The Greatest Generation - It’s Always Your Birthday at the Klingon Restaurant (DS9 S5E24)

Episode Date: January 27, 2020

When Chief O’Brien needs to go on a parts run, he takes a runabout to a pick and pull salvage station. But when it turns out the place is protected by racist Cardassians, what was once O’Brien’s simple maintenance project turns into building warriors out of engineers. How many people has Worf killed? What’s the best camera trick to make your station look bigger? Where is the Setlik 3 O’Brien action figure? It’s the episode enjoyed by the weirdo at the library!

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I'm Adam Brannica. The holidays are over. We had a long break from recording the greatest generation, but we're back. Yeah. An imperceptible break to the listeners. That's how we like it. Yeah. I'm very proud of the fact that we always release an episode no matter what. Perfect record so far.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha. So speaking of only things, we only have received one thing in the PO box that was actually meant for us. I think I got a Christmas card for its previous user. But that's nice. There was no return address on it. So I felt bad

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and it is the best part of my day. You bring me joy. And he says he went to the Denver live show last year in Austin this year. I think I remember meeting Matt L. That show was very memorable for a totally other reason that we experienced in line. But I also definitely remember these people from the ICAC. The Challenge Coin is really cool. It's about the size of a silver dollar. It's not a great big giant one. Like our bloated-ass Challenge Coin. I thought if for its association with children it might look like a video arcade token.

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Most people react that way when I drop their names. Yeah. Well, thanks so much. And if you have something that you would like to send us to a physical address, please go ahead and reach out. It's DrunkSromota at gmail.com. And I do my best to keep an eye on that inbox and send the address to people who request it. Not perfect. So if you don't hear back the first time, just try again. It's not personal. It's just that there are so many things

coming into that inbox at all times that it's impossible to reply to everything. It's definitely been found by spammers too. So it's like an extra element of dig that's required. Definitely. Well Adam do you want to get into the weird episode that we came here today to talk about? I really do right after what I am going to call a sufficient Marin. I think that was good that's all the Marin we needed. We we occasionally really luxuriate in a long Marin.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, there have been episodes where we go 20 minutes. That's too much. Nobody wants that. No wants that. That's too many clicks of the forward 30 seconds. That's what's called overmarinating. Yeah, sure is.

It's fun to deal podcast with somebody that doesn't think you're funny. It's just an act, Ben. I think you're one of the funniest people. I only believe you're not funny for the show. Oh cool. Cool. All Alright, let's get into it. It's Season 5, Episode 24, Empoknor. To- Do you realize how many- What about this, Sees? Hahaha! Hahaha!

No, of course you've done. I have the hardest time with the Norse. I always want to call them... NWARS. Hahaha. And no one on the show seems to have that problem Yeah, well, you know you're not supposed to use the word nor without the word neither appearing earlier in the sentence also Right so should be neither

Impact nor Cardassian I think you found it you found my main problem is grammatical. You're right. Yeah, it's not pronunciation whatsoever. It's like the Ursula Gwynn rule of giving your space alien characters names is like they have to pass your mental spell check. They can't just be like an assembly of nonsense letters. Yeah, that's what makes science fiction writing so difficult.

It's coming up with names that are both sensical and nonsensical. Right, very challenging. I think they do a good job of that on Star Trek for the most part. This is an episode that's a lot about mixing tone. And the tone that this episode starts with is the single brass instrument of drinking alone.

It's Qu quarks bar, mourners at the bar by himself, and the occasional sound of what could be like a spoon and a garbage disposal. What was that? Going off when Dax, Kira, and Warflock in looking for a drink and an eat. Fun industrial noise. That's it! Just mind if you would chief of Brian repairing some conduit.

This happened to me in my wife just the other day. We went out for a hamburger sandwich for lunch at an outdoor eatery in Chinatown, in Los Angeles's Chinatown, and we set, you know, ordered our burgers, and we sat down at our picnic table, and we're having a pleasant conversation, and just with comedic timing, our burgers were ready

and the jackhammer started at the same moment. That's great. Yeah. It's like, I guess we're gonna just wolf these down as fast as we can, because this is intolerable. Maybe think a lot about sound design and science fiction and specifically in Star Trek because like the things that are meant to get your attention in Star Trek

are the alert claxons and the sound of laser fire or a torpedo or something. But when you get something that is like metal on metal like this, it really seems out of place in a way that gets your attention. It's a sound that you don't experience on Star Trek very often at all. And I think that that's because so many of the solutions to problems are so high tech and so advanced. And this is kind of an illustration of the problem with this space station is they have Cardassian parts that they don't have access to the after market for.

And it's weird, right? Because you hear that this is some sort of plasma conduit issue. Plasma do a dish you like plasma manifold I think is what O'Brien calls it later but like it sounds like a dryer full of coffee beans like it sounds more mechanical than sciencey it's enough to drive off Kira d'Ax and Warf who decided to go to the Klingon restaurant how could that be any quieter though to go to the Klingon restaurant. How could that be any quieter though? I mean, I think that that was the premise of the joke, right? You get that guy singing at you the whole time. It's always your birthday at the Klingon restaurant, right? Right, yeah, Worf gets a, it's a Sombraero.

Yeah. Put it on and said. The Sombraero of God. Oh. Ha, ha, ha, ha. That'd be so much fun. Oh, it'd be great. I miss that guy. Terrible mistake for DS9 to have written that set and that character off the show.

Terrible mistake and it seems like in this script they are admitting some regret. More and two years look like belly buttons to me. Do you think the noise isn't an issue for him? Cause he's not flinching at all when the sound happens and he's perfectly content to be at the bar. Morn has one place in the world that he wants to be in. He'll put up with almost anything to be there. I'm envious of him.

It does seem nice. I wish I had a place I wanted to be most in the world. Yeah. Instead, you'd just mild discomfort everywhere. Yeah. It's not really living in a place. Nag is assisting Chifobrion in these plasma ducts. And I was surprised that neither of them

was wearing hearing protection, given this is like several walls away from where Quarx bar is But it's very loud in Quarx bar Right you would think that for angus would have like really serious earplugs Given some of the capabilities their ears have been demonstrated to have they're over the ear Your protection has got to be like what what, to Frisbee golf discs? I believe it's frolph. Right. So it's to avoid using the trademarked

WAMO brand name for flying discs. That would be how our show ends. Yeah. A very protracted legal dispute with the WAMO company. With a legacy toy company. And one not associated with Star Trek at all. Yeah, you infringed our mark. Yeah, crushed by big frisbee.

That's how we go out. Totally. So Chivo, Brian, and Odo will actually bring the problem with these plasma manifolds to Captain Cisco, who hears them out and they explain like the only way to really fix this is to go get spare parts from this other identical space

station that the Cardassians abandoned last year. And Puccino. It's the same design as this station. This is an episode in a series of episodes where a decision is brought to Captain Cisco that he makes and then he exits the story completely for the next 45 minutes. Is Cisco being sidelined? I don't know, you, you speculated on a recent episode that maybe American history acts is shooting around this time. Yeah. So maybe he's getting, getting breaks written into the, into the scripts. Yeah. I,

I say this is someone who loves watching Avery Brooks work. Like, that's why I miss him. It also seems just exactly how a captain would be on a station like this. Right. This is not the kind of job that a captain goes and deals with. It's a five minute conversation he has one day and then never thinks about it again.

And most of his life has got to be like that. Yeah, he's got to deal with that all the time. Yeah. He's not in the business of architectural salvage. No. You know who is? Garek. Lately, I've noticed everyone seems to trust me.

It's quite unnerving. I'm still trying to get used to it. Which is a great pairing. I like the idea of putting him with O'Brien. Their mission is to go to Empoknor, which is like a sister station to Taraknor. And this is a kind of science fiction that I love the most. One of my favorite episodes at TNG was the Nagilum episode, where the Enterprise runs into itself, and it feels haunted and strange.

And there are many other examples of like, anytime we see a version of the home that we live on on a show, and it's a little bit dark or fucked up or haunted feeling. Like that is a, that's a micro genre within this that I really love. Agreed. It's super fun and they, you know,

they're heading out to Empoknor and they talk a lot about the stakes of even going there because it's an abandoned space station but Cardassian policy is to leave booby traps behind when you leave an installation like this and that is kind of tossed off near a boolean enlisted man like a like one of chief O'Brien's engineers presumably and he goes into the airlock where a bunch of other engineers are you know gathering bags that they're going to be bringing up board and we realize that this is going to be a bit of a lower deck set episode. Didn't we just do crew evaluation reports? Yeah.

The transition is a little awkward, like they just sort of swing the camera over to you. Yeah, the camera is following Chief of Ryan and Garrick and then it finds this bollyon and then it's more interested in him than it is in the two characters that we know. Yeah, I mean, there's, there are a couple ways that you see this done on television.

And one of them is like the dialogue handoff where a character will talk to a lower dex person and then you're with them until the end of a scene and you transition away. But this is a camera version of that. And that's why it sticks out a little bit. I like that every single one of these characters had a at a Boston accent though. When you're replacing the plasma manifold on an aging kitesian space station,

it's not easy to find those pots new in box on the shelves of your local hardware store. That's why we're going to a stimulus-based station in another pad of town. God, I definitely know the answer to this question, Ben. But have you ever been to a scrap yard? Like, where they keep old cars, where you can pick and pull? I've never done a car kind,

but my father was a contractor and became an architect and is a very handy guy and very interested in woodworking and stuff. So when I was a kid, there were lots and lots of trips to architectural salvage yards and places where you could find like, oh yeah, we have like 25 banister pieces from a Victorian house in San Francisco that we like saved when they were knocking the house down. It just blew my little kid mind to go to a place where you could sit inside 30 wrecked cars. You know, well, my dad looked for a window crank to replace the one that he had, you know? That's just a fun day out. Yeah. And that's sort of the vibe you get from this episode.

Like they don't make these parts. You have to go get one. You can't replicate them. There's something about the molecular structure of the parts that is There's impossible to replicate. So they make like a big list, right? Like there's a list of stuff they definitely need to get, stuff they'd like to get, and then stuff that would be cool to have if they can find it. I like the implied we need to get value

for the mission-ness of that moment, you know? Like while we're here and we have all these people, like let's not just get Plan A, let's get some backup stuff too. I don't necessarily love the way they divide that work up though, because there's like two people on Plan A, two people on Plan B, two people on Plan C. Yeah, they shouldn't have equal labor associated, right?

Yeah, or they should be like, all right, let's do Plan A and B, and then if we have time, we'll do plan C or something like that. There are a lot of characters in this episode. It feels very dense that way. You get your mains with O'Brien and Garrick, and right away, there's a tension between them over the whole set-like three situation. Yeah. O'Brien, as sort of, maybe, is considered by the Cardassians to be kind of a butcher. This idea of O'Brien being the hero of set like three was a thing that was discussed during TNG. Remember that episode? I think it was the wounded when we got to meet O'Brien's former captain, Captain Maxwell. That was one of the great TNG episodes. That one with Maxwell and like singing war songs

together and stuff. Like O'Brien is sort of legendary in this way and you only got a little glimpse of that in the wounded but you really get the sense that the butcher of set like three is a rep that O'Brien bristles that a little bit and it's something that Garek really relishes in pressing that bruise. Yeah, the terminology Garek uses, of course, is the hero of set like three, but it seems

like heroism earned in the process of ending the lives of a lot of Cardassian soldiers. It comes up eventually in the episode that like Orion doesn't even know how many people he killed in that in that action. Something he probably has a lot in common with Wharf with, right? Like Wharf probably doesn't know either and the people he's just killed. I mean, people have you like beamed over to their ship and just bad left. Right. Like that's a fingers and toes situation for war.

Yeah. And you try to avoid scenarios that provoke war to taking his shoes off. Yeah. Because gross. Yeah. Yeah. You think you use a mechleth? Like, what do, what do

Klingon personal hygiene utensils look like in the, in the finger and toenail department? Oh, man. Yeah. Klingon Toja was got to be real serious shit. Why in all of the Star Trek convention merchandise spaces we've been to, has there never been a really rugged looking toenail clipper that looks like too bad less? Do we have to come up with all this stuff? Apparently, I mean, I know that the Warrior, the Legends t-shirt, is flying off the shelves over at maxfunstore.com. It's already sold out, but it wasn't.

But yeah, I mean, do we now need to do a set of Clippers, one for your beard and two for your pubes? I'm ready to disrupt the science fiction personal grooming space. That's what I'm talking about. Do you think that it's like, it's considered weird to use the same set of Clippers on your right pubes as it is on your left left pubes. That's just nasty man, what the fuck? Yeah you sick, you sick fuck. Maybe you get a little wild on one half and the other hemisphere you keep it tight. You do a little warrior escaping on one side.

Yeah. Just let it go nuts on the other side. Whatever mood you're in. Yeah. Gold to cotton, the cut. To cut, to go to cut to a word. So one thing that happens a bunch of times in this episode is we see a Cardassian sort of Moncola game getting played. And initially it is Garek up against Nog

who is part of the mission. Nog comes aboard heavily armed with a crazy phaser rifle. Phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. But Nog and Garrick have a kind of an interesting conversation about the game because Nog has this very like hyper capitalist foringy approach to the way he plays a board game that Garrick says is like maladaptive to this game because this is a Cardassian game, so it's all about like conquest and subjugation. This is not a financial transaction.

And I thought that that was a really fun way to like the games that we play and like the ideals that they espouse is such an interesting way to differentiate different species and different cultures. Yeah, it really is. I like that touch. That game's going to come back again later. You just know it. Yeah. We get a lot of fun exterior shots of Empoknor, and one of them is here as the run-about approaches. They can't just beam aboard because of the booby traps and they can't just find a pylon to land on. Like they can't do this conventionally, so they need to creep

up to an upper pylon in order to board the station. And every time we see the exterior, the station is a tilt. But there's one element to this shot that I really like that I feel like we don't get too often on Deep Space 9, which is a parallaxing pan shot. And I think it is the one way you can really get a sense for the differences in size between the runabout and a station like this. Like when you're just locked off looking at a runabout

zoom by and the station in the background, you don't really get it. But that parallax effect, zoom by, and the station and the background, you don't really get it. But that parallax effect, I think, really sells how differently sized the two things are, and it makes the station look huge. Yeah, it's a shot that I wish we'd gotten in season one episode one. Because you finally get to see, like, relative size in a three-dimensional... You get a three-dimensional sense of it because of the way the camera moves.

Right. And yeah, like they really do a nice job of making sure every time you see the station, the camera is at an angle or the station is at an angle, which is like, I think it's something that that like the J.J. Abrams Star Trek film played with two great effects and it is played with two great effect in this episode just making you feel ill at ease by showing the fact that vertical is kind of a is kind of an idea that only exists on the on a planet even the very name is racist and I also love to see in Garek in a space suit. Get people in space suits more often Star Trek. It's great. Yeah, I agree. I mean between the space suit and the phaser

rifle that Nog is carrying, you get the sense that they kind of rated the Star Trek first contact props room, right? Totally. Yeah. Nice. It's good to see that stuff get reused. It's too good to just languish in storage. The concern here and it is attended to the fact that this is probably the episode of Star Trek that uses the word booby more than any other, is that the station is probably full of traps and they're probably queued to non-cardassian DNA. So that's why Garrick is the one to go aboard and like turn on all the lights and turn the gravity back on and everything. It's a fun moment of a dead thing coming to life.

And the station isn't the only thing because as soon as we cut to the exterior, as the lights are coming on, we find ourselves inside the infirmary where a row of stasis pods has also come to life. And a few of whom have living, Cardassian inhabitants. God this can remove is so cool because it goes from a very wide shot showing all three pods to like an ECU on the eye of one of them opening up. Yeah.

And it's not a steady cam shot. It's like a handheld camera move, which they really lean on handheld in this episode because it makes you feel so ill at ease. And it's really great. It is such a creepy shot. And they really nail the focus and the framing and everything. It's really great. We should mention that this episode is directed by Mike Veyhar and the stories by Brian Fuller. Mike Veyhar has an interesting reputation on Deep Space 9 as kind of a tryhard.

of Space Nine is kind of a tryhard. Like, he was known as the guy who always ran long and like kept people on set extra long, like all of his shooting days were like that. And he acquired the nickname VHARTER and VHARTER where his willingness to put in long hours shooting, which everyone else involved with, the show having to stay on set along with him.

So, not a great reputation, but he directed nine episodes of DS9 and the coming of age episode of TNG. Wow. Nine is kind of the magic number, right? Kind of is. It is. It's the magic number. So they have to be super careful moving around this station.

The rules are like make sure you scan every area before you move into it and just tread super lightly because we have no idea what we're in for. And sort of a haunted house episode like one of the up shots of the way they're getting the A, B, and C list of equipment is we're all splitting up and that's always a bad move in a horror film. You do get stolt off and nog having sex later on. Yeah well they're punished for their teen love. Right. I mean, and you're happy for nog initially, you're like, yeah, finally.

Like, that's great. Yeah, not again. Yeah, but then he's killed in horror movie fashion. Yeah. The split-ups fun, it adds to, I mean, it's a big station little people. Like, that's one of the other stresses you feel. Like, everything's dark.

You're just with one or two people at a time. And you never quite feel safe no matter who you're with. Like, very intentionally, O'Brien is pairing engineers with security officers. So, the intent is to make them feel all right. But no one ever feels that way. Yeah, somebody that's gonna know how to loosen all the bolts and get the right thing. And then somebody that's going to know how to loosen all the bolts and get the right thing

and then somebody to watch that person's back. But like some people get paired with Garrick, for example. Right. And Garrick very quickly stumbles across Gew, which is he's probably the worst possible person to stumble across this Gew as we will come to find out. The shot is one of the first times that I really feel like the episode's director was inspired by aliens. There's that close up to a hand, recoiling from a handrail, and there's that biogenic compound on it. And you just know it's going to be bad news. Yeah. it and you just know it's going to be bad news. Yeah, Garyx got LV 426 problems, but Zeno more faint one.

It's a mouthful, but I like it. I wish he would have been at greater pains to wipe this off himself. It is impossible to wipe his hands off. Yeah, he just keeps it on while the bullion guy scans him. And then that's when they notice the infirmary with the stasis pods. And they find two of them are open and empty. But one of them has had a girder fall into it

and break the glass. It's a brutal case of girder murder. It's just a phenomenon that happens from time to time in Star Trek. Yeah, nothing more deadly than a girder in Star Trek, that's for sure. It's fun to see a like a desiccated cardassian though. I loved the loaf being all like pulled pulled taught against the skull. It seems like space would be a place where you'd be most likely to find an old desiccated corpse of any kind.

And yet you rarely see them in Star Trek. You see a recent phaser blasted person or bones, but rarely do you get the middle ground. Adam, you know where you see a lot of them though, is the TNG episode booby trap. Yep. Which is the other episode that's in contention for most utterances of the word booby. You're right. What the hell? Which episode do you think has more of the word booby in it?

The TNG episode booby trap or the DS9 episode, Empok Noor? I'm gonna find out right now. Ahhhhhh, God. Is it chickening out to guess that they have the same number of utterances? Now I mean push is something that you could bet. I love that you know that. I would never know that. Okay, I called up BoobyTrap.

Let me get the other one going. All right, Ben, I have tallied the votes, the results are in. And the guy from PricewaterhouseCoopers is handing you the envelope. Would you believe that the TNG episode booby trap has five utterances of the word booby? The DS9 episode, Empok Noor has five utterances. Wow. The word booby, you are the winner, Ben.

USA, USA, USA. USA. Wow, I was not expecting that. But I mean, clearly, to the top booby episodes in all the Star Trek. Yeah, and telling about us that we are as conscientious of that. Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, has left a tool on board the runabout that he has to go back to. So he scampers on back

to where it is docked and it is not where they left it. It is in fact spinning in space and then a moment later explodes in space. I loved the use of a lighting effect and reflection in the window when he watches this because the camera cuts to outside the space door in the upper pile on and you see the reflection of the runabout exploding in the window. I wonder how many runs at this they gave Aaron Eisenberg because I really like the choice in his reaction here but Nog as a character can be very screaming and panicky. And this is the change that being a cadet has made in him.

Like I think pre-starfleet cadet Nog would have screamed in this moment, but something is hardened in him. And I think that that's a little credit to Aaron Eisenberg's choices as an actor. Like he's really made major changes in how he plays the character to follow the character's story arc. This is a really bad moment because in a lot of horror films, you don't want your card to break down on the dark road.

You don't want to be stranded. This is what has happened. Yeah. And so everybody gets together and this is kind of when all of the bad news gets to everyone. It's, we don't have an RV to get home and also there's two murder and cardacians wandering around the station. And as they're talking about this, they also discover that all of their equipment is gone dead.

There's some kind of damping field. The phone lines have been cut. Yeah. And to continue the metaphor. To continue the homage to aliens. Now what the fuck are we supposed to do? Right. It's like exactly the same problem as we need to figure out a way

to get in touch with the mother ship. And that means all of our plans have been sidelined while we deal with that. It's a pretty fun problem for an engineer to solve though because they are in this scrapyard. They have everything they need to solve the problem in kind of a mageiver kind of way. So O'Brien redistributes his crew to tasks that have to do with gathering supplies in order to turn the station into kind of a giant telegraph machine. Right. This is a good plan, exuberant has the effect again of splitting everybody

up. Right. And so in fairly short order of these these Cardassian guards who have been left behind to guard the station start taking out Krumann. Yeah, and it's stolt stuff and perchetti that go first and they go almost exactly like the first two in Aliens do. One is pulled through a wall, one is thrown over a balcony. Like I think that's like they are the frost and crow of this episode. Yeah. That can't be an accident, right?

No, that is, this is the aliens episode of Dief's Race 9. Yeah. It's super fun and even the music sting, you were mentioning the music earlier. Like that kind of cascade orchestration of what music sounds like during a jump scare definitely happens here. And super scary, like the use of light and shadow and positioning the camera so that it's like looking through material, like there's a great shot where the guy is like pulling a circuit board or something out of something and you see the door up on the

second level of the promenade. And it closes as he pulls the thing out. There's so many moments where the composition of the shot is just perfect to really peg your fear needle. Yeah, super effective. The lighting on the station, not just atmospherically, but how characters are lit really evokes this feeling of aliens too. It's so much rim light and not a lot of not a lot of key low key lighting all the way through. Yeah, it feels contextually understandable because of aliens, you know, like you know what this is supposed to feel like because you've seen it before but it's not a rip-off. Yeah, it's

It's homage and yeah, and like and I think that that's crucial right like it's not the story of aliens with deep-shrase nine characters mapped onto it It's very much its own story like and I really like you know like there's the one guy who's like really interested in collecting like likeorabilia. Like he's a throwaway character that dies early in the episode, but he feels like super three dimensional just because he has like a weird interest in that and there are two or three mentions of it. Like you feel those deaths a lot more because of things like that. Yeah, just a little personal information about each one is all you need. They find this guy and stilts off the one lady engineer have, have bought it. This is about when we start to see Garrick like kind of going for itchy scratches on his neck periodically, slightly subtler than like coughing up a little, a little

hanky full of blood, but starting to pepper in the idea that Garrick is not well. Right. I don't intend to stand around waiting to be killed. I think what's interesting about this is that there are subtle physical changes to Garrick, but his attitude doesn't really feel that much different from how he was on the run about. He's still goading O'Brien about what he did at setlick 3. He's wondering how much O'Brien may relish the chance to kill Cardassians again. You know, he's in a great deal of danger at this point, right?

Because like at least Amaro among the crew seems to have a very itchy trigger finger. And Derek is goading O'Brien to the point of almost like challenging him to do something about the enmity he feels toward Cardassians. But O'Brien to his credit keeps a cool head, and is very focused on solving the problem of being out of communication without a car to get home. O'Brien does that thing when you've got an employee you can't really control, and that's Garrick, right? Garrick doesn't want to be a part of the team.

He wants to go off on his own to kill the soldiers himself. And O'Brien sort of pivots his rebellion into something he can use. You know? Like he sort of plays it out in the moment like, well, someone's got to be on Cardassian duty and it might as well be Garrick. So go ahead and kill the Cardys. Right. And he does effectively because we almost immediately cut to Garrick's trap that he's laid for one of the soldiers. He's in the infirmary and he's like loudly tapping on a computer, getting attention. That's us tonight. Access.

Denied. Being the jangly keys that attracts this Cardassian soldier and he hides in one of these stasis chambers and pops out and gets the jump on the guy and kills him. He hides in the broken stasis chamber, crucially, which means he had to move all those creepy bones. You think you did? Yeah. You didn't think you just got on top?

Yeah, I think he had to move those bones to get in there. Guess so. Tom Morga plays one of these evil cardacians. Yeah. Tell morgueo we should say a famous Jason. One of the most famous Jason's. One of the best Jason's. I thought he looked familiar.

Yeah. And Garrick really enjoys doing this murder. We get a little scene in one of the cargo bays where Nug is asking Chief like what gives with all this setlick 3 stuff like what why does that keep coming up? What did you do there? You know the chief is very circumspect about it He was like why does Gary keep bringing up setlick 3? The phaser was set at maximum The man just just incinerated There before my eyes I was a soldier now.

Sometimes soldiers have to kill. And Garrick comes back in, crowing about the Cardassian he's killed, gives the chief the emblem from the Cardassian so that he can give it to... Well, I guess Pachetti is dead at this point, right? So it's just like in honor of Pichetti that he gives it to him.

I think this moment serves to evoke the grief over Pichetti's death. Like boy, wouldn't it be nice if you were alive because this is the purpose? He would have loved this. Yeah, it's that kind of feeling. It's sort of like the Jewish soldier in a world war two film taking home a luger that he took off of a Nazi officer

or whatever. Or a scalp. Yeah, in a bad World War II film, for example. But Gareth wasn't just in the infirmary killing people and moving bodies around. He also got information. Yeah, he did some science in there. He found that psychotropic drugs were in the dead soldier's body,

and they were given to him in order to amplify a cardacians already there xenophobic feelings. Yeah, he was high as hell on racism drugs. It's a xenophobic amplifier. So they gave them a drug to make them hate anybody but Kardashians. Maybe it's an experiment that went wrong. And I think anybody that has watched Garrick scratch his neck two times already in this

episode can do the math on Garrick has been dosed with this. Garrick's like I found a prescription bottle in his tunic. He had a bottle full of forechan. I've never heard of it. I probably shouldn't have eaten that bugger I found on that railing. Yeah, and so now we're starting to understand that it's not just a next scratch and sweats for Garyx, that his exposure to whatever it is on the station is probably going to result in some violent consequences for everyone else.

Because I don't know if you've noticed, Garrick is the only Cardassian in this crew, so their ability to get along is going to be diminished. Long live the sweet Lord! Long live the Lord! Have a time! And in very short order, the remaining Cardassian soldier kills Bokta and then Garrick kills the Cardassian soldier and Amaro, the last of O'Brien's crew. So we're left with Garrick, Nag and O'Brien being the only people alive on the station. And O'Brien finds Amaro just in time for Amaro to, like, with his last breath, tell him who did the deed.

Garrick has gone full racist. It's a shock when Garrick stabs Amaro with the flux coupler, right? Yeah, I mean, like you see it coming and it is still just like super dirty feeling. Yeah. And so now it's kind of a, O'Brien and Nog need to find and eliminate Garrick kind of a deal.

And they get a radio communication from him. He's up on the command deck in the old station commander's office, and he's found a game of Kardashian-Mancala that he would like the chief to come play with him. You often get the climax of a conflict in television being protagonist and antagonist, finally reaching the same location and having their fight. And what's so interesting about what O'Brien is going through is that he's resisting the thing in him that is the Cardassian killer. Like, he knows Garrick. He doesn't want to do it. A part of him wants to save him. A part of him resents that Garrick believes him to be a thing that he isn't.

And yet a part of him knows that he may have to kill a guy and become what Garrick is calling him. Yeah, is super uncomfortable with that. Mainly probably because he doesn't want to have to look busier in the eye and tell him what he did. Is there a action figure of setlic 3O Brian'Brien, which is like just the Rambo doubt? Miles O'Brien? Would love to see that.

Do you think Keko ever calls him setlic 3, O'Brien? They do some kind of sexy costume play where she's like, tonight I want the hero of setlic 3 to come home and take me she she grabs a spoon from the play setting and like sticks it up to her forehead I Want you to really ravage me miles Give it to me like you gave it to all those soldiers you killed Jesus come on cake. I want you to murder this fucking purse miles Jesus, come on, Kako. I want you to murder this fucking purse, Miles.

Ha ha ha ha. The reality is Kako wishes she could get set like three little more off in the New Birthday. Yeah, so they head up to Ops and this is a classic garrick trap. Yep. You know, you get O'Brien up in the commander's office, knock down in the huddle area in the center

of the room, and the door slam shut, and there's a force field, and then Nog gets taken hostage by crazed racist garrick. I think they did nog wrong here by wrapping him up like a damsel in distress put on railroad tracks. Ty do a railroad track. I couldn't get that image out of my mind like the way that he's binded up evokes only that for me. Don't do it cheap. I really do like Garrick toward the end of this episode.

He gets super smegel with his line reads and Moody and I don't know I just love it. He's totally crazed. They like definitely hit him with the mister every time they get him on camera. He's like drenched in sweat. So they have to make like an agreement. We're going to meet it down on the promenade, no weapons. Let's talk this out. So we get we get O'Brien kind of like Lurking on the promenade, you know running around with his gun

I feel like you got to turn the headlight off on your gun if you're trying to be Sneaking around with a rifle guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair and Not looking good. O'Brien continues to negotiate. He's all right with meeting him without weapons on the promenade, and so they do. And the funny part is that they both arrive with weapons. Neither of them are willing to trust the other, which is great. Yeah, very, very realistic, I think. Yeah, so they finally do drop their weapons and go hand-to-hand here.

And the dark covers up the stuntmen cutting nicely. I thought this sequence cut together real nice. I agree. It was a fun Star Trek fight. Kind of like a Tiger Claw combat style. I like that quite a bit. Hardassians are so scale-y, I can't believe that punching one would really do all that much. I wonder if you could peel one of their scales to really hurt them.

Yeah, I would like to see that. Yeah, like really claw at him, O'Brien. Like, turn your hand around and claw outward to see if you can separate some of those neck scales. O'Brien uses the power of engineering and not his fists to subdue Garrick because when he put his weapons down he put a phaser on top of his tricorder and then when he was thrown free from the melee he taps his communicator badge and it triggers this improvised explosive that He's got a great action movie equitable.

Yeah. Maybe you're not a soldier anymore. You're right. I'm an engineer. It would have been great if like we cut from, from Garrick to O'Brien, he triggers the thing back to the explosion and it's just like a red mist. Hahaha. back to the explosion and it's just like a red mist. That... That... That...

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It's amazing. You can do it. We all done. With light and angle. That's funny how that's all the context you need. It's amazing. You can do it with light and angle. That's it. The visual language of this show is so detailed and rich that they can literally one establishing shot. And there's no question in your mind where this is setting up the scene.

You know what safety feels like and you know what danger feels like based on those two things. They're in the infirmary and Bashir is kind of getting Garrick back to health. He's sort of detoxing on his racism drug. And Bashir is a great pain to say like anybody would have done what Garrick did when exposed to a drug like this. Like, this, he was not in control of his action.

So, the two murders he did are going to be hard to blame on him. But, nevertheless, there's going to be an inquest, and Garrick is going to have to answer for this in some way. Based on the show's track record, maybe he will, maybe he won't. But really, awkward moment when Garrick Sob Ryan to talk to Amaro's widow for him, you know, knowing correctly that she's not going to want to talk to him. Oh yeah, I guess Garrick only really killed one person. But I think you could make the case that he was responsible for Bokta's death.

He sort of allowed it to happen. Yeah, he could have killed that other guy quicker and not allowed Bokta's neck to be broken. Yeah, Bokta went out ugly with that like mini garage door going down in his head. Look, he was trying to follow Spock's Mark Ive torpedo tube out into space. It just takes his head out there.

If he'd been any closer to O'Brien's little improvised explosive device, it would have killed him, but he just has a couple of broken ribs and a rung bell. Yeah, it's kind of a reverse slide whistle at the end, right, like that realization that, yeah, he was trying to kill him, he just didn't. Yeah. So, Garrick was right, kind of.

Kind of. Did you like the episode? I really did. This is a weird day for me because I had like a bunch of medical stuff I had to go do. So I ended up taking this episode on an iPad to the library and watching it at the library mostly and then watching like the last 10 minutes in the waiting room at my doctor's office. But, does that make you the weirdo at the library? Like are the porn watching hobos,

the ones moving away from you? They saw me masturbating to the youth base night and they definitely moved to the other side of the computer area. That guy's a real creep. Something wrong with him. Wow, yeah. Did it change your feelings about the show to take it in a different environment? I mean, I think that what struck me about it was this is a very atmospheric episode, very creepy episode, and I felt like it was effective,

despite the fact that I wasn't in a dark TV watching room with, you know, it was far from an ideal viewing experience, and yet it was still very effective, and I really liked it. That's kind of a great litmus test for something like this. Like, it's sort of like the thing with comedy that we talk about a lot,

which is like if you laugh and you're by yourself, I think that's effective comedy, but if you're scared watching a thing, but you're also in public, that's a check in the for column for intensity and horror Definitely, that's how about you. Did you like the episode? I? Really did, but it does suffer from the where is the little D problem that I think so often pokes a hole in an episode story Like you just you have to believe that there's no other way to communicate with Deep Space

9 once you're stuck on this other station. You have to rationalize the idea that even though they're in a dangerous place, the defiant isn't going to go. Like they're going to stuff a run about full of all these people. But I was able to suspend that thinking and I enjoyed the episode for being able to do it. Agreed. One thing that we cannot suspend is our program of priority one messages because they're the thing that keeps the show going. You want to check out our inbox? No, let's not do it this time. Alright. Now I'm just kidding, let's do it. Alright. Now I'm just kidding, let's do it! Alright. He really had me go in there.

Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages here. The first one is from Assistant Chief Engineer Christmas, Tequila, Shimoda. That sounds like a James Bond name. It's Deben and Adam. It goes like this. I know you like P1 questions, so I have two-ish. One. Adam, did you ever watch MagGrubber with your wife?

No. And it's been something I've been wanting to do forever. Ben, I'm sure you have this problem. I hesitate to call it a problem, but this challenge also, which is like you want to share something you love so much with your special person and you just know that that's not going to go well. And so there really isn't a good time to present that and do that. And so I've been unable to make that happen.

I have an idea. How about this? You're gonna be an L.A. with your wife pretty soon. What about an evening where you and your wife and me and my wife order a pizza and make some cocktails or something and we watch Magrubr together? That sounds great.

That's a fun group activity. I love it, I love it, let's do it. He didn't. The second question, do you think a lot of Starfleet Academy is just programming your brain to be able to speed read science? Elkars and Miles's Wands seem to display a lot of information very quickly.

Is any 40-year-old Ensign to us like, Khan is to Starfleet? Oh, interesting. So the question is basically like, are they, are they such brilliant geniuses? Like would they be such brilliant geniuses compared to us that they would be like Con is to a Starfleet? Oh, interesting. I wonder to what extent Starfleet Academy is learning to learn in the way that, you know, so often school

can be right now. Like, you learn tricks with how to do math formulas that are like shortcuts, and there are some like reading techniques where you can like just look at a page of text and memorize it. Get the gushed out of it. Yeah, and I wonder how much of Starfleet Academy just might be that. Knowing that information's going to be coming at you so fast. Right.

Because you don't actually have to know that much. You have to know how to get at what you need to know to solve a given problem. And to share that thing that you know with people who can make decisions about how to address it. Yeah, they live in the hyper-googleized future, right? Where like, you don't need to remember anyone's phone number to tap your communicator badge and be in immediate contact with them. Yeah.

Like the number of facts you need to retain walking around is actually pretty low, but your ability to get to facts quickly has to be very high. I was just thinking about how we never saw the scene of O'Brien rigging his phaser and tricorder bomb combo, and how what if that were just always a thing that that would happen if you tapped your communicator and your phaser and your tricorder were next to each other? Like, you have to make very sure when you put them on your belt, that they are on opposite sides of your waist. Otherwise, you go boom.

Fun. Ban our second priority one message is from Josh and is for Carl. And the message goes like this, hey, Carl, 226. It's been a blast working on actual ion drives with you. Here's hoping our little engines make it to the moon. I'm gonna miss always doing bits, literal and figurative, may your bit moments be few and far between. Wow, it sounds like we got a couple of rocket scientists here.

Some kind of brilliant geniuses of science and engineering. I would like to know more about that. Indeed. I went to a warehouse office space in Seattle one time where they were developing a fusion propulsion system for NASA. And it was like one of the coolest things I ever got to do. The guy was like, yeah, this is a fusion rocket engine. No big deal. Yeah, this is my garage. Yeah, but he had like a real NASA grant. He was like a you dub professor.

Fucking nuts. Well, I love a question P1, and I love a P1 from a couple of real life rocket scientists. So that's cool to hear from Carl and Josh. Sure is. If you'd like to leave a P1 of any kind, you can do that by going to MaximumFun.org slash Jembo Tron. It's a hundred bucks for a personal message and a 200 for a promotional message.

And we really appreciate everyone who does that because it helps us cover the costs of making this show. Hey Adam. It's that, Ben. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Yeah, I think I'm going to go outside the show and assign my Shimoda to Andrew Robinson. He's so great in this episode and

the little bit of reading I did about it revealed some reluctance on his part to play Garek in this way. Andrew Robinson was the psycho in the dirty Harry movie. I've changed my mind. I'm going to let her die. Like, that sort of claimed a fame as an actor. And he had thought that he had put that kind of role behind him. It's one of the reasons he enjoyed playing Garek so much.

And so when he got the script initially, he was not that into it, but I think you and I agree after watching his performance, pretty incredible work by Andrew Robinson. And I hope, like the Shimot is about having the most fun. I hope it was at least a little bit of fun for him to do this because I really enjoyed his performance quite a bit. I did too. I wonder as an actor, how much power you have in a situation like that. If you're like a series regular but not in the main cast on a show and they send you a script and say, hey, we're going to need you for these dates. And you really don't want to do that script. Yeah.

They can't force you to do it, right? There's kind of a rocky road to this episode being made. They went through a bunch of script versions and the early ones were not great. And several of the actors came out and said, you know, if we had to do those first couple of drafts, it really would have been a dog of an episode. It really makes you think about how many of those stories an actor has of like the near misses for a beloved character that they somehow found a way to avoid in this way. For every M.P.C.Nore, there is the version of that episode that is potentially very bad and could damage how we feel about a character forever.

Yeah, seriously. Well, I think, yeah, whatever happened behind the scenes to get the script into shape, worked. What about you, Ben? My drink's about it is Nog, and it's for the moment when Garrick gets the drop on him, because Nog has that big crazy phaser rifle, which Garrick takes off of his hands. But Nog still has the hand phaser in his belt, visibly, when that happens. And I just thought he was gonna reach down for it

and drop to the floor and stun Garrick. Like know, like it would have just, it would have been the easiest thing in the world, like a very low risk move. Yeah. And he didn't do it. So Nag is my drunk Shemura. The nag you get in this episode is the brave and the face of death, Nag. But he's never resistant to his situation. And it made me wonder when you see that phaser on his

belt, like if there was a moment that was cut from the episode that went like, I know, Eric and I like Eric, I can't draw my weapon on him even though he's clearly in the sway of this psychotropic drug, you know. You're just you just left to infer that. But yeah, that's an interesting bit. I mean, you could, you may even call it a mistake. Like, I don't, I don't know why they'd leave a phaser on him. I don't know what it is. But he's my drunk tomato. Get that gold press.

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