The Greatest Generation - Kayakodone (DS9 S6E18)

Episode Date: June 15, 2020

When Dr. Bashir tries to duck out for a medical conference, Starfleet Internal Affairs probably saves his life by screwing up his plans. But when the hard nosed investigator seems to focus all the scrutiny on the doctor, he’ll need more than a bellyful of gagh to fight back. Does Chief O’Brien need a sponsor in KA? When do you start feeling the Kafka? Is Sloan just concerned with plot holes in old episodes? It’s the one where we pass the time by playing a little Solitaire. Donate to the Friends of DeSoto for Justice Fund Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation. Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark Materia  Follow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen! Facebook group | Subreddit | Wiki Sign up for our mailing list!

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in the mail from our friend our friend Aram Creaton from Federation Brewing out of Oakland. We've met I believe we've met Aaron before. He's come through the line and given us some of his delicious beers before. Yeah, and he had a priority one message pretty recently on the show. That's the main way to get our attention. Yeah, he sent us each a big box of beer. And I didn't know beer came in boxes, but there were cans inside the box. And I actually was texting with our buddy,

Sirus Farovar, who liked Federation brewing is a Oakland person. I'm from the Oakland city. He sent me a news article about how a lot of Bay Area breweries are having to adapt to the pandemic by pivoting to Canning exclusively and actually have a dear friend who works at a brewery in Oregon, Boneyard Brewery, that she was furloughed for a while because they were kind of a keg-based operation and now they are canning as well and so she's back to work but um But yeah, like the the canning thing is like is how small breweries are Trying to survive this thing. So if you're a if you're a beer

Enthusiast try and find a try and find a small local brewer that you can support like Federation Brewing, because they really need it. I don't predict that pivot to canning is going to go like pivot to video did for you and me. I think this is gonna be a much more positive outcome. Yeah, I have a couple of the offerings of Federation Brewing here in front of me, and I'm gonna see how they taste poured into my Drunk Shroom Hoda bar and grill commemorative

pint glass. Hey, Ben. Inside the boxes was a sheet of tasting notes. Did you get that? I did get that, yeah. Okay. So maybe you could tell me what beer you're drinking and then I could read with the tasting notes are and then we could hear what you think.

What I'm pouring right now is the fully functional anniversary paleo. You are fully functional, aren't you? Of course, but. How fully? Well, according to my notes, your band, you should be getting aromas of pear, pineapple, and fresh cut grass. Strong, grapefruit, and pine resin flavors.

How's that taste? This is great. I really like it. It's a, I mean, those are, those are strong flavors. You just listed off? This is great. I really like it. I mean, those are those are strong flavors. You just listed off and I think that you get them all, but it's not overwhelming or in any way. I'm looking at the beer in the glass that you have there and it looks it looks dark and red. Yeah, it's got a it's got a bit of redness to it. It's not super dark. Yeah. Yeah.

Arum was kind enough to, before sending us a bunch of beers, ask us what type of beers that we liked. And that's so considerate because most brew masters are proud of their hobby, dark IPAs in particular. Yeah. And as a light beer man over here, I definitely appreciated that he asked because he sent us different boxes of beers.

Yeah, what do you got over there, buddy? What I've got is a pint can of behind you, blonde ale. Well, right behind you. Which is great. Like, I love the names of these beers because they're all, they're all Star Trek related in their way. Super fun. This one has a tasting note with

lightly sweet, multi aromas, pale golden color, soft, multi sweetness, low bitterness, and a smooth medium light body. Oh, Ben, you know, if you know anything about me, you know that smooth body is anything about me, you know that that smooth body, is what I'm all about. This is great. This is this is what you and I have on occasion called a

porch beer. Yeah. A light and crushable. This is this is great. This is the perfect warm weather brew dog, if you ask me. And the only downside to it is that it comes in a canned two-tall for our for our greatest gen, Koozie. Doesn't go up all the way. Yeti does make a tall boy format of their Koozie. So maybe we should invest in a second Koozie. Wow. Yeah. Pretty to us. Alright, that's fair. I really like it. Yeah, well, thank you Arum for sending this stuff in. This is super cool. And it's only put a slight amount of strain on my marriage to have loaded an entire shelf in our fridge up with beer. Yeah, that didn't go over well at my house, hold you there. So we're in the same boat there.

at my house, hold you there. So we're in the same boat there. Adam, do you wanna get into the episode we came to talk about today? Sure, DuPan. It's a serious one. It's Deep Space Nine, Season Six, Episode 18, Inquisition. Didn't expect that.

No. Do you realize how it kind of all this seems? No, of course you don't. This episode starts with Bashir kind of working late, trying to, he's doing that thing before you go out of town of trying to get a lot done so that your coworkers aren't left holding the bag while you're gone. That means, you know, given lots of iPads to the nurses that work in the infirmary. We find this out because Odo comes in and is he's basically there to razz the doctor about the idea of going to a medical conference.

Doctors always have their conferences in places that are nice to go to, which I have found to be true. There's a brief part of my career where I did a little videography for an organization that put on continuing education conferences for physicians, specifically physicians that worked on the issue of irritable bowel syndrome. Oh, wow. And I went to like big conference hotels in San Diego and Las Vegas for those jobs.

What are they serving at the buffet at the IBS conference, I wonder? Just saltines? I think that they gave the crew different stuff than they gave the physicians. But the one thing I remember that really sticks out to me about the buffet at one of them was there was like a little setup in the back where the crew could get some food. And Latinx hotel worker was putting the stuff out and was putting out something that was labeled ceviche.

And what it looked like to me was cooked shrimp in like paste picanti salsa, like just like jar salsa dumped over cooked shrimp. That's really gonna get things moving. And I asked the guy was like, is this is this ceviche any good? And he was like, no, moving. And I asked the guy, I was like, is this a Vichet any good? And he was like, no, I don't like it. And I was like, good looking out, dude.

Thank you for being real with me. You love that kind of honesty. Yeah. But you clocked it. You clocked it from across the banquet room. I saw it for what it was. There's like a new leader in the clubhouse of fancy places to visit on Star Trek and it's Kasperia Prime and that's where this conference is going to be.

There are very few problems with their weather generator there. It sounds like they keep that thing under lock and key the way they should. Rice, I should take note. Not quite as many Federation turncodes over there. Right. But the chief. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular.

Walks in in his kayaking get up with a sore shoulder at him. It's another chief O'Brien kayaking injury. Chief of the Rapids. Miles Edward O'Brien. I love it. It's like the river calls to me. Was this the same Wetsuit that he had in TNG or did they get him a new wetsuit? It's a different wetsuit I love how Dr. Bashir manually sets the dislocated shoulder This is hundreds of years into the future and the way to relocate a shoulder

is still to jerk on it. Yeah, I mean, he does get a hyposprae afterwards, but the deal is that this is gonna be hurt for a while. And it kind of makes it seem like the chief has like a bit of a kayaking problem because he was told before not to get back in those rapids until his arm was healed up and he did it anyways. It's like when something, when a compulsion becomes

something that is affecting your relationships and your work, it's time to admit that you have a problem. And I think admitting the problem is probably the first step of K.A. I mean, Dr. Bishir has prescribed a version of kayaking with none of the downsides. But unfortunately, it just doesn't give chief O'Brien the same high. Yeah.

He doesn't, he doesn't want to go on kayakodone. Right. Yeah. He doesn't want to stand in that line. He doesn't want to pop the kayakodone out of the little paper cup. There's some shame involved, you know. But that's more of a social issue, right? Like, we shouldn't shame people that have this disease. I thought that Bashir was wrapping up worked

so he could get on a shuttle directly, but instead what he does is he goes back to his quarters, finishes up his packing there and then goes to sleep. The idea being that he needs to get to bed, to wake up early, to hop on the shuttle, to head to the conference. But sheer follows a rule that I live by,

which is no work travel before 10 a.m. So what getting up early to catch a flight for Bashir means is a seven a.m. alarm. Very humane. I also prescribed to the travel rule of pack the day before and not the morning of. Trying to do, stress yourself out. He's got to mind the size of a planet, Adam. He can pack the day of. He's fine. He is super tired when he wakes up. Tired enough that he says out loud to himself

that he's going to need a lot of coffee on this particular morning and gets radioed up to ops, right? He's not able to complete his pack. All right, I guess he does complete his pack, but he can't head straight to the shuttle for his trip. Alexander Siddick is doing act tired for a lot of this episode. And I think it's crucial to remember that. I think this is a challenge to maintain the fatigue throughout.

When you come in on Monday and you're not feeling real well, is anyone ever say to you sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays? When he gets up to Ops, it's a pretty grim mood, I would say. Not a lot of sunny, chipper faces among the senior staff. Kiris is still being mean to everyone there. Like that part of the last episode is consistent. She's still got a major chip on her shoulder about all the stuff she found out about her mom. Right, but this is a thing that happens

in the workplace from time to time. The mood changes because we've brought in consultants. What would you say? You do here. The consultants are internal investigations. The captain that the captain comes out with another captain ranked guy deputy director Sloan. And we see that he has four pips that also have an underline. Right. That means he's got the performance model, Pips. That's only an outranked by a captain with Pips that are bold and italic. Yeah.

If you've got strike through Pips, it means you are a captain to Soto. True indeed. It's great. The layout of Ops is such that you can see Cisco inside. Are we sure that Captain DeSoto doesn't have winged things, Pips? Oh, yeah. That would make sense. They're like a firework, firework, firework, firework, firework.

Yeah. I love how Ops is set up to where you can see inside Captain Cisco's office. You can see him having this conversation with Sloan. And then when he emerges, he drops the bomb. It's kind of that police captain thing where there's like Venetian blinds, but Cisco never does the thing where he like turns the little thing to close the blinds. That's, yeah, that big one. They can always see up in there.

But Sloan has some bad news, which is that there is a leak on Dewe Space Nine. Cool and leak, we're gonna cool and leak in the instant, cool I get to know. Somebody among the senior staff is giving information to the Dominion as far as Starfleet intelligence can tell. And he is there to get to the bottom of who that is.

And they're procedures for this. And they're pretty, they're pretty draconian. Every senior staff member is being isolated, sent to quarters, and very little toilet paper will be a lot of to each one of them. Another example of Deep Space Nine's prescience. Ha, ha, ha, ha. They all get kind of like frog marched off,

like under phaser point by by Sloan's goons who are, you know, like Sloan isn't a is in a command uniform, but everybody with him is a is a security person. Poor Bashir gets like publicly humiliated by Sloan in this scene because he doesn't even need to ask if if his trip to his convert has been canceled. But don't worry, we've already informed Starfleet Medical that you won't be attending your conference.

Oh, that's very considerate of you. I just loved that hanging over Bishir. I thought Alexander Siddick did a great job of playing a guy who's, you know, like this is a bummer, but I know that I'm not guilty. So I'm thinking about how this affects me personally. Right. Yeah. And, yeah, he really gets badly shamed by a slone.

Gold to cotton, the cup, gold to cotton. So after the theme, we cut to Bashir pacing in his quarters, clearly racked with urine with draws because his replicator isn't working. Ben. Yeah, and he didn't bring a stock home. He figured he would be able to get urine from presumably the in-flight toilet. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like anything else, a thing always tastes better when someone else makes it. Yeah, yeah. Right. And inside his own quarters, he's just stuck with his own brew. Well, everyone likes their own brand, don't they?

Then at what point did you realize this was an episode at Bashir, like in a frame of mind kind of way? Because to me, this was the scene. I, yeah, it hit me very early on that, that this was all a game at him. And I wonder if as we recap this episode, we might be able to talk about why that is. Yeah, I remember seeing this episode, and I remember William Sadler's Sloan very well as like a very scary character, but I did not remember that Sloan was introduced in a Bashira

soad and this scene reminded me that that's what we were in for. I think the scene is so great because he's pacing and he's trying to get himself some breakfast. How about it Skonzmo, but Jam Redleaf tea? Please. But also, you know, he knocks a pan off of his desk and it rolls under the couch and like him feeling around under the couch is, it's just establishes like a,

a lot of work is being done to establish where certain objects are in the room so that we will see that the room has been metal-ddled with later. That's got to be the greatest challenge of a 40 something minute episode is like you must establish place continuity for things in such a way that all that also doesn't give away how important place continuity is. But there's like there's both both like the gumball thing of like, oh fuck, what is he gonna touch

when he reaches his hand under this couch? But also when the security person walks in and sees him doing something weird like this, they like, I dropped a pen like the, you, you want to explain it away for him? Like you want to like, you wish you could tell her why he was reaching under the couch so that she wouldn't rat him out about something. And I think that's such effective filmmaking.

Like he feels so vulnerable in that moment. This is the second episode that Michael Dorn has directed. And I think it's a little too early to tell what about it makes it his style, but I found it very competently directed throughout, almost to the extent that like it didn't feel different to me in a notable way visually. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's so interesting because like early Freak's episodes had such a distinct visual language from other TNG episodes

that like without even seeing the credit, you could often spot one. And I don't think that that's how Michael Dorn approaches directing. It's interesting to me that so many other cast members got to direct TNG, but not Michael Dorn. He got to direct DS9 episodes. I wonder if we just decided to do it when he got to deep space nine. Cause I mean, based on our conversation with Lafayette and it sounded like that was something that was kind of on offer.

If and if you were interested, all you had to do is ask, but who knows? you were interested, all you had to do was ask, but who knows? The degree to which Bashir circumstances are serious, I think, is made clear when he meets up with Sloan, and it is revealed that Sloan is wearing an action vest for the interview. I immediately was like, how physical is this interrogation going to get when you see a starfleet action vest, I think, I think you know things are going to get pretty heavy. Well, and we just feel so off balance, right? Because, like, nothing is going according to plan, like, the walk to this meeting, they get rushed by by people with rifles running down the promenade.

And it's like, if there's, like like a senior staff member leaking information to the dominion What the fuck would people with rifles need to be doing running around in the promenade? Like that doesn't make like the two things don't seem related and like I think the episode relies on you to do that math And just be like what is even happening man? We have an understanding at least a basic understanding that there are competent people, competent and quotes working for Chief O'Brien on the station, but like, who do we know works for Dr. Bashir

in a medical capacity, the Steve Sanders' mom from 90210 and that's it? Yeah. They really need an EMH on there that's it. Yeah. They really need an EMH on there, on the station. Yeah, we're like at Nersogawa. Right. That would be nice. Right.

This first meeting between Sloan and Bashir is almost too chill. Just a couple of perfunctory questions. Actually, when I first came in here, I half suspected that I would be interrogated under a very bright light. Not this time. They both share a laugh about how dangerous it is to go to and from a conference anytime you're on this show. Yeah, it's great. Sloan confesses that he had aspirations to become a doctor that he did not follow.

And Bishir is quite open with him. He's doing the yes, of course, you know that I'm genetically engineered. That's a thing that you should know about me. He is not hiding behind anything. He doesn't have anything to hide. He has no guilt on his conscience. He's an unashamed X-Men. Wow, nicely done my friend. Sloan is

kind enough to take his breakfast order at the end of this thing after Bashir tells him that he's having trouble with his replicator. Sloan's like, of course you are. We turn them all off. We want you making sharpened tooth brushes out of that thing. We need to make sure you guys don't go anywhere, sharpened toothbrushes out of that thing. We need to make sure you guys don't go anywhere, but I'll be happy to take your breakfast order. Boji like. And it's a specific order.

I'll put it scones, I'm gonna put jam and some red leaf tea. Sounds really good right now. I could go for some scones, some jelly and some tea. As long as the scone is dry and crumbly, that's what a scone is. You don't want a scone that's like a muffin. No, yeah, you don't want it to be cakey. You might have a looser definition of scone than I do.

I don't think it's really open to interpretation, though. When Bishu gets back to his room, he notices that it's been very lightly tossed. An almost imperceptible amount of tossing is effing to his room. Like, try to imagine the police broke into a white person's home and tossed it. Like, that's the amount of tossing is effing to his room. Like try to imagine the police broke into a white person's home and tossed it. Like that's the amount of tossing that happened here. But things always been snooping around my quarters. O'Brien has blown in a secret facetime to be sure this is very surprising. This doesn't even seem possible, but O'Brien's an expert on station systems.

He just grilled me for over two hours. You're looking for about 145 degrees, and we are right on the money. He really changes the temperature on this post-interrogation feeling, because a moment before, where like, well, this isn't going to be so bad, the scones are on the way. And there were just some light tossing of the room, but but O'Brien comes on the screen and he's like, dude, I was hardcore interrogated for two hours. And all the questions were about you. The arrival of God, not scones is also very unsettling,

very threatening. Yeah. If Sloan is sending a message, message received. Yeah, but she says it sending a message, message received. Yeah, but she says it's a bit early to be relishing in my body. Yeah, O'Brien is credibly scared here. Yeah, I thought this was a good moment. It's freaky and it's like, O'Brien gets like fuzzed out, right? The call loses connection and suddenly Bashir is getting dragged back

to Sloan's office. Right. We get to know this same security person doing this several times. She's great. Yeah, she's really good at making us hate her guts because it's arbitrary, right? Like it's, like she does not give a fuck

what happens to Bashir. Like if he's innocent and gets exonerated for whatever he's being investigated for, she does not, she's not gonna like worry about how he thinks of her, you know? The moment he gets dragged in for a second interrogation is the moment where we start feeling the Kafka, right? Right. This time, the security guard stayed inside, and I thought that was such a subtle difference

between this interrogation session and the one before. You can see them stationed inside the door with their weapons this time in a way that it's just not the same. Right? And Sloan's tone is so different here. He is angrier and more, you know, like, he cuts Bashir off. You have a problem with that.

He phrases things in ways that Bashir really disagrees with like he says, like, when you were spending some time with the Dominion and Bashir is like, I didn't spend time with the Dominion. I was abducted by them and put it up prison. That's not like a visit to grandma's house asshole. A William Sadler's chewing up the scenery here the way a Willem DeFoe would.

And I mean that as like the highest compliment. I think there's definite Willem DeFoe vibes to Sadler's performance throughout this episode. It's really fun. And he's kind of treating him like a Manchurian candidate, like a maybe you are a bad guy and don't even know it. Yeah, and what if you didn't know it

and I'm telling you that you should know it? If saying I'm a Dominion spy and don't even know it. What's it gonna take to activate you? Well, it's a past the time by playing a little solitaire. I think that there's like an interesting crossroads here story-wise because this takes place in a universe where that's actually plausible. Like we've seen characters that were sleeper agents and didn't know it.

Like Jordy. Yeah. And I kind of think there's another interesting story to be told of Bishir going like, oh fuck, what if I am? Shit. like how, like what do we do about this? I don't want to betray the federation. Like this is me, Dr. Bashir talking right now. If a post hypnotic suggestion has been implanted in me that we can unimplant, let's do it.

What do we have to do? Dr. I am trying to help you. Like that's a pretty cool start check call to adventure, think that uh you know that's not the that's not the road that they travel in this episode but uh but I liked thinking about it. You think you're smarter than rest of Estonia? The next thing you're going to tell me is that I do not prefer the delicious taste of urine which is absurd. Who would ever say something like that about me? There are two things that strain credulity. One, that I could ever be a sleeper agent and two, that I would not

enjoy drinking human urine. Education, you're clinging on. You want to do things the hard way? Fine. It's like an equal and opposing force, though, right? Because as hard as Sloan pushes into the idea that Bashir is a sleeper agent, the harder Bashir pushes back, the idea of engrammatic dissociation is on the table. The idea that you can push back as much as you want, Bashir, but it's not going to change the fact that you cannot prove that you're not a sleeper agent. Right.

You've been unaccounted for for such a long time. You know, you were in that Dominion prison camp for five weeks. This is a when did you start beating your wife type of situation here, right? Yeah. Yeah. And he doesn't have an alibi for what happened when he was in solitary confinement on a fucking rock controlled by the Jemperd are. It's crazy how we get many scenes in a row where we drill deeper into the stories that Bishir has been involved with. with and having them retold by someone like Sloan in succession really makes you add them all up and in totality or like, you know, I could kind of believe this. I mean, it's sort of Sloan going

like, hey, a lot of these Bashir centric episodes have had a lot of plot holes in them. What do you think about that? Yeah, yeah. It's I think the strength of this episode isn't that Sloan makes such leaps in in jumping to the conclusions that he does with the situations that Bashir has been in. I think the strength of the episode is how short a distance that is has been in. I think the strength of the episode is how short a distance that is. Right. In adding all of this up, it's really nicely done. This is such a subtle tip to what happens at the end of the episode too. This is the moment where you realize that this year really is guilty until proven innocent. Yeah. In a way that is very unfetteration like. Right. He starts talking about like maybe I should have a lawyer here and they're like,

that is not happening, buddy. Yeah. We're not getting you a lawyer. We are giving you a perp walk across the promenade. The perp walk across the promenade where he's got shackles on his wrists. Yeah. Sishko is asking, like, is this really necessary? For some reason, Quark is there saying, we're all pulling for you, little buddy. Just a relief for him to see anyone else and shackles perp walked across the problem. Yeah. Yeah.

Odo is not running station security also. So this episode never gives us an opportunity to feel like, OK, well, at least somebody that we trust is involved in this part of the decision-making process. It heightens the paranoia when you have no allies around the way that Bashir is made to feel Yeah. That is until Cisco shows up because once Bichiris thrown into the brig, Cisco goes and meets him using his, he basically

pulls rank in order to do it. He big dogs slow into respecting his pips and then kicks the, he kicks Sloan the hell out of the brig so they can talk. Do I make myself clear? I think that this is such an interesting moment because you don't notice that Cisco isn't having that conversation with Sloan alone. We'll see each other tomorrow. In the meantime, enjoy your conversation.

Crucially, this is all from Bashir's perspective. Nothing at a certain point in the episode, nothing can happen that Bashir doesn't witness himself, but it also feels like Cisco big dog Sloan, big dogs, Sloan's little deputy, often another scene somehow. So you might not have done the math on what's going on yet, and I think that that's really well executed.

What I love about how things continue in this episode is that, you know, you're given a hint that, okay, finally, like Cisco's on the scene, we're gonna be okay. Like, if for no other reason, then he gets to sit on the interrogations. And what's great is we cross cut to the next interrogation. And Cisco has not helped the paranoia

of the situation at all. If anything, this scene is worse for this year because of the evidence that that Sloan provides. Right, like Cisco can put up defenses, like this is a lot of circumstantial evidence. Do you have anything more like tangible than that, but there's so much of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a mountain and it would be difficult for the best lawyer to defend against. And when you're just Captain Cisco of Deep Space Nine, it's

and not lawyer Picard. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting to think about what lawyer Picard. Right, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting to think about what lawyer Picard would be doing in a moment like this, because the process of jurisprudence being completely set aside so that Sloan can railroad Bashir into a conviction, feels like that train has built up a huge head of steam at this point,

and they can both feel it. I think lawyer Picard had the advantage because evidence regarding data during the measure of a man episode, they didn't talk about all the times that data stole the ship or came close to murdering people in a corridor. They didn't use specific evidence from episodes and measure of a man in a way that,

like episodes from this season are used against Dr. Bashir here. It makes the challenge so much greater for anyone defending him. But also crucially, this isn't Cisco. Yeah. So like, I think that that's, that's so interesting is that like you think it is,

but it's not and that's why he's not great at this because he's made not to be. And I think that that would maybe stand out a little bit more with Picard because he would be so much more outraged and strident at this point. Yeah. The line must be drawn here. There's far no farther. I mean, the evidence is damning. It's not, I mean, even if the only episodic evidence was when Bishir was more concerned about curing the white addiction, than destroying Gem Hedara on that planet he crashed on, or just giving the unqualified X-Men access to war strategy materials.

Right. Even just one instance of that would be bad, but in totality, really bad look. And you have to admit, the lies that Bashir told about his life and his upbringing, like everything adds up to a pretty damning conclusion here at this moment in time. Damn, that's pretty tough. And Be sure is locked back to security. He's gonna be like transferred to another star base to undergo further questioning. And Cisco is like, yeah,

like I feel really bad about how this went down. Sorry, basically. But let's put that behind us for now. It's a scene where Bashir and Cisco are talking to each other through the force field in the lockup where Bashir realizes maybe Cisco has lost faith in me. He's asking for that reassurance of like, tell me at least you believe me. Yeah. He's asking for that reassurance of like tell me, tell me at least you believe me.

And Cisco, I think Cisco is like, wow, I'm just dog tired after today. Anyways, I'll catch up with you tomorrow, buddy. I've got dinner on the stove, so I'm going to go check on that. Yeah, that gumbo, you do not want to over cook gumbo. Yeah. Take it for me. The next morning, Sloan's plan is to take Bashir to starbase 53, which is the Ru Repente of star bases. There's a maximum security cell waiting for him there. They don't have an electronic frontier. Now, it's just nothing but under bite dogs everywhere.

Yeah. And I think it's maybe not even the morning, but like late at night, like he's like falling asleep and then woken up just suddenly. It's a little hard to tell. And I think that that's also intentional, but they're about to take him when he gets a surprise beamed out with a, critically, a Cardassian transporter being. Right, right.

I wondered if you're getting transported, if you can tell what kind of beam it is. That's an awesome question actually. The Cardassian beam always feels a little more crackly to me. Yeah, yeah, it feels a little, it's like a one in a million chance that you'll get turned into cat food with the Federation and like a one in 10,000 with the Cardassian. Yeah, yeah, that's a fun detail. He gets beamed right into Wei Yun's office.

Yeah, and like, and Sloan is like, he's getting beamed away. No, stop him. And then Wei Yun has him. It's getting beamed away. No, stop him. And then why you and has him. It's like out of the frying pan into the fire. It's weird because the security people's reaction to don't let him get away is to aim their phasor rifles at the at the beaming away, but she here has that supposed to stop him. We know we know from experience that the phaser beam will bounce right off that? Yeah.

Yeah, but into the office of Wayoon, he is beamed a Wayoon who is really happy to see this year. Welcome home. This was a moment where I wrote down why would Wayoon use a Cardassian transporter? And I think this is styled as a Cardassian ship. And I thought it was interesting, an interesting and specific choice that that would be the case. Yeah, I think so too. Really well done. I mean, there's Cardassian security people in his office as well. Cardassian and Geminar. And Wei-Yun is there to talk to Bashir about, hey, you've been a great

Wei Yun is there to talk to Bashir about, hey, you've been a great mentoring candidate type sleeper agent for us. And we really appreciate all you've done. And they're talking about like, you know, Bashir being broken and turned to the Dominion cause in the camp. And it's kind of that kind of like dovetailing with the idea that the unoptimistic X-Men came up with when they determined that the Federation's war against the dominion was unwinnable, that Bashir flip sides not out of any like betrayal of the Federation, but just to save the most lives possible, which

is like a flattering idea that he might think of himself as having done this for explicitly humanitarian reasons. Why the very name is racist. The logic of this holds together neatly. Right. Because the viewer question, the reality of this moment, if billions die, think of all the urine that wouldn't be produced, I'm merely trying to prevent the massive spillage of unnecessary urine. But this is like when he starts to get suspicious, why would you both be trying to convince me at the same lie? He calls way you on the fact that like how the fuck are you serving me scones with butter and jam and tea?

How the fuck are you trying to convince me of all of the same shit, slowness trying to convince me of like what is going on here, man. What do we know about sense memory? Like, like, uh, smell and taste are some of the most powerful things, right? He gets away for these scones. Really takes him back. He suspicious immediately. Why? Why are these same scones a part of my story? Starting to be some cracks in the facade that he is being presented with. This is the moment where where he full on turns into Riker from frame of mind. He's like What do you mean? What do you mean you can't serve me as something other than scones? Can't do the contraction

me as something other than scones. Can't do the contraction. Hehehehe. Shut up, wayune, as in close your mouth and stop talking. Let me help you. No! He comes on the idea that maybe Sloan and wayune are working together. Like his mind goes in a different direction than I thought it would, but it's plausible, right? That he would think like, oh, maybe like,

maybe Sloan is the turncoat and wayune is doing as wayune does and I'm being victimized by some evil plot that they all have. I love how this scene is interrupted. Like, like it's so fun to be in a space battle where you can't see the view screen, right? Yeah, it's a bit like the one little ship episode, right? Where we get the bangers and then we get the boarding party without much to give us context for what's happening. Yeah.

Because the some bangers get dropped, way you and runs away, and then Kira and Worf be month into this room with rifles and kill the guard and rescue Bashir. What are you doing now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and the results of your mission. Like when that episode where they're seeking to rescue Cisco and they keep beaming up non-Syscos, when Wurf and Kira rescue Bashir here, the feeling is all wrong. Like they're not relieved to have the him and their custody. They're not like celebrating the rescue in any way that you would see at any other time.

And it's kind of like a weird random pair for who would, who would the, of course, the boarding team of WarFenCira just doesn't track, you know. Right. I mean, it's ultimately paid off on the bridge of the little D when you really get the feeling for the situation, but it is really teased here in a subtle way. Yeah. On the bridge, he basically gets the same treatment from his trusted compatriots that he got from Wei-Hoon and Sloan before that, which is like, we know you're dirty

doctor, you don't fool us. I've been called the dirty doctor before at Starfleet Medical School when those gallons of urine samples disappeared. They turned up in my dormitory. If you were like, this is a scene that directly calls back that day after interrogation when Cisco was like, the interrogation does not go well, I'm surprised. Like that was the moment when you started to see cracks in Cisco's confidence. And here, the conclusion is fully apparent.

Cisco confronts Bishir over how bad it looks that they had to rescue him from way you ship. Right. It's great. He is basically throwing Bishir off off the bridge like take this piece of shit out of my sight. And Bashir does that thing where he goes around the bridge like, Shirley Dex, you believe me? What about you, O'Brien? Yeah. I'm not gonna do it. Everyone thinks I'm gonna do without. And this is when the Sh charade kind of falls apart finally.

Yeah, because Bashir grabs O'Brien's bum kayaking shoulder. And O'Brien does not flinch except for to like pull away from Bashir. Bashir says to O'Brien, isn't that that shoulder that you hurt playing? What is a fake sport from the future? Spring ball, is that your spring ball shoulder? And O'Brien is like, yep, spring ball shoulder. It's better now though, thanks to you. You're the best.

And then Pissier drops his coffee cup and slow motion. It's the ground and shatters. He flips this on Chief O'Brien's head. He says, you didn't hurt it during playing that fake made up sport of spring ball. You've heard it doing the real thing And then we're in the hollow suite. Computer and Sharad. So we're in this big hollow room and it's Sloan in a leather uniform with a couple of leather uniformed guys. A couple of leather men.

Yeah, not a breathable fabric is leather. Yeah, this is the introduction of the idea of section 31. Right. It's super fun to experience this after having watched Discovery before, you know? Yeah, yeah, this is the, you know, the first section 31 thing ever, but your introduction to section 31 was through contemporary trek. The eye trauma trek. Right. That's how I got to know it. Yeah. But these uniforms are I think pretty close to what they have in disco, right?

That's so too. Yeah. This is the dirty tricks arm of Starfleet that operates autonomously so that the Federation can disavow the awful shit that they do to protect the Federation's interests. And it always fucking happens like this too. Like you get to hear the backstory for Section 31. It all sounds nefarious and bad. But then Sloan piv like, uh, you like this leather jacket? Looks like Michael Corus, doesn't it? Yeah. But, but it's not. It's confederated products. You can, everything in this hollow suite is confederated products. Be sure. From the toilet paper to the candles, to the ham. It's of a higher quality and a lower price

than what you might buy in the store. And Bishir is just like incredulous. This is a recruiting pitch. This whole thing has been a recruiting pitch. Yeah. He's like, you held up well under some intense pressure, Mr. Eur, you might be just our kind. It was both a, like they were actually

eliminating Bashir as a potential dominion sleeper agent and also setting him up for potentially coming to work for them. So if I had been a dominion agent what would have happened to me? We wouldn't be standing here having this conversation. And that is some wild shit. It's a wild line to ride, right? Like you want to hire someone who loves pizza.

Loves pizza enough to make you pizza, but not to eat all the pizzas that you make at your restaurant. Right. It's crazy. The pitch does not go well, but sheer is too honorable of a man to work for an organization like this. And so he politely declines being jumped into the gang that is section 31. Well, if you got to go, then I understand. It's funny, like the end of the conversation he has with Sloan is like, you know, your secret agency sounds awful. Like, what's to stop me from telling everyone I know about it? And Sloan's like, fine, I mean, it wouldn't bother me one way or the other. Like, you're free to tell whoever you want. And then we basically smash cut to Bashir telling everyone he can about section 31. Like they've got them a McLaughlin group

in Cisco's office and Kira and Odo and Cisco are in there hearing them out. And none of them in the room are thinking that this is a good thing. The existence of section 31. No. And Bashir is like, yeah, you, you're going to be really proud of me, guys. I turned them down. I'm back in business. I'm ready to be your doctor again. Let's, let's get back to work. And there's some creepy stuff, right?

Like that they looked for transporter traces. Yeah. To explain how bishier was removed from the station over the amount of time. He was and they can't find anything, which means section 30 wine might have different and better technology than the rest of the federation. They also discovered that Bashir was like, probably only asleep for like an hour

so that when he woke up thinking it was seven a.m. in this in this in this holodeck, he was like, that was a deception. Right. I think this holodeck set might be this holodeck set from Voyager. Oh, interesting. But, uh, but it also looks like way more fancy and technologically advanced than the TNG holodex or the DS9 holodex.

It looks good, uh, but it does not look good for Bashir because he can't just wiggle out of this job offer as easily as he thought. New. Cisco orders Bashir to accept Sloan's offer. Should it be offered again? Yeah. Which on the one hand is like, what are the chances that the offer gets like re-given? I don't know.

But on the other hand, does Cisco have that kind of authority over another officer? Yeah, I don't know. That's amazing. It's gulp to theme song. Oh, I wanna talk about this last shot though, Ben, because we move in on Bashir's face before the credits after he's given this order and after everyone leaves the meeting. And there is very little happening

on Sidig's face here, but there is something happening. And I think in the last second of this shot, there is a little bit, there's like a micro expression of hell yeah. Do you think that that's there? Is that just a projection by me? Like that he is, that he is suddenly making like a fist bump? I think it's in his eyes and not his, and not the rest of his face, the idea of being flattered and excited by the prospect of joining this team. Is it hell yeah or is it like hell yeah? The second one. Yeah maybe maybe that's there.

I believe it. Oh yeah. Did you like this episode, Ben? You really want to do this here. Now, okay, okay, let's do it. Would you say of the two feelings about this episode, or would the answer to, did you like it? Be, hell yeah, or hell yeah. Ah, I would say it would be hell yeah. I did like this episode.

That's good. I think it's like Todd and Tens, and I think I was on to it a little earlier than it wanted me to be. Like I think I saw where it was going before it showed its cards, but it was still fun to watch after that. Like that doesn't ruin it. Like knowing who Tyler Duron was didn't mess the movie up for me. How about yourself, Adam?

I like Star Trek episodes that try to fuck with my mind. I like future imperfect. I like frame of mind. I like when science fiction generally tries to bend reality a little bit, and this feels like while not being specifically a kind of mind shattering. What's great about this episode is that you don't see the mind shatter. It's a suggestion that a mind might be shattered. Right. Questioning whether or not it is. I just think that's my favorite kind, one of my favorite kinds of Star Trek apps.

So in that way, I like this new spin on an old favorite kind of episode. I thought it was good and I thought it was good to get a bishier centric episode. That doesn't seem to be a frequent thing, but it was nice. You know, you get the resume read back at Bashir of all the adventures that he's had over the last couple of seasons. It adds up to a lot of shit. He's been through a lot. And in a way that, like until you read the record back, I'm not sure I would have been

as full-throated in saying how much Bashir has been through. I would have been like, yeah, he's almost a minor character at this point, but that's not true at all. Yeah, that's well put. I will drink to that, my friend. Hell yeah. Do you wanna see if we have any priority or messages? Hell yeah.

Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. I need a supplement. A supplement? A supplement. A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. At it, we have a couple of priority one messages here. The first one is of a personal nature. It's from Jillian and it's Satam. Goes like this. Tommy Walnuts. Happy first Father's Day to. Goes like this. Tommy Walnuts.

Happy first Father's Day to our family Picard. Your kindness and character are the perfect fit for raising our lucky kid into a smart caring person with a delightful nerdy sense of humor. We love and appreciate you for your patience, support and all those early mornings. There's nobody I'd rather be figuring this out with than you. Sounds like Tom's pretty great.

Sounds like Tom's also liable to roll around in the mud with a family member during an argument. So I'd keep my dirt dry around the household there, Julian. Do you think Tom has wings in his hair? Can only hope. Tell me Walnuts is a great nickname. No one's ever gonna call me Adam Walnuts, which doesn't roll off the tongue. Someone could call you Benny Walnuts.

I feel like names that end in Y are good for the Walnut appendage, right? Nobody ever has called me Benny, though. I get it. I get it. I've called you Benny. My wife calls me Benny. Hmm. Like Italian for good.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's the same. Which is how my sausage gets described around these parts. This is a good gaba-goob, innit? Yeah, pretty much out it goes. But it sounds weird when you say it, so don't. I have no terms of enduroment for you, Ben. Our second priority one message is from Coco No No, and it's for diet water.

Message goes like this, Father's Day Even though I grew up wanting to marry Picard what my theory presupposes is Maybe you're cooler. Whoa Thanks for being a better husband, father, relative to Checks notes almost everyone depicted in Star Trek Bean says she loves you cake says Baba Baba in Star Trek. Hehehehe. Bean says she loves you. Kakes says, ba ba ba ba. While brandishing a marker, here's who are continuing adventures. Super twist. Wow.

A couple of Picard themed father's day messages. How did that happen? In the first message, it used Picard as like a point on the horizon, a goal. Our family's Picard. The second message is like Picard is crap compared to Dietwater. Picard can get fuck, Dietwater is the king. If they coordinated this, it was really brutal. But I think it's just a coincidence.

So too. And I think that, you know, Picard could be garbage to the wrong person and could be the ideal to the right person. Yeah. So it depends on whether or not you were at Wolf359 or not. Very enough. Well, if you'd like to leave a priority one message or compare someone to Picard, you had to maximumfund.org slash jembo-tron. It's a hundred bucks for a personal message and a hundred for a commercial message. We really appreciate it because it helps us cover the costs of making the program. I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that that cool press like, I got that cool press like, I got that cool press post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their

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because it is a very subtle bit of physicality by Alexander Siddick. It is a time-code Shimoda, though. Okay. So I am going to need you to scrub the episode to about 420. It's the scene where Sloan is dropping the you're not going to that conference bomb on on Bashir and and will dismiss the crew. They're going to their quarters. I want

you to look at Bashir's hands. Okay. On his way out the at the room as he's escorted. Pulling up the episode. So Sloan is told them the bad news. He is excused the crew. And Bashir has a little bit of a subtle message to send back to Sloan about how he's feeling. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. By dragging his middle finger across the table, on his way out.

Wow. How did this make it into the show? I think I noticed that when I was watching it and just thought like, like, dragging his finger like, like I'm annoyed that my thing isn't happening now guy, but I didn't do the middle finger math. This is like Frank Thomas giving the middle finger to the guy you took his baseball card picture like this is this is amazing

This is there's a sign-fold episode where somebody does does one of those where they like rub their face with their middle finger Yeah, and it's like just Deniable enough that it made it past the sensors. I Love stuff like this. I love that it is like perfectly. This is, this is an actor making a choice on behalf of his character. And it making perfect sense in the context of the scene. That's a lot of fun. It's great. But what about you? I'm giving my Drunk Shemota 2 Captain Benjamin Sisko in this episode. Just for like the, I think that maybe the funniest part of this episode to me is what a clockwork order it is for Cisco to say next time they ask you're joining. Like, Cisco's order to Bashir at the end of this episode is almost identical to him ordering

Bashir to become friends with Garrick at the beginning of the series in both how inappropriate it is and also like what it is intended to do. Well a couple of good shimotas there been but what we need to find out is what episode we're watching next and in what way we're going to review it. For that, we go to the game of Buttholes World of the Prophets at Gok.bizslashGame. The next episode is season 6, episode 19 in the Pale Moonlight. Cisco attempts to trick the Romulans into declaring war against the Dominion. This is another episode that is often cited as one of the greatest star trick episodes ever made, Adam.

Really? Wow, you know, I have to admit, I almost forgot about the Romulans in the context of Deep Space 9. I'm sorry, Romulans, I forgot you were there. context of deep space nine. I'm sorry, Romulan, I forgot you were there. Well, no one could possibly forget where we're at on the game board bin. We're currently on square 65. There we are. We have a j Gordon Square up ahead, which we could land on. That's, of course, the square where each host must make a piece of artwork representing the episode and share it with the other and post pictures. I'm afraid of hitting that one because the thing I had in mind from the start was like one of those paper plate pasta pieces of artwork and pasta is such a scarce commodity right

now that I wouldn't want to waste any of it on a piece of art. Oh yeah, that would be quite foolish. That would be a very like twilight zone thing to be like starving and looking at some macaroni that you glued to a paper plate and up on your wall. It'd be a classic. Well hopefully we don't hit that. Yeah, hopefully that bleak level of situation doesn't unfold. It's, you definitely don't want to hit the square after that, Ben. Square 69 is the one where we must record a show while performing simultaneous blow jobs on each other. The most dangerous square on the board, I would say.

And it's not even close. There's also a corks bar in range, I believe. Yeah. So I'm going to go ahead and roll this thing. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Keep your fingers crossed, we aren't chugging each other's cocks next week. Oh no!

Shoot! Did I win? Harvey. Oh, yeah. Oh no! Too long! Did I win? Harvey. Oh, I had a my roll to four. Wow, that's great.

Get that dick out. We should have to do the entire episode while eating bites of hot-nose. The people at the mesophonia would never put up with that. As it is, it's a regular old episode, Ben, episode 69. How did we make that a regular old episode? I did a bad job designing the game of buttholes, the will of the prophets. Yeah, we can only blame ourselves. Well, I'm looking forward to next week nonetheless, Adam. And in the meantime, we should direct people to contribute to the production of this program by going to maximumfund.org slash join,

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