The Greatest Generation - Leech Wish (ENT S4E3)

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

When the Entrepreneur arrives back at Earth and Captain Archer blows up in his debrief meeting, he ends up on vacation with an old flame who wants to help him clear his head. But after Tucker joins T�...��Pol for her shore leave on Vulcan, her betrothed makes an offer she really can’t refuse. What’s the real reason for only one laurel on the lectern? Which banger-enhancing upgrade won’t be installed on the NX-02? Who designed Darth Vader’s house? It’s the episode that is the 600th file in a dropbox folder.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in starving. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument from me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the song. Welcome to the 600th episode of The Greatest Generation, it's a Star Trek podcast, by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. All 600 of them. I'm Adam Pranica.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm Ben Harrison. How does that number make you feel? You know, I was thinking about it, and then I was like, it's kind of inaccurate because we've got bonus episodes, we've got, you know, greatest track episodes, which, you know, could be argued as somewhat counting toward the total. I think 600 is noteworthy in that we've just done a fucking lot of these. I think when it comes to, like, metadata and file organization, I don't like the food on my plate touching.
Starting point is 00:00:58 So it's very easy to tell that, like, in this folder on Dropbox, there are 600 episodes. There's one folder with 600 files in it now. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's pretty cool. I mean, cool. Maybe an exaggeration in terms, but exciting. We did, like, a hosting change maybe halfway through our run.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And I think when we switched hosts, we had, did we have like 20 million downloads? at that point before we switched? Somewhere on my computer, there's probably screenshots of our stats. Yeah. Those are not portable. Like, that's a number that you can't take with you if the files move on to different servers. And then I'm looking at what's on our current thing, and that's like almost 15 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So we've really lost some of the enthusiasm. Oh, but, you know, when we started, we were doing two of weeks, which was crazy. Sure. also we don't know I don't remember quite when that transition happened so we could be doing just fine could be these numbers though it's just hard to it's hard to imagine how many people that is you know like the human mind can't grasp 15 million downloads in a couple of years it's staggering it feels amazing to be here we really appreciate everybody that's been with us for even part of the journey I know, much less you sickos who have, like, listened through a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I'm glad we made it this far. Like, it wasn't a guarantee, you know? Like, in the beginning, we were like, let's just do this thing and have some fun. And then let's do Deep Space 9. And then let's do Voyager just because that's next. Let's just do Enterprise because that's next. But I don't think when we started out, there was any promise of any of this. No.
Starting point is 00:02:53 None of it was promised. Still isn't. We're very lucky to have found the community that we've found. And the, I mean, maybe the most remarkable thing about this whole project is that you still say things that surprise and delight me every single time we sit down to record one of these. Oh, man. You're just a really fun person to get to do a project like this with. That is a really nice thing to say, Ben. I feel the same.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And I also just feel like there's no one else in my life I could have done this. with besides you. I think you're a unique combination of being willing to do it, being good at it, and being the sort of person that you can do a project with for years and years and years. Like, fuck, man. Like, maybe that last qualification is the biggest. Like, in many ways, this is a weird, fucked up marriage. You know, you're like a work husband to me. Like, we've been doing this for nine years. It's going to be 10 years. pretty soon. And that's like, what is the divorce rate of people normally? And like, what is the rate of podcasts that start and don't even make it past a year? Like, that statistic,
Starting point is 00:04:08 I bet, is bonkers. I can only imagine. I mean, um, the stakes couldn't be lower. But like, yeah, I mean, if, uh, if we can make it, I think you all can make it too. We got a great episode of Star Trek Enterprise to talk about today. Do you want to jump in? do you want to keep gassing each other up or you just want to get on with it like it's a normal episode it kind of seems like the latter the thing i'm realizing adam is that home is where i want to be hmm yeah and what is home if not the comedic recap of an episode of star trek ben this time around the 600th time around it will be enterprise season four episode three and it is called home.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Got free speech and guitar. What a moment in this cold open. Yeah. A stadium built over the water. This is like some airports in Asian countries. Like, I think Japan has one or two of these where, like, they've built an entire airport. They just dumped a bunch of earth out into the water.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah. Built it up with pilings. And there's an airport. And that's what the stadium reminds me of. Is that, like, more earthquake safe? Like, oh, this is new ground, so it's not going to bust apart like old ground does? I mean, I'm an idiot, first of all. But I got to believe when your ground is wet all the time, that can't be good.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And why is the ground wet, Todd? I don't know, Margo. Huge, huge crowd. And it's a little bit end of New Hope, like there's, There's people standing in ranks for this, this hero's welcome. Is your sense that the crowd is purely Starfleets? There are no civilians here. This isn't a ticket to get in your mind, in other words.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm thinking the stands might be mixed company, but the people standing in the middle, you know, the pit, that, that reads a Starfleet to me. We get a shot, reverse shot of Archer here, and I was shahawked. No notes. no teleprompter archer's going off the dome he's going off the dome i bet this is dark archer as the engine for this like dark archer doesn't need a prompter i noticed that the lectern has it's it's got the earth on it but just one laurel on one side of it and i wonder what that was about yeah like you only get two laurels if you're like uh diplomatic organization like the united
Starting point is 00:06:49 nations or the united federation of planets there's something about the asymmetry of that that I find very displeasing. I don't like it. It really looked broken. Like they moved the lectern out there and like the two guys that moved it like accidentally bumped it against something and we're like, ah, shit. Oh well. A couple of union stage hands out there.
Starting point is 00:07:14 This is a dark stage right now. No one moved the lectern. Hey, who the fuck is this guy? He doesn't have a card. Get him out of here. I was also a little surprised that sexual icon Admiral Forrest, up on stage is sort of like the host of the event. Like you guys aren't here to hear me, right?
Starting point is 00:07:41 You guys are super jazzed about whom I'm about to introduce. It's a speech that starts off pretty strong, like Archer kind of deferring the hero stuff to his crew. and specifically to those who passed away in the project of preventing the Zindy from destroying Earth. But man, it feels fucking first draft as hell once he's through that emotional opener. I was just like, man, maybe you should have had a teleprompter. Maybe there should have been some folded up printer paper inside the breast pocket of your uniform, man. Isn't it kind of great that the theme song kind of saves this moment?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Like, we don't see the body of this speech. All we see is the student that has crafted the attention-getting introduction into the theme song. Yeah. And it kind of gets him off the hook. The 27 RSVP salute is really something to endure from an audiovisual level. Like, they really play that loud in the stadium. Because it's a prime number. You can't do...
Starting point is 00:08:45 You can't do seven guns three times. times or whatever. You know what I wanted for real? Was like a missing man formation with a bunch of shuttle pods like a flyover. That would have been nice. The budget was all spent on Vulcan bells. What else was on the program for this? Like Archer's like 45 second B minus of a speech and then what? You know, I didn't even intend to make my observation of the flyover be related to that but you're right how else do you end a moment like this except with flyover or fireworks or something yeah you can't just have archer go all right uh thanks everybody should have two drink tickets in your program uh enjoy amazing we're in the bar after the theme unclear whether this is the
Starting point is 00:09:41 six oh two bar it it looks like it's dressed the same but i did not see its neon sign or its exterior establishing shot. What we get is an archer in here about ready to get a drink when he's approached by Hernandez. And Hernandez has some playful banter for him that really drives home the idea that they were a couple extremely into fantasy role play at one time. The bar is reserved for regular customers. Galactic heroes have to sit at a table. They get to talking. I mean, it seems like she's making a move, like, or at least if not making a move, like making it very clear that she is available should that be the kind of mood he's in because who knows he doesn't want to talk about what he went through in the Delphic expanse that's not really something he's up for she uh washed
Starting point is 00:10:31 her launch bay before going to the bar that night what kind of shape is your shuttlecraft in I haven't seen you in a while what's what's up with the weird like extra part on the front of your shuttle pod like did you take a lot of battle damage while you were out there interesting that she's a professional he's a professional she wants to have a professional conversation in the bar what happened to you in the expanse being one of the topics she wants to get into he is not trying to drink and talk about that he wants to talk about the lighter stuff seen any good movies while i was gone Nice to hear that the film industry survives this far into the future. I wouldn't abet on it, but there you go.
Starting point is 00:11:21 People love an award show. Yeah. Our audience is proof of that. Oh, yeah, they must have given out awards at that after that speech, right? Oh, yeah. That would have been fun if he'd come in with like a bunch of medals around his neck. They tried to get one around Dr. Flax, but he blowfishes his face. You can't get it around.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He's just like wearing it like a, like a, like a, Crown. Like Rambo's headband. It's like when you're invited to a party and you don't show up. It doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:11:59 It turns blue. Hernandez does not seem like she's interested in like dating him or like getting back together or anything. But she does seem like available for sex. and that's really it isn't it that is the energy like welcome back war hero you can get this if you want this we used to knock it around quite a bit before you left i just want to say i'm leaving for my own mission soon like why don't you why don't you do for me what i did for
Starting point is 00:12:34 you before you left on your mission huh send me off in style yeah send me off with a dumped in shuttle Bay. Trip visits to Paul. They're both going on shore leave, but he's kind of not sure what to do with his free time because of the place and people he would visit having been wiped off the face of the map. Yes, this is my home now. It seems pretty clear that he's fishing for an invite, and the invite she has for him is come back to Vulcan and stay at my mom's house with me.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I did not see this coming, at all. There's a trundle bed in the basement trip. One thing this episode really gets right is the vibe of like, it's the end of the school year and everyone's going off. And like some people, some people don't want to go off. Like, some people don't know where they would go or if they want to go. And this idea of trip visiting to Paul, feeling like that, feeling like, I don't want to go and visit my sister for a variety of reasons. Listen, if I wanted to go visit a gash in Florida, you'd have to check my head.
Starting point is 00:13:58 There's a gash I'd much rather visit. It's on planet Vulcan. It's on a trundle bed in the basement of your mom's house. what a deal and he's going to do it he's going to do it he's doing it never let it be said that trip wasn't an adventurous soul
Starting point is 00:14:22 yeah yeah it's good faith to believe I can do parody Archer and Captain Hernandez are touring the bridge of the USS Columbia which is the ship that she will be taking out pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Just getting the finishing touches put on it, as is evidenced by the 10,000 people arc welding various things all over the bridge. Just so many fucking sparks flags, such an active and dangerous seeming work site. I could not believe that they were not wearing hard hats for this scene. What is the post that the random welder behind the command chair is working on? It looks like he's putting up a basketball hoop. Is that where the command chair is going to go?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Is the command chair just sitting there waiting to be put onto that post? Oh, my God. I did not put that together. That makes all the sense in the world. But much in the same way as you, I'm now architect, clearly, but like you make a tall building flexible so that the wind and seismic events won't break it for being so brittle. Wouldn't you want some sort of like playground spring on the bottom of that command ship?
Starting point is 00:15:36 for when the bangers get dropped? I think that's going to be a banger enhancing situation. You're going to be like, whoa! It won't stop! Somebody come put a hand on this thing. As an actor, that makes your job easier, though, right? You don't have to go flopping around. The chair's doing the work for you.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Sure. Yeah, that's true. You put a quarter in and it does it a little bit itself, you know? Pretty great. He recommends getting some lumbar support for that some bitch because you're going to be sitting in it a lot. I love the idea of like a throw pillow on the captain's chair. Just a little something, you know, pop a color, little accent.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Are you saying that because the captain is a woman, Ben? A fucking accent pillow on the command chair? How dare you? I'm saying it sounds like that is what Archer needs. He specifically needs a little extra pillow for his lumbar. Also, Adam, I don't think it's sexist to say pillow. personally, I think it's okay to like pillows. I'm looking forward to your new children's book.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It's okay to like pillows. Soon to be banned from a public library near you. Ben, I feel like if there's a point to this scene, the point is Archer wishes that they didn't need all those weapon systems, but actually encourages all of those and then some. Actually, more weapon systems. If Starfleet offers you X amount of weapon systems, say two weapons systems. If they offer you three, say you want four. Give them no place to go. Yeah, the Columbia is being configured a little bit differently from Enterprise based on lessons learned from the
Starting point is 00:17:21 surprises that they've encountered in the last three years of their mission, and specifically in the last year. And Archer is very, like, weapons focused in this scene. We've got to have weps. He's the And the next scene is the debrief of Archer in front of the two great sexual icons of this show, obviously Admiral Forrest and Ambassador Soval, among others. Hernandez is here for this as well. This is Archer answering all of their questions about what went down in his long time away from Earth in the Delphic expanse. And the subject seems to really revolve around specifically. the Vulcan ship Salaya and the crew dying and maybe that being Archer's fault.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Like this is a huge sticking point for Saval and the rest of the Vulcans. As far as I can determine, you didn't try to save a single Vulcan crewman. There was no point. They were too far gone. You ever get invited to a meeting that turns out was a grilling? Because I feel like if Archer was told this was a debrief, on the menu was his ass and I don't think he was told about that ahead of time
Starting point is 00:18:36 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Archer walks into the room and is like, what are you guys all doing here? And Soval pulls out a yellow legal pad with some thoughts written down on it. Oh, no. So in effect, we don't know what really happened aboard the Salaya.
Starting point is 00:18:54 What the hell does that mean? Soval is so interesting here because he draws an equivalency between the bloodthirstiness of the Vulcans that Archer found on that haunted Vulcan ship with Archer himself in making the decision to blow up that ship. And there doesn't seem to have been enough evidence gathered to satisfy so of all that the Vulcans were too far gone as we were assured in that episode. So it's a bad look for Archer. Like if he wanted to come home looking clean, he did not play
Starting point is 00:19:32 every moment of that episode correctly and he really does not like the implication of what Saval is saying and starts getting defensive and starts screaming at everybody and basically they just have to shut the meeting down like, okay, Archer is not in a place to answer
Starting point is 00:19:48 this super cool Vulcan's questions. What do you think is worse? And don't even think about it. I would like your most instinctual answer to this question. Okay. Crying at work or blowing up in a meeting, which is worse.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Absolutely blowing up in a meeting. I mean, crying at work, you just go to that room right next to the lactation room, you know. Sure. Archer has a lot of capital, coming home a hero to the hero's welcome, getting schools and shit named after you. He's banking a lot of that, that he has then dumped. He's like withdrawn from the ATM machine and then just thrown it in the lake with this blowup here.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I got more help from the Andorians than that. I ever got from the high command. That's enough, Captain. He gets kind of, like, hauled into sexual icon Admiral Forrest's office after they, like, suspend the meeting. And he's still yelling and ranting and raving like, fuck the Vulcans, the earth would be dust if it wasn't for me. What the fuck does that guy get off saying that?
Starting point is 00:20:51 I mean, it is lunchtime. And so it doesn't surprise me that sexual icon, Admiral Forrest is, like, behind a desk eating a sandwich using tissues as a napkin. What am I supposed to use? We put you in front of Soval to make nice with the Vulcan High Command, and you blew it. Yeah. You blew it. Their relationship is not good.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Like, it has been pretty good up until this moment. Now, I'm not so sure with this briefing on hold indefinitely and Archer being so mad that Forrest didn't take aside. It is a terrible look, and Forrest basically orders Archer to go on vacation. and cool his boots for a minute. We cut up to the ship where Flax is getting ready to go on shore leave, so he has packed his menagerie up into dozens and dozens of little terrariums and cages. So many that he needs Lieutenant Reed's help carrying them through the ship. Reed's perfect for this as a bit of a valet for Flax.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I need something to do on this ship, come on. Fair enough. Finally, we've found something that Reed is good at. read adds some extra baggage to what flocks is carrying here ahead of his vacation with the bit of news about folks on earth being fairly prickly toward those of a non-human descent or whatever there's been some ugly xenophobia happening on earth given the gash that was carved into florida by aliens dr flocks not concerned with all of this after all he has a a couple of suitcases full of leeches to use as personal defense. I can handle myself, Lieutenant Reed.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I so wanted the payoff to this scene. Like, we get a very fun payoff to the xenophobia, which I maintain is the perfect description of that. Fun payoff to xenophobia ahead. I wanted it to involve leeches. I wanted this fucking hillbilly to come up to Dr. Flock starting a shit. And then instead of mace or,
Starting point is 00:23:00 or punch him out, it's leeches to the face. Ba! He's like, what the fuck? They're in my mouth. They're in my mouth. They're going into the space between his eyeball and his eyelid. Oh, yeah. You know, full body horror.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You don't seem to know who you're dealing with. A doctor with vengeance. on his mind you must have a leech wish the only thing more bloodthirsty than me are these leeches hillbilly xenophobe goes back to his pickup truck shuttlecraft and he's like picking them off of his face using the rearview mirror and then like classic move then he looks down the front of his pants and like reaches in into where his crotches and he's like Oh, because you know one's on his dick. You got to get a leech on your dick.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They always find the dick. You like that hillbilly boy? Now I'm using Pulp Fiction Dialogue at you. The first time I've seen a shuttlecraft with a lift kit, by the way. Yeah, man. It's like, oh man, that thing seems like it's always detailed, not a scratch on the bed of it. It seems like you never actually put something in that and haul it around. Are mud flaps really necessary on a shuttle pot?
Starting point is 00:24:36 Like, especially ones with, like, in-profile pin-up girl? Yeah, Andorian pin-up girls. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude. Did you just pitch a bumper sticker for this door? Andorian pit-up girl. Yeah. It's exactly the silhouette of pin-up girl except she's green.
Starting point is 00:24:57 There you go. I'm also thinking Andorian dashboard hula dancer would be fun. I said green, thinking that you were not thinking of Andorians, but thinking of... Orion's. I blew it. You blew it. You green it. But we could do it for both, right?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah, we could have a green one and a blue one. I mean, it's just that I don't see color, Ben, in that same way. I got confused because the Andorians and the Orion's were teamed up. in that one season of discovery. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, don't sue us. I won't cease or desist
Starting point is 00:25:39 because you really think it's fair use. Captain Hernandez finds Archer getting ready to go rock climbing. This is his vacation. He has, like, gone off into the wilderness to go on a rock climbing trip solo. And somehow she had intel on this. Like, she knew exactly where he was and how to find him and how to scold him for doing this not using the buddy system.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I kind of feel Archer's vibe here. He wants to go do something alone. If you've been spending a year in the expanse growing out your 5 o'clock shadow and killing a bunch of people, like maybe the only thing you want to do is bust off of a cliff. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:23 To feel something new and fresh. I think that while they're really, relationship may not have lasted a really long time. I get the sense that Captain Hernandez knows exactly how Archer's head gets cleared. You know? Yeah. She is just biting her time until that moment happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I mean, there is a form of seduction that is so passive that you could just read it as being there, just being around, waiting for the right time. And that seems to be Hernandez's play here. And there's a form of seduction that takes the form of just being a little bit ahead of the person that you're climbing with on the rock face. Yeah. We cut over to Vulcan and Casa de Tepal, which has a neat patio with some water features. I really like this outer courtyard that you go through before you're inside the house. Really nice digs.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It seems like the sort of place where you'd learn how to meditate and maybe. get some yoga like this is a retreat style place from the looks of it. Very cool. Uh-oh, Ben. Here comes Mrs. T. And she was not expecting guests.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Mother, you're home. Obviously. She's a little bit unpleasant to trip initially upon learning that she's got unannounced house guests. Isn't she entitled to that? Like... Great call. I was really on T-Less
Starting point is 00:27:56 wavelength here. Yeah. It's like, like I know that the episode is trying to paint her as like a bit of a domineering bitch so that Topol can have some conflict with her mother. But I was like, Tilless has like done nothing to deserve this crumbum coming and staying on the trundle bed in her basement. Like, you know, a little warning would have been nice. It's not like they don't have subspace radios in the future.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Her name might as well be say less to Tripp Tucker. Given how that situation is going, Tripp gets excused to go unpack his shit in the trundle room, and that leaves mother and daughter to discuss why mama's home. Aren't you supposed to be at work? That's actually not something she's interested in saying too much about. What you would rather talk about is the letter left to DePaul by Koss, her former fiancé. And this is someone that her mom is very, much in favor of her being with. Now that you say that, I'm thinking even more about how much I
Starting point is 00:29:02 sympathize with T-LAS, because what T-Paul was imagining was that her mom was going to come home from work and Trip would already be ensconced on the trundlebed. That would have been worse. Worse. What the hell, Tepal? What are you doing? Or she comes home from a long day at work, and she hears the sound of Vulcan Europressure being done. She smells it in the air. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you know she smelled Tripp Tucker before seeing him. Yeah. Oh, did I forget to take out the garbage before I left for work? Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It fucking stinks in here. What is that? Who's shit? I'm Charles Tucker. Pleased to meet you, ma'am. Archer and Hernandez are climbing these rocks and shooting the shit. And this is like one captain who has not yet gone out on her five-year mission full of optimism and excitement for what is to come with another captain who's already been
Starting point is 00:30:03 ground into a pessimistic state of mind by his nightmare over the last year telling her like, you need to be ready for all the battling you're going to be doing and all of the eulogies you'll be reading. I mean, I know you and I used to have a thing, but you should just prepare yourself for the amount of alien nut shot at your face. the way I was unprepared for, because let me tell you, it'll shoot you from far away and you'll not be able to wash it off. We have to help these children. Let me just say this, because I'm glad we're in a private context.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You're one of the few people I know knows what this means. The nut that the aliens shoot doesn't work like, but not that humans shoot. Like, try to imagine if I roped on your face, and then from then on, you became connected to me, defensive for me, willing to just sacrifice everything for me from that point on. And you'll get a little bit of an idea what it's like to fly in the expanse. As opposed to sort of the opposite of that, which is what really happened. You remember when I did that and then we didn't talk? I was never able to look you in the eye even though it was my idea.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh, man. Interesting this moment. I mean, Hernandez is like, hey, Archer, did you read the email with the, you know, the position recommendations I'm going for? I'm trying to staff a ship here. Archer's like, nah, I got no time for that. I'm trying to be on vacation. Just make sure you put the bloodthirstyest motherfucker you can find in terms of tactics because I made a mistake there. You may want to find someone with more field experience or makeo. How conspicuous was the absence of Reed's name in this moment? In a, like this could have gone in a bunch of different ways. Either find yourself a real read type, which would be like very complimentary, over-complementary of Reed, I think you could say. Or a, God, you got to do better than Reed.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Like, let me tell you, you go out in a deep space with a guy with that kind of shooting skill that's not going to work for you. Or I was expecting Archer to thrust read upon her. Like, you know who'd be great for you? Someone who's been out there before. He's got some city miles on him. He's had a few reps at the old tactic station. This is a reference to our other hit Star Trek podcast, but Archer could Charlie X read up a little bit? Like gas him up. Like, hey, you should take this guy. You'd love him. Let me just say he's been a pleasure to have a board. you're going to want someone who can write letters believe me they spot some mountain line tracks as they're climbing and that's a little concerning but the the tracks are old so maybe they don't have that much to be worried about and over on vulcan it is early in the morning when to less starts banging the gong in the courtyard and trip is awakened by to Paul. It's 4 a.m.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You know Mrs. T. is hitting the gong a little bit louder than she would normally. She fucking loves this. Yeah. This is great. Yeah. It is incumbent upon the guests to prepare breakfast. That's just the custom on Vulcan. What a thing. Get an early
Starting point is 00:33:38 start. Yeah. We cut to that meal directly and Mrs. T. is still wondering what the hell her daughter is doing there. Yeah. A bit strange that DePaul has spent so much time amongst these humans, and Topal reveals that she has been offered a commission in Starfleet that she's giving some consideration to. And this is
Starting point is 00:34:02 pretty dismaying to Les. There's some argument over whether Topal's father would have approved of all of this Starfleet shit or nah. And they kind of disagree on that. there is something about a confrontation with a disappointed parent that made this scene feel extremely familiar and uncomfortable in that whole like i thought we were arguing about this but now it turns out there's actually four more things that you're taking umbrage with because it's not just about like the command with starfleet like mrs t also has that energy of like it would be great if you blew an a few more phone calls and visits from time to time. And she's clearly been keeping score in a way that infantilizes an adult woman, an adult capable person like to Paul, in a way that feels like I've totally felt this way. I don't know if you have,
Starting point is 00:35:02 but I feel like a lot of people have where you're like, fuck, like what do I got to do to look like a capable adult in front of you? I'm just trying to have a sleepover with my human friend on the trundle bed. I think that in retrospect, the way Teless plays all of these scenes makes so much more sense
Starting point is 00:35:24 when you find out that she is being punished for the perceived crimes of her daughter. Absolutely. It's got to salt the wound so fucking bad that Tepal brought one of these fucking humans home with her too. Yeah. Mrs. T is like you can have him
Starting point is 00:35:43 eat my breakfast you can have him sleep in my trundel bed, but you cannot have him ring my giant Vulcan gong! Is it a bell or a gong? I think that they're interchangeable based on the way it's being used, maybe. I don't know. My giant postmodern bullshit yoga retreat house. There's just a shot of a bunch of Vulcan sitting at a bus stop
Starting point is 00:36:13 and Thaleses screeches up in an unmarked crown vick opens the passenger door and kicks a gong out the door and drives away. To Paul's like, I defile myself with Tripp Tucker. Hey, now what's that you say? What? Legally, it's just a fart joke. You will never take the greatest chin alive. Ben would rather die
Starting point is 00:36:46 This argument between mother and daughter doesn't have a resolution here. We instead cut to Reed and Dr. Flock's and Mayweather who I feel like in an establishing shot, I don't like seeing the back of Mayweather's head for like a period of time before we go like, oh, Mayweather is also there. They're holding down a three top at the bar
Starting point is 00:37:12 and Reed is signing autographs. It's got to be a thrill for him, right? Oh, man. He's like, this is the first time I've written my name on a piece of paper without writing a very sad letter right before it in a long time. The angle on is the piece of paper on the cocktail table and Reed starts his signature on the paper, but then it goes off onto the table.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And he's like, fuck, I can't even hit this. They get a pro-jointed. by a racist townie who is very clearly spoiling for a fight with Dr. Flock's. Is he anti-Nob or is he anti-anything-but-human? I think he's anti-anything-but-human because he's doing that like I don't, I can't tell the difference between all you aliens. But that means he's not racist. You know what that means, right?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Species are a social construct. Yeah. That's what you're arguing. Yeah. So therefore, these guys are about to catch an absolute beat down. I mean, they're like in the midst of catching this beat down when Flax puffs his head up like a puffer fish. And it so startles everyone in the room that the fight stops.
Starting point is 00:38:30 There's a couple of things that bump me in this scene. The first one is, what kind of a punch does this hillbilly throw? Because it looks like the punch crosses Reed's face. without hitting it. Was he going for Flox? I thought he was going for Reed. Yeah. There's something about the composition
Starting point is 00:38:50 that suggested to me that Reed was the target, but you're right, if it was Dr. Flux, then that would make more sense. It's almost slow motion in how it plays in the shot. That part bumped me.
Starting point is 00:39:03 But also, when Dr. Flox goes full puffer fish, I thought he was doing it in that, like, diffuse a situation with comedy kind of way. Like two kids in the playground are fighting And to like get them to break the spelly
Starting point is 00:39:18 Like puts his thumb in his mouth And blows real hard And then like I'm weird Mr. Pufferface guy Look at me And then the kids forget what they're fighting about That's not it It's not it
Starting point is 00:39:31 He seems embarrassed when it's over And like maybe a little tired Like it took something out of him to do that This last shot of the scene I think does so much work In conveying the way weird feelings that Dr. Flux has about it. Really great take.
Starting point is 00:39:47 T. Les has been having some trouble with her fridge, and, you know, it's one of those $10,000 units that you can put the same material on as your cabinets so that it just blends right in. God, those are so cool. They're so cool, but they're so fucking expensive. So she doesn't want to have to replace it. So Tripp, using his skills of a warp engineer, is fixing some components with. In Thales comes home from the market with only extremely phallic vegetables, like an entire
Starting point is 00:40:20 shopping bag full of only vegetables that are dick-shaped. And she's like washing them in the sink, like rubbing them up and down, well, telling Tripp that she is aware of what his relationship with her daughter entails. She's like, I know about all the neuropressure, et cetera. You know how when someone has been amputated, they will often. describe a phantom limb sensation of like a feeling of of something being there that actually isn't when mrs t returns with all of this phallic produce i was looking for a mom's teach sex logo in the corner of the frame that uh that wasn't actually there yeah yeah maybe they
Starting point is 00:41:04 used AI to like replace that yeah so he fixes her fridge this is great i feel like this is trips save the cat moment for two last she's like holy shit maybe he's not so bad after all yeah you really do feel that in the moment he does a good thing and then he feels like he can ask a couple of questions like it's weird that to paul told you about me in the way that you understand it like i'm a little bit on my back foot about how much you know or don't know and mrs t is like she didn't tell me shit I can smell her on your dick like a mother knows would this be a bad time for cost to arrive
Starting point is 00:41:51 because he does she's like when I wake you with the gong at four in the morn something's going on can I smell your dick that was a classic I can make a reference to a a rap or hip-hop thing, but you actually have the backup. You actually have the true knowledge of it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah, I mean, what a classic that song was. Great music video. Nothing bad about it. Check out the balls on cost, though. Cost doesn't call ahead. No. Cost comes right over, thinking that the letter was the call ahead. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I mean, but he did more than Tepal did about bringing Tripp. that's true the door flies open and everybody turns their head and goes Koss what are you doing here I thought I recognized
Starting point is 00:42:51 this guy under the loaf did you I didn't because when Koss and Tepal go out to the courtyard to talk I'm like something about this guy isn't working for me
Starting point is 00:43:02 and I finally figured out why that's because the actor who plays this guy plays Goval the Lenny Borg from Descent Part 2. Whoa. You remember that guy?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Man, it's been such a long time since we watched Decent. A character who tended not to get things back then and now. She is doing everything she can to get this guy off her scent. You have the option of choosing another mate. I don't want another man. She uses her terrible and depilitating drug addiction. for a reason to tell him to fuck off. And that doesn't work. Or maybe a fight to the death would get you off my ass, Lenny. That's not going to work either. Finally, Koss has got to hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:43:52 He's got family connections that could put Mrs. T. back to work at the Vulcan Science Academy. All you got to do is marry me. And the best part is, we don't even have to live together after a year. What do you think of that? And DePaul is like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, why would she want to go back to work after she retired? And he's like, hmm, oops. Oops. On the mountain, it's nightfall.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And are we talking about day for night here? Is this the scene where they're like looking at the stars? Yeah, except the trees are fully lit. And there's like a weird halo effect around Archer. I sort of wondered if they like chroma keyed the sky or something. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, there's some weird effect happening here. I mean, it's definitely day for night plus something.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Mm-hmm. Yeah, like there's a lot of talk about, you know, interesting places they've gone. But Archers sort of come around to the perspective that they're going around and poking their noses into shit. And what that has done is stirred up trouble and brought a lot of that trouble back to the planet Earth. and it's just more of him trying to talk Captain Hernandez into his dark Archer worldview. Archer left Earth with a Starfleet as a promise kind of mentality and came back as a secure our borders on the homeland type. And what I think about, like we've gotten a series of these scenes so far, Ben,
Starting point is 00:45:32 archer's doing all the talking. Hernandez is doing none of the judging. She's being a really good friend by just kind of absorbing this and listening, absent any judgment. And I thought that was so interesting. Yeah, this is like something that I'm embarrassed to say took me like well into my 30s to understand. But sometimes when somebody's going through something like this, they're not asking for you to talk them out of their thing. They're just asking for you to be an ear. Oh, man. I'm so glad you got out of this in your 30s because this remains a challenge for me, almost constantly. hey Adam you don't have to compare your own situation to anyone else's when they bring up an issue like shut the fuck up you think that's bad wait till you hear what ben Harrison said in the in the slack today got free speech and guitars back on planet Vulcan
Starting point is 00:46:34 DePaul confronts her mom about this situation with her being voluntled to retire and turns out she was under investigation by the security ministry over the theft of sensitive data and this was all a bunch of bullshit because DePaul was out of reach for the Vulcan security apparatus and so they wanted to punish somebody over what happened to Pajem, and it was just to Les's bad luck to be to Paul's next of kin. These accusations are truly, truly, truly outrageous. Oh, it's truly, truly, truly outrageous.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Truly, truly outrageous. A fantasy. They are, yes. To Paul does that thing, she doesn't blame her mom, but she doesn't not blame her mom for accepting this. You know? Like it's clearly wrong She was clearly Steamrolled by this
Starting point is 00:47:35 Right shouldn't you have fought this But she also accepted it And that's something That DePaul takes great umbrage with It was not what Topal would have done She imagines in a similar circumstance Toiles calls to Paul On how emotional she's being
Starting point is 00:47:52 And it's like This must be because of that boy you brought home That boy down on that trundle bed Must be bringing this out of you And It's weird that that she starts from this scene forward calling him boa. And Tripp's like, that's mighty nice.
Starting point is 00:48:09 That's what my mother called me before she was vaporized by that zindy beam. Topal does not confess to her trellium addiction in this moment. Did this surprise you? I thought this episode was leading toward a moment where mother and daughter would put down you know, their weapons and she would become maternal for her daughter who had been suffering or who had suffered a great loss. In the way that a TNG's family episode finally resolved into a roll around in the mud, like there certainly there was going to be a literal or metaphorical role in the mud between mother and daughter, right? It seemed like we were building
Starting point is 00:48:54 to that and I was, uh, had a little bit of, uh, trellium blue balls. At the end of, of this scene. Yeah. Well put. Archer wakes up to the sound of mountain lion noises. Wild can. Wild cat. He gets out his gun and starts creeping around in the dark looking for this mountain lion. And everybody knows what Archer is searching for is a mountain lion. But what this scene presupposes is Maybe he's getting jumped by a couple of reptiles, Indy? Yeah, and they've got knives. What? Why wouldn't they just shoot him?
Starting point is 00:49:39 I loved PlayStation 3, Archer, going off the cliff. That was really fun. Really cool. He starts awake. It was all a dream. And he starts getting his shit together, like he's going to go climbing again. And Hernandez wakes up, and he's like, what are you doing? man. Like, you cannot rock climb in the dark.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Are you just trying to climb away from your feelings? Oh! Get his ass! Captain Hernandez! Get him! Are you telling me I have some kind of a death wish? You tell me. Archer's like, when else is dark archer going to climb? But the dark! He just wants to be alone.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And this is where it becomes clear that he sees in Captain Hernandez, his innocence lost. And he just wants to undark Archer himself. How do you even do that? And she's like, he, he, this is the moment I've been building toward from the second I walked up to you in that bar. And then the camera cuts to a starship entering a wormhole and a train going into a tunnel and a volcano erupting.
Starting point is 00:50:56 the Echo Park Lake for some reason shooting its fountains yeah a bunch of birds flying out of a tree interesting the parallels between Archer and Zephram Cochran right also a person on whom heroism was thrust right like he did some things but he was super flawed he doesn't want a statue in high schools named after him? That stuff makes them very uncomfortable. Why do we keep doing this to people, Ben,
Starting point is 00:51:32 in Starfleet? I mean, but also, like, Archer did try to become captain of the first Warp Five ship. Like, I think a little bit of this he, he signed up for. So he, he failed to anticipate the way it would feel when he got the thing he, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's the dog that caught the car, basically. He has been thrusted, but he is also the thruster. Yeah, yeah. In so many ways. On Vulcan, speaking of thrusting, Tepal has thrust trip into a little sightseeing trip. Isn't Vulcan always a little more lava-y than you think every time we go there? It does not seem safe, this place. These statues seem like they could be eroding from underneath because of all the magma and just fall right over and crush you. You want to get a million emails and
Starting point is 00:52:20 tweets, Ben? You ready for this? Okay. Kind of reminds me of whatever that planet that Darth Vader lives on you know like why would anyone choose to live in a place like that with all the lava and so forth yeah yeah I mean I don't know what that planet's name is or like what his base is called
Starting point is 00:52:39 or whatever did Frank Lloyd Wright design that falling lava wonderful she breaks its two trip that she's decided to marry Koss not so much because she wants to be married to Koss but because she wants to set things right for her mom.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And this arranged marriage would have been a big deal to step away from even without her career getting destroyed. But she's got to do it. And he's very pissed off, mostly about the inconvenience of having traveled 16 light years to get this bad news. And how am I supposed to take this? I'm sorry. much in the same way that we saw, you know, a bunch of visual metaphor for what's going on between Hernandez and Archer.
Starting point is 00:53:32 We pan away from Topal and Trip into where those lava pools were. And what was once, like hot and steamy, is now like just dry and cold. I wonder if that's like a symbol for something. I don't know. Maybe another scene will tell us. On the mountain it's day again Bannon the mood is better Because Archer has roped There are so many more mountains to climb
Starting point is 00:54:02 It seems Like those two on Hernandez's chest Do you think that's like a symbol for something? Yeah I think so Why'd they ever break up anyway We see this moment We've lived this moment
Starting point is 00:54:17 So many times What did we break up for Things are great oh yeah was the inappropriate workplace thing and the uh the unbalance of power during but Hernandez has a great point here she's like hey we're both captains look at me look she holds out a mirror like like selfie style to them both look at us we're the captains now you could but tell your chips on Hernandez mm-hmm archer can once again sink his peaton into her rock face.
Starting point is 00:54:54 If we change the words, then it's fair use all day long. Hey Adam, did you remember that the character of Hoshi Sato is one of the people on this show? Wow, genuine spit take here on the show. I hope you pulled that clean because that's the only time I'm ever.
Starting point is 00:55:22 ever going to do that in the studio my studio's a fucking mess she is uh in six bay doing great almost parasite free after her ordeal with the reptile cindy you ever spit take for fun that was fun it looked really good it looked like you'd been practicing honestly like it was uh that was an s tier spit take god i hope it sounded good it sounded good uh uh flocks is not feeling great after his run in in the bar and ho she's aware of this she heard about it from mayweather i heard you blew some guy in a bar dr flocks am i did i hear that correctly i mean i heard it like fourth hand so the story has kind of gone through a bunch of different versions yeah it's been going around the ship that you blew a guy in the bar and uh i mean that that's that rules i know
Starting point is 00:56:16 that you're polly i didn't know you were pan that's great she doesn't agree with the shame around Dr. Flax's experience there. He doesn't want to go back to Earth anymore. No matter how much he loves egg drop soup, what he's come around to is the idea that when millions of people are murdered on a planet by aliens, maybe giving the humans some time to heal is the best thing to do.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. And I know reflexively, Hoshi's opinion is like racism is bad, and a great defense for racism is just being head held high, out in the world, living your life. Those things are evident and true, but in a Star Trek context, in this context specifically, what Dr. Flock says here, I thought, gave humans a lot of grace, and I kind of agreed with him. Like, maybe it would be bad for me if my instinct is to... Like, hurt people, hurt people, and I don't want them to hurt people, and I don't want them to hurt me, and I understand why they're hurt right now. As a medical professional especially, like, he does not want to hurt.
Starting point is 00:57:32 He wants to heal. And if heal equals Dr. Flax's not being there, even if it means sacrificing a meal of a great soup, that's what this choice is going to be. I don't know. I just feel like on a superficial level, I feel like the reaction to the scene, would be like, fuck that. Dr. Flax has got to go out there and be in the world and fuck the humans. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But, like, I don't think so. I think this is more nuanced. And I totally understand and get Dr. Flax's side of it. She'll bring him takeout anyways. In many ways, takeout Chinese food is superior to a restaurant. I love going to restaurants as much as anyone else, but love all the little boxes. Mm-hmm. Why is it when you get Chinese takeout you make a fucking mountain of Chinese food
Starting point is 00:58:17 on a plate in a way that when you make food at home normally, I am never making a bunt cake amount of food on a dinner plate the way I'm making it out of Chinese food. I don't understand it. I get Chinese takeout sometimes here in the neighborhood and like the volume of food looks like it should feed like four of me. Yeah. Like for days. I can't help it. And I'll fucking plow through that whole shit. Yeah. I love it. It's amazing. Yeah. So back in the debriefing, which is sort of winding down. They've got Archer strapped to the chair this time
Starting point is 00:58:50 so we don't get out of it. Yeah, his eyes are clamped open. We don't see it though. It's just concluding. It's the end of it. Yeah. I would imagine that this would be days and days worth of debriefing. I mean, like, they must
Starting point is 00:59:06 have all of his logs and then, like, they go through them and ask questions to clarify things, I'm guessing. I mean, he's been gone for a really long time and has seen some fucking shit. If you were to sit down and someone were to ask you the question, what happened in Enterprise Seasons 1 through 3, how many days could you fill up? I could talk about this show for an hour, I think, before I run out of steam.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, I probably wouldn't remember a lot of it. Before I come out of my chair at Saval. Yeah. Archer is actually, he is so refractory that he's actually able to apologize to Soval for the blow up and they have a little moment Saval is like hey
Starting point is 00:59:50 like you were totally out of line earlier and I'm like still like a little bit weirded out by our ship but like Dark Archer was a necessary evolution of your character and something that had to happen
Starting point is 01:00:06 to save not just your world but mine like the like the thing you did made a huge difference for everyone and I'm so impressed that I'm not going to do the Vulcan hello. I'm going to do the human hello and shake your hand. Archers have changed man, and I think all it took was nutting off of a cliff
Starting point is 01:00:26 for him to get some clarity here. Good job. Trips getting all gussied up for the wedding, putting on some Vulcan regalia. I don't believe this. You're going to put that thing on and parade around like one of them? And it fits them great. Telles comes in and helps him with it a little bit
Starting point is 01:00:45 And she is Feeling a little bad for Tripp, I think She's like, you know, like this is Topal fulfilling a family obligation And maybe she wouldn't even be doing this If you'd been totally honest with her And Tripp's like, what do you mean? And Talas reveals that she understands That Tripp is madly in love with Topal.
Starting point is 01:01:07 What a fucking bomb thrower, Mrs. Tia's. I mean, I saw this coming a mile away, but still, I was like, what a little meddler! Yeah. And now I'm thinking, like, Vulcans appreciate a grand public gesture? You better do it, Tripp Tucker, before it's too late? Before you lose her forever? Here's to you, Mrs. T. Les. Vulcans don't show their feelings outside.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do love this turn for her in the, like, look, they may not see I die on basically everything in their life, but deep down, she wants her daughter to be happy, and this fucking guy who smells like garbage that's been left in a kitchen for an entire summer, like, if he makes her happy, if garbage boy makes my daughter happy, then I don't want her to go marry Koss. cost the derpy Vulcan who for some reason just reads to me as a little slow Tripp is like stuck in this horrible dilemma where he's like I'm going to feel terrible if she marries that guy but if I tell her that I'm madly in love with her I'll feel even more terrible if she goes and marries him anyways and I'll feel terrible for having like messed everything up and put this amount of pressure on her if she doesn't marry him we've talked a number of times about how much Jolene Blaylock does with her eyes versus the technology
Starting point is 01:02:45 an actor has with the rest of their face that they're able to use that she specifically can't because she's portraying a Vulcan. And when you see Topal in this wedding scene on the verge of tears kissing trip on the cheek as if to say, save me, like, that is super affecting. She is so, good at this and like the tragedy on trip tucker's face in this moment is just gutting i thought this was the moment where he would intervene but when like she goes to cos and like kneels and they start doing the ritualistic finger stuff i'm like now it feels too late now that this thing is started i don't know that there's any stopping it the only thing that can stop it ben is a fade to black Wow
Starting point is 01:03:32 Did you like this episode Adam? I can't pay Could for late Got no case Tempting fate I was angry that it stopped here Because this is a cliff
Starting point is 01:03:47 I didn't see coming Yeah Could we not get it to be continued here? I don't know We just not doing that on Enterprise I don't know I mean It's such a fun feeling to like
Starting point is 01:03:59 not know where the story could possibly go from here. If it's a serialized show, they're all to be continued, right? I suppose so. I like this episode because it made me feel some things, specifically the desire that Tripp has for Tepal and the knowledge that he's going to lose her for some bullshit reasons.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yeah. And like, I think when you're growing up, you get in your youthful relationships when you're trying to figure out what it's like. to be in those what it means to be a boyfriend and like the many reasons those relationships end most of them bullshit like this really rang true to me and a like sometimes you just can't
Starting point is 01:04:46 control these factors and for Tripp to have to confront them personally like he's all alone he's on Vulcan and he's seeing the girl he loves marry this fucking dip shit like Very sad. Didn't like that, especially because I know we've said this before on the show, Tripp Tucker, like, maybe my favorite character on the show. He's so great. I want good things for Tripp Tucker. I don't want as hard to get broken.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And this would do it. I don't love that. But I thought the episode was very effective in making me feel those feelings. And I think that's what makes it a good episode. What about you? Yeah, like the episode of TNG after Best of Both Worlds is like such an obvious comparison, and like this horrific, bloody incident that has changed all of them.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I think that the writing in this is really good and subtle, and I like that they kind of withhold some of the catharsis that you're hoping for in some of these scenes. That feels more realistic. Like, you don't just come home and it's all candles and birthday cake. But what is Mrs. T, if not another Robert,
Starting point is 01:05:54 like fucking hardcore, hard-ass? not understanding family figure, you know? Totally. She's really good. I hope they do more with this character. I really liked the character a lot. And, you know, I say T more, not T less, personally. I want to say T-Mobile, the official wireless company of Greatest Generation.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Ben, neither of us mentioned the Archer storyline, and I think I suspect, it is because that is kind of the weaker story the one that is kind of nothing like I kind of wanted for even more to Paul and Tripp Tucker than settle for what we got
Starting point is 01:06:41 with Archer and Hernandez, right? Like, what do we really get out of that? I don't feel like Archer's okay. He's still dark Archer. It's not like after nutting with Hernandez he's fixed. No, but I think I get this in.
Starting point is 01:06:57 that his trajectory has changed. Even if he's still in the darkness, he's, like, bounced off of the warm embrace of her shuttle bay and is, you know, headed in a more positive direction. Yeah. Well, Pope. See, if anyone puts anything well in the Priority One message inbox. Great idea.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplemental income. Popamilin on. Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. We've got a promotional priority message here.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Oh, yeah. None of these people knew this was episode 600. Man. We should have put it out there. We should have. You know what? No. We shouldn't have.
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Starting point is 01:08:25 Our pizzas are named after Trek, with our most popular being the Riker, spicy yet consensual, and the Cerritos, a pizza worthy of second contact. Order at crusherspisa.com, and here's the call to action, I got a C&D, which I think means cease and desist. We had faith of the heart, but they didn't think it was fair use. Over at Crusher's Pizza and Wings. Dang. What does that mean? I went to their website, and it's still there. Maybe some of it got it to change.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I want a Crusher's Pizza and Wings t-shirt. All pizza places have a T-shirt, right? I've got to. If you're in the ATL, go try Crusher's Pizza and Wings. I'm looking at these pictures. Looks absolutely gorgeous. This is one of those pizza places that all. also has a hoagie, which I fucking love.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah. Got a meatball parm on there, got a chicken parm. You know what I say? Take the pizza, leave the canoli, because I don't care for those, but I would eat all of this pizza. It looks fantastic. You can get it by the slice, which I love. That's great. You got the bar pie.
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Starting point is 01:10:45 Thanks for always trying all the scary things first. Going to school, getting a job, You've been watching DS9. After all these years of competing, I think it's time we both finally admit that the funniest brother is E. Chebs! I hope to hear him wish you
Starting point is 01:11:03 a happy birthday. Love you. Hey! Echib, it's been a while. I'm still back here. Keeping things moving. You know what I mean. Hey! Sorry for blowing out your birthday candles.
Starting point is 01:11:21 with this hose of raw sewage that I got all over your face and cake. Anyways, you're closer to whom than I am, so you tell George, happy birthday. Pretty great couple of messages there, Ben. Indeed. Birthdays and businesses and everything in between Maximumfund.org slash jumboTron is where you can go. Write a couple of words, and we'll do the rest. Great way to support the shows that we make. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Hey Adam. What? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda! I'm going to make mine Mrs. T. Okay. When you put your husband's clothes on a person who isn't your husband's husband,
Starting point is 01:12:10 I feel like there's a connotation there. There's like, I'm not saying there's a sexual energy. I'm saying that there's, that's, that's, that's, like, that's, that's, that's, significant. It is. And I found it strange that there's Tripp Tucker dressed in her husband's clothes. And nothing is made of how weird that is. Either by Tripp or her.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Also, he asks for a tailor, and that shit fits him so well. Yeah, what does he need a tailor for? Here's the thing, like, because the central point of that scene is the whole make the grand romantic gesture, that's the jangly keys that dishecks you from, what's Tripp doing, wearing her husband's clothes. I wanted more of the husband's clothes energy to that scene, and I think for that reason, I'm going to make it, maybe Mrs. T. and Tripp Tucker split the drunk Shimoda there. I think one of them needed to say something.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Another line of dialogue about the husband's clothes is necessary there, I think. What about you? I have a time code Shimoda for you, Adam. Oh. If you'll take your episodes to eight minutes. and 43 seconds. Uh-huh. Uh, this is the scene in which we are, uh, starting out the debrief.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Mm-hmm. The scene in which eventually Archer explodes at Ambassador Soval, but, um, it's the shot, reverse shot and over Archer's shoulder in the corner of the room are Captain Hernandez and an unnamed admiral who is an older white-haired gentleman. Uh-huh. who has gone and fallen asleep in his chair. God, there is always one of those at these big corporate events, huh? Yeah, I just loved seeing that guy snoozing in his chair.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Do you think this is intentional snoozing? Or is this an actor who's had a long day? I'm looking at this guy, and I kind of believe that he actually fell asleep, and they maybe thought it was funny and, like, let's just keep it. could you imagine being a background actor and falling asleep during? I would imagine you'd have to be so vigilant about, like, gesticulating just the right amount and doing the mouth movements without saying things and making it look robotic. Like, to be a good background actor is a skill.
Starting point is 01:14:36 How could you fall asleep? The thing of it is, his role in this scene is just to sit in a chair. He's not supposed to be talking or reacting even. Yeah. That's tough. Poor fucking guy. Poor fucking guy getting called out 20 years later on a Star Trek podcast. Faith of the fart.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Let's start talking about what's happening next week on the show, Adam. It'll be season four, episode four, Borderland. Criminal Eric Soon has brought aboard Enterprise to assist in finding some genetically enhanced human. he created after stealing DNA leftover from the eugenics wars. Ben, this next episode is not about Tripp Tucker making a grand romantic gesture, breaking up a wedding and then running off in a shuttle pod
Starting point is 01:15:33 with Topal? That's the cold open, but then the rest of it's about some other shit. Wow. Okay. As long as we resolve the other thing. Yeah, I'm sure we will. Ben, what we need to resolve is how we're going to experience this episode. We do. Gach.biz slash game is where you find the game of buttholes.
Starting point is 01:15:54 The Will of the Riker Quantum Leap. Currently, our runabout is on Square 58. That's where we left it for this one, it being a regular old episode. We need to find out how we're going to do the next one. Let's do it. For that, I will roll this 100-sided die, which could take us anywhere. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Here's that roll. Ben, I've rolled a 77. Shula! Did I win? Hardly. How, big roll. Which puts us right on the doorstep of a his eyes uncovered episode. Alas, not that square, just ahead of it on square 35 is where we are.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Regular old episode for us. All right. I'm all right with that. Yeah, me too. I love a good metaphor, but you can't have everything you want. Hey, this has been a lot of fun. Thank you to everyone who supports the show at maximum fun.org slash join. Thank you to Wendy Pritty, our producer. Thank you to Bill Tilly, our peacetime consigliary.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Oh, yeah, I guess so. Got to thank Rob Adler, our social media director, who with Bill runs the At Greatest Trek social media accounts. Send something in for a future code 47, slide into those DMs. Got to get yourself signed up for the greatest mailing list at gravestreck.com. And we got to thank Adam Ragusea, who made our parody music based off of Diane Warren's original, and Dark Materia who made the original Baccarz song. With that, we'll be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Enterprise,
Starting point is 01:17:39 an episode of The Greatest Generation Enterprise, where Adam and Ben try and, uh, augment our genetics and it really fucking backfires. I shouldn't have picked at it. That's the problem. You feel like you're going to do good and it's just bad. Now everyone notices the augment. What's that thing on the tip of your dick? God damn it. Just left it alone.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I have to keep that thing out of my shuttle bay. Maximum Picard of the U.S. Make it so. Maximum Fun. A worker-owned network of artists-owned shows. Supported directly by you.

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