The Greatest Generation - Meaty Kings (VOY S2E21)

Episode Date: October 18, 2021

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Board of Dirt and Captain Captain Welcome to the greatest generation It's a Star Trek podcast, thank you for the guys Still a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast I'm Adam Pranica I'm Ben Harrison What do you want to talk about?

It's the Mag fun walk party. All right. You always do a fun thing, Adam, where we have a thing to do together to make our podcast and you make me feel like I am making you do it. That's the bit, Ben. Your business, Ben, and I don't need this shit, Adam. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Adam, people rely on this show, okay? It should be a utility. Yeah, why isn't the federal government paying us to do this? I know. And distributing to everyone for free.

Yeah, instead we're pimping ourselves at a block party trying to meet new people. Yeah. We're putting our best foot forward out there. We're releasing clip shows to people. If you haven't checked that out, we either have already or are about to release a greatest gem, greatest hits episode. Yeah, and an episode where we team up with our buddies over at the Dead Pilots Society and talk

about making our respective podcasts, and that should be a lot of fun as well. We should put out a cover to that episode that is like the essential hits CD covers. Like now that's what I call greatest Jen. No, like the essential collection series of CDs where it's like a photograph in black and white and then it's like the essential greatest generation. We didn't really have the bandwidth to do the essential greatest generation. We didn't really have the bandwidth to do the essential greatest discovery. And I kind of have been feeling bad about that. I feel like there's some great stuff on that show

and I wish we'd like, take in the time to mine it the way we did for this one. We've got enough viewers for greatest gen. What we need is more viewers for greatest discovery and a clip show is a great way to do that. Give people a good first bite of a show. Here's where we've been, here's where we are, here's where we're going. Here's what I'm going to do.

Here's what I'm doing. Here's what I did. Did you like that? Did you like that shit? Yeah, maybe we can get with our friends from the Discord to see if we can't pull some clips from that show and put out another episode for the greatest discovery. It's a show I'm really proud of, and especially now because we're covering such great new Star Trek, like Lower Decks.

Yeah. Maybe we'll have that ready in time for the next Max Fun Block Party if this becomes an annual event. Yeah. Yeah. I like our timing on that. We are buried. I feel like if shows were snow, I would be like, I'm trying to carve out that part under the, under the, uh, can't fucking think right now. What's the thing where a bunch of snow falls on you?

Avalanche? I'm dying, Ben. My brain is just, it's all the middle parts of a sponge, and none of the sponge itself. I think we're gonna have one of those episodes where there's only one set of footprints in the sand, but it's like one of my feet and one of your feet, and we're like soldiers that are like

hopping each other off the battlefield. It's not healthy what we're doing, Ben. No. It's not healthy to do nothing but watch Star Trek and record Star Trek and edit Star Trek. This is why I want the government to subsidize this. I want a national, I want from each according to his ability to make a Star Trek podcast to each according to his willingness to listen to a Star Trek podcast. I couldn't think of the word avalanche.

Fuck, it's a matter with me. Somebody is like a first-time listener because it's the block party in the right place. Oh yeah, let me give this a try. And they're like, wow, these guys are fucking morons. Yeah, great. I ruined it. I ruined block party.

I drove my car through the street closed times and smashed it at the table with all the food. Yeah, this was our big opportunity to pack new listeners on and we fucking blew it. Yeah. Oh, was anyone expecting anything different? I wasn't. It's like an opportunity to double the number of torpedoes you have on your starship. And you don't even think about that opportunity

You just think about Harry Kim and a baby Adam You know what I was wrong about what I said before I did expect it to go this way I just expected you to be the one that ruins it. Wow I am the ruiner. Yeah, you're the ruiner now I am the ruiner. Yeah, you're the ruiner now. Do you want to get into season 2 episode 21 of Voyager? It's called Deadlock? I mean, after that, Marin open.

We got to get to the show at a self-defense. Breaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Barn! Ben, I'm shocked in this open that seems like Paris did not, in fact, deliver Wildman's baby. Yeah. And if he did, she's already pregnant again.

She is. I mean, that was crucially at him. That was a lie that he told during his, I'm being a dick to Chicoeté for spycraft reasons, days. I still believed, Ben. Iticoetay for spycraft reasons days. I still believed, Ben. It's still real to me, damnit! Such is my love for Tom Paris. Yeah.

Boy, you hate to see this, right Adam? Because this episode opens with Neelix freshening up Ensign Wildman. That's a pregnant woman. Neelix, what the fuck? Yeah, save that for a few tabs from now. That one's for later when the first tabs aren't working. This guy is really cutting corners in the canteen. He makes the pregnant lady fix his stove, and then he wants her to fix his replicator and admits that he has been replicating cabbage and shit.

This is the thing though, when you're a renter, the super's never gonna come if you give them the list of 10 things. Right. But Neelix is just telling Wildman about the leaky faucet and then waiting for the super to arrive before telling Wildman about all the other things in the apartment that are broken. Yeah, that's the way to do it.

Lure them in with a falsely simple job. It's a good thing there's a fainting couch right next to the replicator that she's fixing at the end of this scene. Because she crashes right into it. Very Victorian in design, the Voyager Messau. I mean, it looks like that thing wipes clean though, right? Oh yeah.

It's gonna be next to a replicator. Yeah, yeah, sure does. The water breaking on a surface like that is not going to be a huge problem. So she is off to Six Bay and it's big smiles all around in the mess hall. I mean these are people that need good news. They're about to tuck into some of Nielix's cooking. So the impending arrival of a baby is great. Kess is advising deep, regular breaths to Wildman. And a bit of dialogue I just didn't understand.

Take the standard kind of breath, Wildman. You know what you would normally do. Wildman's like, were you in the Lamas class or... I think that was just me. Right. Kess. I was the only one running that Holodeck program. Wildman points down to below the curtain and she's like, can you freshen this up?

Because shit down there is crazy at the moment. Yeah, it's a spiky baby. Are we allowed to say it's a horny baby? Because I want to say it's a horny baby. What is the definitional distinction between a horn and a spike? Like is it just a size issue? Like when you get magato-sized they're horns. Right.

Small with the magato, it's a spike. Yeah, that guy talks a lot of game. Like he's rocking a horn, but he is merely packing a spike. I feel like it has more to do with the number like I don't think things have five horns but they have five spikes. Yeah. Yeah. Like a horn is a one or a twosy. Anything more than two it goes to spike. Is that it? Yeah. You can have up to two horns but if it baby has three, right? No, I mean, this is why the baby's horny. You're like a fucking vax denier.

You're like googling information to try and fit your preconceived notion. I wanna call the baby horny, and I need to come up with a worldview. I'm trying to make the world match up to my comedy worldview. Bad, I'm doing the best I can to make this funny. Very nervous energy on the bridge. Tom Parris apparently not aware that labor, one of those things can take a long time.

Am I making any sense here? Especially where horns are involved, Ben. Yeah. You want to be slow. He's like, I saw a disaster, wharf-delivered Kiko's baby in like five minutes. What are we waiting for? They're kind of shaped like sharks teeth in a way where like,

you want the head to be positioned in such a way that we're not fishhooking our way out of the womb. Yeah, yeah. You want them to be easing the passage and not turning into barbs. Right. to be easing the passage and not turning into barbs. Right. Chicoeté says a line that made me laugh a lot here. He says, I don't know why I'm so nervous. This isn't even my child.

My child's gonna be half-cardassian and culturally case on it. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Cut to Cesca having like the smoothest birth ever.

Like barely even feeling it. Like a few people know the Cardassian children come out with the spoons inverted. So it's just like just an extra smooth bump. And the case on doctors are amazed. They're like usually these are jammed up for hours because of the pine cones. It's usually like the seasonal autumn section of a Michael's craft store. Yeah, it's for some reason a ton of pine cones and like foam core. Yeah, yeah.

Some varnished gourds. Why are these in here? Yeah, it's a womb of plenty. Gene, we have a dark comment about bringing life into a world as fucked as there's is right now Yeah, which really like pops the balloon on the whole thing, right? Yeah, and if that wasn't a bummer the the Deon Armada that they're bearing down on is Really going to drop the crew morale through the floor There's a butcher's meat case amount of ships out there,

around 20 ground round-class starships in the distance. And Paris is suggesting maybe hiding out an plasma storm to transit through. It stretches like half the length of the sector. This is like taking the forest road to avoid traffic, right? Right. It always seems like a good idea. Yeah. Every fantasy novel, this winds up having been a huge mistake. Yeah.

But Paris is more of like a mid-century culture guy. Like, he's all about cars and making out on cliffs. I love how scary this episode makes the Videans again. Yeah. And it's unfortunately not this point. Like I'm retroactively scared of this moment after going through what we do in this set because the idea of 20 of these ships out there and what they would do to their bodies. Yeah. It would just be like a pile of wet gloves when they were done with them. Yeah. I'm in no mood to donate any organs today. The show starts to really cut around quite a bit here.

We are doing the transits of the plasma field up on the bridge and the delivery of the baby down in 6 Bay. And it's really pacy. And they make it through the plasma field, but their warp engines go out. They draw the equivalence between the ship's transit through the plasma storm and this horny babies transit through the womb. The warp engines are out, the impulse engines are out, and a lot of toys comes up with the idea of doing proton bursts to fix this situation. Wildman's like, you're gonna shoot my baby's horns off? This is a rare complication. They're like, no, no, no, no, this is about a different thing.

The LT grabs Skullcogin and they are gonna get to work on this proton burst situation. Except for one happens before they even started. It's like effect happening before cause. What is this, a different episode of Star Trek? What's happening here are a lot of bangers and these bangers are occurring all over the ship. Gurders are dropping everywhere.

Casualties are multiplying. Yeah, and they're like, this proton burst idea, maybe a huge mistake. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't do the thing that it seems like we did, but I'm almost positive we didn't. Janeways like, did we fire proton bursts? According to our data banks we have twice.

And she immediately surrenders to the Videans. Right. Because she knows how bad this looks. Yeah, they don't bother to beam her over to the ship. They just beam some parts out. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Speaking of beaming parts out, down in 6 Bay, they have to do the sort of 24th century equivalent

of a C-section, which is transport the baby out of the womb. Transporters usually reserved for ship beaming, are recalibrated to transport a baby out of the womb. Yeah. It's just a simple dial. Amazing. There's a really fun edit they slipped in here, Ben, that I wonder if you noticed where a banger gets dropped and BLT kind of doubles over. And then we cut to the bridge and Janeway is already doubled over and she stands back up.

Oh, I didn't notice that. That's a really cool match on action. Yeah, it really is. When we come back, the ship is in really rough shape. And it's not like we've stabilized here. I like how they make it seem as though the tension is, oh boy, I hope Wildman's baby is gonna be all right, because as more and more people flow into six bay,

it seems like her level of care is going to diminish. Yeah, this is... You know, the more and more the people need to be triaged. Right. But it quickly becomes like not just about a baby and wildman, but like an existential threat to everyone. The math of this is really three-dimensional too, because it's like, of course,

like mother and newborn need care, but also like critical engineering personnel who keep the ship running. The horny baby doesn't have a job yet. Right. We really need the others. And then one of the bangers affects the EMH's ability to hold his tricorder and you're starting to worry

about are they even going to be able to treat these people at all? There's a report of some incoming casualties from the mess hall. And when I heard this, I was like, hey, maybe after the first banger gets dropped, you push your plate away from the table and get back to your station. What are these people doing in the mess hall after the first one gets dropped? Maybe they're not like coming directly from the mess hall,

but they did have a meal in there recently, and they've got like some tummy issues that are just starting to present. I wonder if it's also like a shelter-in-place thing, rule, like if a banger drops. Oh, yeah. Don't try to use a turbo lift. Don't try to run through a corridor.

Stay until the banger stop. Yeah, this episode is so willing to fuck this setup. And I wonder from a production standpoint, how scary that is, because these are standing sets that they need to reuse week after week. And there are so many scenes of shit all over consoles. And like BLT just like violently sweeping stuff out of the way,

which I'm sure scratches up those little, the like lexan on the screens, and they probably have to replace all that stuff. But you need it to look right. I can get the way I do it. The doctor is, for some reason, treating Nielix when Kess explains to him that... Moral isn't important right now.

You know what's really gonna know his dive, Moral? A dead horny baby. Yeah, baby is struggling to stay alive. And there are like, whole sections coming away. BLT and Kim have been tasked to go erect an emergency force field because the emergency force fields aren't working.

Fucking crazy. It's really trouble from all directions in a great way. The tension of the first 10 minutes of this episode is just really breathless. It really reminded me of Star Trek 2009. Yes, except we weren't crying during the title sequence, like I was during Star Trek 2009. Yeah, you're like, God, this is going to be a great movie and then you saw the rest of it. Yeah, the cold open to that movie was where the water started to roll back. Skull Kogan not actually did. He needs medical assistance, but BLT and Kim have to get that force field erected so the doctor sends cast down there toward him. Kim hears Hogan get blasted in the face and he's like, God, it's a good thing I'm a main cast character.

I'm gonna live forever! And then the floor opens up under him and he's gone. Yeah. My God. Was anyone in here? He's a floater, he's living the dream, Ben. That's what we want to do. He's living the dream of Ben and Adam.

Yeah. It looks like so much fun. It looks great. God. Get those wind machines up in our faces, get us on a cable, float us around like Bon Jovi in the living on a prayer video. Give me all that stuff. If we ever get to interview Garrett, I want to ask him about this moment in particular.

I want to talk about that and literally nothing else with him. It'll be the Chris Farley show, but for this moment. Yeah. So the doc elevates himself up to the top at the triage list, while wildman Appears to lose hope. I'm sorry It's in six bay nothing test some morale officer like a dead baby and this is gonna be Nielix's greatest challenge I think it does seem less upset by this than it was by

Hearing that Tom Paris was leaving the ship hearing that Tom Paris was leaving the ship. Hmm. Kess, over here! Kess is down there to help Skull Cogan, and she's running down the hallway and just kind of blinks out of existence. And BLT is shocked to see this, and she's like radioing up to the bridge,

to explain what happened. A lot of people in need of some freshening up on the ship. And now no one can do it at Nelix. She does a little experiment. She throws some debris into the rift that Kess fell through and detects a breathable atmosphere on the other side. It's a Class M rift. Opportunity for comedy not taken here.

You know, I think you could really cut to the other side of the rift and have that piece of conduit It's a Class M Rift. Opportunity for comedy not taken here. You know, I think you could really cut to the other side of the rift and have that piece of conduit hit a random crew person, like what the fuck? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Janeway up on the bridge is really starting to look like a bowling champion. The big urn hair is back and so many bangers are dropping, we're starting to get fire bangers. The worst kind. We can't get these fires out.

They start to realize that this saving the bridge may be a lost cause and everybody is leaving the bridge but Janeway. Her station isn't password protected and she's got a lot of tax documents on the screen. Yeah somebody were to find this ship. Yikes. She runs for the exit after failing to do whatever she was trying to do and she looks back at the burning wreckage of her bridge. And she sees the ghostly images of her crew and herself working like nothing is a miss. Does this qualify as another cut on action here? Because I really liked how we got into the POV of the apparitions that she saw on her way out.

Yeah, it was good. And then that kind of cross cuts twice. And we see, we're gonna need terms to talk about these two ships and crews. And I'm gonna propose messy Janeway and clean Janeway. We get clean Janeway seeing ghostly messy Janeway leaving the bridge. Look at her, she's a mess. That's how you want to put it really?

Well, we could use Prime and Malibu. Of all the awful things we've said this episode, I feel like that's the one that's going to get us in trouble. Why would messy get us in more trouble than all that shit you said that we had to edit out? I don't know. That's your problem. So, clean Janeway looks kind of ashen-faced and Chico does like, what's up, Captain? You look like you've seen a ghost and she's like,

I did, I really did. On a night just like this. The Voyager was driving through a terrible rainstorm. Someone shot protons at it. It sounded like a dump truck being dropped off the Empire State Building. truck being dropped off the Empire State Building. And when they pulled the dirty Janeway out of the pile of girders, her body looked like this. This should be called her large Janeway in that case. There we go. It's large Janeway and messy Janeway. Yeah. I love the clean Janeway,

uh, comms over to clean BLT to get the sensors back online and Hogan gives her a, make up your mind, says Hogan's face. That's some great comedy in a, in an episode that is almost totally without it. Yeah, I love that moment. Everyone who's been in a workplace where all of a sudden,

God, more shit, cool. It is a very grim episode, but it finds its moments. Yeah. Janeway to engineering. Belon, I want you to stop the proton bursts immediately. Okay. Understood. This is a much happier reality where Ensign Wildman's baby got born and the ship did not experience a catastrophic series of

bangers and mommy and baby are doing just fine. Unfortunately, Nelix is uninsured in this universe. And oddly, Kess is present on the biobed over there. Yeah. And Ben, I strongly believe that any time the doc is asked to wake an unconscious patient, he should wake up Lieutenant. That should be his call back every time, no matter how serious the moment. That would be great. Yeah. So messy Kess has has made it over to this other reality. And she's kind of recapping what happened. She was running down to save Skull Cogan with her med kit on deck 15 and then she woke up here.

Someone hit her with a piece of conduit. She doesn't know who it was. Somebody threw a fucking dryer vent at me. What the hell? Janeway from offscreen is like, this piece of conduit. It's... It's...

Janeway's mind has already solved for this. Kess is not from this Voyager and neither is this piece of conduit. All pieces of conduit are accounted for. Yeah. on clean Voyager. There's coffee in another Voyager out there. And also, I know we're all just wrapping on the the 6 Bay right now trying to figure out the Kess situation

But there is the problem of the spatial rift on deck 15. Yeah Then we've done like someone has just set up a couple of floor cones around I guess Yeah, that deck is still open for visitors. It says it says spatial rift in English and piezo mojado in Spanish and somebody's like, that's not even a correct translation, what the fuck? What does washing my hands have to do with the spatial rift on 15? La Vesay los spatial rift? They say, Lose, Spatial Rift. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha fix our ship. What the hell is going on? That's what we're trying to figure out. They realize that they are killing the other Voyager. Like Star Trek is so great at this. The scene were a main character, sort of, has it figured out, and then we cut directly to... The McLaughlin

group, presenting inside opinions and forecasts on major issues of the day. Where we actually explain what's happening to the rest of the crew that doesn't know. And Chico Tay is the voice in the room that does that. He's describing what happened. We're getting a nice visual of a couple of blurry voyagers on top of each other. Two chips cannot occupy the same space at the same time, ordinarily. But these two can, and then that's the moment that Janeway Sites a Kent State study,

and then pronounces the word... A spatial sision. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

I had no idea it was pronounced that way. For millennia, people have been making fun of my shippelinchence and here you are. You make me feel whole again, definitely. You pissed your shibulence pants to make me feel cooler in front of the other students. Is there a congenital burst effect that you would compare those two? Shamey's twins! Jesus, Janeway, what the hell?

What is wrong with you? You know that's not the way we talk about those things these days. This is a bunker soon. There are so many problems to solve. Their mission, as it is right now, top of mind for some reason, getting cast to the hell off of this ship.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, we've got to put her back there. Getting cast to the hell off of this ship Yeah, we've got to put her back there so the ship is running out of power because they Shishamed everything but the antimatter so the two ships are basically drawing on the same fuel tank to run their warp engines. And they do have an opportunity, because if messy Kess goes back through the rift to the other side, she can be like, hey, could you knock off using the warp engine? We could really use this antimatter or whatever.

We get a lot of scenes later where Janeway and Janeway are in the same space. We don't get a lot of scenes where Kess and Sloppy Kess are in the same space. We don't get a lot of scenes where Kess and Sloppy Kess are in the same space. I think that's because they look identical, except for the brews that the conduit made, hitting Kess in the back of the head, right?

Right, yeah, Kess did not get nearly as messy as some of the other characters. I think she could even pass as not messy. She should try and swap places, you know. That's what I'm saying. I don't think we can rule out that they did. Wow. And we just don't know it.

So there's two voyagers. There's one fuel tank. And otherwise they are occupying the same space at the same time. And they want to figure out how to put them back together. They just feel awful because these proton bursts were a really bad deal for messy Voyager. I don't know why that works so much for me. But in the meantime, messy Kess is like back down in 6 Bay, kind of trying to sleep it off, but it is very uncomfortable for her to be

in here with the living baby because I think she just feels a lot of guilt about all the dead baby jokes that she's been doing. Right. And the wake of the death of baby wildman. I know. And now here's a living baby wildman to really twist the knife about what a tragedy that actually is. Hey, Ben, what's your favorite dead star trek baby joke?

Oh, um, what's the difference between a shuttlecraft full of bowling balls and a shuttlecraft full of dead star trek babies? What's that? You can use a pitch fork to unload the shuttlecraft full of dead star trek babies. Hey, Ben, what has four legs and one arm? What?

A Targon at children's playground. What? What? Oh boy. She's expressing some real deep shit to the doctor. And she's telling him about how bad it is over there and he's like, well, I'm sure they'll be fine. They've got another doctor schmalis

and any ship with a doctor schmalis is in good shape, right? And Kess feels great after this. That's exactly what she needed to hear. That's the pick me up she needed. Yeah. So an engineering BLT is briefing Janeway about all the things she's tried to do to connect their Voyager to Sloppy Voyager.

And what they need to do is come up with a signal that they could send to Sloppy Voyager that they'll understand, but also a Campy II complex, right? So it's gotta be a tone or a sound effect or whatever. Right. Come up with the first annoying sound you can think of. That's what we're gonna flush down the pipe here.

If you can think of the most annoying sound, that would be great. And that is exactly the sound that they send. This is terrifically annoying. It gets everyone's attention. What's up? I don't know. It's some kind of comedy.

It's coming from all the folks that are coming from where. And Messy Janeway is like, the only way to solve this is to send the same sound back. Just get it done. Ah! And I mean, it works. They match their signals. Yeah. And I mean, it works. They match their signals. The clean is able to communicate with the messy.

And on a panel behind them, they see messy Janeway. And what she tells them in this moment is, we are going to elliptically edit into the next scene where you tell the crew how plausible the story I'm about to tell you is. Which is great. Yeah. I read that this episode was short, like agonizingly almost 10 minutes short. Oh, in the initial cut. And when I see a scene like this, like you know where all the fat was removed, right? A scene like this is I think where you could bulk it up to get it up to time.

But I think you only realize how short you are once you start delivering cuts. So, I mean, you can't go back for this one. I guess not. It's, I mean, it seems like it wouldn't be that hard to, I mean, it's just one actor and two setups, right? But, if you were gonna do a reshoot, but they also don't always have time to do reshoots. You're not going to get bigger in continuity with that hair though.

Right. If you go back for a reshoot. Right. She can't win the bowling championship twice. It's interesting that this is treated as a technological problem to solve, and never a morality problem to solve, at least at this point, right? Because what has happened here is we have new life,

and there it sits. It sits exactly where you sit, and where I sit. They're right on top of us. I did really wish that there was some discussion of the metaphysics of this. Like when they re-merge, will Janeway have the memories of messy Janeway and clean Janeway in her head in parallel?

I wanted to know that too. We get straight into the deflectors and not about who is the alpha and who is the beta of the pairs here. They have to depolarize a step space field or something and there's gonna be a resonance pulse, but the messy Voyager is really low on power at this point. So it's gonna be, they've got like one shot at this

and they've got to make it work. I really love how it's just Star Trek banteransher, Star Trek, Bansher, Star Trek, Bansher, but what really slaps is just the visual, like the ship passing through the other ship. Yeah. Ghostly. They give it a try and cutting to the wide shot for the attempt at merging the two ships made me really nervous. Yeah, usually a bad sign, cutting at the wide shot.

And it is a bad moment here. The merger does not take effect. The Securities and Exchange Commission has some problems with it and it doesn't go through. Everyone's been slimed for some reason. Yeah, and comms are down. They can't even communicate anymore. I mean, with comms down, the rift seems to be like the only way left to communicate with the

messy voyager. And so, Cass is like, cool. I mean, I'm ready to go. We've developed the tech to allow me to go back home. So, I'm just going to go do that. And chainways, like, not so fast, fit me for a cuff too. I'm going with. And so with a dustbuster and a tricorder, Clean Janeway goes through to the other side with Kess. Why do you think Clean Janeway took the gun? This is a question as crucial to me as the unanswered one about the morality of creating a second life, because if you suggest in the earlier scene that the different pairs of crew people are going to act toward different ends, it makes the phaser a really interesting thing to hold in this scene. As it is, it

serves no utility in the story or anywhere else. It's Chekhov's phaser and it's like it caught my eye. The second they show a wide enough shot of her that you see it and I was like, fuck, what is going to happen? Is she going to shoot her way out of messy voyage? So you're going to be like, I came here for your torpedoes and only your torpedoes. Yeah, she's got like a weirdo barrel behind her, running through the corridor back to the rift. You know, when talking it all out, Ben, it does seem like a successful red herring in the scene

and in the moment. Like, I'm unsatisfied by it because I want more of an arrow pointing to it and a reason behind it, but it's very existence Creates the kind of chaos in my mind that I think was intentional. I think I think that's a great way of looking at it and She gets her great grand entrance where she gets to walk into engineering while messy Janeway is saying like we're out of options And she's like I might have some ideas about options. Messy Janeway grabs Clean Janeway's dustbuster and holds it to her temple. And she's like, I get a way out of this for everyone. You have no idea what it's like here.

The Videans are everywhere. We don't want to go back. Bigger in Janeway and Clean Janeway wrap about what to do here in a scene that is really, really cool and not cheesy in the two people with mismatched islands talking to each other about something heavy. They, they like actually reduce the list of options down to in a very hush tone. I'm thinking that the plan should be to blow up the ship. I tried to blow up the ship a couple episodes ago, and it only seemed to like kind of trigger everyone's ASMR,

but this time I'm gonna fucking do it. But first, I'm gonna crumble up this receipt. But first I'm gonna crumble up this receipt. See these two pieces of cotton here? Listen as I scrape them together. That's nice isn't it? Oh look, I have a piece of toast here and I'm gonna drag my knife across the surface. But then, like right after that, I'm gonna blow up the ship. The math here makes a lot of sense, right?

It is messy, Janeway, offering to blow up the messy foil. It's like, listen, we've got two ships. One of them is in real bad shape. We're gonna blow up the bad one. She kind of lilies herself. I'm gonna blow up the damn ship. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. And then, clean Janeway is like,

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It's, yeah, that's where I saw it down here in LA. I got to go I got to take a tour with our buddy, Manusadia. Oh, fun. Right on right as you walk in you walk past Kirk's chair and then there are the little ships and they've been put back together. They're not broken anymore. What's it got to be like to pack up an exhibit like that? And then unpack it on the other side? Yeah, you don't want to break anything.

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Back on the undamaged Voyager, Ben, the clean Voyager, a Videa ship shows up at the wrongest time. Yeah. I was so ready for this to happen. Because they've been given too much time to just lay back in the cut, solving a Star Trek problem without some external force at play. Seriously.

And these are some of the rottenest vidians we've seen so far. These are meaty kings out there. Yeah. Yeah. One of them's a real long burger. Yeah, one of them's a long burger and the other's a lumpy burger.

And they can tell something weird is going on with the Voyager. They can tell that there's some kind of Star Trek problem going on over there, but they're like, anyway, they're sitting duck, so let's go get us some organs. They drive their Arby's class ship, like right over the top, a Voyager,

and then drop a couple of umbilicals into it. They begin boarding the ship, and this is really scary. Like they have those those tricorder phasers, they get two-voch like right away. They are so efficient with what they're doing. It felt like Star Trek first contact when the Borgs were moving through the ship and just like zip, zip, zip, quickly shooting their fangs into people and assimilating them. It was horrifying. I think that the thing that separates this from Star Trek first contact is that they

just didn't have the budget or time to have lots and lots of people in this loaf. So I think there's like three of them maybe. Yeah, but later on we learn there's hundreds of them doing this around the ship. It's just terrifying. And we watch a lot of people get it. We watch Toovac get it. We watch Paris and who others get it. And it's like they're just like walking around with those like, with those like six pack coolers from the 80s that they do live organ transplants on the back of Vespas with. Fill in them up. Let me ask you a question. Do you think that the back of Vespas with. Fillin' them up. Let me ask you a question. Do you think that the amount of main character casualties

happening in the scene cuts against the tension that we should feel about, whether or not anyone can be saved and we can return to normal at the end of the episode? Like as much as I enjoyed in the terrifying way, seeing all of this destruction happen to people I care about, it went past the tipping point into that area of, well, this isn't real, this is, this is going to be righted, they're killing too many people at once.

In the way that like kill one main character and it's like appropriately believable for television, but when you kill six of them, suddenly you know that things are going to be put back to normal at the end somehow. Yeah, I mean, I was mostly just feeling like, oh shit, like this is now fucking up the good ship. Like there was the one that we want to like walk away with and it's messy transfer. It's isn't it? Yeah.

And I think what it's in there for is like it makes you confront, are you valuing the ship or the lives of the crew more as a viewer? I wish they did that thing where a Videan goes up to your body with the meat phaser hits a button and then your body is set up on that trick magicians table like where your legs are under the table and your fake legs are sticking out and part of your body just kind of sinks from the empty space of the gut that gets pulled out. Oh yeah. Give me some of that.

It would be a need effect. Yeah. They've got a high... They've got to hide the baby. Nobody thinks to use these horns on the Videans. Yeah, the doc holiday just grabs the baby by the ankles and starts swinging. And the Videans are not equal to this attack. Yeah. He turns those Videans into Ensign Wildman's Nether Regions pretty fast. Yeah. So the Videan, I don't know why the Videans sent guys to Six Bay right away.

It seems like you would get cleaner, better organs elsewhere on the ship. Six Bay is sort of the stator brothers of the ship. What you really, if you're going for meat, you really wanna take it over to a premium grocery store near the bridge or near the mess hall. Yeah. I guess it's not quite the last place you would go. The last place you would go is Nielix's,

where you know that these people have recently come in contact with that food and most of their internal organs will not be usable. Facable has damaged the right kidney, but the other organs are healthy. And they basically realize that this is an unwinnable flight. There are hundreds of vidians on the ship. So, clean Janeway, face times messy Janeway, and as like, listen, the auto-destruct is going to be happening over here.

I'm actually going gonna do it me I've got this hair brush here and all my big hair is gonna stick it out Listen to me. They're just draw brush there. I hear that's nice Now I'm gonna I've got this nice clicky keyboard and I'm gonna put in the command codes For the self-destruct on this keyboard Nice the knock on each key as I push it down. She's gonna send Harry Kim and baby Wildman back through the rift. It does not appear as though Kim has a choice in the matter, which is a great bit of power dynamics happening here. Yeah.

He can't say anything. Well, he seems like happy to do it. Nobody else on the bridge raises their hand and goes like, um, could I go to Captain? I mean, I know that there's going to be like a limited number, but I'm pretty sure I'm dead over there too. See, that guy agrees. People are going through the rift, killing their counterparts over there, then coming back and telling Janeway that their counterparts dead.

Yeah, it turns out Paris bought it also. Federation phaser hit him and we don't know how that could have happened, but it did. Yeah, what's weird is like while we joke about the interest that many people would have in fleeing and going to live on the other ship, there are other mismatched casualties. But it's just Kim and the baby and the horny baby that get this opportunity. And a wheelbarrow full of torpedoes.

Yeah. Kim has got a bandalier of just of torpedoes. Yeah. Kim has got a bandelier of just one torpedo casing around him. Ha ha ha ha. Too Voc has got to be ashamed of himself after what happens when Kim storms six bay and takes out the Vadien's solo. Yeah, I mean, God, the scene opens with the doc over hearing the Videans doing their awful business and asking about where the baby is. They're like doing an accounting of the bodies in the room, a real gross kind of accounting. The sort of accounting that is as nauseating as our own actual accounting for And in bursts Kim, with like a really cool three-part action sequence of shooting and diving

and rolling and shooting again, it's great. Yeah, really. A great episode for Garrett Wong. He does great. He sells the shit out of his shoulder roll. I thought it was awesome. He snatches that baby like chow young fat and hard boiled. He's a good boy.

He's a good boy. I like you. And the deads on messy voyage are going to be replenished. I wanted to talk real quickly about like how the self-destruct gets set because the captain does it by herself and the chip does not ask Chico day to concur. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those rare instances of the computer putting Chico day in the ball-kicking machine.

She does not ask anybody's opinion about this course of action. I mean Chico Te doesn't pipe up. The computer chooses this moment to announce to the rest of the ship that it has taken Chico Te's DNA and has created some sort of half Chico Te, half computer baby. There will be no further audio warnings. So Kim jumps through the rift just as clean voyager usblowed taking out the VDN ship. Another really fun effect. We cut to the wide shot and it's two ships exploding and then the explosion clears and there's a an intact messy voyager. explosion clears and there's an intact messy Voyager.

Just sitting there looking fine, messy but fine. It would have been welcome for any of the crew people who have demonstrated special mental abilities to feel the death of their counterpart, you know? Oh yeah. As it is, I feel like this amount of death is just sort of breeze past very, very quickly, but like there's a reality to the idea that they all died and they all lived.

There really is. I mean, this is something that Tuvak unpacks a bit with the captain talking about the like crazy ethical quandary she was faced with. And Shane was like, I'd like to tell you what I was thinking in that exact moment. That's just for captain's to understand. Anyway, see this carpet under my shoe. away. See this carpet under my shoe. I'm just gonna draw my shoe across the carpet a little bit. Now I'm gonna take this bag of Doritos and I'm gonna take a single Dorito out and put it flat on the table and then push my finger down on it. All of my examples are stupid and like made up in the moment. You've actually watched these videos. I am just imagining things that make those kinds of, I think my examples are just as dumb.

You just have a better imagination for this than I do. I'm just closer to being in a dream state right now. Yeah. Yeah. The button on the episode is Harry Kim cracking his knuckles on both hands and saying, I've got a whole new Voyager here. I haven't fucked anyone on this Voyager. Let's get going, baby. Wow. Does this, does this odometer get reset here? I think it does. It is very weird that Kim is sharing some sincere concerns about his life on the ship going forward. And Janeway just tells him to rub some temporal dirt on it and get back to work. We so rarely get the what are you going to do? This is Star Trek frees frame role credits. Yeah, but we get it here

It it's a a very lower deck style answer like she says like this is basically what you signed up for Bob. Yeah, she's weird as hell here. Did you like this episode Adam? I think the end of this episode comes very close to affecting how you might like the rest of it. So this did not ruin the punch of the rest of the episode to me. Yeah. Still found the punch very tasty. This told me that it was going to be like one of those classic sci-fi stories of double crews and it wasn't exactly what I thought it would be based on your preview to the episode.

And it surprised me in a lot of places and ways that were satisfying. And it horrified me in ways that I was not expecting. Like I thought my tolerance for the Videans was already there. Like, I'm already looking at dark web Videan shit at this point. Like all the normal stuff does not move the needle for me. And I was, I was surprised slash delighted

that like they still have the gross outpower. It was, they are gnarly and a good episode for it. Yeah, absolutely. What about you Ben? Yeah, I agree on All points. It's a very inventive way of doing an episode like this That kind of pulls on some ideas that we've come across and start track before but Really puts the puts a new spin on them and puts a new a very like void or specific spin on them and puts a new, a very like voyager specific spin on them. And it really highlights how much more wheeling this show

is to make it feel like we have crossed a Rubicon multiple times a season like wow, that is really going to change like how this crew behaves in the future. And I believe it will, like sincerely. It makes you wonder if this Janeway has just gotten a little too used to killing, both herself and others. She seems pretty comfortable with the idea.

She seems very comfortable with just bringing a phaser over to a parallel universe. Basically, sure does. Well Adam, do you want to bring a phaser over to the priority one inbox? If I see duplicates in the priority one inbox, I know what to do. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I need a supplement. A supplement? A supplement. A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Then our first priority one message is of a personal nature. It's from nibble.

The one that received the last message. And it's to nibble. The one that sent the last message. OK. And that message goes like this. I write this on our sixth Grindrversary. Hahaha, cool. For our second wedding anniversary,

since I first saw you on Grindr, proudly announcing that your spirit animal was Jordy LaForge, I knew that we were meant to be. If I had any doubts, they vanished when we were both equally thrilled. After Adam and Ben tossed a scarves at Sketchfest. Whoa! To many more adventures! Wow! Both nibbles got scarves at Sketchfest!

I'm kinda shocked that anyone we hit with scarves has stuck around with the show. As I remember, you really gunned them out there. Like we had not tied in the middle so that they would fly further. And, yeah, not a lot of things over that night. Wow, happy anniversary nibbles. I, you know what, here's the thing. If I were writing a dating profile or a grinder profile,

which is a very different thing. Not always the case that a grinder profile is soliciting a date. Right. I probably saved the Jordy La Forge thing for later. That's not the tone I'd want to set. Right, yeah. You want to be like mid-coitist when you drop that bomb?

Right. Yeah. Well, our second priority one message is from the dead Harry Kim left floating in space like nothing even happened. And that's two, anyone who cares, parenthetically, apparently no one. I love this. Yeah, a message goes like this. Little help here. Anybody!

Pretty sure I still exist since I'm originally from the Voyager that didn't self-destruct. So no funeral then. Not even gonna faze or cremate me, just tumbling through the Inky Void forever then. Anybody? Hello? Oh well. This show does not have the gromba to cut to the exterior. Show us Frozen Harry Kim spinning in space slowly and then throw us the three credits. Yeah well Adam if folks would like a priority one message they can head to MaximumFun.org slash GemboTron. Book it now.

We've got lots and lots of availability over on the greatest discovery, and we've got availability on this show as well, but it is quickly getting claimed for 2022, so get on it if you want it on the greatest generation. Hey Adam. What's up, Ann? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda!

I mean, I thought I had my drunk Shimoda selected, but frozen floating Harry Kim. Ha ha ha ha ha. Is an idea I can't get out of my head and the idea that they just forgot about him. Here's what I want to do with my Shimoda. I want to make frozen floating Harry Kim my Shimoda so that we can never forget him. Let's cement him into the tapestry of greatest gen. Let's make him a canonical Shimoda. Okay. Where he'll live forever.

I had one selected as well, but in order to make Colin Dinsmore's end of season Shimoda power ranking, you need to have at least two usually. So I'm gonna join you. I'm gonna daily double this Shimoda for that reason. That's big. Really good job by us, Ben, doing the right thing.

Yeah, it's huge of us really. Also huge is the fact that we are past that goddamn banger on the game of buttholes, the real-of-the-caretaker. Adam, do you want to go over to gh.bizslashgame and get your dice ready while I tell you about the next episode? Sure thing. The next episode is season two episode 22, Innocence. After crash landing on a moon,

two Valkin counters three terrified children who claim they've been brought there to die. Two Valk counts up all the kids and it's like, it took your mother 13 days to get birth. That was a fun bit of trivia from this episode. Usually labor is shorter on second and third children, right? I don't know anything about how that works. Maybe Vulcans are wired a little bit differently.

Who knows? You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Well, what I do know for sure, Ben, is our runabout is slowly pulsing on square 25. Couple of squares ahead. We've got the naked now episode, which I, for sure, am not going to hit, because roll of my die. Famous less words. Roll that bone out of him.

I have rolled a six. Whoa! Tula! Did I have rolled a six. Whoa! Too long! Did I win? Hardly. Which puts that in the distance. We're currently on square 31. Wow.

It is a regular old episode. And we are on the fourth row of the game. That was fast. We got, we spent so long on the second row. I feel like we had like so much pent up momentum that we just spurred it onto the fourth row Yeah, I've been rolling dice like ropes Getting this way out into the distance and I don't know. I mean I I am hoping the the creators of this game By that I mean Philippe Sobriero Craig Anderson and Andrew Wong Hoyer Didn't get under the hood of this thing and By that I mean, Philippe Sobriero, Craig Anderson, and Andrew Wang Hoyer didn't

get under the hood of this thing and change how the dice worked. How was entertained by how long we were stuck. But yeah, now we're on the fourth row. You were entertained. I was fucking outraged. Yeah, we had very different feelings about the game at that point. Yeah, I was starting to really lose my lose my temper Wow, well, I'm really looking forward to a regular old episode next week about a bunch of Children dying and yeah start tricking kids episodes are always the best ones, right? It's this poichers rascals. Is that what we're gonna get here? I don't know Well, if you enjoyed the episode the best ones, right? Is this Voyager's Rascals? Is that where we're going to get here? I don't know. Well, if you enjoyed the episode, maybe tell a friend about it.

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