The Greatest Generation - Local Backzip (VOY S2E9)

Episode Date: July 26, 2021

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podcast that trades in dick jokes, but we know that can be a really tough issue for some folks, so we just wanted to give you a heads up. The finest crew in stopping! Engage! Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys. Just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranaka. I'm Ben Harrison. Extra oomph behind the names today. We're back across town from each other where we belong. Yeah, socially distant, stand, distant socially. You can't possibly have that much raw sexual energy in the same room for too long,

without needing a break. Well, I also just, I'm very private when it comes to the family Bible. I don't like that volume with a lot of people. We had talked about doing a Bible study on today's open. I'm just glad you're not here in the room with me to look at. Yeah, I mean, last time I was in that room, I saw your picture of Jesus painting on the wall

with the eyes that seemed to follow you around, everywhere, really deep, penetrating eyes. Oh. You know, a lot of controversy about the white Jesus or the black Jesus or what have you, but I think I'm just really mystified that you chose the robot Jesus to be the one that that's on your wall, Ben. Well, that's just how I'm wired, buddy Do you want to get into This holiest of books the Star Trek Voyager production Bible?

It's good to see you all in church. It's cool to the Bible. That's the way God wants it. I don't know why, dude. All these questions? It's a little blind thing too much to ask? All right, I'm getting prepared for Bible study in the way that's probably best.

Interestingly, Chicote the third character to come up in the show Bible. I would not have guessed that, who's number two? Do you want to throw out a guess of who number two is? I'm guessing Tuvac. It's Tom Paris. What? Yeah, he character with the, I guess the most to redeem, I suppose, from a Starfleet point of view.

Yeah, but it sure does feel like we're done with that. Like redemption has been deemed. It's done. Yeah, there's still a lot of interest in the Tom Paris character. Like, redemption has been deemed. It's done. Yeah. There's still a lot of interest in the Tom Perris character. Oh, yeah. He gets chewier and chewier, I think. Oh, because he's the pilot of the ship, right?

Brrrr. Brrrr. Ha-ha-ha-ha. That's one of them, they're smart jokes. Here's the entry on Chico-te, because today's episode is a Chico Te episode. Alright, the first officer is a complex...hold for laughter. Someone say difficult, man. His background is unique.

He spans two cultures, one foot in each, belonging to both yet to neither. In the 22nd century, a group of Indian traditionalists became dissatisfied with the homogenization of humans that was occurring on Earth, strongly motivated to preserve their cultural identity, the relocated to a remote planet near what has now become known as the Demilitarized Zone, which Akote is a member of that Indian nation,

but was always what his people called a contrary. He had a mind of his own, an individualistic rather than communal way of thinking. Though proud of his heritage and his traditions, he was not satisfied to ignore the galaxy around him, a galaxy teaming with diverse life forms and amazing technology. He broke from his people, educated himself in the ways of the 24th century, and attended Starfleet Academy. But he was contrary at the Academy also, and found he had difficulty adhering to the rigid

codes and rules. He was commissioned and posted to the Merrimac just after the end of the Cardassian Wars. When he learned that his people were becoming the victims of attacks by the Cardassians, he left Starfleet to defend them, joining the then infant group. Like Greece? Chocotain never gave up his practice of traditional rituals and he preserves them aboard Voyager, and his quarters as an Indian altar and other traditional fetishes. One wall contains a version of traditional mural art.

By the 24th century Indians have developed a technology which allows them to experience vision quests in a completely safe way. Chico Te has a spirit guide. Wow, we just found out what a spirit guide is. Oh, and we're going to have to bleep that out. Oh yeah. He has a reference for all living things. He will not eat meat. He takes no drugs or alcohol, as a leader, he is steady and fearless, and capable of inspiring absolute devotion. That he comes on to voyage or more by necessity than choice,

he quickly wins the respect of you the most die hard star-fleet veterans. He strikes an immediate and powerful bond with Janeway, an unusual one with Kim, who through Chicoote's example begins to question his own homogenization and the loss of his traditional values. Wow, kind of a twist ending on that. I didn't really see the Kim connection coming.

No, not at all. I don't feel like they've written to that much. Now. So far, anyway. They haven't spent much time together in a one-on-one kind of way right yeah chico te is always crashing a shuttle with other people I mean it's an interesting right up a character that on the page sounds a lot more complex than than who we've gotten

up till now in uh in Voyager I don't think that's unfair to say. Yeah, I think that the character caught between worlds is a real like beloved fave of the Star Trek writers rooms, you know. I mean, starting with Spock, they love exploring the idea of a character that like doesn't fully belong on one side of the line or the other. And it's interesting to think of Chico Te as being in that tradition. I don't think I've really thought about it in that way before. I think it's what makes Starfleet such an aspirational place.

You know, if Starfleet is a place, it often says Star Trek is a place. But Starfleet is a place for people who do those kinds of splits. Right. You don't have to do the splits at Starfleet Academy. It's not that kind of physical fitness training. It's a marathon. You know that much, but no splits required. And that's where these people from all these different backgrounds are able to find some

belonging. That's where to find some belonging. That's where they find some flexibility. Yeah, it's true. Well, do you want to get into the episode that we came to talk about? So ends the reading, Ben. A piece of Star Trek Voyager with you. And a girder upon you. I'm glad we did the Bible study before starting this episode because I made a very conscious choice not to read anything about the pre-

or post-production of this episode, none of the reaction to it. I kind of felt like this might be a kind of landmine sort of episode. And I really wanted to approach it with an open mind. Like I don't want to bring a bunch of hate to a thing knowing how it was conceived. Like I want to figure out whether or not this is a good Star Trek episode and that's what I'm here to do. So I'm just going to say that right off the top.

Yeah, I mean, I think that we've, if this is the first time you've listened to the greatest generation, go back, we've if this is the first time you've listened to the greatest generation go back We've discussed at length some of the problems with the depictions of Native American culture in Star Trek generally and this series specifically in previous episodes But I think that's a reasonable goal like let's just assess this as an episode I don't want to lard up every episode or every moment having to do with Chico Te,

with like, I don't want to load it up with that again. It just makes the exercise less fun. We all know what's going on here. It's not great. It's not great. Yeah, one step out, not great. Let's think one step in and see whether it's okay or not. I'm glad we all know what's going on here. It's not great.

Is it the last thing said before we introduce Star Trek Voyager Season 2 Episode 9? Tattoo. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. We start in media quarry. What have you got, Litt Lieutenant? We ain't found shit! Tuvac has been shot from this angle before. Uh-huh, yeah. Very familiar.

Yeah. Bilti and Mielix are there as is Chico de. They are on a rocky moon. There's some kind of maintenance that needs doing so that the war vengeance can keep running. And they need a particular substance to do it. There's some kind of maintenance that needs doing so that the warp engines can keep running and they need a particular substance to do it. Polyfaronite. And they've been kind of poking around

lots of different places and this ain't it, brother. They need the raw materials to scrub the inside of their warp core. God, I'm never gonna live this down. What they need to do is find those jugs of the liquid that you have to drink before a colonoscopy. Mm. Yeah.

They do. But instead what they find is a weird diagram on the ground. Somebody has like poured some chalk, like maybe like cleared a little bit of dirt and poured some chalk, like maybe like cleared a little bit of dirt and poured some chalk in this very particular pattern. It's like a spiral with some triangles and some other spirals around it. You'll see these sometimes if you go to like flow

to river or something. And for a long time people thought they were cool like to see these things drawn on the ground, but then we learned later that they're actually bad for the environment, right? Right. Yeah. And they're made up.

Chicoetay is called over to take a look at this by Tuvac and Nelix, and in looking at it kind of flashes back. And we meet young Chicoetay and his dad and a couple of other guys and they are kind of trudging through a jungle. Chicoete's dad looks like he got the knockoff Indiana Jones costume. Like they can't use the branding of Indiana Jones. So it's just called like archaeology hero or something like that. Yeah. And I mean, you recognize this guy right? He's one of the admirals from the Nobunz episode conspiracy. Oh man, yeah, he sure is.

He's the Vulcan Admiral who's been nobbed. He's hearty brother. Reles, you new buddy. The Skyspirates must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. Great to see him again. Like that face, I'll never forget that face. The sky spirits must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. Great to see him again. Like that face, I'll never forget that face. Mostly because I'll never forget that episode.

He's kind of trying to pass along the ways of his people to young Ticote, who is playing the role of the teen that is just not into the same shit his dad is into. Like, yeah dad, golf is your hobby. I don't care for it. Kind of a vibe here. It seemed as though another thing this actor wasn't into was using his own voice. Did it seem like all of his dialogue was looped to you? Oh, I wonder if that was because they were shooting by a river and it was not usable audio from the location

or... That would make sense, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe it's somebody else's voice. I didn't read anything about that. Douglas Spain, the actor who plays Young Chico Tay, I thought, like has that resting, God, dad is so embarrassing face, you know?

Yeah. Like, please do not start a full-on conversation with the server at the restaurant, okay? Yeah. So, we learned in this scene that they're looking for a tribe in this region that are descended from the ancient rubber tree people, which is kind of the English translation of the word Olmeck, who are a real Central American tribe. Whoa. Yeah. Do you think they accidentally got that right?

I looked up rubber people because I was like, come on, rubber people. And then I was like, oh shit, it's real. Well, the closest thing to the ancient rubber tree people that we'll ever see. This is the first of many, wistful flashbacks that Chico Tay goes through on this mission. And I got to ask, like, how scary is it when your exo gets that looking as eyes? I don't think it's good at all. Yeah, we always talk about the like, how long do the flashbacks take?

Yeah, you know, like, and if they're just standing there looking at him during. Would love to cut back to Nielix and Tuvac, like maybe like waving their hand in front of Chico Tei's eyes to see like, hey buddy, you still there? You still with us? I never want to get caught flashing back.

No, yeah, no. It is just very embarrassing. Speaking of being caught doing things. So a buddy of mine, we're talking about an upcoming visit to Vegas. And he mentioned that he had been practicing gambling at home. And I asked him, you know, I think it's a natural question to ask, how

does that work? You know, what precisely about gambling? Or are you practicing? And he mentioned that he was practicing rolling dice against his couch as if it were a craft stable. And his wife caught him rolling his dice. It's so heartbreaking, but I can't stop laughing. Tears are literally streaming down my face, thinking about his dumb dice. Is he rolling dice against the couch because he wants to have a cool role? Like he wants to look good doing it,

or like because he thinks he can develop some trick of the wrist to control what numbers come up. You and I took very different angles at the follow up questions. I went straight to what did your wife do? What did your wife say? How much trouble are you in? Evidently, it was humiliating. Wow.

You never want to get caught doing anything, really. You don't want to get caught doing anything where it's all in the wrist. Yeah. Yeah. So Chico de stands up from his reverie and explains to Nelix and Tufach that what they are looking at is a blessing

to thank the land for resources that have been extracted from it. And Tufach is like, what the hell are you talking about? We just found this, how could you possibly know that? And it's very like Winky Chicote to theme where he says like, yeah, something, somebody just told me one time. After the theme, we've got a pregnant Ensign Wildman who we remember from earlier episodes.

She's up in the stirrups and the doc has closed the hood, slapped the top of the car, and told her that, you know, her pregnancy pain is just something she's gonna have to endure. That's how it goes. When your pregnant says me, male hologram. Not exactly crushing it in the bedside manor game, Dr. Hollow Day. And Kess is there to kind of pick up the pieces of this. Like, Ends and Wildman is in pain and wants help and the the doc's basically telling her to rub some dirt on it and she kind of leaves disappointed and casts turns to the doctor and is like, what the fuck is wrong with you? It's kind of a strange turn for a character who not that long ago was like,

was everyone on the ship always so mean to me? You know? Like that was fairly recent when he was like, I'd like people to treat me like a person with feelings and everything. And now he's just a dick. Yeah, yeah. I actually did read a little bit about the production of this episode. And this is a storyline that was suggested by Robert Picardo. Huh. Mainly because he thought it would be fun to play sick. We talk all the time about the difficulty in playing plausibly drunk, if acting sick, where on the spectrum of acting challenges sick is in comparison to drunk even, and I don't know.

Yeah. I mean, his perspective here is interesting because he's basically saying like, we are in an emergency. Like while the ship is stranded in the Delta Quadrant, people need to step their game up, they need to accept that things will be uncomfortable for them and get the job done. That's just the way it is. And I think that that's like a pretty out of step with some of the conversations that you co-ta in the captain have been having lately, which is like,

we need to like start considering that this may be a thing we're doing for a very long time. And how do we manage that considering? And the doc is like, the only way I'm able to handle my case load is by outsourcing compassion which like does have some logical sense I guess yeah, but Kess really throws this back in his face. Yeah, she basically says like if you

If you experience this at all you would understand it. And this starts a really fun storyline that we get in a lot of mid 90s comedy TV and movies. Doc Holliday is pregnant. Yeah. There's some reason he's speaking with an Austrian accent from here on. He also has a twin who looks very different from him. So in the captain's ready room, Chicoeté explains to the captain about his vision that he had

on the planet and what it's from, what he was remembering precisely. This trip that his dad took to Earth from their colony on the Cardassian border where his dad was there looking for their rubber people ancestors. And I guess what we have to take from this is that like the tribes that they are going to meet up with is like almost all but uncontacted. Which I know that there are like a couple of uncontacted tribes in the Amazon still. Right. I don't think that there are uncontacted tribes in Mexico, which is where this would have been taking place.

But maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I guarantee I don't know what I'm talking about. I guarantee I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe hundreds of years in the future that could be true. Yeah, they like go back to being uncontacted. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we've had enough contact up until now. I think we're done.

We're done. We're done. They are definitely sketching out that idea of like the danger of contact with a uncontacted people who may have some feelings about your attempts to contact them. Yeah, there's a consent issue involved and also the specter of colonialism. It's not as easy as just like blocking them on your phone or email. Right. like blocking them on your phone or email. But but he actually has photographic evidence to show the captain. He took a picture of the diagram they found on the

planet. And he has a picture from his trip to earth back when he was a petulant teen. Yeah. And they they match the same the same diagram drawn on the ground in both places. And he starts to describe the like the sky people myth that the rubber people believed. And Janeway just starts looking looking into the middle distance like Chico Te is describing a dream he had last night. I mean, they start to do like comparative religion. Like, all of this has been like totally disproven by modern science, but, uh, but, you know, these are the old stories of our

peoples. Pretty healthy conversation between two people of, uh, of different belief systems there, you know? Yeah. systems there, you know? Yeah, and this is like more like Chico Tay more on the rational secular side of the belief system than he often is like. He is talking about it as like, you know, like not all of this is stuff that I place a ton of stock in, but I you know, it was really meaningful to my dad

and I've like tried to like stay in touch with the traditions at the very least. I think one reason why Chico Tay and Harry Kim aren't good friends right now and maybe we'll be down the road is because when Chico Tay told Harry Kim about the rubber tree people, Harry Kim was like, I two him a rubber person, I put a condom on when I go out on a date, just so I'm always wearing it. So I throw a rubber on the old tree. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Can't be too careful. Yeah.

So they've also picked up a warp signature leaving this moon, so they follow it. And they find another planet. This actually has, is showing some signs of maybe having the mineral that they're looking for, and they're scanning, they're not finding any signs of life, but they are finding some kind of interesting energy readings. So they think like maybe there's a cloaking device or something to obscure the ship or the people that are down there. And so they're like, they start transmitting like we come in peace messages and then start to put together plans for an away mission to go get a load of these minerals and see

if they can be extracted. There's coffee in the Polyfair and I, we need to seal the warp coils. And for some reason, Nelix is invited. It's this outing. I don't know if it is ever resolved as to why he's there for this. Well, yeah, you can gather plants at the same time, right? Two-Vog, BLT, and Chico Tehr had it down to the transporter room,

and the captain's like, wait, I want to make sure somebody is there to carry on about orchids while you're down there. Stop by the mess hall and grab Mr. Neelix on your way. The next scene is so frustrating because they're in the transporter room and everyone's ready to go. I wonder if they explored the idea of having them on the transporter pad and not being able to transport.

Instead, they're sort of gathered around the panel where it's been made clear that they're unable to beam down there, but it would be sillier. They're playing like transporter whack-a-mole where every time they pick a spot, a electrical storm forms in that spot. Yeah. And so they're like, fine, fuck it,

we'll take a shuttlecraft. And that's what they do. And he they're like, fine, fuck it. We'll take a shuttlecraft. And he looks like no way. So they, uh, they head down there, an electrical storm forms around the shuttle craft, which, uh, me looks as like, I can't believe they talked me into this. This is absolutely nuts. And as they traverse this storm is when Ticote has his second flashback. Yeah, and it's a truly concentrated moment of a father's unwelcome, folksy wisdom during a time of just great discomfort that the sun is having. Like, who gives a shit about your philosophy when you're being literally eaten by mosquitoes, you know? Like, there is no embracing of the bug bite here.

Yeah. It was a mistake to bring you, I'm sorry. Colour pack is suggesting that if Chico Te made peace with the bugs, maybe they would stop eating him. And Chico Te has to explain how the... How the ecosystem works. How the ecosystem works. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, we get, uh, an interesting appearance from, uh, T'Leri Cadevid in this scene. He walks in and he says, The Wondering Bear episode may be a regrettable moment in the history of my show, but this makes me look really good. Would it be racist for me to imply that Kolo Peck would know an herbal remedy for a numb vagina. Hahaha. Would you, Chico Tei's father, mind watching this, laptop?

Hahaha. I must be, on my way. Shhh. The guy you left it here ran to the bathroom. I'm sure he'll be back shortly. We cut right over to Six Bay, like, you really get the bends going back and forth from like, dust buster club to Cote,

to flash back to Cote to Six Bay, where Doc is full on overcome by the sneezes. That's because he's infected himself with the 29 hour, Labodi and Flu, which sounds way more appropriate for television than the Labido and flu, which I think was probably the first draft, right? Yeah, you're sneezing out of a different thing with that one.

Equally snotty, probably. Yeah, you're going to go through just as many clinics. Yeah, a great amount of discharge for both. Doc uses hollow tissues though. Like, we're aware of like the glittery napkin of a TNG dinner party, right? Break out the glittery rag. Yeah. For nose blowing, you're going to get a raw nose, a raw hollow nose. I mean, but this is all cubress, right? So he doesn't, he's not even sweating that he He's like, I'm gonna be hollow and comfortable for 29 hours.

Yeah. I'm gonna be as hollow and comfortable as I can be. He's really going through the tissues. Yeah, you're right. He makes extra clear to say that they're just for him. Yeah. What would happen if you blasted into a hollow tissue? It wouldn't be there.

Yeah. You just like shoot on the floor. If you blasted into a hollow tissue, it wouldn't be there. You just like shoot on the floor. If you blast it into a hollow tissue and then walked out into the hallway, looking for a dustbin, you'd be in big trouble. Oh man, that would be so embarrassing. Yeah, yeah. More embarrassing to be caught rolling your dice.

I don't even talk about that. Enter Harry Kim, who is there for an unspecified illness that we can assume is something like the Dennis Rodman broken dick. We are unable to get his diagnosis by the doc. Doc, I don't feel so good. They cut away from this scene for a reason. Yeah, what was the piece of equipment that BLT was using?

She had like a much beefier looking, like a super-try quarter almost. Like in the same way that you get the phone with the big buttons for the old people, this is, if you're eyesight's failing, you wanna go for the big tricorder. Right. So, BLT, I guess, like, forgot our contacts on the ship and had to pull the big one

from the bunk bed. They're kind of a stunned to find familiar earth-based flora and fauna here. They see a hawk in the air. They see an orchcate on the ground and this triggers another flashback uh... where uh... young chicote explains to colo pack that he has uh... been accepted to starfleet academy do you remember how hard it was for wester's crusher wester the boy the boy

young wester's crusher my son to get accepted to starfleet academy mr. mordor will be the candidate A boy, young Wesley Crusher. My son. To get accepted to Starfleet Academy. Mr. Mordor will be the candidate. His results were slightly higher than Mr. Crusher's. I do remember. I don't remember who sponsored Wesley Crusher, but it's made abundantly clear that Captain Zulu sponsored the younger Chicoete. I think you've got a little something called it. I do disliked my father.

We did not exactly seem I to act. I think you should go to San Francisco. I was born there. Alright, we all know. If I ever run into your father, he's going to be in big trouble. I'm going to simply throw him over my shoulder and crushed the roof. Scarfully the Academy accepts you at 15. Is this like running start?

Is that what this is? I don't know. It just makes me think like maybe Chikote is better than Wesley Crusher in terms of like his academics and ability to pass Kobayashi Maru like mind games. Like, no, you remember that? That what like the application process to get into Starfleet Academy included an incredibly traumatic simulation

of Wesley having to like let a guy get crushed under a girder. Yeah, what fun is in store for 15 year old Tukote from here? Is there any wonder he turned make-wease? You go through something like that. I bet the wash out rate, you wash out of Starfleet Academy and wash in to make-wease. Yeah. So in the flashback, they find like a, like a hut or like some kind of, some kind of structure and, um, and then he's kind of called out

of his reverie by Nielix getting hurt. They hear him through the forest, getting hurt, and they run up to him and that bird has clawed at his eye, tried to claw his eye right out of his head. Psh. It's a real gruesome scene. I think they did a great job with the makeup here. And with Ethan Phillips' performance too.

I was disgusted by it. What did you think of Chico Te's performance when the bird came in at his head? Yes. A really fun arm-failing. There's like a couple of cuts on him flailing his arms, and then he gets like a, there's like a superimposed image

of like a frozen man's face as the bird approaches. I love the conflict between like 24th century space people armed with dustbusters and hawk. And how they're totally defenseless against hawk. I mean, I would feel really bad to shoot a hawk, but if it had just almost killed my friend and was coming at me in the same way, I think you gotta get the dust buzz around. You can't let the hawk get a second strike in, right?

This is like one of the most devastating away-team missions in Starfleet history at the hands of a hawk. Yeah, and Nelix is dead here. Yeah. RIP. I was just surprised that they were able to emergency beam Nelix up. It seems like you can beam up, but you can't beam down.

It's like a one way filter. I thought the same thing here. Like, good thing that we can conveniently do this. In this moment. Yeah. But they find a structure, not really like the one that a young jicote found on earth, but much more modern materials, kind of structure here in the forest. And kind of a modern raw material construction technique here.

Yeah, yeah, maybe 3D printed. Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. The doctor explains to Neelix that his eye could have gotten snatched if he wasn't a little bit luckier. The doc is sneezing and stupid Neelix thinks that he can catch the holographic illness. I don't know, man. If your hollow doctor is sneezing into your empty,

ocular cavity, I think you'd be grossed out by that, too. Yeah, I guess so. If the doctor is a really convincing hologram, it's probably hard to keep at front of mind that he's not really there. I wonder if the same technique deployed to fix Neelix's eye is similar to what he used to fix Kim's dick. We have no spare, to like see an eyeballs.

It's a real sturdy flesh. Mm-hmm. Going into the hole there. They cut some of the beginning of that scene where the doctor is like waving the light over Neelix's eye and he's like, oh shit, I need to clean this off. Hold on one sec. On the bridge, Chicoote thinks the people of the planet left pretty quickly and everyone

thinks it's a little strange that a warp capable people slash society choose to and then there's like a gesturing around, live like this. Which is pretty disparaging toward Chico Te and his people, I think, in that context. Yeah. Because all he's done is talk about, you know, how he has very nostalgic feelings for what he's seeing down there. I mean, they've got this, they've got a beat on this,

on this mineral that they want, and they're like, well, if somebody lives on this planet, we do want to make sure it's cool with them if we extract some of this. Yeah, there's like a lake of ship diuretic just under the surface. Yeah. They want to stick the straw into and get. Trichotty reports that he's been seeing this face. And this is another episode. There's been a bit of a rich tradition in season two now of characters being pretty quick

to admit that they are suffering delusions and it being met with like zero judgment or even concern of their fitness for duty. I can totally get with the non-judgment zone here, but I think we got to take some time off if we're seeing things that aren't there. I mean like he gets off the radio with the captain and it immediately orders TuVoc and BLT to drop their phasers on the ground and they're like, hey, aren't you the guy that just admitted that you're experiencing shit that's not really happening? Maybe that's a terrible idea. I love this cut though, because when they set down their dustbusters, what we see are old-ass

phasers being set down by the walk about group because we tilt back up and see that's who we're with suddenly. And the people that come out of the forest in this moment are not totally human. They have loaf. They have loaf and they're wearing rubbers around their genitals like already. Nothing I've been told about these people is correct. Probably the first time we've seen an erect penis with a condom on it on Star Trek. Yeah, won't be the last though. It's basically every other scene in Discovery. So this is one of those modern

people meet primitive people, scenes where the little touch and go, some spears get thrown until Colo Pack is able to draw the spirally design on the ground for them and demonstrate that they're friends, demonstrate that they have some familiarity with their culture. He draws the cool ass into the dirt. You see what this is, right? It's pretty cool. You into middle school. And finally, we start to get some, some subtitles for the spoken language of the,

of the rubber people. I guess they're like the descendants of the rubber people. I mean, like there are people who are Olmech in Mexico like that have Olmech heritage that don't have giant forehead ridges like these guys. Son of rubber people doesn't even make any sense man. What was the rubber even for? I feel like it's like a weird choice that they have loaf. Are they supposed to have like alien genetics or something? I mean, we hear the story later. Yeah.

This is a moment less about why the rubber people have loaf and more about young Chico Tei seeing his father, who he thought was a total dorkess up until now. Do something cool. Which is get a face tattoo, like within 30 seconds of meeting these people. Like, Chicoote's dad is the one who doesn't really party anymore since college, but who gets invited out to the bachelor party

and is like, all in. Yeah, yeah, dad away from family level of party energy. Yeah, yeah. But Chicoote, the younger, does not feel the same way in this mixed company. Like, there's a moment where like they're closed, they're ripped from their bodies, and they're being redressed by the rubber people.

Chicoote doesn't want this. Yeah. He's got his eye on the Starfleet Academy prize. He's like, no, I spent my own money on this that urban outfitters. I don't want your dumb clothes. I know I'll wash it once and it'll just turn to ashes, but I don't care.

So they've put their phasers down and the wind starts to pick up back in the present. And they decide to make a run for it. They got to run back to the shuttle. They're running like trees are coming down here in the Sears Garden Center that they've beamed down to. And one of them, K.O.'s Chicoeté, right after seeing a person running around with the same loaf as the rubber people in the flashback.

So, Tuvac and BLT get emergency beamed out, but because this tree knocked his con Badge off, Chicoete is stranded here in the Garden Center. We're here in our local home improvement center, where we've been locked in after closing. No one knows that we're here because we've been rummaging around in the steel looking for some super straight lumber for a project we're working on later. Fortunately for us, Jen Newada has joined us on this adventure and she's going to show us what some of the edible plants are in the gut and center Again, we've talked about the difficulty and act drunk

We've talked about the difficulty and act sick and now Perhaps the greatest acting challenge acts like a tree is falling on me An extreme challenge for any actor very hard to sell when the tree also has to fall in a way that doesn't actually hurt you. Right, yeah. That had to be a fun day on set. Like they're just dropping trees on Robert Bell to ran for an hour. Yeah, it's the same challenge as picking up a boulder

that's made out of styrofoam and trying to make it look heavy. And I mean, not terrible, it's fine. This is the difficulty that Tuvak and BLT have in describing the scene to Janeway on the bridge. They're like, look, we saw a tree come down on Ticote. It looked weird. Like, I couldn't tell if it were too light for its size or maybe it just made out of something

that we're unfamiliar with, because we're in a weird planet, or like it wasn't blowing down so much as being lowered. And like, Ticote sort of caught it in his hands, and then brought it towards his chest. I don't understand what could have happened to him. Janeway is just as bewildered by this as anyone else. She decides to lead a dustbuster club back down there.

The shuttle is missing. They can't find it. And so she's like, well, this is as good and excuse as any as I've had to get off the bridge all day. We're going down there. We're going to get some answers. And she's trying to march off the bridge when Doc Holliday radios up to the bridge

in a great amount of distress because he is still sick and his 29 hour illness is still in effect. 30 hours in and that's the concern. He's like, I thought I set it up so that I'd know when this thing was gonna end. Yeah. He's freaking out. You know set it up so that I'd know when this thing was gonna end. Yeah. He's freaking out. You know, Cass is trying to help calm him down.

It's got to be some problem with the program that he wrote for his illness. Harry Kim is sent down there to look after him. And he's like, oh, Doc, yeah, I got him. Love that guy. He helped me with my broken dong. Harry, your penis works now, right? Put that thing to work.

But but Harry Kim is, uh, is just turned into an audience for this moment. Yeah. Because Cass has put the doctor into the ball kicking machine. Yeah. She's doing bits on sickness. Yeah. And it's great. She extended the illness just a little bit because it's not a fair test if you know exactly how long you're gonna be ill Yeah, and I love Harry Kim laughing in the doctor's face in this moment Great he's got that fixed dick energy

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I hate having to stand in line. And boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short necks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this line. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, it's about historic humanity.

Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ohno Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that.

And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, still under that tree though. Yeah, so he gets out from under it and heads back to the structure and he's kind of talking to the structure, and he's kind of talking to the forest. He knows these people are, you know, in listening range.

And remembering the costume change that his traveling party went through in his Earth expedition, he decides to change into the local clothing of these people. I don't believe this. You're going to put that thing on and parade around like one of them. Which is a local back zip.

It's a type of pajamas that, you know, he doesn't have any, they help him get the zipper up. And I think that's very impressive. That's what I was thinking. He turns around and I'm like, is this like a wetsuit with a zipper and a long, a long pull?

Like a lanyard on it. I was thinking about how funny it would be if the thing just did not fit him. Like, at all. Yeah, this is for like a five foot three woman. Whoops. Let me just get back into my other clothes. I'm not going to be able to get in this. This display of nudity is extremely confident that Chicoetay.

And it made me wonder why they wasn't a nude Chicoetay playmates action figure. Maybe there is. Maybe that'll be on an upcoming mail call that somebody will find one of those and send it in. I love how the scene is blocked. They do like the Austin powers thing of the things in the foreground covering them up. There's no, there's no Starfleet Merkin that we know about at this point. No. Um, they decide to land the entire ship. They're not, they're not doing just a little away mission after all.

They're gonna, they're gonna go to blue alert. Uh, but before long, it's actually red alert. The storm kicks up so much that it knocks a nurse on dampers offline, the ship is running out of power. They need BLT to like reroute something and it's like they are falling fast enough that they'll be dead in 10 minutes and she needs 20 minutes to get it done. I love what TuVac does here, like, made emergency. He calls it like you see it. The aliens have been able to intensify their response now that they are familiar with our capabilities. He's like the guy in an elevator that's falling and he's like, I think something's wrong with

the cables of this elevator. Hahaha. But Chicote, Trapes has passed some lightning and finds himself in some Star Trek caves, where he starts to hear the ancient language of the rubber people. And out from one of the tunnels in this cave comes Richard Fancy, a real vet guy. One of the great names. One of all the time his names. Dick Fancy.

Yeah. I mean, Chico Tees got to apologize here. The only words he knows are bathroom and library. He just cannot communicate with this person. But he's able to make the diagram. He's been trained in drawing shapes in the dirt. And that works for Dick Fancy, who finally, he rummages around in his pockets and finds

a universal translator and gives that to Chico Tay. And they're able to have a conversation. Yeah, and this guy has rolled in with a posse, right? So like the expectation I had at least was like, these guys built their four out of these ancient raw materials and they're wearing, you know, like back zip robes or whatever, like, but they also have warp capabilities, so that's weird. But like the Pasi has phaser rifles. Yeah. And the lead guy has the same tattoo as Chicoate, which he can't, he can't wrap his mind around and is really sad to learn that while Chicoate understands himself to be a descendant of the rubber people.

He doesn't have any special supernatural memory of Dick Fancy's people. Which he's supposed to have, right? Like they're called the inheritors, I think. And the story he tells is us like we are ancient aliens who traveled to earth and gave a special gift of language and culture to the progenitors of the rubber people and they like moved out of the Arctic, which is where we found them for some reason,

down to Central America, where they started a civilization. And then like, you know, we've been checking back in on them like every, you know, several dozen generations. And we've found that they got really royally fucked over by all the other humans on Earth. So we just assumed you were all dead. The hubris of this story is amazing.

The history of the Native American people slightly abridged. With explanations for their diaspora or whatever. Right. Whoa. Yeah. I mean, like, there's a lot of like fun made of like the ancient aliens guy on history channel and stuff, but that is like a, that whole line of inquiry has a pretty racist history, which is

like this theory from the late 60s about how are all these amazing ruins discoverable in parts of the world outside of Western Europe. Well, maybe the pyramids were made by aliens and not people. Oh, like the racism is like, there's no way those people were smart enough to do that without some sort of alien intervention. Yeah, there's a book called The Chariots of the Gods that is the kind of, I mean, I don't think I like came up with it,

but he like formalized it as a theory and it's like, um, pretty like wanting the power of that from you, but you say you're on your third reread, so listen, man, all the pages are stuck together at this point. It's not gonna be as much use to you unless you walk it out of the holodeck. Benjamin Dahr Harrison jacking off to chariots at the gods. But as if this episode didn't give us enough to have misgivings about, like that is like, I mean, but it's also like a thing that sci-fi loves to explore. Like it's also the engineers in Prometheus and like it's, I think they're good and bad ways to do it and I don't think that this is the worst way. I don't think it's beyond redemption or anything. And I think there's a lot to recommend this episode also, but I think that it's a bit unfortunate that this story like definitely arrives due to that tradition.

And I don't know. I just I felt like I know we like didn't want to make this an episode about that kind of shit, but I think it's worth pointing out. Yeah. It's always worth taking a tour of your bookshelf, Ben. I think one of the most interesting things about this scene, though, is that, like, colonialism and war, and the bad shit about humans wiped out the rubber people, and as far as these guys could tell, caused them to disappear from the face of the earth. And when the Voyager showed up at their planet with a message of we come in peace, like they did not interpret that literally. They interpreted it as the message of conquerors.

And I think that does serve to turn this on its head a little bit. Right, and I mean, that is an unsurprising takeaway by you Ben. The main takeaway that I got from this moment is like, hey, they're wearing the same tattoo and Chicoete and the rubberman or the sky spirit or whoever this guy is might be, you know, cut from the same cloth or whatever, but like they not the same. And just because they look alike and are from the same group of people, they seem surprised, at least the elder rubberman, seem surprised that Chicoete can't get on his level about this.

It's a big disappointment, but Chicoete is able to convince him that their intentions are entirely noble. And no sooner has that been accepted than the storm that is causing the Voyager to plummet toward the planet's surface ceases. And they're able to stabilize and get their inertial dampers back and everything. I really like all the shots of the spinning Voyager. able to stabilize and get their inertial dampers back and everything. I really like all the shots of the spinning voyager. That's fun. That was great stuff. I saw those effects and I was like, I bet they are going to reuse these.

Yeah. The ship spinning toward a butthole, just like recolor those clouds and throw a little lightning effect in and that's a nebula, you know. So this is like the breakthrough that chicote has with the with the sky spirit dissolves the tornado. The storm has gone and suddenly like the settlements are the population is visible like the cloak is off. They're getting a population reading on their sensors It seems like finding Tricote is now possible too. Yeah, these guys don't have any special fast travel technology that he explains that their trips to earth take

two generations there and and back so that's a drag but he is able to help them out with a supply of this mineral, not as much as they had hoped, but enough to make a difference. And it's like, hey man, really glad we could catch up. Good to hear the news about the inheritors. We'll make sure to poke our heads in in the next couple dozen generations. There's a very animated energy at the end of this scene, though, which is like they've bonded, and it's good. And Chico Te tells this person of how it is dead-dad, and how he died fighting, which is something the sky spirit can respect. And

Tuvac enters Duspuster out. And this, like, it's a very benign look, like you see a dust spuster club with dust spusters out exploring a home and garden center all the time. But it looks grotesque in this context after experiencing this bond form between Chicoote and the sky spirit. And when when Chicoote approaches with it out, the look that Chicoote and the sky spirit. And when Chicoote approaches with it out, they'll look that Chicoote flashes him is like pure anger. Yeah. And I really like that part of the story and the performance. I do too.

I think that you're right. Like it's so hard to see phasers in a different way, but like around this character, they're almost embarrassing that they carry them everywhere they go. If you want a party with us to Valky get a take off that tight uniform, get yourself into one of these jumbo backzips. Very flowy. Very comfy. Start John S is on the ground with us. You know how to do it. Do you think Bill Tilly is going to be able to Photoshop some dirt to have the cool S on it?

I'm positive. Positive. The symbol which is an S. Two Valk knows it well. Kind of an abrupt end to this one because because when Chacote looks up at the hawk, there's this moment where you finally feel like he's come full circle. You know, he mentioned something about

finally being able to hear the thing he's been trying to hear all these years. What is that? What is he been trying to hear? Is it is hearing the hawk a metaphor for like a greater understanding of his heritage? Is it like hearing his dad's voice? Does that hawk still have Nielix's eyeball in its talons? We cut to the nest and the hawk is regurgitating an eyeball into the nest for its little hawk chicks.

Yeah. It's probably the best meal that Nelix has ever made. And that's how abruptly the episode ends. They beam away and we get the credit, and that's it. That's true. Did you like this episode, Adam? You know, I'm really easy to get along with, close to the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like bread open mind and didn't treat it as a project.

You know, I think there's some enjoyment to be had here. I mean, look, we haven't been great big fans of Chico Tay for a long time now. Though he is back in art good graces after some very good facial expressions. Yes. A couple of episodes to go. I would say just getting in the back sip in this episode, I was like, this is fucking rules. This is great. Yeah, good Chico Tay episode.

And I... I won't say that I understand him anymore than I do now because it feels like a very cliche kind of kid doesn't understand his dad. Kid finally understands his dad by the end because he went through an adventure with some rubber people. That's fine. Whatever. But I like the core message of this thing being something like being an individual isn't antithetical to wrapping the collective good. You know, like you can still be both. Yeah. And that's what Chico Tay is. Like he he rejected his dad's old timiness because he wanted to set out and do his own thing.

But that doesn't mean that that he's just a solo operator for for everything for his entire life. He just wanted to go do and something else, and he's working for the collective good. And I think that's noble and good of him. Yeah, I mean, if we're taking that one step in, I really agree, like I think this is a good episode, despite many cringy things that happen in it, the central thrust of it worked for me,

and it's brisk, and it's complex, and I think it achieves largely what it set out to achieve, and stayed really interesting. Even if I don't agree with everything that it proposes about Chico Tei or his culture, I think it says all of this stuff in interesting ways and like gives Interesting context for like how it got to those things I don't agree with everything they're saying in this episode, but I'll fight to the death to say

Brave brave Adam. Yeah, Not all podcast heroes wear headphones. Well, I'm ready to see how many of the cool asses might be in our priority one messages this week. You want to go check out? What's in store for us there? Yeah, I guess we could do that. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on? A supplement on?

A supplement. A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. on Secure Channel. Ben, our first priority when message is of a promotional nature. It goes like this. Hey friends of DeSoto is Nielix's Delta Quadrant Quasine getting you down. Tired of the same old, replicator rations? Check out the Hot Oven Time Machine Podcast! Every other week your hosts Joseph and Monty explore the history of their favorite desserts. And then Bacon Rates said desserts!

Dang! We are covering our favorite desserts from all four quadrants of the galaxy except for who's not recipes. We can't find any of those. Do you think Kevin could point us in the right direction? I would love to point you in the right direction, but as I believe you've already come to understand, there are recipe books disappeared with the people and the ships when I sought the merit of existence. There was a time when I was friendly with the Hoosnak and we had many meals together

before I decided to exterminate them. It's a species of hideous intelligence and there's actually the first species to figure out the adding a little bit of salt to bring out the sweet idea But at a certain point you've had too many Bows of salted caramel ice cream and he just have had too much and That's when it's time to go as an entire species You know, I don't like to overeat before I go home to my fake rubber wafer shun. One of the original rubber people. So search for hot oven time machine on iTunes

Spotify, Stitcher or wherever. You listen to podcasts and subscribe. That sounds great. If you get a sweet tooth, or if you enjoy food history, sounds like that's a great podcast to check out. Yeah, yeah. Adam, our next priority one message is of a personal nature and it's from your fluffy haired amber,

and it's to my love, Jeff. Wishing Jeff a joyful 30th birthday as it's definitely his first 30th birthday. You're impossible to get gifts for, but this year you get the best gift of all. Congratulations, honey. You've officially turned me into a nerd. Happy that we could be slightly embarrassed

to listen to this Star Trek podcast together now Wow happy birthday Jeff Sounds like it sounds like you've been ringing the 30 bill for a little while now and this is also coming very late We were supposed to read this in February No kidding so maybe just save it for your next 30th birthday. Why don't you? Jeff's probably had several 30th birthday since Since February. Yeah, we can only say happy birthday Jeff happy birthday You know you get to a certain age and you become impossible to get a gift for right I think Amber sell that problem. Yeah, she became a nerd. That's the that's the greatest gift of all

Yeah, yeah change yourself for the person you're giving a That's the greatest gift of all. Yeah, yeah, change yourself. For the person you're giving a gift to, the best gift. Indeed. Ben our final priority when message is from a waffle in Belgium, and it's to Ben and Adam. That message goes like this. Thank you for bringing joy and laughter to this crazy sector of space time we live in.

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I am so angry right now. I'm finally comfortable returning to a movie theater. And you're ruining it for everyone. You know who you, what everyone you ruin it for is all of the who's knock. You as a biggest walk criminal of them all. I promised I would never do this after the who's knock. Oh this is much better. There's nothing but a wet movie theater sheet in front of me.

Finally, I can get back to enjoying the film. As it was intended, completely free of the Vichy French. Wow, so I think it's official. But Kevin Uxbridge has murdered the Vichy Frenchman. He's dead, he's gone. And he's gone forever. Oh my god. You know, with great P1 comes great responsibility. I'd be careful about what you request there.

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It's the Kote. Easy. Done. You wave your arms over your head to prevent a hawk from grabbing you instead of shooting it with a dustbuster. You get mine. You catch a giant styrofoam tree and do like a slowly descending bench press with it. Yeah, easy. Well, daily double congratulations, Chico. You got the episode and you got both Shimotas. He did so much that was Shimoto worthy this app. It almost seems unfair that he's just getting two Shimotas. He did so much that was Shimoto worthy this app, it almost seems unfair that he's just getting two Shimotas.

It was a real spectacular showing. You should get a bunch. Yeah. Alright, well Adam, why don't you head over to the game of Buttholes, the real of the caretaker at gach.bizslashgame. And I will tell you about our next episode here on the program. It's a season two episode ten, Cold Fire. Kess makes contact with Ocampa Spacefarers and the female caretaker who may have the

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Couple boxes ahead. We've got a the caretaker episode. So that would be that would be very interesting. Co-inced dental. Yeah. Alright, Ben. Got the dye in my hand. Roll them. I've rolled it to Shula. Did I win? Which has obligated us to a regular old episode next week and puts us on the doorstep of that caretaker. Wow. Well, safe and sound for the moment. That maybe feels even more appropriate, the doorstep of a caretaker.

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