The Greatest Generation - Lower Dorks (VOY S1E15)

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

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Just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranaka. I'm Ben Harrison. I've been editing video this week for the first time in... Oh no! Are you leaving the show? Did you get a real job? What the hell is happening?

I thought I would dip my toe back into video production just to see if I still quote unquote had it. This is like a later era Rambo film where it's like, I'm out of the game, I'm not coming back for you or anyone and then like a thing happens and you're forced back into the game. This is the version of Rambo. We're still alone, sits down to a non-linear editing machine and like updates the software to stuff he hasn't used in like three years and everything's different.

And the thing is, his mind is no longer the perfect weapon. These rocket lunges don't work like they used to. Oh man, yeah, I started my project with a good long update to the software. Thanks Adobe. And then I get in there and all the furniture's moved. Man, this is like working with, with Premiere used to be the vacation house I went to all the time. I knew where all, I knew where all the fixtures were, all the switches, everything.

You need a bread knife? I know where there is one. No, I'm like, I'm cutting my bread with a fucking spoon. And I'm on a deadline with this project. And it like, like the thing that remains sharp with me is the thing that irritates you the most by working with me or anyone else. It's like the producer director working with me or anyone else is like the producer

director side of me is like finally honed. Like I don't think that's ever going away, but the actual practical sit down and make a thing using the tools of the trade. Yeah. If you're not current on that stuff, it changes so fast. It really changed fast. And I, I mean, I was a video professional for more than a decade. And I took two years off. Now I'm a dumb. How do you stay sharp? You still work video, right? No, I haven't, I haven't edited. In a long time, I, man,, man, we went to our first like everyone

at this thing is vaccinated thing over the weekend. Well, yeah, I'll tell this and then we should tell people what you were editing. I was at a wedding and it was a small wedding, 10 people, I was one of 10 and the groom. proportionally that matches up with your bachelor party, which was three. Right. Yeah, it was the same deal. The host, the house that we were that we had the wedding at was the husband is a painter,

a fine artist, and somehow my job came up. And I said, yeah, so like for the last five years, I've been a full-time Star Trek podcast, and he's like, man, you don't come back from that, do you? That's a fucking A. And then you just, if you put on that thousand-yard stare. Yeah, and I was like, I like my job. I'm not gonna take this as an insult, but also the fact that that is the first thing

that that guy thought of when I said that is very funny to me. The thing that hasn't changed is how much I care. I thought when we got into this game, that it would be chillin' the most. Yeah, yeah. It would be layin' back in the cut, talkin' about Star Trek with my friends.

All I did was make this, like the job that I previously had with all of the seriousness and time associated. So this was you were editing the time lapse videos for our big destroy the Falcon 2 destroyer the Coliseum livestream, which as of this recording is just a couple days away. Yeah. It's coming up for us. It's already happened for y'all. which as of this recording is just a couple days away. Yeah. It's coming up for us.

It's already happened for y'all. Yeah. I think what we'll wind up doing is recording that and having the video live on our YouTube page so that people can watch it for posterior. That's a good idea. We got a lot of moving parts. You're doing all the video editing. I'm doing all the construction. I've been hanging curtains and building pedestals for the Lego kits to sit on.

You know, there's something very different about building something from scratch versus modifying something that exists. I think a lot of my handy skills around the house are much more oriented to that second category. I was like, I need to make like three-dimensional rectangular objects and I was like, how the fuck do you even do that? Like I think of a carpenter saw the way I built these

pedestals, they would laugh their ass off at me. Has this old house helped at all? No, because they're never like building a box, you know? That's my point exactly. And, you know, I think that if I'd like recently built a tree house with my dad, my skills may have been a little sharper for this, but much like you sitting down to a video editing

software package, I was just like, I have no idea how the fuck to do this. There's no going back. That's what I learned this week. I thought I could go back. I should probably take down my website. I'm not doing that work anymore. Yeah. I don't know. Well, we do this now. Yeah. Yeah. We really do, and I'm happy to do it, but I think the tension in the system was hanging on to both sides. I'm ready to let go, I think. That's great for my head, Dad. That's very healthy. I mean, like chill in the most. I'm going to go back to video, Ben. This is it.

Oh, I see. You're getting rid of this set. Sorry. I, what this show has taught me is that a huge amount of my work stress is stress that I'm bringing to the table rather than, then, stuff that is coming at me from the work. Yeah. I feel the same way. I operate the same way. Well, do you want to see if we can release any stress from the crew of the Starship Voyager, Adam?

Oh, yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to dump it all over the top of this episode. Ben, it's the season one finale. Can you believe it? 15 episodes done. It's, it's amazing to me that we're here, but here we are. Yeah, so much to gain from watching the first season of Star Trek Voyager. It's been a learning curve. Also the title of the show. Rebirth course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo doots, I'm not turning around. We get another Mrs. Davenport on the holodeck cold open here. Yeah, it's going to be like the McBain thing

and the symptoms where you can cut it together to tell the whole story out of like 30 episodes. How do you sleep at night? On top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies. Yeah, eventually Captain Janeway is gonna dabble and stand up comedy. I would love that, That'd be really cool. Did you ever notice how men always leave the toilet seat up?

It's unclear what she's about with her free time though. I still maintain, I think, a couple of data points equal a trend that she's selecting this Mrs. Davenport thing to make herself uncomfortable. She's putting herself in the boob-kicking machine and like, and subjecting herself to these asshole kids because like, no one's going to be an asshole to her on the ship. Oh my God, fuck these little brats. These kids, I hate. Great casting, like the kids do great kid work here. Is being the sort of brats you wanna throw out a window.

I feel like I've seen the boy before. Is he? Are these kids just recycled kids from the Nexus? Or are these? Oh, that's a good call. Were these Picard's children in there? Yes, Holy shit! Wow! Thomas Picard and Henry Burley are the same actor.

I fucking knew it. Did you just trick me by saying that? No! I didn't know it until you confirmed it. That's great! Papa, help me build my castle. Lindsay Han plays Beatrice Burley. She is in a second season episode of Star Trek Voyager. So we'll see her again. Wow.

But she is not the one who says, thank you for the dolly. P-Papa. These are my children. Yeah, these kids, they want their rank in the purage to be observed at all times. They think that Janeways and Adiate for not being fluent in spoken Latin. The little girl starts talking about giving like a,

she drew a couple of ninja turtles on a piece of paper and gave it to their mom. And little Lord Burley is like, shut up, sis, don't tell her about that. And I'm like, is this really gonna start to turn out to be like a ghost story or something? Well, if Mrs. Davenport's job is sort of like taking care of the house and the kids,

she's gonna wanna know if the mom is dead or not. So she knows if she has to make another bed or not. Yeah, right. Like it's a work thing. If she's cooking dinner for the whole gang, she's going to need one for Lord Burley, the son, the daughter herself, is there a fifth person that will need to have a full meal? Yeah. Beatrice, having just joined the dead mom's club is having trouble coping with this situation, but she gets so upset, and her brother gets so upset at her

that she just sort of poofs. Yeah. And then he poofs. They vanish, and it was a very like peaked, emotional moment in the story, and I really loved the way Kate Mulgrugh played the like, my game just crashed, and it was like an important moment

in the game. Kind of a vibe like she's telling the computer to bring the characters back. And there is a little desperation in that like I thought this was just starting to get good. The kids were really trying to stick it to me. Yeah, and that's all you get basically from this scene. She asks the computer what happens. The computer says there's a power failure. She radios up to the bridge and to co-chase. Like, yeah, we're sending TuVak to check it out because he's our security person and our chief engineer.

Yeah, it is the fact that there's a little rattle in the engine is suspicious and not just like something we need to take the ship into the shop for. Yeah. So Tuvac is on it. And in the corridor, he finds an open panel. Like one of the fun parts about this ship is that you would take a panel off of it. You can just crawl right into the wall.

Yeah, wall is a hollow. He's about to crawl in there when somebody comes out. This is Cruman Dolby, who we can tell is a make-wease by the non-pip ornamentation on his collar. And you can tell by his name that he'll die in Harry Potter's arms at the end of the episode. This guy looks like a lot like Alex Karpowski that actor from Girls. Oh, yeah. Maybe I work nights, maybe I'm a creative type. Who doesn't invite you a nine to five schedule?

You don't know. He really gives Tuvak the business here. Like he's got this like gel pack that looks like it's had all of the the Windex replaced with human feces. And he's like, yeah, something was wrong with this pack. So I just went in there to check on it. And two vakers like, you were not like dispatched to work on this corridor, like what's going on. And he's like, well, I was just like, I was in the area. And I thought I'd help out. And two vaks takes great umbridge with this.

And crew and Dolby is not the type to have umbridge taken with an act that he did in good faith. I was just trying to do my job and every minute of every day I regret it. I really like this performance. Armand Schultz does that aggro version of just trying to help energy. Yeah. That is so uniquely threatening in and of itself. God, it's chilling. It's interesting casting because he's not like a tough looking man. Like he's not a guy that you would cast to be like a scary dude that you don't want

to meet in a back alley. He looks like a guy that works in your office that you're thinking is maybe in IT or something. I'm not really sure. I've never talked to him. You wouldn't think Michael Douglas could do falling down, but he did it, right? And so, like, Dolby has got those falling down vibes. Like, if he were to snap, you could see the discapable.

And that's the energy here, right? Is like, fuck around and find out too, I don't play that shit. I fixed this fucking gel pack and now I'm gonna walk away. And if you have something to say about it, say it to my fucking fists. I taped two phone books to my traps. If you even try anything with my neck.

I like to see the gel pack in this episode. Yeah, they talked a little bit about the gel packs and the bio-neural circuitry in the pilot episode of this show, but it's not been gone into much, in much detail. And we get a lot more of the practical meaning of these gel packs in this episode in a cool way. We come back from the opening credits in a McLaughlin group. If you walk where they are discussing that very thing, the limited resource that are the gel packs.

There's coffee at those gel packs where aren't that many left on board. I can't remember how many they said and I'm not going to look it up at them, but it's not a lot. And they don't get to replicate them. They're like the photon torpedoes. There's a counter, and it's counting down. I was just gonna draw that comparison, like maybe when they need a torpedo, they just shoot one of these jail packs out.

It's from time to time. Maybe they're interoperable. Hmm, that'd be nice. Or are they like the paint balls of the ship to ship combat world? Oh yeah. Yeah, you want to do a more game. You want to shoot these gel packs. Yeah.

Yeah. This is paying off the promise of something we learned in the very first episode. We learn about the Voyager that it runs off of these gel packs. It's a brand new technology. It's great. It's super efficient. Things work faster and better. But when you wing the ship off to another quadrant, you're too far away from your mechanic to do anything about problems like they're having. So they're having to try to figure this out as they go. And one of the plans proposed is like maybe we go back to an isolinear chip way of doing ship. What would be the problem with that?

A chip way to ship. That would a great idea. Just go to, it's like, yeah, we could like run the ship on motor oil or something. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I had this conversation with my parents the other day because they were thinking about getting a new car and they test drove an electric one,

but then they were like, but what if there's an earthquake? What would do if there were an earthquake? And we couldn't charge it. And I was like, great question. I don't know if there was an earthquake and you couldn't get gas, you would kind of have the same problem, right?

And they were like, yeah, well, I just don't know. It doesn't seem so. What would happen if I got a flat tire? I just don't even know. What't seem to. What would happen if I got a flat tire? I just don't even know. What if I left leftovers from a seafood restaurant in an electric car bin? But what if we went to the local alternative rock stations, summer festival and left a bunch of stinky food in the trunk?

What's an electric motor gonna do for us in that kind of scenario? Yeah. This is one of those meetings where there's a lot on the agenda. It's not just these jail packs. It's also the personal problem, AKA Dolby. Yeah. So the discussion is basically like there are a bunch of make-wee sunpour that never really got the benefit of the Starfleet Academy way. Once they run out, that's it. We can't replicate new ones. They don't operate by the same playbook as the Starfleets,

and there's some friction that's just developing because an assumption will be made, oh, this guy will handle this or this guy won't do that. And then the opposite happens, and all the Starfleets are like, the fuck? Yeah, yeah. I mean, any middle school will tell you that the most effective presentation

at the all school assembly is the scared straight one, right? You get the kids who have been to Juvie to come in and tell you what's going on. Captain Janeway really fucked this up by thinking two of us would be the choice for this. It's obviously BLT should have taught this class. Yeah. Because she's already been through the program basically.

And she like doesn't take shit the way two Valks does. Yeah. It should have been BLT in a in a morgue style setting with a white blanket drawn over the gel pack. She pulls it back and says, this is what happens when you drive a starship drunk. Yeah. They like land a helicopter inside the cargo bay.

Like kind of a lot of money and time went into this presentation. Yeah. But that's what makes it memorable. The scene where they decide what to do, which is basically set up a Montel William style boot camp for the bad kids from the make-waste team. Lean the crap out of my life, lean the crap out of my life.

You can tell Jicote is loving the fact that Tuvac is put in charge of it. Yeah. Because even he knows he should be teaching this class. Yeah, he knows, while he also just knows that this job sucks. Yeah. And I wish I wish he'd been like a little smuggler and then Janeway had turned to him and said, Chicoete, you choose who's in that class and he'd been like, no, dammit. You know? Yeah. The fact that it has to come from him

has got to be annoying to him, right? He kind of wants to stay in these people's good graces and now he's just gonna look like teacher's pet. Yeah. The first training session in the Cardgope does not go well. Enterprise, we meet our four candidates. We got Dolby, who we already know.

And then we got this boolean named Chel who won't judge his fucking mouth. And then we have a Jérône, a quiet Bajorin youth, I would say. He looks like, I don't know, teenage or maybe? I don't know. Yeah, they say he's kind of a young kid. And then we got Henley, the lady.

And they all bring their different personality types to this thing. But every distinct personality hates TuVak. Yeah. It's kind of the Mayquise Breakfast Club, with these characters. And TuVak is like, he's got the bullion, like, doing laps around the cargo bay pretty quickly. But you can's got the bullion like doing laps around the cargo bay pretty quickly. But you can't, I'm just. 40 laps around the cargo bay.

For sassing essentially. It is like in pretty short order that Cruman Dolby has a full-blown mutiny going. Yeah, it's so not a surprise coming from him. It all comes from that first scene as a setup. You know he's got this gear in him. And you know Tuvac has this in him too. He just continues to eat that shit.

He does, and he doesn't know what to do with it because like, I mean, like the case is made like, oh, you taught at the Academy for 16 years. You love teaching young cadets how to be star fleets, but these people don't wanna be star fleets, but these people don't want to be star fleets. Everybody that goes to the academy presumably is going there not under Geras, but these people have no choice.

Chill gives a real Chris Farley walk out of the room. Like he's the last one to leave and he just does that like hitched it the waist. But walk that is just big, big fun. So far as I'm concerned. And then he walks down the hallway to the holiday actually and he says, computer run program,

kill one, vand down by the river. In the mess hall, the assembled cadets. Can I propose a collective name for these cadets? Sure. The lower dorks. I'm into it.

Lower dorks. Because it really does feel a lot like that episode anyway. I feel like that's the name. That should be the name of our show about lower dorks. So. So. See, now it's a freebie. Now someone is gonna do lower dorks and.

Yeah. You know what, that's just part of our job though we put good out into the world yeah ideas are cheap executions what's hard yeah fucking a so the lower dorks are sitting in the commissary talking about what just happened kind of some mixed feelings about the scene before and then chicote comes in and he cool teachers, Chell's chair right out from under him. This was amazing. Like like Chacote's whole thing in this scene was wild to me. Because he comes in, there's like a drink waiting for him. So presumably he like chow now,

to his beverage order on his way down to the mess hall. He grabs the drink, comes in, like assumes that Chell is going to stand with his arms crossed behind him, listening in while he talks to Dolby about what went wrong at the storage bay. We're just not going to be treated like teenage cadets. You remember when George McFly

like got it up to Asquileray now and he goes into the diner and he's got that big George McFly energy and he like asks for the chocolate milk and it's already on its way. Yeah. This is Chico Te. He's got that George McFly energy. Everything is already set up for him. This is the most I've liked Chico Te on the entire series. He steps to Dolby and he says like, hey listen, if you want everything on this ship to run like a make-wee ship, we can do that buddy. Yeah. And then punch to Dolby and he says like, hey, listen, if you want everything on this ship to run like a make-wee ship, we can do that, buddy.

Yeah. And then punch this Dolby in the face when he gets lippy about it. Two little scumbags. I got your name. I got your ass. A lefty sucker punch, like coming from kind of like behind his peripheral vision.

So he like probably wouldn't even see it coming. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Brutal. I did not swim across the floor and his fucking mouth is bleeding. This is a minor detail, but I wanted to make sure I called attention to it.

The heavy breathing in this scene, I felt like was realistic to any fight. Yeah. A fight of any amount of time, it doesn't matter how short, like you really... It's exhausting. Yeah. And Chico Tay's exhausted from this entire scene. That was a good take by him.

I wondered if they were going to do anything with what Chico Tay did in the scene, like, does the captain take exception to his methods? Does he have her permission to go do this? What's the deal here? I wonder if there's a version of this script where Chico Tei is just on Dolby's ass, just the entire time, like, like,

you at best unfuck yourself or I will unscrew your head and check down your neck! Or the one where like the lower dorks pass the boot camp, but Chico Tei winds up in the brig at the end because he punched a junior officer in the face in Front of the whole crew. Yeah, that's another detail. We didn't discuss. It's not just the lower dorks here like it's Afternoon snack time or whatever. Yeah, everyone in the mess hall is like standing around with their jaws on the floor like holy shit The first officer just punched like literally the lowest ranking member of the entire crew.

They did not worry about this sort of thing with Riker on the big D. No. No. So we get Dolby Jod to commercial and then after the break, school's back in session. Right. Got to line him up, Ben.

This is drill sergeant style, right? Line them up, we're gonna do the uniform check. Yeah, they get like their text books passed out by a teacher. He says, like, pop quizzes will be happening fast and furious and you're never gonna get a warning. Now let's make sure everybody's uniform is in compliance. And the uniforms, aside from delbies are uniform is in compliance. And the uniforms aside from delbies are universally not in compliance.

Yeah, Shell has got this gold chain that could get caught in a copy machine. I'm saying, man, well, I will set a fire. Yeah, yeah. Henley's wearing a headband that looked like it was keeping her hair out of her eyes. Like, in a way that I don't know how that breaks uniform code, but it does. Jaren's got to lose the earring as as all insurance except for Rowlaren.

Now the Federation has an extremely limited tolerance for expressions of sincerely held religious belief as we've discussed. Jaren also needs to polish his boots. And I was thinking how great it must have been for Kira to have Odo around for that job, right? You never need a damp rag with Odo. Yeah, yeah, he can do the whole job. I'm both spit and polish. I can make out with you up here while the bottom half of my body turns into a whole true polishing situation. I can flood both of our basements. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Down at engineering, Dolby is actually helping

with the diagnosis of the problem with the gel packs with BLT. Mm-hmm. And she's kind of busting his chops. She doesn't really think he's got what it takes to get up to full starfleet level. You'll fail this training. Excuse me.

BLT is like, you want to be in starfleet? Dolby? You want to potentially have your face taken off? I've seen it. I've seen some crazy shit on these away teams. Yeah, yeah. If you want to get trusted with a dustbuster, that's the kind of shit you got to be willing to risk. Yeah. And this is a form of BLT's reverse psychology. She's trying to get Dolby to put in an effort by doubting the amount of effort he's willing to put in. It's interesting because she's

kind of the character that seemed like the most imbued with this kind of rebellious spirit, like much more so than any other make-ways we've gotten to know seemed to really great at the idea of becoming a starfleet at the beginning. And now she's like so bod in that she's haunting these other make-ways to get with the program. This is what makes the LTE such an interesting teacher in moments like these. And why I'm curious about the lack of opportunities for her to be like that. More often. Yeah.

curious about the lack of opportunities for her to be like that. More often. Yeah. She realizes that the problem, I mean, there's the keep having problems with power all over the ship and she's realizing that this gel pack is the first of potentially many that will start to malfunction. So she winds up taking it down to 6 Bay where she presents it to Cass and Doc holiday as their new patient. I'm aware of these devices that I've never seen one.

They got to figure out what's making these Jelpex sick. The doc breaks a rule I know you and I haven't talked about on the show yet, but I think we can be fairly certain that a Voyager rule on the list is no bits on BLT. Because the doc does a bit on BLT here, where he shows a lot of care for this patient's needs. BLT is not there for that. No, we're not observing hippo rules with bags of poop. To discuss the patient's condition in front of the patient would be a serious breach of professional etiquette.

A real Adam or Ben's wife amount of enthusiasm for this bit is happening in the moment. Does not go over well. Does not. Or pretty much anybody else that we try a bit on. No, he really likes our shit. Yeah. They got to start scanning this thing.

And I thought that another thing that they could have done with this episode was as more and more gel packs go out, maybe the doctor becomes less and less effective a diagnostician, like does it reduce his capacity if the ship's computers are starting to fail? I love that punch up because you're taking away the instrument used to solve the problem as the problem gets worse.

That's a great way to build some tension. That would raise the pressure of time. It would. You start taking his arms off one by one. I love that. It's a real bayowulf situation for the doctor and this one. His advice is to isolate these packs. Right. He's suggesting pack social distancing and pack quarantining. Yeah, because there's no cure at this point. This is like a time-bying plan that he's offering. And then like half the bionural gel packs on the ship start displaying this like toxic, anti-social unwillingness

to wear a mask or be quarantined. Like somehow their personal freedoms are more important than the lives of all their fellow bio-neural gel packs. That scene where the bio-neural gel walks into the commissary and makes a scene. It's even worse than the scene that you co-taimed by punching someone in the face. It gets real ugly. I have a breathing by punching someone in the face. Yeah, it's real ugly. I have a breathing problem. It's fucked up.

Yeah. Back with the lower dorks, TooFuck is doing that boot camp thing of making them do a really hard workout together. And this is one where they will be climbing through Jeffries tubes all over the ship and then going on a really long run. I think he says it's deck 13, then he's like cleared for the evening so they can just use it as a workout space. If you're wearing chain of command backpacks and going on a run, Ben, you got to move your

combatge out of the straps way, right? You're like, it's going to chave. It's going to be really ugly in the nipple area. And I don't know why no one moved their combat. DuVoc has his like a little bit to the side of it, but I would think you just put move the badge to the strap, right? Yeah, I mean, I would think. But maybe the biometric advantages of wearing the combat are lessened if they're on the strap instead of your body.

Oh right. It's it's not going to register that you're working out. Yeah, you're not going to get credit for the. It's like the ones your rings. You can be sweating your ass off and your combat is going to be going, uh, hey, your rings are usually a lot further along than they are today. It's so irritating to be wearing one of these exercise combat and you have to tell it when you're running and then as soon as you stop running for even a second, it's like, are you done? Are you done? You've done running, aren't you?

Yeah. Why aren't you running anymore? You're lazy piece of shit. You're not running anymore. Yeah. Yeah. If you're into production, like this is some great production strategy of, you know, they don't have a lot of sets for this. Right. So what they're doing is they're shooting things from multiple angles.

They're shooting things and then reversing the footage in some instances. Yeah. It's great. And like running so often is a thing on Star Trek that doesn't look right because you can't tell anyone to run at full speed because there's just no room to run on a Star Trek set. But everything is sold pretty well in this montage. And another thing about this scene is that, if you've got your bookend story surrounding this moment, you can make this scene as long or as short as you want.

Yeah, this is a nice thing to have in the script from a getting your edit just right. Yeah, because if you're supposed to deliver a 44 minute and 30 second episode to the network, yeah, this is where you're adding or cutting for sure. Right. I also loved the expeditionary uniforms that they had. Yeah, I mean, it seemed like they are not the the the formal pyjamas of a Starfleet uniform and they like they had their own like special shoes to go with this uniform. I got one question for you. Star Trek doesn't have a good track record of making uniforms like this, not super nut-heavy.

Yeah. And like you can barely detect the nut on these. Yeah, two-buck is the only one that's really rocking it in a bad way. Yeah. But yeah, they figured out how to loosen up the groin enough on everyone else that they're not just hanging nut. Yeah, it was tasteful. That's what you want in a garment like that. Yeah, it was tasteful. That's what you want in a garment like that. Yeah, yeah. Another thing about these uniforms is they show a passage of time through sweat until you get

like some wet collar, but they don't give you the wet butt that you know a form-fitting garment of a lighter collar would most definitely give you after a 10 kilometer run. Yeah. The run comes to an end and Tufak explains to them that he's turned the gravity up 10% on this deck, which, wow, that is fucking brutal Tufak. Pretty rugged. He's explaining like, this is starfleet, you might beam down to a planet that's got 10% more gravity than you're used to and you gotta be able to cope, you know?

You may find yourself on a planet with chafing nipples. Any extreme gravity environment. You may find yourself on a planet that is so hot that nothing can stop the butt sweat from coming through your pants. You must then decide, do you cover up the butt sweat? Or carry on with your mission? Yeah, and uh, Krum and Dolby's like, I don't believe in a butt sweat scenario, and DuVac is like,

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The gel packs are getting sick problem from a lot of different angles. It's, you know, it's, if it's an infectious disease, it came on board somehow and they're like, trying to look through the transporter records. And Kim is saying like, yeah, like we beam some weird shit on board for Nelix, but like nothing, nothing that would like appear to be a biological agent that would get our gel packs sick, like they can't figure it out. BLT is like, I actually prefer us using engineering to beam unknown substances onto the ship. And we've got containers right there for that. Chelle is in the background of this and he's got the Star Trek equivalent of the clean the bathroom of the toothbrush job.

I want that head so sanitarian swear to way that the Virgin Mary herself would be proud to go in there and take a dump. He's degassing the transporter pads with some little gadget and it's a job that Kim and BLT think is ridiculous to do with that little gadget. Why don't you use the magneton scanner? You'd be done in five minutes. What is your understanding of either the passage of time or the shift rotation of this crew at this point?

Because they just ran the 10K and now Chell is on his hands and knees on a 26 hour shift with the toothbrush. And then he's gonna run again that night. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they've run a few times now. Maybe this is like a week later, I don't know. Look, HR is never there for the employee.

It's there to protect the company. We know that. But I think Shell's gonna take this up with someone. I don't think this is right. He's just said like, Kim, you're a really nice guy. Do you think you're gonna ask around and see if anybody can have something done about this because this is fucking brutal?

Yeah. Yeah, but instead, Kim piles on. Yeah. With his own smart remark. Oh, you missed a spot. That was a nice Kim. Come on. That's the thing about the bullied.

They often become the bullies themselves. You know what the lower dorks would learn a lot from, is like a battlefield simulation. Can we see the battle bridge in torpedo bay? Oh, yes. This is the part that you knew we were going to get to. This is the part of every cadet training episode of Star Trek that I look forward to. It's the Kobayashi Maru simulation.

Right. I feel like in TNG, this would have happened on the battle bridge, but instead they've just made a holiday simulation of the main bridge of the Voyager, which I guess the Voyet, you don't call it the main bridge on the Voyager because it's the only one, right? This is not a ship that you can take the saucer off of? I don't think you can. Huh, you can't desoscer it, so why would it have a battle bridge? Would you rather have a ship that's full of biomimetic gel or have a ship that can separate the saucer. I haven't really been persuaded of the upside of the gel, so.

Yeah, me neither. It seems like a real problem. Yeah, it seems bad actually. Hey, I'm all for progress and clean energy, but hey, it's taking an easier second, okay? Let's really think this through. So you're on my parents' side on this. Good old reliable gasoline, what problem says that ever caused? Look, if I just happen to leave my leftovers in the trunk of this intrepid-class ship,

it's gonna be a real problem. Yeah, this is a pretty slight tweak on the Kobayashi Maru scenario. It's a Ferengi ship that has a distress signal, which puts them on a slightly more cautious footing because the Ferengi will sometimes play tricks on people and lure them in with, not actually in distress ships. And instead of Klingons that decloak, it's ROMs that decloak. And Truman Dolby is the captain by proxy here. And his instinct is always fight.

Anytime he is in a jam, he is throw haymakers and try and beat up the other party. And we've seen that at time and time again with his interactions with Tuvac and Chico Tay. Like he does not freeze, he does not flee. He fights every single time and they lose the Kobayashi Maru because he tries to just throw everything the ship has of these Romulan warbirds. And like one Romulan warbird is a tough fight for the D. It's two Romulan Warbirds is gonna kick the shit out of the fucking Voyager. Your first command together was less than successful.

You are all dead. I think that choice of the Ferangue as the ship needing to be rescued is a really interesting one. Because right up front, you get a sense for Dalbi's character. Like, it would be one thing if it were the Kobayashi Maru, and it's a transport ship full of innocence. Right. But there's a choice to be made with Dalbi here.

And he could choose to tell him to fuck off. But he doesn't. And that front loads the scene with, oh, Dalbi, good job, Dolby. Like maybe you are command material. And then when you see him just closing his face in the hood over and over again, like he's so stubborn. He's like the video game player that never hides behind a barrier. Like they're always out in the open shooting at you, you know? Yeah, yeah. Never uses cover. Yeah.

I'm bad at using the cover system in most video games. Right. I'm like that. It me. That's Dolby. Back at the post simulation news conference, Tuva can't get anyone to admit retreat was ever on the table. Like every single crookers in here, like they don't get it. Why don't we just jump right in? Anybody got any questions? Yeah, run away. What the fuck are you talking about?

I like that they're so unified in that too. Like it isn't the Dolby is the outlier. It's none of them as a culture ever thought that way. Yeah, but also they seem kind of shocked to be hearing it coming from a star fleet in a way. Yeah. I mean, I guess if you're the insurgent warfare mindset, like the federation just seems like very unkillable,

you know, like you never expect to win if you're taking a Mayquee ship up against a federation starship. Like, that's just, you're never gonna win. So they probably don't have a lot of experience of seeing Federation starships tuck tail and bug out. I like two vaks way of explaining this though. Like you can't you can't win the long game if you die very first thing, you know? Right. Yeah. Two vaks is

bumming out about this in the mess hall. Stuff's not going well. And the morale officer sitals up to him and offers some advice. This is Nielix's big scene in the episode. And I think that like the joke of Nielix doesn't understand how much of not a comfort he is to people is getting a little bit old. But it works. It always works when it's too hot, I think. It seems really rare that when I'm in a mood, someone calling me out on being in a mood helps. You know? Like the thing that gets me out in that mood is something often totally unrelated.

Or if I'm really on it, if I'm really on myself, I can breathe my way out of something, if I'm really on it, if I'm really on myself, I can breathe my way out of something if I'm thinking that way. But like someone else just going, hey bud, you're like, you're like moody pig pen right now. Yeah, you seem really bummed out what gives. Yeah, that doesn't work.

The funniest part of this scene to me was Nelix throwing a couple of scoops of obviously Reesacer's potato salad into a walk full of fried rice. It must be such a pleasure to be a food stylist on this show, just like... Yeah. Putting those combinations together. Yeah.

This is where they kind of like realize what the culprit is for the jail packs. And Nielix is fucking nasty ass food is killing the ship. It's basically the upshot. Everyone's actually rooting for that to be the case. So they can be some changes in the commissary. Right. So we can like, we can space him and like get back to normal food. Cool.

I think it's interesting. Like two-box needed Nielix to help him come to the realization that the reason the make-wee start responding to his instructions is they didn't sign up for this shit. And then his mind is clear enough to see what is causing the problem. But Nelix made some cheese. And cutting the cheese has been, you know, the vents near where he's cutting the cheese have been getting those bacterial spores and then that's going all over the ship.

Now everybody knows the HVAC system of a stash ship is the respiratory system for the entire crew. We're putting a hepophilter here in the intake to limit the number of spores, particles, and wildtile organic compounds that can affect not only the gel packs on the ship, but also the breathing apparatuses of the various aliens that crew the starship. Now your typical homeowner will require a hood vent of a certain size proportional to the kitchen, but in a more commercial space like that of the Voyager, you're not going to want a residential system like we have here. I don't understand how this past inspection, this is completely out of life. Of course it's long to hurt. But listen to me very carefully,

because I'm only going to say this once. After the break, it feels like the crew has swarmed the kitchen. Yeah. After this contamination, and Nielix is... maybe as bummed as we've seen him since he had both lungs removed. He feels like it's his fault, and it is, even though everybody keeps telling him it's not his fault. Yeah, I'd say just own it, Nelix. Just be like, wow, I really fucked up. It's the cheese is felt, Nelix.

I thought it was amazing that they're like isolating the cheese in this Ghost Busters containment unit and he's still fucking cooking. Like he's in the corner and they're like holding a tricorder up to what he says is lorellian pudding, which I can only imagine is pudding made from the heads of dead cling on babies. Yeah, I mean, step one is shut it down, right? Shut it down. Like, isn't that a, like, there's that moment in every episode of Bar Rescue where like,

the rat falls out of the ceiling and like, we're not doing the test night anymore. Yeah, yeah. I don't need to see anything else about how this business operates. John Taffer tumbles out of his fucking escalade and walks into the kitchen and starts screaming at the cook who's making like $8 an hour. Clean a f***ing kitchen and then we can start the train. Yeah, the shut it down did not happen, but they're like much further along toward understanding what's going on with the bio-neural circuitry. But is Tuvac very far along and figuring out what makes the lower dorks tick? Yeah, he'll have to take Dolby to the pool hall simulation in the holothic and play a little of everybody's

favorite game with Dolby and see where his head is at. See if maybe they could get to know each other a little bit better and thereby work together a little bit better. Yeah, I didn't think Tuvac's choice of sex program of Tom Peris sex program was maybe the way to build Tom Paris sex program was maybe the way to build some comradery with Dolby, but once they get down to business with one of the old French hookers, I think they're better friends for it. They work as a team. I mean, there's some troubleshooting involved for sure. Like a lot of

clasps and buttons. I didn't know that they had an Eiffel Tower in Marseille, but there it goes. Yeah, I thought we had seen all we were gonna see out of Dolby at this point in the episode. I was like, well, this is not gonna end well. I mean, it's nice to see two-vac, but Dolby is going to resist, but the way Dolby resists here really dropped my jaw. This shocked me. I think that you have to like warn your audience when somebody is going to drop something like this because Dolby is traumatized as hell from his experience in a planet that the Cardassians invaded. A reference is made to Cardassian officers raping and murdering his lover, and he is like on a revenge quest ever since.

He didn't join the Maki because he aligned with them politically. He wanted to kill Cardassians. This story was as surprising to me as McGroober describing how strange it is that Dieter von Kunt might have it out for him. Fuck you, Kunt. Dolby just is in his own world and not reading the rest of who he's interacting with. Yeah. It's a shocking scene and like, Tuvac is like, okay, man, like fair enough,

you have a very legitimate axe to grind. Tuvac's so cool though, he's like, well, I got nothing that I can trade with you. Conversationally there. Hey, Paris, do you have a bad haircut? You wanna tell Dolby about here? Yeah. And then Dolby about here? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha He's just hammering away at a gravestone. Dolby basically like mic drops the end of this story and walks out.

That's how you end a scene, Dolby. This is the third time that he has walked off on Tuvac with Tuvac just like Shrack, I'm not knowing what to do with it. Yeah, I just don't think he's that into you. Two of us. So the ship is really starting to fall apart now. It's getting worse and worse. And like bad enough that down in the storage bay,

they get a banger dropped on the ship and two of us is like, okay, training over for the day and dismisses everyone and they can't leave. The doors don't even work and they're stuck in the storage bay. But what the doctor comes up with is this is a viral infection. There was bacteria in the cheese, but the bacteria had viruses living inside of it and that's where the problem that's affecting the bionural gel

packs is coming from. And so what he is proposing is to give the ship a fever. Yeah. Sweated out. Sort of like Dr. Crusher approached the borg ship from the mosquitoes perspective. Mm hmm. Yeah. They go around the ship with phasers and start blowing up gel packs.

Yeah, I thought that it was going to be like a, like, raise the temperature to kill the pathogen thing, but it's like shoot gel packs to make examples of them. So the others will, will shape up. Raise the emotional temperature. Yeah, yeah. Fucking brutal. So there's some shit that they have to come up with to get the warp core up to 80% and then direct the warp field in at the ship and it's one of those, it's a risky move, but we're gonna have to try it and everybody watching and home is like, okay, we'll take

your word for it that it's risky. We don't really know why. There really is a lot of Star Trek talk leading up to this moment that you're just going along with. Yeah. The tension of the scene is, is there really in a death spiral as far as the ship's systems go? Like, yeah, they can't whack these moles fast enough before things get worse

and worse. And they're even losing, losing life support at the moment where they start to implement this plan So implement that they do this causes some plasma to like start venting into the cargo bay where two-buck and the lower dorks are and he orders everyone to evacuate Exactly. Jordi gets down on the ground and roll straight into the closed door. Like just gotta have it. But he kind of makes it look cool, right? He like bounces off the door,

but then kind of like pivots into a little bit of a B-boy stance. Yeah, always cool. Yeah, they rip a hatch off of a Jeffries tube and two Valkas ordering everybody to go in and Krumindalbi points out that Jaron, hatch off of a Jeffries tube and Tuvac is ordering everybody to go in and Kruman Dolby points out that Jaron the young Bajorin crew member is up on the second floor of the cargo bay and he's K-O'd up there.

He's like K-O'd in a very star trek way which is hanging over the banister. Tuvac's a stoic Vulcan which means he always has control over his emotions, but he looks up at Gera and leaning on the rail this way and he like, he chuckles. He's like, I can't even believe that really. That's how you fell down. If I get into that, needs are the many arguments and it drafts off the discussion they had in the holiday about, you know, retreat being the best option sometimes. And Chewbacca is saying, like, if we all leave, we will save the most amount of people.

But if one of us goes back to rescue him at risks, two people dying, and we can't just, we can't have that. Right. So he mind melds Dalby before leaving, saying, remember, and then puts on some giant gloves to go after Garen. Are you out of your thoughts on mind? This stunt was so impressive to me, Ben. The idea of a fireman carrying someone down a ladder, down a vertical ladder.

Yeah. I just don't know how that's done. Like I watched the scene a couple of times to get a feel for it, and it just seems really dangerous. Them falling off together looked seriously, like either of them could have gotten very badly hurt. Yeah. Doing that stunt.

Really great, don't work here. Yeah. And it doesn't work. Like they are KO'd on the floor and two valkies like trying to drag Jaron to the door, but he collapses. We cut back up to the bridge. Everybody's in a heap of sweat and the doctor radio's up to the bridge and there's a very funny pan because like we go down

to Six Bay and we see the doctor and he's like everything is a okay captain infection has cleared and the camera pans over to Cass who is as sweaty as everybody on the bridge and like boy. If that's sweaty, you're... Genevore lean sells how uncomfortable this is so well. Yeah. Great day at work for Robert Picardo, not having to apply the stage sweat.

Yeah, so they, they fires, the system's systems back up they turn everything back on Life support is back the lower dorks wedge open the door to the cargo bay and rescue Jaron and two Vock drag them out of there and The last line and these in one is let's get you two to six bay Did you like this episode Ben? Let's get you two to six Bay. Did you like this episode, Ben? JAPCHIN' NOTED, we'll do this without you. I'm on the fence about it, because I don't think it's like a terrible episode overall. There's some stuff I think could have been better about it, and some stuff I would have

changed it about it, but the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it's the last episode of the season. It doesn't feel like anything. It feels like filler. It's weird to sell, huh? It's so weird. It doesn't challenge the viewer to come back for next season, and on something about, well, we've really gotten our journey underway and we've gotten this much further toward

the Alpha Quadrant, but we've got a long way to go. Or some, you know, if you're not going to leave us with a cliffhanger, which I don't need, I, I, I super do not need the end of the season to be a cliffhanger. But if you're not going to do that, end with something that like isn't just a line at the end of it, a procedural in the middle of a season. Yeah, I think the show may have thought there was a greater emphasis on Mayque's Starfleet integration than there actually was throughout this season, because I think only if you think that that was the B story of every episode in season one,

would you think that the finale having something to do with everyone learning a valuable lesson at the end of the day? Like we got in this final scene being something that you could hang a season on. Yeah. But I think that that final scene is why I didn't really like the episode was because it was so neatly tied up into that bow and and because those words were said. Yeah. Like I like everything about the lesson, except the lesson being described at the end. You can do this without dialogue.

You can even change who does the saving to change who learns this lesson. But the GI Joe ending of it is something that really clanked to me. I think it's an episode order thing also. This should have been within the first five episodes. We needed more about there being issues of integrating the two crews early in the season.

And dude what if you move the caretaker story to this episode? What if you run all the episodes in season one out except you just skip the interaction with the caretaker until the season one finale? We might actually have figured out what brought us here, to make what brought them there the mystery that gets self at the end of the first season, and then they've destroyed their only hope of getting home. Wow.

And then that is how you set up season two. That seems viable. That's a cool idea. That's a cool punch up. I feel like you could edit it that way. Like you could make a fan edit of season one that does it that way. Yeah. But we don't have time. So somebody else is going to have to do that. Ideas are cheap. It's execution that's really hard. Yeah. I know. You know what else is cheap? Adam is priority one message.

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and it's to Michael. And it goes like this, Happy Birthday given Adam and Ben's track record, this message is very late. I can't believe it's seven years since we met. Thank you for introducing me to TNG DS9 and this podcast Now that we are raising our own little Beverly. It's not every doctor who gets to command a starship I couldn't ask for a better life partner to go through it all with love you so much Wow, that's so sweet when Jen said I can't believe it's been seven years since we met right after that cutting remark

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I wanted these two embarrassing idiots to let the world know I love you and I'm grateful to have shared the last 27 years as your husband looking forward to the next 27 years together Wow optimistic that's gonna be a long run. I love it. It's a lot of years. Congratulations, your frog prince and chicken. Big, big congratulations. The 27th wedding anniversary, of course, is the P1 anniversary. Everyone knows that. Yeah, you're obligated to get somebody to a P1. It's right. 27th. Well, thanks to everyone who got one of these P1s, and if you are P1 curious after having heard them, had to do maximumfund.org slash jembo tron to set yours up.

You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I'm just joking. Hey Adam. Tap in. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! I can't believe I'm gonna say this, Ben,

but my Shimoda's Chico Te. Wow. Just think of the day he had. He had a great day. He went to a meeting where he wasn't delegated any tasks really. Like, he didn't get, he didn't get saddled with the one that he didn't want. And that's the only task he got is name the four biggest assholes on the ship. And that sounds like a gift, really.

He makes all the funny faces in the episode and he punches a guy in the face. And it's consequence-free. Consequence-free face punch. Can you believe it? Consequence-free is a major quality of a drug charmoda situation, I think. So I'm gonna have to go with Chico Tey there. What about you, Ben?

I'm gonna go with Nelix. I feel like there's a whole constellation of reasons that Nelix was my drunk charmoda in this episode, not at least of which is the cheese that pulls all the isolinear chips out of the ship. But the apex reason, I think, for me is the lack of emotional intelligence he displays when he goes up to TuVoc. And just like, Nelix, read the fucking room. Read the room. That's like, if you are the morale officer, reading the room is like the main thing you job entails. Yeah, it didn't do it. Yeah.

And this is not the first time this has happened with two Vox specifically either. Yeah, it's like he, he's like a cargo cult for a guy. And you know, like he has, he has the idea of guy-naming people. And he has two, he just doesn't have any of the technology to actually do it. I mean, I'm going to ask a question I don't really want the answer to. But like, is that where the show is going? Like putting two Valkyneelics together as sort of odd couple, as an odd couple pairing?

There we go. I think they're much more like Q and guy an odd couple pairing. There we go. Oh, I think they're much more like Q and Gainin. Oh, okay. All right. They're always making claw hands at each other. Yeah, as they should. Well, I always make the claw hand when I roll the die at the game of Botholes.

Wheel of the caretaker. That's where our game board lives. It's where we figure out how we will be discussing the next episode in order, and Ben, while I head over there, why don't you tell us what the season premiere of season 2 is Star Trek Voyager is going to be? Season 2 episode 1 is called The Thirty-Sevens. The crew explores a remote planet inhabited by humans who were abducted by aliens in 1937. That is some vintage TOS-style star trekking right there. I was just thinking about the $5 carnival guitar guy.

Like, is that the return of him? If he's not in that episode out of my hope, they find some low mileage pit wolfies at the very least unfrozen caveman earthlings that got it. That's big fun. Yeah So that will be next week, but how are we gonna be watching it Adam? You know what square we're on it square eight two squares ahead is kind of an unusual square. It's called the caretaker square. And that means if we were to land on it, we'd have to roll again. And it takes us to like a random square somewhere on the board, right? Yeah. So, and then two squares after

that, Coco No No. So I think you know which one I'm hoping for. I am definitely hoping for... Coco No-no. I mean, I suppose even if we hit the caretaker, we could hit a Coco No-no. If we hit the caretaker, we could hit Mornhammered. Shit. You're required to learn as you play, Role. Alright, I've made the claw.

You're nothing if not persistent. And I've rolled it too, which means we've landed on the caretaker which means I get an extra roll. Whoa. On the 100-sided die. Man, a spicious for a season two episode one. Have you gotten one of these? This is our first time hitting it. Wow, alright, I've got the 100-sided die in my hand.

Okay. Okay. It's really big, like my clock and barely contain it. Hahaha. Hahaha. Look at that a roll. Roll that bone. All right, Ben, we have landed on your favorite episode type.

It's square 78 and the eighth degree. Wow. Holy mackerel. So it kind of went through a lot there on the game board. Not only are all rayon square 78, we are that much closer to a more hammered episode once again. We are vastly closer to the more hammered episode. We got thrown to the other side of the goddamn galaxy

just now. I know. And we passed all of the other caretaker squares, so it's not like we could hit another one and go back down, where? We're up here. What the fuck? Oh, man. Well, next episode, remind me to do my homework several times, please.

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