The Greatest Generation - Mud Bath Nightmare (S5E20)

Episode Date: March 15, 2017

When some stripper glitter starts clogging critical ship systems, the Entrepreneur crew have a much worse problem to deal with—and she has kompromat on the show’s writers. In what way does this di...ffer from Burning Man? What’s wrong with Adam’s chili recipe? Is the ship’s computer rejecting the premise of the episode? How is Minister Campio ever gonna get a square job when he has all those crazy tats? It’s the episode that separates the Pee-Wee from The Boys.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate
Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Welcome to the greatest generation, a Star Trek podcast by two guys who are paralyzed with shame that they are making a Star Trek podcast, especially about this episode. I'm one of your hosts Ben Harrison.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm your other host, Adam Pranika. We do that every time. We do that opening every time, in case you've accidentally downloaded this podcast thinking that you were getting something about World War II veterans. Right. As many people who have ever clicked on the greatest Gen hashtag on Twitter will find, it is a term that is used
Starting point is 00:03:03 in multiple different contexts. All the contexts, all the great contexts, Ben. I'm going to need some of the podcast fluid for this one. Me too. You won't hear me open, mind though, because mind's a bottle. Mind's a bottle as well. It was a twist off. Hmm. I'm all out of real beer. I'm drinking cider.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I am drinking cider as well, Adam. What a happy coincidence. I, since getting back from Japan, have been on a real Japanese food and bev kick. I've been drinking Japanese beers since I've been back and enjoying all the Seattle-based Japanese foods that I can find since returning and it's my first cider in quite a while. Welcome back. Well, we have some time to kill before we do this this thing. Uh-huh Any interest in a little bit of Bible study? Oh Yeah, you know what it has it has been many many many many weeks since my last confession been I confessed to nothing
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's good to see you all in church. It's cool to the Bible. That's the way God wants it. I don't know why, dude. All these questions? Is a little blind thing too much to ask? I have randomly turned to page 65 of the Star Trek, the next generation writers slash directors guide aka the show Bible. Are the pages very, very thin, almost see through? Yeah, and they've got a nice, nice gold leaf around the edge.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Is there a ribbon to hold your place? Unfortunately, there's a piece of gach to hold your place, and it'll crawl right out of the book if you aren't careful. Yeah, slam that book. So, on a page that is under the heading Star Trek terminology continued, and the three headings on this page are star bases, subspace radio channels allow faster than light communication, and the tractor beam is an electronic grappling hook. I love that idea. Yeah, that doesn't, that's not really how it's depicted, is it?
Starting point is 00:05:41 It'd be fun if Warf had to like, had to like swing it over his head before throwing it. The thing about a grappling hook is that you are pulling yourself onto the thing you're hooking, and the tractor beam is always pulling the thing close to them. It's sort of a reverse grappling hook. Well listen, here's the description. The tractor beam is a manipulative force field. It allows us to grab and pull another object in space, equivalent of a grappling hook and a towing line. The tractor beam emitter is a small device that
Starting point is 00:06:19 is tucked into its niche at the aft end of the ship's keel, facing rearward. It can be lowered to swivel 360 degrees for special requirements. I've a device tucked into the niche at the aft end of my keel as well, Adam. With that device of a flared base, Ben? Yeah, you don't want it slipping into the polar region. Yeah, you don't want it slipping into the polar region. I mean, I love how much thought that they put into stuff like this, but it's becoming clear that not a lot of people pay attention to the Bible. Not a lot of people take the Bible's advice for action. Yeah, there's some things I've like paged through this a little bit more since our last
Starting point is 00:07:07 study session. There are a lot of like pieces of jargon suggested in the Bible that don't actually wind up being canonical to the show. And I sort of wonder like, is the show like do we have to defer to the show. And I sort of wonder, like, is the show, like, do we have to defer to the show for Canon? In the early parts of the show Bible is the enterprise like vengeful and it just kills a bunch of people for no reason. And makes every little thing a-
Starting point is 00:07:37 Quibbles over every little breach of its orders. Every little thing is a capital crime. of its orders. Every little thing is a capital crime. And in later chapters, like the Enterprise is a real lover. Like sort of down with helping people in a more humanitarian way. Yeah, I mean, I think that as we do this segment more often, Adam, much to everybody's sugar in.
Starting point is 00:08:01 We will learn more and more things like that. We're doing this bit just at that one person who wrote in. We will learn more and more things like that. We're doing this bit just at that one person who wrote in. Yeah, yeah. Ways to get Adam and Ben to stop doing things. Number one, never write us to ask us that. I know we don't normally do this, Ben, but this is an episode that is specific to a character that neither of us like very much. Are there Bible notes about the character of Lwax Anatroy that are germane to the episode coming up out of curiosity? That's a good question. I think the minorist character that is Biographyed in this is Gynon. Okay
Starting point is 00:08:55 She's got like a page in a bit in here, but after that There's no more characters discussed Hmm. Well, that would explain why her character is all over the road every episode. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- like eight times, they bring her back once a season. She's on the show almost as much as Wes. It sure seems like she is deserving of a chapter. If for no other reason, then, to give some structure that a writer could observe. I think that everything, everything that you do to encourage locks on a troll
Starting point is 00:09:42 makes this show worse. So I think that leaving her out of the show Bible is something that I would consider a blessing. It sure seems like Laxon Atroya is like the Vladimir Putin character on the show. And she has got some, she's got pictures of the writer's room, doing awful things in a hotel room. Yeah, she's got Compromot on the writer's room. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That's all we have time for here on Bible Study today. Here end it to the lesson.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Peace be with you, Ben. What do you say we talk about this horrible episode of Star Trek? Ben, it's an episode that will live in infamy. It's season five, episode 20, the cost of living, and it turns out the cost is quite high. It execs quite a price. First, you keep every stoppiece, obviously I picked up a troop,
Starting point is 00:10:50 find any troops, or a historical troop, or best troop. Before we even get into this, Ben, I will admit to, I think, about 20 minutes in, really wanting to turn off the episode. The feeling was so strong. It was as strong as it's ever been on this show. Yeah. I... This is like how I feel when I... You do so much good for almost six seasons. Like, there's some bumps in the road. There's
Starting point is 00:11:20 some bad episodes here there. But I feel like the show has matured to a point where you shouldn't have something like this happen. Right, well, and even this episode, like this episode has one of the hottest cold opens we've seen. Oh, it's fucking great. Fourtoots armed and ready-cuffin. Five. It's like, comes in in media race. They're shooting torpedoes. They are taking out asteroids. Like they hit it once. They direct hits, sir. It like takes it apart, but it's not good enough. You know, like they they on the fly come up with a scheme for using the deflector dish to shoot particles at it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 dish to shoot particles at it. The target has been destroyed Captain. Takes it out. They save a planet. It's it's like a recruiting commercial for the Navy where they just show you all the cool shit and they don't they don't show you the two weeks in some foreign airbase where you're just super bored the entire time? Nobody is swabbing any decks in this cold open. Like, you could recut this cold open with a Keith David voiceover, talking about how great the Navy is.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And like, and recruiting numbers would be through the roof for Starfleet. It's awesome. I mean, admittedly, you could just show some people swabbing the deck with a Keith David voiceover and the recruiting numbers would be through the roof Maybe accelerate your life Because Keith David moves the fucking needle God Keith David to the best. He's so good He's one of my favorites. Oh, I fucking love me some Keith David.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I feel like this mission that they portray here in the cold open could and should happen all the time. And what's great about the mission is like they blow up this asteroid and they piece out. They don't stick around to take credit. It's like someone spills a two liter of soda in an aisle in a grocery store. One of the employees cleans it up and then they get back to doing something else. It's just part of the job, blowing up asteroids, saving whole planets. It is great.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And I also like that they show the ship kind of like pulling out of orbit and heading off to its next adventure and some some like stripper glitter from from the asteroid gets on the ship and from one of a Razz's parties P1 Support lottery style stripper glitter A support-lotter-dale-style, a strippery litter. But even that is really a great idea, right? Like, what about, what if there was an episode where they had a short mission and then something that, you know, like some kind of unforeseen consequence of that mission gives them another short mission later on?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Like... It's mission telephone. You know, like most of these episodes are very, like, are very predictably structured, you know. They're kind of, like, set up fun and games resolution. And I love the idea of playing with story structure, like, what about a two-act structure on an episode, just to make it interesting every so often?
Starting point is 00:14:44 And this kind of, like, suggests that idea then and doesn't really do anything with it. I don't think either of us are against the idea of playing with structure or story if it feels like your show has gotten into a rut. But what they do here is like, what if I put four cups of cinnamon into my chili? I've never done that before. Let's see how it tastes. It feels desperate. Why has nobody ever cooked with motor oil? Yeah. Yeah. And especially because like we know there are unproduced episodes of this show, producing this one is a choice. Right. They there are scripts left on the shelf so that they could do this one.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's compromised. Forget it, Jake, it's Compromat. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And we come back from the title sequence and we are already heading in the wrong direction. We've got little Alexander and his ankle boots sitting in Councillor Troyes office with Wharf giving him the third degree over some dumb, you know, clean up your room type dispute they have. He was to place a soiled clothing and the garment reprocessor. This show is not wrong for using therapy as a storytelling device. It's just unfortunate that the people in therapy, we don't really care about their conflict. And also like, it is an interesting idea to see parenthood thrust on wharf. Unequivocally, that's an interesting idea.
Starting point is 00:16:48 But the way they deal with it is so, it's like people that aren't parents are writing it. And people that have never had this experience are writing it. Like people that have never adopted a foster kid or had their brother and his wife die and inherit their kid. You know, like it doesn't feel authentic to anything. And so. Because a child not doing their chores is not a therapy worthy.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Level, level event. Yeah. Yeah. Why are they in there? Like, you know it would be a great reason for them being there is Alexander can't stop crying like he goes to sleep and wakes up in night terrors because he watched his mom die like that's worthy. That's a conflict and it's heavy. Alexander has a existential crisis because he has as much hair as Worf and he is an eight-year-old boy. Worf starts dating someone and Alexander can't take it. Alexander realizes that his costume is made out of sherman and not fabric and he has
Starting point is 00:17:56 a real freak out. Brian Banzal can't stop spiking the camera four times a scene. Even though he's supposed to be a professional child actor. Well, he's got that sweet, sweet blank check at him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's seeing the future, his acting future, and it looks extremely bright. It's looking forward to saving that cat. It appears as though Troy is as bored as we are though in this scene. It's looking forward to saving that cat. It appears as though Troy is as bored as we are though in this scene. I think she kind of like thinks she has resolved their problem.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But um... Her resolution to the problem is, why don't you guys make a contract with each other? We're in Alexander agrees to certain terms and jobs in his day toto-day, and Wurf will also agree to certain tasks that he will promise to do day-to-day. And neither of them like this idea. This is an idea that happened a lot in my childhood.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I feel like we were a lot of kind of like bilateral agreements between me and my parents. But doesn't seem to work for the Klingons. And the scene is like just ending and Troy gets a message that her mother has beamed on board, and she looks as perturbed as all of us. She's literally in stunned silence. She's on her way to 9-11 this episode. The fucking like the like built-tilly trading card of Troy finding out her mother is beaming a board will say it all. He will say it better than we can. It looks like she has a fucking plate of shit under her nose just out of frame. It just makes me sad.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Because it happens so early in the episode, you know what you're tucking into. Mm-hmm. Well, the um... I'm in any other podcast, Soda. You down that one pretty quick. Mm-hmm. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. You down that one pretty quick. The deal is, LaXana is on board because she's got a tinder wedding coming up.
Starting point is 00:20:19 She connected with some dude on Tinder and is going to get married to him, like marriage at first sight style. They've like literally never met in person and haven't gone on a date and she has... come on board with the idea that Captain Picard will perform the ceremony and she's kind of just helping herself to the fact that the enterprise is heading in the right direction for her. And Picard is pretty pissed off about this. Like, he's walking down the hallway, livid that she's just helping herself to his shit. And when Riker explains that it's about getting her married, he's like, oh, well, if we can, if we can do that and she can be focused on not coming aboard
Starting point is 00:21:11 ever again, that would be great. So I'll get behind this. I feel like you and I have run into this a time or two in our lives when, you know, friends of ours who know we are video professionals, assume that we would love to shoot their wedding. Or... I hate that. Or like that. Or stuff like that, like the assumption that what someone does professionally is something they would be willing to do socially for free,
Starting point is 00:21:38 is it seems like a sidecar assumption to what's happening with Waxana and Picard. Like she is assuming an interest that Picard has in doing her this favor because it's what he does professionally anyway. She's a physical therapist. She doesn't want to have to deal with that outside of the office. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:21:57 I bet doctors get this worse than anybody. Oh yeah. Yeah. What's this thing on my junk? Yeah. It's Thanksgiving. I don't want you to take her junk out to show me. Can you pop this? Should I pop this? I love these people. You can't ask them questions They're so mentally gifted that we must have disturbed the delicate genius and listen to confines of an office
Starting point is 00:22:19 I have one of those right now. Oh, no Yeah, they're in the middle of my chest. I got something needs popping. Oh no. Like, do you take that to a professional or do you set up your iPhone to do the video and then reap the hit reward? Yeah. Get on our slash poppers. This is deep enough that I would not do it myself. Whoa. I'll drop a pin into almost anything, but this one is like, it's gonna need steroids injected to it. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah. Ben, you're about to go to LA. That's a frequently shirt off environment. Are you keeping the shirt down on that trip? Max fund, I'm going to Max fund HQ when I get there, and that's a shirt off as a requirement environment. I remember. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Wow. I remember I had to wax up before that one. Mm-hmm. Before my last visit. They have shirt check as you walk in. You wouldn't think so, but it's true. So I guess like Troy and her mom are hanging out in 10 forward and Warf and Alexander come into complain about this stupid contract and the
Starting point is 00:23:36 Connection is made very quickly between Alexander and LaLoxon. I like hey, you're an annoying character. I'm an annoying character. Let's be best friends. I mean, I... In some ways, I sort of appreciate the character economy here. Like, let's just kill two birds. Let's get this over with. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them. Let's stick them together. Let's stick them. Let's stick them. and let them blow out into space. What if we drowned our two least favorite characters in mud? So they go to the holodeck and the idea is that Loxana is a free spirited groovy lady in this episode and she is trying to help Alexander lighten up because he's so oppressed by his officious father and she programs up this colony in the holiday. Oh, computer! I'm assuming that you have the parallax colony on Shirley and 6. That program is available.
Starting point is 00:24:42 In the way she describes it, you're thinking it's gonna be like a, like a Costa Rican beach town with like yoga studios and painting classes and shit. And what it actually is, is like a mud bath nightmare. It's like going to Burning Man. If Burning Man was just freshman philosophy majors and Mimes. And it was all conceived by a Disney Imagineer that had a head injury. Like, you see what they're going for. They're going for Alice in Wonderland, but it's just it's
Starting point is 00:25:19 less smart and less fun. Right. And like, like, no character is justified. Like, there's lots of things in this show, in this world where they kind of, they give you a glimpse of a character or an idea, and it suggests this lineage, you know, this history, this, like, you know, I bet if they wrote a novelization about that, it would be fascinating, you know, like the history of the Romulans and the Vulcans or something like that.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And this is, this is an environment that is ripe with those things. And every single example is like, I couldn't give a less of a fuck, you know. The air really goes out of the episode and out of the show in this moment. It is so, it is such an atrocity on all levels. It also made me think how much of an easier time someone like Peewee has with whimsy, you know? Like Peewee pulls off the same shit except it works. And all that does is tell me is how hard it is. You can't just, you can't just glue paint chips onto someone's face, put that face in a bubble,
Starting point is 00:26:32 and call it fun. Like, like, Peewee's Playhouse has a fucking couch that talks to you. Cherry, I've been teasing you a lot lately, and I want you to know I'm sorry. Come over here and sit on me. Like that should be stupid, but it's not. Well, I think that what is, what separates the pee-wee from the boys is that pee-wee pee-wee is really funny. I'm so glad you put it that way. This is like, there's nothing funny here. And nothing makes any sense, you know? It's like, it's a win-
Starting point is 00:27:08 Do you think they even tried to be funny or smart? To me, it just felt cowardly. Like, they didn't state an intention one way or the other. Like, if they're trying to be smart, they're not smart. If they're trying to be funny, they're not funny. But it seems like they didn't, it's like a hedge move. They hedge their bet in either direction.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Well, yeah, like so Peewee is a man boy and it's a little unclear what exactly he is, but it is very clear who he's for, you know? And there's different versions of Peewee. There's like the Peewee that's for grownups and there's the Peewee that's for kids, but also for grownups. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And this is not for anybody. It's like the storyline completely falls apart because it doesn't really have anything to say and it doesn't have anybody to say it to. What is the lesson for today? Oh, damn, if we know, we're just here for some fun and a mud bath. Yeah, because not even the characters you're listening, really, like they're just getting talked at and Alexander for instance is like parroting the shit that paint chips guy is saying.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But he's not he's not rocking anything on a deeper level. He's just right. There's like a cowardly lion guy that comes out and yet like yells something every moment requires a purpose No, it doesn't Alexander's like walking around going like the higher the lower and it's
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's a nonsense phrase. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't have any there's nothing implied by it Even when Q comes on the show to clown around, there is always a deeper meaning behind his presence. There's always a lesson he's trying to extol, and there is just nothing here. Every purpose requires a plan. And it is so frustrating. Big fat nothing burger atom. Love it. It's a piece of clothing, it's a piece of clothing, which is longer than us at the PC.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Tell me more, you'll have to pull it out. So while all this dumb bullshit is going on, there is some ominous stuff happening aboard the entrepreneur. The stripper glitter has gotten inside the house. And it, you know, the stripper glitter is calling from inside the house. Yeah, there's like the occasional scene where like somebody's like walking down a hallway
Starting point is 00:29:39 and you see it like slip in between the cracks and two pieces of wall paneling or something. So, that's happening. The mission for an onboard wedding is granted number one. Nothing will please me more than to give away Mrs. Troy. I can't wait to hear what music you decide on. First, triple glitter cutscenes. This is like the storyline that we are desperately reaching toward the entire time, because
Starting point is 00:30:12 every time something happens with this, it's like, oh, how interesting. Something is metabolizing the ship, and instead, like, 90% of this episode's focus is on the Loaxana storyline. I'm reaching for this B story like it's a life raft. Like I need it so bad to get through the rest of the episode. It's like a real B-premise for a Star Trek episode and yet it seems like the fucking Golden Palace of the Himalayas compared to what we're getting. I feel like they might have started with this as the basis for a story and they were like,
Starting point is 00:30:50 it's not quite enough for an A. How do we bulk up this episode with Waxana Troy Underwire support? That's how we do it. Put some unnecessary and unwanted cleavage on it. So we get, well, we left the holodeck bin without describing a pretty serious mud bath scene with Alexander, Deanna Troy and a juggler. And you can see the juggler's balls in the mud bath in a fairly distressing way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 They also have, they keep referring to the entertainment and what the entertainment winds up being is a for all intents and purposes nude woman dancing for them. So just for everyone keeping track at home. That's a seven-year-old child Taking in some light nude woman dancer As afternoon entertainer Like Like, Voxana is already favorite grandma status. Like she doesn't have to introduce Alexander to porn. Also, it would have been nice if they'd hired like an actual dancer.
Starting point is 00:32:17 The, the body-paint dancer reminded me of a public access show that played in Seattle when I was growing up late at night. This show is actually quite popular. The woman was named Shannon Kringen and she basically just wore body paint and did drugs or at least looked like she did drugs and she just stared into the camera for about a half an hour.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Wow. As a growing boy, it left quite an effect on me. Party time. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah. Yeah. It's a shame public access isn't a thing anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I guess that's what YouTube is, right? Yeah. There's got to be somebody doing that on YouTube. But we just want to know where they brought cast from. I have to be privileged information. Are you a friend or a relative? We're neither. But the B story really is interesting. Something is eating the ship and pooping jelly. Yeah, so like they, I think the first time there's like a clear
Starting point is 00:33:20 a clear problem is literally like almost halfway through the episode, the locks on it goes and tries to get some tea from the replicator and what comes out is a tea cup with a bunch of hilarious sausage links dripping out of it. I was hating this episode up until this moment, but this is a single take for Major Barrett. She pulls three bratwursts out of her tea and then drinks the sausage water at the bottom like unmistakably. So I mean She she does a lot to redeem herself in this one moment where perhaps her deserved. She's got them for me. in this one moment. Where props are deserved, she's got them for me. Yeah, so data in Jordy get on the case and the work being done is like trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:34:15 what is causing the replicas or the malfunction, I guess like they're getting problems all over the ship and there's some other thing that's going on too. So they're like, they've got like a weird energy reading in some junction box and they crawl through the Jeffries tube. They put on their like Jim Shimoda costumes and they crawl through the Jeffries tube and data like gets on his back like a mechanic under a car and pulls an access panel out of the ceiling and like some maple syrup starts dripping down onto the panel. Aliens kind of ruined the idea of of a
Starting point is 00:34:56 viscous fluid in a in a mechanical environment in a computer environment, you know? Right because you want it to burn through. You really want that to burn through. And everything about this scene screamed that to me. And you just can't help it be disappointed when it's not, you know? Mm-hmm. Well, we cut away from this scene and Laxana is trying on her wedding get up.
Starting point is 00:35:26 There's been some talk about the fact that she's going to be wearing clothes for her wedding with the man she hasn't met yet because in traditional betasid weddings, everybody goes nude and, you know, Councillor Troyes completely blown away that her mother would set her cultural values by the wayside just to be married at her advanced stage. You're telling me you're not going to be naked at your own wedding? And, you know, that held some water for me and especially now that we see what the wedding get up is because it's like a, it's like a Gary Spivey Halloween costume. Gary Spivey of the psychic companions network. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah. I think that's all that there's to say about that part of the episode. I'm really excited to hear how many of the 2% get that. Yeah, and like Mr. Ham is doing some alterations on it. Alexander comes in and we get like a almost line for line reprisal of the Laxana scene from a previous episode where she complained about the terrifying nature of aging alone. For some reason, this time she's telling it to the small child who can't possibly understand that. What's hard about this scene is like, unfortunately, it's one of those contrived kids say the darn just things that end up teaching other characters a valuable life lesson moments.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Right. I mean, it's like in Shakespeare, where the crazy character often has the most wisdom, except for it's written by idiots that don't sell that premise at all. Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunately packaged with Loxana's performance here, which I think is the best that it gets in this episode and maybe for her entire run. Like, you can really see her sadness. And like, they shot this episode and maybe for her entire run, like you can really see her sadness.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And like, they shot this episode a couple months after her husband died. So I can't help but feel like there was a little bit of real, major bear it leaking in through the eyes. Well, that's, yeah, like, I mean, it makes me wonder how they decided to do any of this because the thing that she is struggling with, like her character motivation is exactly the same as it was in the last episode with the guy that has to go home and commit ritual suicide because he's getting to retirement age. She's having the exact same existential crisis, but
Starting point is 00:38:37 it's either that she's getting to go for that crisis a second time and doing a great job this time or that she has more pathos to draw on this time. It's like it's better done, but like the, like if she had done, if she had turned in this performance in the last episode that she was in, would we have this episode at all? Yeah, that's fair, because she would have gotten the work done. And the need to revisit it, I think, says all you need to say about how successfully it was done the first time around. I am the cutest of all.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You will assist us. I am the cutest of all. You are the fool. The ship starts getting bangers dropped on it and the problem of everything being turned into Ublek slowly Starts to become more pressing. It started to make me think that the computer was rejecting the premise of the episode as much as we were Like by turning itself into the goo from Ghostbusters 2 Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:39:43 Well, Jordy is excited enough about this goo that he's started to jar it and he's probably going to be selling it at like a local artisanal food stand or something. But will it make a toaster dance? Yeah, and like all of these scenes where the B storyline happens, the scene is fleeting and we get right back to the fucking A story. You're like, please come back. Come back to the B story, you're like reaching out for it. No! The train is leaving the station with the B story.
Starting point is 00:40:27 The train is leaving the station with the B story. The, the husband, the perspective husband beams on board. It's pretty clear that she met him on Loebber, right? The dating app for people with extreme earlobes. Yeah, loebate.com. You often wonder what happens to the people who wear those giant barrels in their ears once they take them out. This is the after picture.
Starting point is 00:40:54 It's like the before and after pictures of people on drugs. This guy was super harsh and wrote a bike with stunt pegs on the rear wheels when he was like 20, but now he's like 65 and it just isn't a good look anymore. Yeah, I mean, he's got ankle to neck wardrobe on, so you can't see his gnarly teenage tattoos. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 The after effects of those lobe studs. You can't see the Calvin pissing on a Chevy logo that he has on his belt. Nothing but tribal arm bands. It's tribal arm bands all the way down band. Oh, it's so unfortunate. Minister Campio, why did you do that? Your parents were so dismayed. I'm never going to get a square job, man. Yeah, so the deal with Minister Campio is that there's a, there's like a protocol guy following him around and
Starting point is 00:41:54 everything he does has to be done according to the rules because rules is rules and we needed another like B-character in this episode apparently. Yeah, you know, it sucks because you get an actress who plays Nursou Gawa. You can tell she is clawing, pawing at the camera to have more dialogue. And they give... She's like, I can fucking act. Give me something to do. Yeah, instead they give a guy like Campio's Valet,
Starting point is 00:42:28 a bunch of rules based dialogue to give to the show that is sort of meaningless and doesn't add any value at all. The woman should not be addressing you in the familiar. It doesn't move the story forward, it doesn't make anything more interesting. It doesn't expand the story forward, it doesn't make anything more interesting, it doesn't expand the universe in a way that is meaningful, it sucks. Yeah. So there's like, there's a bunch of like back and forth about how the wedding is going to go down and I guess there's like some like timing where the
Starting point is 00:43:11 discussion of how the wedding is gonna happen has to happen at a certain time and Walks out is trying to bail on this discussion because she wants to go do mud bath stuff without exam there and Everybody is real eager to get her married off. So she is like the only one in the scene that is working toward that goal. It's, I mean, the tension they're trying to build is the whole personal agency versus family obligation thing. And they are just utterly unable to make that work. Yeah, I mean, and that's also kind of a warmed-over thing from a previous
Starting point is 00:43:50 Loxana episode, right? Yeah. Like, this is like a redux of a bunch of other things that have already happened to this character, and it's like they took all, like anything that was kind of passively interesting out of those things and just crammed them into this episode so that there was an episode. It's like they're trying to make Laxana the Stevie Nick's character, like this free spirit person.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah. And it just never plays. No. Why does this show struggle so much to write women? No, man. Probably didn't employ very many women writers. I mean, that definitely did employ women writers, but not enough. It's clear that Laxana is not sweating Minister Campio, but there are some people who are sweating quite profusely, and that is everyone on the ship, because this goo is chewing up the air conditioners big time. Wow, this episode was written by two women. What? Wow. That's impossible. Unfucking real. Oh no no! Oh thank god. I looked up the
Starting point is 00:45:09 cost of living on Wikipedia and I was looking at the episode of the same name from the television series Lost. Oof, that was a close call. We almost had to delete a lot of part. Oh yeah, it was written by a guy named Peter Fields. Good job, Peter Fields. Peter Fields, president of his local chapters, MRA community. Close friend and confidant to Scott Adams. Well, nice try, I guess, Pete. This is becoming a speech. You're the captain, so very entitled.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I'm not typing a ramble on about something everyone knows. Jordy and Dator, having no luck narrowing down what's going on with the stripper glitter that is starting to really tear the ship apart. And, um, yeah, the heat is starting to kick up. The environmental situation is not great. Um, one thing I thought that was interesting about this is it's really like depicted as a big time crisis that the environment is falling apart. But we never see like Campio suffering from that. We never see LaXana suffering from that, right? It's as if the A and B storylines are occurring on different ships. It really is. There's no storyline continuity. There's no crosstalk. Yeah. Like, when they show how like fucked up everything is, it's just the bridge and everybody like passing out
Starting point is 00:46:49 on the bridge. I'm very interested in knowing what a guy like Campio that has a stick that far up his ass goes through when he has to get a little sweaty. You get a guy like Peter Fields writing a Star Trek episode. You know that he's a guy thinking that they'll take environmental controls away from the bridge before they take them away from a holodeck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I'm going to go ahead and proactively disinvite Peter Fields from Greatest Gen Con 2017. It's going to be a good beat. Pete, if you're listening, you're not invited. We're gonna find a picture of you and put PNG just below it and give it to everybody that's working the door at Greatest Gen Con 2017. Pin the storyline on Peter Fields is gonna be one of the great activities of our con Man I wonder if this guy has his own Wikipedia page. I don't think we've ever gone to the mattresses before on a writer Yet on the pod. Oh my god Adam This guy wrote the inner light. I
Starting point is 00:48:04 Can't believe that I can't believe that. I won't believe that. Coro, coro. Okay. But, didn't write this story. Somebody else wrote the story. They're like, well, we got a couple of old in this episode.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Who do we got in the rolodex for writing background on these people? He went on to write like half a dozen deep space nine episodes. Which let the record show as a show that you really want to watch next. Including in the Pale Moonlight, which is what a lot of people say is the best Star Trek episode period. Are you covering up maybe a personal Peter Fields fandom that you're unwilling to disclose right now?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Here's what I'm gonna put forth at him. It is very easy in society to try and convict somebody in the court of public opinion based on one mess up. Yeah, I guess. I think redemptions occur. And that's all I'm gonna say. All right. Here's.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It's possible that Peter Allen field stopped being such an asshole at some point. It remains to be seen. Look, his future redemption does not undo the atrocity that this episode is. So I'm really glad he went on to write great stories, but this is not one of them. Much like you look back on your early work, Ben, and don't see a lot to like there. I know I feel that way. I look back on everything I've done in the past and think poorly of it. The past including last week, I will feel
Starting point is 00:49:47 for an ounce of shame about it. I have a website that's my film portfolio and I feel like it's as much an indictment of me as a bad filmmaker as anything. Exhibit A. They spray all the strip rig with it onto some asteroids and then it's wedding time, right? Like the ship bounces back immediately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Which doesn't make any sense. If it's all chewed up from the inside out, like spraying the stripper glitter onto some asteroids does not a complete starship make. Like the lights should not have come back on. Everybody mop their brow and take a deep breath and get back to work. It's like the ship should be like barely functional. Throwing your underwear away doesn't get rid of VD.
Starting point is 00:50:34 You have to actually see a doctor. And the enterprise needs to go to a star base, like immediately. Well, they throw this wedding and all of the like times that Alexander has invade against Loxana to, you know, practice what she preaches or whatever have really made an impression on her at him. She gets her, she's all that entrance. My ex is then the new, not improved, but different.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Lanybox. They spool up the six pants and none the richer. She walks down the flight of stairs into the suburban home living room, wearing nothing at all, like super proud. And the fucking valet guy is not looking at boobs, Ben. I'm not sure if you noticed where his eye line was. Troubling eye line for the valet. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:39 It's, uh, it's all veg for the valet. Yeah. You can tell what he hasn't seen before. The other take that we get that is just really unbelievable in this scene is a really deep close-up on Alexander, giving nude elderly woman a big SEG. And she gives him a wink back. It's like, what's the implication here? Like this might be, like of all of the times that this show has made an accidental implication
Starting point is 00:52:19 of an inappropriate relationship between an older person and a younger person. Right. It gives you everything you don't want and nothing that you do. Like who I really want to see the reactions shots of our Picard and Riker, which you get barely a glimpse of.
Starting point is 00:52:38 You get a little bit of Campio who is less than stoic in his disapproval of what's happening. Evidently, he's not down with the goods. Yeah, I just, the whole thing, man. Come on. It wasn't funny and it wasn't fun. I don't think. No.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So the slide whistle on the end of this sharad is a scene back in the mud baths on the holodeck where Loaxana and Alexander are downloading their crazy adventure as the last time that either of these characters should ever appear in anything. I think like cuts to Councillor Troy who's got probably the craziest Marge Simpson wig we've seen in the history of the show with the idea being that she's got her hair up but they gave her like ten times as much hair.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, it's like she went up to the replicator and just asked for extensions after extensions after extensions. Can you put your head into a replicator and just have it add hair? That'd be fun. She went up to the replicator and it gave her Peewee's bike chain level extensions. I think she's glad that it didn't just put sausages in her curls. And I guess the like the big laugh moment on the end is that Wurf is also in the mud bath. Just one of the great psych gags, right, Ben?
Starting point is 00:54:23 No, not a good site gag, not a gag. You know what he has been? One of the great psych gags right Ben? No Not a good psych gag not a gag. You know what he is Ben. He is a muddy man This has been my last episode of the greatest generation Yeah Ben have you ever Enjoyed a mud bath have you ever enjoyed a mud bath? Have you ever had a mud bath for yourself? I've not. I have. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:54:52 My wife and I went and enjoyed mud baths in Calistoga, California, known for their natural spring water, named by a guy who was too drunk to name something at the time. Yeah. Let me tell you the story about that. No, tell me. So, Saratoga is a resorts town here in the state of New York. And the guy was asked by a reporter what the name of his like new resort town was going to be, and he was shit house drunk.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And he called it Callistoga of Serafonia. He like, he like crisscrossed the names. That's great. Yeah. Wow. That makes it better. But Callistoga is famous for its mud baths. That improves a really okay story of mine,
Starting point is 00:55:41 which is that like natural spring water, like, like they have mineral water down there, and it smells like eggs. Oh, yeah, because it's sulfury. Yeah, and when you get a mud bath, you get the delicious combination of eggs and peat, which is what they make the mud out of. So they draw these mud baths and... Salphery! Yeah. And you get in and the peat mud is so thick that you... Like, I plopped myself into it and like was on the surface. I could not break the
Starting point is 00:56:19 surface tension of the mud and you've got to like grab the sides and ram yourself into the mud, and like wiggle your way to the bottom. Not nearly as pleasant as I'm making it sound. And then you sort of scoop the hot mud over, because the mud is then not covering up your body, because you've left the impression in the mud, you've got like scoop it over yourself. I suspect that what they have here is not mud, but like, like, gruel, you know? It's the same pudding mix that Wesley uses to get dates. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Yeah, that's why Troy lowers a straw into it and takes a big suck God could you imagine the filter on that thing? Especially with what warfs packin oh
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah Ben Gonna ask you a fairly obvious question. Did you like this episode? No? Gonna ask you a fairly obvious question. Did you like this episode? No? I didn't either. Did you? No, let's let's do P1s. All right How the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Adam Jeremy, Rico, Bear has sent a message to Chadich. It says, Happy birthday, Chadich. May your birthday be full of bones, deep vies, and upsproages real dolls like Raker's secret living quarters. On this day, I ask if you'll be my number one, the riker to my JLP,
Starting point is 00:58:06 the Darmak to my Jalod. On the day I take a mate. When you're strolling in the barrio, you need your chaotic row watching your six, and that's you. Did Chad each just get proposed to on our podcast? I believe we have our very first proposal. That's sweet. Yeah, that's a nice birthday message. I wonder about Riker having a couple of real dolls from Oxbridge. I mean, I wouldn't put it past him. The thing about Riker is that you know
Starting point is 00:58:45 that he has those tiny babes, the tiny violin babes. Oh yeah he's got his hollow babes. He's not against fake babes. No but the thing is those tiny hollow babes are definitely not boning down with him. Yeah. And is an inanimate object in a position to provide active and enthusiastic consent, and I don't think it is. I mean, I'm not trying to quibble with your priority on message. Obviously, we really appreciate it, but I'm just wondering about the head cannon on that one. I believe you'll find my creations fully programmable to both your emotional specifications and also your need to grant consent. This is a way of programming
Starting point is 00:59:35 that I've built into the version 2 model. I mean, man of special conscience and to that end my special sex dolls are fairly woke to be honest. They're the most woken sex dolls in the Alpha Quadrant. The need for consent to be honest is not something I ever considered before Commander Raker filled out his form for his order of ten real deals. Ten, it's the biggest single order our company has ever received. We're so proud of his order that we framed it and hung it on the wall. It's next to the first dollar bill that we earned, the first scarf that we earned, and the Hushnok
Starting point is 01:00:26 skull that I've mounted over the mantle. Yeah, well happy birthday, Chadish. Sounds like you got a good buddy there with his Rico bear. Adam, do we have another priority one message? We sure do, Ben. This one is from Anna, Carly, Chris, Tony, Douglas, Deirdre, Kent, Val, and Gibson Well a priority one message is almost free when you split it up amongst that many people You know what I was also thinking, Ben is Is that you can get around the 350 character limit if you add words to the from line? I think these people are manipulating the rules.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Oh. Anyway, this message is to Kevin from every friend Kevin has. It goes like this. Most of us don't know what this podcast is or why you would listen to it But we love you enough to pay Adam and Ben money to say happy birthday to you anyway You're a great house mate a great brother a great friend and the best boyfriend May your chariot is be drunk and your knuck rockin' Happy birthday from the finest crew and starfleet. They must- I've always wanted to meet the best boyfriend, Adam.
Starting point is 01:01:49 They must live in a mansion. This is like 20 people. Is this the real world? I stopped watching the real world like 10 years ago. Is this the latest cast? Adam, I am a creature of... ...supassing abilities. Adam, I am a creature of surpassing abilities and I can have as many housemates as I want at any time. Oh shit! It's Kevin Uxbridge's birthday! Happy birthday, Kevin! It's my 100,000th birthday. I major my art stone even for a doubt. On this special occasion, I only have one recrished, an ice cream cake.
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Starting point is 01:04:35 And, boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nats. But I'm hearing we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It's about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah?
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out.
Starting point is 01:05:03 We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? O'Neil Ross & Kerry, available on MaximumFun and Outdoor. Hey Ben. What's that Adam? Have you drowned your Shimoda in a mud bath? Or do you in fact have a drunk Shimoda?
Starting point is 01:05:34 I have a drunk Shemota? I have a drunk Shemota. My drunk Shemota in the last episode was somebody saying, oh yeah. And once again, I have a Shemota who is evoking that emotion. This time it's Mr. Haam. When little Haksana walks in in the buff, the camera lingers on Mr. Haam for a moment. And that is the only thing you can read in his faces. Yeah, baby. Doing it right. Doing it right. He even goes, he like turns and looks at the fucking the minister, whatever his name is. Gives him an S.E.G. Do you think Mr. Homme goes along like after they're married, if they were to be married, does like Mr. Homme just join their marriage? Do you think Mr. Homme thinks about L'Oaxana in his private time?
Starting point is 01:06:27 He's seen her nude so many times now. You could see all of it when you're Mr. Homme. You could see the whole thing. What does Mr. Homme get off on? Well, he can drink a lot. So I feel like he is a man of very few limitations. Yeah, it might be a party animal.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Let's see that. Did you have a drunk Shimoad Adam? I do, Ben. I felt really bad a couple episodes ago for not noticing when Jordy had a beard. This was not something hidden from the scene. Like I just, like I looked at him and did not see the beard for whatever reason. So this, this point of emphasis might come as a surprise to you. There's a scene in the episode where Picard and Data are on a turbo lift and they're
Starting point is 01:07:19 talking over the Ghostbusters goo problem. And you get a two shot of them that's fairly close up. And Picard's on the left and Data's on the right. And the reason why that blocking is important is because you can see both of their pips. And Picard is wearing the three pips of a lieutenant in this scene. No.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And I don't know how this happens. They've done almost six seasons of this show, almost 120 episodes of Picard being an almost every episode. The costume department has one job. Why would the Pips ever even come off the costume? That's what I'm asking. Like, I don't feel like Patrick Stewart shares his uniform with anyone. It's always going to be tagged in the costume department as his. I have a feeling those pips are going to stay on regardless. I don't know why he's only wearing three pips in this scene. That's bananas.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah. So my Shimoda goes to a costume department that is clearly having the most fun. But to, in their defense, they also have the most to do this episode. Like, I could see their attention being drawn in a number of different areas. Yeah, they've got to make costumes for all those idiots in the fucking holodeck. They're painting paint chips onto a face multiple times a day. Like, I get it, guys. You're busy.
Starting point is 01:08:43 But wow. That, it also seems like on set, you, there's a moment before the camera rolls where Brent Spiner's in the scene looking at the actor on screen with him. Like the guy behind the camera looking into the frame sees the pips, like there are a number of people who could have called that out but no one did. So interesting that that sort of continuity error snuck through
Starting point is 01:09:12 on a show this far down the line. Not surprising that this episode would be the one that it happened on though. Yeah, yeah, mistakes for me. And no one noticed this one because of the myriad others. Ben, please tell me that we have a better episode coming up. Oh, we sure do add them. The next episode is season five, episode 21, the perfect mate. A beautiful woman chosen by her people to serve as a peace offering to end a centuries-long war. Falls in love with Picard. Do you remember this episode, Adam? Yeah, I do. I always think this episode is an early season episode in my mind. Like
Starting point is 01:10:02 in my collection. It's definitely an early season premise. Like, and a, not a great premise for a Star Trek episode, right? Like, oh, this woman is an object and she will end a war. Is basically the idea. Yeah, I mean, this definitely came out of the first season file effects folder, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:29 What I do recall is a very fetching Fomke-Kajanson and a legitimately heartbreaking end for Captain Picard. So I'm excited to revisit this episode to experience those things again. Yeah, I mean, I think that this is an episode that is like a bad premise that is nonetheless very well executed. It's like the panic room of episodes. You can have your actors dig you out of a story hole and this is an episode where that happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Well, we don't have any vetoes, but if we did, would you have used one on this? Not at all. I'm excited to see this one, especially to get the taste out of my mouth. The muddy taste out of my mouth from this episode. Yeah, this is going to be a nice palette cleanser, a nice granita after what we
Starting point is 01:11:28 just suffered through. That sounds nice. Adam, you know what else sounds nice? What's that man? People going on iTunes, leaving nice reviews for our show, putting the word out there that this show is not the dumb thing that it sounds like it would be if you described it to somebody. It's a you can do your friends and your roommate to favor by telling them about this show. I mean this might come as a surprise ban. Not everyone who is in the Star Trek has heard of us. Yeah. And the people who have found us recently are giddy about it. Like we hear all the time about people who just found our show, and that is like an ongoing joy for me,
Starting point is 01:12:09 is knowing that like over a hundred episodes in, people are still finding it and enjoying it for the first time. I love it. Yeah. So, sharing our embarrassment and put somebody onto the show, we should thank Dark Materia for our theme music and Adam Ragusia, who is always coming up with cool new music for us. It's one of the many cool friendships we've formed based on having this program.
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