The Greatest Generation - Mental Overalls (ENT S2E23)

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

When a team of Lennie scientists finds Borgsicles under the ice, thawing them out and getting too close leads to new urges around base camp. But when the Entrepreneur gets sent to intercept by Admiral... Forrest, Archer blows up their damn ship after closing the First Contact loop. Who needs to look at their own messy-ass starships? What’s the best way to open a can? Which Borg drone was missing from this story? It’s the episode that no one thought was possible.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in Starling. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument from me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the song. Welcome to the Greatest Generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison. Do you know right man? No. No fucking way. All right, play the drop.
Starting point is 00:00:34 What's wrong with Ben this time? Do you want to talk about it? I don't know if this is what's doing it, but I made my wife and I some of that gochujang pasta that's, I think it's like a New York Times recipe maybe. Yeah. When you see people on social media post about it all the time. Hey, are you on New York Times food Reddit? No. Speaking of that, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Like, that community is crazy. And I read about that dish on New York Times food Reddit. That's how I know it. Okay. Because every once in a while there are recipes that just catch fire there and become the recipe of the week. And this is that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I think it went really, really viral. I was very late to it, I think, because I got it like fourth hand through, you know, scrolling on social media and seeing somebody making it. There was a beans recipe like a month ago that was like, marry me beans. And everyone was making this beans recipe for like three weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I did too, it was really good. I mean, I don't know if what I wound up like looking up on the internet was anything close to the original, but I just searched Gochujang pasta recipe and made the first one that came up. And part of this is me. I was like looking at the proportions in the recipe and I was like, these proportions are dumb and weird, like, but I guess they know what they're doing, it's a recipe! And part of it was that there was just, like, a vast amount of sauce relative to the amount of pasta that I cooked, you know, it was like
Starting point is 00:02:16 eight ounces of pasta, one and a half cups of heavy cream, like what? And I should have been like, okay, this is wrong. As someone who has enjoyed a pasta meal with you from time to time, I know your preferences with the ratio. Yeah. And this isn't that. Listen, I don't want my pasta dish to look like Chuck Schumer's replies on social media.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Perfect. Perfectly done. But I also. I don't have any glasses to put on and then look over the top of disapprovingly as my only defense for fucked up things happening. I made this because I was like, I think I have a little gochu jang left in the cabinet. Sure. And I went and got my gochu jang. That stuff lasts forever, right?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Apparently not. What had once been a brick red, unctuous substance had gone jet black. And I was like, well, this is, could just be oxidation and not actually. Oh no, Ben. I don't know. It tasted, and it tasted good. It tasted really good. It tasted- Was there bulging from the lid and the sides?
Starting point is 00:03:27 No, nothing like that. I don't even think it necessarily is the pasta because wifey ate it and she's fine. Oh, there it is. Yeah. So, I don't know. Not your fault. I don't know. I just, I never sleep anymore. I remember what's- You did nothing wrong. I remember what sleeping is like,
Starting point is 00:03:45 and I think that it's good for my body just based on how my body is doing now in this new phase where I don't. I remember you when Daron, or like around the time of Daron's arrival, soldiering through. I did. I'm born. I feel like you're far more affected this time around. It's more, soldiering through. I did. I'm born.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I feel like you're far more affected this time around. It's more, man, cause it's like, you get up a bunch overnight and then also, you have to like argue with a toddler who's like, I don't wanna go to school, I wanna become a garbage truck. And, you know. And kids are so fucking stupid that way. Like, you can't, you gotta go to school. Where you learn how to be a garbage truck.
Starting point is 00:04:28 They will teach you these things. Yeah, you'll learn how to learn to be a garbage truck. Yeah, so I don't know. It's maybe all of the things, you know, piling up on one another. There is something deeply felt about making a disappointing dish. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like I remember with remarkable accuracy the times that that
Starting point is 00:04:52 happens way more than the ones that are good. You know the thing with people who are addicted to gambling is that they're actually addicted to losing not addicted to winning. Oh yeah I've heard that. There's like the serotonin cycle of loss that is actually the thing that they're like caught up in. Dirty, dirty loser gamblers is what you're describing. I feel like that's me in the kitchen lately. Damn. Oh, so this is not an isolated incident.
Starting point is 00:05:19 There are Miriam fuck ups? Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh wow, that chicken is, it's like salt with a side of chicken. Hmm. I mean, that's because your systems are compromised, Ben. Yeah. Like, once you start attacking the sleep center of a Star Trek podcast co-host,
Starting point is 00:05:40 all the other systems start failing around them. It's so fucked up because you look in that, you pull the panel away and it used to be like nice blue, calm colors, no crazy wires leading to different things. Now, all green. I pull off your panels, Ben, and I'm seeing bad wiring. Bad wiring. All over the place.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Like, how are the Borgs gassing themselves up, convincing themselves? I mean, it's like fucking, it's fucking like white supremacists. Like, these guys look at themselves and think, this is the best race? Are you fucking nuts? Like, the Borgs think that they're the nearest thing to perfection that the galaxy has to offer? Look at your messy-ass fucking starships! So I know you're sleep-derived. I'm going to try to make sense of what you just said. You're describing your own situation as having joined white supremacy? Yes. Okay. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Well, there's your problem. I mean, it seems like the only people that are winning anymore. No. I mean, I just can't with these borgs. I'm as is so often the case, I am not laughing at you. Laughter is my reaction to an uncomfortable situation. And when I see my friends being uncomfortable, I'm like, I just can't help but laugh at fucking sucks. Got to roast me.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I want better for you. Hey, Hey, let's start with one thing Let's tell the family we're recording two episodes today But instead we just record one and you hit that fucking couch in the studio behind you you get some medicinal rest I'm getting on the text Hell yeah All right that text is sent going long today, sorry Alright, that text is sent. Going long today, sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Hahaha. Oh man. Adam was really in a mood and it took us a long time to get into a recording frame of mind. Hey man, any time you need to blame me, do it. And that's presuming you aren't doing it already. Don't worry, I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's happening, great. I didn't need permission. Perfect. worry. I do. I do. That's happening. Great. I didn't need permission. Perfect. Or forgiveness for that matter. Absolutely. And neither do the Borgs, Adam.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Let's get into season two, episode 23 of Star Trek Enterprise, an episode many people did not think was possible. Could you have a Borgs episode pre-TNG in the timeline. We're about to find out on Enterprise Season 2, Episode 23, Regeneration. ["REGENERATION THEME SONG"] It's a very cold open, Ben. Oh, so frigid. It's an ice planet.
Starting point is 00:08:23 It's going to be revealed as a Borgs planet. We are in Earth's Arctic Circle and an unfamiliar ship flies through here. I like that this ship was unfamiliar and then it was revealed to be a human ship. We know this premise, right? Like there are aliens under the ice caps. The canonical alien versus predator. Yeah, I think X-Files did that too, right? X-Files did this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Fight the Future, not the other one. I liked Fight the Future a lot. I saw that in an empty movie theater, which should suggest how that movie did in theaters, which I recall as not being very well. Oh really? I had the impression that it was kind of a hit. Maybe I saw it late or maybe I saw it at 11 in the morning, as I want to do sometimes. Because a lot of people don't realize there is a second theatrically released X-Files feature film.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I'm just now learning of this. Yeah. I was walking down the street in New York one day and saw X-Files movie on the marquee of a movie theater and was like, oh cool, I love that Fight the Future movie where they find the aliens under the ice cap. I'll go watch that and project it on the big screen again. And then I was like, what is this? What is this movie?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Where did this come from? That's like watching David Lynch's A Straight Story and expecting a David Lynch movie. Like, what? They're just talking to each other and nothing crazy or weird happens? Nobody's letting the espresso fall out of their mouth using gravity alone. That was a highly recommended. That is considered one of the finest espressos in the world. What is going on here?
Starting point is 00:10:04 I love that moment. So what these earth researchers find in the Arctic is a pretty massive debris field. Like we get a territorial shot showing that kind of a ton of mess has been discovered in this icy environment. And we get the classic wiping snow away from... There's so much wiping in this scene. It's great.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Did you interpret this as a cryopod that we just didn't see the machinery of, or was this a borgs that was like frozen into sea ice kind of a thing? The second one. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely saw it as like some folks who are frozen from exposure out in the Arctic get it block style and others just get it powder style. Right, this is a Borgs that you would see
Starting point is 00:10:57 doing the summit run on Everest just next to a big pile of shit that somebody also didn't collect and take down the mountain. I think you're in the perfect mindset to answer this question, Ben. Were you to freeze to death from exposure? Would you prefer powder or ice block as how your remains are found?
Starting point is 00:11:20 I like ice block. I think ice block is a lot of fun, you know? Yeah, yeah. There's something about it. It feels sturdy. Yeah. Like, something happens in the scene where, like, a researcher, like, steps on one accidentally. That's never gonna happen if you're in an Ice Block.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I think that this may be a fever dream and a fake memory, but I feel like they had the Ice Block from Demolition Man in the Planet Hollywood in San Francisco. That's fun. And it was like suspended over the dining room. So you could get a table right under Stallone's nude frozen birdie. What a dream.
Starting point is 00:11:58 At that angle, absolutely. Absolutely. So yeah, Borgsicle is our dun-dun-dun to theme. Yeah. And when we come back, these researchers are scanning these guys and they're like, they're humanoids. But that's kind of all they know at this point, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Like, let's get these birdies out of the ice so we can figure out a little more about them. We set up base camps though. They radio back to the ship and they're like, this is definitely a find, like we need to start putting tents up and exploring the shit out of this. And a researcher wanders off to scan some other thing and she trips over the feet of an unencased Borgs, a powder Borgs. Whoopsie. Ben, I think one of the things about this episode I really like is that they get that familiar tone that we got in Aliens film, that Aliens films does so well. The optimism of scientists and explorers finding something new, the excitement about that in
Starting point is 00:13:02 the face of what we know as an audience, which is like, you should not be excited about this. You should be very scared. And that tension, that tension goes on for a long time. Yeah, I think that the Prometheus films captured that pretty well too. Yeah, yeah. That, ah man, gee whiz.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So we get like the Borg autopsy scene, now they've set up tents and a couple of guys are like, man, can you believe this? They like just chopped their own arm off and replaced it with this other arm. That's wild. What do you think that arm does? I don't know. Looks like it's got a little hole cutter at the end. Maybe he's for cutting holes.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, this is the Borgs that when they got a can of beans on the ship, they bring this guy around. He could probably operate it like it was his own flesh and blood. Gotta have one of those. Ben, these scientists read as a little simple, right? And I'll tell you why. It's the overalls, isn't it? You think that these are Lenny scientists? It doesn't matter how smart you are, you look kind of dumb wearing overalls. Yeah. I'm just gonna say it.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Either that or like you're like really into trains, like really into trains. Look, the carve-out for this is an overall profession that requires that as a uniform or whatever. Like, Hey, stay out of my fucking mentions if, if you're a locomotive pilot or a, or a butcher, okay. I respect your profession. I don't think you're simple, but like when you're a scientist, I feel like these people work in a morgue. Like you see overalls in morgues.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Maybe that's what this is. I guess so, yeah. It's a morgue. Oh no. Ah. They do the autopsy. They discover that the cadavers that they've recovered are two members of different species.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And we learned that this debris has been here for a long time. If you found a body and you took them into a morgue and you had to like analyze, you know, the manner in which they were dressed when they were found and maybe one of the ladies was just dressed in underwear, would you say it was a bra cadaver? That was a magical joke, Adam.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Thanks. That's what we do best. Yeah. The prestige. Yeah. Something starts spinning on that severed arm. Uh oh. That's creepy. One of the Lenny's like holds a can by it. Like the magnet grabs the rim, which is great.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And he's like, oh shit! Yeah. Oh, it's working! Yeah. Oh, it's working. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, when you open cans, do you open with the blade going down, or do you do the alt, which is you cut around the side with the can opener? Oh, yeah, I always do it around the side, because going down, it makes the lid hard to get out. And you reach your finger down in there, and it's sharp. I can't get used to your way.
Starting point is 00:16:24 My way is harder. I continue doing it. Man. But don't you make the whole can sharp by taking out the edge? No, because it's a finer cut and you can put the lid back on. Oh. It doesn't click on, but it will stay there pretty nicely. Under what circumstance would you ever want to put a lid back on a can?
Starting point is 00:16:47 Like if you get, if you're making a Chipotle mayonnaise and you don't need all of the Chipotles in that can for that, you could put the lid back on in that context, but that's the only one I can think of. You're not buying a little can of Chipotle? I mean, they only sell it in what, like a four ounce can, but like I'm never making like a gallon of Chipotle mayo, you know? I don't know, man. Based on your, on your Marin, kind of seems like your proportions are a little off.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I knew that the proportions were bad ahead of time. I don't listen to the voice inside my head that says something is wrong here. Don't you know that? After almost 10 years of collaboration, haven't you seen that process in effect multiple times? It's like you're walking around your life wearing overalls, Ben. I am! Mental overalls. I'm a Lenny in the kitchen. I will admit it. You're a Lenny in the kitchen, but a Benny in the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah, that's why I got this one glove on full of lotion. So cut to later, and the two overall scientists are looking through a microscope and they are observing all the tiny work that the nanoprobes do in doing their business to repair damaged stuff. And they are really impressed by these little guys. They love it. I love the debate like, that's, I mean, if it's like rebuilding itself, maybe we should consider throwing these guys back on
Starting point is 00:18:25 ice. And it's like a debate. Like, let's see what happens. What if they're bad? Like, they look bad. But we're supposed to be enlightened humans. We're in a post-war human society. We don't want to judge these guys based on how creepy they look.
Starting point is 00:18:43 They had this exact conversation in Alien. Yeah. I think one of the things this episode does is get close to an homage to those situations, but I'm not feeling totally ripped off in their choices here. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I like that these feel like natural choices that a couple of Lenny's make when confronting a situation they're unfamiliar with. Yeah, they're just looking forward to finishing this set of autopsies and then going on to live off the fat of the land. Right, right. So the one who suggested moving the bodies is overruled
Starting point is 00:19:18 because the overruler says, why don't we just see what happens? And that's the scientific theory of a Lenny right there because we'll see what happens? And that's the scientific theory of Oleni right there. Because we'll see what happens is often the last thing a person says before they die a stupid death. So we're back outside scanning. We learned that this was a sphere, this ship, and they find a warp signature amidst their scan.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So there's stuff that's not totally knocked out about this debris field. They made more than just the black box out of black box. Right, yeah, which suggests an advanced intelligence. These aliens might wear two sets of overalls. They got a pair of pants under their overalls that's being held up with suspenders. We cut back to the lab where you just can't work alone in a horror movie, Ben. We're back in here.
Starting point is 00:20:22 This guy gets served coffee from a random. He's like, working alone, served coffee from a random and he's like, oh, working alone, huh? In a horror movie? I'll leave you to it. Seems like a good choice. Enjoy it. And the fact that these bodies are connected
Starting point is 00:20:35 to heart rate monitors is great. I love the choice because it gives you a two to the sequence, right? Like we started on the coffee, we're floating around, we're seeing the bodies and then, uh-oh. We just know those flat lines are gonna come to life eventually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And come to life they do. We're outside with the scientists looking into the warp signature when we hear screams and they run back to the tent and they find the tent absent that Borg's cadaver and their alien autopsist huddled on the floor, partly assimilated. Do you think there are ever any alien odd bottoms. You're suggesting that there's kind of like a dominance binary in the way aliens relate to each other. Well, sometimes when you're performing an autopsy, you like to have the body on top
Starting point is 00:21:37 of you during. This lab has been absolutely tossed and in a very short amount of time, that's what's so funny is like we cut to that exterior and we hear the scream and I love seeing a phaser beam shoot out of a building. That's big fun. We get into the building and everything has been thrown around and they find one of the overalls guys down for the count when they roll him over. We see he's been fapped by
Starting point is 00:22:05 Assimilation tubules and the nanoprobes are going right to work on him Did you say he's been fapped by assimilation to like that fap? Oh, don't you remember that being the thing? Like whenever they get you I thought it was thwip and fap is a different thing that Involves the tubules wrapping around your Johnson and moving up and down rhythmically. Is it thwap? Thwap. Thwip? Thwap?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Thwap. Thwap? Thwap. Yeah, you're right, that's something else. So they're kind of horrified by this refractory dude and they turn around and we get the, I love it when the Borgs pegs the camera with their laser eye beam.
Starting point is 00:22:48 That's great. Word makes it back to San Francisco, sunny San Francisco. Science fiction show, clearly. Sexual icon, Admiral Forrest learns about the team that was sent to the Arctic to do this research. And he is going to personally go attend the mission that looks into what happened to them. That's the seriousness with which they treat this. Sexual icon Admiral Forrest seems a little high up to be doing this one personally, but he goes. I know, but also, like, sexual icon Admiral Forrest is learning about this three days later.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Like, they're like, we lost touch with the team three days ago, and he's like, we gotta get up there right now. Like... As if he knows? As if he's the Carter Burke of the mission? As if he's the Carter Burke of the mission. Yeah. So I had this thought in my head all through this mission with him and with T'Pol. Yeah. What are they holding back? Are you high up enough to have been read in on the situation?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. Were the Vulcans aware in first contact? There is no way that the Vulcans don't know way more about the Borgs. Even absent first contact. Right? Yeah. I don't know, man. There are so few Vulcans in their entire society that wear overalls.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Almost none of them. There's just one guy down in those like culinar caves, polishing crystals. Yeah. You know. Because that is a job that requires an overall. It's valid work to be wearing an overall in. It's valid work. It's proud work.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And look, if you're considering going to college, like maybe learn a trade, like culinar polishing. Right. Like the trades are having such a hard time finding skilled practitioners these days. I know, I know. You don't need to go into all that debt. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 You know, that's why this old house started their Generation Next program. And that's why the Vulcans started their Generation Next program. So when the shuttle lands, sexual icon Admiral Forrest and a couple of randos disembark and they come out weapons hot, what they find is no one's there. There's no sign of the research team. There's no sign of the crash debris either. And what happened to these guys? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 There's nothing to shoot at. Tents are full of snow. Yeah. There's not even any borgs under that powder. No, no, no. They do that thing where they, they don't pick up their feet when they walk. They're kicking the snow around. There's nothing under there.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah. This is like every time I've lost a pair of sunglasses and one foot of water at the beach, just trying to walk around in the surf, see if my toes can't turn them up. The day after my wedding, when my wedding band fell off my finger and I stood in the ocean, kicking my feet as hard as I could, trying desperately to find a thing I knew I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah. You are one of three dudes that I know that that happened to. You don't believe it can happen to you until it happens to you. Yeah. You actually inspired me to get my band shrunken with that story. Because mine was, if I was giving the dog a bath, it would like come off in the tub. What it should inspire you to do is never wear your wedding band into the ocean. I don't. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You're smarter than that. That's for sure. Yeah. I was basically, my swim trunks were overalls the day after my wedding. With how cavalier I was wearing a ring as not being ever a ringsman in my entire life. Like yeah, jewelry doesn't fall off fingers. That's insane. Were you like wading around in the water seeing if you could find it and your new wife yelled
Starting point is 00:27:01 at you from a beach chair and said, what are you looking for? The fat of the water? Pretty tough moment, Ben. Yeah. Yeah. So we're on enterprise now. It's a McLaughlin group. Issue one.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Archer is briefing the crew about the fact that this piece of shit transport that took that team of scientists up to the Arctic left Earth at warp 3.9. It's impossible. Those transports can't exceed 1.4. I think it's safe to assume these aliens reconfigured the engines. I love the photos that he shows in this meeting, are like screen grabs of the earlier scenes, like from the Mayweather collection. So great. I was going to say, the way that they animate and new ones will pop in from the perimeter,
Starting point is 00:28:01 it reminded me of when your phone puts together a little photo montage set to music for you. Yeah. Like, remember March 8th when we were up in the Arctic? Those were the days, huh? This is one of those photo collections where you click on a Borg's face and you're like, I don't want to see this person
Starting point is 00:28:26 again. They've been ordered to find this ship because it just so happens that the trajectory at which it was departing Earth will take them not that far from where the Enterprise is now, so they got to go look for them. That's their mission today. Pretty convenient. I think you could argue, if you were sexual icon Admiral Forrest, that there is no ship closer to this transport than Enterprise, because Enterprise is the only ship out there as far as it is. Yeah, I was really wondering if they were going to try to make the case that Enterprise like had to come back to Earth for this one. Yeah, I was really wondering if they were going to try to make the case that Enterprise like had to come back to Earth for this one.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, I was wondering that too. After all of the hay that they've made about how far they are from Earth. Yeah. I'm glad that they didn't take it in that direction. Anyways, Reed and Flax get together to talk about the tactical threat that the Borgs represent. And Reed's like, I just don't know, like a can opener doesn't, I mean, it doesn't even grapple. How could we consider that as a threat?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Could it be that the can is opened in such a way that creates a sharp edge from the lid? And that sharp edged lid is the weapon that they used. Their enemies are coaxed to reach their finger in to fish the lid out so that they can get at their beans and they lacerate their fingers and bleed out. Dr. Flux feels this is far-fetched as a theory. But I mean, the question remains, this was a heavily armed research team, and they got badly beaten by these unfrozen Borgsmen. Yeah. They talk a little bit about the body horror of it all. Would you accept a synthetic organ if your heart was failing or something? Would you be powder or block
Starting point is 00:30:21 if you were frozen? That comes up here. Would you be left Bynar or right Bynar? Yeah. Yeah. Reed takes out his MAGA hat and he's like, I think I'd be right Bynar. Just then they get a distress call and it's from a Tarkalian freighter. And on the bridge we learn Enterprises an hour away from being on site. That is a long ass hour. It really is.
Starting point is 00:30:46 When you've got a distress call out there. And when they arrive, the freighter is still getting cut up by this transport. They're really taking their time with this one. Yeah, they're just getting ready to do that thing where they pull a core sample out to reveal that there are in fact toilets on Tarkalian transports. If I were giving a performance review to the Borgs generally, I would say sense of urgency
Starting point is 00:31:17 is like maybe needing improvement across the board. They really do move at their own pace, don't they? And always have. Yeah, but they're convinced that they're approaching perfection as far as all of the other alien species are concerned. Yeah. The borgs that are the best. There is something comforting about seeing this green beam, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Yeah, yeah. It's nice. I liked it. This ship is not beefed up. So Reed licks a couple of shots and knocks out their webs and the transport warps away and Archer decides that whoever survived that attack probably needs their assistance more urgently than they need to chase these Borgs. So they bring those guys into Six Bay and these guys are also in their refractory period. They got fapped.
Starting point is 00:32:09 They did. And they are positively filled with nanoprobes. Dr. Flax. Usually when you're fapped, like everything comes out, but these guys got filled up. They redirected it inward. Fux can look at the chart. These Tarkalians are getting transformed from the inside. He's not going to be able to remove these nanoprobes because they multiply too fast. T'Pol says the thing that Ripley says an alien, which is, why don't we shove these bodies somewhere safe so we don't expose the crew? But Dr. Flux doesn't believe they're in any danger
Starting point is 00:32:48 and Dr. Flux. What are you thinking? Man, your stock was so high. Oh man, this was devastating. Like you already saw the photo montage set to, I'm walking on sunshine of the research team and what happened to them. You saw the guy that got faff team and what happened to them you saw
Starting point is 00:33:05 The guy that got faffed and what he looked like after that Yeah, like we're not gonna assume that these guys are a potential threat Really? Did he put on an invisible set of overalls that we can't see in this scene? Cuz that's the only explanation for this bit of business, Doctor. To have like, Archer's judgment be way better than Flox's in the scene was unmooring, let's just say. Yeah. I hated this moment. Bad moment. Later in the clarinet rental room with Archer and T'Pol gives him the news that they got no sign of this transport on Sensors. And Archer's like, yeah, yeah, that's cool and everything. But I've been in here reading the old speeches of Zephyrum Cochrane. And you'll never believe what that crazy
Starting point is 00:33:54 guy talked about at some graduation ceremony. He started doing a recap podcast of the Star Trek first contact movie. And he got drunk and stuff. Like, T'Pol's like, yeah, that was kind of his deal back then. He was, uh... He hit the sauce pretty hard, let's just say. Yeah. Cochran was famous for his imaginative stories. So this scene for sure made me wonder
Starting point is 00:34:23 to what extent T'Pol knew the truth. For sure. And I loved how subtle this episode was with that, like letting you just kind of simmer in that. Yeah. The feeling though, at the end of this scene is, what if he was right? Yeah, what if a rambling old man that went off teleprompter
Starting point is 00:34:44 and started his free associating, you know, actually said a lot of things that are really true. Like, Ooby Dooby is his music as they play him up to the mic. He's like, You're about to go out into the world, into the businesses that will soon pay you money. The estate of Roy Orbison is like, please stop letting him play that song. I want to encourage all of you to not just chase money, but also women. And also, I got to tell you about these fucking robots that I rated to that one time. Oh those guys are crazy!
Starting point is 00:35:30 Can you imagine like just being Aunt Sheila like there to see your nephew graduate and be like what is this guy talking about? Aunt Sheila never goes into the city like city scare Aunt Sheila. I don't even know why the scientists make them. She starts hearing out, except from Cochrane. She's like, I'm never leaving my house again. Flax is trying to keep these Tarkalians from getting too much worse, but the treatments aren't working. And one of them wakes up and is very disoriented and thinks that flocks is the one that's done this to him, whatever this is.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And there's a little struggle. Like they put an armed guard in six bay, but the armed guard does not have the eye of the tiger, man. You see this everywhere. Like police procedural show, like this witness is in the hospital and we got to make sure that that they're safe. Yeah, let's put the dumbest guy in the force in a chair right outside his door and let that guy make judgment calls about like which Jason Statham looking people we let into the room.
Starting point is 00:36:42 This is not a good scene for that security guy. And these assimilated Tarkalians go hog wild in Six-Bay. People are getting thrown around. Dr. Flop gets flaxed. Oh, poor guy. They make a nice linen bed sheet out of his flax. Yeah, he starts pooping like a champ. Oh man, and these Tarkalians are up and out through a ladder.
Starting point is 00:37:15 They make quick work of this scene. Faith of the fart. NX01 Enterprise, what a piece of junk. It's like one of those self-coded HTML websites back in the day with like a you know ten sections listed and five of them when you click on them it's just a GIF of a guy shoveling in a hardhat and it says you know under construction or whatever. You don't want your website to look like that. It's 2025. You want it slick. You want it nice. You want it to show up beautifully in every context like the Enterprise D. Gorgeous.
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Starting point is 00:41:17 And you will never take the greatest gin alive. Ben would rather die. A time later, Dr. Flax wakes up. Archer is the one that wakes him, and he self-scans. I love this moment. Like, Flax holds the thing up to himself and he's like, oh no. I've been infected with the nanoprox. One of the aliens injected me some sort of tubules. And Reed confirms that those two assimilated Tarkalians are free on the ship, and Dr. Flax is very specific about this warning. Do not let them touch you. Prepare to tear them apart with whatever Tommy guns you can find.
Starting point is 00:41:56 It's time to distribute the Tommy gun. And Archer's like, cool, okay then, I'm going to go back to work. Radio if you need anything. The casualness with which an infected Dr. Flax is left behind to just do whatever. I did not understand this, Ben. Archer back to being the overalls wearer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Flax back to being Flax. Yeah. Archer tore the overalls right off of him and is wearing them for himself. Reed has started a hard target search. Of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse, or doghouse in that area. We catch up with these sort of half assimilated Tarkalians who are tearing around in the guts of the ship. They're in the access tunnels and Jeffreys tubes, pulling open panels.
Starting point is 00:42:53 The halfness of them is the reason for the speed, right? I was also struck by, they're like fast zombies in a zombie film. Right. Yeah. I mean, they got their eyes on the prize and not having his eyes on the prize is Archer, who is just having a little casual sit down with Tripp where they like look at the scans that they got of the transport when they encountered it, tearing open the Tarkalian ship. Fortunately, they do have some ideas about where it might have some vulnerabilities to torpedoes and that's really exciting to think that there is a ship out there that is vulnerable to their torpedoes.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Seems a little far fetched to me. I mean, it would appear as though we have the option of torpedoes or grapplers once it comes down to it. Yeah, they never really discussed the grappler opportunities. here is that we have the option of torpedoes or grapplers once it comes down to it. Yeah. They never really discussed the grappler opportunities. Yeah. No, they're just hours to have in our minds.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Just then to Paul tells Archer that they've picked up the transport on sensors. And so, they steer the ship to intercept and speaking of interceptions, Reed and a random security team are moving through the tunnels and the ladders that we just saw the Borgs move through. And they noticed that some of the Starfleet computer terminals are looking a little hacked by the Borgs and then when they see the Tarkalian Borgs at work, we see why.
Starting point is 00:44:21 They're elbow deep in these wires and they're making their modifications. And what I love about this scene is we see the nodules, the tubules do this. Yeah. They're fapping the computers. They're fapping them right off and you get to see the computers like change shape and reconfigure and they shoot one of them once and quickly she adapts and is able to shield herself from subsequent shots.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Can you understand why this Borgs adapts after one shot and yet all of the Borgs on the transport, like later on in the episode, Reed and Archer are able to cut off a dozen shots. I think that's because Reed like souped up like a couple of phasers. They can't adapt to that? I don't know. I mean, these are primitive Borgs. They're overalls Borgs.
Starting point is 00:45:17 These are Lenny Borgs. Yeah. Yeah. So they, they resort to physical combat to, these guys, and Reed very heroically saves one of his red shirts from getting fapped. And they drop out of warp to stop these guys, and they realize that this is like a compartment that they can vent into space. And so Reed and his team, like, go shut the door behind them and they and they open This section to hard vacuum like these two Borgs live the dream Adam. Yeah, they really do they get Steve Zond Yeah, right out into space and
Starting point is 00:45:57 What do you make of the tone of this moment? Because when we're when we're on the bridge with Archer having given this order The tone is mega sad. Archer's like, oh, that's the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Lordy, I coulda let those two Borgs run around and destroy my ship for hours, and I really wanted to. Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure they nailed it,
Starting point is 00:46:23 but it is interesting because like, this is Archer, the like guy that's always training, like walk up to aliens and shake their hands. And this is classic Archer. He doesn't know what Borgs are. Like nobody has ever met a Borgs before. So he goes against his instincts here. Yeah. Like, like murder feels really intense, even if they were doing something like actively hostile to him. So yeah, he feels really bad about it. But yeah, like from the standpoint of anyone who's watched a bunch of Star Trek before, like it is so hard to get with him
Starting point is 00:46:58 on that. It's like, no, man, you fucking you squashed the roach that was about to turn your kitchen into a nightmare. Like, good choice. How much of the ship do you allow to be destroyed before you're right with this decision, Archer? I don't get it. But there's so little about Archer I get. Yeah. So, Hoshi brings some takeaway containers down to Flax with food for both the good doctor and all his little critters. And what I love about this scene is she came with a
Starting point is 00:47:32 pistol and is prepared to sit there and hang out with him at gunpoint. If you come near me I'm supposed to shoot you. I love the tone of this a lot because she doesn't hide it and Dr. Flax doesn't avoid the topic. He's actually, I don't know if this counts as a bit, but he's like, hey, try to use the stun setting if it comes down to it, all right? In kind of a wry moment, but then the tone of things turn really serious because he's like, look, I might not be able to control the monster inside me.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And when we cut over to Hoshi feeding the animals in this scene, I mean, my film paper is that, like, Dr. Flux looks at this and he's like, will I too be feasting shortly on folks that were at one time my friends. I don't know. Man. Pretty dark. I like the film paper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Elsewhere, Reed and Trip Tucker are studying all the changes the Borgs have made to the panels and they're wondering why they'd attempt to destroy a ship that they were on themselves. Yeah. That's weird, right? Like there's this sense of self-sacrifice that the Borgs have that neither Reed nor Tripp could possibly understand at this point. Yeah. There's not even any sexual opportunities.
Starting point is 00:48:57 It's like, how do you make fapping a panel totally devoid of sex? Doesn't make any sense. Reed, no one knows more about flapping than you do. Maybe you can put me into the minds of these Borgs. They have some grudging admiration for like how advanced the Borg tech seems to be. Yeah. You know, that's interesting, but yeah, like they're, they're kind're perplexed about what these guys even want. What do you think about eating during emergency situations? I love going from this moment
Starting point is 00:49:32 to the mess hall where T'Pol's gotta eat. Who doesn't? T'Pol's sitting there with all of the ice cream from the ship's freezer. Explains it was melting. That's great. Yeah, Archer rolls in for something for himself and he does that, is this seat taken to T'Pol? She Forrest Gumps him, she's like, now you get it. I love T'Pol in this scene. And this is another moment that I think confirms
Starting point is 00:50:02 our suspicion about her knowing a little bit more about the Borgs than she's letting on. She's like, you know, your strategy of rescue versus blow them out of the stars. I have some issues with that. And that's because T'Pol is Ripley and she is smart. I say we take off and nuke the entire site for morbid. It's the only way to be sure. Fucking A. Like just based on what Flax said,
Starting point is 00:50:28 like there's no getting them back from what has happened to them. There is not an expression of this transport ship's dollar value at any point. No. That must be on their minds. They can bill me. What's on my mind is how Dr. Flax is doing.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And he blows in a call to Archer telling him to come to Six-Bay. And when he arrives, Dr. Flax is not looking so good. He's looking pretty won, I would say. He is incredibly won. And when Archer asks him if he's gotten any closer to a cure, Dr. Flax is like, yeah, I mean, I've been doing a lot of experiments and one thing sounds pretty promising. Unfortunately, it's the most painful option I have. So I'd rather save that for the end.
Starting point is 00:51:12 But also if it comes down to it, I've got a signed Jack Kevorkian hypo spray to give you. I'd like you to be the one that does it. It's just going to turn out the lights in seconds. I won't feel a thing. I really thought that this was going to happen right here. Flox was going to climb into the tube and do this, and Archer was going to have to stand there watching with the Kevorkian Hypo in his hand.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I like this moment. For Dr. Flox, I mean. Especially on the heels of the previous scene, which was totally insane. Yeah. Speaking of insane, Reed and a little buddy of his are spending some time beefing up the hand phasers and they increase the modulation or something to a point where they can really kick. And it kind of feels analogous to when they souped up the phasers on the ship itself. Like, man, like it was capable of so much more than you thought.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Shame you didn't think of that ahead of time, but they're going to start modifying weapons to get ready for their next encounter, which comes really quickly. We are onto the transport and it has started to look a little different. It's a lot nubbier, a lot more green lights on the outside of it. It's gone through some changes and it's noticed some things growing. It's feeling some urges that it has never felt before. The tendency to FAP has gotten quite a bit higher. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. This is one transport that does not want to go to the front of the class to answer this hail. Yeah. And at this point, they are really pushing their engines as hard as they can And there was a moment where Archer was like target their EPS something and then suddenly they were dropping out of warp and I couldn't tell if he had said that and they hadn't actually fired and
Starting point is 00:53:17 If Borgs dropped out of work voluntarily or if they like knocked out the warp drive on this ship Yeah, yeah hard to know it was like Or if they knocked out the warp drive on this ship. Yeah. Yeah, hard to know. It was weirdly vague, but anyways. What's not vague is the Borg's boilerplate message that Enterprise gets hailed with. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. And this is after they get that transmission that kind of fucks with their systems.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah, all of that Borgified stuff under the panels in Enterprise turns on and starts going nuts, which makes it really hard to be in a firefight because it compromises their ability to use their weapons. Archer's like, do we have grapplers? And Reed is like, the fuck would we use them for? Also, would you classify that as a weapon or more of a tool? I mean, because a tool can be a weapon in the wrong hands.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And archers like, this is what I love about Star Trek. It's all about the big questions. And big Starfleet nerd is an accurate description. They go over into the back and have them whole McLaughlin group where they debate it. Issue two. Oh yeah. Bangers are raining on them at this point. So many systems are failing.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It is looking pretty bleak on Enterprise. And Archer looks around and he's like, do we still have power to the transporter? That's not a critical system. The Borgs would not give a shit about that. On this ship, it is not a critical system. Yeah. It is an afterthought. So they're gonna go transport over there,
Starting point is 00:54:56 Reed and Archer. Meanwhile, Flox gets into the radiation chamber. I love how long we stay in this scene. Like he hops up onto the bed, slides in, and then we're in with him for a moment. Yeah. It does not look pleasant. No, it looks bad.
Starting point is 00:55:12 The transporter works. Nobody turns into cat food and the phasers work. And this raid on the transport is off to a pretty good start, you know? Hey, hey guys. Great job Hey guys. Great job so far. Great job so far. Good choices being made. They're finding some familiar stuff on this ship though. They're finding the alcoves.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Mm-hmm. They're finding borgs that look familiar to anyone who knows what a borgs looks like. They're finding familiar researchers from the Arctic base. Yeah. They don't find a drawer with babies in it, which makes sense, right? Like the researchers probably didn't bring that many babies up to the Arctic with them.
Starting point is 00:55:53 But they definitely fucked. Yeah. Like on the transport. I think they probably built the nursery, but there's no babies in it. It's just like, it's awaiting babies. They're nesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 They're hanging some like tattered leather and cables in a room that they're getting ready. This is what's so uncomfortable about socializing with the Borgs at this point. Like, you're just out to dinner, like having a good time as adults and they turn to you and like hold each other's hand and they're like, we just wanted to tell you that we're trying.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Like, why do I need to know that? Yeah, go fap each other in private. Yeah, it's fine for you to keep that to yourself. The Borgs are now boarding the Enterprise also, presumably with transporters. Boy, the tone really shifts when we find out they've been boarded, huh? Yeah. We're cutting around a ton here.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Trip is getting barked at to get Weps back online. We've got to have Weps. He's the key. Reed and Archer are getting closer to the part of the ship that they're trying to get to. At a certain point, all of the red shirts aboard Enterprise that are trying to repel the invaders find that their phasers have stopped working.
Starting point is 00:57:10 But some hand-to-hand combat that Reed tries on the ship is very effective, which I can't believe. I think this might be the first time we've ever seen this in track, just trying to unplug stuff on a Borgs. I thought in this scene, when Reed was in the grasp, I was like, our long nightmare is about to end, Ben. We might be seeing the end of Reed here.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And I was so ready for it. But then Archer does a Raiden style spear into the drone. Did you see how the shot was blocked? spear into the drone. Did you see how this shot was blocked? No. So like out of frame, archer like jump kicks off of the wall into the drone and takes the drone off of Reid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:54 But like pulling hoses off of a drone, I think is like the obvious first thing you would do in a hand to hand situation. I don't think we've ever seen it before. It's like the self-defense equivalent of the eye poke or something. Right. You just grab for stuff. Yeah. That's like going for the nuts on a Borgs. Captain, I sort of consider my hands as grapplers.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And so I now understand fully what you meant about weapon systems and grapplers perhaps being on that list. you meant about weapon systems and grapplers perhaps being on that list. Because what are hands if not the body's grapplers? It's fucking deep, man. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, they start setting up the bombs on the Borg ship, they beam out and Reid has his little remote
Starting point is 00:58:48 control trigger. Am I wearing overalls or did you know the entire time the plan was to plant a bomb over there? Were we aware of the plan before they beamed over? No, I don't think we knew what the plan was. Okay. Yeah, but they had a bunch of bombs. This bomb enables them to knock out a number of systems on the Borg ship and they get Weps back. It's up to you, Weps. It's up to you.
Starting point is 00:59:13 The invading Borgs beam away and they're like, okay, well, they're not going anywhere and their weapons are down. Now we can finally get some answers from these guys and maybe de assimilate them. And suddenly this transport starts to recover and enterprise is forced to just unload on them. Like Archer gives the order, talk to their warp core, hit them with everything we've got. And so you see phasers, you see torpedo torpedoes you see grapplers just flying at this thing And this is like the rare big kill yeah in the nx01 History yeah, this one's gonna be painted on the side of the canopy of the ship yeah The tone of this kill feels different than Borg's blown out into space though.
Starting point is 01:00:05 There seems to be some triumph to this. It's, the feeling is still mixed. Yeah. But... Archer was hoping that they could get a better resolution than this, but his hand was sort of forced. There's some passion to Archer's order here when he gives it to fire.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah. Like, he's enthusiastic about this in a way he wasn't before. Like, he's on the number line between Riker giving the order to fire at the Borgs and Chakotay giving the order to fire at the Borgs. Where would you put Archer in this moment? I mean, outside of that scale. Because they both do a wonderful job at saying the word fire. Yeah, but I'm, they say a wonderful job, but Riker is sad to do it because that's,
Starting point is 01:00:48 that's Captain Picard over there, you know. Okay. I understand the scale a little bit better now. I think it's, it's pretty middled. Yeah. I got to say, I think he does a good job. Right in the middle of those two. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. Well done. So he's going to go report what happened back to sexual icon Admiral Forrest. And we catch up with the ship a little bit later where Archer is captain's logging about how the ship is being fixed up as is their physician. And he and Topalgo talk to Phlox about his recovery. He's a little wobbly. He's like, he's doing light duty in Six Bay.
Starting point is 01:01:30 And he's like, yeah, like there was this part of having that done to me where I started to like, think I was, I was like connected telepathically to the aliens or something. What did you make of how he was dismissed for this? And a kind of like, whatever man, hand wave. Like you were pretty fucked up, Dr. Flux is kind of the react.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I mean, that was coming from T'Pol and if T'Pol like knows about the Borgs, maybe that's her kind of trying to do some operational security stuff. Seems like it. But Archer does a little math on what Phlox is able to tell them about this telepathic experience he had. And tells to Paul that the Borgs are going to know where to find Earth because a subspace signal got out. It's going to take 200 years before it gets to them, but that is how we kind of close the loop on this as a first contact adjunct story. Adam, what did you think? Did you like this one?
Starting point is 01:02:43 It made me sad that in the future we don't have the ability that we have now to like erase a voicemail after it's been recorded. Like they should have been able to hit pound and re-record the message to maybe say something like, hey, don't come here. There's nothing of value. Instead, a subspace message just goes and goes. There's no stopping it. You can't claw that one back. Once that horse is out of the barn, I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I expected to hate this episode as Borgs' bullshit. You can't shoehorn a Borg story into an Enterprise episode. But the magic trick is, it does make logical sense. It works. And it works pretty well. And the danger feels very, very threatening and scary. In the way that, like, if you were to send the Borgs back to pioneer days or whatever, they're so overmatched on the enterprise. I like the way in which the past people defend themselves from this threat in a way that is like blowing them out of an airlock. Yes,
Starting point is 01:03:58 like destroying something before it has a chance to destroy you. Yes. They kind of luck into a couple of options that save their own lives. Yeah. In a way that doesn't feel like Deus ex machina, you know? Like it seemed in keeping with their choices and their values and their abilities that didn't make it feel cheap
Starting point is 01:04:17 to live through a Borg experience the way that I would have presumed that they did. Yeah. What about you? What if one of the Borgs that they found in the Arctic was like the Neil McDonough borg? Yeah. Or like a recognizable guy from First Contact
Starting point is 01:04:34 was one of them. They're like, whoa, one of them's human and one of them's not. Yeah. That would have been cool. That would be fun. Lot of ways they could have gone. Neil McDonough, get the powder or the ice you think?
Starting point is 01:04:45 I feel like he'd be the one in the ice, you know? Yeah, I think so too. It's the cooler option. Yeah, I think this really threads the needle nicely and closes the loop on the like time paradox shit of first contact really elegantly. Yeah. Time travel.
Starting point is 01:05:04 It's a ton of fun. I think that the real knock against it is when Phlox is like, hey, you know, these guys might be cool. Let's just wait and see. Like... I want to forget that moment. Writing Phlox as Archer, not great,
Starting point is 01:05:19 but otherwise a really fun episode. And like, I think the Star Trek has a pretty mixed history going full action movie and this was a pretty good one. Yeah I think so too. Let's see if there's anything action packed in the Priority One message inbox Ben. Let's do it. Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel. it. And we'll begin with a promotional message. Here's how that goes. Four years ago, in the depths of COVID, I virtually sniffed the face of BJ via the fuck
Starting point is 01:06:09 bokeh brigade. Okay. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? Today we are still blissfully polyamorous together. In honor of my beloved's birthday, I invite all ethically non-monogamous FODs to join us at Friends of Denabula on Facebook. Fun for the whole polycule! Hahaha! Happy birthday, BJ!
Starting point is 01:06:35 We won the call. Right on! So, uh, so this message is from Nicole, a notorious FOD, Mhm. from Nicole, a notorious FOD, and just look at how Nicole has celebrated BJ and their special love. I love it. That's tremendous.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I love Friends of Denabula as being the code for this. Very, very Friend of De Soto sort of code. I like it. Love it. Yeah, the idea of like some members of a polycule being friends of DeSoto and others not feels very unstable to me inherently, but we know of polycules for which this is true. So I like that, you know, the ethical non-monogamy crowd are out there making it work. Yeah. Hell yeah. Next P1 here is from Isaac aka Jorgen and it's to Chris aka Rusk.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Goes like this. Thanks for introducing me to this podcast. I miss playing D&D with you and the guys. Love, Jorgen. Chris Brenner, drop! I'm Chris Brenner. Brenner Information Systems. You know, Interface Operations, NetAccess, Channel 90. That Chris Brenner. It seems as though Jorgen has been excommunicated from the D&D group. I'm wondering if you could shed any light on and maybe perhaps break it to Jorgen What's happened here? Yeah exactly. Rusk and the rest of the guys have been getting together playing without you
Starting point is 01:08:14 Isaac I'm sorry Yeah, and you say this as someone that this has happened to Personally, so like I feel like it's good coming from you. Yeah, it's uh, you know, it happens to all groups It's it's normal. Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, it happens to all groups. It's normal. Yeah. I wouldn't read too much into it. You just blew your saving roll on rejoining the group, Jorgen. You get what you get. The dice don't lie.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Jorgen, start a new group! That's what I'll say. Unless Froska gets into it, you know, maybe they just fell out of touch Yeah, maybe they moved apart It'll happen anyway Final message here from lieutenant Malcolm Reed tactical officer enterprise and XO one and it is to Adam Pranica Okay, here's that message. Ah,, another masterful analysis from our esteemed host. I'd be impressed if I weren't riddled with more holes than a phase pistol target.
Starting point is 01:09:13 But do carry on, your grasp of tactical matters is about as firm as pineapple pudding. A bit wobbly, easily prodded, and frankly, better off left to those who actually know what they're doing. I love this. I love a P1 written in the voice of a character. Yeah, wow. Throwing it back in our faces. Damn.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I need something to do with this shit. Come on. Fair enough. Well put, Malcolm Reed. I think we all learned a lot today. Yeah. I hope to read more messages from actual characters on the show in the in the time ahead. That was a lot of fun. That was tremendous. Well if you'd like to send a message especially if you're a
Starting point is 01:09:56 character on Star Trek Enterprise go to maximumfun.org slash Jumbotron and set yours up today. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Phlox for the, let's be cool about this situation attitude.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Like, I know you're a chill, like, live and let live doctor guy who wants to do no harm flocks, but yikes. Bad call there. Yeah. Yep. One thing I wanted to mention that I didn't get to during the show, I think I'll make my Shimoda, is that the lady researcher... Mm-hmm. ...do you know that's John Billingsley's wife?
Starting point is 01:10:42 No way! I thought that was a neat detail. And, like, there's production's John Billingsley's wife? No way. I thought that was a neat detail. And there's production photographs of Billingsley and her. Like she's all done up as the Borgs. And he's not dressed as Phlox. I think it's got to be so neat to work on Star Trek and then have people you know like that on your show, becoming a part of it what a thing
Starting point is 01:11:06 that's cool that was neat and I enjoyed her character like Rooney was so interesting it was so clear that like all of the researchers had different specialties and hers was just like what ships are made out of mm-hmm I was surprised and delighted to see her pop back up on the Borgsish transport ship later like I thought we might have seen the end of her earlier, but there she was. Pretty neat. Good times. Faith of the Fart. Well, let's talk about what we got coming up on the next episode of Star Trek Enterprise,
Starting point is 01:11:36 and also how we will be watching the next episode of Star Trek Enterprise. What do you say? I'd love to, Ben. This one's called First Flight. It's a season two, episode 24 of Enterprise. Archer tells to Paul the story of when he and a rival named A.G. Robinson were in competition for breaking the Warp 2 barrier. Whoa, Warp 2?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Ha, ha, ha, ha. Slow down, guys. Wow. This is going to be Keith Carradine that he's up against. Oh yeah? Yeah. Fun. I wonder if he's related to David.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I don't know. Has to be, right? I guess we'll puzzle that one out next week. Ben, but first we got to puzzle out how we're going to record that episode for that We'll go to the game of buttholes Will the reichard quantum leap Where our runabout is presently on square 63 Which is why this was a regular old episode, but after this 100 side to die
Starting point is 01:12:40 Could go anywhere really good. You're required to learn as you play roll Ready? Yeah I could go anywhere. Really could. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Ready? Yeah. Oh, Ben. I have hit something. Okay. A labyrinth!
Starting point is 01:12:57 I've hit Starship Mine, which is the square where we build a spaceship model while recording. A terrible square. This is gonna make a terrible show. Why would we do this? Okay. You wanna veto it, Adam? Oh yeah. Yeah, I wanna veto this. I wanna veto it because it would make a bad show.
Starting point is 01:13:20 For Friends of De Soto. It's your prerogative to veto. I might counter veto, but, uh... You know, of course, if we do veto, that means we have to watch an episode of Quantum Leap. Are you prepared to bite that bullet? I think I am. It's been a while since, uh, since we've gone back to that show. I think my body's ready. All right. Well, I'm not gonna counter veto if you want to.
Starting point is 01:13:43 All right, Ben, well, there it is. I veto if you want to. Alright, Ben, well there it is. I have vetoed Starship Mine, which means a regular old episode is ahead. Will I regret it? That remains to be seen. Check the bonus feed, where our recording of a Quantum Leap episode will live, once that's done. Yeah, alright. Interesting development on today's episode. Adam. Yeah.
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