think I would call my Jack in it museum herking it, you know? Okay. That's just not to say I'm not opening a museum about me Jack in it. I am. I don't want you to get it twisted. I'm definitely, I'm definitely opening a museum about me jacketing. I am. I don't want you to get it twisted.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'm definitely doing that. There's no building that's ever been constructed that would be big enough to house all the exhibits in your Herkennet museum. The myriad ways. Yeah. Oh, here's the ruler that shows the furthest he's ever shot.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Here's the hamper full of socks. Here's the nested folder system used to hide all the smut on his computer. Gross. Yeah, so this place stinks and it's full of broken artifacts too. It's the new joke that I jack off a ton. Is that what you're trying to establish? It's just this episode. We're never gonna call this back.
Starting point is 00:33:17 That's really the case. I think I jack off a fairly normal amount. I'm positive that everything about your sexuality is normal. Quote, I quote, normal. Well, it's in normal parameters. Right. Anyhow, the museum, it's like a ruin of a museum. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And the sword is in there. They initially find a room that seems like it's been tossed by looters. And they're pretty sure it's not the vulks that that that that looted this room. Dax is like, I mean, those guys are low lives, but even even a vulk wouldn't do this. Leave it to the vulks to give this place a good tossing and leave it, leave it as stinky as it is. Yeah. and leave it as stinky as it is. Yeah, but they work out that there's like a hologram that looks like a wall, and they walk through it, and there is the batlet, and this is a pretty cool prop.
Starting point is 00:34:15 It looks great. It looks like one of those chef's knives that aren't forged out of a single piece of steel, but are instead folded like a jack in these knife would be. It's like watered steel. Yeah, it looks amazing. It's a great prop. It's a very murdered out watered steel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah, I mean, like most betless we see are very obviously just like a cut out of some plywood that's been spray painted silver. Yeah. And this looks way better, you know? It looks like it's got a full tang. Yeah, it's not going to break when you're chopping a particularly tough onion. This is a moment in the episode that maybe a Vokes temple of Doom the strongest because
Starting point is 00:34:59 they've shot head-on at core and wharf with this sword and the foreground. And it looks like the situation where they're going to have to measure out a volume of sand. Yeah. And then this old knight comes in and he's like, pick up the batlet that you think would belong to Kayla. And it's not the jeweled one. It's actually the wood one off in the corner that, you know, because he was, he was a carpenter. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Kayla's is a great carpenter. Yeah. yeah a modest carpenter just a modest man. Yeah, yeah defied an entire empire You remember when Kaelis went crazy and flipped over the table at the money changers Kicked all of the kicked all the money changers out of the domes on Kronos. Yeah, and then he decapitated them with his... his back leg. The honor of picking this thing up for the first time goes to Khor. And it's a pretty cool moment, I think. What does it feel? Good.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Very, very good. They don't get to marinate in this good feeling for long because as soon as they enter the VAM for the museum, they are confronted with an old friend. An old friend who doesn't look like anything like our old friend, it's Terral, son of Duras, and the nephew of the Duras sisters. He's all groans up at him. Yeah. Is the same actor or not? It is not. I wonder what that actor was doing where he wouldn't pick up the phone. I'm not not besmirching the actor that they got to
Starting point is 00:36:41 play Teral this time. Yeah, but just like why not have the continuity of it? Yeah, so before we had JD Calum, and then this time we have Rick Paschaloni. What you want is an Italian Klingon, Ben. Right. Hey, I'm trying to steal your batlet here. That's a sharp batlet. Yeah, his idea is that if the house of Duras.
Starting point is 00:37:08 This is terrible. It's a bad show. His idea, though, is that if the house of Duras are the ones that make the heroic return to Kronos with the sort of K-Lass, that all of the power consolidation advantages that this blade would have for the emperor might actually be conferred on him. Like initially they're like, oh, you're trying to get your seat back on the countless like now. Yeah, I want more than I want all the seats. How's that going for way more?
Starting point is 00:37:37 Kind of an embarrassing moment for Warf too because Warf could have killed him when he had the chance and chose not to. And it's a thing that Khor takes great umbridge with. Yeah, great umbridge. You don't just not kill someone when you have the chance. Yeah, that's not how Klingon's act. That's how a Valk would be. It's the right of vengeance.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It's one of the most joyful parts of being a Klingon. You love it. It sounds like some weak vulk shit. The Lethian is a part of Terral's gang. Yeah, the Lethian is is totally like in the fist fight with them. And like for some reason, the Lethian is primarily concerned with decks and keeps trying to grab the sides of her head, of her head like mid-fight, like before she has been knocked around enough to not be able to resist that particular attack.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's a weird form of fighting, because you're supposed to sing chops and ax handles, and mechless and stuff being brandish, but he's just staggering around like Frankensteining his hands in her. It's weird. It's very weird. They beat the pulp out of a bunch of Klingons.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They kill a couple. The, I mean, like the sort of K-Less is being sorted at people. Yeah. And, and Worf has a mechless and, you know, a lot of fun Star Trek fighting, and then like running down the tunnels in the Star Trek caves to get away from T'ral and his lethy and homie. It kind of turns into a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:39:15 road movie story from here. There's a lot of camping. There's some killing of animals and eating them. There's a lot of like campfire storytelling. Yeah, they can't beam up because they're getting jammed. So they've got to, they've got to just kind of like make moves. And one kind of inconsistent element in this is that Wharf takes a pretty bad stab wound in the first fight. And like, some of the time he's like bleeding badly and it's like a big issue and they need to like, they need to like, deal with the fact that he's bleeding and other times are like We'll just like hang out here for a couple hours and like cool our boots It's like well if he's bleeding. I don't think you have time to like take long breaks, right? How is it that Kira and DuKa new well enough to bring the whole closer with them on their away mission and Dax
Starting point is 00:40:04 Didn't bring one with them on their away mission and Dax didn't bring one with her on this one. Remember? Yeah. Like, they got to be closing these holes. Close my butt hole while you're at it. Why isn't that an every mission carry for these away teams? That should be a thing.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah. It comes out, you know, in the midst of all of these arguments that Kor actually kind of has similar scheme to T'Ral, as far as what to do with the sword once they're back. The sword must risk in the hands of someone who has been harned by battle, pure of hearts, who understands loyalty and honor, a warrior like Kang and Kola. Someone like you. I imagine that you hatch an evil plan like this when you're stuck on Vulcan.
Starting point is 00:40:54 First, as long as he probably was, just like bored to tears, surrounded by vulks. Yeah, vulks who avoid you at every turn. Do you think that Germans listening to this will get worried that we're saying something about the one we say Valks? I don't think so. Why would they?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Because they write around Valks wagons? I didn't make that connection. And if I didn't make the connection, I'm sure no one else would have. That's one thing I've learned over almost 200 episodes of this show. Is that when I miss something I never hear about it. The artist intentions are good enough for everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah. Core and Warf are really not getting along at all and it's less about Warf's not taking the right of vengeance and more about fighting over the sword. Yeah Because Kor is sort of betraying the idea of maybe not giving the sword to anyone else and maybe he should be the guy to run the Klingons. He's like that, that emperor is a clone and a puppet and probably not really like political leadership material. Well, we want is somebody who's like a master of a dahar type variety to be running the show. Who do we know who has that kind of dahar experience? Who do we know that is currently holding the sword that might fit that description roughly?
Starting point is 00:42:29 Which of the three of us is also drunk right now? Right now. So yeah, the idea that he might be the one to take power is introduced. And not long after that, like Worf confides in Dax that he has felt since this quest landed in his lap, like, maybe this is his destiny. Yeah. It's kind of the one ringing them, you know, I definitely got that vibe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Dax is Samwise. She's the only one that's like totally immune to it. It's not the only Indiana Jones film referenced. You were talking about last crusade. I was talking about a temple of doom, but this is now also lost Ark. Because this Ark may have a magical power, but this has just a power that corrupts through proximity. And there's nothing magical about the sword. It's just the potential of its power.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, Dex gets her hands on it at one point and then she gives it back and she goes, here you go, Mr. Frodo, only had it for safe keeping. That was a weird moment, right? Yeah, it was. Yeah, that was her Dex talk like that. Weird was. Yeah. That were her decks talk like that. Weird app. Yeah. But I really liked the little monologue Worf has about having felt like an outsider his entire life. Like never human enough to be human, never cling on enough to be a cling on like when he went back to when he went to
Starting point is 00:44:08 Kronos as like an adolescent and like visited his cousin's family, just like being totally isolated and ostracized there and feeling totally alienated from the culture into which he was born. And. I thought it was weird how he started telling the story and then he stopped himself and he's like, it's sort of like what Knog's going through right now. Hahaha.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You know, Knog from the bar. You know, the kid I made fun of in the last episode, real piece of shit. Yeah. You know, I've got his tooth sharpener Good tooth sharpener. I hate that kid. You know what I didn't bring on the OA team the whole closer You know what I did bring the tooth sharpener This story he was telling about him being a child and and Kaelis showing him this vision Sort of gives him the confidence of his conviction
Starting point is 00:45:06 about maybe thinking the swords for him. Yeah. And not for core. And this is a thought that's been eavesdropped on by core who has been around the corner taking a piss. Yeah, I mean, they see him over there and he says, I wouldn't drop a no e Yeah, I mean, they see him over there and he says, I wouldn't drop a no-eaves, Mr. Worf.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Core was just filing two streams of hot piss and did the side of the cave. I didn't hear anything, it was very loud. Ha, ha, ha. Oh man. Oh man. Oh man. Oh man. You really want to do this. So now that like nobody trusts anybody, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:45:56 Dax's allegiances are very split because she's blood brothers with Corb, but also in Starfleet with Worf. At one point they have what I will call a Mexican sleep-off, where Wharf offers to take the first watch and, and, of course, like, that'll be the day. Piece of shit. And, yeah, they just, like, they definitely don't want Tarell to get the sword, and he is still very much a factor, but they also really don't want either one of them to get the sword and he is still very much a factor, but they also really don't want either one of them to get the sword. So you know, like they get in a bunch more Star Trek fights along the way amidst also like
Starting point is 00:46:35 hunting and killing muppets that inhabit the caves. Maybe the scene that's going to stick with me forever after this ep is where the three are scaling a very thin rock out crop. They're like trying to get from one area of a cliff to another. And the same thing. Yeah, they're doing what Legend of Zelda, the Wind Waker, would refer to as sideling alongside of a cliff. And at this point, Kor goes over the side and he's holding the sort of
Starting point is 00:47:06 cailess and Worf catches it. He catches him by the sword. And he's like, Hey, there's a ledge down there, dude. If you just let go of the sword, you'll be fine. And core doesn't believe it. And dax can't see it. And so it's all, it's all on Wurf here. And so when Wurf finally pulls core up by the sword and they all see how little of a ledge there was to support him, it is a really bad look for Wurf. And Wurf achieves a kind of plausible deniability, dishonor in that moment that I don't think that you get to shake off of your hymn going forward. Like if the sword is not magically making people want it the way the one ring does. It's a terrible look for him I think. It is, but also Worf is established as a character that is willing to kill for a thing he needs, you know? Like we've seen him like beam over to a clang on ship and drop a batlet
Starting point is 00:48:09 into somebody's chest because they were a political problem for him. Yeah. And I, I mean, like, I think the case can be made that this is pretty consistent with how he has been throughout his entire character arc. I don't know. It's kind of like a couple episodes ago when when like the worst way to die would have been to die by science. Like I think I think it's not a great kill to convince someone to let go of a sword and then fall to his death. Like at least at least have the dignity of stabbing core in the face.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Right. Yeah. That's a fair point. Yeah. Grant him the dignity of that. Yeah. So do you believe Worf? Because like, that's why I say it's plausible deniability.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yeah. He's making the case that this is a, this is a survivable fall to a little ledge and core and dax basically say, no way could anybody safely land on that thing. Yeah, I mean, it's dax that underscores that. You wanted him to fall. That ledge would have never supported him and you knew it. You know, she's not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:49:17 She doesn't give a shit. It's like, that's the kind of thing a valk would train convinced you to do. Land on a little ledge like that. Probably wearing rocket boots. This fucking Vulcans. This conflict escalates right up to a sword versus dagger standoff between them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:34 But before they're able to like really start hacking each other to pieces, the Teral Group appears. And there's another, another fight. The Teral Group, famous for their replicants. Yeah. Which are illegal on earth, but widely used in the off-world colonies. God, I feel like you had that chamber
Starting point is 00:49:53 just ready to pounce on me. I don't know, I mean, I just, when you said Teral Group, that's what I thought of. Fair, yeah. Yeah, so Teral and the the Lethy and her back star track fighting with them, they get a beat everybody. Tarell does not die, but at Faser Point, Dax convinces him to shut off the jamming signal.
Starting point is 00:50:17 She's also a stunned Faser core and wharf. She's like, they get pretty close to killing each other, and she watches them for a pretty long time before stunning both of them. Dax is so weird with her phaser in this episode, because a few scenes before this, she uses the sort of Kayla's as a pillow and then holds her phaser under her own chin,
Starting point is 00:50:41 as she falls asleep. Yeah. Yeah, some, not great trigger discipline from Dax, I think. Bad firearm safety practices on display here. And then so after they get phasered, our next shot is actually one that sort of mirrors the shot of them discovering the sword, which is a, you know, the camera is like centered on the sword with Warfin' Core looking at it, and it's in the little transporter hutch inside the runabout, and they're kind of like saying their goodbyes to the sword. And kind of like justifying it, like they're like, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:26 this thing put a zap on our heads and clearly it was neither our destiny to like be the one to wield this thing and bring unity to our people. This is insane, right? Like this is a terrible plan. This is a terrible plan. Like, they should have just come home with it and done the first thing they said they were going to do, which is give it to the emperor, right? Like, Chrono Shishon fire right now. Like the high council is in ruins after their failed attack on the cardacions. Like, they speak in a detailed way about the good that the sword would do should it be produced and given to someone in the council. Right. I don't understand this decision at all. I guess they're just, they're okay with the status quo. And that is something that I just
Starting point is 00:52:19 can't get with. If they really care about the future of their world and their government, they have to, like, give it to DAX to give, you know, if she's such a collector of, of Klingon historical trivia and her understanding of their culture is so broad, make it DAX's mission. It's a fucking waste. She could also plausibly be its custodian for another couple hundreds of years to like wait for the time to be right or whatever if that's the way they want to play. Oh, that took a great point because she's going to live so long. I love that. Yeah, so I weird decision to beam it into space given that it is like the most valuable and potentially paradigm shifting artifact in their entire culture. Yeah. Like, beaming it into space is basically destroying it.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Like, yeah. Right? Because it's not likely to hit anything or land in a way that it survives. No, it's bizarre. It's too bad. It belongs in the museum, Ben. They throw it out the window and then turn to everybody else in the runabout and go, no ticket. They throw it out the window and it smashes against the enterprise B and it's it's christening ceremony. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha of the crew now because he's been given his own story here. It's been- It's been more of a episode. He's been kind of background. He's been B&C story relegated for a while. I like the Indiana Jones stuff about it.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I dislike how unwilling it was to go to like lean all the way into those elements. I thought those would have added a fun flavor to it. Yeah. Yeah. And also, this is one of those episodes where the insanity of the button kind of corrupts the rest of the
Starting point is 00:54:30 episode that came before. I mean, there's a lot to like here if maybe you pull a John Roderick and you turn it off before it's over as he did in the predator movie viewing for our hit podcast friendly fire, what have I you been? I really agree with you about all the like, like, how much more fun would this have been if they had really Indiana Jonesed it up and like had short-round be a character in it like, Warf cracks a whip over his head, all that stuff. It would have been great.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I also wondered if there wasn't one bit of tension missing in that, like, what if Dax as a trill, like, what if she needed to administer something like insulin to her, to what's inside her and that, you know, the longer she's away from the Rio Grande, the more danger she's in because of her inability to do that. It felt like there was the need for an additional layer of tension that wasn't here. This is just a very straight ahead, straightforward, A story-only situation. Well, I think it was kind of written in
Starting point is 00:55:40 with worth having that flesh wound, but they kind of forgot about it a bunch of times, you know? It like goes in and out of being a concern. Yeah, something about that felt a little off. Like it doesn't, like he gets, he gets like a very deep stab wound and then is able to do a whole bunch of star track fighting and running around and like rock scrambling despite that. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Dorn, like, Abily lets that arm hang and he pulls core up by the other arm and like he, he does the things you need to do to act like you have a busted
Starting point is 00:56:17 arm, but the story doesn't help him out there very much. Right. Right. But you know, on balance, I thought it was a really fun episode and I agree that it is, it really feels like warf is here now. Yeah, here to stay. Yeah. You know what else is here now Ben? What is here now Adam? An avalanche of priority when messages. Can you hear them. Oh, there, yeah, there they are. Let's take a look, see what we got. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement on it?
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Starting point is 00:57:53 New episodes released every Wednesday. I'm gonna look for that red dawn episode. Yeah, that sounds very intriguing question. I think we both know we'd be Leia Thompson. Mm-hmm. That might be Jennifer Gray. I don't know. Yeah. You got a P1 of your own to read. I sure do, bandit's of a personal nature. This from Andrew, it is for Jeff, my favorite PhD immunologist. The message goes like this. hello brother. This message is coming to you. Not for any specific purpose, but just because I love you.
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Starting point is 01:01:45 What do you think? One Ross and Kerry, available'm a shaman. Hey Adam! What's that been? Did you find yourself in drugs, Shemota? Shemota! Shemota! My Shemota is something that I want to do in real life, but I don't know if I have the stones to do it, which is earlier on in the episode in that bar scene, where Warf is sort of like by himself and he's sad.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. And Dex brings Kor over to introduce him to Wurf. Wurf after the handshake says, this is a great honor. And Cor's response is no doubt. It is so fucking great. Like, I would love, like, I would never do this, but like, one of the great parts of, like, doing the receiving line after a live show for greatest genders, like meeting people who
Starting point is 01:02:53 were excited to meet you, and it would be the most dickish move for a stranger to be like, oh, I love your show, you're so great and for me to be like, yeah, no doubt. Yeah. It's so fucked up. Yeah. It's so in keeping with course character too, like his self-mathologizing is, that's two words that tells the whole story. It's kind of the same, like I always interpreted it when, you know, like a fancy guy in a movie is introduced to someone and says, charmed, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Like I always interpret it in that way. And like what that actually means is like as we get to know each other, I'm sure I will have been charmed by this interaction. Right. Like it's it's it's not like I'm very charming and I'm sure that you're charmed by me. It's it's more like I'm sure that we will be charmed
Starting point is 01:03:43 by each other. Yeah. But like I always got that we will be charmed by each other. Yeah. But like I always got that vibe from it and yeah, it's a great point. I'll never do it to be clear. If I do it to you, I'm joking. Because it's a muscle shit. Yeah, yeah, it really is. You can only do it ironically.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Of course a huge asshole. What about you, Ben? Who's your Shimoda? My Shimoda is the Lethian for the dumb and bad way he fights. He is a bad asshole. What about you, Ben? Who's your Shimoda? My Shimoda is the Lethian for the dumb and bad way he fights. He is a bad fighter. Yeah. If you're choosing a fighter in your in your club or I'm a side scroll video game, you definitely do not want to choose the Lethian. That's that's a bad pick. He's only good when he gets the drop on somebody, you know. You want to pick Wolverine, He's only good when he gets the drop on somebody, you know? You want to pick Wolverine, you want to pick Cana Raiou,
Starting point is 01:04:27 you want to pick Homer, and then deep, deep, deep down the list. Balethian. That's a lot of fun. Bad fighter. Bad fighter. What do we have coming up on the next episode? Next episode is season four, episode 9, our man Bashir. Posing as a 1960s secret agent in a malfunctioning Hollisuite program Bashir is all that stands
Starting point is 01:04:57 between his trapped fellow officers and certain death. What's a good thing he's a doctor? Yeah. Might come in handy. It could. It could indeed. And we are currently on square 91 of the game of buttholes, the village of the Prophet.
Starting point is 01:05:16 We have one hazard ahead, which is a wormhole. But otherwise, I think smooth sailing. And if we don't roll a one, we are not hitting that wormhole, which goes down to a quirk's bar. Do we know yet what happens if we go through the end of the board? Is there a new board after? Do we go back to one? We've gone back to one previously. Remember we had that power hour? That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah. I mean, that could be like, that wouldn't be the next episode, but that could be the episode after next. If, I mean, if it's programmed to where we are guaranteed to hit more in hammered before we recycle to one. You know, anyone out there who's thinking of, of, I'm not going to say go to one. You know, anyone out there who's thinking of criticizing me for not remembering the last time we did Mornhammered, I think should understand that of course I don't remember that episode. It was Mornhammered. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I lost you. I took me like a full 36 hours to feel right after that. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Why don't you roll them bones, Ben? Chula! Did I win? Hardly. Oh my goodness, I've rolled a six.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Putting us on square 97. So the only two things in ahead of us, I guess, are an nth degree episode that we could hit via a wormhole and a more enamored power hour episode. Big roll. Nice roll. Big roll. I think maybe we should discuss or think about changing the board next time we go through
Starting point is 01:07:02 it. I think as we've done this go around, we've come up with some new and interesting ideas for squares that we began talking about with the admin, so maybe we can make something happen in time for that. Let me propose this to you. By the time we record our next episode, why don't we have done some independent thinking about that and we can make our Marin discussing ways in which we might change this board. I love it when this becomes work. So thank you for that. I don't have to do anything. You just have to like have thought about it.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah, it sounds like an assignment to me. Forget it. Forget I said anything at him. I apologize. I'll never forget. Ben, I'll never forget this episode either. We also never forget to thank the many people who make episodes like this possible. Yeah, we should thank all of our contributors who have gone to MaximumFund.org slash donate
Starting point is 01:08:08 and support the show on a monthly basis. We hugely, hugely appreciate what you do for us. We also appreciate the folks that go, you know, rate and review the show on Animal Podcasts and anywhere else. You get your podcasts and the folks that recommend is that I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. I can do it.
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Starting point is 01:09:34 but there's all kinds of great stuff over there. And I'm sure you'll find some other podcasts that you enjoy listening to. Yeah, now's the time to get on the greatest discovery wagon and watch Star Trek Discovery. That's what my recommendation would be. Yeah. Start understanding more of these jokes. We're sprinkling into our mainline greatest gen programming.
Starting point is 01:09:55 That's probably a mistake, right? Yeah. Should be doing that. Why not? They're, you know, like we, I think partly intentionally took Greatest Gen to a one-a-week schedule because we saw how much Star Trek was coming. So in a lot of ways, Greatest Discovery is just the second episode of Greatest Gen every week. So I think it's good to canonically listen to it.
Starting point is 01:10:20 It's the second episode that we were excoriated for not creating. So there you go. Yeah, it's there. Any other thank yous? On Tuesday. Is that it? Uh, that's it. With that, we'll be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9
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