The Greatest Generation - It’s That Tight (S4E6)

Episode Date: October 26, 2016

Tasha Yar’s estranged sister doesn’t just look like Sarah Conner, she’s the Enterprise’s only hope to help save some abducted crewmen. But her affiliation with the Confederacy has everyone on edge. Did these street gangs get their jewels from Logan’s Run? What Skynyrd songs does this fusion reactor have? What happened to that chip clip that used to be at the craft services table? It’s the episode that marks our formal entrée into 90’s haircast.

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I'm one half of your hosting team, Benjamin R. Harrison. I'm a little less than the other half of the hosting team. I'm Adam Prenica. And that little sliver that we need to fill in, it is beer. Ice cold beer, we recommend it. Sure do. All right, is that the end of that bit? Yeah. I was going to suggest we open some cards. I feel like we haven't done it in a long time. We've talked about cards and awful lot. Ben, before we do that, this might end up going nowhere,

but I was just recently tagged on Facebook on a comment thread from the official Star Trek Facebook page. Oh, really? That is a contest for entry to win a seven day six night vacation aboard the sold out 50th anniversary Star Trek themed cruise ship featuring William Shatner himself. The the Bill Shatner. The Shat. How much would you love to be on this Star Trek cruise, Ben?

We never get invited to shit. I know. In our defense, we never put ourselves out there to be invited to stuff. But I feel like when you're the highest rated Star Trek podcast out there in the world, our invitations must have gotten lost in the mail. Highest rated Star Trek podcast in the world as far as we can tell. Yeah. Not a lot of the data is public, but I mean, if you just base it on iTunes reviews, I think

we're well in the lead, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Like, when are we going to start to get these phone calls about starting our comic book line and whatnot? Look, I would go on the Star Trek cruise. I don't need a ocean-facing cabin. I'll face the engine room, I don't care.

Just a lot of our listeners are gonna really think you're trying to slide into the Big Rod pocket, man. Oh shit, that's right. I didn't even consider the affiliation with Big Rod on this. I bet Big Rod is all over that boat. Oh man. It's like being trapped in a space capsule with Big Rod. It's like being trapped in a space rod. And you know that the crime rate on those ships is crazy, right? Like people get pushed over the edge all the time.

Oh, I know. Then would you continue the show if I were pushed over board on the Star Trek cruise? My big rod himself. Would you- Itself, I don't even know. He's big rod actually a person. I think it is. Would you pivot the show into like a true crime podcast about my death?

Yeah, this time on the greatest generation, Adam was dead. Yeah, something like that. I mean, I just promised you to avenge me, okay? I would have been you. Please, I'd been me. All right, let's open some cards really quick and then we'll get into the episode. Are you going to open some too? Yeah, I will.

And while we grab for these cards, I want to tell you that Ben, you may or may not know this. I am the proud owner of 30 signed Biff Jager cards. What? Because true to my word a couple episodes ago, I decided to buy every Biff Jager everywhere. So there were four on eBay when this idea came up. You're saying that you've been going on and they're coming, their new ones are being added all the time. I am inflating the bubble and as fast as I can buy them, more yaggers keep popping up. Wow. It's a real wacky yaggers situation out there on He bet. How much of your money have you spent at this point on the uh...

Ben, my wife was like to this show. I don't know if I could say that. This is a certain reminds me of that Dan Acroid in any Murphy film. Would they try to corner the Biffie-Ager market? The Biffie-Ager trading market. At the end, right? Is that, are you talking about Brewster's millions where in order to inherit all the money he has to spend, like a million dollars as fast as possible? Ha-ha-ha-ha.

I guess maybe. I haven't quite spent a million dollars been, and that's all I can say about it. Okay. I think we could do some fun stuff with these Yagers, though. We can some of the prices. We're gonna have to sell a lot of t-shirts on our upcoming tour. Well, some of these eager costs. Guess what, Bannett, greatest gen con 2017. The eager is the only accepted currency. And you're gonna be the richest man in the room. It's true, really gonna be throwing my

acres around. People have been buying scarves and are gonna be really disappointed to learn that. It's gonna take 30 scarves to buy one yagur, I'm telling you. Um, so, I have not one time yet gotten duplicates as far as I know. I think every single card in this packet is a duplicate if one I already have. Oh no. I think I have exactly the opposite circumstance. All of my cards I haven't seen before. Wow.

That's wild. Yeah, that happened. I don't know. Yeah, man. I've got a measure of a man which I already had. Got all good things which I already had. I've got peak performance which I already had. I've got Incent Row which I already had, and I've got Datalore which I already had.

What a dud! These fucking portfolio prints are really starting to disappoint me! Not even a signed card, not even a foil-stamped card. Man, if I'd gotten doubled up Joanna Miles' I would, my mood would be very different right now. Double. You know what you could have called that then? Hmm, double Miles.

Ugh. I just want to turn the camera and say to the Capital one company. We're ready to sell your credit cards. We're ready to sell anything. We have no shame at all. Apparently not. Ben, the five cards I have are lonely among us.

The enemy, which was the fun Jordy episode where he falls down a well. The final mission, which we haven't gotten to yet, but we will in a couple episodes, I think. That's the one, uh, Wesley Queen of the Desert. Oh, I like that episode. Yeah, we've got Man of the People, and then we've got the perfect mate. Feels like all of our episodes could have been called that.

Ha, ha, ha. What's the perfect mate? Is that the one where the lady is like, been genetically bred to be a princess? Yeah, she's an empathic... Metamorphon... Metamorphon... Yeah, it's a...

What's her face? Oh, yeah. The real legulady with the... She's from Golden Eye, right? Yeah, and... and rounders? Oh, yeah, that was her name. Famka Jansen? Oh, yeah. Thamka.

Yeah. She is a... She's very attractive. She's a... ridiculously good-looking person. Yeah. Yeah. Looking forward to that one, but that is...

pretty far down the road. Is it really? Yeah. It's card 121. And... The final mission is card 83 if that gives you any indication of where we are In the series right now final mission being a couple episodes from now. Yeah, so

Perfect mate 40 episodes from now Ben. Damn 40 I'll just have to watch X-Men or something in the meantime. Get your fancage and fix. Get that fancafix. Well, Ben, what do you say we get out of this Marin intro and into something a little more comfortable? It's season 4, episode 6, Legacy.

I've noticed you've been kind of like going going low on the name of the episodes. Yeah. Going going down to the bottom of your register. The bottom of my register is still very very high. It's like a it's like a kitty pool in terms of depth. It's endearing though. You think of every star piece of it's an art piece of the truth, trying to make truth, or a historical truth, or a personal truth. This episode begins with the Enterprise bailing out of an archaeology mission to change over to a rescue mission. And you know shit serious when Picard bailes out of some archaeology. Mm-hmm. Well, it really, really begins with bailing out of a poker game to do a magic trick, right? That's right. I skipped ahead.

So, Data has gotten to a point where he and Riker are about even with chips and Troy and War for sitting there chipp-less. You two have successfully divided the evening between you. Why is suspect conspiracy. And Riker bets data that he's gonna be able to find his card in the deck. Riker attempts to David blame him. Right.

And Riker has like one of these magic tricks, these card tricks that is like, barely, would be barely passable at like summer camp. It's not even close to magic. There's no slight of hand involved. It's just like a math trick essentially. And it's an easy trick to do. Anybody can read how to do this trick on the internet in 30 seconds and know how it works.

Or just listen to data explain how it works right after he does it. Save yourself some work and just keep watching the episode. But they belabor the shit out of this moment. It also breaks the cardinal rule of a card trick on camera, which is they put a bunch of cuts in that could obscure like some funny business with the cards, you know? Like, it's a bad trick that doesn't need cuts anyways.

Yeah, they're really giving Riker all the help he can get. Yeah, pen and teller would just not put up with this shit. Bullshit. And then they would start telling you about why Gary Johnson should be the next president. Right, Chris should have done some real serious David Blaining. Like that trick where he stabs his hand through an ice pick. That would have been amazing.

Yeah, we're like, or where he finds a card in an orange that Harrison Ford already had at his house. Get the fuck out of my house. I love David Plane. It's a lot of fun. I love, I'm sure we have a bunch of vocal ticks. We've been told about our vocal ticks, but my favorite thing of his is here's the move. Like that's his thing.

Like I'll be doing a trick and he's like explaining it to the person who's watching. He's like, all right, and here's the move. And then here's what we do. Like, he makes you complicit in the trick in a really fun way. Right. It's probably part of the whole scheme of misdirection.

I don't know much about magic. Yeah. I'm not trying to act. I don't know much about magic. Yeah. I'm not trying to act like I'm some kind of magic expert. I would dispute that personally. I'm no Ricky J. Is that the guy's name? It is. The greatest living magician.

I would argue. You gotta hear that guy's interview on Bullseye. So good. His documentary is one of the best. You got to watch that documentary, Pat. Yeah. So this is a distress signal that is coming from a freighter called the Arcos.

And it's a... The Arcos runs on second-tier gasoline. It's just real cheap garbagey cargo ship gasoline. Jeep and garbagey and yet your dad is willing to drive 45 minutes to go get some, thus totally nullifying the cost savings of having bought gas at a lower price. Why does the arcos make you walk all the way across the thing to insert your debit card into the machine? Right, just put it right there at the pump. There's one machine at the arcos cargo ship, and it's right in the middle. I don't get it.

I would say the worst thing about the arcos is that they use the bathroom. The key is attached to a tire iron, so you have to leg this heavy chunk of metal around. Then you get to the bathroom, and it's like the fact that there is a lock on the door is not protecting this bathroom from anything. It's like the bathroom from the movie Desperado. It's rough. You don't want to be stationed on the freighter archives. Just put it that way. Furthermore, you don't want to be on the the freighter archives. Just put it that way. Furthermore, you don't want to be on the archives

when it's engine fails around Turkana 4, which is what happened to it in this episode, because Turkana 4 is the terrifying nightmare planet that Tasha Yarr came from. Yeah, it's basically like snakepliscan world. Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally. They're real freaked out when they realize that the crew have ejected and taken an escape

pod down to the surface. They're like, oh, hopefully the escape pod is still in orbit. Nope. Went directly to the colony. Fuck. Fuck. And so we get a little bit of exposition like the government of Turkana for Collapsed and you know we've heard Tasha Yara talk about this a bit that there are like rape gangs and

drugs and stuff. It's like It's sort of like the opposite of what you would think of as a Federation colony. Is it a, is it theoretically a Federation colony or is it independent? They called it an Earth colony. An Earth colony. And I don't quite get the distinction other than I guess if you are an Earth colony, you are made up of humans, but you are not a member of the Federation, I would guess. But they don't really go too deep onto that.

Here's how I would describe it. You know how like Russia is just like, you can't believe how fucked up it is, if you stay in age? That's sort of Turkana for in the 24th century. It's like, guys, we have come a long way. Can you fucking knock it off with the craziness? And they can't, can't do it. Wow, you're anti-Russian sentiments on this show,

and pretty strong. I'm just saying like modern-day Russian government. Okay. I don't know that I quite get the sense of what the government is. And I sort of took it as the collapse of Tracanaphore's settlements was the collapse of that government, and there was none. Yeah, but then into the power vacuum stepped these kind of warlord-type groups. Yeah. And they're called the cadres.

And there's one called the alliance, and the other one is called the Southern Confederacy or something like that. And, you know, they're just... The union of Confederacy. Great. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what they're called. So yeah, they have a pretty funny discussion where they're like, well, the last

federation shift to make contact with this world was like six years ago, and they were told if anybody from the federation beamed down, they would be instantly killed. And the card turns to right here and it goes, number one, ready Ready and away team. There isn't even a beat that passes before Riker designs in the mission. Which is so great.

We get a great scene here where Riker's away team gets on the Transporter pad with like dust busters out for Harambe. Like they're ready to transport down with glocks out. It's pretty great. Yeah. to transport down with glocks out. It's pretty great. Yeah, and right before they do that, wharf attempts a weird kind of paternalistic sexism on the doctor, he doesn't want to bring her because he's worried she might get raped.

And she's like, I can handle myself, wharf, and Riker's explains that the people that they're going to help may need urgent medical care and the doctor is going to be an important member of the team despite the fact that she is a lady. It's a weird moment because like, you can't say the words Traconna for without saying rape gang within the next 30 seconds. And sure

is shit, they say it on the bridge. And they need to underscore it a little bit with the scene with Beverly. Like we get it guys. I don't know, I just thought that was strange, a strange choice. They are really underscoring this part. And yet when we're down on the surface, there is not even a suggestion of sexual violence down there at all. No, yeah. Yeah, it's more like the warriors, where it's like kind of hooligan street gang stuff,

not rape gangs. No. But yeah, so they get up on the pad and they've all got their dust busters whipped out and they get in kind of like karate pose with their dust busters all facing out so that when they beam down, anything that is converging on them will be shootable. It sounds silly, but they should always do this.

And they almost never do. Even when they beamed over to the board ship, I don't think they did this. Right. They should have. And when they beamed down to ginger Jesus' house, just to be safe, you know? Yeah.

Why not? It should be standard beaming procedure. What a... What if his dick valet is right behind you, you know? You don't want that. No, not at all. Okay. There's a lot of fun just kind of like start what do starfleet officers do in a dangerous place stuff in this episode?

And one thing is that they run like there's more running in this episode than the Edo episode. And they're always you know it's kind of like sewers and tunnels and stuff. It's a really fun set. It's real cyberpunky. Yeah, yeah. There's definitely a lot of William Gibson in the set design. Yeah, yeah. And they're running around and they run into a bunch of armed people who have like Logan's run jewels in their chest. And the jewels are going

are going ape and they're like like identify yourselves who the fuck are you will come with us and and so like not long before they these guys back as if they work with the Confederacy on on a project and and his suggestion is why don't you give us a whole bunch of phasers you're not gonna miss him. Yeah it'll be great it's he gets into some real Oliver Norse shit here. We should describe Hain a little bit. Hain reminds me like there's a it feels like this episode has a bunch of retread some visual retread from that planet where Riker dresses up in the In the clothing to go fuck that Sarah Connor woman and Hain is a big part of it like he's got the leather biker jacket He's got the slick back hair. He has a deep crew neck

Which is an interesting choice like yeah, he's got like a boat neck under a brown leather jacket. One of the first instances of a deep crew on the show. I think that I can remember. I think this is the episode, perhaps more than any, we have yet watched at him, that transitions us from 80s haircast to 90s haircast. Yeah. There is some full-blown 90s hair in this episode.

And this is the first guy that, this is the first peak of it. But baby, we're just getting started. He just, he breaks the dam of hair gel. Yeah, he's got a lot of feathering going on. Every piece of hair is going in a very particular direction. This Hain guy, the Confederacy that he represents is our like, it's a really big fan

of the Paul Mitchell hair product line. Yeah, I see pencil artwork of his haircut and Barbershop Windows all over my neighborhood. Yeah. Well anyways, Picard is pretty quick to poopoo the arms for hostage's idea. And it was never a great idea in the first place because Hain can't even claim to have access to the hostages. He was just saying, like, give me a bunch of guns and I'll go get them for you.

So they reject that. And so Hain facetimes up and he's like, hey, get a load of this. And he steps aside and somebody with even more 90s hair steps steps on the camera. And this is Tashiyaar's sister Ishariyar, or Sochi claims. And so, Hane explains that because they were friends of Tasha's up there on the enterprise, she can... Ashara is going to serve as like the liaison between the Confederacy and the Enterprise. And they're going to see if they can't help them get these

hostages back from the Union. And so everybody's like a little bit weirded out at first, but they're like, all right, well, you know, it's the best plan we have so far. Like we don't really know shit about this planet and we can't find these crewmen. Like the only way we're going to be able to do it is by finding their escape pod, which I guess has some special access to scanning for their vital signs. And until we can do that, we're pretty much so else. So they beam Ishara on board and data is there to meet her. And it's a pretty like intense meeting

because you know, we know like, data's got some history with her sister, but he's emotionless and so. And also, Ishara hates her sister. Like she comes up, like she pronounces that she and Tasha were sisters, but as soon as she beams on board, she's like a hater, we were estranged as she beams on board, she's like, a hater, we were estranged.

She's a coward. She's terrible. She's a total coward. She left. She left her kind of for. Tasha Y'all is a mess. Believe me, she is a mess. She has no stamina.

She left. Everything she touches is a disaster. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's real weird. Ishara, if somebody in the room likes Tasha, she talks tons of shit. And if somebody in the room is not super keen on Tasha, she really talks Tasha up.

It's a real weird character play play where she moves in the opposite direction of people's sensitivities, which is an interesting writing, at the very least. She's going to be able to help them because she knows her way around this nightmare city. A lot of it is underground, or there, you know, there's lots of like electronic shit that makes it hard to beam in and out of certain places, but she does know where the escape pod is being kept. Unfortunately we don't, but where the escape pod is. Level 3c section 547. And so they're able to launch a mission where they all beam down and get the escape pod up and running again

so they can use its sensors. But there's always combat when they beam down. And this episode has real fun, like high speed face or combat that's shot from like a relatively wide angle compared to what we usually get. You know, like you can see like four or five people on camera that's shot from a relatively wide angle compared to what we usually get. You can see four or five people on camera firing at each other and people flying all over the place. And that's a lot of fun.

I guess the deal with the Confederacy and the Union is that they all have these jewels on their chest that are proximity sensors and they light up and start making noise when their enemies are close so if you're like like a shara a Confederate and a union person is running around nearby Your jewel will your cleavage jewel will start to light up and and so you know to get out of there or whatever. But it's always like setting off an alarm and bringing the cavalry in. And so they're always kind of like getting in

and getting out just to the nick of time. Yeah. And she gets shot on their way out on this episode. And she is narrowly saved from being killed by one of the baddies by Riker. Is this the mission they go on before they do the DNA test? Because what I thought was weird about it.

Well the DNA test takes like some time. I think they test her before they go down but they don't know the answer till they get back. That part was completely baffling to me. They're like, all right, we gotta assemble this away team to go down and do this mission. We're gonna stick a shara on the mission. We're gonna give her a weapon,

but the DNA test isn't done yet. So we aren't completely sure we can trust her. Yeah. That seems wildly irresponsible to me. Yeah, I mean, you would think that they would at least give her a phaser that was limited to stun setting or something like that. Like they give her child scissors? Yeah, but yeah, they extend her the benefit of the doubt

pretty early and pretty often. And she comes back from this mission, you know, slumped in Riker's arms and they take her to Six Bay and Captain Picard comes around and has a chat with her and I guess basically like says like while you were pretty brave down there and I guess we can trust you in fact and while you're here in Six Bay, why don't you slip out of those dirty rebel clothes and get into a bright blue cat suit? Shall we? Why don't you slip into something wildly uncomfortable?

This cat suit is incredible. I actually I watch this episode by myself and I'm typically pretty quiet when when I watch anything by myself but I audibly gasped at this moment and I was like oh my god it is it is whatever the female equivalent to moose nuck is, is definitely happening here been. Yeah, this is a bit of costuming that definitely pre-visages 7 of 9. Yeah. It's like maximally sexy.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to concentrate on the scenes that she's in from here on out. Yeah. I had to move my notepad over myself for the rest. Yeah, you didn't want to stand up in front of class and do any math problems on the board in the state you were in. Right. So they spend a lot of time doing some character development and part of it is her shooting the breeze of data, remembering YAR, and part of it is part of it is like, you know, kind of coming up, they figured out where the crewmen are,

but it's not like the easiest thing in the world to get to them where they are. And so they also come up with a way to remove her sensor light. And I guess it's like hardwired in and it's rigged a blow if anybody tries to take it out, but the explosive is sensitive to air so they can trap some inert gas around it and in a force field and remove it that way. And so they announce that they're gonna get this out of her and she goes and finds a quiet room by herself and facetimes down to the surface that...

Good point. It's working. Her evil plan is working. One of the great one sentence throws to commercials. Yeah, and like perplexing that they're letting this woman that there's still not a hundred percent sure they can trust communicate unmonetored with the leader of her

warrior tribe. Yeah, even a couple episodes ago, they stood in the room with their backs turned for that amount of privacy. They can't even do that. Strange. Yeah. The plan is the crewmen that they're trying to save are in a part of the facility that they can't beam into, but there's a nearby room that they can use a phaser to tunnel through the

bedrock, because the whole city is underground. They can tunnel through the bedrock to be able to beam into this nearby room. They'll mount their raid from there. They'll go get the guys and they'll be out. So there's like a big long action sequence at the end of this episode where they do this, and then Ishara sort of gets separated from the group, and they start finding crumpled up bodies all over the place where she was. And they're like, at this point, she's expressed interest in not going back to the city when the whole mission is over. She's like saying, oh, maybe I'll follow in my sister's footsteps and you know, try to apply to Starfleet Academy and make something of myself. And they're like, well,

that's really honorable and it's a big decision.... at a certain point in the in the raid on the planet data finds her rigging the fusion reactor of the union to blow and uh... the data follows the body breadcrumbs to her position she finds her at this giant uh... purple jukebox that is powering the entire union. She explains that. She puts in a dollar to play her song first. It's Skinnered Simple Man. That's exactly what I was going to say.

And she explains that once a one simple man finishes playing The power will go out and 3,000 troops from the Confederacy will storm in and take out the Union for once and for all and Data is like well that'll make the Federation complicit in this active war and we don't get down like that girl and This is you know once again, I'm finding characters that I had extended trust to dropping whoppers on me. And not in doing her, right? So she raises her dustbuster at him

and they have like a showdown and she actually fires at data and he's able to dodge it and fires back knocking her out. He and Riker run up to her. They check out the Dust Buster. Is she doing it? Disabling the detection system so her forces could attack. Set to kill.

Set to kill, Robots. This is Rob system so our forces could attack. Set to kill. Set to kill robots. This is a robo kill. Yeah, the special robo kill setting. It turns on microwaves all around the room. It's the popcorn setting on the nearest microwave. It's a ray that would make data feel true love for one moment and then he would a single tear would form in his eye and he would short circuit. Yeah that'd be it. What a way to go out. Hmm. Data does that bend at the waist that he pulls off dodging the room. What was that

planet that he was on with the mining laser? Yeah. I forget the name of the point. He's pretty great at dodging. It would be really hard to hit him with a phaser, I think. It's a little bit matricsy, the way he dodges it. Yeah. Like, they don't do bullet time, but it would have looked cool if they had. Yeah, and I feel like a shower has got to be a pretty good shot.

Yeah, she's been fracking rape gangs her whole life probably. Yeah. They take a look at her hair. We haven't really even talked about her hair man. Oh my god. Her hair looks like it was cut with like those giant lawn scissors that you use on bushes. It is just one straight line across the back.

Yeah. It's like maybe two inches off the top of our shoulders, and the straightness of the cut is really something else. It's not even weird as much as it's impressive. It just seems really hard to pull off. And it's also, well, here's what's weird about it, is, she's got some bangs that they have teased into an insane amount of volume and then they have slipped back the rest of her hair so that there's like no volume on the actual long part.

So it kind of looks like she has a crazy mullet. The cat suit is so stunning though, that it's sort of hard to give her hair any consideration at all. I always, I keep wondering like with John Doe, like how do the civilian characters on this show pick out the thing that they're gonna to wear from the replicator? It's like most sexually revealing thing possible basically is the reflexive choice. There's the canonical in-show decision that you're describing, but there's also the practical

production decision. Like, how complicit are you in the costume design if you're an actress at this point? Like, do you have a... I am imagining you don't have a prove or deny power over your wardrobe. And so when this thing is produced from the truck, I, like, I would love to interview this actress and just ask her one question.

Like, what was your reaction when you found this in your trailer? And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? Like, they took a tiny, tiny hanger out of the closet with this tiny, tiny piece of clothing on it. They took a chip clip out of craft services. Yeah, not even for the full size bag of Doritos, the one for the like, for the like quick grab. I feel like this dress collapsed down into like scrunchy size when it wasn't put on.

It's that tight. I am a cute, super boy. Block faces are my present. I am a cute, super boy. There are all lights. The episode ends and they've said their goodbyes to the dicks down on the planet. Data walks Asshara back to the transportor room and very emotionally bids her goodbye. She really wants to have a cathartic connection with him, and he goes full Android on her.

He's like, I don't have any feeling toward you at all. Yeah, yeah. There's definitely a firewall there. Yeah. It's something I kind of envy in data in that moment, because I feel like what she did would have really hurt a lot of the characters on this show. He's able to just kind of like chalk it up to a shitty learning experience. And the button on the episode is him kind of talking through that with Riker.

Like, I guess it affected him more than he was willing to show in that moment. But yeah, like Rikers saying like, yeah, like sometimes when you extend trust, it is betrayed. And you can't really control for that. Rikers' council is so great here. He's like, that's the cost of an intimate friendship or relationship of any kind. He's like, you have to put yourself out there and risk being hurt because that's the currency of being close to someone.

Yeah. Oh, I should also say that they take the cat suit back when they send her back out of the planet. Yeah. I don't know if anyone could wear that afterwards. I think it's sort of like trying on a swimsuit in a department store. Yeah. I don't think- Got to buy it.

Yeah, definitely. I think that's in her bag. That's definitely in her bag. They're like, look, we don't like you anymore and we're gonna beam you back, but we have no use for this costume. Did you like this episode Ben? I did. I liked the silliness of the conflict. I liked it. I don't know. It just it wasn't insulting and stupid. It was just fun and stupid, I think. Yeah, I agree.

And the button really worked for me. Like that conversation between Riker and Data at the end, I thought was perhaps more than anything else undid some of the harm they did in the cold open with the magic trick. How about yourself? I can't help but play a little like fantasy football with the episode a little bit because the episode worked because the conflict was between data and a shara.

But all I wanted before watching the episode was Riker and her to hook up and for that to be the tension. But then we talked about the, the, the, the ribald sex comedy where data and riker are both trying to bed here, right? Yeah, and like that would have been the wrong decision. I think mostly because we see it all the time. Like, yeah.

I feel like you get the riker sexual attention most of the time. This is for a more interesting episode when it's data tension, especially because data slept with their sister. Right. And they don't, I don't think they really talk about that, right?

He doesn't let that slide to her. Like the more I thought about it, and the more I thought about how it could have been, the more satisfied I was with how it is. Yeah. I, uh, yeah, there were all kinds of tenses in that in that statement. Well, I think that's imperanias, but I'm sure somebody will write in to correct

us on our. Yeah. Ben, what's that Adam? There's a I believe there's a priority one message coming in over the subspace frequency. There may or may not be, but we're about to find out. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement on it. supplement on it. supplement on it.

Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship? Adam, we have the message on this panel here in our dumb fake spaceship. I've just got a shoebox of Christmas lights that I plugged in. Looks like I'm getting something from this. Yeah, we got something from Megan. This for Kirsten or Kirsten, depending. One of the 10 different pronunciations of that name that we know to be true.

Remarkable. It's sort of like charade. Like Kirsten, Kirsten is the charade of first names, isn't it? Yeah, I had a friend named Kirsten growing up, so I choose to believe it's Kirsten. Well, I'm not going to pick a side so I don't offend the recipient of our priority one message. I will be the switzerland of this P1. Yeah, we'll have to find some of this Kirsten Kirsten wargold after the

dust settles. Megan says, I see your yeager and raise you a subspace message. Oh dang, do you think there was a yeager exchanged? Well, I know that to be untrue because I own all the yeagers. So it sounds like Megan's a liar. Well, you own all the yeagers after a certain date. We don't know when this happened. That's true. Could have happened before we started this show.

Uh, yeah, the Megan could be in possession of Calvinist Yeagers. Yeah. Who are predestined for her. Right. Before we ever made the announcement. Reliving the Star Trek era of our Nerd Days via this podcast has been a delight. Thank you for always being the Deanna to my Beverly. See you at Greatest Gen Con 2017 in Victorville.

You bring him Zadi, I'll bring Q and Law, and we'll do some dramatic readings. Happy birthday, Kindred Spirit. Wow, fun! You know, enough time has passed where I can be fairly honest with you Ben. I'm ready to go back to Victorville. The bad memories are gone. I only remember the good. You missed that buffalo wild wings down by the off ramp.

You know the next time I go to Victorville I'll be packing my own underwear. They seem like two cool ladies. Yeah, they really do. That one's the Diana and one's the Beverly. They speak in pod, which is fun. Yeah. A lot of them. Thanks for sending that message, Megan, and Happy Birthday, Kirsten and or Kirsten.

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Drunk Shimoda! I sure did. Drunk Shimoda is the part of the show where we shine our critical spotlight on either a scene, a character, or an actor who may be having the most fun or doing something weird and incongruent, or something that just stuck out to us, we do this every episode in honor of one of our favorite bit parts ever on the show Jim Shimoda from episode two. So my Shimoda and this is just a is the is the cat kidnapped a crewman that they they show up on FaceTime briefly because it's like it's like a ransom video and it's like just shy of him holding up that day's paper.

It's like, it couldn't be a more generic ransom video. And whoever they got to play that part, just like, just really like did it, did it, a solid in my opinion. Yeah, he's like, he's doing everything besides hold up the newspaper. Yeah, it was good. He's doing everything besides hold up the newspaper. Yeah, it was good.

My Shimoda is a scene-based Shimoda. So Ishara has just been put into the blue catsuit. She's on the bridge at the science station in the back with data. They're looking over the schematic for the station down below. And you get a two-shot, I think, with Ishara and Data Talking, and Warflox by in the background, and just stares at Ishara in the blue cat suit.

And it made me laugh as much as her appearance on screen for the first time in the cat suit. I can't tell if his intentions as a character are lustful or distrustful of her whole deal. And I don't know if Dorn as an actor could pull off which was which. Like he just sort of walks by and gives her ijammies and then turns back to his station it was so strange because he kind of nods at her doesn't he? yeah it was so weird compared to the rest of the tone around her character and the rest of the episode it was never revisited. You aren't meant to understand really what his feelings

are about Yisara at all. No. And for that to be it was just a little bit ambiguous to me. Like, what was that about? Was it because he was into her or because he didn't trust her? I think because of her clothing, it was because she was into her, but I think we'll never know.

Yeah, distracting clothing. Distracting scene. It took me out of whatever data any Sharo were talking about, that's for sure. Yeah, we'll never know what conversation they had at that moment. And it's impossible to play it back. No, yeah, you can't do it. Ben, what do we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season 4, episode 7, reunion.

When Picard is chosen to mediate a Klingon power struggle, Warfkenfronts, they Klingon, who disgraced him. Do you remember this episode, Adam? Only generally in the collection of Klingon episodes that Picard and Warfare involved in is Kurn in this one? I don't know if Kurn is. I mean, Durace is the one that disgraced him, right? Yeah, I see the moment with the crazy eyes.

No, that's Galron. Oh, right. That's the chancellor. Yeah. Is he in this one? God, I hope so. I love those crazy eyes. I know. That guy's the chancellor. Yeah. Is he in this one? God, I hope so. I love those crazy eyes. I know. That guy's the funnest. He really gives Kerna run for his money in the crazy eye department. Yeah, I ain't worth for that matter. It's true. A lot of eye acting.

I remember nothing outside of that. So I'm excited to see it. For sure. Does Picard get to go into the Barrio again? Yeah, well he's got that knife now so you might as well. Yeah. If you own a knife and you've been stabbed with it, do you leave your own blood on it? Oh like you don't clean it off because you're like look what I got. That might be kind of badass, right? I could see that being kind of badass. Do you think you kept the hammock? You know, this will be great if I decide to go camping or something. Are you talking about the hammock that the slick back kid set up in this apartment?

Yeah. The kid who stabbed him with his own knife. Yeah. I mean, we see the tapestry that's on the back of the seat. I wonder if we ever see that hammock again. It's a good question. Seems like a pretty cool hammock. Yeah. You know, no one cares about that, Ben. Nobody. Those who have stuck around to the bitter end of this episode might be interested in knowing that there are ways that you can support this show and its production. One of the biggest is by going to Maximum Fund, Diodoric Slash, Donate, and supporting the

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