The Greatest Generation - Kevin Lives! (VOY S6E14)

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

When a disheveled away team returns from a particularly grueling milk run, there’s no explanation for the nightmares and flashbacks that start plaguing the ship. But by the time they find the ancien...t memorial responsible, real memories of war have traumatized the crew. Would following protocol have avoided this whole situation? Is it ever the right time to ‘well actually‘ a gift? What’s the best thing about NuTrek? It’s the episode that wouldn’t lose its cool at baggage claim.Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pit, pit, guffna! To share your embarrassment tour, rolls on. Yeah, we're going to London next. Yeah. Pretty sure we'll survive it, but not 100% sure. Yeah, get yourself a ticket. It's greatestjentour.com. We are roasting Star Trek 5 this time.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Come on. Come on! What's it going to take to put you in a Star Trek 5 roast today? Ticket still available for Chicago, Minneapolis, Boston, and Brooklyn right after we get home from London. It is a touring crucible for me and Ben, and we're doing it all for the FODs out there. Get yourself a ticket at greatestjentour.com. Right now, greatestjentour.com right now. PrattestGenTour.com.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage. Watch your backdrop. Hello. I'm Captain Captain Brinstein, where the U.S. is for. And Captain Captain Captain Brinstein, where the U.S. is for.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And Captain Captain Captain Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm Mike looks enormous. Oh yeah. Why is that? It's a camera trick. You don't have a bigger mic than me.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Yeah. It sure looks that way. It's making me blush. Yeah, woo boy. Well, we're doing a video code 47 again today So if you're just listening you're really missing out on like at least 10 or 11% more fun that you could be having Yeah, you're following this on YouTube as well. That's an important amount. Yeah. Yeah Sometimes that's the amount that makes the difference right? It's true. Yeah I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47 Yeah, yeah, sometimes that's the amount that makes the difference right? It's true. Yeah I'm receiving a code 47 verify It is code 47 sir starkly emergency frequency Captions eyes only
Starting point is 00:01:55 We got a bunch of stuff in our PO box. I thought it'd start. We have a postcard here Adam about that just a simple postcard. This kind of reminds me of the work of our buddy Aaron Reynolds of F and Birds. It's a crow or some kind of Corvid saying, Kapla. Well, he clearly needs to make Klingon Birds. Yeah, no kidding. As a side project. It goes like this. Ben and Adam, I'm not usually one for unsolicited fan letters, but I couldn't think of better people to send this card to.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I bought it directly from the creator at a craft show in Crosit, Virginia. She was so pleased that there was at least one other person to get it. There are dozens of us. Love the show. Listen, since Ep 1, great job. Both of you, thanks for all the Ben laughs.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Oh, I see, thanks for all the laughs, Ben. Because it's from Ben L in Crozant, Virginia. Let's set this. Crozant, you say? Yeah. Spelled CROWSIT. CROZET. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:03 No dubbio in there. All right. So it's not an all-cro-th-Z-E-T Oh, okay No dubbio in there Alright So it's not an all-cro-themed letter I see But thank you, Ben, for sending that in Hey, that's nice I like getting postcards I like sending postcards
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah Uh, this next one is from Mr. Nicholas C in Los Angeles, California Looks like this may have come from the neighborhood. I used to live in Uh-oh It's all the crap you left behind in your office. All right. Here's a letter Dear Ben and Adam. I know this little item isn't as flashy as the ones you typically get from FOTs But it's heartfelt nonetheless. I saw this vintage button from the wrath of Khan at the Venturi County fair of all places
Starting point is 00:03:45 I saw this vintage button from the wrath of Khan at the Venturi County fair of all places. Instantly, I knew it had to be in your possession, having attended Greatest Jankan back in the day at the bootleg theater in LA. That was a great show. Anyway, now you have the proper chest attire, with Harder and Wontalbons enormous eye-watering pecs that is, to where when you feel you need to say, like, I love anew, or it is very cold in space. By the way, how did he learn all those Klingon Proverbs and Galactic locations, like, Predictions Flames, while Marooned on Settiaffa 5? I didn't see a 23rd century Elmanac
Starting point is 00:04:19 on the Botany Bay Bookshelf. Is this a superior intellect? He doesn't need all those books. Yeah. Yeah. Love the pod. Been listening since the boy wasn't allowed on the bridge. Keep serving up the dick and fart jokes and looking forward to you guys roasting and loving enterprise. Captain Nickard. So here is the gift in question. Wow, that looks great. That is beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:48 It is, yeah, an official vintage 1982, but I think I'll put it on for the rest of the show. What do you say? I like that, yeah. Maybe it'll give you special podcast co-host powers. And then there's a second letter that says, to be read later, offline. Sounds spicy.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh, okay. Moving up in size, this one comes from Starfleet Physical Fitness in St. Peter, Minnesota. I... Was shocked as anyone to learn that that's where Starfleet Physical Fitness' headquarters are. Starfleet Physical Thickness is located in Harry Kim's pants. Can you move?
Starting point is 00:05:30 Very proud. No letter, as far as I can tell. Oh wait, there is. There's like an internal bag here, so I didn't see the letter at first. Oh, that makes me nervous. Be careful over there. Jim Shimoda.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Bro, do you even stack? Wow. Dear Ben and Adam, I run the replicators over at Jim Shimoda. We've been upgrading them lately, banging out some advanced isolinear chips. I wanted to send a few along in recognition of Adam's Peloton rides, and the amount of workout stacks Ben must be doing lifting to run.
Starting point is 00:06:07 There are some from each of the last few months, including the five-year anniversary chip. Unfortunately, the upgrades were based on board technology and the nanoprobes took over my replicator. That accounts for the most recent chip produced. You'll know which one it is. Thanks for all you've done. Without the pod, the Jim Shim motor community wouldn't have come together. Best place on the internet.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Sincerely, chief very petty officer, Jeff Ford. I feel like that would be my rank too. Yeah, no kidding. So we've got a bunch of isolinear chips here got like a kind of cool tie dye effect. Oh that looks great. Isolinear chip similar in like a blue and yellow kind of a murdered out. Isolinear chip here. Those look like they're of great quality. Oh here are the borg's chips. Yep. Stringed literally generalized in their design. Yeah. And then some laser cut wood iselinear chips here. Oh yeah. If you time travel back to the wood era, you can want the wood version.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I'm pretty sure that data made some of his equipment using wood iselinear chips in that episode where he went back to old Timie San Francisco, right? Yeah. Wow, right? Yeah. Wow, those are great. Really cool. Some of the best looking isolated chips I've ever seen. Yeah. Really cool.
Starting point is 00:07:31 The writer mentioned my peloton rides, and I've been getting a lot of invitations to become friends from FODs on the platform. Yeah. And I've been denying every one of them. What? Because I don't know. It feels too close to have a bunch of strangers know when I work out and and all that So for whatever reason I've I've denied every friend request from someone of that. I don't know but
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'll just let everyone know that I mostly ride on Saturday morning in Alex's club bangers ride like I'll ride all of his life Saturday morning in Alex's club, Bangor's ride. Like, I'll ride all of his life rides as much as possible. So if you ever want to ride together, that's how you can find me. And you can find other FODs using the Jim Shimoda hashtag on Peloton. And then the other time you ride is when we have a Coco Nono schedule right before that.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Exactly. Yeah, that's almost my favorite time to ride. Like you know for two months months sometimes that it's coming up and instead you schedule your summertime thing. It's true, yeah. Yeah. That's what I do. Okay, those are my priorities. It's like the bigger package here. This one's from Joseph R. in Fort Worth, Texas. There's a letter. This must be to us. It says Ben and Adam right there. It's a card. It says thank you for shining a light for me in the dark. Very sweet. Dear Ben and Adam,
Starting point is 00:08:54 Peldor Joy from Fort Worth, Texas. I was one of the lucky few able to see the Picard finale on iMacs in Dallas this week. Wow. Big Rod slash daddy paramount gifted each guest with a free drink and branded popcorn bucket. Unsure if y'all would be able to attend an L.A. I nabbed two extra in hopes that they might ease any GoFobo inflicted wounds. Oh GoFobo's the fucking Mickey Mouse company that ran that. Yeah, right. One of the worst vendors for such a thing that there could ever be. I thought that, like for some reason, I thought that that was like some kind of new twist
Starting point is 00:09:34 on FOMO that I was unfamiliar. They should just call their company MO because you're missing out if you want to work with them in order to see anything. I'm sure I speak with a Borg's Lake voice for many in the collective when I say thank you for bringing joy and laughter to all of the friends of DeSoto. In lieu of seeking out some fun popping corn, I wanted to toss a few scarves your way for the next factory trip, Joseph, And Joseph hasn't indeed included a gift card to the Cheesecake Factory.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Fantastic. Which will definitely help us record our next hit Cheesecake Factory podcast, Factory Seconds. Very cool. And has also included these popcorn buckets. These are like still folded up unsullied by previous popcorn Look at that amazing. They look great. Yeah, there's one for you and one for me. I'm really glad you said those. Thank you Yeah, we really really tried to get into yeah
Starting point is 00:10:41 I'm actually reading of the finale and it's true get to go Yeah, it was very disappointing and we both had really bad go fobo over it. Yeah Yep, okay final two packages at him this next one is from Ben P of Silver Springs Maryland and it's to you and me really like the way it's wrapped up letter and it's to you and me. I really like the way it's wrapped up. Letter. Dear Ben and Adam, I've been a max fund member, bought a P1, but it's finally time for me to engage in one of my favorite parasolial relationships
Starting point is 00:11:17 with some stuff. I came a little late to your show, jumping into TGD first, because I was desperate to hear someone else's thoughts on new Star Trek. I've dug what you guys bring from the first few minutes, but it really blew up for me when I discovered the community of fans hanging out on the Drunk Shemou to Discord. There's something about what you guys do that attracts just the best people.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Myself excluded, I kind of suck. Anyways, it went from a podcast I enjoyed to one of the few things keeping me positive while becoming a parent a year into an insane pandemic. I've been wanting to show my appreciation with a code 47 for a while now, but I had no idea what to send as much as I love Trek and it's a lot. I've never really collected many Trek goodies except for a mortifying quantity of tie-in novels. But inspiration struck. For Adam, you'll find it in enclosed trailer reel.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Some time ago, an episode or two, you guys discussed a collection of trailers, and I remembered I had this one just sitting and following me from apartment to apartment to house for 20 years. A buddy in college gave it to me as a gag, and here was a perfect opportunity to pay it forward in a fun way.
Starting point is 00:12:26 For Ben, okay, for Daron. I've thrown in a fun piece of baby clothes. It's 18 months size, so hopefully I have gotten around to shipping this in time, but it will fit. You have, I think that's basically the perfect size for Daron right now. Okay. As a fellow Ben and fellow recent dad, who was honored to have his own son also dubbed around in IP1, I get for the kiddo seem like the only choice. Hope you guys enjoy
Starting point is 00:12:52 the swag. Thanks for giving me so many hours of joy and helping the FOD F-So-D find each other. From BenP, a pit blaster on thedrunkshamotor.com discord. And this is the real 35 millimeter film, Adam. Do you wanna guess what trailer this is for? Before I reveal it to the camera? God, 20 years ago. I don't know, I'm just gonna guess that's a teaser trailer due to its size.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Okay. The actual full length trailers are gonna be a little bit bigger. Yeah. So maybe it's a teaser trailer for Star Trek Generations? It'll be wrong, Adam. Snakes on a plane. For snakes on a plane. Wow, thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Thank you for that. I gotta say, we gotta get this mother fucking teaser on a mother fucking projector. Yeah, yeah. We have quite a nice preview collection that I've always wanted to actually play for real. Oh man, and this is great. This is a little, uh, onesy, kidney style of one of my favorite data moments. That's great.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Star Trek Generations. Fun. That's cute. Can't wait to cover both of those gifts with feces. Ha ha ha ha. Thank you Ben and congrats on becoming a dad. Final package here. It's from Marcus N in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:14:19 There's a box in here on top that says this is packing material, LOL. Mm-hmm. Yeah, boxes make this is packing material, LOL. Mm-hmm. Yeah, boxes make the best packing material, I guess. Go letter. Dear Adam and Ben, it's tough to express how much your podcast has provided a constant happy presence in my life.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Something I could look forward to twice, which has crossed out once every week. Mm-hmm. I've been listening since about episode 10 and I haven't dared miss one. Her voices were a mainstay of my morning walk to lab during grad school and have stayed my favorite morning commute ritual
Starting point is 00:14:53 for several years, post PhD defense. Wow. However, I have noticed you've been precariously zipping through the Trek cosmos without a guide and without proper safety precautions to prevent an accidental slip into celestial fungal purgatory. I haven't closed the following two living tardigrades, lovingly collected from some pond water and desiccated onto a microscope slide.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Please keep these handy in case you need to traverse the Mycelial Network. You will notice under the Protective Cover Sleep is a splotchy white area. This is where the tardigrades are sleeping. Earth tardigrades are unfortunately microscopic, but famously hearty. They are technically dead, while in a state of cryptobiosis, but can spring back to life when given water. I handpicked them under the microscope, moved them to the slide, and allowed them to dry completely.
Starting point is 00:15:48 This ceases most if not all biological processes until such time as they are rehydrated. They potentially can last in this stasis mode for decades. All the best, Marcus! Hey Marcus, thanks for sending us a white smear on a slide with an explanation. Yeah, amazing. So Marcus actually includes their Twitch profile, which has video of them isolating and putting these tardigrades on the slides. So the full video is on youtube.com slash at drnphd So drnphd and the video is February 26, 2023
Starting point is 00:16:33 microscope Sunday with tardigrades and it starts at roughly an hour and 40 minutes into the video So all right a long video sounds like yeah. Let's check these bad boys out. Oh man, they're framed. Whoa. This is incredible. How about that? Wow. It is as he's described.
Starting point is 00:16:54 There is a little white splotch in there. We should go to the YouTube video and make sure that it isn't just a video of a guy coming on a... what do you call this a microscope slide? Yeah, don't send us your comb, okay? It occurs to me that like the way the slide looks is not super dissimilar from the way an isolinear chip looks. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Incredible! You're right about that. Somebody should do that, you know? I feel like people that work in labs would appreciate an isle in your chip themed microscope slide. Yeah. Right? Yeah. That might be very popular.
Starting point is 00:17:35 No, that would sound like a ton. That's not the reason you're stupid at all. Well I'm going to put a little plaque under this it says definitely not come and hang it on my wall. Thank you so much, Mark. It's very cool, Markus. Wow, and thank you to everybody that sent stuff in, and thanks to everybody that watched. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 We really appreciate it. It's fun to do these. It is. If you've got stuff you would like to send to us for some reason, just slide into the DMs on our greatest Trek social media handles, and Bill Tilly is waiting to vet whatever crazy crap you want to get rid of. Think of how many white smudges Bill has seen over the years.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And you let that one through. Let this for job, Bill. Let us receive this one for some reason. So, yeah, this was super fun, but we've got an episode of Star Trek to talk about today, Adam. Sure do, Ben. And it's not nearly as fun as the Code 47 segment we just did. It is very, very serious business on Star Trek Voyager Season 6 episode 14, memorial.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not dreaming about that. So we got the Delta Flyer coming back from a dilithium milk run. Yeah. And on board, you can see how disheveled everyone is. Based almost solely from their hair.
Starting point is 00:19:05 There seems to be a shower pressure problem on board the flyer. And it's made everyone a little impatient with each other. Harry Kim definitely not handling this very well relative to the others I would say. Too much togetherness for you, Harry. I lasted 22 minutes. Also, clean up your fucking dirty plate. Tom Parris.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah. This is close quarters. What are you? Sam Kirk. Yeah. It's a biohazard. Take it easy. Clean your mess.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah it seems like it. They are looking so forward to getting home. And out the window they see the Voyager. Ready to receive them. For some reason when they see the Voyager out the window they see the Voyager, ready to receive them. For some reason, when they see the Voyager out the window, I was like, oh man, something's gonna be fucked up with Voyager. Didn't it seem like that? This doesn't ever usually go that well.
Starting point is 00:19:56 The return from a mission. I think what it did was recall the episode where Picard stuck his hand in the bowl of fruit and grew long fingernails. I was thinking about that a lot. what it did was recall the episode where, you know, Picard stuck his hand in the bowl of fruit and grew long fingernails. I was thinking about that a lot. And I think it was just like seeing the ship out the window puts you, ill at ease,
Starting point is 00:20:13 but they come aboard and they're very happy to be there. Despite how bad he must smell, Tom gets a big smooch from Belana. Yeah, that's nice. Welcome home. Yeah, she go way more often. She likes Belana. Yeah, that's nice. Welcome home. Yeah, she'd go way more often. She likes his smells. Yeah, she nasty.
Starting point is 00:20:29 The doctor makes it clear that it's protocol to do a physical when you're on a two week mission, but everyone turns it down. Yeah. They're too tired for that. After almost losing the doctor in the last episode, people are not like super enthused that they have opportunities to get medical procedures.
Starting point is 00:20:48 They're like, fuck you. Or we want showers. We'll do it tomorrow. You go through this scene thinking it's just a classic doctor ball kicking. But like after you watch the whole episode, I think you recognize just what a significant moment this was.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah. Because if they all had done their full physical after the mission, I think the doctor would have revealed something was up here. Yeah, I mean, assuming memory and grams are part of the scan. Yeah. When Tom and Polana make it back to Tom's quarters. She has a great surprise for him. She has replicated a standard definition television. And a glass table. She's really got redecorated confidence here, doesn't she? Yeah. I got a framed photograph for you
Starting point is 00:21:45 one time as a gift, and it's maybe the most nervous I've ever been giving a gift aside from like the ring I used to propose to my wife with. Wow, what? Come on. Because like art is like something you hang on a wall. It's like very, very personal. What people select to hang on their walls.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And I was nervous giving this that it was like, ah, like what have I went to all this trouble? And it's not for him, you know? We love that thing. And it was very thoughtful. We hung it up immediately. You got us a nice framed photograph in a Vigave plant.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. Very cool, very nice. It's a beautiful photograph. And I just had a hunch. And BLT just had a hunch that an oldie timey television set with a bunch of oldie timey television shows for Tom to watch would be just the thing. And he kind of well actually is her when she hands him the TV remote. There were no remote controls in the 1950s.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I took a little poetic license. But they get past this, you know. The moment you're given a gift is not the time to well actually the gift. You gotta save that part for later, right? Unless your name is Adam Connover, it's never the time to well actually. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Poor BLT has given a great and thoughtful gift and it has immediately rendered her invisible such as the quality of the gift. Like Paris is fully involved with this thing to the exclusion of anything else in the room, including her. Cartoon! Classic blunder.
Starting point is 00:23:22 If my wife gave me a, you know, 10,000 Lego piece set for a present, you know, it would blow up in her face. I would love it, but she wouldn't. She clearly wants to fuck though, right? Yeah. And Paris isn't trying to hear that at all. Right, rather fuck this television. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like, he's as disinterested in her as he was that time he got a spaceship he wanted to fuck. It's true. And later that night Paris is up late watching TV. Yeah. And the channel stuck on some science fiction show. I'd never be able to get away with this. Too many guns and loud things on the TV at night before bed.
Starting point is 00:24:03 That doesn't really work for us. Yeah. I like the edit of this because he's watching the Untouchables and it's like a bunch of Tommy guns and then suddenly it's Ray guns, but I had to rewind it and I was like, what just happened? Yeah, it's nicely done in sequence. And it's sci-fi combat,
Starting point is 00:24:23 BLT has already fallen asleep. And Tom is like, oh, I was watching Untouchables. I want that back. And he can't get the channel to change. And he's like whacking the side of the TV. And then he sees himself on screen. Yeah. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Can you imagine a TV show with Tom Paris in it? Who would watch that? Am I making any sense here? Are a TV show with Tom Paris in it? Who would watch that? Am I making any sense here? Are we sure it's Tom Paris? Maybe it's the leader of Red Squad in there. Oh yeah, could be. Those guys look almost identical. Yeah, what side of his chest is he wearing his combat?
Starting point is 00:24:58 So he like cannot wrap his mind around this. And pretty soon he's just in it. Like we're not in black and white anymore. We're in actual nighttime footage of Tom Paris in his Starfleet uniform running around. Like you hear ceasefire a bunch of times, but nobody is ceasing firing. And he gets winged by phaser fire and then he wakes up
Starting point is 00:25:24 and he's like kind of rising on the floor of the apartment. Well, the Tommy Gun Battle on the television range is on. It's so interesting that he doesn't blame the TV for this. I thought initially this would be a, is this a magic TV? Type of moment? No one blames the TV. Yeah. TV is untouchable as it were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I like that. That was good. Thanks. Pitchy to your Halloween. Over in a Jeffries tube, Harry Kim is hard at work. He didn't take any time off after the mission. He's up in it again. And as he's up in one of these tubes, he gets a war flashback very similar to what Tom Parris experienced.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And it makes him all wobbly. And he starts crawling the hell out of there. But he can barely make to the door. And the door itself is all glowy and weird. He finally makes it to the other side. But he's out of breath and he's sweating. Yeah. This is all audio hallucination. I guess like the room kind of looks like it's warping a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Semi audio visual, but yeah, he gets to the door and that solves the problem temporarily, but he checks himself right into six bay and is being told by the EMH that he's been working super long, stinky hours on his Delta flyer mission. He's probably just totally worn out and he had a panic attack because the stress got to him.
Starting point is 00:27:00 When you're around someone who doesn't put their dirty dishes away long enough, When you're around someone who doesn't put their dirty dishes away long enough, you eventually reach a breaking point. And that's what happened here. Very sad to see. Yeah. Of course it's long day. What? You're supposed to need to be careful because I'm only going to say this once. Nielix's knife skills really make Cisco look like he has a shit together when he cuts vegetables.
Starting point is 00:27:26 What exactly is he trying to do with that tuber? Because if you were going to make potato skins and he's just like cutting the peel of this thing as something to fill up later, I can sort of get that. But the way he cuts it is as if he's cutting for that sort of recipe, but he's also chopping the knife into it later. I was bracing for him chopping a finger off in this scene. Like it really seemed like that's where they were going
Starting point is 00:27:56 based on what he is doing with this knife. You gotta cut your knees in equal proportion. So they cook evenly. Don't you understand? You're gonna chip a tooth out there. This kitchen has filled me clean enough, I won't fix your bar. Covered in blood. Portae Omi is in there.
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's a scary sight. That is a giant knife also. Naomi wants some vegetables to do some kind of like craft project, I guess. And she's also just like down kind of at knife level in this way that feels really charged and dangerous. She's also at stove flame level. When she reaches her hands up to touch the lid of the pot, I'm not confident she can even see it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah, she's way up over top of her head and she burns her hand on the lid of the pot and she's like, oh, oh man, almost got myself. And Nielix is like, we gotta get you to six, me. This is how fucking dangerous, are you okay? Yeah, Nielix is in the full blown flashback with her right now. She's upset by the burnt hand,
Starting point is 00:29:12 but not as upset as he is. Yeah, he is having a full meltdown. Like in Naomi's mild burn on her hand, seems like Nielix is really glimpsing the nemesis. Yeah. Let me see your hand. You're hit. Yeah, and it seems like it's the same way for Chicoate.
Starting point is 00:29:32 He's back in the war zone. Yeah. Which I guess we should describe a little bit. It's like a nighttime forest scene where this battle is raging and Chicoate is there. And it's just chaos. It's totally chaotic. It's really hard to see who's shooting who.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But the other Starfleets are there with him and they're just firing blindly into the woods and chasing people. Some of the people that are getting shot definitely don't have guns. And so, like, Chicote is like trying to help one of them and, you know, provide a little bit of battlefield medicine. And they're like, fuck you. I don't like you. I don't want you to help me.
Starting point is 00:30:18 They do a good job of teasing that out, right? Like, it's not groups of old and kids gathered together being executed, they're like the separate and distinct moments interspersed among the other battle scenes. It's pretty effective to so confusion. Yeah, we learn the name Savdra, he's the one in command and Chico Te runs
Starting point is 00:30:41 to the Savdra character who's like in a tent and he's like, hey man, like we got to knock this off These people are civilians and Savdor is like, yeah, but they're fucking shooting at us man. Yeah There's civilians with particle weapons of their own Toovac is the alarm clock here waking up to Co-Te With news of a security breach in the mess hall You know classic sexy voiced wake up call guy with news of a security breach in the mess hall. You know, classic, sexy, voiced wake-up call guy.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. Commander, please respond. Go ahead. And Chicoote goes down to the mess hall, which Nielix has turned into a hostage situation. Chicoote is the only one that can talk Nielix down because he drops the name of the Nikon and mentions Savdra and all these hallucination specifics are enough to convince Neelix that the battle is over
Starting point is 00:31:33 and that he can like come out peacefully and he doesn't need to waste everybody that's coming for Naomi. So that's nice. It helps to speak the language. It gets right through to to Nelix, at least enough to persuade him to let Naomi go and then give over the dustbuster. Yeah. So with this disruption in the safety of the ship, they start to take all of this a little bit more seriously. And now to Chico Tay and Nielix and the captain are down in 6-Bay talking about this. And the doctors like, yeah, like you have actual memories of the things that you're describing. These are not hallucinations, not dreams.
Starting point is 00:32:21 You're remembering shit as though it actually happened to you. Yeah. And it's happened to you. Yeah. And it's the whole group of them. Everyone who was on the mission. Yeah. And it happens like, all right, well, we've seen a couple of Star Trek episodes. Like, what could this be? Like we should like go maybe see what's up at the planets that you visited on your little milk run?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Is this like the McDeath episode? Our memories of the temperatures before that seems to be the connection, though. It's dangerous for those involved, but it seems pretty safe for the rest of the ship at this moment in time. They're being contained. And so if you get everybody together in a McLoughlin group, if you want, that has these memories. Everybody that was on the mission plus the EMH and the captain, they do kind of like a group remembering session.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And it also reminded me a little bit of schizzyms. Exactly. The gist of the feeling of what they went through, like they have the emotions of the memories a lot more vividly than they do the specifics of the memories. Yeah, and the dialogue, baton passing of the scene really evoked that feeling too. Yeah, so they've got the name of the Nikon, they've got the name of the commander that gave the orders,
Starting point is 00:33:37 commander Savdra. They have some general idea that the Nikon were civilians that they went and like, some general idea that the Nikon were civilians that they went and like, were supposed to like temporarily move but wound up just like mowing them all down. And so like they all have this feeling of like terrible guilt. This thing that was supposed to be just like a peaceful military operation turned into an absolute slaughter. Yeah, the peaceful relocation of a people who may or may not have wanted to go along with it. What's wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that. People who are in enclosures, according to the soldiers involved, were doing a move. And the last enclosure they came upon didn't have any of the colonists inside and that's pretty sus.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But these memories are pretty mid. Yeah. They don't have super duper clear connections. But eventually we do like cuts to like a meeting in the pup tent where Commander Sovdra is kind of giving them the their marching orders and, you know, it seems like innocent enough, like don't provoke them. This is like not supposed to be a violent interaction. We don't want any casualties.
Starting point is 00:34:55 We're just moving them temporarily and then they can go back, you know, like do whatever you can to reassure them. Chico, do you think if it's not gonna be a big deal, then certainly we can get a little shed eye first, right? And this is the moment where the viewer turns on Savdra by not letting Chico Te in the troop sleep when they really need it the most.
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Starting point is 00:38:26 You see what I'm doing? Back in the war zone, we see the shooting pop-off, and we see even more of the chaos that precipitated this moment. And there's a bunch of argument about who is to blame for this. Right. There's sort of a fog of war thing where they don't really know what started the shooting, but when the colonists start like panicking and running everywhere, they start shooting people who are running away. And you do see some of the soldiers go down, but
Starting point is 00:39:02 you don't ever see a colonist with a gun. Yeah. You can't really see where the shooting's coming from. It's hard to identify where and why this is happening. Yeah. Like the one time you can see the source of one of the shots, you see these kind of like concentric rings of just like the shape of a person, but you know, like you just see the jungle through the rings, you know? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And Shikote really comes in handy with this because he stands completely still. And then the pan flute starts to play. Sounds great. Yeah. He sort of gets what's happening in this part of the jungle in a way that the others can't understand.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah. He just wants them to get to the chopper. Yeah. Get to the chopper! Kim describes sort of panicking and running out of there and finding himself in this very like long, low star trek cave, and he's like, you know, he's like belly crawling through this tunnel and finds himself in a wider space where there's like a kettle on a burner, still hot, which indicates to him that whoever left it might still be close by.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then there's like a lady and an old man, who've been hiding in this cave. Don't you think this was secretly so much fun for Garrett Wong to do to kick over that pile of boxes? Oh, yeah. That looked like so much fun. I wonder how many takes he had. It's like, I want to do it one more time.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Really feel like I could put a little bit more mustard on that. You don't get to do that. Yeah. He didn't even have to buy those crates at auction. They sent him home with those. So Kim is lost in the youth caves and he demands directions out of the tunnels. And when the dude in the back makes a move,
Starting point is 00:40:57 Kim has to get it on. Had to get it on. And he kills the dude and then kills the lady, cause at that point, what's the difference? Yeah, he doesn't hesitate. And at the end of this story, ChicoTe finally comes out with it. They killed everyone, all 82 of them.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah. Is that all? Yeah. Yeah. 82, you say. I mean, I'd get a pretty good night's sleep after 82. I might not have become a total pacifist if it was only 82. Killing 82 people is like stepping on an ant to me. It's very insignificant.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Nikon, that's Nikon not a lot of people to kill. Why don't you just get over it? PTSD, how about having a nice cup of PTSD with me and my wife, Roshan? PTSD? Is it an Altalit? I mean, we're workshopping it here. We're workshopping here. No bad ideas, people. How about I make you a Shaftra Fuckdarl?
Starting point is 00:42:12 That you can play with until you feel better? You can punish him instead of punishing yourself. So the plan was to take Voyager back to the spot where the Delta Flyer was sort of retracing its steps and the Voyager has arrived and is sort of scanning for whatever might have happened here. They can't really find anything. Bilti pays Tom a visit and he's kind of like tossing
Starting point is 00:42:42 and turning on the couch in his quarters. She's got a new isle in your chip with some new programs for the television, and he will actually, he's her again about a home video, didn't really become widespread until, you know, a few decades later than the 1950s. And she's like, Jesus fucking Christ, Tom, I'm just trying to be like a supportive girlfriend while you're going through a hard thing. Like, what the fuck do you want from me? There is some really effective TV yelling here by BDUX.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, frightening explosive yelling that is like right in her face. Get the fuck out! He really has a hard time with accepting emotional support from his special person. And this is definitely a pattern at this point. Here's my advice, Tam. Later in. Later to comfort you.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Take it for me. On my dark night of the show, Roshan was there. We'd watch TV your own night. Then again, Roshan was a creation of my own at that point too. It's a little bit like I was In the early days it was just a rubber pelvis With hooves Well, I was refraining my technique. That was before I really considered my show in earnest Does Kevin play on our show anymore? That was now two series ago Kevin lives Kevin's never gonna stop being one of our faves. Yeah Kevin lives. Kevin's never gonna stop being one of our faves.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Wouldn't you know a bunch of yelling in her face finally drives BLT away and that's exactly what Paris wants here. He gets his alone time and we cut over to the ASLAB where Sevenish scanning through the systems planets with Jakote and the captain. I've ended interesting that of the four of them Chicoetay was handling this by far the best, and I wondered if it was from having recovered from the experience he had with the
Starting point is 00:44:54 Crady beasts, et cetera. God, that's such a great alternative to my theory, which was just like, how many parties do you think you watch Daya's part of the make-wease? Make-wee? But, like, both were war zones. He's a multiple war veteran. Yeah, he really is. Of like the psychic wars.
Starting point is 00:45:15 She wrestled your trembles to rage, didn't she? I guess I did. One of them was a psychic war, and one of them was real, I guess. Yeah, it's interesting, because, you know, Nielix is a heap. Tom is now a heap. Harry's basically useless. Chico Dei is like up and working
Starting point is 00:45:33 and like trying to get to the bottom of this. Naomi Wildman also useless. Yeah, she was traumatized and she doesn't even have the memories yet. Yeah. We meet like a character that they encountered in their journey and we like scan through a couple of planets. Why do I love scenes like this?
Starting point is 00:45:53 Like all I ever wanna do on Star Trek or anywhere else is like I wanna flip through file photos of things. Yeah. Yeah. No. I love this shit. Show me a picture of a weird alien. Show me a couple of pictures of planets. Yeah. Yeah. No. I love this shit. Show me a picture of a weird alien. Show me a couple of pictures of planets. It's great. One thing I've really been loving about
Starting point is 00:46:10 Newtrek is that the resolution of the shows is so high that when you get a file photo of somebody on a pad, you can pause the TV and actually read some of the stuff and it's really great. They always write amazing shit about the characters. There's a ton of effort put into that for nerds like us who pause and read. Yeah, it's so good. But a very eerie moment happens when they get to this one particular planet. The camera pushes in on Janeway and she knows that this is planet T'rakis. Yeah, there's coffee. T'rakis.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Go to Red Alert and set a course. I kept it. She gets a flashback of her own and it looks like she's killed a lot of people too. She did some bad things. No big fan of Savdra either. Yeah, this is kind of in the aftermath. Savdra has moved his weapon from kill to vaporize setting and is vaporizing a bunch of bodies like already working on the cover up before the massacre is even over Yeah, and she's like horrified by the you know trying to stop Evidence of the war crime from getting out thing that's happening She wakes up and Nielix's restaurant is full of people remembering these war crimes. One of the creatures. Copy for a sealant, do it.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Do it, do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. This isn't the first time this has happened, the whole mess hall as field hospital thing, but I think this might be the best it's ever been lit. Like, I really love the lighting coming out of the cooking area, shooting through that glass, and you're getting the shadows cast of the cooking implements back there. It also served to ring light
Starting point is 00:47:54 a bunch of the people in the scene as well. I thought it was just really cool and dark and spooky. It's not immediately clear what that stuff is in the background. You know, I think you need a few moments in the scene before you realize that this is the best haul. So that cooking area just, you know, in soft focus behind the action of the scene gives it like this layer that kind of puts you off your footing and makes you kind of wonder where they are. Like because we're no longer in the ass lab, for sure.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. But, like, this doesn't look like six-bait either. Neither is seven in the ass lab. She's been back there cooking a souffle for Nelix and doing a bad job. The souffle has collapsed slightly, but its nutritional content is intact. Thank you. Nelix is just a strut about the incident with Naomi earlier, and that it might make it so that he never sees her again.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And Nelix asks Seven about how she deals with her Borg's shame, because obviously she must feel a great amount of it being he gestures to her, you know, borgs or whatever. Any tips on how to sleep at night seven from someone who shouldn't be able to? I mean, she suggests dessert, but also she can live with it.
Starting point is 00:49:19 She's the pastry chef, the ship deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So he'll eat the souffle. Yeah. Because he's sad. Very nice. So Voyager arrives at Tarakas and I was surprised to see Paris at the helm. Like he still has a job at this point, even though he's being gripped by this thing.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And they discovered that no other vessels are nearby, so they just go ahead and park into orbit. And there's no one on the planet either. There's no sign of a fight. But Harry Kim does find a power source on the surface. And they go right to work, beaming a dustbuster club down there. And they are armed to the teeth. They're ready for this to be just as hot a battle as the one they're remembering because they really don't have great intel about what they're gonna find down there.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So this full dustbuster club heads down there. There's a weird cut to the transporter chief. Yeah. The camera lingers on her for like a weirdly long time and I didn't recognize her. I thought maybe she was a contest winner. Like there was that kind of linger. I think the same thought, like, yeah, like get on
Starting point is 00:50:29 Star Trek Voyager contest. How much work does sunshine do in this transition? Because when they beam to the surface, it's sunny and bright and almost cheerful looking and it looks like the Dust Buster Club stands out so much just for being, I mean, one thing we haven't talked about is the makeup department's work on this episode because everyone's just hanging bags under their eyes and looking to shoveled and and put off like to get this version of the crew down there, armed like they are in just a paradise.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Really. But looking so tired and de-cheflled. Yeah. Yeah. And they also shoot everybody really close in these scenes. Like they're outdoors. Like they could be getting real beautiful vistas
Starting point is 00:51:22 and wide shots that show the terrain. And they never do. The camera stays real tight to the people which gives it this claustrophobic feeling that's in total tension with what a beautiful day they shot it on. Yeah, yeah. It's really something.
Starting point is 00:51:41 They fan out to investigate and Kim and Tuvac are paired up and they're on a tunnel detail. Jane Wei and Chico Te are paired up where they've picked up something on her tricorder and they make their way toward that. And Kim and Tuvac do find the cave along with Paris. And there's a bunch of crawling on hands and knees. Like when I see a scene like this, I just think about the production and how as soon as I see a scene like this, I just think about the production and how,
Starting point is 00:52:06 as soon as you get a uniform dirty, like that is a big fucking problem. Like he probably had one go at this. Yeah, yeah. And that's a tough scene. Like he is melting down in this crawl. This is exactly what he remembered. That like they didn't know if they were gonna find
Starting point is 00:52:23 what they were remembering when they went on this mission and here he is like in the middle of the scariest part of the memory for him. Yeah. So scary that TuVoc has to try and teach him how to control his emotions. I can't remain calm. Seems like maybe the last person you would want,
Starting point is 00:52:43 teaching you how to do that. Yeah. Keep your fingers away from me too, Bob. They come into the wider part of the cave system and it's the same T-cattle, but it has extremely thick spider webs on it. The spider is really like Peter Northing, these webs. That's how things that are old work, right? Like it's not just a mount of spider webs, it's thickness. It tastes full of thickness, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah, and they find skeletons that correspond with the people that Harry remembers wasting and two Vox scans him and he's like, hey, good news. You did not kill these people. Yeah. Someone else got it on. Someone else had to get it on. 300 years ago.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah. We cut over to Chicoetay and Janeway and they found the source of the energy they were looking for. There's this big monument out in the middle of the field. And on top, there's a crackly orb, and Janeway scans the inscription on the walls, and puts it all together. It's a monument to the war. This monument is here to make people experience a thing so that they won't ever let that
Starting point is 00:54:04 thing happen again. And we kind of like smash cut right up to the ass lab where they're like deciphering all the glyphs on the side of it. And we get like the full explanation for what happened here. This monument has a synaptic transmitter inside of it that is glitching because it's so old. And it made them all experience this because that's what it was designed to do but like the memories are all fragmented because the power source is kind of, you know, nearing the end of its life and Ticot is like, great, well we can just
Starting point is 00:54:40 shut it down and go back on our way. Like, unfortunately, these memories are permanently in us, but, you know, what are you gonna do? And this argument is so interesting among the people that it's affected most, they really do have different opinions about what to do, about either destroying or ultimately repairing this monument. Yeah, and I think Nielix is the first one advocating for leaving it on.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Like he's, you know, like Nielix has his own war trauma and he's like, if the goal of this thing is to make people experience the horror and guilt that comes with committing an atrocity and thereby try to prevent future atrocities, then like who are we to unplug something that does that? I mean, it's not just about repairing the monument, so it continues to function.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Janeway also talks about leaving a warning bar there, which says something like, look, this is a well-produced show. It's professionally edited. It's got competent hosts, but it's not for everyone. Only enter the system if you've got the stomach for comic atrocities and wordplay torture.
Starting point is 00:55:50 That's what you're into. We'll place the warning, but we'll leave it. Anyone who enters the system will know what to expect. The warning, boy. Yeah, five stars. Yeah. Five stars. Ultimately, Janeway agrees with Nelix and they decide to repair it.
Starting point is 00:56:11 We cut back down to the surface where they are, you know, putting gadgets on the surface of the stones and, you know, repairing it. They all still look pretty shitty. Yeah, they have not recovered. And it seems as though recovery will take a long time. Bit of a captain's speech from Janeway saying, like, you know, we've done a good thing here today because the people who died in that massacre would have been forgotten otherwise.
Starting point is 00:56:40 They'd been back up to the ship. And we just get some like loving camera pans of this monument before the end of the episode. Yeah. And it's like kind of the first really wide shots we can't, right? Yeah. I guess there was a wide shot when they first find the monument, but like I felt like suddenly the episode felt very open at the end.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah. Yeah, that's a good observation. Yeah. very open at the end. Yeah, yeah, that's a good observation. Yeah, so tough episode, pretty heavy duty stuff, but did you like it? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bogey and I don't like bread and I don't like you.
Starting point is 00:57:17 You love this too. I really did. There's something at the end that I thought a lot about though, which is like, there's something that's supposed to feel noble and good in Janeway going. Then the cans were massacred here. And if they were alive, which they're definitely not, they would appreciate this gesture. And like, on the one hand, I utterly agree, but on the other hand, you remember reading that, like this is so insane, that Conan O'Brien said this,
Starting point is 00:57:49 but like he said, eventually every grave goes untended. Jesus. This is like a weird. Did he say that to like, Pimp Bot or? Yeah. Master of Aiding Bear, like bear, like in which context? It was a very serious in the year 2000 sketch. And it was like, what an unusual twist on that sensibility.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Was that like did Trump the insult comic dog add for me to poop on at the end of him making that observation? This is a grave that tends itself, right? Yeah. Like, it grabs you and makes you tend it. I guess so, yeah. What an unusual twist on that whole concept. Anyway, like, that's just with that moment made me think.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah. I also really, really like any episode where we get the range of Nelix's behavior. And this was definitely that. Whenever he acts out, I find that just a real experience. And I mean, Ethan Phillips, whenever he's permitted to do that, I think does a really great job. And he's a minor character, and he always has been. but like he feels major trauma. Trauma worse maybe than any of the other characters involved. And I thought what he went through was really effective
Starting point is 00:59:13 in helping to tell this story. So like great Neelix episode, I'd argue. And kind of a fascinating Twilight Zone style science fiction episode that it's bolted to. I thought really interesting story well told. I liked it. What about you? I need to.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I'm glad you brought up Nielix in particular, because I think at my worst, I'm really brutally self-critical, and it's something that I've worked a lot on in therapy, like how to not, you know, put myself on the grill as often as I do. And yeah, you're already done. You've been done. I tell you what, I think when Nelix is going through a thing, I can really see that aspect of myself in his character. In a way that's like, it can be tough sometimes to watch that
Starting point is 01:00:05 because it's not something that is easy to have as a part of my own inner life. And it's hard to see in a character that I like, making them self-suffer in a way that I make myself suffer. And that's, I think, the strength of this episode is that it starts with these four characters really going through it. And then it starts spreading out into the rest of the ship. And I think they did a really good job in that it sort of could have felt like a
Starting point is 01:00:48 brown zone kind of situation. Exactly. And it really didn't. I kept sort of expecting it to start feeling more like that and it didn't. Yeah, good job dodging the direct comparison by this episode for sure. Yeah. And I thought that a B-Dunks and Harry Kim also just got a ton to do in this episode and in a way that it felt like it was a little overdue for them. Absolutely, especially Harry Kim. I feel like he hasn't had this much dialogue in half a season. Yeah, yeah. Overall, I thought a really strong and very interesting episode. Yeah, yeah, overall I thought a really strong and very interesting episode. Yeah. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 01:01:27 You want to see if there's anything strong or interesting in our priority one in box, Adam? Oh, or traumatic. Sometimes it's traumatic. Sometimes it's traumatic, you know? Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement on it? supplement supplement Yeah,? A supplement.
Starting point is 01:01:45 A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Our first priority on message is of a promotional nature atom and ghost, like this. Despite traveling on spaceships, I can't remember anything about outer space. What is dark matter? Why do life forms need water?
Starting point is 01:02:15 That's why I listen to SpacePod, a podcast where one earth scientist talks to another earth scientist about the latest space research. Wow, so this is like a space news show. Yeah. I like that a lot. Yeah, one host is an astro professor, about half the guests are women in the show. It's what you'd hear at a hotel bar during an astronomer conference, it says here. Wow! I would love to go to an astronomer bar.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yeah, that sounds rad. Yeah, that should be a thing. If you are curious about some real space science and not some bullshit made up Star Trek Space science, give it a listen. You can go to listentospacepod.com or presumably find it in your pod catcher. About that. Very unusual concept for a podcast. Good job.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Yeah, it sounds like they probably don't mainly just lard it up with Dick and Fartjax, which is an interesting concept. That's a strategy, I guess. Ben, our second priority when message comes from Owen, and it is to Mom. That message goes like this, Mom, I'll never forget watching Star Trek with you on our little black and white TV while you cook dinner for us. You gave me my love of Star Trek, and without that, I would never have found this stupid podcast.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I love you and I miss you. And then parenthetically, it says, Adam and Ben, TGG got me through my mom's death. I can never repay you for that, but here's a hundred dollars. Damn Owen, I'm really sorry to hear about your mom's passing. That is really rough, but if this show was of any use to you in a tough time like that, that's always nice for us to hear. Yeah, it's the best feeling to know that what we do can help anyone with anything, especially something as heavy as this, so it makes your saying that, Owen.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Our final P1 is from Stephanie and it's to Gwen. It goes like this. Happy birthday the Gwen. It goes like this. Happy birthday Gwen. If you're hearing this, it means you've taken a break from writing that novel. Celebratory Row Lairon Drop. Love that for you. But when you get back to work, make sure to keep the hanker
Starting point is 01:04:44 chiff under your nose and keep writing. That's it. I'm sure it'll stop soon. So it sounds like Gwen is constantly sneezing when writing this novel. Yeah. Gwen's congestion is a real problem. Maybe it's just allergies. Yeah. You know, go go talk to an allergist or, you know, a general practitioner. You don't have an allergist. Yeah. Let's get to the bottom of this, Gwen. Good job taking the sick time, though.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Yeah. Take care of yourself. Thanks to everyone who got a priority one message today. A real wide variety of different types of P1s. If any of them was inspirational to you, you can head to MaximumFund.org slash GemboTron to set your own up today. Hey Ben, what's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I think I'm going to give it to Harry Kim for just like not controlling his crankiness on the Delta Flyer mission.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah. Like you are 60 seconds from seeing the aft section of the ship out the front window and now you're boiling over and like yelling at people and making it clear how uncomfortable and unpleasant you find everything. Yeah. It's like you made it that close to the end and then you showed your ass like that.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Just tuck it deep down. Yeah. For the rest of the trip, and you're almost done. Yeah, that's hard to understand. It's like they're basically on the doorstep. Yeah. You don't have to risk a career limiting move like this. Like, you and I have been on tours together where, you know, like, we're getting toward the end of a leg and we're both fucking tired and maybe like last night's show didn't go as well as we wanted to.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Maybe we're in a cab with a couple of exploded tires. Late to the airport. And wonder the other of us is wrong out and like makes the other one aware of that. But it's never happened like at the baggage claim at the airport when we both back in the way, you know. Yeah, no, that's the worst time. Try to end on a good note. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:01 So for that reason, I'm making Harry Kim my drunk Shimoda. I'm gonna make Savdra my drunk Shimoda for committing atrocities. You shouldn't have done that, Savdra, and you shouldn't have destroyed the evidence. Yeah, why did you do that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, that's the version of the drunk Chamoda that he earned. Just might be willedermant at his atrocities. It's incredible how little he thought about that. Incredible! Good Chamoda, Adam. Let me tell you about the next episode. It's season six episode 15. Tsunkatsi. Killing for sport becomes sevens only means of survival when she is abducted into a ring of Fistacuffs. Is this the rock episode? This is the episode with the rock. Oh, I was so excited about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:05 It's an episode that if memory serves happened because UPN was getting WWE, and this was like a promotional crossover. Yeah, this is big fun. Big fun. I never watched Star Trek Voyager during its initial run, but I remember this preview playing on UPN all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Exciting. The Rock was and is a huge star. This is a huge get for them. Is this before or during his contract saying he can never lose a fight. Wow, I guess we're about to find out. Yeah, we're also about to find out
Starting point is 01:08:48 how we will be doing this episode. Our runabout is currently on square 74. Looks like we could potentially hit an nth degree episode. That's the type of episode in which we do deep forensic research on the episode and share incredible facts about it that you may never have heard of anywhere else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:12 We're not just going on memory alpha and learning one or two things about the production. We're like finding out stuff that has never been revealed on an empty. I mean, we're creating content for memory alpha in those episodes and you see it all the time. Yeah. We're all over memory alpha.
Starting point is 01:09:29 People cite us as a primary source. Yeah. It's good stuff. Yeah. So that's the only square I think we can hit. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Let me go ahead and roll this bone.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Ooh, I rolled a three. Tula! Did I win? Inching us forward, that nth degree is still in front of us, Adam. Wow. All right, what a tease. Big tease. Still available to us.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah, honestly a little bit glad because, uh, as of this recording, you're about to go on a little vacation. We're not going to record next week. And I'm sure we would have forgotten that we'd rolled an n-degree if we had to record. Also, with the way the game has been functioning lately, we could have gone anywhere on that role. It's true, it's true.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Well, that will be a regular episode next week, and I am perfectly happy with that. Hey, Anna. What? We got some people to think. We got to thank Wendy Pretty, our producer, and editor. We got to thank the friends of DeSoto who make all this possible by going to MaximumFund.org slash Join.
Starting point is 01:10:38 We got to thank everyone who leaves a great review wherever they listen to podcasts. Look, that's as important as anything else. It's true. We remain the most and best-reviewed Star Trek podcast there is, and I hope it stays that way. Yeah, we really appreciate everybody that helps us maintain that status. That's really cool. Yeah. The friends at DeSoto do that, they gather in a bunch of places on social media using the hashtag GreatestGen. You can go to drunkshmoto.com and join the Discord over there.
Starting point is 01:11:07 That's a fun group. Yeah, man. Hey, if you haven't been watching these episodes on YouTube, yes, should. We've got the audio on YouTube for episodes, but also our code 47. Hey, Matt, there's a video on YouTube. You can see all the stuff we open.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yeah, it's great. Look at our faces. Look at our dumb, dumb faces. Thanks to Bill Tilly, the card daddy, thanks to Adam Ragusia, our buddy who makes all of our original music, thanks to dark material, who made the original Piccarch song. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:11:42 We will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that can smell what the rock is cooking. Did you just flash the people's eyebrow there? Look at that. Look at that. You got it. Maximum Fun. A worker-owned network of artist-owned shows supported directly by you.

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